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This judge failed miserably at handing out justice by delivering a sentence proportionate to the crime, instead deciding that it's one of the times where his job is to set an example. Like holy shit son, people get less severe punishments for rape.
Its garishments of wages. That isnt a criminal action its a civil action. Its limited to 25% of wages for obvious reasons. To prevent stuff like this some states like Texas have prohibited wage garishment.
I remember someone being called insane and witch hunted for suggesting that murderers pay retributions to their victim's families (especially if they were a parent), but apparently it's justified if it's to a big corp? This world is insane
@@C7y323 Maybe they didn't clarify that said pay should only apply if the murder actually classifies as "murder" and not legitimate self defense or killing someone to save another life.
Wasn't this guy a part of a multi-million dollar criminal organization that sold ransomware to naive gamers so they could steal from them. He was their spokesperson, recruited resellers, and helped resellers keep setting up new websites every time law enforcement shut any of them down. For 7 years with just this particular operation and for at least 8 years prior to that with a different group. So it's not like he was just a small part time hacker who didn't know better he also received multiple warnings from Nintendo themselves about this and kept on going
I wish we would see these kind of repercussions with people in power. It’s only those who aren’t wealthy that actually face repercussions, and often far worse than is deserved.
It will. Just like american drones just made more terrorists. Nintendo doesnt get it. They just want to exert their power over others and create fear of fking with them. Just like any out of touch power hungry corporation or government. They'll fall just like anyone else with time. No country, or company, can last forever. They have made so many terrible decisions. This is just...egregious punishment that doesnt fit the crime. They could have been smart enough to hire the guy. If he's good enough to break their hardware, you can be damn sure he's good enough to protect it.
We only need common cybernetic implants and full dive VR for this time line to be pure cyberpunk. We already have the "corporations running the world" part covered.
considering everything this dude and his group was responsible for in the 3ds and switch homebrew community I do not feel bad for him. stealing code adding remote bricking code selling other people's work etc
And there's a kicker. The severity of punishment indicates one of the worst crimes is hurting a corporation, not worse moral evils which only get a slap on the wrist. Which is messed up. As a disclaimer, I'm not saying companies shouldn't protect their properties. Just that the punishment should match the crime.
In Japan, this shit is just common. Their copyright law is as ancient as thr dinosaurs, and their enforcement is way tighter here than in America. There's a law that could land you two years in prison for LINKING PIRATE SITES FOR MANGAS. They don't fuck around with the crackdowns either. They worked together with the ISPs to track down your address and your activities, and can immediately send the police for accessing pirate sites. There's a person who downloaded ROMs at a site, and the next day the police immediately showed up in front of his house. Add to the fact that they don't have "fair use" too, and you have a country that basically treated copyright as a criminal case rather than a civil one.
It’s disturbing that they’ll do all this for these crimes, yet look the other way for the insane about of SA that country has They’ll support the heck out of companies exploiting their workers and pushing them to suicide, and then go after the common man like THIS. Just insane
@@adamjamestattoos not really, to claim someone guilty you actually need to have enough proof of that, exceptions do exist depending on both parties, like, a mega corporation vs a random person. In japan its the other way around, specially because of how corrupt the legal system there is, i wont say that it doesnt really matter who you are, because it does, if you are a foreign and get into the smallest of legal troubles, you are fucked, same reason why scamming is so prevalent there, in most cases its best to just pay the scammer than for them to get you into court, because of how you, the defendant, have to prove you are not guilty, and how the system itself will try all they can to make sure you dont.
yeah for selling a product someone else made for a few hundred dollars a month. so the dude probably made a few thousand dollars and now he "owes" 14 million to a multi billion dollar company...
Corporate slavery. Sets a precedent that you can be enslaved by a corporation if you commit any crime against one. Good thing corporations cant i fluence laws through bribery…i mean lobbying. Because then there would be entities setting the laws, pursuing litigation against you with far more money if you happen to break one of their laws and then owning a non negligible amount of all wealth you will earn in your life.
@@NGEvangeliman I don't think it's about how much he made but rather how much he caused Nintendo to lose. Like if he sold a device to someone for $100 and that person freely downloaded $1000 worth of games, do you think Nintendo cares more about the $100 he made, or the $1000 they lost?
That guys life is basically ruined. He did his time and a fine is OK. However 10 million dollars to an every day Joe is obscene for a non violent crime. They shouldn't have a right to destroy the rest of his life.
Plus simply having a criminal record will greatly hinder his chances of getting a decent paying job. Having to give up a quarter of low paying job may very well land him unable to pay bills or feed himself properly.
@@joshuajefferson3504 he didn't hack the company... he MADE physical mods for the switch console, so you could load homebrew, (and games you downloaded off the internet.) the term "hack" here refers to modifying the console or software in any way.
Nintendo is like the perfect example of, You either die a hero, or live long enough to become the villan. They saved gaming in the 80s. Then they slowly morphed into a company that makes Apple seem tolerable by comparison. F nintendo.
@@HeartInLight surprising how everyone wants EA to shut down despite Nintendo making them look like a kid in comparison. The sad part about companies is that the moment they become bad it's often too late to stop them.
@Crimsomdragoont rue, they convict 99.9 percent of the time it's guilty until proven innocent(or slip the judge a few million yen lol) and under enforce SA laws
@@cody3335I mean there is a committing a crime and then just enforcing slave labor. While I no way support piracy of any product, and Nintendo has the legal right to sue, I also don't endorse slave labor for something that should have just gotten this guy a jail sentence
Just a few million dollar fines the average joe doesn't understand is just a dollar to these companies. Governments can't punish corporations too severely otherwise they'll see that it's cheaper to leave and so more pain for the government. Corporations hold all leverage against Governments. China is willing to destroy it's economy to send a message to Billionaires. Not something the West will do.
@@ihavenonameforyou1 you had corporations that went debt-ridden yet can just wipe off their debts. i.e. Credit Suisse. But this is not the case for individuals.
This guy's nearing retirement age, and they decided to give him a punishment that'll last until his final breath. I don't know if this speaks to the justice system's corruption or Nintendo's.
Nintendo shoulda not be dumb. And hired the man to design ways to prevent such things to their hardware. If he's smart enough to do it, he's smart enough to design protections against it. But Nintendo...is not known for being smart. They're notorious for hating their own fans, and shitting on everybody who steps out of line with them. F nintendo.
Y'all talking in circles. Said it yourself. Guy is almost expired. At most he's gonna couch up $20k by the time he's dusted. Made way more fking over Nintendo for years. Probably should have off-shored some of it.
We live in a society where you can get away with less punishment for murder and rape than just making mods for videogames and making some small change on the side
@@DeadKraken they hold onto the sex offenders list for life. There's a lot of life-long issues with that. But I do agree we do live in a society with some skewed justice issues.
I feel like when the punishment is that severe, it would only encourage the Bowser dude to commit more crimes, since he may feel like he's got nothing left to lose.
Pffft at that point why not go after his collaborators? And then you realize how truly severe it is, that he can probably never work with anybody again when this is on his record.
@@NTB_Santoe you don't get it do you he can barely make money anymore desperate people do desperate things they probably made their biggest enemy for this
If he makes an honest living, I have to pay taxes plus 25% to Nintendo. he makes an dishonest living and nothing needs to be reported or paid back. which would he choose?
Anything. They have enough money and power to fight you in court forever. Even if they are in the wrong, us peons have to bow to their will, because we just don’t have the money to fight them.
Bro, this is what they do legally, if you knew what they do illegally it'd make your skin crawl, and they can get away with it too cause they have the money to. People have definitely died before because a corporation wanted them to.
You're right Yong, the extreme punishment DOES make me far more empathetic with the criminal. I wonder if he could get out of it by declaring bankruptcy? I feel like it ought to be illegal for a mega corporation to take 30% of anyones income for life
It doesn't for me. I could hardly care less about the guy. He knew that Nintendo was fiercely protective of their property and still committed the crime anyway. He only has himself to blame for getting greedy.
Yeah, at worst it should be a small percent of his wage after cost of living expenses. As it is, with a criminal record he'll probably be only earning around minimum wage, then taking 30% of that could quickly leave him unable to pay bills or feed himself properly. The man could be made homeless all because Nintendo thinks every pirated game is absolutely a lost full price purchase.
This is one of the most completely insane court rulings I've ever heard. At that point you either fake your own death or commit a real crime in retaliation.
@@Khaisz. That's relative. But he will never pay that $14 mil. Not sure where he lives but in America being homeless is literally the last thing you want. There are people that commit crimes just to go to prison so they don't starve and freeze on the street.
Bro, I just thought about this. He wasn't just used to send a message. He is potentially Team-Xecuter's literal scapegoat. He was a lower level employee that they potentially dropped all of the blame on. Think about that shit.
I don't think that teams going to give two shits about that hacker.... It will be more scary for the hackers if it was more of a higher-level hacker, but this guy's basically just a grunt in the overall organization.... Which makes setting him up as an example is even more stupid and waste of time.
The sad thing about this punishment is they only did it to hurt him, not get back whatever profit they lost. This man will never make up what he needs to pay it off with such a wage cut. This man will be lucky to even have a home.
You are pitying a hacker that had been selling bootleg gamea and isp from nintendo and not to mention his hacked wares are also known to be laced with spywares for profits. The dude had it coming even if i dont like nintendo
@@wongsetsuna this dude is just the spokesperson or the salesman for the shady company he works with. It's not like he's the one who code that malicious code and he only get around 300k-ish not millions like other people said iirc. It's the boss who should get the punishment not him. Even then, that punishment is already excessive even for the boss. Mind you, Nintendo don't even need the money. They probably just throw the check everytime he pays the fine.
@@wongsetsuna no game hacker has THIS punishment coming bro. You're weird asf, does every thief deserve to be homeless? Because this guy is definitely bound to be.
Nintendo is just another corrupt and greedy company. They'll gladly fuck us over without a care in the world, but will unleash on us if we even tried to do the same
Well, Nintendo clearly wanted it to be the former, that's why they went after this guy so hard, not for the money, just to send a message to other would-be hackers.
@@nick15684 They'll never stop hackers, because what makes this situation different from basic hacking is this dude legit stole actual money from Nintendo and even sold other peoples hacks for profit. Most hackers know better than to monetize their tools, because as long as you don't monetize them, you can do a damn good job of staying off Nintendo's radar, this guy got greedy and left a paper trail. This won't stop hackers, it will only make them smarter.
That's just downright devious lol, that's pocket change to Nintendo, I think its pretty obvious this is nintendo making an example and sending a message
Usually companies just send a cease-and-desist for this sort of thing since it wouldn't be financially worthwhile to pursue further charges. Generally people back off when they get one, or try to pursue a case in court otherwise. Given that this guy was making a profit off of his hacks, that's likely why Nintendo went for something harsher. I feel the punishment is too much, but at the same time, what did he expect to happen for making a profit off of pirating a company's products? Even doing so indirectly (e.g., Patreon) can be enough to be raked over the coals.
@@NetBattler its good to preserve old games not available anywhere, but doing it on recent games is just screwing over the developers that worked in the games
Funny thing is the CEO of Nintendo of America is named Doug Bowser. A hacker of Nintendo hardware is name Gary Bowser. Is anybody named Bowser not entangled with Nintendo out there somewhere or is these people's fate already determined?
In a weird way what Nintendo is actually telling Gary Bowser is that as punishment for doing crime, he is condemned to never make money again in his life unless it's from more crime. Real job? Nintendo take 30%. Steal again? Nintendo take 0%. Just gotta don't get caught this time. Really nice lesson 😅
@@Naruku2121 Yeah, but the solution for him is to stop trying to make money legally altogether. Which means Nintendo get 30% of nothing. "We don't care about our money as long as you are forced to be poor or be criminal" is the actual message they're sending.
@@Chromodar I will say, I did not think there was a law you can basically screw some one over like that. Let alone it can be enforced. Maybe he can get an appeal given how unfeasible it is to pay.
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It seems like Nintendo wants to hold him accountable for the full amount of damages caused by his team, but fully acknowledge he only had a small part to play. That definitely feels wrong.
Considering how Nintendo treated Russians maybe they can make said operations from Russia since they won't support Nintendo. Plus piracy does not lower profitability including what they did. I did not buy many Nintendo games and got then another way because of censorship and if there was no other way then I would still not buy them.
The whole team is being pursued for over $500M. His portion is $10M which is 2% of the total. So he was fined a relatively small amount for his "small part".
These types of settlements are the kind that create mass casualty incidents, Bowser was nearing retirement, now he's never going to be able to get a even remotely well paying job due to the jail time, and anything he CAN get is going to be garnished well below the poverty limit. I will not be surprised when he either commits himself to Hades or decides to strike out at those that completely ruined his life (regardless of the legality).
Good thing most of the western world is less insane than the USA about this sort of thing and he has citizenship elsewhere (if I didn't lose track of who was who).
Those who ruin his life are you really that unintelligent The dude ruined his own life ain't no one ruined his life Why you trying to make the guy like he's a victim He's not a victim by the sounds of it you sound like a type of person who thinks in today's society that crime is okay people like you disgust me no one screwed up his life or ruin his life but himself so let's get that straight you brainless fool
If it went to court, and based on the level of infraction, you bet they would. I've seen it happen, on a lower scale, to a brick and mortar store. They got hit with a pretty strong and stiff sentence and they hardly sold more than maybe 15 modded Xboxs with pirated software preloaded on it. If they profited on a level like Bowser's company here did, it would probably be similar. If Disney got a guilty verdict on someone for the same amount, with a typical judge following state law, expect to pay that for life.
@@kenetickups6146 Executing them is way more expensive lmao. So even if you don't care about human rights and just about money, you're wrong. And they don't actually lessen crime at all.
@@arcanefire7511 So they magically just commit crimes from beyond the grave? >way more expensive that's a problem with the system >human rights I care about justice for the victims, and yeah I care about people's rights, not parasites
Never has a motivation of spite been more strong than hearing about this. The dude went to jail and did his time, this is just petty at this point. I hope he goes by a different name and just completely wrecks the shit out of Nintendo without them finding out that the same guy
@@DigitalApex There does come a point where that's actually the least irrational course of action. ... Of course, most people either go that direction well before that point or never go that direction even when it should, but still.
any form of work can be considered slavery. companies own you and if you don't walk in the line you're fired and lose the money, not to mention all the tax and stuff you have to pay. we're slaves of the system, no matter which one.
Well maybe not make millions of dollars in the face of that Seriously people encouraging people to Pirate old Sega and Sony stuff all the time you can literally install apps on your PlayStation 3 and download games. To profit off of Nintendo games that are currently being sold? Stupid
12:10 - Just having a criminal record will make it almost impossible to get a job. But having ONE GUY in this multi-person company pay 20-30% of his waged forever is insane.
The criminal justice system has never been about "justice". It's not surprising at all that wronging a major corporation carries one of the harshest penalties.
@@YouAreStillNotablaze exactly. Which is why there is no legal grounds to ruin someone's life over it. Or at least, there shouldn't be. After all it's just video games. Yet that is exactly what happened.
It infurates me that if a big company proscutes a person they will get an insane sentence. But if its a normal person proscuting for a bigger crime they will get a better sentence just because they aren't a billion dollar company.
He's been at this for years I'm pretty sure he has lots of money stashed away stop trying to feel bad for this piece of garbage He's a criminal a thief and he got what was coming to him you play stupid games you win stupid prizes stop making the guy like some victim he destroyed his own life no one else did
Sucks to suck. You do dumb shit you deserve consequence. Fuck all of this leniency we show criminals in America. People need to learn that doing illegal shit is wrong and will fuck you if you do so otherwise crime rates will continue to rise as they have over the past few years.
@@nekki9228 Exactly, how in hell would any tech company pass on talented hackers that can help iron out the loop holes in their security. They are a good double edge sword.
That punishment feels way too severe imo, would be fun to know how much he actually profited overall from his activities, but it must be a far cry from $14.5m.
Reading Wikipedia's entry on Team-Xecuter, he was just their PR guy... PR as in "Public Relations". No way he'd earn $14.5m from that alone (even if he got a tiny cut from the profits).
Regardless of what he made, I wouldn't be surprised if he did well over 14.5m in damages. It's not like team Xecutor designed regular CFW, like Atmosphere. Xecutor designed their products with the sole aim of piracy.
@@HandlesL except there's a difference between being justly sentenced and being sentenced to a cruel and unusual punishment. I'd say being charged 20-30% of his paycheck for life in this economy should fall under the later, or do you like the idea that corpos can make a person permanently homeless for infractions that do pretty much no damage to them.
Sickening behavior from Nintendo. A non-violent victimless crime where the perpetrator willingly plead guilty and served his time without issue. And Nintendo still purposefully wants to ruin the rest of this man's life by making it far more stressful than it needs to be over a petty amount of money to them.
"Far more stressful than it needs to be" is wildly generous. I'm expecting that in the next year, he's gonna be in the news again... For a suicide or a mass shooting.
@@Hellraiser988 I've been reading a few of these comments and I'm so confused. You and everyone hating on Nintendo in this situation are acting like "Gary Bowser" is an innocent victim who was just playing Mario on his couch and got slapped with jail time and this sentence. If this dude wasn't trying to profit from piracy this never would have happened. You can talk all day about how the punishment isn't proportionate to the crime (Which is up for debate. Stealing IP property isn't a small thing) but at the end of the day, if he didn't commit the crime this never would have happened. It never would have went to court to see this guy punished. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time or pay the fine. It's not like Nintendo is going to take you or myself to court because we're playing super smash brothers.
Yes, that's exactly what it's about. 9/10 times a lawsuit is about sending a message more than anything else. Not unique to this situation. Do you really think Nintendo needs or wants that 10 million they'll never actually get from this guy? No, of course not. They're a multi-billion dollar company, that shit is chump change to them. It was never about the money, always about sending a message. This is about the worst outcome that could happen to the hacker in this situation, and Nintendo knows it, they wanna make sure every would-be hacker knows it from now till the end of time.
if i was that guy, i would just unalive myself in front of nintendo offices to send them my last message, then haunt the place as a poltergeist and delete source code when it was at 90% or something
Lol even if I was caught pirating and they give me a sentence like this, there is no way I'm doing any part of that 😂😂. Who tf they think they are? My life will definitely change that day. How it will change is the question but I guarantee they won't expect the outcome.
The real problem here is that these guys made a lot of money from their hacks. Most mod developers release their stuff for free specifically to avoid getting Nintendo's attention
@@Thund3rDrag0n12 ye but he's not alone in this and that amount is ridiculous for him to pay alone. Now that they can do this it's likely they will go much further as you know Nintendo is known for being an arse.
@@dingdong3335 Most likely the company in charge of the illicit piracy just used him as a scapegoat and told Nintendo to go for it and blast the dude out of the water in exchange for disclosure of information or protection of their own higher ups.
@@dingdong3335 Yep. It's not so much about the punishment itself (or that this is just Nintendo sending a message), it's about how this could set a dangerous precedent. All efforts to preserve video games, develop emulators and modifying systems to extend and/or augment them (especially when it's Nintendo's games and consoles involved) could become a massive risk. Nintendo has enough money that they could possibly make the mere act of preserving video games (even at a personal level on games they legally own a copy of), developing emulators (even if only to be used to play personal backups) and/or modifying systems (even if only for homebrew use) a federal crime worthy of harsh punishment.
Yeah, they always go on about how they wanna uphold their image as a family friendly company. Yeah a family friendly company who will haunt you for all eternity if you do shit like this. Remind me why we support these shitheads again?
So these guys were basically stealing from Nintendo and you guys call Nintendo scummy good to see how your morales are ass backwards but anyway things to hate on Nintendo meanwhile we let the others get away with the same actions
@@knowledgeseeker4116 "Um AKCTUALLY Nintendo is in the right because he stole money that they'll make back in a day, Nintendo is just a poor little indie company, you're just a dirty pirate hater. And yes I do believe that Nintendo has the right to brick your system even though you bought it for 300$ and can do whatever you want with it."
@theluminousone5883 It's silly to argue for Nintendo in a monetary sense, but that doesn't change the fact that what Bowser did is still illegal. Just because it doesn't hurt Nintendo all that much doesn't mean they should just sit back and let people make entire careers off of hacking their stuff
You see, I live in Brazil, I've saw politicians, mayors and even ex-presidents take tons of money from our public health and education systems and got less punishment than Gary Bowser. Brazil really need something with the same protective will that Nintendo has/
Worse. A year in prison is 12 months of being confined in a holding cell. That is entirely possible and tolerable for any common person you see on the street, they just need to wait it out. And that's not counting probation or getting out on good behavior. But paying even 1% of your salary to a company until the day you die? That's more money that should be for you and your savings gone after taxes.
Unless you're talking about a child, go ahead and give them a year in prison. Someone who chooses to steal something like a candy bar just because they want it, with absolutely no regard for the rights and feelings of its legal owner, is a piece of sh*t. F*ck them.
I know he did a no-no, but he served his sentence and a fine should've been enough. This sentence is just pure evil and I now feel less bad about pirating. Actually I lie, I never felt bad about that, but it does make me wonder why we even support these bastards in the first place??
Got a feeling this is gonna backfire hard on Nintendo. This looks like one of those instances where the internet or “hacker” or criminal groups group up.
Got to say I don't think even if all the hackers in the world teamed up they'd take a mega cooperation like nintendo down they just wouldn't have the funds to compete, that's if they would work together and not let greed come in their way don't think they care much about Gary bowser lol
@Adam SSJ I genuinely don't care about an aging criminal that got caught, charged, and convicted. He did this crap for several years and made solid money off his persistent criminal activity. Perhaps he should've gone to work on a corporate giant that isn't notorious for making examples
@@JDroo-me5uo there is such a thing as the punishment fitting the crime. Do I believe he should have served time? Yes. Do I believe he should have been fined? Sure. Do I think he should have been made into a scapegoat by being fined an absurd amount he could never hope to pay back for being a cog in a machine? Even if it was illegal? No. They made him into a spectacle in the hopes of being a deterrent. One that will ultimately amount to nothing because if a product exists, people will find ways to misappropriate it. If you think that's warranted then you can take your sociopath mindset somewhere else and let someone else tell you how just and right you are, because I'm not having it.
The headline should be "Nintendo legally enslaved man" Remember the criminal justice system is about serving corporations, which is why we need a new one
Personally I would go with "Nintendo kills a man, he just isn't dead yet" Maybe it's just my own depressive tendencies, but I'd bet money that guy commits suicide because like... What else are you supposed to do when doomed so thoroughly to financial ruin. To deliberately put someone in that position feels like an indirect murder.
@@mori6434 Would declaring bankruptcy be an option for him? From what I heard, it doesn't absolve you of having to pay court-ordered fines, though I'm not fully sure about the ramifications it could hold for his owed debt to Nintendo and financial stability in this particular case. Hopefully he manages to get back on his feet and turn his life around.
Nintendo definitely opened Pandora's Box. The lesson here is to stay in the gray and share without profit. As a community they can't attack everyone. They've tried once and even the court said that was a line that couldn't be crossed. So well see what happens in this game of cat n'mouse next.
Or a Pandora's Cube. Microsoft did a pretty strong thing, including an FBI raid for selling Modded Xboxs with preloaded games on them. This was back in 2004. Sure, their overall infractions were lower, but the sentence was of a similar level if you take into consideration the severity of profiteering. And yes, if done without profit, such wouldn't happen. As why Fansubs of Anime often place text in there stating, "Do not sell this" or something of the sort. (A rule Pandora's Cube also broke. They recorded other people's fansubs and sold those too.) I'm not outrightly condoning piracy here for anything, but it's been pretty common knowledge, for decades, that if you start a business to profit off it, you crossed a line you just don't cross.
I mean.....piracy has been a thing since old ages of 80s, most of SEA countries all selling pirated games since PS1 and GBA days lol. But yea maybe in recent years the rule updated for delevoped countries. Ppl still freely selling modded ps3, switch, etc on less developed countries where copyright law not well designed yet, even today,
Considering who got punished, it'll probably just embolden the smart hackers and just discourage the amateur hackers. Especially since they didn't hit a key member of the hacker group.
@@sakurayamazaki you remember their issues with Nintendo content on youtube and streaming? I do. they don't want you experiencing Nintendo anything without paying full price and the actual products never drop in price either.
@@sakurayamazaki Let me fix your quote for you: "They don't like mods and emulation... unless they're the ones using it." You may not be aware, but all of Nintendo's "Nintendo Switch Online Back Catalog" are run on Emulators. That's how they are able to update a lot of the old games and include Online Multiplayer Support for games that weren't designed for it. It's not that they reprogrammed the game to allow it, but rather they're using a ROM in an Emulator that, as the name suggests, emulates local multiplayer over the Internet. Also, all of those Micro Systems? You know, NES Classic and SNES Classic? Yeah... those are Emulators that run ROMS. So uh... Nintendo has made money off Emulation and continues to make money off Emulation every day with Nintendo Switch Online.
dude have you seen their headquarters in japan? 100% of their entire administrative staff are nothing but a bunch of 70 plus year olds. They come from a generation of japanese corporate predators, the same generation that created the work ethics that are taking the work force of japan to the total ruin and a unavoidable fall of the nation as a whole.
It sure seems that way. I don't know how much money they spent to get this verdict, but it couldn't have been cheap. Effectively, Nintendo will not even notice the monetary restitution on their revenue, while Gary will forever be bound by this chain of debt.
the only way out is is basically somehow banking that sum in Go Fund Me... Most people hardly come by with full salary - losing 25-30% wouldn't meet ends for many.
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- Bowser and the group he was a part of were actually profitting from selling hacks, they were asking for legal repercussions. But good lord does the punishment seem exessive, especially for Bowser who was a smaller part of the organization. If it's about sending a message though, well, Nintendo definitely did that.
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They gave that man a fate worst than death, paying child support for nintendo.
Mario lights his cigars with the man's stacks lol
@Skuash I always wonder why they never take that shit to congress, Wall St. or the homes of various CEOs. Just sayin'
20% is totally worth croaking LMAO
Which he only has himself to blame for, let's be honest.
@@makeitthrough_ Probably because of security, as random people are a lot more vulnerable on average than most rich people and/or politicians.
Holy shit dude. There's sending a lawsuit and punishing somebody, and then there's locking them in the dungeon and whipping them for life.
@@ramonandrajo6348 No it isn't. Two wrongs don't make a right.
@@ramonandrajo6348 Nintendo will find you and put you in one of those camps 💀
@@darkstorm2579 Pirating Nintendo games is not a 'wrong'
@@ramonandrajo6348 You wouldn't pirate a car
@@lif6737 you wouldn’t download a car 🚗
This judge failed miserably at handing out justice by delivering a sentence proportionate to the crime, instead deciding that it's one of the times where his job is to set an example.
Like holy shit son, people get less severe punishments for rape.
Stealing is worse then rape in our society lol
@@haunterdragon4580 No it not. Rape is unjustifiable, stealing can be.
Its garishments of wages. That isnt a criminal action its a civil action. Its limited to 25% of wages for obvious reasons. To prevent stuff like this some states like Texas have prohibited wage garishment.
@@haunterdragon4580 Yes. Because Rape has absolutely no consequences in our society. Do you think before you type?
@@matterking1 He's not talking about the moral implications of either crime. He's talking about how they're punished by our judicial system.
That's so insane, not even crimes like homicide get this kind of treatment
Whats worse. Basically having to pay double the amount of tax. Or 20 years in prison.
I remember someone being called insane and witch hunted for suggesting that murderers pay retributions to their victim's families (especially if they were a parent), but apparently it's justified if it's to a big corp? This world is insane
In which universe is death by electric chair any better to you dumdum
The patricians don’t care what the plebeians do to each other. You better not commit a crime against them though.
@@C7y323 Maybe they didn't clarify that said pay should only apply if the murder actually classifies as "murder" and not legitimate self defense or killing someone to save another life.
It’s crazy how these people get a worse punishment than actual corrupt corporations
Wasn't this guy a part of a multi-million dollar criminal organization that sold ransomware to naive gamers so they could steal from them. He was their spokesperson, recruited resellers, and helped resellers keep setting up new websites every time law enforcement shut any of them down. For 7 years with just this particular operation and for at least 8 years prior to that with a different group.
So it's not like he was just a small part time hacker who didn't know better he also received multiple warnings from Nintendo themselves about this and kept on going
@@4wheal After a couple decades of getting spat in the face... I'd throw the book at the spitter as well.
@@4wheal So they wanted a piece of the action?
@@4wheal tell me you not about that hacker lifestyle without telling me you not about it.
Well said. Also corrupt governments and politicians.
I wish we would see these kind of repercussions with people in power. It’s only those who aren’t wealthy that actually face repercussions, and often far worse than is deserved.
@@ichase8555do you not have reading comprehension?
@@ichase8555 so it doesn't is what you're saying.
Dude, they've been hacking Nintendo systems for more than a decade, I'm SURE they have plenty of money!
Most basic complain on the internet. You can say the same on basically every video of a person being arrested.
@@julianx2rl tell me you didnt watch the video without telling me you didnt watch the video.
Why do I get the feeling this will only push hackers to go even further against Nintendo?
It will. Just like american drones just made more terrorists. Nintendo doesnt get it. They just want to exert their power over others and create fear of fking with them. Just like any out of touch power hungry corporation or government. They'll fall just like anyone else with time. No country, or company, can last forever. They have made so many terrible decisions. This is just...egregious punishment that doesnt fit the crime. They could have been smart enough to hire the guy. If he's good enough to break their hardware, you can be damn sure he's good enough to protect it.
@@joshuajefferson3504 uhhh can wait another bowser, amirite?
Bc they deserve it, that would be why
And the thing is as long as they don't try to profit from it then Nintendo will have a harder time trying to crucify them.
@@FookinIsh do you think 99% of 'pirates' and 'hackers' understand that?, probably not.
What a time to live where corporations can ruin people who "hurt" them yet suffer no consequences if the opposite happens.
We only need common cybernetic implants and full dive VR for this time line to be pure cyberpunk. We already have the "corporations running the world" part covered.
@@abadenoughdude300 why do we get only bad parts of that deal 😂
Nestle uses slave labour and its legal. The world is shit and its because of corporations.
But thats not gonna stop u from playing games on that corporations hardware is it??
@@jonnyfendi2003I mean who actually play games on the switch lol
At that point, it might be cheaper to get a new identity.
Lol. I was thinking: "if there were ever a reason to fake ones death.."
"I need a new dust filter for my Hoover MaxExtract PressurePro model 60, can you help me with that?"
Rusty Shackleford
Word. Real life gamertag change
@@ramonandrajo6348 Stop spamming.
Yeah, Nintendo just wanted these people to suffer. Insane how this is legally possible (20-30% FOR LIFE is insane)
considering everything this dude and his group was responsible for in the 3ds and switch homebrew community I do not feel bad for him.
stealing code
adding remote bricking code
selling other people's work
etc
@@Renos44 it's just money and people having fun. Nintendo can just move on
This is just Nintendo being Nintendo
Probably the main aim is setting an example so future people will think twice about doing the same
@@joey.99 spoken like a freeloader who hasn't created shit in their lives
And there's a kicker. The severity of punishment indicates one of the worst crimes is hurting a corporation, not worse moral evils which only get a slap on the wrist. Which is messed up.
As a disclaimer, I'm not saying companies shouldn't protect their properties. Just that the punishment should match the crime.
It's their property. Get over it.
Corporations suffer no legal consequences for the most part but they sure as shit make sure they're dished out to others.
@@jaylucien669 found the nintendo dickrider
@@jaylucien669 Way to miss this point, smooth brain.
Agreed. I wouldn't say they had no ground here, just that it's far too extreme.
In Japan, this shit is just common. Their copyright law is as ancient as thr dinosaurs, and their enforcement is way tighter here than in America. There's a law that could land you two years in prison for LINKING PIRATE SITES FOR MANGAS. They don't fuck around with the crackdowns either. They worked together with the ISPs to track down your address and your activities, and can immediately send the police for accessing pirate sites. There's a person who downloaded ROMs at a site, and the next day the police immediately showed up in front of his house. Add to the fact that they don't have "fair use" too, and you have a country that basically treated copyright as a criminal case rather than a civil one.
They even take defamation seriously.
@@agamersinsanity Their entire law is basically if you're reported to anything = you're guilty until proven otherwise
so obey the law to a tee there
@JPS_User To be fair that's how America's law works too. We just pretend it's "innocent until proven guilty" haha
It’s disturbing that they’ll do all this for these crimes, yet look the other way for the insane about of SA that country has
They’ll support the heck out of companies exploiting their workers and pushing them to suicide, and then go after the common man like THIS. Just insane
@@adamjamestattoos not really, to claim someone guilty you actually need to have enough proof of that, exceptions do exist depending on both parties, like, a mega corporation vs a random person.
In japan its the other way around, specially because of how corrupt the legal system there is, i wont say that it doesnt really matter who you are, because it does, if you are a foreign and get into the smallest of legal troubles, you are fucked, same reason why scamming is so prevalent there, in most cases its best to just pay the scammer than for them to get you into court, because of how you, the defendant, have to prove you are not guilty, and how the system itself will try all they can to make sure you dont.
So the multibillion dollar company wants 20 to 30% of one person's salary for the rest of his life? that's just unnecessary cruelty and abuse
@Soundwave Superior It's not always about the money, Spiderman.
yeah for selling a product someone else made for a few hundred dollars a month. so the dude probably made a few thousand dollars and now he "owes" 14 million to a multi billion dollar company...
Corporate slavery. Sets a precedent that you can be enslaved by a corporation if you commit any crime against one.
Good thing corporations cant i fluence laws through bribery…i mean lobbying. Because then there would be entities setting the laws, pursuing litigation against you with far more money if you happen to break one of their laws and then owning a non negligible amount of all wealth you will earn in your life.
@@NGEvangeliman I don't think it's about how much he made but rather how much he caused Nintendo to lose. Like if he sold a device to someone for $100 and that person freely downloaded $1000 worth of games, do you think Nintendo cares more about the $100 he made, or the $1000 they lost?
I absolutely agree with you here but I also agree with young that this isn't about the money it's about sending a message
That guys life is basically ruined. He did his time and a fine is OK. However 10 million dollars to an every day Joe is obscene for a non violent crime. They shouldn't have a right to destroy the rest of his life.
Consequences have actions pimp.
@@GleppaPigg You're right, so let's all do our part to help Nintendo learn that lesson.
Plus simply having a criminal record will greatly hinder his chances of getting a decent paying job. Having to give up a quarter of low paying job may very well land him unable to pay bills or feed himself properly.
@epimetheaus1214 yep nintendo are scummy too but face no payback
@@GleppaPigg unless u gave lots of money like nintendo
At that point if I were him, I would just keep hacking out of spite.
@@joshuajefferson3504 he didn't hack the company... he MADE physical mods for the switch console, so you could load homebrew, (and games you downloaded off the internet.) the term "hack" here refers to modifying the console or software in any way.
Nintendo is like the perfect example of, You either die a hero, or live long enough to become the villan. They saved gaming in the 80s. Then they slowly morphed into a company that makes Apple seem tolerable by comparison. F nintendo.
@@HeartInLight surprising how everyone wants EA to shut down despite Nintendo making them look like a kid in comparison.
The sad part about companies is that the moment they become bad it's often too late to stop them.
Repeat offenders don't really need a reason or motivation. They just do it, because it's in their nature to. That's kind of the point.
@@thedarkemissary or think about this they have nothing left to lose
Damn, he owe 14 mil and payments is 25-30% of his income. He’s in financial prison for life with no parole
I'm calling it now, he's gonna be in the news again within the next year, most likely either a mass shooting or a suicide.
Dude ain't never gonna make rent with this lmao
@@Shuffffff Yeah like how the fuck is he supposed to be anything but homeless with this?
Leave the country at that stage
@@gnavarro957 I’m not sure that would be enough to be honest
This is not just a punishment but pure legal cruelty and it feels like Company abuse of legal power.
Japan is notorious for having a down right devious legal system.
@Crimsomdragoont rue, they convict 99.9 percent of the time it's guilty until proven innocent(or slip the judge a few million yen lol) and under enforce SA laws
I mean it was illegal :)
Think they could have done something instead of what they did to him think he got off easy tbh
@@cody3335I mean there is a committing a crime and then just enforcing slave labor.
While I no way support piracy of any product, and Nintendo has the legal right to sue, I also don't endorse slave labor for something that should have just gotten this guy a jail sentence
You'll never see a corporation suffer something like this after doing shady shit.
Just a few million dollar fines the average joe doesn't understand is just a dollar to these companies.
Governments can't punish corporations too severely otherwise they'll see that it's cheaper to leave and so more pain for the government.
Corporations hold all leverage against Governments.
China is willing to destroy it's economy to send a message to Billionaires. Not something the West will do.
You had corporations who killed people and got away with it.
@@ihavenonameforyou1 And you had other corps who ripped off small guys and trademarked it.
Facts
@@ihavenonameforyou1 you had corporations that went debt-ridden yet can just wipe off their debts. i.e. Credit Suisse. But this is not the case for individuals.
This guy's nearing retirement age, and they decided to give him a punishment that'll last until his final breath. I don't know if this speaks to the justice system's corruption or Nintendo's.
Aw heck, why not both?
@@Furyspark Y'know what, sure.
Nintendo shoulda not be dumb. And hired the man to design ways to prevent such things to their hardware. If he's smart enough to do it, he's smart enough to design protections against it. But Nintendo...is not known for being smart. They're notorious for hating their own fans, and shitting on everybody who steps out of line with them. F nintendo.
Y'all talking in circles. Said it yourself. Guy is almost expired. At most he's gonna couch up $20k by the time he's dusted. Made way more fking over Nintendo for years. Probably should have off-shored some of it.
@@joshuajefferson3504 says a lot about you bruh
We live in a society where you can get away with less punishment for murder and rape than just making mods for videogames and making some small change on the side
I don't know about that one chief, considering you can be executed for murder and thrown in prison for decades for rape and more.
Life hack: if you make hacks for games, rape someone on the side so the rape charge supercedes the hacking charge!
@@DeadKraken bro tried to throw Rittenhouse in there
@@anthonyfernandez82 Yeah I threw that bitch in there, you have something to say about it that disproves my point?
@@DeadKraken they hold onto the sex offenders list for life. There's a lot of life-long issues with that. But I do agree we do live in a society with some skewed justice issues.
Damn, wish they had this kind of dedication to preserving their games as well...
DONT PRESERVE OUR GAMES! LET THEM DIE! - Nintendo
@@NEMOsleeps24God will sentence Nintendo of Japan for an unforgivable sin. Drinking poison hoping their fans die aka unforgiveness
Matthew 6:15
Wish they put more dedication into their games and not censor them.
@@ihavenonameforyou1 Wish they put more dedication into stopping themselves from taking their own music off TH-cam by copyrighting TH-camrs.
@@bailujen8052 da fuq,...
I feel like when the punishment is that severe, it would only encourage the Bowser dude to commit more crimes, since he may feel like he's got nothing left to lose.
Pffft at that point why not go after his collaborators?
And then you realize how truly severe it is, that he can probably never work with anybody again when this is on his record.
It's also his only chance to earn income he's not giving 20+% of to Nintendo...
@@NTB_Santoe you don't get it do you he can barely make money anymore desperate people do desperate things they probably made their biggest enemy for this
Bowser can try and commit more crimes all he wants, Mario will stop him and put him in Nintendo jail.
If he makes an honest living, I have to pay taxes plus 25% to Nintendo. he makes an dishonest living and nothing needs to be reported or paid back. which would he choose?
14.5 million is ludicrous and shows the American court system is run by clowns....
Sometimes I think these are just random numbers they come up with on the spot.
You just realised this recently?
canadian
Canada*
And it seems like that is especially true whenever there is anything related to intellectual property.
This is legitimately terrifying, if a megacorporation can do this, what else can they do?
They already write laws. They have more power than some politicians
@@pinkstarburst99 They own politicians by financing their election campaigns.
Anything. They have enough money and power to fight you in court forever. Even if they are in the wrong, us peons have to bow to their will, because we just don’t have the money to fight them.
This is why I respect the Chinese communist party. They don't take garbage from their corporations.
Bro, this is what they do legally, if you knew what they do illegally it'd make your skin crawl, and they can get away with it too cause they have the money to. People have definitely died before because a corporation wanted them to.
You're right Yong, the extreme punishment DOES make me far more empathetic with the criminal. I wonder if he could get out of it by declaring bankruptcy? I feel like it ought to be illegal for a mega corporation to take 30% of anyones income for life
It doesn't for me. I could hardly care less about the guy. He knew that Nintendo was fiercely protective of their property and still committed the crime anyway. He only has himself to blame for getting greedy.
Yeah, at worst it should be a small percent of his wage after cost of living expenses. As it is, with a criminal record he'll probably be only earning around minimum wage, then taking 30% of that could quickly leave him unable to pay bills or feed himself properly.
The man could be made homeless all because Nintendo thinks every pirated game is absolutely a lost full price purchase.
@@darkstorm2579
Bootlicker moment
@@darkstorm2579 ok bootlicker
@@darkstorm2579 keep that same energy for Nintendo my guy.
This is unironically some Arasaka-level shenanigans from Nintendo
Theu are Arasaka.
Wake the fuck up, samurai. We got some Pokemon to catch!
Nintendo's ninjas are cyberpunk Links!
"Two nukes wasnt enough then.." johnny silverc*ck.
@@notjimpickens7928 “ and a nice cock”
We've officially reached Dystopia status, boys. May the Corpos have mercy on our souls.
Let the hunger games.....begin
They won't
Cyberpunk 2077 was correct on this.
mercy is going to cost you a hefty subscription fee
We've been there for a long time buddy
“Don’t step on the grass, or we’ll cut your legs off”
-Nintendo
This is one of the most completely insane court rulings I've ever heard. At that point you either fake your own death or commit a real crime in retaliation.
By "real crime", you mean murder-suicide of a shooting, followed by a bullet in one's cranium/brain?
Bit extreme, you could just become homeless instead.
Can't pay 20-30% if you are homeless and earn $0.
@@Khaisz. yes bc everyone knows being homeless is easy...
@@KirillT14 it's better then paying $12.5m
@@Khaisz. That's relative. But he will never pay that $14 mil. Not sure where he lives but in America being homeless is literally the last thing you want. There are people that commit crimes just to go to prison so they don't starve and freeze on the street.
I don't know if it's the smartest thing for Nintendo to try and push this guy to the point where he'll have nothing left to lose.
Yeah...just wait in a couple of years we will hear about a assassination against a nintendo exec
They don't care what this person does they did it to send a message to future hackers as an intimidation tactic
Regardless, rather extreme punishment
ding ding ding, we have a winner.
Exactly.
@@dragoncpu2226 I hope he does
Bro, I just thought about this. He wasn't just used to send a message. He is potentially Team-Xecuter's literal scapegoat. He was a lower level employee that they potentially dropped all of the blame on. Think about that shit.
I don't think that teams going to give two shits about that hacker.... It will be more scary for the hackers if it was more of a higher-level hacker, but this guy's basically just a grunt in the overall organization.... Which makes setting him up as an example is even more stupid and waste of time.
@@Dragonk116 you dont understand
@@contramachina354 Yes I do
The sad thing about this punishment is they only did it to hurt him, not get back whatever profit they lost. This man will never make up what he needs to pay it off with such a wage cut. This man will be lucky to even have a home.
You are pitying a hacker that had been selling bootleg gamea and isp from nintendo and not to mention his hacked wares are also known to be laced with spywares for profits. The dude had it coming even if i dont like nintendo
@@wongsetsuna this dude is just the spokesperson or the salesman for the shady company he works with. It's not like he's the one who code that malicious code and he only get around 300k-ish not millions like other people said iirc. It's the boss who should get the punishment not him. Even then, that punishment is already excessive even for the boss. Mind you, Nintendo don't even need the money. They probably just throw the check everytime he pays the fine.
@@wongsetsuna no game hacker has THIS punishment coming bro. You're weird asf, does every thief deserve to be homeless? Because this guy is definitely bound to be.
Nintendo is just another corrupt and greedy company. They'll gladly fuck us over without a care in the world, but will unleash on us if we even tried to do the same
@@wongsetsuna lick boots harder, really love the taste of that shoeshine don't you
It'll either make hackers nervous, or turn them into robin hoods who want to take nintendo down.
Well, Nintendo clearly wanted it to be the former, that's why they went after this guy so hard, not for the money, just to send a message to other would-be hackers.
No matter what they do it will never stop intelligent, capable people with big egos, lots do it just for the clout
@@22028 Why do anyone do anything at all? 🤔
@@nick15684 They'll never stop hackers, because what makes this situation different from basic hacking is this dude legit stole actual money from Nintendo and even sold other peoples hacks for profit. Most hackers know better than to monetize their tools, because as long as you don't monetize them, you can do a damn good job of staying off Nintendo's radar, this guy got greedy and left a paper trail.
This won't stop hackers, it will only make them smarter.
@@megaman37456 Uh, selling "tools" is a super common thing, malware makes millions
Remember, everyone
No company is above being scummy
I mean...Nintendo, despite making beloved game series, have been known to be utter scum on the company side for decades.
Its called a human stupid We're all a piece of scumbag
He deserved it also cause he prob isn't gonna follow rules anyways
Its scummy to act within the law and demand money lost from a criminal?
They are well within thier rights.
corpos are your enemy
That's just downright devious lol, that's pocket change to Nintendo, I think its pretty obvious this is nintendo making an example and sending a message
@@ramonandrajo6348 Hey, if you don't like an entertainment company's products, you don't have to use them.
Usually companies just send a cease-and-desist for this sort of thing since it wouldn't be financially worthwhile to pursue further charges. Generally people back off when they get one, or try to pursue a case in court otherwise. Given that this guy was making a profit off of his hacks, that's likely why Nintendo went for something harsher.
I feel the punishment is too much, but at the same time, what did he expect to happen for making a profit off of pirating a company's products? Even doing so indirectly (e.g., Patreon) can be enough to be raked over the coals.
@@YouAreStillNotablaze He keep spamming the same comment 😂
I mean I'm not hating on piracy but I definitely not gonna recommend anyone.
@@ramonandrajo6348 keep saying that so openly they're gonna crack down in ways you can't imagine
@@NetBattler its good to preserve old games not available anywhere, but doing it on recent games is just screwing over the developers that worked in the games
Funny thing is the CEO of Nintendo of America is named Doug Bowser. A hacker of Nintendo hardware is name Gary Bowser. Is anybody named Bowser not entangled with Nintendo out there somewhere or is these people's fate already determined?
Andrew Bowser, TH-camr/amateur filmmaker.
@@charlesfuzak Andrew TATE
Dude, this is cruel and unusual punishment.
Agreed and this is an US prison system so it applies
No. It's well within there rights for profiting from there IP literally
@@silverhawkscape2677 it may be within their rights, but it doesn't change the fact this IS cruel and unusual punishment.
@@silverhawkscape2677 you are better than this. Defending a multi-billion dollar company is not it
In a weird way what Nintendo is actually telling Gary Bowser is that as punishment for doing crime, he is condemned to never make money again in his life unless it's from more crime.
Real job? Nintendo take 30%. Steal again? Nintendo take 0%. Just gotta don't get caught this time.
Really nice lesson 😅
I think their punishment reasoning is, "You tried to make money off our shit, we'll make money off your shit."
@@Naruku2121 Yeah, but the solution for him is to stop trying to make money legally altogether. Which means Nintendo get 30% of nothing. "We don't care about our money as long as you are forced to be poor or be criminal" is the actual message they're sending.
@@Chromodar I will say, I did not think there was a law you can basically screw some one over like that. Let alone it can be enforced. Maybe he can get an appeal given how unfeasible it is to pay.
it's different country and the $$$ amount is much lower but I know people who do it.
@@Naruku2121 _One example of a case where a defendant faced significant financial consequences following a criminal sentence is the case of Martin Shkreli, also known as the "Pharma Bro."_
_In 2017, Shkreli was sentenced to seven years in prison and ordered to forfeit $7.36 million in assets, including a one-of-a-kind Wu-Tang Clan album and an unreleased album by Lil Wayne, as well as a stake in a pharmaceutical company he founded. Shkreli was convicted of securities fraud and conspiracy for defrauding investors in his hedge funds and manipulating the stock price of a pharmaceutical company he owned._
_Following his sentencing, Shkreli reportedly faced significant financial challenges, including the loss of his assets and the inability to pay legal fees and other expenses. He was also reportedly forced to sell his prized Wu-Tang Clan album and other assets to help pay his debts._
It seems like Nintendo wants to hold him accountable for the full amount of damages caused by his team, but fully acknowledge he only had a small part to play. That definitely feels wrong.
Considering how Nintendo treated Russians maybe they can make said operations from Russia since they won't support Nintendo. Plus piracy does not lower profitability including what they did. I did not buy many Nintendo games and got then another way because of censorship and if there was no other way then I would still not buy them.
The whole team is being pursued for over $500M. His portion is $10M which is 2% of the total. So he was fined a relatively small amount for his "small part".
If only Nintendo put in this much effort to keeping their older library playable.
These types of settlements are the kind that create mass casualty incidents, Bowser was nearing retirement, now he's never going to be able to get a even remotely well paying job due to the jail time, and anything he CAN get is going to be garnished well below the poverty limit. I will not be surprised when he either commits himself to Hades or decides to strike out at those that completely ruined his life (regardless of the legality).
Nothing is worse than Child Support. Millions of people living in poverty the way that system operates.
Good thing most of the western world is less insane than the USA about this sort of thing and he has citizenship elsewhere (if I didn't lose track of who was who).
My question is why are y’all worrying about this criminal he hacked and profited games. Y’all are so backwards
Those who ruin his life are you really that unintelligent The dude ruined his own life ain't no one ruined his life Why you trying to make the guy like he's a victim He's not a victim by the sounds of it you sound like a type of person who thinks in today's society that crime is okay people like you disgust me no one screwed up his life or ruin his life but himself so let's get that straight you brainless fool
@@TheMeanArena Maybe don't abandon your kids then. Raising a child isn't cheap.
If my name was Bowser and Nintendo was trying to take my money, I'd go homeless and send them a note saying "sorry, your money is in another wallet"
Chad move.
They'll just bill his relatives
Doesn't work in America, and you cant fly without giving your SS number.
I don’t think even Disney’s lawyers would be this ruthless.
Yeah Disney has American values. Nintendo is Japanese
They wouldn't lol
No, they would take your kids and turn them into "performers" instead. They don't need the money from your bank when they own your progeny.
Agreed. Those guys have a sense of Public Relations, like the current situation with the new Florida legislation
If it went to court, and based on the level of infraction, you bet they would. I've seen it happen, on a lower scale, to a brick and mortar store. They got hit with a pretty strong and stiff sentence and they hardly sold more than maybe 15 modded Xboxs with pirated software preloaded on it. If they profited on a level like Bowser's company here did, it would probably be similar. If Disney got a guilty verdict on someone for the same amount, with a typical judge following state law, expect to pay that for life.
"Steal from the poor, you'll get rich .... Steal from the rich, you'll go to jail"
I wish drunk drivers, murderers, rapists, etc. would have such sentences after their jail release.
Nah just ex ecute them so we don't waste money on keeping them around and they cannot reoffend
Exactly. This dude just stole games, meanwhile people who seriously harm others sometimes don’t even go to prison.
@@kenetickups6146 Executing them is way more expensive lmao. So even if you don't care about human rights and just about money, you're wrong. And they don't actually lessen crime at all.
@@arcanefire7511 So they magically just commit crimes from beyond the grave?
>way more expensive
that's a problem with the system
>human rights
I care about justice for the victims, and yeah I care about people's rights, not parasites
@@kenetickups6146 aight, but how many people get wrongly persecuted?
Never has a motivation of spite been more strong than hearing about this. The dude went to jail and did his time, this is just petty at this point. I hope he goes by a different name and just completely wrecks the shit out of Nintendo without them finding out that the same guy
Omegaleak incoming?
"After careful consideration about my punishment,
*I'VE DECIDED TO BECOME WORSE* "
@@DigitalApex There does come a point where that's actually the least irrational course of action. ... Of course, most people either go that direction well before that point or never go that direction even when it should, but still.
That would be called slavery, Nintendo now owns these hackers in shackles.
100% correct.
Nintendo is bowser in real life 💀
any form of work can be considered slavery. companies own you and if you don't walk in the line you're fired and lose the money, not to mention all the tax and stuff you have to pay. we're slaves of the system, no matter which one.
@@gundamdetractor337k
Well maybe not make millions of dollars in the face of that
Seriously people encouraging people to Pirate old Sega and Sony stuff all the time you can literally install apps on your PlayStation 3 and download games.
To profit off of Nintendo games that are currently being sold? Stupid
More companies are gonna start doing this. We've officially entered the Cyberpunk timeline.
You're at least 19 years too late. Microsoft already did it in 2004.
Too late, they have been doing this for decades.
Cyberpunk timeline is just chinese style facism.
12:10 - Just having a criminal record will make it almost impossible to get a job. But having ONE GUY in this multi-person company pay 20-30% of his waged forever is insane.
The criminal justice system has never been about "justice". It's not surprising at all that wronging a major corporation carries one of the harshest penalties.
I really don't like that we live in a world where this can even happen
@GuyInCLE It's videogames, bro. And this doesn't just happen to anybody.
@GuyInCLE Based lad
@GuyInCLE This is literally just about video games.
It's about making a product and expecting to get paid for it.
@@YouAreStillNotablaze exactly. Which is why there is no legal grounds to ruin someone's life over it. Or at least, there shouldn't be. After all it's just video games. Yet that is exactly what happened.
@GuyInCLE Hard pass. I'd rather keep to myself. I'm sick to death of talking about politics what with how jaded everything has become.
It infurates me that if a big company proscutes a person they will get an insane sentence. But if its a normal person proscuting for a bigger crime they will get a better sentence just because they aren't a billion dollar company.
Ironic that his last name is a Nintendo villain.
When the real bower comes at u
Bruh you beat me to it... kudos
🤣🤣🤣
So long Gary bowers ! 😂 I’m so sorry 🙏 Forgive me 😂 can’t help myself sometimes
I guess Mario does win in the end after all
@@knowledgeseeker4116 bowers 🗿
So basically Nintendo handed him a death sentence as he can no longer afford the current cost of living
the other hacker won't find job so easily when the bosses check his profile
He's been at this for years I'm pretty sure he has lots of money stashed away stop trying to feel bad for this piece of garbage He's a criminal a thief and he got what was coming to him you play stupid games you win stupid prizes stop making the guy like some victim he destroyed his own life no one else did
Sucks to suck. You do dumb shit you deserve consequence. Fuck all of this leniency we show criminals in America. People need to learn that doing illegal shit is wrong and will fuck you if you do so otherwise crime rates will continue to rise as they have over the past few years.
@@abrahamlupis9354 don't count on that. Any other company competing with Nintendo would want such a "hacker" in their ranks.
@@nekki9228 Exactly, how in hell would any tech company pass on talented hackers that can help iron out the loop holes in their security. They are a good double edge sword.
That punishment feels way too severe imo, would be fun to know how much he actually profited overall from his activities, but it must be a far cry from $14.5m.
Reading Wikipedia's entry on Team-Xecuter, he was just their PR guy... PR as in "Public Relations". No way he'd earn $14.5m from that alone (even if he got a tiny cut from the profits).
I think it's on the grounds of "damages done", not "profits he made"
I read an article that in total, he only gained about $250k TOTAL in profit over the 20 years he worked on the team.
Regardless of what he made, I wouldn't be surprised if he did well over 14.5m in damages.
It's not like team Xecutor designed regular CFW, like Atmosphere. Xecutor designed their products with the sole aim of piracy.
@@HandlesL except there's a difference between being justly sentenced and being sentenced to a cruel and unusual punishment. I'd say being charged 20-30% of his paycheck for life in this economy should fall under the later, or do you like the idea that corpos can make a person permanently homeless for infractions that do pretty much no damage to them.
My guy is getting punished like a war criminal wtf 😂
Peach needs that child support money, lmao
Ayoooo lmao
She took the kids and divorce papers.😢
😂
@@NetBattler Don't worry, Bowser will be fine
(The character Bowser, not the guy that got himself into this mess lmao)
@@burrzie8446 but not his mental health😢
Didn't even know something like this could be legal.
At that point I’d just fake my death, disfigure my face, lose the glasses and find a way out of the country.
Better Call Saul
@@haroldnecmann7040 that's what he should've done.
And change your name.
@@haroldnecmann7040 Hi, I'm Saul Goodman. Did you know that you have rights? Nintendo says otherwise, but I do.
Sickening behavior from Nintendo. A non-violent victimless crime where the perpetrator willingly plead guilty and served his time without issue. And Nintendo still purposefully wants to ruin the rest of this man's life by making it far more stressful than it needs to be over a petty amount of money to them.
"Far more stressful than it needs to be" is wildly generous.
I'm expecting that in the next year, he's gonna be in the news again... For a suicide or a mass shooting.
This sounds more like it was done to "send a message" to hackers, rather than to deliver justice, to be honest.
like alex jones
How else are you suppose to be deliver justice?
@@the_furry_inside_your_walls639 how about not giving a 51 year old man a penalty of 14 million
@@Hellraiser988 I've been reading a few of these comments and I'm so confused. You and everyone hating on Nintendo in this situation are acting like "Gary Bowser" is an innocent victim who was just playing Mario on his couch and got slapped with jail time and this sentence. If this dude wasn't trying to profit from piracy this never would have happened. You can talk all day about how the punishment isn't proportionate to the crime (Which is up for debate. Stealing IP property isn't a small thing) but at the end of the day, if he didn't commit the crime this never would have happened. It never would have went to court to see this guy punished. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time or pay the fine.
It's not like Nintendo is going to take you or myself to court because we're playing super smash brothers.
Yes, that's exactly what it's about. 9/10 times a lawsuit is about sending a message more than anything else. Not unique to this situation. Do you really think Nintendo needs or wants that 10 million they'll never actually get from this guy? No, of course not. They're a multi-billion dollar company, that shit is chump change to them. It was never about the money, always about sending a message. This is about the worst outcome that could happen to the hacker in this situation, and Nintendo knows it, they wanna make sure every would-be hacker knows it from now till the end of time.
if i was that guy, i would just unalive myself in front of nintendo offices to send them my last message, then haunt the place as a poltergeist and delete source code when it was at 90% or something
Modern solutions
Legit had the same thought, or double down and do something even more drastic
what a crazy thing i just read
Lol even if I was caught pirating and they give me a sentence like this, there is no way I'm doing any part of that 😂😂. Who tf they think they are? My life will definitely change that day. How it will change is the question but I guarantee they won't expect the outcome.
Gee, edgelord much?
Damn this is just downright evil. So who's the next target, mod developers?
The real problem here is that these guys made a lot of money from their hacks. Most mod developers release their stuff for free specifically to avoid getting Nintendo's attention
@@Thund3rDrag0n12 ye but he's not alone in this and that amount is ridiculous for him to pay alone. Now that they can do this it's likely they will go much further as you know Nintendo is known for being an arse.
@@dingdong3335 Most likely the company in charge of the illicit piracy just used him as a scapegoat and told Nintendo to go for it and blast the dude out of the water in exchange for disclosure of information or protection of their own higher ups.
mod developers are already threatened. The BotW multiplayer mod creator gets destroyed now!
@@dingdong3335
Yep. It's not so much about the punishment itself (or that this is just Nintendo sending a message), it's about how this could set a dangerous precedent.
All efforts to preserve video games, develop emulators and modifying systems to extend and/or augment them (especially when it's Nintendo's games and consoles involved) could become a massive risk. Nintendo has enough money that they could possibly make the mere act of preserving video games (even at a personal level on games they legally own a copy of), developing emulators (even if only to be used to play personal backups) and/or modifying systems (even if only for homebrew use) a federal crime worthy of harsh punishment.
You might even say this punishment is cruel and unusual.
having a lifetime sentence from a CORPORATION is some dystopian shit
Pretty wild how Nintendo is a multi billion company and still does shenanigans like this
That's what all rich companies do.
They also have to, because of some legal reasons I'm lazy to google right now..
@@daeryk6424 not 30% of their income for life...
Yeah, they always go on about how they wanna uphold their image as a family friendly company. Yeah a family friendly company who will haunt you for all eternity if you do shit like this. Remind me why we support these shitheads again?
So these guys were basically stealing from Nintendo and you guys call Nintendo scummy good to see how your morales are ass backwards but anyway things to hate on Nintendo meanwhile we let the others get away with the same actions
We're entering the age of the megacorporation dystopia.
Entering?
*We've been it in all this time and it's about to get wayyyy worse, bucko*
This sets a dangerous and exploitable legal precedent for companies to copy in the future.
the definition of a "cruel and unusual punishment"
I'd say probably the textbook definition of ít
Odd1out
True American right here.
He's Canadian and Nintendo is Japanese, so neither applies here.
@@danny90099 hey pal, blow in from stupid town?
Damn the Nintendo ninjas are ruthless.
Not as ruthless as the fan boys defending Nintendo sheesh 😂
@@knowledgeseeker4116 "Um AKCTUALLY Nintendo is in the right because he stole money that they'll make back in a day, Nintendo is just a poor little indie company, you're just a dirty pirate hater. And yes I do believe that Nintendo has the right to brick your system even though you bought it for 300$ and can do whatever you want with it."
@@theluminousone5883 😤 Say it with your chest out!💪 Tell ‘em!
As always.
@theluminousone5883 It's silly to argue for Nintendo in a monetary sense, but that doesn't change the fact that what Bowser did is still illegal. Just because it doesn't hurt Nintendo all that much doesn't mean they should just sit back and let people make entire careers off of hacking their stuff
That is super gross. How is that even legal?! That is disgusting!
Like I get he stole from nintenfo like genuinely but this punishment is not in any way realistic punishment. Punishment is supposed to fit the crime
Ah the three pillars of Nintendo, quality family friendly games, Theme parks and merch, and suing the ever living shit out of anyone and everyone
Nintendo lawyers saw his last name and everything went red
Damn, Nintendo sent out the IRS against him.
@@ramonandrajo6348Reported for being a spambot
@@Slavesforsale1 Same. I've been doing it every time i see it
@@Sacred_Sabre do it more, he's annoying as hell.
Even the IRS isn't this cruel
@@Slavesforsale1 How is this a spambot? I only seen his comment once
You see, I live in Brazil, I've saw politicians, mayors and even ex-presidents take tons of money from our public health and education systems and got less punishment than Gary Bowser. Brazil really need something with the same protective will that Nintendo has/
I don't care how legal or in the right they are, Nintendo blows.
This is like punishing shoplifting a candybar with a year in prison.
Worse - having to pay that shop he shoplifted from for the rest of his life.
Worse. A year in prison is 12 months of being confined in a holding cell.
That is entirely possible and tolerable for any common person you see on the street, they just need to wait it out. And that's not counting probation or getting out on good behavior. But paying even 1% of your salary to a company until the day you die? That's more money that should be for you and your savings gone after taxes.
Unless you're talking about a child, go ahead and give them a year in prison. Someone who chooses to steal something like a candy bar just because they want it, with absolutely no regard for the rights and feelings of its legal owner, is a piece of sh*t. F*ck them.
I met a guy who had to do a year in prison over $8 in beer. In the USA that will happen.
Which is exactly what it should be. People would stop the nonsense.
3:45 As an Italian, it is awesome to see your favorite creator speaking your language. Mad Respect brother
Mi amico. That's nice to hear, and he is trying and doing well.
This is absolutely foul. No corporation should be able to do this.
I know he did a no-no, but he served his sentence and a fine should've been enough. This sentence is just pure evil and I now feel less bad about pirating. Actually I lie, I never felt bad about that, but it does make me wonder why we even support these bastards in the first place??
Got a feeling this is gonna backfire hard on Nintendo. This looks like one of those instances where the internet or “hacker” or criminal groups group up.
Got to say I don't think even if all the hackers in the world teamed up they'd take a mega cooperation like nintendo down they just wouldn't have the funds to compete, that's if they would work together and not let greed come in their way don't think they care much about Gary bowser lol
@Adam SSJ I genuinely don't care about an aging criminal that got caught, charged, and convicted. He did this crap for several years and made solid money off his persistent criminal activity. Perhaps he should've gone to work on a corporate giant that isn't notorious for making examples
@@silverblade357 🐑
@Lilya Sounds like you don't believe in taking agency for one's actions.
You hack and get caught then you deserve what happens to you. Simple as that.
@@JDroo-me5uo there is such a thing as the punishment fitting the crime. Do I believe he should have served time? Yes. Do I believe he should have been fined? Sure. Do I think he should have been made into a scapegoat by being fined an absurd amount he could never hope to pay back for being a cog in a machine? Even if it was illegal? No. They made him into a spectacle in the hopes of being a deterrent. One that will ultimately amount to nothing because if a product exists, people will find ways to misappropriate it. If you think that's warranted then you can take your sociopath mindset somewhere else and let someone else tell you how just and right you are, because I'm not having it.
The headline should be "Nintendo legally enslaved man"
Remember the criminal justice system is about serving corporations, which is why we need a new one
Personally I would go with "Nintendo kills a man, he just isn't dead yet"
Maybe it's just my own depressive tendencies, but I'd bet money that guy commits suicide because like... What else are you supposed to do when doomed so thoroughly to financial ruin. To deliberately put someone in that position feels like an indirect murder.
@@mori6434 “Taking a man's livelihood is akin to killing him”. - Dave Chappelle
@@mori6434
Disappear and form a new identity.
@@mori6434 Would declaring bankruptcy be an option for him? From what I heard, it doesn't absolve you of having to pay court-ordered fines, though I'm not fully sure about the ramifications it could hold for his owed debt to Nintendo and financial stability in this particular case.
Hopefully he manages to get back on his feet and turn his life around.
Hey man, companies gotta make profit somehow. This is the way they do it with their own workers, why not to some hacker too
this is a rare case where ill actually side with nintendo as he was legit profiting off his modded switches
Now that is next level spite 😬
I finally found you
His GROSS income?? Stop... That man is gonna be garnished for life. That's insane
Nintendo will literally find a way to harvest souls of people if they want to.
the love hotels weren't that questionable
Hackers don't give a shit, this only emboldens them.
Nintendo definitely opened Pandora's Box. The lesson here is to stay in the gray and share without profit. As a community they can't attack everyone. They've tried once and even the court said that was a line that couldn't be crossed. So well see what happens in this game of cat n'mouse next.
Or a Pandora's Cube. Microsoft did a pretty strong thing, including an FBI raid for selling Modded Xboxs with preloaded games on them. This was back in 2004. Sure, their overall infractions were lower, but the sentence was of a similar level if you take into consideration the severity of profiteering. And yes, if done without profit, such wouldn't happen. As why Fansubs of Anime often place text in there stating, "Do not sell this" or something of the sort. (A rule Pandora's Cube also broke. They recorded other people's fansubs and sold those too.)
I'm not outrightly condoning piracy here for anything, but it's been pretty common knowledge, for decades, that if you start a business to profit off it, you crossed a line you just don't cross.
I mean.....piracy has been a thing since old ages of 80s, most of SEA countries all selling pirated games since PS1 and GBA days lol.
But yea maybe in recent years the rule updated for delevoped countries. Ppl still freely selling modded ps3, switch, etc on less developed countries where copyright law not well designed yet, even today,
I mean on the one hand, he did something illegal and has gotten in trouble for it... On the other hand, thats uhh... A little much there
Aye. This is basically legal serfdom. But I can't complain because I'm not Canadian.
Considering who got punished, it'll probably just embolden the smart hackers and just discourage the amateur hackers. Especially since they didn't hit a key member of the hacker group.
And tell the hackers to put boycott panflips and exposing how garbage Nintendo is
This is perfect. This is like the COO getting a prison sentence while the CFO and CEO get off scott free.
When he gets paid at his job "We are sorry Bowser but rest of your pay check is in another castle!"
Based
I feel bad for laughing at your joke 😭😭
@@NetBattler sorry I couldn’t help it 😆
Not even sure how nintendo was able to declare this amount of damages and enslave this guy. Absolutely insane.
@@joshuajefferson3504 Nintendo is vindictive as hell and hates their fans.
@@georgejones5019 they don't hate their fans. They don't like mods and emulation. If you don't do either you are fine
@@sakurayamazaki you remember their issues with Nintendo content on youtube and streaming? I do. they don't want you experiencing Nintendo anything without paying full price and the actual products never drop in price either.
@@sakurayamazaki Let me fix your quote for you: "They don't like mods and emulation... unless they're the ones using it." You may not be aware, but all of Nintendo's "Nintendo Switch Online Back Catalog" are run on Emulators. That's how they are able to update a lot of the old games and include Online Multiplayer Support for games that weren't designed for it. It's not that they reprogrammed the game to allow it, but rather they're using a ROM in an Emulator that, as the name suggests, emulates local multiplayer over the Internet. Also, all of those Micro Systems? You know, NES Classic and SNES Classic? Yeah... those are Emulators that run ROMS. So uh... Nintendo has made money off Emulation and continues to make money off Emulation every day with Nintendo Switch Online.
@@sakurayamazaki Rofl. And thats why they stole emulators from other peopel and use them to sell thei backcatalog of 10 game for 99.9 per month?
I guess moving to another country where he can't be forced to pay is the way to go lol.
He might have to live as a farmer or monk at that point to live without requiring payments or wages.
@@Aereto Nah, he can go to Russia or China, good luck reaching him 💁♂
@@Ebaniwell he can’t go to china, but maybe Russia.
@@RusticRonnie Most westerners would say that's the better place anyway.
What about the other 2 people who were caught? How can you charge them when they are not even US citizens?
They don't even need that money. This just evil
He literally has nothing to lose now
Kildozer 2?
His organs?
Well, he has exactly one thing left to lose.
Is Nintendo ran by kingpin or the court of owls or something?? Every single thing they do is like straight out of a comic book villain
dude have you seen their headquarters in japan? 100% of their entire administrative staff are nothing but a bunch of 70 plus year olds. They come from a generation of japanese corporate predators, the same generation that created the work ethics that are taking the work force of japan to the total ruin and a unavoidable fall of the nation as a whole.
How 'bout all of em😅
It sure seems that way. I don't know how much money they spent to get this verdict, but it couldn't have been cheap.
Effectively, Nintendo will not even notice the monetary restitution on their revenue, while Gary will forever be bound by this chain of debt.
Nintendo use to own love hotels for a brief period and are rumored to have some ties with some yakuza families.
No they are just run by greedy cunts. They rival EA and Activision for their scumbag behaviour.
the only way out is is basically somehow banking that sum in Go Fund Me... Most people hardly come by with full salary - losing 25-30% wouldn't meet ends for many.