We live in a time where any bloody camera that's released nowadays is awesome. Each has their own strengths and fills the needs of very different persons. For me, the sony a7siii is perfect :)
The A7SIII is a great camera. I bought 1 to test, and I feel i might keep it. I believe though that cameras should be judged by how perfect they are for "Projects" not for "Filmmakers". Unless all you shoot is the same type fo stuff, then yeah you can say "It's perfect for me" I have like 7-8 cameras... I never had one that I can say it works for all my projects.
Thanks for this, I was not really interested in the A7SIII but the way you made this video made me stay. Incredible way of explaining! (happy owner of the S1H)
I really like how you explain everything with such clarity and detail. It makes the process of deciding what cameras to consider purchasing a much easier process.
Wow I just discovered your channel while I was searching for information on the A7s iii. You’re a wonderful teacher. The way you explain things is both informative and interesting. I’ve seen a lot of TH-camrs talk about gear, but you really impressed me with your straight talk and real world experience as a DP. Keep up the amazing work. Subscribed.
It’s my utmost pleasure having you onboard John! Glad you like the content, awesome people like you are the reason why I’m here on TH-cam! Thanks again for your support
I freaking love your content. Always thoroughly researched and clearly explained. As a Creative Director in NYC I really appreciate you sharing your real world professional experience. It is a breath of fresh air when you consider most TH-camrs are just enthusiasts.
You have earned my respect. Very informative. You deserve the 5mill Peter McKinnon has. I can't stand the: "so I shot this on a wide aperture, it was like f1.4, I used a 25mm most expensive lens I can get affiliates from, and I just pretend to know what I'm doing but I don't" type of videos lately, they annoy the living xxx out of me. I have a Panasonic GH5 myself and I'm looking to buy either the Sony A7Siii, or the Sony A7C. Since I'm not a professional Filmmaker myself, I think the siii is overkill. The GH5 kind of is too, but it was very affordable for what it offers. I absolutely hate the AF though and after many ruined footage and nights of filming, I finally got fed up with it. So that's why I'm in the market for a new camera. Hopefully you'll have a video on the Sony A7C too!
what 8k world??? no even cinema project in 4k, they 2k or 3k most of them, and if you need more Mpxs go for a7R line with 42Mpxs; even ARRI that is the major movie camera is only 4k
Hey Gerardo, check the description.. I'm being sarcastic. Maybe it's not clear int he video FYI: Arri 65 is a 6.K Camera. RED helium, launched 4 years ago is 8K So the point in the end is how the S3 is going in the opposite direction to where others are going with 6k...8k.. and even 12K
@@THEDPJOURNEY Sorry didn't get the sarcasm. And yes Arri 65 is 6K but how many 65s are in the market??, RED is not the standart, is a puch limit company but not the standart, I have a Terra 6K and 7 diferent 4K cameras, most videos end up in 1080 and some of them in 4K. And I love the real 1 to 1 read out from a 12mpx sensor. Any way your video is fun and easy to follow. But a little confusing in terms of what you really need, the A7SIII is a video centric camera and that is why Sony have the A7R line for resolution
Yup agreed about all you say... I’m not trying to tell you it’s a good camera or it’s a bad camera... and I don’t usually ride the hype wave either which could be very misleading. I’m just pointing things out for you to connect your own dots that make sense to you. Thanks again for watching. Glad to have you here
The DP Journey this comment sounds so bad coming from you, No sony isn't going the opposite direction, everyone who buys this camera know that they will primarily be shooting videos, so the resolution doesn't matter that much the actual footage matters more, comparing it to red 8k and arri 65 6k is also really weird cause arri also make lower resolution cameras so they're going the opposite direction too? No, each camera have their own pros/cons yes sony advertise it as good still camera, arri would do the same if their cameras can shoot photos, it's just marketing, no average users would buy a $3500 camera without knowing that it is not the best photo camera out there
Congrats man, that's a hell of a camera. Im too much into the Sony ecosystem or believe me, the S1H would already been shooting for me. If Sony didnt release the A7SIII by the end if summer, I was going to get the S1H. Any way, happy shooting :-)
I own the S1h and besides the great IQ, build quality and all the super filmmaker tools it is giving me a lot of doubts, especially the AF. Often I am a one man show and on more than one occasion I wasn't sure if the image was going to be sharp. For me personally this A7sIII would have been a better choice because of the maxed out 4k features (I don't need more), the weight and of course the great autofocus. Also the L-mount might not be it for me. I'm waiting for the new firmware update Panasonice has announced to make a final decision. Any other S1h owners willing to share their thoughts?
Love your videos. Packed full of great info delivered in an efficient and engaging format. You're the first and only channel I've ever subscribed to notifications. Regarding the A7Siii, why not just go with a dedicated cinecam if seeking a video camera (which is basically that the A7Siii is trying to be). There are lightweight options available on the market at the same price point, and any size advantage the A7Siii has goes right out the window as soon as start caging up and adding external monitor, etc. Edit: Should add, I can however see how the A7Siii makes sense if already invested in Sony system, so can share glass across bodies.
Thanks for the support and the notification :) Cinecams are pretty bulky, much bulkier than a caged Mirrorless... in all cases there's no such thing as perfect camera. Thanks again for the support
@@THEDPJOURNEY Generally true. I opted for a Z-cam. Had the S1H recorded ProRes 422 internal (like Z-cam) then I would have gone with it since can double as a still good stills camera. Again, IMHO, better off with a small form factor cinecam like Z-cam or BMPCC than A7Siii, unless wanting to re-purpose E-mount glass. But I completely agree with your assessment -- no perfect camera.
Excellent technical breakdown. The technical explanation and visualization of the conventional sensor vs. the back-illuminated sensor at 13:33 is brilliant. Thanks for this one. 🙏
I'm so much looking forward for your take on the A7sIII... specially compared to the S1H... it feels like the other relevant technical reviwers as Gerald Undone are kind of bias towards Sony, failing to point out the camera weak areas and compromises...
Nicely done man. I didn't really think about the pixel shift tech for the photos on the A7S3. I feel Canon can make an EOS R4 with 12MP focused on video
Assuming the a7 IV launches in the spring and has the new color science and 10-bit 4:2:2, I could see using it alongside the a7s III if I need the oversampled 6K to 4K. Not a perfect solution, but hey...
“I want legendary low light performance for video” “I need all of the megapixels” This is a video centric camera. People aren’t buying it for photography. Being in a mirrorless body is just a sidebar.
Check SONY’s own launch and promotion videos, they talk about the camera being great photo camera. So yeah, being a photo camera as a sidebar is more like your opinion, but surely not sony’s
Man I'd love to see a review about the Canon C70 made by you ! Like, do you think the long gop codec reduce the quality way to much ? Personally I think that we've reached a quality that is so high that you can't notice those things when you watch the video on real-time. You could only notice it if you take 2 footages side by side (all-i and long gop) and look at them frame by frame. Same question about having no raw. I think we can really do beautiful colorgradings on a 422 10 bit file. What do you think ?
I've always considered your videos as THE reference material for the topics you cover . What you say about Panasonic is true. If they had a very close 3rd place AF compared to Canon's and Sony's latest offerings they would be considered some of the best cameras in the world.
Because of your detailed visuals, your camera review videos are the easiest to comprehend. I hope you will have a follow up video once you get your hands on the Sony A7S III where you show sample footage comparisons including the special capabilities of each camera, e.g., 4k 120 or anamorphic
I absolutely love the way you go into technical details while also explaining it in a way camera noobs can understand it, and how you support your narration with beautiful and clear motion graphics! Really gold TH-cam standard!
Well done sir. Thank you for recognizing that the A7Siii's real competition is the S1H! I don't know why all these other TH-cam reviewers insist on comparing the R5's video capabilities (a photo first camera) with the A7Siii's video capabilities (a video first camera). But yet don't do an R5 vs A7Siii photo comparison. That because they wouldn't compare. It'd be like comparing a Ferrari with a G-Wagon, they don't compare.
Yeah true. I guess it’s because they came out at the same time... but that’s not a reason to compare them still. I was also surprised at how no one mentioned the S1H
Thanks for your insight. Always appreciate the depth of your research. A big issue (for me) in the A7S III lowlight footage shot by Phillip Bloom is heavy NR artifacts. Massive loss of detail and smearing. The S1H used to suffer from this too until a firmware update added a -1 setting that eliminated ghosting/smearing in V-Log. Hopefully Sony will do the same.
I'm not even looking at this camera, but I watched the video anyway as I always learn something! Your technical knowledge combined with super-clear explanations make it easy to digest, and I really appreciate the very practical orientation around "who is this camera for" and "what does it do well" (versus the competition). One request, if it fits with your content plan. Could you take a look at entry level cinema cameras, and give us an overview of when/who should consider the step up from high end mirrorless to purpose-made cinema cameras? This is a decision I anticipate having to make in the future, and one which I've already started to think about. So I'm thinking of cameras like the Ursa Mini and Canon's C200 etc. It would be super interesting and useful to have you walk through how you decide which camera to use for a shoot, from the perspective of "right tool for the job." Thanks for your effort on this channel, it's become my favourite gear-review channel... and that's saying something, given how many there are!
Thank you so much foe you compliment! I was in fact planning exactly that... wanted to share my experience in jumping from dslr/mirrorless to cinema. I have a lot of things I would surely love to share. Just wanna get some other episodes out the way and I’ll work on that one. Thanks again for being awesome! Really happy you find my videos useful
The DP Journey - Brilliant news, thank you! It's not an imminent decision for me, so very happy to wait and enjoy in the meantime the other episodes you have planned. I'm sure it's a dilemma that more and more people are facing these days, as so many people have "grown into" (and perhaps "out of") their mirrorless cameras' video capabilities (many coming from photography backgrounds as you did). What prompted me to think about this, actually, was Canon's launch of the R5 and all its overheating problems... it made me wonder, "when IS a true cinema camera the right camera to buy?" That said, I can't believe how bad a mis-step Canon have made with the R5. As you say, it's damaged their brand image amongst the mirrorless brigade who were already moving away from Canon... such a shame.
The DP Journey Yes I saw the press releases today. I guess if you're already adding XLR adapters, recorder, ND filter etc then there is a logic to going for a cine body rather than mirrorless. But value for money? Look forward to your take on how to weigh up all the options and simplify it all down to what really matters. My small brain and lack of experience can't cope LOL!!
The DP Journey - I just read this article on ProvideoCoalition that I thought you'd find interesting if you have't seen it yet: it's on the differences between the C300 and C500, focusing on the practicalities of the S35 vs full frame sensors of these cameras. I thought it was brilliant: very similar in style to your videos, in that the insights are super practical and useful rather than merely technical (in an academic sort of way).
I bought the S1H a couple months ago. I mainly use it to make music videos. It does great in 4K 25 FPS in Full Frame, but when I need to take slow motion B-Roll shots, it sucks that I need to go 1080p to do 60 FPS in Full Frame. The 4K 60 FPS Full Frame option is very nice from the A7s III. If the A7s III had a higher megapixel, I'd switch cameras instantly. But the low megapixel count is something that makes me want to keep my S1H, because I sometimes to photography work aswell. Come to think of it, I don't do professional photography that much. Very rarely. I might change it up... Hmm.
This is interesting, when the r4 first came people were complaining where is the video specs, and everybody was like it’s a photo camera it’s not made for that, now the opposite is happening to the s3.
It’s only proves that technology is not ready to have a hybrid that’s equally good in both photo and video. My point about photography was not complaining about it, but countering arguments that it’s a pro photo camera. Hope that clarifies my opinion... not sure who “my people” are you were referring to though
I read an article from last year where the author stripped down an a7s III sensor and found it is actually a 48MP sensor configured in a 2x2 binning mode. Suggestion was that due to Sony sensor design that this could be contributing to more sensor read noise. Looking at photons to photos it seems the a7s II has lower read noise than the a7s III, despite having an FSI sensor where the a7s III is BSI. With the GH6 out now which is capable of very similar frame rates, video bit depth (plus Pro Res internal) and dynamic range (in DR boost mode), I wonder if it is the better option? While AF is important, I'm thinking the IQ boost of 5.7k and significantly oversampled 4k has the GH6 (with good glass) as the better value prospect for indie film makers?
I wonder how he would feel about the Sony A7IV down sampling to 4k VS A7S3 4k. And if he would choose A7IV as his all around camera for Video and stills VS A7S3 for video and his A73 for stills.
Love your videos, would you pick the s1h over the a7siii overall? I'm looking for a good low-profile hybrid for travel filmmaking. Or are there other ones you suggest? I currently have a bmpcc4k and love BRAW, but rigged out, it is a pain to travel with. I heard some people love a7siii, some people hate the codecs, Thanks!!
If you’re looking for a travel camera, then probably the A7S3 is better in terms of size and portability. On the other hand I personally prefer the S1H look and functionality more than the A7S3.
The low MP in the SIII is for less noise. So Sony S line = low MP // "Normal" line = medium MP // and R line = high MP. It's easy. Choose the line for your work. Thanks to Gerald Undone.
That is by far not all that makes it the camera for videomakers that it is. Better loe light, dynamic range, rolling shutter, high frame rates, full HDMI, flip out screen, 422 10bit All-i, new microphone choices...
the arri alexa is a hollywood standard camera and is 2.8k. the a7siii has 16 bit raw output, best lowlight, best dynamic range and best autofocus of the current mirror-less cameras. the nikon d4 was only 16mp and was used as a professional photo camera
1- ALEXA is not a hybrid camera is not meant for photos. 2- ALEXA has close to divine sensor... so you can't compare it to this sensor. I used it a 1000 times before, and the difference is clear right out of the box. not sure what they did there, but they created a holy grail of a sensor. It just wont be fair to compare it to any mirrorless honestly. There's a reason why ALEXA is 10X the price, without any fancy AF or IBIS or even 120fps at 4k 3- 16bit is a bit of a flashy number for marketing reasons, the difference between 12 and 16 bit is not humanly discernible. Even for grading, it's not "better" than 12bit in a practical sense. Just like saying 8K and 16k, they're both good. 16k is an overkill. They're both good enough for everything we need now and also are pretty much future proof. Don't fall for this "16bit" 4- 16MP in the ikon is already better than 12... and yes, 15 years ago, that was a good standard to work with. But 2020, it's not anymore, you'll simply fall behind and limit yourself if you adopt a 12MP for photos as a commercial photographer. Clients won't hire you... trust me.
@@THEDPJOURNEY perhaps 16 bit is a gimmick, but the s1h prores raw is flawed than. because s1h 12 bit raw lacks the flexibility of other raw cameras.......using third party tools like "Assimilate Scratch" it cannot change white balance like you can with the still raw images from s1h (looks more like a prores 444 file). Red has full white balance control with 16 bit r3d red files ......maybe the a7siii will have the same limitation of non changeable white balance in raw. black-magic does fine with 12 bit files (although blackmagic do bake in some info) I've worked as a DIT on feature films proccesing 8k red heluim footage as B cam, and 2.8k arri alexa footage as A cam, they both look great. I am not saying less resolution is better, just that I would always take dynamic range over resolution. Cropping is nice, but if you change framing too much (crop into sides) than I find lens distortion can ruin shots and given the better lowlight performance of the a7siii, it's likely to mean less noise (higher dynamic range) in Raw. the nikon d4 came out in 2012. for product shots, fashion shoots, landscape......than higher megapixels is important. but for event work there is minimal difference as I'm often shooting at high ISO (1600-6400), so the detail from higher MP is lost after deniosing the images. granted I do 85% video, 15% photos. I do appreciate your videos. they are well made, I look forward to seeing your breakdown on the two cameras. I did want to share my thoughts on the two. every camera has it's pros and cons
Yeah prores coming out of S1H sucks... I have 2 long episodes breaking everything down if you’re interested to spend 45 min watching them :) I used to have a helium then replaced it with Gemini now... shot with Alexa so many times, so I do agree on the importance of DR, I would add to it color science. Yeah smaller K is not better, it just has some limitations you need to be aware of. That’s all am saying. I personally... and I stress on “personally” wouldn’t shoot professional work with less than 20MP. Not all wedding couples would like to have their day captured in 12mp in 2020. I made sure to make this very clear it’s a personal choice for me shooting at 20MP. If anyone wants to shoot 12mp in a pro setting, then please do... am not here to tell you what to do or not to do. Am only “sharing” my “personal” experience and opinion. Which I know won’t please everyone. But I’m sure it’ll help you decide what’s best for you. Thanks again for watching and for your support
I have to believe those 57 downvotes are from Sony fan boys :D I TOTALLY agree re: the pixel-shifting hi-res mode.. why?? That would make this A7S3 a much stronger play for the hobbyist like me who wants it all. Another great presentation!
@@THEDPJOURNEY No problem! I thought it was just going to be a a7s3 break down but got a lot more value as you were comparing it to its competitors in great simple detail. So I'd suggest adding comparisoin to _____ camera . but either way amazing work!
As always: Great work done with this video. Its so much more Logical to compare the A7S3 to an S1H then to an R5. Owning and loving the S1 a lot, I would sum it up with this: S1H is a great Tool for Video work over all. The A7S3 has more features to support a run and gun style of shooting (AF/LowLight), but lacks with waveforms, shutter degree etc. . Choosing between them just depends on your kind of work (and workflow). For hybrid-jobs the S1H/S1 is a better option as well - or a second Sony-Body. Personally I think it is a great time in this compact camera segment for consumers.
Let just be honest shall we: There is no one, absolutely no one on earth that does better camera related reviews than you do! I feel like I owe you money after watching that video! 💰💰💰
@@EdStarkey hahah.. you're not the first one to ask me actually that I'm starting to consider it seriously! I want to offer you guys a lot more there, so let me cook it right. Again... THANK YOU fo being so awesome
I 2nd this comment, in terms of detail and delivery while still being very interesting. I don't believe there's anyone else on youtube that makes reviews of this quality. Thank you so much for providing us with such quality videos.
People have commented that the stabilisation of the A7S3 isn't crash-hot, and for me the colour out of it really seems to be lacking something compared to the R5. (personal preference, no doubt) That said, aside from the overheating, Sony nailed a lot of simple things like being able to record to dual card slots.
I was also wondering about the lack of pixel shift. I would love to take this for landscapes and astro work as I want to go more towards video, and my a7iii is limiting, but i dont want to carry two bodies while im hiking. landscapes would be perfect for pixel shift.
Totally agree about the 12mp stills limitations, for my work at least (others won't care if it's only for social media). I'd buy this camera in a heartbeat if it was higher but then there would be other compromises obviously. I remember 12mp on the old Nikons but I've had billboard and crop issues with 20mp in the past. Now I would shoot 60% stills and 40% video and the R5 got me excited, and then disappointed. I need reliability and if your camera isn't working, you don't have a camera. Hopefully those issues can be addressed. Good times for photo/video really. Great video.
9:26 I agree, 12 megapixels isn't enough, unless... With new ai software like topaz gigapixel, you could easily crop in and upscale the image with these techniques, it won't work for the most demanding high detail shoots but will work just fine for most applications.
I love my A7SIII but yoa Sony...just put in the pixel shift! I also own an A7RIV an would never use the SIII for seriuos work, but as an hybrid professional it would make me very happy to be able to use pixel shift on many occasions, and have some croppability in my images so i can repurpose the same shot for many uses, i do that all the time with the RIV as well! Great vid BTW
gen x tech guy 😂 yeah well done. But you can‘t go wrong with both of them. I think I‘ll give SONY a try for doing so much Right on this camera. I ve got an S1 - very nice camera I can tell. But because of bad af I have Not imvested in and native Glass. No shutter angle is á Downside of the S1 and will be on the A7s3 as well. Tools like waveform are always available on a external Monitor - and if I Dont have One on the cam, I‘ll Go with the Zebras 🦓 😉
You are such a pro. This should be one of the most popular tech channels. I'm so appreciative that I can view these. You should open up a patreon so we can send you some $$ for all your work. Thanks 👍
Thank you so much for the awesome support and kind words. Really happy to have you onboard. Actually a lot of viewers were requesting Patreon... I’m starting to consider it actually. But I wanna make sure I can offer you so much beyond what TH-cam will offer. So let me work on it. Thanks again for your valuable support
Great work as always, absolutely love the presentation, graphics and concise, incisive and professionally informed content. However, a few sticking points... pixel binning is not the same as line skipping, which is what the R5 normal 4K does, therefore introducing moire and mush... pixel binning is actually creating a 'super pixel' by combining the average from the 'excess pixels', but surely you know this? Btw, you have typo immediately after that excerpt at 7:29: 'Cnaon'? Having had the Canon R5 for 2 weeks and being apalled by the overheating, after extensive testing I'm happy with the fact I can record unlimited 4K HQ with the Atomos Ninja V or using crop mode, as it's an acceptable trade off for the quality compared to the A7S III. It also saves a huge amount on media, being able to record on cheap 1-2TB SSDs instead of the extortionate CFExpress. Love your work either way dude.
Hey Richard, yeah I never said that P.Binning is the same as L.Skipping, I already explained binning visually in the episode as you saw I guess. In all cases they're both bad... whichever Canon end up using. I felt it's more like pixel binning from the samples I've seen. Yeah that typo was a bit late to fix! I saw it when it too late
@@THEDPJOURNEY From what I've learnt, it is that line skipping is worse as it's ommitting an entire line of information as opposed to making an informed approximation from the additional information in the case of pixel binning? I trust and respect your knowledge and experience so would love to know your opinion on image quality between the A7S III, S1H, R5, BMPCC 6K. Not trying to defend the R5 in any way, as I also own the BMPCC 6K, A7 III and S1, but the 4K HQ coming from the R5 is pretty impressive.
Yes of course line skipping is worse. I meant that both are bad choices in general that you don’t see much cameras adopt. I’ll try yes and do some comparisons once I get the s3. Stay tuned
I was already waiting for a video of yours touching on the Panasonic S1H vs Sony A7SIII, while it does not address everything, in a full head to head comparison, it does share some important insights [much appreciated!]. Specs alone do not translate into inherent final film(ic) quality, investing 2K$ upwards + lenses (hence system) is a massive undertaking/decision, therefore would you assess S1H as a sensible path (how well will it hold value as a tool), or would it be best to hold and wait for a new Panasonic S1H version (or even a Sony A7IV)? Would you expect the S1H price will drop, as this is make easier a purchase decision :D ?!
You saved my day: just have bought the S1H 3 month back. And was wondering whether waiting for the new Sony might have been the better option. No I know better -:)
Not sure if you watched my other S1H videos.. but yeah the S1H is an awesome camera in many areas.... it sucks in others though, some of which I mentioned here. But again, it all depends on what makes more sense to you.
The DP Journey I fully agree. And all your other videos on the S1H ultimately convinced me to buy it -:) I really love your fact based, though inspiringly narrative style. Pls keep on going!
I used to be creative director in advertising for 10 years before becoming a filmmaker. Back when the highest megapixel was a 12 megapixel camera. So yes. But over the years we saw the awesome potential a higher megapixel will give you, which I mentioned. Point is, I won’t buy this camera for professional photography when I have a tons more options that are more dedicated for photo
Bringing two cameras as a backup is a must for professionals anyway, so I personally would go with a Sony A7R nd the S III. Or if you can afford the lenses Canon R5 and S III.
Confusion: Sony A7SIII sensor is 4240 pixels wide. With 1.104 crop, with active steadyshot or 4K 120p, you get 3840 pixels horizontal. I think one of your points you state that you get LESS than 3840 UHD when in Active or 120p. Am I incorrect in how Sony is working thier sensor and stated sensor specifications? My confusion also lies in that if my understanding is correct, then the A7SIII is slightly oversampling 4240 down to 3840 UHD? :-\
there's no 100% information out there that explains this honestly. I doubt they're oversampling 4240 to 3840 since this might do more damage than good actually. oversampling, to be done correctly, the difference between the source and target res should be much bigger, 6K to 4K minimum. otherwise sharpness will be compromised
Bobody wanted an unreliable 8k camera, nor a cumbersome to use (but otherwise excellent) pocket 6k camera. We want good 4k, no overheating, no recording limit, ibis and good autofocus. I could even get away with mind blowing 1080p really
Great video, but I would not say we are in an 8K world just yet for the vast majority. Anyone shooting for billboards won't be buying the A7S3, they will have the A7R4.
Also I think it’s a myth that you need high resolution for billboards. The viewing distance is so great that you don’t need much resolution. I heard once that 2 MP is enough. So the A7siii would be more than enough for billboards 😁
@@THEDPJOURNEY hahah I know what you saying, but at the same time those that have been using 8k most likely won't be looking for a mirrorless style body anyway, they'll be after cinema camera form factor. The target market for the A7SIII is totally different. Videographers, wedding film makers etc. It's gonna have huge sales.
why bring the FX9 to the oversampling example? The A7III does it, etc, there was no need to bring camcorder to the argument. Also the S1 does the same 4k as the S1h and does it without a fan, so the fan isnt to film 4k oversampled
I brought the FX9 just to prove it since it's a pro Video camera as they literally mention oversampling in the page, rather than stating the A7III, which would sound as an opinion. The fan in S1H is for many other reasons anyway.. I was keeping things short, not to go off-topic, it's about the S3 after all. Thanks for watching Bruno
wait, you can shoot anamorfic on a camera that undertsands what the heck that is? Anyway the A7III already oversamples from 6k and doesnt overheat as far as i know
@@meraakifilms Yeah that's a bit of a pickle... I personally like the S1h... AF needs some work. I believe they'll still improve it further in all cases. Maybe not to the level of SONY and Canon, but closer than what it is now
please compare sony a7siii with bmpcc 6k and panasonic s1H
We live in a time where any bloody camera that's released nowadays is awesome. Each has their own strengths and fills the needs of very different persons. For me, the sony a7siii is perfect :)
The A7SIII is a great camera. I bought 1 to test, and I feel i might keep it. I believe though that cameras should be judged by how perfect they are for "Projects" not for "Filmmakers". Unless all you shoot is the same type fo stuff, then yeah you can say "It's perfect for me"
I have like 7-8 cameras... I never had one that I can say it works for all my projects.
@@THEDPJOURNEY I agree. I own a GH5, and the BMPCC4K, and I have a Sony a6400 arriving today. Crazy, huh?
@@PPLRRN nope it has good IBIS. Just enough to remove the small micro jitters, not too strong to give weird warping in the corners
Thanks for this, I was not really interested in the A7SIII but the way you made this video made me stay. Incredible way of explaining! (happy owner of the S1H)
Thanks a lot for the kind words. Glad it made a difference to you
I really like how you explain everything with such clarity and detail. It makes the process of deciding what cameras to consider purchasing a much easier process.
Thanks Todd, really happy to hear things are made easier for everyone
Wow I just discovered your channel while I was searching for information on the A7s iii. You’re a wonderful teacher. The way you explain things is both informative and interesting. I’ve seen a lot of TH-camrs talk about gear, but you really impressed me with your straight talk and real world experience as a DP. Keep up the amazing work. Subscribed.
It’s my utmost pleasure having you onboard John! Glad you like the content, awesome people like you are the reason why I’m here on TH-cam! Thanks again for your support
it was really informative, i have never seen a comparison video like this, expecting more from this channel
Glad you liked it
I freaking love your content. Always thoroughly researched and clearly explained. As a Creative Director in NYC I really appreciate you sharing your real world professional experience. It is a breath of fresh air when you consider most TH-camrs are just enthusiasts.
Thank you so much for such the kind and supportive comment! Really happy you liked the channel and the content. 👍👍
I get tired just thinking about all the motion graphics work in your videos. Great video!
Hahahaha... yeah a lot of work indeed... But it's fun after all. If you liked it, then it's worth it
@@THEDPJOURNEY oh yeah, the motion graphics are next level, i too imagined, omg, how many layers is his AE project counting :D
your videos are really the best, not only informative on new products but i learn and progress with them! thank you!!
Glad you like them! Always a pleasure
You have earned my respect. Very informative. You deserve the 5mill Peter McKinnon has. I can't stand the: "so I shot this on a wide aperture, it was like f1.4, I used a 25mm most expensive lens I can get affiliates from, and I just pretend to know what I'm doing but I don't" type of videos lately, they annoy the living xxx out of me. I have a Panasonic GH5 myself and I'm looking to buy either the Sony A7Siii, or the Sony A7C. Since I'm not a professional Filmmaker myself, I think the siii is overkill. The GH5 kind of is too, but it was very affordable for what it offers. I absolutely hate the AF though and after many ruined footage and nights of filming, I finally got fed up with it. So that's why I'm in the market for a new camera. Hopefully you'll have a video on the Sony A7C too!
Thanks for your professional explanation as always. Very good video with a clear and helpful speech. Waiting to watch your own Sony as7iii review!
My pleasure! Hopefully review coming soon
I love how educational your videos are. And the amount of effort you put into graphics is praiseworthy too.
Thank you so much Brandon for your support and appreciation. Means a lot
Man if you know how long I have been waiting for this video. Let me get my popcorn and sit back and enjoy this
Hahaha... hope you like it buddy. Make it popcorn for 2 please
what 8k world??? no even cinema project in 4k, they 2k or 3k most of them, and if you need more Mpxs go for a7R line with 42Mpxs; even ARRI that is the major movie camera is only 4k
Hey Gerardo, check the description.. I'm being sarcastic. Maybe it's not clear int he video
FYI: Arri 65 is a 6.K Camera.
RED helium, launched 4 years ago is 8K
So the point in the end is how the S3 is going in the opposite direction to where others are going with 6k...8k.. and even 12K
@@THEDPJOURNEY Sorry didn't get the sarcasm. And yes Arri 65 is 6K but how many 65s are in the market??, RED is not the standart, is a puch limit company but not the standart, I have a Terra 6K and 7 diferent 4K cameras, most videos end up in 1080 and some of them in 4K. And I love the real 1 to 1 read out from a 12mpx sensor. Any way your video is fun and easy to follow. But a little confusing in terms of what you really need, the A7SIII is a video centric camera and that is why Sony have the A7R line for resolution
@@gerardocamposfilms same here, i thought i missed something lol
Yup agreed about all you say... I’m not trying to tell you it’s a good camera or it’s a bad camera... and I don’t usually ride the hype wave either which could be very misleading. I’m just pointing things out for you to connect your own dots that make sense to you. Thanks again for watching. Glad to have you here
The DP Journey this comment sounds so bad coming from you, No sony isn't going the opposite direction, everyone who buys this camera know that they will primarily be shooting videos, so the resolution doesn't matter that much the actual footage matters more, comparing it to red 8k and arri 65 6k is also really weird cause arri also make lower resolution cameras so they're going the opposite direction too? No, each camera have their own pros/cons yes sony advertise it as good still camera, arri would do the same if their cameras can shoot photos, it's just marketing, no average users would buy a $3500 camera without knowing that it is not the best photo camera out there
I just got that "Monster" S1H. Very Nice! there are lot of great cameras out now, just use the one that works for you.
YUP!.. Enjoy the S1H. I have 1 as well
Congrats man, that's a hell of a camera. Im too much into the Sony ecosystem or believe me, the S1H would already been shooting for me. If Sony didnt release the A7SIII by the end if summer, I was going to get the S1H.
Any way, happy shooting :-)
I also have the S1H. Love the picture.
I own the S1h and besides the great IQ, build quality and all the super filmmaker tools it is giving me a lot of doubts, especially the AF. Often I am a one man show and on more than one occasion I wasn't sure if the image was going to be sharp. For me personally this A7sIII would have been a better choice because of the maxed out 4k features (I don't need more), the weight and of course the great autofocus. Also the L-mount might not be it for me. I'm waiting for the new firmware update Panasonice has announced to make a final decision. Any other S1h owners willing to share their thoughts?
Love your videos. Packed full of great info delivered in an efficient and engaging format. You're the first and only channel I've ever subscribed to notifications. Regarding the A7Siii, why not just go with a dedicated cinecam if seeking a video camera (which is basically that the A7Siii is trying to be). There are lightweight options available on the market at the same price point, and any size advantage the A7Siii has goes right out the window as soon as start caging up and adding external monitor, etc.
Edit: Should add, I can however see how the A7Siii makes sense if already invested in Sony system, so can share glass across bodies.
Thanks for the support and the notification :)
Cinecams are pretty bulky, much bulkier than a caged Mirrorless... in all cases there's no such thing as perfect camera. Thanks again for the support
@@THEDPJOURNEY Generally true. I opted for a Z-cam. Had the S1H recorded ProRes 422 internal (like Z-cam) then I would have gone with it since can double as a still good stills camera. Again, IMHO, better off with a small form factor cinecam like Z-cam or BMPCC than A7Siii, unless wanting to re-purpose E-mount glass. But I completely agree with your assessment -- no perfect camera.
Excellent technical breakdown. The technical explanation and visualization of the conventional sensor vs. the back-illuminated sensor at 13:33 is brilliant. Thanks for this one. 🙏
Glad it was helpful!
great video as always! a lot of work behind
can I ask you something? is there any way to record 6K ProRes NOT RAW with the S1H?
Unfortunately not... 6k is internal h265 only. Or Raw external. I wonder why they don’t have that in 6k none raw as well
I'm so much looking forward for your take on the A7sIII... specially compared to the S1H... it feels like the other relevant technical reviwers as Gerald Undone are kind of bias towards Sony, failing to point out the camera weak areas and compromises...
I love the quality of your videos. Keep creating!
Glad you like them!
Nicely done man. I didn't really think about the pixel shift tech for the photos on the A7S3. I feel Canon can make an EOS R4 with 12MP focused on video
Yeah why not. Thanks for watching buddy
Assuming the a7 IV launches in the spring and has the new color science and 10-bit 4:2:2, I could see using it alongside the a7s III if I need the oversampled 6K to 4K. Not a perfect solution, but hey...
That’s sounds like a plan actually... but hey... will they launch the a7IV this year! Kinda doubt it
The DP Journey My guess is spring 2021. 😅
That sounds more realistic yes
“I want legendary low light performance for video”
“I need all of the megapixels”
This is a video centric camera. People aren’t buying it for photography. Being in a mirrorless body is just a sidebar.
Check SONY’s own launch and promotion videos, they talk about the camera being great photo camera. So yeah, being a photo camera as a sidebar is more like your opinion, but surely not sony’s
Hello, I would like to know exactly what oversampling is Please explain easily.
Man I'd love to see a review about the Canon C70 made by you !
Like, do you think the long gop codec reduce the quality way to much ? Personally I think that we've reached a quality that is so high that you can't notice those things when you watch the video on real-time.
You could only notice it if you take 2 footages side by side (all-i and long gop) and look at them frame by frame.
Same question about having no raw. I think we can really do beautiful colorgradings on a 422 10 bit file.
What do you think ?
I’m assuming Sony will announce the a7iv next year, with 10bit video, etc & 24Mp photography.
yeah I have the same feeling
I've always considered your videos as THE reference material for the topics you cover . What you say about Panasonic is true. If they had a very close 3rd place AF compared to Canon's and Sony's latest offerings they would be considered some of the best cameras in the world.
Thanks for support and believing in my opinion. Yeah totally agree about S1H. They need to work out their AF!
Because of your detailed visuals, your camera review videos are the easiest to comprehend. I hope you will have a follow up video once you get your hands on the Sony A7S III where you show sample footage comparisons including the special capabilities of each camera, e.g., 4k 120 or anamorphic
Thanks Simon! Yeah can’t wait to start testing
Terrific review.👏👏 Waiting for the sequel video.👍
Thanks 👍Stay tuned then
another nice one! very interesting analysis of the A7SIII current standing
Thanks a lot!
For my nerdy needs, you / Gerald and P.Bloom are more than enough. Thank you.
I absolutely love the way you go into technical details while also explaining it in a way camera noobs can understand it, and how you support your narration with beautiful and clear motion graphics! Really gold TH-cam standard!
Thank yo so much for the kind words, really appreciate your awesome support!
Well done sir. Thank you for recognizing that the A7Siii's real competition is the S1H! I don't know why all these other TH-cam reviewers insist on comparing the R5's video capabilities (a photo first camera) with the A7Siii's video capabilities (a video first camera). But yet don't do an R5 vs A7Siii photo comparison. That because they wouldn't compare. It'd be like comparing a Ferrari with a G-Wagon, they don't compare.
Yeah true. I guess it’s because they came out at the same time... but that’s not a reason to compare them still. I was also surprised at how no one mentioned the S1H
AWESOME MAN LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING FULL HANDS-ON REVIEW ................NO ONE CAN BEAT YOUR TECHNICAL REVIEW .....
Thanks man! I'll make sure to not dissapoint!
Your channel is underrated af. Very useful info!
Thanks for the support :)
Thanks for your insight. Always appreciate the depth of your research. A big issue (for me) in the A7S III lowlight footage shot by Phillip Bloom is heavy NR artifacts. Massive loss of detail and smearing. The S1H used to suffer from this too until a firmware update added a -1 setting that eliminated ghosting/smearing in V-Log. Hopefully Sony will do the same.
Hey Zak, yeah I'm waiting for my unit to come to properly test that actually. Stay tuned and I'll post findings
I'm not even looking at this camera, but I watched the video anyway as I always learn something! Your technical knowledge combined with super-clear explanations make it easy to digest, and I really appreciate the very practical orientation around "who is this camera for" and "what does it do well" (versus the competition).
One request, if it fits with your content plan. Could you take a look at entry level cinema cameras, and give us an overview of when/who should consider the step up from high end mirrorless to purpose-made cinema cameras? This is a decision I anticipate having to make in the future, and one which I've already started to think about. So I'm thinking of cameras like the Ursa Mini and Canon's C200 etc. It would be super interesting and useful to have you walk through how you decide which camera to use for a shoot, from the perspective of "right tool for the job."
Thanks for your effort on this channel, it's become my favourite gear-review channel... and that's saying something, given how many there are!
Thank you so much foe you compliment!
I was in fact planning exactly that... wanted to share my experience in jumping from dslr/mirrorless to cinema. I have a lot of things I would surely love to share. Just wanna get some other episodes out the way and I’ll work on that one. Thanks again for being awesome! Really happy you find my videos useful
The DP Journey - Brilliant news, thank you! It's not an imminent decision for me, so very happy to wait and enjoy in the meantime the other episodes you have planned. I'm sure it's a dilemma that more and more people are facing these days, as so many people have "grown into" (and perhaps "out of") their mirrorless cameras' video capabilities (many coming from photography backgrounds as you did). What prompted me to think about this, actually, was Canon's launch of the R5 and all its overheating problems... it made me wonder, "when IS a true cinema camera the right camera to buy?" That said, I can't believe how bad a mis-step Canon have made with the R5. As you say, it's damaged their brand image amongst the mirrorless brigade who were already moving away from Canon... such a shame.
Canon just launched the C70, which pretty much is the reason why they cripple they mirrorless. It’s “seems” like a great entry cinema camera
The DP Journey Yes I saw the press releases today. I guess if you're already adding XLR adapters, recorder, ND filter etc then there is a logic to going for a cine body rather than mirrorless. But value for money? Look forward to your take on how to weigh up all the options and simplify it all down to what really matters. My small brain and lack of experience can't cope LOL!!
The DP Journey - I just read this article on ProvideoCoalition that I thought you'd find interesting if you have't seen it yet: it's on the differences between the C300 and C500, focusing on the practicalities of the S35 vs full frame sensors of these cameras. I thought it was brilliant: very similar in style to your videos, in that the insights are super practical and useful rather than merely technical (in an academic sort of way).
I bought the S1H a couple months ago. I mainly use it to make music videos. It does great in 4K 25 FPS in Full Frame, but when I need to take slow motion B-Roll shots, it sucks that I need to go 1080p to do 60 FPS in Full Frame. The 4K 60 FPS Full Frame option is very nice from the A7s III. If the A7s III had a higher megapixel, I'd switch cameras instantly. But the low megapixel count is something that makes me want to keep my S1H, because I sometimes to photography work aswell. Come to think of it, I don't do professional photography that much. Very rarely.
I might change it up... Hmm.
This is interesting, when the r4 first came people were complaining where is the video specs, and everybody was like it’s a photo camera it’s not made for that, now the opposite is happening to the s3.
It’s only proves that technology is not ready to have a hybrid that’s equally good in both photo and video. My point about photography was not complaining about it, but countering arguments that it’s a pro photo camera. Hope that clarifies my opinion... not sure who “my people” are you were referring to though
The DP Journey sorry that’s not supposed to be “your people” just people 😂
I read an article from last year where the author stripped down an a7s III sensor and found it is actually a 48MP sensor configured in a 2x2 binning mode. Suggestion was that due to Sony sensor design that this could be contributing to more sensor read noise. Looking at photons to photos it seems the a7s II has lower read noise than the a7s III, despite having an FSI sensor where the a7s III is BSI.
With the GH6 out now which is capable of very similar frame rates, video bit depth (plus Pro Res internal) and dynamic range (in DR boost mode), I wonder if it is the better option? While AF is important, I'm thinking the IQ boost of 5.7k and significantly oversampled 4k has the GH6 (with good glass) as the better value prospect for indie film makers?
Great Video and good points! I look forward to the Lumix S2H and GH6 :)))
Thanks 🙏 honestly we’re all overwhelmed by the amount of camera releases! We need a break! Hahhaha
I wonder how he would feel about the Sony A7IV down sampling to 4k VS A7S3 4k. And if he would choose A7IV as his all around camera for Video and stills VS A7S3 for video and his A73 for stills.
Love your videos, would you pick the s1h over the a7siii overall? I'm looking for a good low-profile hybrid for travel filmmaking. Or are there other ones you suggest? I currently have a bmpcc4k and love BRAW, but rigged out, it is a pain to travel with. I heard some people love a7siii, some people hate the codecs, Thanks!!
If you’re looking for a travel camera, then probably the A7S3 is better in terms of size and portability. On the other hand I personally prefer the S1H look and functionality more than the A7S3.
I am really looking forward to a S1H versus Sony A7S3.
Because of your video I bought a S1H and that thing is a monster
Yeah honestly me too... wanna see how they compare. Really happy I helped you make the right choice. Thanks for the support Rob!
@@THEDPJOURNEY thank you!
@@THEDPJOURNEY what are your thoughts on the Panasonic S5 leaked specs? Seems like small version of S1h.
Yeah I’m waiting to see the official release befor I share my thoughts. But yeah it sure looks like a mini S1H
Thank you, I learned a lot. And I love my a7siii even more now!
Thanks for watching
Extremely informative and very well explained, as usual! Thank you once more for your valuable insight👍
My pleasure!
Thanks for the great insight. Always learn a lot from this channel. Appreciate!
Thanks a lot for the support. Glad you find my content useful
The low MP in the SIII is for less noise. So Sony S line = low MP // "Normal" line = medium MP // and R line = high MP. It's easy. Choose the line for your work. Thanks to Gerald Undone.
Yup
S for sensitivity R for resolution
That is by far not all that makes it the camera for videomakers that it is. Better loe light, dynamic range, rolling shutter, high frame rates, full HDMI, flip out screen, 422 10bit All-i, new microphone choices...
The infographics are good and easy to understand. Good work
Cheers... Glad they are useful :)
After a long time. Happy to see you again.
Glad to be here... Yeah got busy lately. Thanks for the support
11:26 - CNAON, they might need to consider the name and rebrand after R5 :) Thanks for the video!
Yeah...some small ones slip in the cracks
the arri alexa is a hollywood standard camera and is 2.8k. the a7siii has 16 bit raw output, best lowlight, best dynamic range and best autofocus of the current mirror-less cameras. the nikon d4 was only 16mp and was used as a professional photo camera
1- ALEXA is not a hybrid camera is not meant for photos.
2- ALEXA has close to divine sensor... so you can't compare it to this sensor. I used it a 1000 times before, and the difference is clear right out of the box. not sure what they did there, but they created a holy grail of a sensor. It just wont be fair to compare it to any mirrorless honestly. There's a reason why ALEXA is 10X the price, without any fancy AF or IBIS or even 120fps at 4k
3- 16bit is a bit of a flashy number for marketing reasons, the difference between 12 and 16 bit is not humanly discernible. Even for grading, it's not "better" than 12bit in a practical sense. Just like saying 8K and 16k, they're both good. 16k is an overkill. They're both good enough for everything we need now and also are pretty much future proof. Don't fall for this "16bit"
4- 16MP in the ikon is already better than 12... and yes, 15 years ago, that was a good standard to work with. But 2020, it's not anymore, you'll simply fall behind and limit yourself if you adopt a 12MP for photos as a commercial photographer. Clients won't hire you... trust me.
@@THEDPJOURNEY perhaps 16 bit is a gimmick, but the s1h prores raw is flawed than. because s1h 12 bit raw lacks the flexibility of other raw cameras.......using third party tools like "Assimilate Scratch" it cannot change white balance like you can with the still raw images from s1h (looks more like a prores 444 file). Red has full white balance control with 16 bit r3d red files ......maybe the a7siii will have the same limitation of non changeable white balance in raw. black-magic does fine with 12 bit files (although blackmagic do bake in some info)
I've worked as a DIT on feature films proccesing 8k red heluim footage as B cam, and 2.8k arri alexa footage as A cam, they both look great. I am not saying less resolution is better, just that I would always take dynamic range over resolution. Cropping is nice, but if you change framing too much (crop into sides) than I find lens distortion can ruin shots
and given the better lowlight performance of the a7siii, it's likely to mean less noise (higher dynamic range) in Raw.
the nikon d4 came out in 2012. for product shots, fashion shoots, landscape......than higher megapixels is important. but for event work there is minimal difference as I'm often shooting at high ISO (1600-6400), so the detail from higher MP is lost after deniosing the images. granted I do 85% video, 15% photos.
I do appreciate your videos. they are well made, I look forward to seeing your breakdown on the two cameras. I did want to share my thoughts on the two. every camera has it's pros and cons
Yeah prores coming out of S1H sucks... I have 2 long episodes breaking everything down if you’re interested to spend 45 min watching them :)
I used to have a helium then replaced it with Gemini now... shot with Alexa so many times, so I do agree on the importance of DR, I would add to it color science. Yeah smaller K is not better, it just has some limitations you need to be aware of. That’s all am saying.
I personally... and I stress on “personally” wouldn’t shoot professional work with less than 20MP. Not all wedding couples would like to have their day captured in 12mp in 2020. I made sure to make this very clear it’s a personal choice for me shooting at 20MP. If anyone wants to shoot 12mp in a pro setting, then please do... am not here to tell you what to do or not to do. Am only “sharing” my “personal” experience and opinion. Which I know won’t please everyone. But I’m sure it’ll help you decide what’s best for you.
Thanks again for watching and for your support
So good and educational! Thank you - how did you do all the animated graphics?
Would you advise I get the canon eos 70 over a73s
It depends on many things... but I personally like it. It’s not really to be compared with a7siii but rather the fx6 or fs5
The DP Journey okay thanks
I have to believe those 57 downvotes are from Sony fan boys :D I TOTALLY agree re: the pixel-shifting hi-res mode.. why?? That would make this A7S3 a much stronger play for the hobbyist like me who wants it all. Another great presentation!
Exactly! Yeah there are a lot SONY fanboys out there. I dare not to Say any bad word about SONY LOL
Excellent video quality and entertaining as well.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks
Thanks for going over why 12Mp doesn’t work for a lot of photography, especially portrait & fashion photography.
Absolutely!
I love this! I’ve been waiting for this highly detailed analysis! Thank you!
(misspelling @7:33 “CNAON” 😬)
I know!!! damn it.. hahaha.... gotta have more sleep to see those things
Amazing comparisons! The title doesn't do the video justice!
Thanks buddy! really appreciate it. What title would you suggest then :)
@@THEDPJOURNEY No problem! I thought it was just going to be a a7s3 break down but got a lot more value as you were comparing it to its competitors in great simple detail. So I'd suggest adding comparisoin to _____ camera . but either way amazing work!
As always: Great work done with this video. Its so much more Logical to compare the A7S3 to an S1H then to an R5. Owning and loving the S1 a lot, I would sum it up with this: S1H is a great Tool for Video work over all. The A7S3 has more features to support a run and gun style of shooting (AF/LowLight), but lacks with waveforms, shutter degree etc. . Choosing between them just depends on your kind of work (and workflow). For hybrid-jobs the S1H/S1 is a better option as well - or a second Sony-Body.
Personally I think it is a great time in this compact camera segment for consumers.
Totally agree
Looking forward to your S1H in depth comparison! :)
I was waiting this video! Ty so much
Pleasure 😉
Let just be honest shall we: There is no one, absolutely no one on earth that does better camera related reviews than you do!
I feel like I owe you money after watching that video! 💰💰💰
THANK YOU for such awesome comment. You don't owe me anything! I owe you so much for these awesome words of support though!
@@THEDPJOURNEY just get a Patreon account and I'll send you money. I know how much time such production value takes!
@@EdStarkey hahah.. you're not the first one to ask me actually that I'm starting to consider it seriously! I want to offer you guys a lot more there, so let me cook it right. Again... THANK YOU fo being so awesome
I 2nd this comment, in terms of detail and delivery while still being very interesting. I don't believe there's anyone else on youtube that makes reviews of this quality. Thank you so much for providing us with such quality videos.
Another incredible video, really appreciate your knowledge and attention to detail, thank you
Much appreciated! Thanks for watching ;)
People have commented that the stabilisation of the A7S3 isn't crash-hot, and for me the colour out of it really seems to be lacking something compared to the R5. (personal preference, no doubt) That said, aside from the overheating, Sony nailed a lot of simple things like being able to record to dual card slots.
agreed
I was also wondering about the lack of pixel shift. I would love to take this for landscapes and astro work as I want to go more towards video, and my a7iii is limiting, but i dont want to carry two bodies while im hiking. landscapes would be perfect for pixel shift.
Better review till date...Thank's 💐🙏👍
Totally agree about the 12mp stills limitations, for my work at least (others won't care if it's only for social media). I'd buy this camera in a heartbeat if it was higher but then there would be other compromises obviously. I remember 12mp on the old Nikons but I've had billboard and crop issues with 20mp in the past.
Now I would shoot 60% stills and 40% video and the R5 got me excited, and then disappointed. I need reliability and if your camera isn't working, you don't have a camera. Hopefully those issues can be addressed. Good times for photo/video really. Great video.
Thanks a lot buddy! Agree on all you said. The year is not over and I know more cameras are coming... so stay tuned ;)
9:26 I agree, 12 megapixels isn't enough, unless... With new ai software like topaz gigapixel, you could easily crop in and upscale the image with these techniques, it won't work for the most demanding high detail shoots but will work just fine for most applications.
Fantastic analysis as always. Thank you so much!
Always a pleasure
A lot of work in this video, well done
Thanks a lot!
This video was gold man! Was waiting for your video for a long time!
How about BMPCC6k vs A7Siii?
They’re very different cameras in many aspects... hard to compare.
@@THEDPJOURNEY yeah, that's a thing 😅.
Well I guess the most obvious comparison will be with S1H.
3:24 active stabilization point is not technically true, sensor is above 4k, active area crops to exactly 4k.
I love my A7SIII but yoa Sony...just put in the pixel shift! I also own an A7RIV an would never use the SIII for seriuos work, but as an hybrid professional it would make me very happy to be able to use pixel shift on many occasions, and have some croppability in my images so i can repurpose the same shot for many uses, i do that all the time with the RIV as well! Great vid BTW
So informative,very professional..
Cheers thanks
always an enjoyable watch my friend
Cheers buddy!!! happy to hear back from you. We miss your videos!
@@THEDPJOURNEY 😅 thanks!
Hi . Do you recommend prorest raw sony. To shoot a video clip?
I advise you watch this episode, hopefully it can answer your question: th-cam.com/video/EmiEQq2MAeU/w-d-xo.html
So my problem with this review is ... you make me want both the S1H and the A7S III. Otherwise great review.
hhahaa.. well there's no cameras that can be good for everything... So good luck. I own like 7-8 cameras because each is good for a specific task
gen x tech guy 😂 yeah well done. But you can‘t go wrong with both of them. I think I‘ll give SONY a try for doing so much Right on this camera. I ve got an S1 - very nice camera I can tell. But because of bad af I have Not imvested in and native Glass. No shutter angle is á Downside of the S1 and will be on the A7s3 as well. Tools like waveform are always available on a external Monitor - and if I Dont have One on the cam, I‘ll Go with the Zebras 🦓 😉
Great video! Hope you get your a7siii soon!
Yeah... very curious to see how it performs
You are such a pro. This should be one of the most popular tech channels. I'm so appreciative that I can view these. You should open up a patreon so we can send you some $$ for all your work. Thanks 👍
Thank you so much for the awesome support and kind words. Really happy to have you onboard. Actually a lot of viewers were requesting Patreon... I’m starting to consider it actually. But I wanna make sure I can offer you so much beyond what TH-cam will offer. So let me work on it. Thanks again for your valuable support
full datelining video .. nice video sir .. R5 vs 7iii or other camera
I might do something soon with the r5.. stay tuned. Thanks again
Great work as always, absolutely love the presentation, graphics and concise, incisive and professionally informed content. However, a few sticking points... pixel binning is not the same as line skipping, which is what the R5 normal 4K does, therefore introducing moire and mush... pixel binning is actually creating a 'super pixel' by combining the average from the 'excess pixels', but surely you know this? Btw, you have typo immediately after that excerpt at 7:29: 'Cnaon'? Having had the Canon R5 for 2 weeks and being apalled by the overheating, after extensive testing I'm happy with the fact I can record unlimited 4K HQ with the Atomos Ninja V or using crop mode, as it's an acceptable trade off for the quality compared to the A7S III. It also saves a huge amount on media, being able to record on cheap 1-2TB SSDs instead of the extortionate CFExpress. Love your work either way dude.
Hey Richard, yeah I never said that P.Binning is the same as L.Skipping, I already explained binning visually in the episode as you saw I guess. In all cases they're both bad... whichever Canon end up using. I felt it's more like pixel binning from the samples I've seen.
Yeah that typo was a bit late to fix! I saw it when it too late
@@THEDPJOURNEY From what I've learnt, it is that line skipping is worse as it's ommitting an entire line of information as opposed to making an informed approximation from the additional information in the case of pixel binning? I trust and respect your knowledge and experience so would love to know your opinion on image quality between the A7S III, S1H, R5, BMPCC 6K. Not trying to defend the R5 in any way, as I also own the BMPCC 6K, A7 III and S1, but the 4K HQ coming from the R5 is pretty impressive.
Yes of course line skipping is worse. I meant that both are bad choices in general that you don’t see much cameras adopt. I’ll try yes and do some comparisons once I get the s3. Stay tuned
@@THEDPJOURNEY I look forward to it, your outstanding work is a beacon in the midst of misinformation and mediocracy
I was already waiting for a video of yours touching on the Panasonic S1H vs Sony A7SIII, while it does not address everything, in a full head to head comparison, it does share some important insights [much appreciated!]. Specs alone do not translate into inherent final film(ic) quality, investing 2K$ upwards + lenses (hence system) is a massive undertaking/decision, therefore would you assess S1H as a sensible path (how well will it hold value as a tool), or would it be best to hold and wait for a new Panasonic S1H version (or even a Sony A7IV)? Would you expect the S1H price will drop, as this is make easier a purchase decision :D ?!
You saved my day: just have bought the S1H 3 month back. And was wondering whether waiting for the new Sony might have been the better option. No I know better -:)
Not sure if you watched my other S1H videos.. but yeah the S1H is an awesome camera in many areas.... it sucks in others though, some of which I mentioned here. But again, it all depends on what makes more sense to you.
The DP Journey I fully agree. And all your other videos on the S1H ultimately convinced me to buy it -:)
I really love your fact based, though inspiringly narrative style. Pls keep on going!
Ever shot billboards? 12 MP is fine actually. Reason is viewer distance to subject. Still nice to have 30mp or so for other reasons though.
I used to be creative director in advertising for 10 years before becoming a filmmaker. Back when the highest megapixel was a 12 megapixel camera. So yes. But over the years we saw the awesome potential a higher megapixel will give you, which I mentioned.
Point is, I won’t buy this camera for professional photography when I have a tons more options that are more dedicated for photo
Bringing two cameras as a backup is a must for professionals anyway, so I personally would go with a Sony A7R nd the S III. Or if you can afford the lenses Canon R5 and S III.
Yeah I'd say S1H and S3
Confusion: Sony A7SIII sensor is 4240 pixels wide. With 1.104 crop, with active steadyshot or 4K 120p, you get 3840 pixels horizontal. I think one of your points you state that you get LESS than 3840 UHD when in Active or 120p. Am I incorrect in how Sony is working thier sensor and stated sensor specifications? My confusion also lies in that if my understanding is correct, then the A7SIII is slightly oversampling 4240 down to 3840 UHD? :-\
there's no 100% information out there that explains this honestly. I doubt they're oversampling 4240 to 3840 since this might do more damage than good actually. oversampling, to be done correctly, the difference between the source and target res should be much bigger, 6K to 4K minimum. otherwise sharpness will be compromised
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Bobody wanted an unreliable 8k camera, nor a cumbersome to use (but otherwise excellent) pocket 6k camera.
We want good 4k, no overheating, no recording limit, ibis and good autofocus. I could even get away with mind blowing 1080p really
Great video, but I would not say we are in an 8K world just yet for the vast majority. Anyone shooting for billboards won't be buying the A7S3, they will have the A7R4.
Yeah I know... I mean we have 8k since 4 years ago with Red... now 12k with blackmagic. We live in the matrix man! LOL
Also I think it’s a myth that you need high resolution for billboards. The viewing distance is so great that you don’t need much resolution. I heard once that 2 MP is enough. So the A7siii would be more than enough for billboards 😁
@@THEDPJOURNEY hahah I know what you saying, but at the same time those that have been using 8k most likely won't be looking for a mirrorless style body anyway, they'll be after cinema camera form factor. The target market for the A7SIII is totally different. Videographers, wedding film makers etc. It's gonna have huge sales.
Waiting for your review of the siii harry up
For sure! Waiting for my unit to come
The Sony has a 4.2k sensor that is fully utilized in ProRes RAW
Yup... you might like what I said here then: th-cam.com/video/EmiEQq2MAeU/w-d-xo.html
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Thanks Jason
Amazing content, the graphics you use must take a while to create. Very impressive!
Thank you very much! Yes they do actually... but it's all worth it since I have awesome people like you that appreciate it :)
👏 nicely done my friend 👏
Thanks Jose!
I am lost with technology nowadays. What resolution and how many fps should we generally shot? Any advise?
My advise is shoot... forget about all this.
my brain hurts everytime when i watch a new video from you sir haha :D soo much info have to watch it twice :D thank you
Hahaha... I should offer Panadol giveaways with every video!! “Click on the link below to get your free Panadol pack”
why bring the FX9 to the oversampling example? The A7III does it, etc, there was no need to bring camcorder to the argument. Also the S1 does the same 4k as the S1h and does it without a fan, so the fan isnt to film 4k oversampled
I brought the FX9 just to prove it since it's a pro Video camera as they literally mention oversampling in the page, rather than stating the A7III, which would sound as an opinion. The fan in S1H is for many other reasons anyway.. I was keeping things short, not to go off-topic, it's about the S3 after all.
Thanks for watching Bruno
wait, you can shoot anamorfic on a camera that undertsands what the heck that is?
Anyway the A7III already oversamples from 6k and doesnt overheat as far as i know
Not sure what this question is about
@@THEDPJOURNEY didn't knew there were mirrorless cameras able to internally process anamorphic lenses
Yeah of course! Since the GH4 actually
Hi, S1H or A7S iii??
Depends
I am really drawn towards S1H but l mount and autofocus is holding me back and A7S iii lacks good photo quality. Help!!
@@meraakifilms Yeah that's a bit of a pickle... I personally like the S1h... AF needs some work. I believe they'll still improve it further in all cases. Maybe not to the level of SONY and Canon, but closer than what it is now