@@RWSfan2025 Sega made crap hardware and lost fan loyalty due to dumb and short sighted business practices. Nintendo doesn't want people messing with their IPs
To be fair, about that mario 64 pc version, it was not really a remake but a decomplied version of the original game recompiled for pc wich is kinda shaddy at mest, a great engineering achievement, but shaddy. But metroid 2 am2r and other original projects built frum scratch, yes. It sucked.
@UltraPlushie so you are saying all sega franchises have bad quality?Persona says otherwise.Also not all mario games are good,mario is missing,Hotel mario,mario party to some point and that one crappy spinball spin off.
*_"Hey, SEGA, can I show you something?"_* *_"Sure."_* *_"So, I just made this fangame right here, what do you-_* *_"Y O U ' R E H I R E D"_* *_Seriously, though. I really respect that SEGA likes the job that their fans do, represents how sweet game companies can be to their fans. Congrats, SEGA._*
Mario: "NOOOOOOO! YOU CAN'T JUST LET YOUR FANS MAKE FAN GAMES! IT'S INFRINGING ON OUR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS AND MAKES US LOSE MONEY!!!" Sonic: "Haha Sonic fan game go wooooosh"
Also Sonic: Look Segas main property is 3rd party and most of the time have released games be controversial until Sega starts being more consistent on making good games we r gonna embrace the fans heck even after GOTTA SPEED KEED
@@candydream16 they will hustory repeats if something follows the same patterns and nintendo kinda followed the pattern of console doom a relly succesfull consol wii mega drive a flopped consol saturn wii u a good console switch dreamcast atari alao has the same pattern
nock radqkdak Nintendo is still selling their consoles extremely well, unlike sega which were having worse sales than the previous console. unlike Sega, Nintendo are still making amazing games, not saying that there weren’t amazing games on sega systems but not as much. Also Nintendo has moved to a new strategy, instead of making expensive consoles like PS4 or Xbox, they make new systems that are cheaper but have a feature that can not be done on other systems like the Switch Hybrid factor where it’s a home and handheld console.
Kirby Right Back At Ya! Reanimated: Nintendo took it down from TH-cam. Sonic X Reanimated: Official Sonic The Hedgehog TH-cam account commented that it's good.
The same people bashing Nintendo were awfully quiet when Viacom did the same thing to SpongeBob Movie Rehydrated. But hey, I guess it's okay when they made the "Nintendo Killer" that was more unfinished than Nintendo Switch Sports because of an update.
Ahmad Kazan what did they not do? SEGA did any and everything they could to destroy their own company by making some of the historically worst decisions a company can make.
What's funny about this whole thing is that sega won't mind fan games but Nintendo is like oh hey Mario called he wants his games back so basically sonic is open to millions of fanart and fan games while Mario's just like duh drep drep drep dont make anymore fanart or fan games about me ever again
@@cnk9822 None of those games, of course, being developed in-house... Just owned by Sega because goodness knows they know how to spot good games better than they know how to make 'em.
This is also why we see less Sonic advertisements than Mario, they get free advertising via fan games, art, remixes and even fan made stories. As for Nintendo.... *image of Mario using a Gatling gun shooting down random fangames*
Super Vocetubeia 64 sega are still on top in the gaming industry lol. series like persona, yakuza, hatsune miku and streets of rage are really successful at the moment, even sonic.
Well Fan Games are keeping Sonic alive. The games that did well lately by Sega were started by fans (Sonic mania, mobile Sonic remakes etc.). For Nintendo the games rather lower their sales because of the "why should i buy an official Nintendo game when i can just play this fanmade one" + Nintendo usually shuts down fangames only if they start making money
Sega: Hires FANS to reboot Sonic and Streets of Rage Capcom: Gives Fan-devs free Vacation to Japan and exclusive early access to Resident Evil 2 Remake Nintendo: Sees fan-made tribute games "KILL IT WITH FIIRE!!!"
@@soniboo9202 while I do not approve of making someone pay for a game in which you don't own the IP (that's quite illegal btw)... There is absolutely no way it will never hurt any company. They already make waaaaay too much money to lose anything in profit
Sega: Literally made the best Sonic game ever because they collaborated with fans. Nintendo: Literally terminated an entire TH-cam channel and countless people's dreams because the fans posted Nintendo music to listen for fun and made their own fan games
@@rodrigomorales563 yeah no, The TH-cam channel gave all credits to Nintendo and everyone with a normal brain would known Nintendo made it so why would it hurt them. Same with fangames etc
UltraPlushie technically, the only law the porters were breaking is copyright infringement. Since they remade the game from the ground up BUT did not directly copy any existing things from the original game (which means they recomposed the music, remade all of the textures, etc.), their only issue is the fact that it’s clearly a mario game, and all of the textures and music they redrew and recomposed are all clearly based on the original game’s copyrights. But that’s the same thing happening with SEGA fangames, if not even more copyright infringing than the Mario fangames, and yet SEGA still refuses to take them down. Sega really does what Nintendon’t in this case.
Dastanovich I mean, that’s more understandable than shutting down other fan games. Now I don’t know if the port your talking about is free or not but either no one will buy Mario 64 or a remaster of it (if one gets made) or They’ll get money for Nintendo’s work. As you can see, it’s bad for Nintendo both ways.
They only did it with just one and that's about it, I'd rather let Sega follow their own path rather than listening to the wrong sonic fans that can easily destroy the sonic brand and destroy everything
Sega: They might still my stuff, but I approve them...And I hire them...Also, they were helping me. Nintendo: I don't need help from those weird fans that likes fanfiction and other stuff.
Sega : and that's why so many your fans hate you for destroying their hard worked their fan games. They created a fan game to encourage and recognize you Nintendo. Nintendo : Some of my fans still loves me and buy my games. Encourage? Recognizable? Oh Please , those are still my copyright stuff and they took it.
@@klortikterra4423As being a third party company that should follow their own path rather than listening to the wrong sonic fans that can destroy the sonic brand easily. Remember what happened to sonic omens?
Sega: "No worries! Unlike Nintendo, we love your fangames! Keep at it!" Fans: "So what about your other franchises besides Sonic? You own Atlus and Persona technically--" Atlus: "Oh no, you will be shot on sight if you even think about touching our Persona."
Nintendo: were sueing you for making a mario creation that is really good and better than our games it is illegal we are taking all of your money Sega: your fangame is epic you put all your hard work to it people will really like your creation and you should keep it even if it's a fangame of our famous blue hedgehog
I know a lot of fans out there would think that if they make a Sonic fan game they would immediately get hired by Sega and I'm just here to say the truth that it's not that simple and it doesn't actually happen, The problem is Sega could easily approve and listen to the wrong Sonic fans that can easily destroy the sonic brand and destroy everything, Sonic is a brand and has to be protected at all costs. If You've heard what happened with Sonic Omen then you know exactly what I'm talking about, I'd rather let Sega follow their own path rather than listening to the wrong Sonic fans or the toxic sonic fans of the toxic ungrateful sonic fandom, Sega DOESN'T care about It's fans or the fan games in reality and being hired immediately If you make a Sonic game doesn't really happen immediately I like the Sonic fan games on the internet for free exactly the way they are and I rather have them only for free on the internet rather than letting them be approved by Sega, The Sonic brand must be protected from the wrong hands and the wrong Sonic fans that can destroy the sonic brand easily. *I don't want another dark age of Sonic a fourth time.*
I see your point, your definitely correct about how SEGA should be more protective from toxic fans but the same time I’m definitely glad they a lot more chill with fan games
Honestly sega can’t lose anything, so why wouldn’t they let their fans help with work, while Nintendo is pretty big and honestly if you’ve seen what people have done I wouldn’t trust some of Nintendo’s fans.
The fact that sonic mania's creators were fans who the got to make the ios and Android ports of sonic 1, 2 and cd then made sonic mania. It's truly a one and a million thing to happen.
@UltraPlushie The reason why Sega can't do much with sonic 3 and knuckles is because they might get sued and lose a lot of money thanks to the fact that Micheal Jackson worked on the soundtrack and Sega kept it in without crediting him.
Sega's decision to mostly allow fan content and even hire some fans for their projects has improved the overall visibility of their Sonic brand by a significant amount, rendering it more relevant in the public mindshare than it's been in a long time, and even going a long way to improving their games, their comics, and even their Hollywood movie. And all of this despite their main studio dropping the ball last few years with Sonic Forces. It just goes to show that if you embrace your fans then they'll keep loving your properties right back and that the overall benefits of a more open policy tend to outweigh the downsides.
I googled Mr Blobby. Heebie-jeebies. Also: I truly love how Sega is one of the few Japan based companies that embraces it's fan base. Sonic has always had this sense of, "We know we had a rough patch, but we're still trying", and that's what I like about it, they keep trying.
Sega of Japan: Killed the Dreamcast and made very poor business decisions Sega of America: Supports and works with fans to create awesome content (all within reason of course)
@HONOR Yet Sony offered Sega a collaboration chance to make SEGA-Playstation Console in the past - look it up. It is still valid that Sega were at fault for not allowing Sony to work with them for a video game console which by then had shown it's fangs when PS2 hit the stores. Completely annihilating Dreamcast's sales. I used to hold some kind of a misplaced grudge at Sony being the reason for Dreamcast's downfall, but i gotta admit that it's ( Sega ) their fault to begin with.
1:50 lol Doctor Who reference xD Anyway jokes aside,Nintendo was always agressive towards the fans' fangames.For example Pokemon:Brick Bronze,it was the best game made on the ROBLOX engine and everyone even myself enjoyed it.But then Nintendo had to take it all away,SEGA on the other hand isnt like Nintendo,like Project Heroes,The Infinity Engine and Sonic Tripple Trouble 16-bit.I am glad the fans of the Sonic Community puts their effort in their hardwork and doesnt get taken down❤. Edit:Ayyyy thumbnail changed
i mean creators of brick bronze was making a lot of money off of nintendo even sega would take it down because they are making a lot of money off there property
Sega does what Nintendon't: Give love to fans and listening to them I remind Sega that it was thanks to the fans that we have Sonic Mania and the Sonic redesign.
Street of rage isn't sega's complete property unlike sonic,similar to bayonetta,sega IP but published by Nintendo so fans can't make bayonetta fan games.
Fan games should be always allowed, if not made for monetary reasons. Good to hear once again that SEGA is cool with it. Not to mention that those collaborations with some fans were some big profitable projects for the company, too. It's a good relationship that I hope continues and keeps bearing fruit.
I think they like Fan Games because it's fans providing themselves and each other with content while Sonic Team (hopefully) gets to take their time creating the next official title. Plus, it ensures that their core audience will never let Sonic fall out of their consciousness since they'll often have new fan projects to play on a fairly consistent basis. Also, eyyy. 3:59 I know where that quote came from!
Nintendoes what segcan't and that is make quality games and a reason why they don't need support from fan games and profit better since Nintendo makes quality after quality game and fans trust Nintendo on it and I will still continue to support Nintendo. Sega just relies on fan games because they can't make a good game and a fan game will just keep sonic relevant from the dead and ship out flop after flop after flop
Sega: Supports Fangames and Loves their community for liking the canon games even though some of them are bad Nintendo: ( Sees a fangame thats making money ) No no no no no, get rid of the trash Sega Does what Nintendont
Capcom : You're making RE2 Remake fans project? That's cool,Now come help us! We're going to make greatest remake ever of the year! SEGA : Fangame? Do it,Bro! It's show that you still love us! Bethesda : You remake our games in Unity engine!? You remake our previous title in Skyrim's engine? Go forth,Do it! Nintendo : *N* *O* But joke aside,This is why I love SEGA. Even their games like Yakuza that made by RGG Studio is damn good. Also,They learned to appreciate fan and their fanmade.
I can't really blame nintendo. They are just pretty strict and i can respect that. While other people are saying SEGA is instantly better because they allow fans to make games dedicated to sonic.
I think they could go much further with this. They should fund a lot more small teams like Lizard Cube, Games Atelier and Christian Whiteheads. They all have original ideas as well.
Another aspect to consider why Sega loves fangames is the fan base on its own ambitions not just creating new content and ideas. But also preserving Sonic history with mastery extensive documentations. Sonic is the only franchise I can see with so many Alphas/Beta roms well preserved and the Sonic games that Sega themselves cannot touch whether technical or legal reasons. After all, I can only see Sega being internally grateful for the fan base for keeping Sonic the Hedgehog 3 alive.
The moral of the story is that Copyright should not be used as a means to restrict artistic expression, only to restrict what can and cannot be monetized for whom.
SEGA: "You made this game? I better hope you come to work tomorrow!" Nintendo: "You made this game? I better hope I see you in court!" Valve: "You made this game? I better hope it isn't an absolute garbage!"
Imagine what would be SEGA's reaction would be if they saw a fan-game of all the scrapped zones restored but the creator created his own paths and ideas.
SEGA: "You made this game? See you tomorrow at work!"
Nintendo: "You made this game? See you tomorrow at court."
honestly this needs more likes
@@Punkaroo yes it does
duality of man
@Coolpepe what
@Coolpepe Redditor
Sega: You're hired!
Nintendo: That's illegal!
**Sees 187 likes.**
*”WAs tHAt tHE biTE of ‘87¡¿”*
@@nglidk no u its 290
Mr. SonAmy You’re sued.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Wait. That's illegal.
"Cooperation is so much better than confrontation."
Take notes Nintendo.
Exactly right. Common sense.
If they keep this up, then they will suffer the same way Sega did
@@RWSfan2025 Sega made crap hardware and lost fan loyalty due to dumb and short sighted business practices. Nintendo doesn't want people messing with their IPs
@@MrGregory777 I mean, at least Sega is getting their fans back, slowly
Can’t say the same bout Nintendo
Sega: we love fan games
Nintendo: *DMCA's a fan's non profit Mario remake* what's that?
To be fair, about that mario 64 pc version, it was not really a remake but a decomplied version of the original game recompiled for pc wich is kinda shaddy at mest, a great engineering achievement, but shaddy. But metroid 2 am2r and other original projects built frum scratch, yes. It sucked.
@@davidsomoza the decompilation of mario 64 was done manually, also it doesnt include any copyrighted assets from the game
@@davidsomoza Manual reverse engineering is legal though
Having a patreon associated with your project makes it not "non profit"
Sega: “Come work for us!”
Nintendo: _“See you in Court!”_
There's seriously an Ivo at Sega and a Bowser at Nintendo? This is such a weird timeline we live in.
OH NO EGGMAN IS GONNA RUIN THE SONIC FRANCHISE AS WELL AS BOWSER WITH THE MARIO FRANCHISE
What a timeline, indeed.
In another timeline, there's a Sonic at Sega, and a Mario at Nintendo
KC Garcia
And in another, there's a Sonic at Nintendo and a Mario at SEGA.
Elijah McKenney Sorry bro Sonic has been ruined for a while
Sega: We love fan games because it shows that there still love for us and our games.
Nintendo: LMAO, NO!
I love Nintendo but I hate how they take down genuinely good and fun fan games.
Nintendo is anti consumer with its prices and service on games
Maruchi Pureito exactly
@UltraPlushie so you are saying all sega franchises have bad quality?Persona says otherwise.Also not all mario games are good,mario is missing,Hotel mario,mario party to some point and that one crappy spinball spin off.
Ahmad Kazan don’t you dare talk trash about hotel Mario you arduous muffin!
Sega: You're part of the team.
Nintendo: *See you in court*
_Sega does what Nintendon't_
Can you at least try to be more original?
@@rodrigomorales563 haha memes go make laugh
@@AbdelRahmanZak haha joke memes laugh
LMAO
@@rodrigomorales563 *hehe memes go brrr....*
Why do they love fan games? Simple: Sega do what Nintendon’t.
This joke is so overused that it became funny again
yup
That joke gave me a smile, i'll tell ya
Genesis, Does
Genesis, Does
Genesis, Does
Genesis Does!, What Nintendon´t.
END OF COMMERCIAL
I haven't heard that quote in a while
*_"Hey, SEGA, can I show you something?"_*
*_"Sure."_*
*_"So, I just made this fangame right here, what do you-_*
*_"Y O U ' R E H I R E D"_*
*_Seriously, though. I really respect that SEGA likes the job that their fans do, represents how sweet game companies can be to their fans. Congrats, SEGA._*
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Bless SEGA
@@brobunni Sega is now.
@@CalvinNoire ?
@@brobunni its translated into now : /
Nintendo: The overly strict father.
SEGA: The overly lenient mother.
Accurate
Diabeto Kills hmmm yes, recognising sega is a lot more forgiving then Nintendo, very fanboy, you are coming across as a Nintendo fanboy to be honest
Diabeto Kills I find it funny how you have a mario profile pic and are replying to every single comment. the real brainwashed fanboy is showing here.
@Diabeto Kills if you are someone that thinks everyone defending Sega is automatically a Fanboy please exit this video
@Diabeto Kills no... Like I am not a Sega fan and I'm a huge Nintendo fan but even I have the common sense to realise that Sega's right here
Mario: "NOOOOOOO! YOU CAN'T JUST LET YOUR FANS MAKE FAN GAMES! IT'S INFRINGING ON OUR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS AND MAKES US LOSE MONEY!!!"
Sonic: "Haha Sonic fan game go wooooosh"
Also Sonic: Look Segas main property is 3rd party and most of the time have released games be controversial until Sega starts being more consistent on making good games we r gonna embrace the fans heck even after GOTTA SPEED KEED
Lmao I can literally see the drawings in my head
MunkyBoi SSB was that at me or the person who made the original comment
Elijah McKenney original comment lol
Why is this so funny
Nintendo: "SEGA does what Nintendon't: Goes third party"
SEGA: "How's that Movie deal with the minions holding up?"
Mario x minions confirmed
Welp nintendidn't go third party so...
@@candydream16 they will hustory repeats if something follows the same patterns and nintendo kinda followed the pattern of console doom a relly succesfull consol wii mega drive a flopped consol saturn wii u a good console switch dreamcast atari alao has the same pattern
I mean, with a pandemic happening right now, it is a bit hard to say really.
nock radqkdak Nintendo is still selling their consoles extremely well, unlike sega which were having worse sales than the previous console. unlike Sega, Nintendo are still making amazing games, not saying that there weren’t amazing games on sega systems but not as much. Also Nintendo has moved to a new strategy, instead of making expensive consoles like PS4 or Xbox, they make new systems that are cheaper but have a feature that can not be done on other systems like the Switch Hybrid factor where it’s a home and handheld console.
Fangames: *exist*
Sega: Awesome these are good!
Nintendo: THIS IS NOT OKIE DOKIE
Sega: I love creativity.
Nintendo: I hate you.
Get out sonic fanboy
@@atre5763 What the heck are you doing IN A SONIC VIDEO.
@@atre5763 no you
@@atre5763 thank you , very cool
@@atre5763 Telling a fanboy to leave a video that affiliates with what they’re a fan of? That’s something you don’t see every day.
Kirby Right Back At Ya! Reanimated: Nintendo took it down from TH-cam.
Sonic X Reanimated: Official Sonic The Hedgehog TH-cam account commented that it's good.
Wait they took it down!? WHY!?
@@Cinnaloaff who knows? But it's back up again, but it's still scummy that they took it down in the first place.
At least it's back up though!
It was actually a group that was impersonating nintendo.
The same people bashing Nintendo were awfully quiet when Viacom did the same thing to SpongeBob Movie Rehydrated. But hey, I guess it's okay when they made the "Nintendo Killer" that was more unfinished than Nintendo Switch Sports because of an update.
Remember "Sega do what Nintendon't"? It's happening until now
Sega does what nintendont is a word I said and Sega said it but with Genesis does what Nintendont.
@@12345marios it's not just you who said that
fans does what Sega don't tho
But sega is screwing certain computers users over recently
I love how the captions said at the end "Cooperation is better than confrontation" only to correct itself a minute after XD
After she says, "The moral of the story?" The subtitles say for a split second "Cooperation is so much better than confrontation."
Make a "Why Valve loves mods and fangames" as well.
yes! im big valve fan too! maybe mention id software with quake and doom too.
Indeed
What about Capcom? They don't make a fuss about fangames.
How about a "Why Vale hates counting to 3" video? LOL
@@derekw8039 wait their is a number after 2?
Considering what SEGA has done, they better love their fans.
Ahmad Kazan what did they not do? SEGA did any and everything they could to destroy their own company by making some of the historically worst decisions a company can make.
What's funny about this whole thing is that sega won't mind fan games but Nintendo is like oh hey Mario called he wants his games back so basically sonic is open to millions of fanart and fan games while Mario's just like duh drep drep drep dont make anymore fanart or fan games about me ever again
What did they do? Bro do you even know about Puyo Puyo, Yakuza, Persona or even Sakura Wars?
@@Pych0t3ddy Nintendo is also guilty for that they created the Playstation...
@@cnk9822 None of those games, of course, being developed in-house... Just owned by Sega because goodness knows they know how to spot good games better than they know how to make 'em.
3:44 tails: *the day I lost my identity*
SHUT UP TAILS
-Sonic
Omg- 😂
Imagine sending your fangame online and Sega slams your door and like
"YOU'RE HIRED"
I wouldn't mind and I would hopefully try become a CEO of a part of the company and hopefully try convincing them to make another game console
Every time I see the same meme, I can basically think that the developers for Sonic Omens would’ve definitely gotten that opportunity.
@@TheSpartanODST844i would told sega to make sonic mania 2 lol
This is also why we see less Sonic advertisements than Mario, they get free advertising via fan games, art, remixes and even fan made stories. As for Nintendo.... *image of Mario using a Gatling gun shooting down random fangames*
Mario: It’s time to ban fan games and a chew Bubblegum
Also Mario: I’m a all outta gum
As for Nintendo... their games usually sell multiple times the amount any Sega game does.
fangame exists
nintendo: *this is not okie dokie*
guess they used more gun
Super Vocetubeia 64 sega are still on top in the gaming industry lol. series like persona, yakuza, hatsune miku and streets of rage are really successful at the moment, even sonic.
Sega: We approve of Sonic fangames. It shows that even with our ups and downs, Sonic will forever keep running.
Nintendo: *LOL NO*
Sega does what Nintendont
I've found you faker!
Well Fan Games are keeping Sonic alive. The games that did well lately by Sega were started by fans (Sonic mania, mobile Sonic remakes etc.). For Nintendo the games rather lower their sales because of the "why should i buy an official Nintendo game when i can just play this fanmade one" + Nintendo usually shuts down fangames only if they start making money
@D.K. J.M.
Faker? I think you're the fake fan around here. You're comparing yourself to me? Ha! You're not even good enough to by me fake.
@@jacklazzaro9820 ILL MAKE YOU EAT THOSE WORDS!
Honestly surprised that the whole " -Genesis- Sega does what Nintendon't" is *still* relevant to this day
Sega: Hires FANS to reboot Sonic and Streets of Rage
Capcom: Gives Fan-devs free Vacation to Japan and exclusive early access to Resident Evil 2 Remake
Nintendo: Sees fan-made tribute games "KILL IT WITH FIIRE!!!"
Moral of the story: Lighten up Nintendo! Don’t be the evil corporate menace that takes down passion projects like AM2R!
Peter Haywood unless if you have to pay for the fan game, then it could possibly hurt the company.
@@soniboo9202 while I do not approve of making someone pay for a game in which you don't own the IP (that's quite illegal btw)...
There is absolutely no way it will never hurt any company. They already make waaaaay too much money to lose anything in profit
You can't spell menace without EA.
@@soniboo9202 how do fan games hurt the company?
Bryan Rivera it’s Nintendo we don’t know
Sega: Literally made the best Sonic game ever because they collaborated with fans.
Nintendo: Literally terminated an entire TH-cam channel and countless people's dreams because the fans posted Nintendo music to listen for fun and made their own fan games
You're not getting the long term affects of sega's situation!
Rodrigo Morales what he is saying that even if you post the cover to Mario party 6 on your social media your “DONE” kiss that account goodbye
@@rodrigomorales563 yeah no, The TH-cam channel gave all credits to Nintendo and everyone with a normal brain would known Nintendo made it so why would it hurt them. Same with fangames etc
SEGA out there embracing fan creations meanwhile Nintendo ruins someones life because they wanted to play Mario 64 on PC
I mean, it's kinda illegal
probably because Nintendo might make a Super Mario 64 remake [it's a theory]
UltraPlushie technically, the only law the porters were breaking is copyright infringement. Since they remade the game from the ground up BUT did not directly copy any existing things from the original game (which means they recomposed the music, remade all of the textures, etc.), their only issue is the fact that it’s clearly a mario game, and all of the textures and music they redrew and recomposed are all clearly based on the original game’s copyrights. But that’s the same thing happening with SEGA fangames, if not even more copyright infringing than the Mario fangames, and yet SEGA still refuses to take them down. Sega really does what Nintendon’t in this case.
Dastanovich I mean, that’s more understandable than shutting down other fan games. Now I don’t know if the port your talking about is free or not but either no one will buy Mario 64 or a remaster of it (if one gets made) or They’ll get money for Nintendo’s work. As you can see, it’s bad for Nintendo both ways.
@@charliefunk3309 they made a remake 14 years ago and it's called Mario64DS
SEGA deserves a reward for turning fan remakes into real games.
They only did it with just one and that's about it, I'd rather let Sega follow their own path rather than listening to the wrong sonic fans that can easily destroy the sonic brand and destroy everything
i'll bake them a cake and send it to them
BET
As they said back in the 90s
Sega Does What Nintendon’t
Don't want to be that guy but it was "Genesis does what nintendon't"
@@fla5hbin142 You being that guy was funny, so thanks for being that guy
SEGA does what *_NintenDON'T._*
If only Nintendo could see that their fans are not threats to their IP, their community would blossom even more.
Last time they opened up we got Lou Albano and the CDi, both endless meme mines thanks to how bad they were
What kind of fantasy world do you people live/believe in?!
People already stan Nintendo as hard as hell so they already have a good fanbase.
Oh God stop using that dumbass quote already
@@rodrigomorales563 the real world, have you seen the amount of good nintnedo fangames, it's a gold mine of good content
Nintendo: Hey sega you better delete that sonic fangame, they stole ya stuff!
Sega: Nah im cool with it.
Nintendo: EXCUSE ME WTF!?
and yet still sega do what netendon't
Sega: They might still my stuff, but I approve them...And I hire them...Also, they were helping me.
Nintendo: I don't need help from those weird fans that likes fanfiction and other stuff.
Sega : and that's why so many your fans hate you for destroying their hard worked their fan games. They created a fan game to encourage and recognize you Nintendo.
Nintendo : Some of my fans still loves me and buy my games. Encourage? Recognizable? Oh Please , those are still my copyright stuff and they took it.
@@klortikterra4423As being a third party company that should follow their own path rather than listening to the wrong sonic fans that can destroy the sonic brand easily.
Remember what happened to sonic omens?
Sega: "No worries! Unlike Nintendo, we love your fangames! Keep at it!"
Fans: "So what about your other franchises besides Sonic? You own Atlus and Persona technically--"
Atlus: "Oh no, you will be shot on sight if you even think about touching our Persona."
SEGA really
“understand understand,
understand understand,
understand understand,
the concept of love (for their fans) huh!”
and yet no news on doing things with JSR...im sad.
How are you alive makoto
Mohammad Ahmad I’m alive as long as fans remember me and persona 3
Neat.
Nintendo: no fan games
Sega: yes fan games
I'm not Sega fan
But i really respect that
Sega has no console or quality games anymore, that’s why they like fan games and take them in as their own “sonic mania”
@@BigSmoke-xh5hi Yakusa wants to talk with you!
You wouldn't as much if you really understood the ins and outs of the situation.
@@BigSmoke-xh5hi still nicer than nInTenDo
Big Smoke sup main!
Nintendo: were sueing you for making a mario creation that is really good and better than our games it is illegal we are taking all of your money
Sega: your fangame is epic you put all your hard work to it people will really like your creation and you should keep it even if it's a fangame of our famous blue hedgehog
angry lolbit Relation with Rare and Nintendo in a nutshell.
Now that's just pettiness and no I'm not talking about the comment I'm talking about the way Nintendo reacts to Mario fan games
I know a lot of fans out there would think that if they make a Sonic fan game they would immediately get hired by Sega and I'm just here to say the truth that it's not that simple and it doesn't actually happen, The problem is Sega could easily approve and listen to the wrong Sonic fans that can easily destroy the sonic brand and destroy everything, Sonic is a brand and has to be protected at all costs.
If You've heard what happened with Sonic Omen then you know exactly what I'm talking about, I'd rather let Sega follow their own path rather than listening to the wrong Sonic fans or the toxic sonic fans of the toxic ungrateful sonic fandom, Sega DOESN'T care about It's fans or the fan games in reality and being hired immediately If you make a Sonic game doesn't really happen immediately
I like the Sonic fan games on the internet for free exactly the way they are and I rather have them only for free on the internet rather than letting them be approved by Sega, The Sonic brand must be protected from the wrong hands and the wrong Sonic fans that can destroy the sonic brand easily.
*I don't want another dark age of Sonic a fourth time.*
I see your point, your definitely correct about how SEGA should be more protective from toxic fans but the same time I’m definitely glad they a lot more chill with fan games
@@gachaevil1773 Exactly!
Honestly sega can’t lose anything, so why wouldn’t they let their fans help with work, while Nintendo is pretty big and honestly if you’ve seen what people have done I wouldn’t trust some of Nintendo’s fans.
Its kinda like VALVe, they encourage peoples fan work, and some of the time they actually hire people who make amazing fan games.
Yeah i dont trust nintendo fans much either.
I don't trust Nintendo neither
Sega has more to lose than you think.
very good point but....have you seen SEGA fan's stuff....they can be....disturbing....
I guess you can say that Sega really love fan work because it makes their work a bit easier.
Not really, they have to pay fans to make official games for them
Well if you will put it that way..
@@An_error_occurred. Considering what they did with Sonic in recent year without fan, I wouldn't call it lazy.
The fact that sonic mania's creators were fans who the got to make the ios and Android ports of sonic 1, 2 and cd then made sonic mania.
It's truly a one and a million thing to happen.
Everywhere I see you.
@UltraPlushie The reason why Sega can't do much with sonic 3 and knuckles is because they might get sued and lose a lot of money thanks to the fact that Micheal Jackson worked on the soundtrack and Sega kept it in without crediting him.
Nintendo: just play the actual game not this rip off fanmade
Sega: *shows love to sega*
"Sega does what nintendon't" never was so true
Go away Sonic fanboy!!!
@@atre5763 why are you in a sonic video then
@@luigifonzies2439 believe me, in almost all Sonic theme post there is at least one Mario fan saying garbage of him
"no copyright laws in the universe will stop me"
Sega's decision to mostly allow fan content and even hire some fans for their projects has improved the overall visibility of their Sonic brand by a significant amount, rendering it more relevant in the public mindshare than it's been in a long time, and even going a long way to improving their games, their comics, and even their Hollywood movie. And all of this despite their main studio dropping the ball last few years with Sonic Forces. It just goes to show that if you embrace your fans then they'll keep loving your properties right back and that the overall benefits of a more open policy tend to outweigh the downsides.
Not really necessary for Sega considering that Sonic fans are obsessive anyway
Sonic Forces wasn't that bad
sega is the "opposite day" of nintendo
also so many people did the nintendon't joke
i nintendon't do that :>
Yes, they care about fan projects, they have no console anymore and quality of games are not as great as Nintendo games.
@@JamesTheFoxeArt you gotta be the opposite all the way!
@@JamesTheFoxeArt the no consloe thing is something thry choose.Yeah not great games.Mania and team sonic racing say otherwise.
Good music, bad games. Nintendo is opposite.
@@sonichegehodge5778 but...nintendo has good music
SEGA: We love seeing our fans talents and creativity,
Nintendo: WE ARE THE DEVELOPERS HERE, NOT YOU..
Fans:Can I make a fan game ?
Sega:Of course
Nintendo: N O
xd
nintendo: whippity wort, see you in court
@@missingno2401 also Nintendo: Swiggity swash, give us the cash!
sega be like: its not a fangame anymore because you’re hired.
Heck with it, SEGA even appreciated the Sonic X Reanimated collab that people made
I believe that SEGA’s positive approval of having fans to help with them making into an official game is a huge opportunity for them
SEGA: Yes!
Nintendo: Delete this creator, we have Mario Maker
They weren't kidding when they said "Sega does what Ninten-don't".
I googled Mr Blobby. Heebie-jeebies.
Also: I truly love how Sega is one of the few Japan based companies that embraces it's fan base. Sonic has always had this sense of, "We know we had a rough patch, but we're still trying", and that's what I like about it, they keep trying.
Honestly I think Sega embraces fan games so much because they're desperate, and they know that fan games are their best chance
Sonic Mania was better received than Sonic Forces. Clearly there are fans that have a better idea of where to take Sonic than his own parent company.
Heck no.Team sonic racing.
Sega of Japan: Killed the Dreamcast and made very poor business decisions
Sega of America: Supports and works with fans to create awesome content (all within reason of course)
Don't forget...... '06
We will never forget.
@HONOR Yet Sony offered Sega a collaboration chance to make SEGA-Playstation Console in the past - look it up.
It is still valid that Sega were at fault for not allowing Sony to work with them for a video game console which by then had shown it's fangs when PS2 hit the stores.
Completely annihilating Dreamcast's sales.
I used to hold some kind of a misplaced grudge at Sony being the reason for Dreamcast's downfall, but i gotta admit that it's ( Sega ) their fault to begin with.
1:50 lol Doctor Who reference xD
Anyway jokes aside,Nintendo was always agressive towards the fans' fangames.For example Pokemon:Brick Bronze,it was the best game made on the ROBLOX engine and everyone even myself enjoyed it.But then Nintendo had to take it all away,SEGA on the other hand isnt like Nintendo,like Project Heroes,The Infinity Engine and Sonic Tripple Trouble 16-bit.I am glad the fans of the Sonic Community puts their effort in their hardwork and doesnt get taken down❤.
Edit:Ayyyy thumbnail changed
I had a good team and everything in brickbronze and they took it away.
Someone still remember...
RIP brick bronze
I wish it was still up.
i mean creators of brick bronze was making a lot of money off of nintendo even sega would take it down because they are making a lot of money off there property
I wish Nintendo would just do the same instead of just shutting down fan projects.
Let's hope other companies follow in Sega's footsteps and embrace fan projects.
Sega does what Nintendon't: Give love to fans and listening to them
I remind Sega that it was thanks to the fans that we have Sonic Mania and the Sonic redesign.
And Team Sonic Racing
Nintendo: Your fans made Sonic fan games. You better take them down like I do.
SEGA: *Your brain's even slower than your feet!*
I just love the way you draw these pictures!
Instead of criticizing their work, Sega learned to compromise with their fans!
Great choice, Sega! ; )
Bruh imagine if we got an official JSR made by fan devs.
I remember a time when SEGA kind of went against Fans a few years ago. Now they are fine with all sort of fan games.
"Why Sega Loves Fan Games"
*Points to Streets Of Rage Remake*
CrimsonDragoon
Pretty sure SORR asked for money, which a fangame isn't supposed to do.
Street of rage isn't sega's complete property unlike sonic,similar to bayonetta,sega IP but published by Nintendo so fans can't make bayonetta fan games.
You didn't watch the video did you?
Please watch the damn video before commenting...
@@Cinko420 no they didn't!
Fan games should be always allowed, if not made for monetary reasons. Good to hear once again that SEGA is cool with it. Not to mention that those collaborations with some fans were some big profitable projects for the company, too.
It's a good relationship that I hope continues and keeps bearing fruit.
2:21 TOO BAD!, i googled him and now i'm terrified 10/10 worth it
Any clues of why i shouldn't search it?
@@feefre
His voice.
Its honestly my dream
to work with SEGA
Nintendo: No You can't Make A Fan game of Our Properties, This will be shut down!
Sega: Great work on the fan game, Keep it up!
0:36 Sega really said that the day I came into existence
I think they like Fan Games because it's fans providing themselves and each other with content while Sonic Team (hopefully) gets to take their time creating the next official title. Plus, it ensures that their core audience will never let Sonic fall out of their consciousness since they'll often have new fan projects to play on a fairly consistent basis.
Also, eyyy. 3:59 I know where that quote came from!
Sega: Do you like fan...
Nintendo: We don’t do that around here.
1:42 - that happened on my birthday :D
The comment section is warming my heart. I'm loving seeing people talking about how loving Sega is to their fans
When you make a fan game
Sega: nice!
Nintendo: THIS IS NOT OKIE DOKIE
Nintendoes what segcan't and that is make quality games and a reason why they don't need support from fan games and profit better since Nintendo makes quality after quality game and fans trust Nintendo on it and I will still continue to support Nintendo.
Sega just relies on fan games because they can't make a good game and a fan game will just keep sonic relevant from the dead and ship out flop after flop after flop
@@maplemiles3381 you live a sad life huh?
@@maplemiles3381 yeah cause those new barebones game sure are quality. GEE 6 reused sports for $40!!!
Sega: Supports Fangames and Loves their community for liking the canon games even though some of them are bad
Nintendo: ( Sees a fangame thats making money ) No no no no no, get rid of the trash
Sega Does what Nintendont
Sega: you made this game? Well we would like to hire you for a project we are making! Thank you!
Nintendo: life in prison with no parole.
Capcom : You're making RE2 Remake fans project? That's cool,Now come help us! We're going to make greatest remake ever of the year!
SEGA : Fangame? Do it,Bro! It's show that you still love us!
Bethesda : You remake our games in Unity engine!? You remake our previous title in Skyrim's engine? Go forth,Do it!
Nintendo : *N* *O*
But joke aside,This is why I love SEGA. Even their games like Yakuza that made by RGG Studio is damn good. Also,They learned to appreciate fan and their fanmade.
Sega's transition from not liking fan games to loving fan games is like Piccolo's transition from evil to good.
Nobody:
The comment section: *overused joke from a 90s Sega commercial*
I can't really blame nintendo. They are just pretty strict and i can respect that. While other people are saying SEGA is instantly better because they allow fans to make games dedicated to sonic.
1990s views on sega: radical
2010s views on sega: bad. Really bad. Never good bad.
2020: respect 100
Note: SEGA loves their fanbase so much they added a Sanic tshirt to put on the players oc in sonic forces
Is actually really cool to see a big game studio respecting and approving his fans work
Nintendo: Do I a care that Sega loves fan games... No I do not.
Sega: *Yes!, You can do cool fangames with our mascot!.*
Nintendo: mone-NO! YOU CANT DO FANGAMES WITH *MY* MASCOT, *GET OUT* .
I don't think sega would still be here without christian whitehead and sonic mania, it was and still is the best sonic game since generations!
Your voice is really soothing, loved the video
Sooooo, to summarize it
Creative fans: "No copyright law is going to stop me! "
I think they could go much further with this. They should fund a lot more small teams like Lizard Cube, Games Atelier and Christian Whiteheads. They all have original ideas as well.
Another aspect to consider why Sega loves fangames is the fan base on its own ambitions not just creating new content and ideas. But also preserving Sonic history with mastery extensive documentations. Sonic is the only franchise I can see with so many Alphas/Beta roms well preserved and the Sonic games that Sega themselves cannot touch whether technical or legal reasons. After all, I can only see Sega being internally grateful for the fan base for keeping Sonic the Hedgehog 3 alive.
I’m pretty sure that one of the reasons that Sega loves fan games is because 1. They are less of a corporate entity and 2. The Dreamcast failed.
Sonic: ahaha fan games are allowed to be created!
Mario: *F*CK YOU NINTENDO FOR TRYING TO TAKE DOWN A PORT OF ONE OF MY BEST GAMES.*
The moral of the story is that Copyright should not be used as a means to restrict artistic expression, only to restrict what can and cannot be monetized for whom.
Nintendo: YOU CANT LET PEOPLE MAKE FAN GAMES OF YOUR MASCOT BECAUSE OF COPYRIGHT. YOU MUST SUE THEM ALL
Sega: no your just stupid
Now you're working with S-E-G-A, don't have to worry about D-M-C-A
Nintendo: Nooo! You can’t just let fans make their own games of your franchise, it’ll ruin it! Sega: haha sonic mania go brrrrrrrr
“Alright time to finish my ga-“
“That’s cool and all but your hired you start Monday”
SEGA: "You made this game? I better hope you come to work tomorrow!"
Nintendo: "You made this game? I better hope I see you in court!"
Valve: "You made this game? I better hope it isn't an absolute garbage!"
Konami: "You drew a picture of a Metal Gear Solid character? You better be in court!"
Imagine what would be SEGA's reaction would be if they saw a fan-game of all the scrapped zones restored but the creator created his own paths and ideas.
What are the scrapped zones? I'm really curious
@@sb14andmore50basically their just unused levels.