@@2012aster Nigar betrayed Hurrem once she started giving him her secrets, when they poisoned Isabella and tried to pin it on hurrem. Nigar lost her mind when she started dealing with Ibrahim and further lost her mind when she teamed up with Hatice. She should've stayed loyal, no excuses for her nor lies!!!!!
Ella es el alma de esta serie . Es maravillosa sin ella ya no es lo mismo . Meryem Uzerli ( Hurrem ) es una actriz y modelo de primera hoy está un poco diferente pero bellísima igual .
@@carolradovich7906 she isn't that at all, Carol. She is excellent because she is showing her dignity and humanity in an impossible position, very often, as her Choice. The others act out of ignorance and the wish to harm, Ibrahim being the first, Mahi out of utter ignorance and lack of education Hatice also lacking in education and free owning her acts --remember that she was sold off to some old man as her first sexual contact by the Dynasty; she doesn't care a fig for the Dynasty..Hurrem, however acts in real thought for the dynasty she has become the queen of, looking out for the others where she can.
Mustafa was so quick to blame Hurrem, but it was to protect him from assassination. In every religion pride always is an issue. They blame Hurrem but Hatice Malidveran was the blame for Mustafas demise.😢😢
Mustafa already went on a campaign and is governing a province. His younger brothers still need battle experience. He told Mehmet to be patient about going to a province, yet he's throwing a tantrum when the Sultan wants him to stay out of this campaign and can't think that he has any other reason than Hurrem said so. And of course, his dumb mother and auntie are there to fuel the flames.
interesting ( true) Queen ; ) It was about coming from ignorance and accepting that as "wisdom, bliss or love" none of which is true. The opposite. Separation ( which gives victim mode ) as "solution" ( not, the opposite of choosing where to focus one' energies, the real procedure...) is always deadly. Because based on courting death, instead of owning and loving life. The religions that espouse that -- like the three bible-torah-quran brothers, whom I now call sectes, because a reiigion is about teaching people their diviniy and the reponsability of Choices that goes wiih that beautiful love from Source in action -- are all based on forcing separation as something real on their victims...instead of owning that we are all of one material, Source materialized, extensions of Source...and that it matters what we do, truly. These people think that it doesn't "really" matter what they choose to do. Hürrem owns that it does, why, I would say, she created her lifepartner, her reflection ; ) as first the Artist, and then the Sultan, Ruler of the world ; ) Again, Mirimah should really have been the Choice to groom for the next person to be on the throne.
It is irritating to see gulfem talking abt,"" being cruel..being innocent( hatice)... preaching abt conscience 😡 She knew exactly abt all the cruelty hurrem was subjected to by suleiman sisters,mother& mahidevran since gulfem was also a part of all those things 😎but still has the audacity to come n blame hurrem 😡
Gulfem is just wanders of palace now she is acting like Mahidevran. No wonder because in the latest part when hurrem died she still hoping that Sulieman will be her. But sad to say Sulieman said( my life never exist without hurrem) such a pity to Gulfem
But all of hurrem children were aware of her evil place and at times they called her out for her wickedness so dont say she teached anything bettr to her children
@Lynx Uzumakiシ beyazid and even mirhima taunted her...also when nurbanu poisnd beyazid salim justified nurbanu act by saying "valida she did nuthing wronge even you did many things in past to servive" i don't think hurrem children had manners
@Lynx Uzumakiシ Hurrem was the reason for Mustafa death, and she knew it and so her children. Cihangir loved and hated his mother and father over his most beloved brother, Mustafa, because he knew she was the cause of it. I would have hated my parents, too, to be honest. Being honest to with your mother about her evil deeds, doesn't mean they had no manners. They just point out what kind of a mother she was. The most evil of her children, it was Selim, and the most stupid was Mihrimah because she was part of Mustafa death when she stole his seal
Wait what, that girl literally killed hurrem servant almost the same moment hurrem turned around, and that was like quarter a minute after she stopped assisting her in washing. Plus safiye stood there with a dagger raised, said something obvious that she came to kill hurrem... Yet one of the most bright of sultanas thought that she came to her aid, and everyone did belive it.. Seriously. One of the biggest flaws in the entire show. Even bigger than hurrem taking ages to figure out who firuze was, and sultan not knowing the sign of enemy dynasty.
Gulfem was Suleiman's most barbaric woman, in Suleiman's eyes Gulfem was the only good concubine. But Suleiman doesn't know that Gulfem is always involved in crime with Hatice and Mahidevran
It is not logic when your husband cheated on you then you blame anyone else😂 hurrem is nothing to do with ibrahim and nigar affair. Hurrem just revealing the true lol
Suleiman never consulted hurrem about the campaign. The decision regarding leaving mustafa behind was because of him questioning Ibrahim execution. He wanted to teach him a lesson. Too bad mustafa fell for the stupid traps. He should've apologised and sorted things out rather than turning against the sultan.
Wasn't it always like this? Not only with Hatice. Valide Sultan got away with everything and what about Mahidevran? She beat Hurrem up, sent poison to the Sultans table and almost killed Hurrem and her unborn son. None of them ever had to bear consequenzes. But the sheer assumption of being involved with something, without proof, Hurrem got punished over and over.
Hurrem's decisions: putting her own intelligent and loyal people on high positions to control all the government processes and build the future of her children Suleiman's decisions: water used for washing dishes or clothes should not be used twice!
Sure: they couldn' t blame Süleyman, also they blamed Hürrem! Like Nasuh Efendi - He blamed Nigar, because he not dare blame Ibrahim for the fornication!🤷
I must agreed with Shah Sultan here, what are u even involved in this, Gulfem? She can just live peacefully in harem, since she dont have to fight for children or Sultan love.
One big mistake of suleiman was...he didnt explain the reasons for the execution of ibrahim to his sister,esp hatice and also to mustafa& mahi That is why they thought ibrahim was innocent 😎 And hatice refusing to go away from her palace has got nothing to do with ibrahim' s memories,his love or anything like that....but only to protect the ill gotten wealth of ibrahim which was being hidden under their palace of which hatice is privy 😎😎
most men don't talk about their decisions especially if it is like that. IDK but I just noticed that from men. Unlike women who are talkative to talk about everything to anyone. I have also met a lot of male leaders and most of them do what the sultan did. IDK why they are like that. They don't care if they would be blamed as long as they know they did the right thing, they won't care what people say behind their back. They suffer in silence.
Because Imbrahim wants to die as a friend as a brother and as a companion of the Sultan that's why Suleyman d'dnt reveal the truth about Ibrahim's execution...
As sultan says ,he doesn't have to explain himself to anybody ,including them .hatice knows why ,she's not stupid .sultan is having the hardest time explaining to his nearest and dearest that his justice ,quiet rightly too includes his family ,especially his family since they like everyone else are also his subjects ,he goes to great pains to make this plain to his family .all the time ,I might add but ,I believe that they are all incapable of understanding that ,or ,if one ore two do they are excempt as his. Family and his sister's spouses
It's craaaazy how Hurrem will be blamed for every little thing that happens. And she's always presented as a demon, as if those women are good people and were not the first ones to start evil plotting. She's just a much better player when she's challenged. And when it came to Mustafa, she practically didn't even have to do anything besides creating a doubt. Hadice and Mahidevran's obsession turned this doubt into certainty.
Looking at this critically, no one is innocent. However, I cannot tolerate the murder plots. Too many lower class servants get killed when they are not involved. Those girls washing Hurrem's hair and the guard were killed because they were in the way. It's fundamentally unjust what both sides are doing.
One woman i despice the most is gulfem 😎she stuch herself first with valide,then hatice,mahidevran& sha huban only to live a lavish life in the palace 😎to please those ppl she included herself in their every plot,scheme& crime against hurrem 😎she was a woman with no dignity nor conscience 😎 Finally when everyone was gone,shamelessly she stuck withhurrem for a royal life 😎but still tried to kill suleiman himself 😎😎 We see some ppl like hercharacter who would do anything and change colours just for a comfortable rich life Gulfem is a shame for all the wommen 😎
@@nenitaabaya9970 You all justifies all evil deeds of Hurrem, the killings etc because of her love to Suleiman, and Nigar is not allowed to make a mistake for his love to Ibrahim? Lol. And what if Nigar had told Hurrem about their affair, Hurrem will still do the same, use her against Ibrahim because her only big time goal is to kick out Ibrahim. She does not care about anyone at all.
Nigar is nothing but a stupid woman that think she's clever enough.Without dignity,shameless loving others husband and proudly having baby through her sins.
I know that is just a fictional drama but...I'd like to way this - Hatice thinks the world must revolve around her. This character has been so irritating to me ever since so that I would just skip her scenes most of the time. She is so irrational and selfish...all she thinks about is herself. How I wish that she would be gone for the rest of the eposides and would never show up ever again. She is really getting on my nerves. Lol. Gulfem is also something else...how could she even sit around with Hatice's whining and complaints all day and night? She also got some nerves to say that Hürrem is cruel when she has witnessed all the crimes that Valide Sultan and Mahidevran Sultan committed against Hürrem. They were the ones who made Hürrem whatever she has become right now. I'm like...gimme a break, Gulfem Hatun! Lol.
I feel the same way hun gulferm is a rat's tail as soon as hurrem kill the rat the next rat appears and gulferm attaches herself a pathetic piece of work
Couldn't have agreed with you more about Hatice! So wish she can leave the series already. Gulden is just a pathetic case. Asif the writers intentionally made her character appear as wanting to be relevant. Because that is what she is. Annoying really. Shah another ugly duckling, cannot figure her out or what her main goal is but they all three are just a pain
Why do they believe the girl was protecting Saldana against the two she killed. The girl was the only one with a weapon. They should have realized that in questioning everyone. Kind of dumb on their part.
Can we take a moment to apprentice Halith ergenc's acting? I mean he is not crying for Ibrahim neither is he talking about his pain to anyone. He is suffering alone. He is silent. He is doing everything, his daily works . He is attending councils , he is spending time with his family, talking to everyone. Trying to look like he is normal.Acting like nothing happened. But you can tell how his facial expressions are empty. It's like he is there but his mind is somewhere else. Hats off to the actor.
I just can't with Gulfem. She knew that Hatice plotted to kill Hurrem. She was in on it herself! And she had the nerve to go to Hurrem and blame her for Hatice being sent away and to say that she was innocent. Like the Sultan couldn't figure out who was behind this on his own? WTF? I think the Hurrem hatred has rotted all their brains.
@@Pashasmom1it firstly if you get caught just accept your punishment - so they made an attempted assassination on Hurrem they get punished but Hurrem is to blame lol Even till date wives get blamed by husband’s family for everything😂 People can’t accept that their own relatives make hard decisions against them.
It was a really bad idea to send Hatice to Manisa! That's where she met, and fell in love with Ibrahim! Every path in the gardens, every room would hold memories of him, her longing for him! Plus, she would be with people who depended on him, and were bonded to him! She would be unlikely to work through her grief in Manisa, with Mustafa and Mahidevran!
Why everyone blame Hurrem for everything even mustafa thinks alike for not going campaign.? His mother always spoils his mind everytime and she is the only reason for his death too
Of course ,she's sultans sister and he feels utterly guiltridden fo her. As sultan he doesn't have to explain his actions ,as her brother he should, not that it would do him anygood or safe hurrem
And Sultan is continuing his casual walks to the market, despite more and more ppl would start to suspect it could be him or at least someone very important in disguise. Some people are really observant and not that stupid to see whats going on. But of course it was like that in real world too, back in 1540 or whatever. For sure.
a sultan he can do everthing without explaining to any one , they must bow say yes only , he dont need to explain . he is the king , king can punish who ever he want
Wellshe did not inspire them very well,Only her son Selim who became The Sultan had enough decency in him .look at real history not believe something from a marvellous series but 90 per cent inaccurate
Am I the only one that thinks giving Shah Sultana Hatice’s palace is a good idea? Ibrahim committed treason, Hatice tried to have Hurrem murdered, and Shah’s family is in good standing 🤷🏻♀️ Seems appropriate to me. Send Hatice to the far away palace.
One thing I like about this character of Hurrem -- she never sulks nor throws bs tantrums like Hatice et al. She gets in full rage, yes ( I still think she is a lioness re the stars ; ) but not the manipulative immature sulkiing ( Hatice is a Pisces gone wrong, I'd say, Matrakci Aquarius, Sultan Libra, Shah sister scorpio, and so on ; )
How could Hurrem not see that Fariye was lying? Afife Hatun said that she didnt know the girl personally, but Fariye said that Afife Hatun brought her over from the Old Palace. And how hard would it be to ask people at the Old Palace to verify uer story?
The only women I wanna see dead in the series is gulfem,she is so annoying, hurrem never did anything to her,she always have been kind will gulfem,but gulfem wants to be hostile like who does she think she is she would be in the old palace by now
Gulfem is the only one still there because she never tried to hurt Hurrem directly by ordering anyone to kill her. She was just a side character the entire time
Omg this show should be called blame it on Hurrem!!!! Aren't they tired of shouting Hurrem when something goes wrong. I mean Ibrahim hung himself and so did every other character the Sultan executed even Mustafa. People like to say the Sultan was influenced by Hurrem when in reality her warned Ibrahim and Mustafa many time not to over step and they both did countless times. I learned from watching this show "if you want to keep you head/life never cast doubt" once Sulieman doubts you loyalty he will never trust you. And that's something Hurrem never did, she never saw anyone else on the throne other than Sultan Suleiman Khan. Ibrahim, Mahidevran, Valide, Hatice, Gulfem, Sah & Fatma all knew what would happen to the other Princes and insisted on supporting one instead of seeing who will grow up to be the most worthy. This goes against traditions especially when the Sultan chooses his successor not the order of birth. No one other than Hurrem and Mihrimah were loyal subjects in this Dynasty according to the show.
I’m not liking Nigar Haltin like she does s realize she caused her pain by sleeping with the married man Vizer and having it kid like she had to know she would get punished more and Pasha was forgiven she should have been left when she found out she was pregnant
It is gratifying to see Hurrem get what she has been dishing out to everyone else. Unfortunately, Hatice is not as successful at being evil as Hurrem is able to be.
A year earlier the sultan overheard ibrahim talking about y effendi as the sultan had just executed him but realised and heard that he was innocent so the sultan fir a year held on to this and it was exactly the same time of the year so ibraham signed his own fate got to big for his boots
How strange. I'm at 1:34. A few scenes earlier, Harice was sent to Manisa and now, all of a sudden, Shah Sultan tells Nigar that it's been a year since Hatice went to Manisa????
Hatiçe is the most psychic and irritating character among all. I thought Gülfem is smart but turns out she's blinded by Hatiçe, she has no rivalry with Hürrem still gets involved in all these treacherous plans. She can think a bit to understand who is actually wrong.
I like it ,hatice plotting rebellion against her brother ,the sultan ,while urging Mustafa to go his own way .high treason committed by hatice against the throne and pulling Mustafa into her games
I hate gulfem playing innocent. playing good .but she is a snakekeeper. she knows all the conspiracy .plots against hurrem but still playing innocent, she still had a guts to face hurrem about the exile of hatice .blame hurrem for it . in real life Suleiman executed gulfem hatun because of bribery
Hurrem most have been called the cheerful one for her personality this drama has taken the cheerfulness away from her so it must be so far from reality 😂
1:18:18 Bali Bey doesn’t want that promotion 😂 I understand why Süleyman wants him around, but he should remember Bali Bey doesn’t want to be around 🤷🏾♀️
In real like, Hurrem was considered to have a joyful personality. It would be nice if that happy charm would have been expressed throughout the show. She turned into a badass, don’t get me wrong, but on a personal level, most of her lines with the sultan is like she wants something out of him. It was also her joyful manner and that prolonged their relationship.
Maybe a separate people should have been involved in putting entertaining details. The way Sumbl Aga cracks you up with his mannerisms so should have hurrem. As badassed as she was, she was joyful too.
@@mariettahead9343 To me it's totally comic. I just imagine if the principal characters can come back and see the way they are depicted, they will instantly die again. Nothing in here ever happened. 😂😂😂
What is Gulfem talking about real faces, they should look at themselves first, and then accuse others. Hatice should’ve seeked psychiatric help in those days,
All of the characters here againts hurrem are fools and stupids.. how could they think sulieman who is the magnificent has no brain at all? They blame hurrem every sultan’s decision.
So sad to live in constant worry if the sultan dies their own brother may take ur children's lives who are her brothers and competitors for the throne! Sometimes it's better to live a simple life Too much money and power is just destructive
It's impossible to pick a side now, amazing show! The Sultan could've taken Ibrahims' titles & power, he didn't have to kill him, he'll never get over it. Besides, it's partly his fault to give so much power to one person, everyone will take to this differently, he should've known better, Ibrahim wasn't born or raised to be a king, he was a simple man and so much can drive anyone to greed and arrogance. I think the final straw was the letter and what Ibrahim said about the lion and the stick was hinting towards his relationship with Prince Mustafa and the future of the kingdom. Hence, the Sultan had him killed.
Mustafa, Mahedevrin as well as Hatice were responsible for Mustafa's demise. He let Mahedevrin and Hatice fill his mind with all things against him or that he thought unfair were Hurrem's doing. My goodness, if a mosquito bit him then Hurrem was somehow behind it.
HI, I am SHOSSHO LOCCCO. I have more than 15 alt accounts and every week I take Hurrem’s fans names. Don’t take me serious; I am JOKING, I havs personality disorder and TouretteSyndrome. I only want attentlon.
Hi I am SHOSSHOLOCCOO same MarissaKass, same StacyOliver, GünesÇelik, AyşeNur. Don’t listen tome and tomy accounts. I amcrying evreyday. I know Hurrem was best sultana, best mother and she loved Sulyman the most. I am her biggest fan!
Who else loves Sumbul’s little noises he makes when he talks! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 the best!
You 👿 lol sumbul is my favorite ❤❤
@@lorisuddath1704 the series have many great actors but sumbul is actually the best one among them, the sultan and Hurrem are a close second
Sounds like a squeaky ballon lol
Hahhahaahah😂 I like when he says : Ouiiiiiiiiiiiii.... 😅
He's funny for sure
When Hurrem told Nigar, once one betrays always betray, she was so right!
Lol. Nigar never betrayed Hurrem it was all her assumptions and arrogance.
@@2012aster what, did you watch the series at all?
@@2012aster Nigar betrayed Hurrem once she started giving him her secrets, when they poisoned Isabella and tried to pin it on hurrem. Nigar lost her mind when she started dealing with Ibrahim and further lost her mind when she teamed up with Hatice. She should've stayed loyal, no excuses for her nor lies!!!!!
Takes one to know one.
@@2012asterNiger even betray Gul aga who loved her, she betrayed hatice sultan, matrachi etc
I never saw any actress whos actung is beyond like hurrem. she really gives justice to this role.
Ella es el alma de esta serie . Es maravillosa sin ella ya no es lo mismo . Meryem Uzerli ( Hurrem ) es una actriz y modelo de primera hoy está un poco diferente pero bellísima igual .
Yes. She is very good at being evil.
@@carolradovich7906 she isn't that at all, Carol. She is excellent because she is showing her dignity and humanity in an impossible position, very often, as her Choice. The others act out of ignorance and the wish to harm, Ibrahim being the first, Mahi out of utter ignorance and lack of education Hatice also lacking in education and free owning her acts --remember that she was sold off to some old man as her first sexual contact by the Dynasty; she doesn't care a fig for the Dynasty..Hurrem, however acts in real thought for the dynasty she has become the queen of, looking out for the others where she can.
Hurrem’s acting is different from other Turkish actors. Her eyes her face speaks
Bali Bey is still handsome. People don't age in this show !😀
Yep 😂
So is sulaiman ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I guess Mihrimah will fall in love with my ex boyfriend Bali Bey. Hahahahahahahhahah😂
they just grow taller.
But I worry for Bali Bey now that Suleiman is looking for a rebound bromance best friend😅
Mustafa was so quick to blame Hurrem, but it was to protect him from assassination. In every religion pride always is an issue. They blame Hurrem but Hatice Malidveran was the blame for Mustafas demise.😢😢
Mustafa already went on a campaign and is governing a province. His younger brothers still need battle experience. He told Mehmet to be patient about going to a province, yet he's throwing a tantrum when the Sultan wants him to stay out of this campaign and can't think that he has any other reason than Hurrem said so. And of course, his dumb mother and auntie are there to fuel the flames.
interesting ( true) Queen ; ) It was about coming from ignorance and accepting that as "wisdom, bliss or love" none of which is true. The opposite. Separation ( which gives victim mode ) as "solution" ( not, the opposite of choosing where to focus one' energies, the real procedure...) is always deadly. Because based on courting death, instead of owning and loving life. The religions that espouse that -- like the three bible-torah-quran brothers, whom I now call sectes, because a reiigion is about teaching people their diviniy and the reponsability of Choices that goes wiih that beautiful love from Source in action -- are all based on forcing separation as something real on their victims...instead of owning that we are all of one material, Source materialized, extensions of Source...and that it matters what we do, truly. These people think that it doesn't "really" matter what they choose to do. Hürrem owns that it does, why, I would say, she created her lifepartner, her reflection ; ) as first the Artist, and then the Sultan, Ruler of the world ; ) Again, Mirimah should really have been the Choice to groom for the next person to be on the throne.
It is irritating to see gulfem talking abt,"" being cruel..being innocent( hatice)... preaching abt conscience 😡
She knew exactly abt all the cruelty hurrem was subjected to by suleiman sisters,mother& mahidevran since gulfem was also a part of all those things 😎but still has the audacity to come n blame hurrem 😡
Entitled useless dinasty women for you
Gulfem is just wanders of palace now she is acting like Mahidevran. No wonder because in the latest part when hurrem died she still hoping that Sulieman will be her. But sad to say Sulieman said( my life never exist without hurrem) such a pity to Gulfem
Hatice is nevrotic, Gulfen a psichopath!
Gulfem is a sitter on fences ,waiting for the winning side to emerge.
@@jeancandiasan5907 true
Hurrem knows how to teach her growing children rather than fill hatred in their hearts and crying over nothing like Mahidevaran
But all of hurrem children were aware of her evil place and at times they called her out for her wickedness so dont say she teached anything bettr to her children
@Lynx Uzumakiシ beyazid and even mirhima taunted her...also when nurbanu poisnd beyazid salim justified nurbanu act by saying "valida she did nuthing wronge even you did many things in past to servive" i don't think hurrem children had manners
@Lynx Uzumakiシ Hurrem was the reason for Mustafa death, and she knew it and so her children. Cihangir loved and hated his mother and father over his most beloved brother, Mustafa, because he knew she was the cause of it. I would have hated my parents, too, to be honest. Being honest to with your mother about her evil deeds, doesn't mean they had no manners. They just point out what kind of a mother she was. The most evil of her children, it was Selim, and the most stupid was Mihrimah because she was part of Mustafa death when she stole his seal
@Lynx Uzumakiシ He will exile Hurrem but not kill his brothers. In fact, we all know what Selim did to Bayezed and his children
She taught them to leave the room since they were very young so she could give her evil orders then listen if they were carried out.
Love how Hurrem made Bayezid understand
She always handled her children well . much better than Mahidevil who spoiled her son rotten
I'm surprised that Bayezid can go on campaign with his brother and father. Isn't he wa
I'm surprised that Bayezid can go on campaign with his father and brother. Isn't he way too young???
Wait what, that girl literally killed hurrem servant almost the same moment hurrem turned around, and that was like quarter a minute after she stopped assisting her in washing. Plus safiye stood there with a dagger raised, said something obvious that she came to kill hurrem...
Yet one of the most bright of sultanas thought that she came to her aid, and everyone did belive it..
Seriously. One of the biggest flaws in the entire show. Even bigger than hurrem taking ages to figure out who firuze was, and sultan not knowing the sign of enemy dynasty.
🤣exactly
That scene made Hurrem blind as a bat and blur as a squid
What a stupid idea right 😂
😂So true!
That's why Diana is so good at what she does :/
Gulfem was Suleiman's most barbaric woman, in Suleiman's eyes Gulfem was the only good concubine. But Suleiman doesn't know that Gulfem is always involved in crime with Hatice and Mahidevran
Poor Mustafa,,his mind was poisoned by his silly mother,, and the suspicions and hatred got him ,,his own mother killed him
More like his stupid aunt
Lol
His weak aunt had a hand in it as well. Poor Mustafa never had a chance.
Yup she did, plus his conniving aunties
😢😮
It is not logic when your husband cheated on you then you blame anyone else😂 hurrem is nothing to do with ibrahim and nigar affair. Hurrem just revealing the true lol
Suleiman never consulted hurrem about the campaign. The decision regarding leaving mustafa behind was because of him questioning Ibrahim execution. He wanted to teach him a lesson. Too bad mustafa fell for the stupid traps. He should've apologised and sorted things out rather than turning against the sultan.
When did he turned agains the sultan?
This is like the real world we r all living in. The ones who cannot mind their own business, keeps digging into other lives and makes it miserable.
Mustafa have always shown his father that he can challenge him all of this doubts led to his fall sadly
@@kripasamTrue.
hatice became so annoying. they all think hurrem cause all sultan's decisions. they are making prince mustafa to defy the sultan and revolt. hays...
Wasn't it always like this? Not only with Hatice. Valide Sultan got away with everything and what about Mahidevran? She beat Hurrem up, sent poison to the Sultans table and almost killed Hurrem and her unborn son. None of them ever had to bear consequenzes. But the sheer assumption of being involved with something, without proof, Hurrem got punished over and over.
They give Hurrem way too much credit. Sulieman makes his own decisions. But Hurrem gets all the credit.
Hurrem's decisions: putting her own intelligent and loyal people on high positions to control all the government processes and build the future of her children
Suleiman's decisions: water used for washing dishes or clothes should not be used twice!
Sure: they couldn' t blame Süleyman, also they blamed Hürrem!
Like Nasuh Efendi - He blamed Nigar, because he not dare blame Ibrahim for the fornication!🤷
Without delay😂😂😂😂
@@2010m00nwalker 😂😂
Can I just say how tired I am of Hatice’s tantrums like girl not everything is abt you🙄
They really do be blaming hurrem for every lil thing that happens to them, even when she doesn't do anything.
I must agreed with Shah Sultan here, what are u even involved in this, Gulfem? She can just live peacefully in harem, since she dont have to fight for children or Sultan love.
One big mistake of suleiman was...he didnt explain the reasons for the execution of ibrahim to his sister,esp hatice and also to mustafa& mahi
That is why they thought ibrahim was innocent 😎
And hatice refusing to go away from her palace has got nothing to do with ibrahim' s memories,his love or anything like that....but only to protect the ill gotten wealth of ibrahim which was being hidden under their palace of which hatice is privy 😎😎
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most men don't talk about their decisions especially if it is like that. IDK but I just noticed that from men. Unlike women who are talkative to talk about everything to anyone. I have also met a lot of male leaders and most of them do what the sultan did. IDK why they are like that. They don't care if they would be blamed as long as they know they did the right thing, they won't care what people say behind their back. They suffer in silence.
Because Imbrahim wants to die as a friend as a brother and as a companion of the Sultan that's why Suleyman d'dnt reveal the truth about Ibrahim's execution...
As sultan says ,he doesn't have to explain himself to anybody ,including them .hatice knows why ,she's not stupid .sultan is having the hardest time explaining to his nearest and dearest that his justice ,quiet rightly too includes his family ,especially his family since they like everyone else are also his subjects ,he goes to great pains to make this plain to his family .all the time ,I might add but ,I believe that they are all incapable of understanding that ,or ,if one ore two do they are excempt as his. Family and his sister's spouses
@@mariettahead9343 I agree with you. He is the one who silently fights the agonies in and outside the palace...
It's craaaazy how Hurrem will be blamed for every little thing that happens. And she's always presented as a demon, as if those women are good people and were not the first ones to start evil plotting. She's just a much better player when she's challenged. And when it came to Mustafa, she practically didn't even have to do anything besides creating a doubt. Hadice and Mahidevran's obsession turned this doubt into certainty.
Exactly
They cannot accept that she was smarter than them…
Exactly because the their who gets caught is the one that goes to jail lol
10 people yet not smart enough
I'm getting tired of everyone blaming hurrem, hatice is so weak on all levels...
Looking at this critically, no one is innocent. However, I cannot tolerate the murder plots. Too many lower class servants get killed when they are not involved. Those girls washing Hurrem's hair and the guard were killed because they were in the way. It's fundamentally unjust what both sides are doing.
Gülfem gets dumber with every episode.
*Mustafa sneezes*
Mahidevran : its Hurrems conspiracy
As is everything else that's wrong in their lives.l.o.l.
LOL İM DEAD NOW
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😂😂😂😂😂
If someone farted..
Oh Hurram did it!
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1:26:03 everyone’s literally overestimating Hurrem they hold her responsible for every little thing
Literally because she wanted to know every step of every one. Also she did a lot of bad things
One woman i despice the most is gulfem 😎she stuch herself first with valide,then hatice,mahidevran& sha huban only to live a lavish life in the palace 😎to please those ppl she included herself in their every plot,scheme& crime against hurrem 😎she was a woman with no dignity nor conscience 😎
Finally when everyone was gone,shamelessly she stuck withhurrem for a royal life 😎but still tried to kill suleiman himself 😎😎
We see some ppl like hercharacter who would do anything and change colours just for a comfortable rich life
Gulfem is a shame for all the wommen 😎
If only Nigar tell the truth about her affair to Ibrahim but Nigar is simply Selfish she only thinks about herself
Yes
@@nenitaabaya9970 You all justifies all evil deeds of Hurrem, the killings etc because of her love to Suleiman, and Nigar is not allowed to make a mistake for his love to Ibrahim? Lol. And what if Nigar had told Hurrem about their affair, Hurrem will still do the same, use her against Ibrahim because her only big time goal is to kick out Ibrahim. She does not care about anyone at all.
Nigar is nothing but a stupid woman that think she's clever enough.Without dignity,shameless loving others husband and proudly having baby through her sins.
I know that is just a fictional drama but...I'd like to way this - Hatice thinks the world must revolve around her. This character has been so irritating to me ever since so that I would just skip her scenes most of the time. She is so irrational and selfish...all she thinks about is herself. How I wish that she would be gone for the rest of the eposides and would never show up ever again. She is really getting on my nerves. Lol. Gulfem is also something else...how could she even sit around with Hatice's whining and complaints all day and night? She also got some nerves to say that Hürrem is cruel when she has witnessed all the crimes that Valide Sultan and Mahidevran Sultan committed against Hürrem. They were the ones who made Hürrem whatever she has become right now. I'm like...gimme a break, Gulfem Hatun! Lol.
She is best actress in the show she plays her character very well
She is the least intelligent of all the sultanas. Gulfem ...they really could have given her more character
I think in this drama she got some kind of mental issue.
I feel the same way hun gulferm is a rat's tail as soon as hurrem kill the rat the next rat appears and gulferm attaches herself a pathetic piece of work
Couldn't have agreed with you more about Hatice! So wish she can leave the series already. Gulden is just a pathetic case. Asif the writers intentionally made her character appear as wanting to be relevant. Because that is what she is. Annoying really. Shah another ugly duckling, cannot figure her out or what her main goal is but they all three are just a pain
Even Mustafa blames hurrem. He takes after his cowardly mother.
No one is allowed to do that to a dynasty member, especially to haseki sultan
Why do they believe the girl was protecting Saldana against the two she killed. The girl was the only one with a weapon. They should have realized that in questioning everyone. Kind of dumb on their part.
Can we take a moment to apprentice Halith ergenc's acting? I mean he is not crying for Ibrahim neither is he talking about his pain to anyone. He is suffering alone. He is silent. He is doing everything, his daily works . He is attending councils , he is spending time with his family, talking to everyone. Trying to look like he is normal.Acting like nothing happened. But you can tell how his facial expressions are empty. It's like he is there but his mind is somewhere else. Hats off to the actor.
I love the part where Hattice blames Hurrem for the exile . these wicked sisters dont feel they should be prevented from doing anything they want to .
Exile? You make me curious.
Oh, but they do get Hurrem exiled for a while. Suleiman orders it himself. Watch and wait.
I just can't with Gulfem. She knew that Hatice plotted to kill Hurrem. She was in on it herself! And she had the nerve to go to Hurrem and blame her for Hatice being sent away and to say that she was innocent. Like the Sultan couldn't figure out who was behind this on his own? WTF? I think the Hurrem hatred has rotted all their brains.
@@Pashasmom1it firstly if you get caught just accept your punishment - so they made an attempted assassination on Hurrem they get punished but Hurrem is to blame lol
Even till date wives get blamed by husband’s family for everything😂
People can’t accept that their own relatives make hard decisions against them.
It was a really bad idea to send Hatice to Manisa! That's where she met, and fell in love with Ibrahim! Every path in the gardens, every room would hold memories of him, her longing for him! Plus, she would be with people who depended on him, and were bonded to him! She would be unlikely to work through her grief in Manisa, with Mustafa and Mahidevran!
Absolutely agree ,that was my thought to .koinya would have been nice for her
Hurrem:How can you hit your older brother?!
Mean while Selim executing Beyazid and his sons in future.
This is just the beginning of their fighting unfortunately
Why everyone blame Hurrem for everything even mustafa thinks alike for not going campaign.? His mother always spoils his mind everytime and she is the only reason for his death too
Has anyone noticed that Mahideveran is wearing the green and brown gown which is worn by Mihirimah in another episode
Have you seen the turquoise and green dress? Hurrem,Hatice & Mahidevran wore that same dress😂
One thing is not fair the sultan never explain the execution...
He's the Sultan, he doesn't explain himself to anyone.
it would have been much better if he did let it be known why Ibrahim was executed.
Bali Bey & Nasuh Effendi, the 2 most likeable characters in this series.
In the history, Hurrem is a powerful figure and not somebody whos this siblings got easily insulted
So Hatige confirms that she wanted to kill Hurrem and she gets nothing ? Wow
Just bcoz she's his sister Suleyman simply sent her away
Of course ,she's sultans sister and he feels utterly guiltridden fo her. As sultan he doesn't have to explain his actions ,as her brother he should, not that it would do him anygood or safe hurrem
Normally in real life , he would end her but nvm
It's not allowed, hurrem sultan is dynasty member, don't trust series
In that case she is a Dynasty member!
The smile n laugh hurrem n sumbul makes on seeing sha huban on top... That's so natural... N so funny... 😅
The neckline of sha sultana 19:20 makes her more like witch 😄😃
And Sultan is continuing his casual walks to the market, despite more and more ppl would start to suspect it could be him or at least someone very important in disguise. Some people are really observant and not that stupid to see whats going on. But of course it was like that in real world too, back in 1540 or whatever. For sure.
Mahidevran shouldn't have been so strict with Yahya Effendi💔 he is already heart broken
Neither Mahidevran or Hurrem cared about their love, but they both knew that Suleiman allowed Hatice and Ibrahim to merry.
@@JefimijaStosic funny thing hurrem forgot she was a slave and now sees yahya as not good enough for her daughter
@Trading b Darija yes
@@asyaluay5174 of course cause she thinks she is the everything and no one can be compared to her 🙄
Hurrem should not have stop her daughter from loving yahiya at first place
Big mistake sulaiman was..never explain why ibrahim excutetion
frrr
a sultan he can do everthing without explaining to any one , they must bow say yes only , he dont need to explain . he is the king , king can punish who ever he want
I love How Hurrem Inspires Her Sons🤩
Wellshe did not inspire them very well,Only her son Selim who became The Sultan had enough decency in him .look at real history not believe something from a marvellous series but 90 per cent inaccurate
I love how she explained to her son that he was needed there to protect her and his sister.
I miss Ibrahim 🙄 it's not the same without him !! What a character 👏👏👏
So do i...i really miss him❤
I don't know how i continue the series without him he was an essential
I agree. He was a fascinating character!
I'm delighted he's off set; it was hard to watch or listen to him, as the character was so deeply abusive.
I love how hurrem explained to bayezid 💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖
Am I the only one that thinks giving Shah Sultana Hatice’s palace is a good idea? Ibrahim committed treason, Hatice tried to have Hurrem murdered, and Shah’s family is in good standing 🤷🏻♀️ Seems appropriate to me. Send Hatice to the far away palace.
One thing I like about this character of Hurrem -- she never sulks nor throws bs tantrums like Hatice et al. She gets in full rage, yes ( I still think she is a lioness re the stars ; ) but not the manipulative immature sulkiing ( Hatice is a Pisces gone wrong, I'd say, Matrakci Aquarius, Sultan Libra, Shah sister scorpio, and so on ; )
Great comment with insight 😅👍
Sultan's sisters, mother, even Ibrahim blamed Hurrem for everything. It's as if she was their god. Suleyman can't get no credit from any of them.
How could Hurrem not see that Fariye was lying? Afife Hatun said that she didnt know the girl personally, but Fariye said that Afife Hatun brought her over from the Old Palace. And how hard would it be to ask people at the Old Palace to verify uer story?
Having English subtitles but another language subtitles over it does not work. It is hard to follow the story at this point.
Hatice is insane
The only pure people in whole sereis are mehmet baki bey and chihangir
Oh no there is a frog that got crushed my a rock
Everyone in the harem: OMG Its Hurrem’s fault😮
The only women I wanna see dead in the series is gulfem,she is so annoying, hurrem never did anything to her,she always have been kind will gulfem,but gulfem wants to be hostile like who does she think she is she would be in the old palace by now
😂 true!
Gulfem is the only one still there because she never tried to hurt Hurrem directly by ordering anyone to kill her. She was just a side character the entire time
Omg this show should be called blame it on Hurrem!!!! Aren't they tired of shouting Hurrem when something goes wrong. I mean Ibrahim hung himself and so did every other character the Sultan executed even Mustafa. People like to say the Sultan was influenced by Hurrem when in reality her warned Ibrahim and Mustafa many time not to over step and they both did countless times. I learned from watching this show "if you want to keep you head/life never cast doubt" once Sulieman doubts you loyalty he will never trust you. And that's something Hurrem never did, she never saw anyone else on the throne other than Sultan Suleiman Khan. Ibrahim, Mahidevran, Valide, Hatice, Gulfem, Sah & Fatma all knew what would happen to the other Princes and insisted on supporting one instead of seeing who will grow up to be the most worthy. This goes against traditions especially when the Sultan chooses his successor not the order of birth. No one other than Hurrem and Mihrimah were loyal subjects in this Dynasty according to the show.
I’m not liking Nigar Haltin like she does s realize she caused her pain by sleeping with the married man Vizer and having it kid like she had to know she would get punished more and Pasha was forgiven she should have been left when she found out she was pregnant
The greatest gift mahidevran gave hurrem is fariya
Did she side on Hurrem afterwards?
It is gratifying to see Hurrem get what she has been dishing out to everyone else. Unfortunately, Hatice is not as successful at being evil as Hurrem is able to be.
Ibrahim signed his own death , stop blaming Hurrem
A year earlier the sultan overheard ibrahim talking about y effendi as the sultan had just executed him but realised and heard that he was innocent so the sultan fir a year held on to this and it was exactly the same time of the year so ibraham signed his own fate got to big for his boots
How strange. I'm at 1:34. A few scenes earlier, Harice was sent to Manisa and now, all of a sudden, Shah Sultan tells Nigar that it's been a year since Hatice went to Manisa????
Yes- some poor writing there, a glitch
Didn't you see the seasons change to fast forward? 😂😂😂
Hatice will never quit of going after hurrem she will continue to try to kill hurrem until she succeededs
Actually until she herself died... Hurrem came back even stronger 💪
The witches 🧙♀️ hatice, sha huban, mahi and the dog face guffem the pet of hatice 😅
Exactly my thoughts
I don't like gulfem😖
I would say that to hurrem. The only ugly witch that existed
Learn to separate the actress from the role, that’s actually offensive…
And hurrem the wild beast pet of sulaiman 🤣
Hatiçe is the most psychic and irritating character among all. I thought Gülfem is smart but turns out she's blinded by Hatiçe, she has no rivalry with Hürrem still gets involved in all these treacherous plans. She can think a bit to understand who is actually wrong.
I like it ,hatice plotting rebellion against her brother ,the sultan ,while urging Mustafa to go his own way .high treason committed by hatice against the throne and pulling Mustafa into her games
And yet nothing was done by the Sultan!
@@bobbisokhey3670 agreed
Hurrem tried to poison and kill Mustafa, and is that ok with you?
Jesus they blame hurrem for a bird sitting on their heads lol
Mahidevran gets on my nerves....not too brite!
no wonder Suleyman droped her after he saw Hurrem the queen, she is sooo beautiful and smart.
I hate gulfem playing innocent. playing good .but she is a snakekeeper. she knows all the conspiracy .plots against hurrem but still playing innocent, she still had a guts to face hurrem about the exile of hatice .blame hurrem for it . in real life Suleiman executed gulfem hatun because of bribery
Oh really! Thanks for sharing some history
She deserve it.She support Hatice and Mahidevran.
These women set son against father and blame the sultans wife ..shaking my head
My goodness, isn't its clear in sight of Hurrem that Diana is the killer😅😅??
Hatice and Mahidevran are just bullying Mustafa 🤧
Hurrem most have been called the cheerful one for her personality this drama has taken the cheerfulness away from her so it must be so far from reality 😂
1:18:18 Bali Bey doesn’t want that promotion 😂 I understand why Süleyman wants him around, but he should remember Bali Bey doesn’t want to be around 🤷🏾♀️
Sultana huban and her family looks like vampire 😂
4:25 hurrem is really that strong.
In real like, Hurrem was considered to have a joyful personality. It would be nice if that happy charm would have been expressed throughout the show. She turned into a badass, don’t get me wrong, but on a personal level, most of her lines with the sultan is like she wants something out of him. It was also her joyful manner and that prolonged their relationship.
Maybe a separate people should have been involved in putting entertaining details. The way Sumbl Aga cracks you up with his mannerisms so should have hurrem. As badassed as she was, she was joyful too.
After watching some of this series, this series looks like comedic for me.
Agree
In part it is
@@mariettahead9343 To me it's totally comic. I just imagine if the principal characters can come back and see the way they are depicted, they will instantly die again. Nothing in here ever happened. 😂😂😂
Yep or a farce ,truly
Anything that happens, they end up blaming Hurrem. Such fools!!! 🤣
Why do I feel like rustem pasha is into hurrem....the way he looks at her....
Because they were couple when this series being made 🤏
What is Gulfem talking about real faces, they should look at themselves first, and then accuse others.
Hatice should’ve seeked psychiatric help in those days,
All of the characters here againts hurrem are fools and stupids.. how could they think sulieman who is the magnificent has no brain at all? They blame hurrem every sultan’s decision.
well obviously the Sultan kept Mustafa back last minute to not risk the heir to the throne, but, he is too stupid to know that
Exactly. There was just an attempt on his life so he wanted to make sure Mustafa was safe.... insurance!
It's getting rather absurd ,now it's hurrems fault that the spoilt brat has to stay in Manisa
For heavenssake ALL MADE UP Ibrahim hardly knew Hattice would rarely see her let alone know her . He was Not married to Hattice .
Mahidevran and Hatice being poor Mustafa’s downfall with their stupidity and anger 🤦🏻♀️
Sultana Sah is beautiful
Yes but that bottom lip of hers reveals a real stubborn personality
Yes she is the prettiest of the sisters.
Thanks to this soap! I finally know the reason for global warming…it‘s hurrems fault 😅
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Nyahaha😂😂
Hatice is a cry baby who can't take accountability for the things she has done
Hatice is mad, she openly encourages Mustafa to rebellion. itțs nuts!
So sad to live in constant worry if the sultan dies their own brother may take ur children's lives who are her brothers and competitors for the throne! Sometimes it's better to live a simple life
Too much money and power is just destructive
It's impossible to pick a side now, amazing show! The Sultan could've taken Ibrahims' titles & power, he didn't have to kill him, he'll never get over it. Besides, it's partly his fault to give so much power to one person, everyone will take to this differently, he should've known better, Ibrahim wasn't born or raised to be a king, he was a simple man and so much can drive anyone to greed and arrogance. I think the final straw was the letter and what Ibrahim said about the lion and the stick was hinting towards his relationship with Prince Mustafa and the future of the kingdom. Hence, the Sultan had him killed.
He knew that Ibrahim would be a big problem and may challenge the throne using Mustafa - the trust was lost.
Ibrahim was set up by the Sultan. The Sultan seemed jealous of Ibrahim.
I was goneee when she gave her servant the food I was like yeah she better watch out
Bali Bey ....the most handsome ..... Especially with his hat on.
He watched around for potential assassins like a hawk at that market!
In real life, hatices life would end here
Its bcz of shah huban hatice mahi devran mustafa lost his life.. theres disgusting plots are responsible for everything
Mustafa, Mahedevrin as well as Hatice were responsible for Mustafa's demise. He let Mahedevrin and Hatice fill his mind with all things against him or that he thought unfair were Hurrem's doing. My goodness, if a mosquito bit him then Hurrem was somehow behind it.
I love Mehmed sheyxzoda❤
Shah wears her two-faceness very well!
Love this ep
Showing ibrahims shadow which never was away from soliman
The obressor was never safe and who o were obressed comes like shadow
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Don’t take me serious; I am JOKING, I havs personality disorder and TouretteSyndrome. I only want attentlon.
lbrahim whooooo? Hahahahaa
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I know Hurrem was best sultana, best mother and she loved Sulyman the most. I am her biggest fan!
I was JOKING. I know lbrahim is liiar. He never spoke truth, always lied. He neverKnew friendship or loyallty. Karmaaa is coming for him.