I saw Sleeping Beauty in the theater when I was a child and when the dragon showed up I was literally hiding on the floor in terror. I've never seen anything that scary in any other Disney movie. I like the 7 Dwarves of course, they're among my favorite characters ever. But no other villain could touch that dragon.
If we're still lacking a poll for Dan v Brandon's poor taste, Dan not liking Ratatouille and Up gives him the poor-tasting crown. (As if there was doubt before this episode!) I bet he didn't like Wall-E either!
The only way I can see someone not liking ratatouille is thinking the central conceit (rat piloting a human like a meat mecha, somehow, completely unexplained) is childish rather than hilarious, and POSSIBLY that Remy deciding to betray Linguine's trust right at the end is possibly unnecessarily harsh. But I don't see how that can poison the entire movie THAT badly.
My favorite line from Snow White is when she cleans the dwarves' house. One of the dwarves complains while looking at his coffee mug, ☕ sugars gone. I love that line. The fact that it was all hand drawn blows me away.
Dan, having not actually read the book, I imagine the French stage adaptation Notre Dame de Paris rings fairly true. Most likely because it's still french. It ends with Esmerelda's death and Quasimodo has a big song about how they will find their two skeleton's enlaced together in death.
29:32 I love this exchange XD, it made me laugh. Brandon: "I loooove it" Dan: "Ratatoulie is worse than incredibles 2" Brandon" "It worse than incredibles 2?" Dan: "It worse than Cars 2" Brandon: "Nooo"
What About Bob isn't quite how you paint it. Richard Dreyfuss's character isn't all nice and perfect, he is a self-centered person who cares more about himself than his patients, wife, or kids, and Bill Murray, by being the way he is, shows this. I also put myself in as a character in movies or shows but with this movie I put myself as Bob rather than Dr. Leo Marvin.
Brandon has called it "Intentionally Blank" several times in other videos without comment. I think it's just a running joke within the podcast that they need to find a name (which fits the title).
Eh snow white is more about a feeling than any kind of complex plot. The emotional simplicity and how someone can be so pure (which i really dont think is unrealistic) that when an evil hearted person harms her, both her friends and nature itself rises to avenge her. In a way snow white is a goku. A flat character arc who affects others. It does have structural problems tho, its mostly mickey mouse shorts type of tangent animation, like the cleaning segment or washing segment. If you like those segments youll like the movie. I just think theyre fun I really like that.
So I think Dan is ranking Incredibles 2 better than Cars 2 better than Ratatouille better than Up. Mind blown. (If I remember he does adore WALL-E..... So I guess there is hope)
7:30 "So the question is, how many points do you give something for being a marvelous technological achievement for its time, when it compares in my opinion unfavorably to the other... movies that came out after it?" _laughs in James Cameron's Avatar_
I absolutely understand how critiquing movies is safer ground than books when it could adversely effect the authors. However, I was curious if Bran and Dan would be up for having a discussion about classic literature. They do such a great job pulling apart what makes a good story, why a story flops, etc that an in-depth look at why classics have endured and which ones are favorites would be neat to hear about! Thanks for these discussions! I don’t even watch many movies, and still strangely find these podcasts so compelling 😂🤷🏼♀️
Fantastic Beasts--it feels like the real selling point of this series of movies is that they are intended to be the prequel to the HP series, eventually leading up to Dumbledore's showdown with Grindelwald, but I don't think you find this out until near the end of the first film. Looking back I really enjoy the idea of expanding the HP world and exploring such an important time period we knew about from the series in a different medium (as well as seeing the wizarding world and culture in the United States during this time, and how it differed from Britain's wizarding world), but I feel like if I'd had that knowledge of how it tied into the main series going in, I would have been more invested in the first movie earlier on.
Actually the stage version of hunchback, in the epilogue, the narrators describe a malformed skeleton being discovered holding a female skeleton in the crypts of France. This is after Esmeralda dies from her sentence to be burned and Quasimodo "rescues" her, he then throws Frollo from the cathedral.
Story time. Over a decade ago I arranged to do a baby sitting swap with Dan and his wife I had one little angel baby who never cried and couldn't even walk and Dan had 3 or 4 kids who had lots of energy but figured with my vast parenting experience I would just be a pro at wrangling more kids anyhow. I was rudely awakened when the youngest girl randomly took a break from playing and came up right be side me to say hi and then just hardcore barfed on my jacket. That barf looked like exactly like a full sponge cupcake soaked in green soup. If I would have had the nerve to poke it I think it would have jiggled like jello. As I looked at the chubby blonde bundle of cute iI was sure that thing that came out of her was bigger than what I thought her stomach should have been. She bounded off to play again and didn't act sick the rest of the time. This experience is the only thing I can think about whenever I see or hear anything about Dan wells. I'm not into horror things in general but if I were I don't think I'd be able to read his books without that sensory memory making the horror of whatever he wrote even more horrific. The End
There is one fairly faithful adaptation of The Hunchback of Notre Dame, it's the French musical, "Notre-Dame de Paris." Very good music. Does not change the ending.
On the subject of Snow White's voice, we don't actually have that problem here in Sweden; seeing as how the voices for the oldest Disney movies have been redone and redubbed at least once, or maybe even twice over the years since the original; so renting/buying and watching Snow White with a Swedish dub, we do get to listen to a more modern sounding voice cast, which is probably for the best, all things considered :)
I dont know how either of you didnt have Ursula as the best/most evil Villain. She literally has a collection of transformed merpeople in her lair who cry in agony lol But also, I definitely agree, Snow White sucks.
The whole sequel trilogy is a series of interesting case studies in reacting to online criticism, and honestly I think proof a lot of that criticism misses the mark. TFA was reacting to criticism of the prequels, that they were full of boring politicking and lame dialogue. So the movie was kind of a remake of the original with more action scenes. They even go out of their way to designate a system where politics happens and then blow it up! In the original the destruction of Alderan is hugely personal to one of our main characters, in TFA it's just done to say "This isn't the prequels we promise!" TLJ (while I do love it) is a response to the criticism of TFA. What were the biggest complaints about TFA? "Rey is a Mary Sue" and "Its just a remake of new hope". The movie basically goes down the list of Mary Sue traits and tries to disqualify them, she spends most of the movie training, being insulted and rejected by a former main character, failing, and then getting saved by (who ends up being) the ultimate villain of the film. And the movie goes in a radically different direction plotwise from the originals, as if to assure us it isn't also "just a remake". I don't even have to get into Rise of Skywalker, like it literally undoes Kylos arc from the last movie in the first scene, and flat out retcons the most criticized plot points of TLJ. You are right on the mark about there being lots of great little moments in Rise of Skywalker, that ultimately add up to less than the sum of their parts. In addition to what you said, I love how it takes the idea of their force bond further, they showed that water could transfer through it in TLJ, so they have a cool moment where Kylo uses it to steal something from Rey and use it to track them down. Then they take it even farther and have them fight via astral projection! I did love the scene with Harrison Ford and Adam Driver's performance as you said, and I think that's as close they could have gotten to selling his redemption given they had already wasted so much time by throwing away what had happened in the last movie.
10:24 "You need to watch Lindsay Ellis' Little Mermaid essay" - Brandon Sanderson Here is the video: th-cam.com/video/NeuLEu9ZePc/w-d-xo.html The voice of Snow White (Adriana Caselotti) was not allowed to be used in anything else. Her future career was background singing in "The Wizard of Oz" and "It's a Wonderful Life". She was never in credits of any movie.
@@BrandSanderson You mentioned Lindsay's video; I provided link. No worries about Snow White's voice because Disney killed her acting career to protect Snow White.
"Is Little Mermaid worse than Hunchback" No way. Even if I wasn't biased and Hunchback wasn't my favorite Disney movie (it is), it would still be better than Little Mermaid. Little Mermaid has, like, two good things going for it. Ursula is great and Sebastian is great. I didn't enjoy anything outside of those. Hunchback has one bad thing. The gargoyles don't take away enough quality from the movie in my opinion. They're awful, but they're not bad enough to ruin the movie
Brandon is SO right about Ratatouille and Dan is SO wrong lol. It's easily one of Pixar's best films, and I'm honestly shocked that Dan can't at least appreciate how good the storytelling is even if he didn't personally enjoy it.
FINALLY SOMEBODY ELSE SAYS THAT INCREDIBLES 2 WAS BAD! The first 4 minutes of that film were great. The rest is terrible. Jack-Jack-ex-machina. Dash (my favorite character) almost never used his super-speed to its full extent. The entire resolution of the first film is pushed aside. It's just awful.
I thought some of the scenes with Bob taking care of the kids were enjoyable but yeah the movie was pretty bad. I thought the twist was less interesting than if it was played straight
Yeah I agree. I think that Bob's arc in the first film was completely disregarded and there isn't any coherent theme. There are some individual scenes that are good (I do love Frozone trying to save the kids from the other supers before getting mind controlled himself. Excellent sequence.) But overall it's kind of a mess of a movie.
I think the action scenes are pretty solid, and I enjoyed the final sequence where it’s the kids who have to come up with a plan. But yeah the story is so all over the place.
Ok, those sure were quite some hot takes, since I disagree with almost everything. :P Not with the main principle, though, I think all of those movies are probably unreasonably highly rated, to at least some extent. The rest, I suppose, means I have rather diffrent taste to that of Brandon's. For instance, I agree _Indiana Jones: The Crystal Skull_ has some over the top scenes, but so do the previous movies of the series. I don't have any reference point to the effects of a (nuclear) detonation, so any implausability in the Fridge scene is beyond my knowledge. Meanwhile, the Stukas (in the _Last Crusade,_ I recall) only using their machine guns _after_ the heroes have gone inside the cave is at least equally immersion-breaking to me. And as someone from a country that was invaded by Soviets - even more so than by the Nazis - I have no problem treating the Soviet mooks at least as expendable as their German equivalents. (Especially since said war showed their own leadership considering them quite expendable too.) _The fantastic Beasts,_ was ok to me, although I watched it in 3 parts from a streaming service, so I guess it was more of a mini series to me. Perhaps that's what made it work. The Disney Princess movies are a topic of their own, but I'll say I'm not too fond of Moana's music and prefer at least _Tangled_ and _Frozen_ (even if Let it go has been beaten to death and back by this point, there are quite a few other good songs as well) to it. To be honest, I might even consider _Brave_ more musically appealing than _Moana,_ although that might be just due to having been exposed to the former way more. And while we're at it, there are 2 great songs in _The Snow White_ that I remember (and one good that I don't remember), while I only remember one kinda good song from _Moana._ But that's all taste, I guess. _The Incredibles 2,_ I think, while definitely not on pare with the first one in pretty much any aspect, was still an okay movie and a rather good one for a Disney sequel (which isn't that high of a bar, to be real). And while I also agree it was the first one again with a bunch of altered details, I'd still argue those alterations were enough to justify a completely new movie. The new point of view worked for me and actually provided some of the greatest comedy in it - not the bumbling father but the mom who answers to calls from and about home in the middle of a the busiest workday. It's funny 'cause it's true. My only real problem with it is how the villain got revealed and the hero captured both for incredibly stupid reasons. And if wouldn't have even dragged the narrative to give them better reasons. I can only imagine it would've dragged the production to give the writers enough time to come up with something better. I kinda agree with most of the points about the Star Wars sequels*, although I must point out I did like the prequels better when I was at the target audience age. I'm of the generation who grew up with the prequels so they'll always be dear to me, so I'm probably biased. But my kid sister, who first watched every Star Wars film with an episode number within the same month, also liked the prequel trilogy the best.
*And here's the obligatory rant: To me, _The Force Awakens_ felt like the whole universe was conspiring to recreate the original Star Wars movie as closely as possible: The rebel victory was undone and a new insane planetary weapon built. A fallen jedi with a mask and temperament problems captured (without killing) a hopelessly back fighting brat, who in turn used a quirky astromech droid for delivering crusial info - via a desert planet - to other rebels. A group of misfits - consisting of an orphaned aspirin jedi from the desert planet, a morally dubious guy and a grey-haired legend - was assembled for the delivery, after which they headed for space, gun, and sword fighting on the superweapon, having the old legend killed and finally blowing up the place (but not the masked villain). I think it might have been a good movie if the original Star Wars didn't exist, but since a most of its non-disney-cartoonish comedy comes from references to that film, I don't know... It's not really a bad movie but... meh. The soundtrack was nice, though. Probably the best part. The other sequels had kinda the same issue. They felt too much like re-painted and little rearranged copies of the original trilogy that would've been less jarring without the original trilogy. And what didn't fell like such, felt like a Disney cartoon with all the animal companions and Disney deaths.
Dan has range, man!!!! I love how he’s critiquing Disney movies, when he writes such dark stuff. Just listened to “I am not a Serial Killer” and wooooweeee. It was intense. It was fantastic, ......but..... j/k, it was simply fantastic.And unique. But wow, it was one intense dark fantasy thriller detective psychological novel! Lol, now I’m hearing him talk about hunchback and he’s in his element!
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I always have a greater time watching Crystal Skull than Doom Temple to be honest. A lot of thing that we criticise about the fourth could be said about the second. Talking about the ridiculousness of rope swinging, car fencing and aliens ? How about that dinner session or the tunnel roller coaster ? Plus the love interest was soooo annoying.
You know, as far as Dan not liking Up...I have thoughts. I left Up with a bad taste in my mouth. There was so much to like about it. Not just in the first fifteen minutes, but all throughout the movie but here's what ruined it for me. It might be the anti-PETA side of me, but I found myself so resentful of the subplot of "We have to save the bird!" All throughout I wanted to scream, "Let the Howard Hughes guy have the stupid bird!" If you'll remember, the villain was wrongly called a fraud for faking the bird skeleton, and I felt he deserved to clear his name. I cared so much more about Carl being able to deliver the house to waterfall, and I resented the movie when it tried to frame his ultimate arrival as unsatisfying. I should add I see what they were getting at, and if you gave me the broad strokes, I would say it sounds good, but I really think the execution was deeply muddled. It's funny, because I saw the movie with my mom and she had almost the exact same opinion, and yet I've never heard anyone else bring up these problems.
Disney did Han Solo so dirty with the Solo movie that it's inexcusable. They had the chance to tell a really interesting and compelling origin story for one of the, if not the, most beloved character in the franchise and Solo is what we got?
NGL, I'm a little blown away by Brandon's take on The Little Mermaid. It is, quite literally, Teenager Does Stupid Things: The Story. Everything she does is misguided and puts her life in danger. Had she gotten what she wanted immediately, Ursula would have retained control of everything and likely eventually killed everyone in her domain. Hell, in the original version of the story, she DOES die for her stupidity, because she never got the prince to desire her to begin with.
I guess I that is why I love "What About Bob?" I have always watched it as a dark comedy. This psycho takes over a family from one of the world's leading psychiatrists. It's amazingly evil. I like it a lot. Similar to "Drop Dead Fred". A terrifying look into a literal insane person's life. "Drop Dead Fred" is a very dark movie that is often played for laughs. But knowing what we know now (know better?) about mental health. Both of these movies are terrifying. And funny.
I thought Fantastic Beasts was mediocre and too slow but I still was able to enjoy it. The second one is way worse in every regard. It was pretty incredible, actually.
I didn't know Dan had a B5 blog, I'll have to read along as I continue my rewatch. It will be interesting to see the series from a less positive perspective than my own.
I worked just next door to the distillery where the Bourbon heist took place, actually walking within 10 feet of open warehouse doors at times (on the backside of the warehouse which wasn't even one of their shipping exits). I wasn't surprised by the theft at all, security always seemed lax. After it happened I never saw those doors open again :D
You talked about heartbreak on the Incredibles 2. I think that's why I have such an irrational dislike nearing hatred for the sequels. The original Trilogy was everything to us growing up. To see it treated so poorly was a slap in the face. I couldn't even make it past the 15 minute mark in 9. I think it's also why I like the Mandalorian more than it really deserves. Because it's so clearly made by someone who actually cares about Star Wars.
The problem with 7th was that it was completely unoriginal, 8th felt like one good movie mixed with one bad and one mediocre movie and the 9th was just completely stupid.
The sympathetic character in Freddy Got Fingered is the filmmaker. I like that the filmmaker convinced someone to pay MILLIONS OF DOLLARS for this absurdist story. That joke NEVER gets old for me.
Dan I don't hate Solo, but it was my least favorite. Getting to see Yoda cut loose and eventually fight the Emperor (he didn't lose, just ran out of time) were the pay off of the Prequals. I love that Rey has a yellow light saber and I want to see more of the Sequels because they feel unfinished to me.
Why? Just curious as I hate Fantastic Beasts with a passion. I felt like we could have gotten a magical Adventure in the vein of Indiana Jones, exploring lost worlds and far away places in pursuit of magical creatures (kind of like Pokémon lol). But instead we got this... bloated drama set in New York with a guy that can’t handle dangerous animals.
@@christianbjorck816 when you put it like that I can see the disconnect. And I would've been happy with a hint of that. I didn't see Newt as being incapable just inexperienced. I liked the time period and that whole aesthetic plus the characters were charming. I don't know, I just really enjoyed the whole experience.
@@christianbjorck816 that to me sounds like a problem with your expectations. When and who set up those promises that were never delivered upon? Not living up a personally perceived potential that was never promised does not really constitute a bad movie. To list some of the things I liked: The characters and there interactions The hyjinx of the klepto monster The reveal of the boy as the powerful one that was being searched for the whole time, even though you were made to believe it was his little sister.
"Magical Beasts-" Me: Sounds kind of familiar... "and where to find them." Me: You did not just do that. You can criticise it - I'd disagree for the first one - but do NOT disrespect it. PLEASE at least get the name right.
Wreck it Ralph 2 (Ralph wrecks the Internet) breaks my heart. I am so fond of the first movie, so it hurt me almost to the point of physical illness me to watch the 2nd film meander painfully to a boring mess of a duster fire.
I can see how you might interpret "What About Bob?" that way. I think I never interpreted it so...horrifyingly? because Leo Marvin's family actually DOES love Leo; Fay is legitimately concerned when the interview doesn't go well and purposely tries to make the birthday party great BECAUSE she cares; when Siggy dives, the first person he excitedly yells to IS Leo; the whole family agrees to turn Bob out of the house when they realize how much Leo really dislikes him; etc. Leo, who as a psychiatrist is supposed to be the emotionally healthy one, refuses to voice, even sometimes admit to himself, his own emotions. He always claims he doesn't get angry, and refuses to honestly tell his kids what he is feeling and why (his conversation at the marina with Anna is very telling, since he refuses to talk without the puppets, a tool that is supposed to make honest communication easier, and yet he uses it to try to control Anna rather than communicate honestly and turns the conversation into a comparison between himself and Bob; Anna never once compares them, it's Leo who takes her statements about Bob as a reflections on himself). Bob is the perfect foil because he always says exactly what he is feeling and what his needs are. He obviously doesn't know the first thing about healthy boundaries, and I can see why that would turn you off, but he never purposely "steals" anything from Leo; beyond showing up at the lake, everything else happens purely by coincidence. I would argue that what really drives Leo mad is his own interpretation of events as proving that Bob is better than he is, when in reality, there is no reason for him to think that. No one actually thinks Leo is a schmuck BUT Leo (and the Gutmans). That movie seems to be one of those love it or hate it ones, since I have friends who love it, and friends who hate it.
fantastic beasts also makes some interesting implications about what happens when magical people can’t use their magic….and yet that seems to be the main punishment at hogwarts…see hagrid and every movie where the try and kick harry out of school
Hunchback is one of the most underrated Disney movies of the 1990s, which maybe isn't saying much since it's an amazing time period of Disney animated movies. Also, What About Bob is hilarious. I had the same reaction that Brandon had, it was so weird and strange, but then you just get into it and it's so funny. Much like Napoleon Dynamite, the first watch was unbearable, but after that I understood the nature of the show and thought it was really funny.
It’s too bad a studio like Dreamworks didn’t do Hunchback in the same era they made Prince of Egypt. Felt like they could handle the serious material without making it ”silly” or ”funny”. They could deliver banger music too.
The Office doesn't really rely on "annoying people being annoying" (said with a humourless sour face). It is really relatively amusing or odd people being annoying to each other for comedy. One might like some of them more or less, that's normal, but it's mostly still fun. (I would say the US version tries to be more "warm", whereas the original British version requires more of a neutral detachment. It's just entertainment, one can figure it out.) There are some really unsympathetic statements and stances in this video. Or I guess two I mentioned.
I think the one thing that really destroyed Harlan Ellison's reputation more than anything else was his failure to work on "Last Dangerous Visions." He was so obsessed with people paying him properly for his work, and respecting his work, and yet he did not treat other authors' work so seriously.
I'm with Brandon that Snow White is quite basic and empty given everything we've had since, but i'm with Dan that it deserves to be more beloved than Brandon's giving it credit for. I'm with Brandon that Incredibles 2 breaks my heart that its not good. My partner loved the comedy, my sister bought me the dvd, I came out of it just baffled the story goes nowhere. Most pixar sequels have Disney Sequel syndrome but such better animation that i think its harder to notice. I'm with Dan in that I could never get passed "man cooks well through magic puppet hair" but i'm with Brandon that everything else about it is great storytelling. I was with dan on the aliens not being so bad in concept, and had a whole thing about 4's worst problem being everything feels fake, but Brandon hit that with the point that everything feels grounded in the others. Personally, i found the first Fantastic Beasts really mixed. Like literally two stories, the beasts enjoyable but the grindlewald plot not, and the second film doubled down on the worst elements. Its one of the only films I've watched (like brandon said, at home but pay to view) where I hated it, stopped watching, tried again the next day (because maybe it gets better), stopped a second time, and never went back. So didnt even get to the point where credence is a dumbledore without youtube warning me it got Worse.
I would be curious to hear Brandon's thoughts on the "if it came out now without context" view for classic sci-fi/fantasy. For example, I'm not sure how well Asimov or Frank Herbert would hold up under that lens, even though both wrote indisputable classics of the genre.
I don't know, what I've read of Dune still holds up and almost reads like a modern sci-fi adventure. Maybe that changes later on though as I'm still early in the book.
dan: how is sleeping beauty better than snow white ??
brandon: ✨DRAGON✨
He's not wrong, lol!
*Dragon being slain👍🏻
I repeated that for 5 mins straight. That was golden rofl.
Agreed. Maleficent is the best
I saw Sleeping Beauty in the theater when I was a child and when the dragon showed up I was literally hiding on the floor in terror. I've never seen anything that scary in any other Disney movie. I like the 7 Dwarves of course, they're among my favorite characters ever. But no other villain could touch that dragon.
"It's not a tragedy like, y'know, The Emoji Movie or something."
That off-hand comment felt like a drive-by shooting.
I regret that I have but one like to give.
@@palak8742 how have i never heard or thought this before?
Brandon and Dan ranking disney princesses is something i didnt know i needed
My favorite is Tyanna
Yy
Dan: i don't want to rip on movies, I only happy
Also Dan: RATATOUILLE SUCKS
Also also Dan: UP IS BAD TOO!!!
I'm am on Brandon's side 100%. Dan really didn't explain why: 'the movie is bad because it is bad'
Tangled’s “I See The Light” is an amazing song.
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I'm sorry, but when I read "I see the light" I can only think of "The Last Goodbye" from Billy Boyd.
If we're still lacking a poll for Dan v Brandon's poor taste, Dan not liking Ratatouille and Up gives him the poor-tasting crown. (As if there was doubt before this episode!) I bet he didn't like Wall-E either!
Doesn't he have a heart? How can someone not like Wall-E?!
But Ratatouille is like the 2nd best Pixar movie! The humanity!
The only way I can see someone not liking ratatouille is thinking the central conceit (rat piloting a human like a meat mecha, somehow, completely unexplained) is childish rather than hilarious, and POSSIBLY that Remy deciding to betray Linguine's trust right at the end is possibly unnecessarily harsh. But I don't see how that can poison the entire movie THAT badly.
Ratatouille is my number one for what embodies living a artist lifestyle
I hated UP. 🤷♀️ It was sooooooo boring.
Ratatouille is great! Kung Pow is better though.
I'm on this train.
Kung Pow remains the single movie I’ve walked out of the theater on.
It makes me so happy that they both love Tangled. It's not only my favorite Disney movie, but probably my favorite movie overall
I hope you’re a kid because otherwise that’s embarrassing
@@reginaldforthright805 I hope you're a kid because otherwise, what you just said is embarrassing.
My favorite line from Snow White is when she cleans the dwarves' house. One of the dwarves complains while looking at his coffee mug, ☕ sugars gone. I love that line. The fact that it was all hand drawn blows me away.
Dan, having not actually read the book, I imagine the French stage adaptation Notre Dame de Paris rings fairly true. Most likely because it's still french. It ends with Esmerelda's death and Quasimodo has a big song about how they will find their two skeleton's enlaced together in death.
I think this is my favorite episode. Love it when you guys talk about storytelling and fiction and you guys spent the whole time doing that.
"Do you hate the Iron Giant, do you have no soul?" Cold Brandon has Arisen!
29:32 I love this exchange XD, it made me laugh.
Brandon: "I loooove it"
Dan: "Ratatoulie is worse than incredibles 2"
Brandon" "It worse than incredibles 2?"
Dan: "It worse than Cars 2"
Brandon: "Nooo"
What About Bob isn't quite how you paint it. Richard Dreyfuss's character isn't all nice and perfect, he is a self-centered person who cares more about himself than his patients, wife, or kids, and Bill Murray, by being the way he is, shows this. I also put myself in as a character in movies or shows but with this movie I put myself as Bob rather than Dr. Leo Marvin.
And I will forever reference this podcast as “intentionally blank” and I hope you guys stop kidding yourselves and just officially name it that!
I believe they are going with intentionally blank but just pretending to still be looking for a name.
Brandon has called it "Intentionally Blank" several times in other videos without comment. I think it's just a running joke within the podcast that they need to find a name (which fits the title).
Eh snow white is more about a feeling than any kind of complex plot. The emotional simplicity and how someone can be so pure (which i really dont think is unrealistic) that when an evil hearted person harms her, both her friends and nature itself rises to avenge her. In a way snow white is a goku. A flat character arc who affects others. It does have structural problems tho, its mostly mickey mouse shorts type of tangent animation, like the cleaning segment or washing segment. If you like those segments youll like the movie. I just think theyre fun
I really like that.
So I think Dan is ranking Incredibles 2 better than Cars 2 better than Ratatouille better than Up. Mind blown. (If I remember he does adore WALL-E..... So I guess there is hope)
Love from India! You guys both rock.
7:30 "So the question is, how many points do you give something for being a marvelous technological achievement for its time, when it compares in my opinion unfavorably to the other... movies that came out after it?"
_laughs in James Cameron's Avatar_
I wonder how he’d rate the acropolis.
Kung Pao is phenomenal, I love it every time I watch
How Hunchback EVER made it to Disney animation I will never know.
I absolutely understand how critiquing movies is safer ground than books when it could adversely effect the authors. However, I was curious if Bran and Dan would be up for having a discussion about classic literature. They do such a great job pulling apart what makes a good story, why a story flops, etc that an in-depth look at why classics have endured and which ones are favorites would be neat to hear about!
Thanks for these discussions! I don’t even watch many movies, and still strangely find these podcasts so compelling 😂🤷🏼♀️
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Eddie Redmayne is only 5 years younger than Dan.
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Fantastic Beasts--it feels like the real selling point of this series of movies is that they are intended to be the prequel to the HP series, eventually leading up to Dumbledore's showdown with Grindelwald, but I don't think you find this out until near the end of the first film. Looking back I really enjoy the idea of expanding the HP world and exploring such an important time period we knew about from the series in a different medium (as well as seeing the wizarding world and culture in the United States during this time, and how it differed from Britain's wizarding world), but I feel like if I'd had that knowledge of how it tied into the main series going in, I would have been more invested in the first movie earlier on.
Actually the stage version of hunchback, in the epilogue, the narrators describe a malformed skeleton being discovered holding a female skeleton in the crypts of France. This is after Esmeralda dies from her sentence to be burned and Quasimodo "rescues" her, he then throws Frollo from the cathedral.
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Story time. Over a decade ago I arranged to do a baby sitting swap with Dan and his wife I had one little angel baby who never cried and couldn't even walk and Dan had 3 or 4 kids who had lots of energy but figured with my vast parenting experience I would just be a pro at wrangling more kids anyhow. I was rudely awakened when the youngest girl randomly took a break from playing and came up right be side me to say hi and then just hardcore barfed on my jacket. That barf looked like exactly like a full sponge cupcake soaked in green soup. If I would have had the nerve to poke it I think it would have jiggled like jello. As I looked at the chubby blonde bundle of cute iI was sure that thing that came out of her was bigger than what I thought her stomach should have been. She bounded off to play again and didn't act sick the rest of the time. This experience is the only thing I can think about whenever I see or hear anything about Dan wells. I'm not into horror things in general but if I were I don't think I'd be able to read his books without that sensory memory making the horror of whatever he wrote even more horrific. The End
Incredibles 1 is the best Fantastic Four movie ever made.
All superhero films are trash
There is one fairly faithful adaptation of The Hunchback of Notre Dame, it's the French musical, "Notre-Dame de Paris." Very good music. Does not change the ending.
Yes! I love the French musical version!!
my favorite part about snow white is how the prince appears at the end and is like, “wow, that’s a hot dead girl- finders keepers!”
I will defend Kung Pow until the day I die.
On the subject of Snow White's voice, we don't actually have that problem here in Sweden; seeing as how the voices for the oldest Disney movies have been redone and redubbed at least once, or maybe even twice over the years since the original; so renting/buying and watching Snow White with a Swedish dub, we do get to listen to a more modern sounding voice cast, which is probably for the best, all things considered :)
I dont know how either of you didnt have Ursula as the best/most evil Villain.
She literally has a collection of transformed merpeople in her lair who cry in agony lol
But also, I definitely agree, Snow White sucks.
If you’re not a child and you still like Disney Pixar I don’t know what to tell you. They all suck. The only thing worth examining is the animation.
I must insist - The Little Mermaid has the BEST songs of all time. The G.O.A.T., if you will.
The whole sequel trilogy is a series of interesting case studies in reacting to online criticism, and honestly I think proof a lot of that criticism misses the mark.
TFA was reacting to criticism of the prequels, that they were full of boring politicking and lame dialogue. So the movie was kind of a remake of the original with more action scenes. They even go out of their way to designate a system where politics happens and then blow it up! In the original the destruction of Alderan is hugely personal to one of our main characters, in TFA it's just done to say "This isn't the prequels we promise!"
TLJ (while I do love it) is a response to the criticism of TFA. What were the biggest complaints about TFA? "Rey is a Mary Sue" and "Its just a remake of new hope". The movie basically goes down the list of Mary Sue traits and tries to disqualify them, she spends most of the movie training, being insulted and rejected by a former main character, failing, and then getting saved by (who ends up being) the ultimate villain of the film. And the movie goes in a radically different direction plotwise from the originals, as if to assure us it isn't also "just a remake".
I don't even have to get into Rise of Skywalker, like it literally undoes Kylos arc from the last movie in the first scene, and flat out retcons the most criticized plot points of TLJ.
You are right on the mark about there being lots of great little moments in Rise of Skywalker, that ultimately add up to less than the sum of their parts. In addition to what you said, I love how it takes the idea of their force bond further, they showed that water could transfer through it in TLJ, so they have a cool moment where Kylo uses it to steal something from Rey and use it to track them down. Then they take it even farther and have them fight via astral projection! I did love the scene with Harrison Ford and Adam Driver's performance as you said, and I think that's as close they could have gotten to selling his redemption given they had already wasted so much time by throwing away what had happened in the last movie.
I'm with Dan on Ratatouille, both in not liking it, and in not knowing how to articulate why. I think I just didn't like Remy as a character.
10:24 "You need to watch Lindsay Ellis' Little Mermaid essay" - Brandon Sanderson
Here is the video:
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The voice of Snow White (Adriana Caselotti) was not allowed to be used in anything else. Her future career was background singing in "The Wizard of Oz" and "It's a Wonderful Life". She was never in credits of any movie.
I did watch it! It is great. I think I might have recorded this just before, but can't remember. She might have had an influence on what I was saying.
@@BrandSanderson You mentioned Lindsay's video; I provided link. No worries about Snow White's voice because Disney killed her acting career to protect Snow White.
"Is Little Mermaid worse than Hunchback"
No way. Even if I wasn't biased and Hunchback wasn't my favorite Disney movie (it is), it would still be better than Little Mermaid. Little Mermaid has, like, two good things going for it. Ursula is great and Sebastian is great. I didn't enjoy anything outside of those. Hunchback has one bad thing. The gargoyles don't take away enough quality from the movie in my opinion. They're awful, but they're not bad enough to ruin the movie
Brandon is SO right about Ratatouille and Dan is SO wrong lol. It's easily one of Pixar's best films, and I'm honestly shocked that Dan can't at least appreciate how good the storytelling is even if he didn't personally enjoy it.
FINALLY SOMEBODY ELSE SAYS THAT INCREDIBLES 2 WAS BAD!
The first 4 minutes of that film were great. The rest is terrible. Jack-Jack-ex-machina. Dash (my favorite character) almost never used his super-speed to its full extent. The entire resolution of the first film is pushed aside. It's just awful.
I thought some of the scenes with Bob taking care of the kids were enjoyable but yeah the movie was pretty bad. I thought the twist was less interesting than if it was played straight
Yeah I agree. I think that Bob's arc in the first film was completely disregarded and there isn't any coherent theme. There are some individual scenes that are good (I do love Frozone trying to save the kids from the other supers before getting mind controlled himself. Excellent sequence.) But overall it's kind of a mess of a movie.
@@cbpd89 that frozone scene was also my favorite (other than the first scene)
I think the action scenes are pretty solid, and I enjoyed the final sequence where it’s the kids who have to come up with a plan. But yeah the story is so all over the place.
Still waiting for Tangled video essay
Ok, those sure were quite some hot takes, since I disagree with almost everything. :P
Not with the main principle, though, I think all of those movies are probably unreasonably highly rated, to at least some extent. The rest, I suppose, means I have rather diffrent taste to that of Brandon's.
For instance, I agree _Indiana Jones: The Crystal Skull_ has some over the top scenes, but so do the previous movies of the series. I don't have any reference point to the effects of a (nuclear) detonation, so any implausability in the Fridge scene is beyond my knowledge. Meanwhile, the Stukas (in the _Last Crusade,_ I recall) only using their machine guns _after_ the heroes have gone inside the cave is at least equally immersion-breaking to me. And as someone from a country that was invaded by Soviets - even more so than by the Nazis - I have no problem treating the Soviet mooks at least as expendable as their German equivalents. (Especially since said war showed their own leadership considering them quite expendable too.)
_The fantastic Beasts,_ was ok to me, although I watched it in 3 parts from a streaming service, so I guess it was more of a mini series to me. Perhaps that's what made it work.
The Disney Princess movies are a topic of their own, but I'll say I'm not too fond of Moana's music and prefer at least _Tangled_ and _Frozen_ (even if Let it go has been beaten to death and back by this point, there are quite a few other good songs as well) to it. To be honest, I might even consider _Brave_ more musically appealing than _Moana,_ although that might be just due to having been exposed to the former way more. And while we're at it, there are 2 great songs in _The Snow White_ that I remember (and one good that I don't remember), while I only remember one kinda good song from _Moana._ But that's all taste, I guess.
_The Incredibles 2,_ I think, while definitely not on pare with the first one in pretty much any aspect, was still an okay movie and a rather good one for a Disney sequel (which isn't that high of a bar, to be real). And while I also agree it was the first one again with a bunch of altered details, I'd still argue those alterations were enough to justify a completely new movie. The new point of view worked for me and actually provided some of the greatest comedy in it - not the bumbling father but the mom who answers to calls from and about home in the middle of a the busiest workday. It's funny 'cause it's true. My only real problem with it is how the villain got revealed and the hero captured both for incredibly stupid reasons. And if wouldn't have even dragged the narrative to give them better reasons. I can only imagine it would've dragged the production to give the writers enough time to come up with something better.
I kinda agree with most of the points about the Star Wars sequels*, although I must point out I did like the prequels better when I was at the target audience age. I'm of the generation who grew up with the prequels so they'll always be dear to me, so I'm probably biased. But my kid sister, who first watched every Star Wars film with an episode number within the same month, also liked the prequel trilogy the best.
*And here's the obligatory rant:
To me, _The Force Awakens_ felt like the whole universe was conspiring to recreate the original Star Wars movie as closely as possible: The rebel victory was undone and a new insane planetary weapon built. A fallen jedi with a mask and temperament problems captured (without killing) a hopelessly back fighting brat, who in turn used a quirky astromech droid for delivering crusial info - via a desert planet - to other rebels. A group of misfits - consisting of an orphaned aspirin jedi from the desert planet, a morally dubious guy and a grey-haired legend - was assembled for the delivery, after which they headed for space, gun, and sword fighting on the superweapon, having the old legend killed and finally blowing up the place (but not the masked villain). I think it might have been a good movie if the original Star Wars didn't exist, but since a most of its non-disney-cartoonish comedy comes from references to that film, I don't know... It's not really a bad movie but... meh.
The soundtrack was nice, though. Probably the best part.
The other sequels had kinda the same issue. They felt too much like re-painted and little rearranged copies of the original trilogy that would've been less jarring without the original trilogy. And what didn't fell like such, felt like a Disney cartoon with all the animal companions and Disney deaths.
Dan has range, man!!!! I love how he’s critiquing Disney movies, when he writes such dark stuff. Just listened to “I am not a Serial Killer” and wooooweeee. It was intense. It was fantastic, ......but..... j/k, it was simply fantastic.And unique. But wow, it was one intense dark fantasy thriller detective psychological novel! Lol, now I’m hearing him talk about hunchback and he’s in his element!
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I've been waiting for this for a long, long time.
I always have a greater time watching Crystal Skull than Doom Temple to be honest. A lot of thing that we criticise about the fourth could be said about the second. Talking about the ridiculousness of rope swinging, car fencing and aliens ? How about that dinner session or the tunnel roller coaster ? Plus the love interest was soooo annoying.
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Animated Mulan would be my favorite Disney Princess Movie and has my favorite score and music.
You know, as far as Dan not liking Up...I have thoughts.
I left Up with a bad taste in my mouth. There was so much to like about it. Not just in the first fifteen minutes, but all throughout the movie but here's what ruined it for me.
It might be the anti-PETA side of me, but I found myself so resentful of the subplot of "We have to save the bird!" All throughout I wanted to scream, "Let the Howard Hughes guy have the stupid bird!" If you'll remember, the villain was wrongly called a fraud for faking the bird skeleton, and I felt he deserved to clear his name. I cared so much more about Carl being able to deliver the house to waterfall, and I resented the movie when it tried to frame his ultimate arrival as unsatisfying.
I should add I see what they were getting at, and if you gave me the broad strokes, I would say it sounds good, but I really think the execution was deeply muddled.
It's funny, because I saw the movie with my mom and she had almost the exact same opinion, and yet I've never heard anyone else bring up these problems.
Totally agree. I wanted the ”villan” to get his redemtion. It’s just a bird was my exact thought.
Bill Murrey was in the film version of The City of Ember. If you haven't seen it you should. I really enjoyed it.
For me, the single greatest action scene in a non-animated movie was that awesome wheel sequence in Pirates of the Caribbean 2
Disney did Han Solo so dirty with the Solo movie that it's inexcusable. They had the chance to tell a really interesting and compelling origin story for one of the, if not the, most beloved character in the franchise and Solo is what we got?
NGL, I'm a little blown away by Brandon's take on The Little Mermaid. It is, quite literally, Teenager Does Stupid Things: The Story. Everything she does is misguided and puts her life in danger. Had she gotten what she wanted immediately, Ursula would have retained control of everything and likely eventually killed everyone in her domain. Hell, in the original version of the story, she DOES die for her stupidity, because she never got the prince to desire her to begin with.
Love this podcast. I look forward to this every week.
(100% agreed on Magical Beasts)
KUNG POW WAS A MASTERPIECE.
The end.
the audio really sells the prologue
I love how defensive Brandon is of ratatouille…because I am the same way about the film.
I guess I that is why I love "What About Bob?" I have always watched it as a dark comedy. This psycho takes over a family from one of the world's leading psychiatrists. It's amazingly evil. I like it a lot. Similar to "Drop Dead Fred". A terrifying look into a literal insane person's life. "Drop Dead Fred" is a very dark movie that is often played for laughs. But knowing what we know now (know better?) about mental health. Both of these movies are terrifying. And funny.
I feel personally attacked over the Black Cauldron comment. Gurgi is the best character ever! 😆
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I thought Fantastic Beasts was mediocre and too slow but I still was able to enjoy it. The second one is way worse in every regard. It was pretty incredible, actually.
If you guys did a tier list of Disney princesses… that thing would go so viral.
Indy drank from the holy grail so I was able to roll with him surviving in the fridge
I didn't know Dan had a B5 blog, I'll have to read along as I continue my rewatch. It will be interesting to see the series from a less positive perspective than my own.
I worked just next door to the distillery where the Bourbon heist took place, actually walking within 10 feet of open warehouse doors at times (on the backside of the warehouse which wasn't even one of their shipping exits). I wasn't surprised by the theft at all, security always seemed lax. After it happened I never saw those doors open again :D
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You talked about heartbreak on the Incredibles 2. I think that's why I have such an irrational dislike nearing hatred for the sequels. The original Trilogy was everything to us growing up. To see it treated so poorly was a slap in the face. I couldn't even make it past the 15 minute mark in 9.
I think it's also why I like the Mandalorian more than it really deserves. Because it's so clearly made by someone who actually cares about Star Wars.
The problem with 7th was that it was completely unoriginal, 8th felt like one good movie mixed with one bad and one mediocre movie and the 9th was just completely stupid.
Tyanna is the best princess. Has the most agency and personality. Princess and the Frog has a cool villain too.
Kung POW is amazing lol you just leveled up for me Brandon
The sympathetic character in Freddy Got Fingered is the filmmaker. I like that the filmmaker convinced someone to pay MILLIONS OF DOLLARS for this absurdist story. That joke NEVER gets old for me.
that was the Brodie, who gets lost in his own museum
Dan I don't hate Solo, but it was my least favorite. Getting to see Yoda cut loose and eventually fight the Emperor (he didn't lose, just ran out of time) were the pay off of the Prequals. I love that Rey has a yellow light saber and I want to see more of the Sequels because they feel unfinished to me.
I love Fantastic Beasts. I actually liked it better than the Harry Potter films because as a book fan I I was always disappointed.
Why? Just curious as I hate Fantastic Beasts with a passion. I felt like we could have gotten a magical Adventure in the vein of Indiana Jones, exploring lost worlds and far away places in pursuit of magical creatures (kind of like Pokémon lol). But instead we got this... bloated drama set in New York with a guy that can’t handle dangerous animals.
I'm with you! I love Fantastic Beasts. The sequel was awful, but I think Fantastic Beasts on its own is really a wonderful adventure.
@@brainst0rm I liked the second one too. 🙆
@@christianbjorck816 when you put it like that I can see the disconnect. And I would've been happy with a hint of that. I didn't see Newt as being incapable just inexperienced. I liked the time period and that whole aesthetic plus the characters were charming. I don't know, I just really enjoyed the whole experience.
@@christianbjorck816 that to me sounds like a problem with your expectations. When and who set up those promises that were never delivered upon? Not living up a personally perceived potential that was never promised does not really constitute a bad movie.
To list some of the things I liked:
The characters and there interactions
The hyjinx of the klepto monster
The reveal of the boy as the powerful one that was being searched for the whole time, even though you were made to believe it was his little sister.
Kung Pow is a legitimately GREAT bad movie. Im excited for the next poll
"Magical Beasts-"
Me: Sounds kind of familiar...
"and where to find them."
Me: You did not just do that.
You can criticise it - I'd disagree for the first one - but do NOT disrespect it. PLEASE at least get the name right.
Yeah, FB 1 is a surprisingly good movie
Would the movie "Smokey and the Bandit" qualify as a food heist?
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Wreck it Ralph 2 (Ralph wrecks the Internet) breaks my heart. I am so fond of the first movie, so it hurt me almost to the point of physical illness me to watch the 2nd film meander painfully to a boring mess of a duster fire.
Kung Pow is one of my favorite comedies of all time. My friends and I will quote the whole movie
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Ratatouille is a masterpiece Dan
I can see how you might interpret "What About Bob?" that way. I think I never interpreted it so...horrifyingly? because Leo Marvin's family actually DOES love Leo; Fay is legitimately concerned when the interview doesn't go well and purposely tries to make the birthday party great BECAUSE she cares; when Siggy dives, the first person he excitedly yells to IS Leo; the whole family agrees to turn Bob out of the house when they realize how much Leo really dislikes him; etc. Leo, who as a psychiatrist is supposed to be the emotionally healthy one, refuses to voice, even sometimes admit to himself, his own emotions. He always claims he doesn't get angry, and refuses to honestly tell his kids what he is feeling and why (his conversation at the marina with Anna is very telling, since he refuses to talk without the puppets, a tool that is supposed to make honest communication easier, and yet he uses it to try to control Anna rather than communicate honestly and turns the conversation into a comparison between himself and Bob; Anna never once compares them, it's Leo who takes her statements about Bob as a reflections on himself). Bob is the perfect foil because he always says exactly what he is feeling and what his needs are. He obviously doesn't know the first thing about healthy boundaries, and I can see why that would turn you off, but he never purposely "steals" anything from Leo; beyond showing up at the lake, everything else happens purely by coincidence. I would argue that what really drives Leo mad is his own interpretation of events as proving that Bob is better than he is, when in reality, there is no reason for him to think that. No one actually thinks Leo is a schmuck BUT Leo (and the Gutmans).
That movie seems to be one of those love it or hate it ones, since I have friends who love it, and friends who hate it.
Esmeralda gets hanged, put in a mass grave and the Hunchback crawls in there and starves to death... time to read The Hunchback LOL
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I'm with Brandon here. I think Snow White is by far the worst, most boring Disney movie I've seen 😩 4/10
Her voice makes my head hurt
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fantastic beasts also makes some interesting implications about what happens when magical people can’t use their magic….and yet that seems to be the main punishment at hogwarts…see hagrid and every movie where the try and kick harry out of school
100% agree on What about Bob.. What are your thoughts on The Man Who Knew Too LIttle?
Hunchback is one of the most underrated Disney movies of the 1990s, which maybe isn't saying much since it's an amazing time period of Disney animated movies. Also, What About Bob is hilarious. I had the same reaction that Brandon had, it was so weird and strange, but then you just get into it and it's so funny. Much like Napoleon Dynamite, the first watch was unbearable, but after that I understood the nature of the show and thought it was really funny.
It’s too bad a studio like Dreamworks didn’t do Hunchback in the same era they made Prince of Egypt. Felt like they could handle the serious material without making it ”silly” or ”funny”. They could deliver banger music too.
@@christianbjorck816 prince of Egypt is a total bore
@@reginaldforthright805 Not at all. It’s fantastic.
Just give two scores in your ratings: one evaluating the created work for its time, and another for how it compares now timelessly.
The Office doesn't really rely on "annoying people being annoying" (said with a humourless sour face). It is really relatively amusing or odd people being annoying to each other for comedy. One might like some of them more or less, that's normal, but it's mostly still fun. (I would say the US version tries to be more "warm", whereas the original British version requires more of a neutral detachment. It's just entertainment, one can figure it out.)
There are some really unsympathetic statements and stances in this video. Or I guess two I mentioned.
Dan is wrong. Sleep Beauty is beautiful and great. I agree with Brandon about Snow White.
What's the name of the author who wrote about The little mermaid? I want to look that up and read it
Has the podcast name Rando Sando been suggested yet?
I think the one thing that really destroyed Harlan Ellison's reputation more than anything else was his failure to work on "Last Dangerous Visions." He was so obsessed with people paying him properly for his work, and respecting his work, and yet he did not treat other authors' work so seriously.
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Ratatouille is not only the best Pixar movie, it's one of the best movies...
Incredibles 2 broke my heart too. It was a rehash that adds nothing with two conflicting art styles that were jarring.
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Also now I'm imagining Brandon running up a wall like a scared cat.
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Would you guys consider editing and uploading clips of the podcast?
I can not fathom someone disliking Rogue One, simply doesnt compute.
Kung Pow is great, fight me.
Kung Fury is the adult equivalent, and also incredible.
Okay I can't believe I missed Brandon Sanderson being a fan of Kung Pow, that's crazy! I love that movie lol, can quote the whole thing
yay more Tangled fans, it's my favorite one too. moana is pretty amazing too
I liked Kung Pow, not as much as Kung Foo Hustle (sub not dub), and not nearly as much as Kung Fury which I know the Sandwich himself loves.
So so ready
I'm with Brandon that Snow White is quite basic and empty given everything we've had since, but i'm with Dan that it deserves to be more beloved than Brandon's giving it credit for.
I'm with Brandon that Incredibles 2 breaks my heart that its not good. My partner loved the comedy, my sister bought me the dvd, I came out of it just baffled the story goes nowhere. Most pixar sequels have Disney Sequel syndrome but such better animation that i think its harder to notice.
I'm with Dan in that I could never get passed "man cooks well through magic puppet hair" but i'm with Brandon that everything else about it is great storytelling.
I was with dan on the aliens not being so bad in concept, and had a whole thing about 4's worst problem being everything feels fake, but Brandon hit that with the point that everything feels grounded in the others.
Personally, i found the first Fantastic Beasts really mixed. Like literally two stories, the beasts enjoyable but the grindlewald plot not, and the second film doubled down on the worst elements. Its one of the only films I've watched (like brandon said, at home but pay to view) where I hated it, stopped watching, tried again the next day (because maybe it gets better), stopped a second time, and never went back. So didnt even get to the point where credence is a dumbledore without youtube warning me it got Worse.
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podcast about Pixar movies 33:21 comon it should happen
I would be curious to hear Brandon's thoughts on the "if it came out now without context" view for classic sci-fi/fantasy. For example, I'm not sure how well Asimov or Frank Herbert would hold up under that lens, even though both wrote indisputable classics of the genre.
I don't know, what I've read of Dune still holds up and almost reads like a modern sci-fi adventure. Maybe that changes later on though as I'm still early in the book.
@@leonmayne797 Well, one criticism of Dune is its a white savior storyline that has not aged well.
@@rockandrolljew89 nah, its still a very stellar story
@@gordo6908 Agreed (at least for the first few novels), but that doesn't mean there aren't points for criticism
@@rockandrolljew89 there may be points, but there's no score