What do you guys expect? Proxies and counterfeits have risen due to the insane prices of cards. More and more players use them I see them all the time and frankly the newer generation of players care less about authentic vintage cards. Elitist spoiled “collectors” horde these cards and corner the market and make it impossible for new players and most players to be able to try and enjoy them in their decks. I have some Power 9 yet I don’t feel the need to treat this game as an investment everyone has the right to play Beta or Unlimited cards and if exact replicas are their only way then so be it.
@@vintagemagic I think the normal buyer is using 20x magnification and the few that do not are gamblers or we neglected to inform them. There is a group called Magic: The Gathering Counterfeit Detection. People post pictures, and people are asked to send pictures with high enough detail of the green dot, mana symbols and other details. Then its all about rosette patterns and registration and the extra solid black layer. They teach you the critical importance of being able to use a loupe. You are not being very educational here, implying the way to go is to crack cases and to then use known real examples to eyeball it. It is borderline deceptive. People look up to you and think they learned something, they think the way to go is to have tens of thousands of known real examples and exceptional eyesight, and you are withholding how easy it is to detect such a fake with a 7 dollar loupe that everyone needs to have. Its not even a good fake. A good fake is only detectable wih a loupe and passes your eyeball test. If you want to be educational, please show this under magnification and show people how to correctly use a 7 dollar 20x jewellers loupe. You can do better.
Thanks for helping the community learn about how to spot fakes.
you're welcome!
BGS HAS to stop it with the authentic altered as well. These grading companies need to step it up BIG TIME.
i agree, its confusing.
Wtf man that came right out of a money printer whith the prices these things fetch
lol
What do you guys expect? Proxies and counterfeits have risen due to the insane prices of cards. More and more players use them I see them all the time and frankly the newer generation of players care less about authentic vintage cards. Elitist spoiled “collectors” horde these cards and corner the market and make it impossible for new players and most players to be able to try and enjoy them in their decks.
I have some Power 9 yet I don’t feel the need to treat this game as an investment everyone has the right to play Beta or Unlimited cards and if exact replicas are their only way then so be it.
I cannot tell much with insufficient magnification. At first glance i always look with 20x. First glance should always be 20x.
i agree there is this magnification spotting, but to the normal buyer, these feel, look real. that is the major issue.
@@vintagemagic I think the normal buyer is using 20x magnification and the few that do not are gamblers or we neglected to inform them. There is a group called Magic: The Gathering Counterfeit Detection. People post pictures, and people are asked to send pictures with high enough detail of the green dot, mana symbols and other details. Then its all about rosette patterns and registration and the extra solid black layer. They teach you the critical importance of being able to use a loupe.
You are not being very educational here, implying the way to go is to crack cases and to then use known real examples to eyeball it. It is borderline deceptive. People look up to you and think they learned something, they think the way to go is to have tens of thousands of known real examples and exceptional eyesight, and you are withholding how easy it is to detect such a fake with a 7 dollar loupe that everyone needs to have.
Its not even a good fake. A good fake is only detectable wih a loupe and passes your eyeball test. If you want to be educational, please show this under magnification and show people how to correctly use a 7 dollar 20x jewellers loupe.
You can do better.
Let's see the fakes under a magnifying glass or something? Please.
send me a message, i'll send you the full rez scan.
@@vintagemagic Waiting for the email buddy 👍 cheers
8:34 Shivan Angel? Must be fake 😀
new card. very rare haha