The luckiest driver was Lando for not getting a penalty for the aborted start blunder. Max getting from 17th to 6th in 12 laps had nothing to do with the red flag. Also, Lando repeatedly asked to pit before the red flag but now alleges max got lucky because max decided not to pit. Three times Lando went off the track that also had nothing to do with luck.
@@billB101 Perhaps this will get you up-to-speed: Slow corner, slightly off track: 10 seconds and an unhealthy round of vilification from the British press, that was after all a murder attempt from Max!!!! Actually puts lives at risk (illegal start) : naughty boy Lando, here's a fine which for those guys is the equivalent of buying ice cream, tsk tsk tsk
On top of what you correctly listed Lando once again lost the lead of the race in the first corner. Post race he said "that happens sometimes" Sorry Lando, but it seems to happen all the time to you.
@@hy77faqqor his brutal honesty offended you make you cry like you do and like the British Media and some certains driver DTS crying fangirls for nearly three years and counting since AD21 🤣🤣🤣🤣🍼
@@hy77faqq Luckily he has plenty of trophies to collect tears, though I suspect it will be the tears of his critics. He's getting another one for his fourth championship soon too!
@@BJWT1047 Because if he doesn't, he'd look worse than he already does, he was totally shedding tears while writing that. Have you seen his Horner interview? He looked like he had just left a funeral
What hill said last week was correct. Verstappens driving at Mexico was a joke. His driving on Sunday was amazing but doesn’t rule out the stupid moves he pulled the race before
So when max can change tires it's kind of unfair, yet when hamilton could fix his car in silverstone '21 from a crash he created sky sport where silent? Can you spot the hypocrisy?
Or think of rainly Monza 2021 when Lewis went off, damaged his car when doing so, and then was lucky that the Bottas/Russel crash happened that caused a red flag, when they could repair his car under the red flag. There wasn't much discussion then (by the British media) whether it was ok, not only to change tires, but to repair a car under a red flag. That red flag caused Lewis to get out in a repaird car and finish second (I believe) and thus, gaining a huge advantage of said red flag situation.
The Brittania Rules are different. If you’re British you can change tire pressures of tires affixed to car and not get a DQ just a fine. Does that mean that’s all you need to do is pay a few bob and it’s ok. That is a black flag for Verstappen. Russell gets to optimize his car and get a mega start to take the lead.
Max never called for a red flag, he said it was extreme conditions are GP said a red flag should come soon because it was worse than qualifying Stop lying And no offence to him but ollie has no say in this, he is a rookie and couldn't even handle light rain much less the heavy rain so of course he wanted it red flagged
George called for a red flag on lap 29 and literally said there was a pool in turn 13 and someone would go off ans crash. Guess in which corner did Colapinto spin off?
Sky have been embarrased by Verstappens race and comments, their biase became blatant. Where were they on that press conference after the race? They never explained.
Praising max for his great drive on instagram, just like he rightfully criticized his dirty driving last week, where were you then? I assume by your salty comment you were one of the ppl applauding his dirty driving.🤣
Also Bernie needs to check her footage again. Biggest complainers of conditions were collapinto (after already pitting for new inters), Piastri who had/would gain nothing, Russel who already pitted, Alonso who would also gain nothing, and Bearman who was practically at the back already.
And terrible level , especialy crofty what a asshole 😅😅 ted is also biased af , but sometimes comes with completely differend opinions , and can be funky, Martin the same pretty much , Martin atleast can sometimes langs about max , but boring crofty allways wines neder aknowlidges and is also not a voor dure in general !
The stewart's where ones again very much on the hand off Lando. Lando goes of teack turn four with a possible unsafe rejoin. Nothing happens Leclerc does the same. And it gets noted. Lando goes of at turn one lost 4 positions at the end of turn one. Rips full throttle cutting the second turn completely winning 3 positions back, and with a second possible unsafe rejoin and doesn't even gets noted How is this possible
How about we add an illegal extra formation lap while the safety of a driver and track marshals are at stake? Slap on the wrist and a 5000 euro fine. That is basically a biased middle finger to Max and others in F1. I repeat: he went driving while he was not allowed to while we know after the unfortunate death of Bianchi this should *NOT* be allowed and the rules are there in place to prevent that from happening again. *Lando Norris completely ignored that and started driving under these conditions putting lives at risk* Slow corner, slightly off track: 10 seconds and an unhealthy round of vilification from the British press, that was after all a murder attempt from Max!!!! Actually puts lives at risk : naughty boy Lando, here's a fine which for those guys is the equivalent of buying ice cream, tsk tsk tsk If that was Max we would have seen immediate actions against him. Like penalty points, 100000 euros fine and starting from the pitlane that very same race (which would have been fair tbh)
@@reddwarf666 He stopped weaving and putting heat in his soon to be replaced tires, when the team said: *RECOVERY VEHICLE* Russel saw it, in front of him and was smart enough to understand without the team. Then Lando still would try to put heat into the old set of tires back to the grid. As if he had no idea that there would be a 10 minutes wait after a aborted start.
Yes, I noticed those immediately as well. Rejoining in an unsafe manner at one instance and leaving the track and gaining an advantage on the other when he cut the corner and rejoined further than he should have been. Not noted, nor any investigation.. Glad Max won the way he did, so that he extended his lead. His drive in Brazil showed who would be the deserving Champion of 2024, because Max drove like a Champion and made most other drivers (apart from Esteban, Pierre and George) look like mediocre drivers (which they are not) but his drive was just a master class in the rain!
clowns, the question about changing tyres under red flag is for very very long time and it would NOT have been brought up if it was Lando or Lewis or George or w/e brit driver benefited it now, but because it was Max - heey, "is this a problem? What's their point? Can we get rid of that rule? hmmmmmmmm....." British media will be always a british media.
Bernie criticizing those who stayed out on inters saying it’s a risk without mentioning that most of those who pitted before the red flag also took new inters and not full wets
George was also complaining about the conditions after his stop. There was like 3-5 inches of water on parts of the track, and it's insane that they don't call her on that
These comparisons with drives from the past are a little bit daft. In the day there used to be diferences of 15 seconds between first 15 in qualify, today it´s just 1 second between the firs 15. This makes Max´s performance just só more impressive.
this. Just go back to races in the 80ies. There were like 3-4 professional teams and then a bunch of teams that were seconds off, DNFed more than half the races or didnt even qualify for the race.
Master class, generational.. No... LEGENDARY.. Period. As time goes on, this will go down as the greatest drive in F1 history..It is now the benchmark of which all drivers will be held against..
The most epic race in decades and these Lando /Lewis fans talk about the tire regulations under a red flag.. The red flag caused Max to qualify 17th.. And still he won the race... Whatever.. 🙄🙄🙄
Hold on lady! Many riders were asking for a red flag if anything Max was one of the least complaining about it. Check the rookies like Oscar and Oliver 🤦🏻♂️
Is he the best wet weather driver of all time....I dunno. What I do know is: You could have asked Max in the driver's press conference after the Brazil race, but you didnt even show up because you are all VERY biased reporters who have no shame in showing it on camera.
karun said during the race, max has more godtier talent in his fingers then other drivers in their body. also funny to hear crofty directly say something trough it, it was around lap 67 / 68 if i am not mistaken.
Haha that was so funny! Crofty: "Max is brilliant and i don't want to dwell on it but sometimes he does thing you don't like" * Continues dwelling for minutes on the things he doesn't like about Max. He was soooo mad🤣🤣🤣
No penalty for the 3 Leaving start line No penalty for changing tyre pressure. I bet if was Max and Redbull there be 10 sec penalty. No British in press conference it's just wrong the Sky sports team are only interested in Lewis and Lando
it's usually a DQ for that type of rule infringement. That extra lap after the start is aborted is equal to leaving the pit lane while the red light is on.
Such Biased channel…. Pointing just Alonso and Leclerc went off track but not Lewis and Lando 13:00 🙄 and then indirectly pointing Max’s masterclass to red flag and not having the guts to call out Lando for going off track twice to concede positions
Oscar was calling for a red flag too. Wow, everytime sky is rewriting facts when Max is the taking point. Red flag has never been a issue but now the spoiled brad Lando lost it is a problem.
Is Damon Hill still at the airport? 😏 Also a SERIOUS look has to be taken at having stewards of a certain country background during the season to minimize any potential chance of bias. In other sports like boxing as an example you can’t have all the judges having the same country background as the fighter. I do agree there is more nuance to this considering the many different nationalities of the F1 drivers. However having British stewards making the calls when a British driver is in contention of a title is one potential misjudgment away from a bias controversy.
Of course championship has been lost in the period from Miami. The difference was only 52 points with 19 races to go. In most of those races Lando clearly had the quicker car.
What's funny is that after Monza, the difference was 62 points. Norris then brought that down to 44 points in 5 races, only for Verstappen to completely nullify it back to 62 points in 1 race. It's literally the same points difference as 5 races ago. :p
@@MSFP87simple that Fastest car is drive by the wrong driver imagine if it was Max or Lewis the one drive that car and Lando drive that RB20 this season will be the other way around LOL
😂😂 I hate British media how think such a narrow minded like when max kisses his partner,sky news anchor was saying “max gives kiss for his gf,but not for hornet “ I’m fed up….for every 10 secs noris noris noris….😂😂but fun when max mocked British media
@@billB101 I don't think you realize that most of the world can watch F1 only via SkyTV and F1 TV. They usually make more money this way than making a contract with foreign televisions for the streaming rights...
@@adriancojocaru5846 Oh I realise alright, that's why it makes it such a target for trolls. Any tiny mention of a British driver and they think it's automatically British bias, even though it's a British feed. Thing is though you can always subscribe to F1TV and watch the non Sky feed. No one is forcing anyone to watch the Sky commentary, but if you do then you have to accept that it's a British feed, because that's what it is. I honesty wish it wasn't international, it'd shut the trolls up for sure.
It was an incredible drive. Max was finding grip where nobody else was. My question to sky sports is why didn’t the broadcast cover it? After about the 12th fastest lap, a competent broadcast would at some point throw it to one of the commentators and follow a lap with Max. Where was he finding speed? Too busy covering Lando begging Piastri to let him by. During the sudden McLaren emergence, we found out that a leader with a big gap to second can be covered.
@@Snaakie83 Not really, but also yes... Check Peter Windsor, can explain Maxs style in detail.. But he turns before he turns and turns... and also after :) As such.. Hes not putting turning, accelerating pressure etc on the tires while hes on the curbs or white lines... Eyes closed head first, cant loose!! 🤠
The entire changing tyre under red discussion is just because it favoured Max this week. It is the same principle as changing tyres under a VSC or SC, that gives you an advantage too. But suddenly it is unfair and a problem. At least this red flag was pretty predictable, most drivers were mentioning the terrible conditions and even calling for a red flag. Staying out was a calculated risk. Usually, it is more luck. For example, the SC in Miami that helped Lando win was less predictable, and according to the reasoning here even more unfair. And yet, usually it is just accepted as part of racing.
Chancing tyres under Red Flag is not more unfair than changing tyres under VSC/SC - all of them gives or takes advantage for drivers. That’s also an essential thrilling element of a race.
I don’t think we need to change the rules for a red flag. George knew it was a possibility of a red flag. We wouldn’t see teams like Alpine getting two podiums. Sport isn’t always fair and it’s entertaining for fans.
The number 1 thing this weekend showed was F1 needs to look in to finding another broadcaster for its main english language programming. Sky have been embarrassingly biased for a while but theyve lost the plot completely now. Its a disgrace to call anything they do or say journalism. Its starting to really turn me off watching F1
If you want the answer to best wet weather driver you only need watch Barcelona 96! The british media always likes to bring up senna at donnington but when you get MSC lapping 5 seconds a lap quicker than anyone in absolutely torrential rain nonody comes close
No Max is not the best wet driver of all time, he is quite possibly the best F1 driver of all time. I saw his potential from his very first F1 race and regardless of the negative hype, reporters and social media comments continues to grow in depth and ability, San Paulo was possibly his most mature drive to date. ❤
This is the only Brits who says that was Max Masterclass driving and from all the drivers I didn’t hear anyone praising Max exemplary driving in this race. Another impressive thing Max did is the 17 consecutive fastest laps, for me this is unprecedented, never happened before by any driver.
It's such a non discussion on the red flag tyres change: 1) the safety element, 2) sometimes you're lucky when the SC comes out and have an advantage, 3) doing weird rules is just artificial...sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
Senna never thought that win was special, since he was in 1 of 8 cars that had TC at the time. For example Benetton got their TC in Monaco 3 races later. Also his McLaren and the Williams (obviously) were the most advanced cars on the grid in terms of driver aids so it was really Senna vs both Williams since Michael Andretti was not good. Ayrton always said his Estoril win in 1985 was the one win that was special, since everyone had the same tools.
@@joshimura1995 can you point out where he said it wasnt? Just because one in particular was more special doesnt mean its the only one. Max´s drive was great even thought he had the best car in the rain too, still took him a lot of effort.
@@villiamvankekem3693 he definitely did. You talk like red bull was a sauber. Its a good car overall thats getting beat by mclaren on the dry now but started the season much stronger than anyone else, its still good and was indeed the best in interlagos. I expect that to be the case in the dry on at least one of the last few races.
Even ones that pitted didn’t go to wet tyres. Reason wasn’t because they hoped it would become red flagged aswell, it was because the heavy rain was too short.
FIA has to say they have to use Full wets, FIA says you may Not overtake, ect. Hammie always complayned it was his corner, Prost did the same, now Max is defending a corner and the rules should change. Lets Go back to old school Racing with gravel outside the track, all drivers Will brake in time to stay on the Track, no discusions!
Exactly. Just put gravel directly next to the track in corners and that problem will be solved. Now they all refuse to back out because they know there’s plenty of tarmac and they can then complain to the stewards they’re being pushed off the track. If there would be gravel, this wouldn’t happen.
"Is Max Verstappen the best wet weather driver of ALL-TIME?" You can definitely make a case for it. When it mattered most, Max came through in brilliant fashion to win the race in horrendeous conditions. While handing out acolades for wet driving, lets not forget Esteban Ocon and Pierre Gasly. Alpine's driver didn't put a foot wrong either throughout that deluge during the race. In the Cool Down Room after the race, Max said to Ocon he couldn't catch him when Ocon had the lead. It took a safety car to offer the opportunity for Max to get by Ocon. Max put on a master class of wet driving, but other drivers were with him until the track started to dry.
I used to watch f1 ons sky from the Netherlands because I liked how they present. But after what happened 2 weeks long wont be watching f1 on Sky any more Dont forget Oscar gave points to Norris. Verstappen earned his points alone.
Max is in a league of his own! Best driver since Schumacher - if not Senna! Could well be the greatest ever, but needs to finish his career first to judge that.
Piastri was also advocating how bad conditions were while being on the inters as well, so I think that balances out max and ocon also calling for it haha
Yep, yep, I agree. No changing tires under a red flag. Nor under a Safety Car. Nor under a VSC. Nor if there are yellow flags. Gotta keep it fair at all times. (Sarcasm)
@BobbyDazzler888 and I was wondering more than 20 years why they avoid talking about Schumacher, Fangio and other non British pilots. Of course they represent only theme self and lot of love for the British People.
I AM SUCH A HUGE FAN OF BERNIE!!!!!!!!! SHE IS GREAT!!!!! She beats most pundits and commentators by a large margin a lot of engineer insight but she explains it in such a normal way, She can reach people the fellow F1 nerds cant. she is a real contribution to the team!
Problem with wet races: the full wets are only working when it is heavy rain over a longer period. The moment the track is not soaked the full wets are so fragile they get destroyed within 4 laps. F1 needs better full wets.
Sky Sports trying their hardest to let Karun attempt to reverse their now non-existent credibility. Karun, Brundle and Bernie are the only personalities holding up this joke of a broadcaster right now.
Max is the rainmaster ... no debate Sky talking about a red flag possibly tainted his performance is hilarious ..the red flag caused his 17th spot on the grid , funny how nobdoy talks about all the things that were against him ...
Is really true that British media were not present ? Does that include SKY. If that’s true it just screams bias. And then no penalty for a false start???
With full wets there is no visability anymore because of the big waterdisplacement. Drivers ande camera's wouldn't be able to see anything anymore. Especially with the current vacuüm under the car. It just doesn't work.
Hiding from what? The penalties haven't been rescinded because Verstappen won a race. (LOL, Do you think the excitement of a win somehow makes the previous weekend go away? Use your brain)
Matt Baker is remarkably ill-informed race after race. Case in point today was the points gap before Max's victory on Sunday. Maybe he should watch a race or 2.
Up there while using intermediate tyres. Max and Schumacher had more work ethic compared to their contemporaries in regards to testing and training. Ferrar Msc with his unlimited car testing and Max doing the teams sim test driver role on top of his own hobby sim racing
This reminds me of the 2016 season interview with Kvyat, who said he was busy watching Game of Thrones in the weekend... Where Max simply stated he was sim racing...
Did you count how many times Hill was absent after other victories for every interview in total or is this just an example of confirmation-bias which you should google real fast!!
He's only there when he thinks he can gloat about Verstappen's adversity, otherwise he's always at home crying about how unfairly Schumacher treated him 30 years ago
This podcast awfully feels like saving face. First you get all the toxic members of the Sky crew all week. And when they realize they've gone to far, there is Karun and Bernie to save the day, the only two members of Sky I can actually listen to because they don't go along with the bias.
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The luckiest driver was Lando for not getting a penalty for the aborted start blunder. Max getting from 17th to 6th in 12 laps had nothing to do with the red flag. Also, Lando repeatedly asked to pit before the red flag but now alleges max got lucky because max decided not to pit. Three times Lando went off the track that also had nothing to do with luck.
Amazing what you can get away with on track if you have British Privilege
@@djdrastic1 What's with all the xenophobes here?
@@billB101 People just hate you. Deal with it 😊
@@billB101 Perhaps this will get you up-to-speed:
Slow corner, slightly off track: 10 seconds and an unhealthy round of vilification from the British press, that was after all a murder attempt from Max!!!!
Actually puts lives at risk (illegal start) : naughty boy Lando, here's a fine which for those guys is the equivalent of buying ice cream, tsk tsk tsk
On top of what you correctly listed Lando once again lost the lead of the race in the first corner. Post race he said "that happens sometimes"
Sorry Lando, but it seems to happen all the time to you.
I can understand the correlation between Max’s post race comment on the British media and the absence of Crofty and Brundle here 😂
Max the cry baby as always, media and Lando really got to him you can tell🤣🤣
@@hy77faqq Max driving off into the sunset with his middlefinger up 😂
@hy77faqq the mouthy British getting what they deserve. Having to watch a masterclass while their greatest hope bottles it once again
@@hy77faqqor his brutal honesty offended you make you cry like you do and like the British Media and some certains driver DTS crying fangirls for nearly three years and counting since AD21 🤣🤣🤣🤣🍼
@@hy77faqq Luckily he has plenty of trophies to collect tears, though I suspect it will be the tears of his critics. He's getting another one for his fourth championship soon too!
Oh man! Hill was so excited about Max's driving last week I wanted to hear his thoughts on this one! In which cave can I go find him?
Posting on Insta some quite complimentary comments about Max, to be fair.
@@BJWT1047 Because if he doesn't, he'd look worse than he already does, he was totally shedding tears while writing that. Have you seen his Horner interview? He looked like he had just left a funeral
@@Salafessien It's an underwater cave, you won't find him till next week, he cried a river 😇
I mean we've known Hill is a clown for quite some time
Damon Hill says it has it is. Some people can’t deal with the facts.
Sky still can't give full credit. Hopefully once he won another championship sky commentary can all go to a corner and cry with Damon
Crashtappen will never have credit sorry.
What hill said last week was correct. Verstappens driving at Mexico was a joke. His driving on Sunday was amazing but doesn’t rule out the stupid moves he pulled the race before
@@lewis9388*British fans think it was a joke
There fixed it for you
So when max can change tires it's kind of unfair, yet when hamilton could fix his car in silverstone '21 from a crash he created sky sport where silent? Can you spot the hypocrisy?
Or think of rainly Monza 2021 when Lewis went off, damaged his car when doing so, and then was lucky that the Bottas/Russel crash happened that caused a red flag, when they could repair his car under the red flag. There wasn't much discussion then (by the British media) whether it was ok, not only to change tires, but to repair a car under a red flag. That red flag caused Lewis to get out in a repaird car and finish second (I believe) and thus, gaining a huge advantage of said red flag situation.
@@the_fleeing_dutchman imola
Exactly
The Brittania Rules are different. If you’re British you can change tire pressures of tires affixed to car and not get a DQ just a fine. Does that mean that’s all you need to do is pay a few bob and it’s ok.
That is a black flag for Verstappen.
Russell gets to optimize his car and get a mega start to take the lead.
Sky sports really lost credibility this weekend.
So you are just ignoring George, Oscar, and Ollie all calling for a red flag as well as Max if not before him
Max never called for a red flag, he said it was extreme conditions are GP said a red flag should come soon because it was worse than qualifying
Stop lying
And no offence to him but ollie has no say in this, he is a rookie and couldn't even handle light rain much less the heavy rain so of course he wanted it red flagged
George called for a red flag on lap 29 and literally said there was a pool in turn 13 and someone would go off ans crash. Guess in which corner did Colapinto spin off?
Lando is the best....at converting a pole position to a midfield position before the first corner
Lewis benefitted twice in 2021 from a Red Flag. Why didn't the British press complain then? 😅
Aidan Millward mentioned that on his channel
Imola was the most hilarious, 40 seconds in the gravel trap trying to find reverse, Red Flag gets him back to P2.
Lets call for another verstappen Rule . we know the stewards and FIA will follow up what sky is saying
@@ReggaeWise well Herbert was part of this team
@@mitchdaytonam3 It's called, LUCK.
Sky have been embarrased by Verstappens race and comments, their biase became blatant. Where were they on that press conference after the race? They never explained.
Just listened to the first few minutes and the main topic seems to be, is everyone feeling good. I am gone, just too much talking empty heads.
Because Max, Daddy & Whinger Spice are all weapons grade twats maybe?
Oh now they're Bias.. I bet you were not saying that in 2021.. you're just as hypocrites as they are..!
Slave to the moment... Max's next race'll be a disaster, he'll sulk and people will be wondering why Sky are attending the press conference.😂
where is Hill?🤣
In a funeral, with Lando and Zak McBurger.
He is still trying to get his arm out of the eminent Mr JP Herbert's behind, and vice versa.👴🤷♂
Praising max for his great drive on instagram, just like he rightfully criticized his dirty driving last week, where were you then? I assume by your salty comment you were one of the ppl applauding his dirty driving.🤣
SkySportsF1: Hill has retired.
Max: Karma.
@@Voldnarok who is Hill ?
Also Bernie needs to check her footage again. Biggest complainers of conditions were collapinto (after already pitting for new inters), Piastri who had/would gain nothing, Russel who already pitted, Alonso who would also gain nothing, and Bearman who was practically at the back already.
Meanwhile Max: "Let's try another lap"
Williams forced Franco to be put into inters even if he asked for wets. This error have cost the team a LOT of money.
Where is Damon Hill? No respect left for him…
He is still trying to get his arm out of the eminent Mr JP Herbert's behind, and vice versa.👴🤷♂
He's an old guy. and probably doesn't understand how all these new things like video conferencing work...
Australia 95, one driver lapped field twice to win?
Why not, just because he isn't here. He does have a life you know outside of F1
For calling out dirty driving and now praising a good drive like a normal human being? Quite stupid logic you got going😂
Sky should sack their entire commentary team….biased rubbish…
And terrible level , especialy crofty what a asshole 😅😅 ted is also biased af , but sometimes comes with completely differend opinions , and can be funky, Martin the same pretty much , Martin atleast can sometimes langs about max , but boring crofty allways wines neder aknowlidges and is also not a voor dure in general !
agree
It's scandalous. I don't even waste my time dwelling on it now. Almost as bad as some deluded fans 😭😂
British press like British drivers. Next up, water is wet.
Agreed, watching this is like watching a comedy😂
fines for bad start and changing pressure are a joke- should of been time penalties. look at who the stewards were
The stewart's where ones again very much on the hand off Lando.
Lando goes of teack turn four with a possible unsafe rejoin. Nothing happens
Leclerc does the same. And it gets noted.
Lando goes of at turn one lost 4 positions at the end of turn one. Rips full throttle cutting the second turn completely winning 3 positions back, and with a second possible unsafe rejoin and doesn't even gets noted
How is this possible
I saw that too! None of the channels noticed, not even the Dutch ones
How about we add an illegal extra formation lap while the safety of a driver and track marshals are at stake?
Slap on the wrist and a 5000 euro fine.
That is basically a biased middle finger to Max and others in F1.
I repeat: he went driving while he was not allowed to while we know after the unfortunate death of Bianchi this should *NOT* be allowed and the rules are there in place to prevent that from happening again.
*Lando Norris completely ignored that and started driving under these conditions putting lives at risk*
Slow corner, slightly off track: 10 seconds and an unhealthy round of vilification from the British press, that was after all a murder attempt from Max!!!!
Actually puts lives at risk : naughty boy Lando, here's a fine which for those guys is the equivalent of buying ice cream, tsk tsk tsk
If that was Max we would have seen immediate actions against him. Like penalty points, 100000 euros fine and starting from the pitlane that very same race (which would have been fair tbh)
@@reddwarf666 He stopped weaving and putting heat in his soon to be replaced tires, when the team said: *RECOVERY VEHICLE*
Russel saw it, in front of him and was smart enough to understand without the team.
Then Lando still would try to put heat into the old set of tires back to the grid. As if he had no idea that there would be a 10 minutes wait after a aborted start.
@RogerKeulen even Ocon and Max who was right at the back knew
Yes, I noticed those immediately as well. Rejoining in an unsafe manner at one instance and leaving the track and gaining an advantage on the other when he cut the corner and rejoined further than he should have been. Not noted, nor any investigation..
Glad Max won the way he did, so that he extended his lead. His drive in Brazil showed who would be the deserving Champion of 2024, because Max drove like a Champion and made most other drivers (apart from Esteban, Pierre and George) look like mediocre drivers (which they are not) but his drive was just a master class in the rain!
Those who stayed out took a CALCULATED RISK. And it payed off bigtime for Gasly, Ocon and Verstappen. Good for them!
Jep, both Alpines and Max stayed out on purpose, thats not 'luck' like Sky (and Norris) say.
THE BEST PART OF THE WEEKEND WAS MAX TAKES THE LEAD INTO TURN 1 AND LANDO GOES OFF IN THE BACKROUND
clowns, the question about changing tyres under red flag is for very very long time and it would NOT have been brought up if it was Lando or Lewis or George or w/e brit driver benefited it now, but because it was Max - heey, "is this a problem? What's their point? Can we get rid of that rule? hmmmmmmmm....." British media will be always a british media.
Yeah, such as getting rid of the fastest lap the moment it didn't benefit McLaren..
Yes, clowns! The bias is strong in these ones!
What about silverstone '21 where Lewis fixed his car from a crash he created? Nothing from sky sports then.
Lol, you clowns, the media is mostly covering whoever is winning, that's how money is made.
Thought i will give them a chance,but no just bias ,😢
Max vs sky, CHECKMATE 🇳🇱🧡
Bernie criticizing those who stayed out on inters saying it’s a risk without mentioning that most of those who pitted before the red flag also took new inters and not full wets
@@pato10111 have you been paying attention? Probably not. Bernie is o woman, not a man
@@eliseakerboom define a woman? 😂
George was also complaining about the conditions after his stop. There was like 3-5 inches of water on parts of the track, and it's insane that they don't call her on that
@@HdRoadglideSpecialMatBlack lul
Then tell your mates Lando, George and Oli who pitted for inters instead of wet tires as you’re saying and were the ones who started complaining
These comparisons with drives from the past are a little bit daft. In the day there used to be diferences of 15 seconds between first 15 in qualify, today it´s just 1 second between the firs 15.
This makes Max´s performance just só more impressive.
And in the 90s they had traction control and even active suspension at one point.
this. Just go back to races in the 80ies. There were like 3-4 professional teams and then a bunch of teams that were seconds off, DNFed more than half the races or didnt even qualify for the race.
max killed sky sports that day :)))))))
Max didn‘t only practiced in the rain when he was Young in his cart, in the Netherlands we don‘t have rain tires for carts…
Damon "bitter old man" Hill hiding under a rock??
Hill called Max a brilliant diver to Horner after the race.
@billB101 To late was the cry..
Hill-arous
Damon got bullied by schumacher.still not over it.
Master class, generational.. No... LEGENDARY.. Period. As time goes on, this will go down as the greatest drive in F1 history..It is now the benchmark of which all drivers will be held against..
The most epic race in decades and these Lando /Lewis fans talk about the tire regulations under a red flag.. The red flag caused Max to qualify 17th.. And still he won the race... Whatever.. 🙄🙄🙄
Hold on lady! Many riders were asking for a red flag if anything Max was one of the least complaining about it. Check the rookies like Oscar and Oliver 🤦🏻♂️
Rookie george has begging for it
Is he the best wet weather driver of all time....I dunno.
What I do know is:
You could have asked Max in the driver's press conference after the Brazil race, but you didnt even show up because you are all VERY biased reporters who have no shame in showing it on camera.
Ayrton Senna : remember him staying out on slicks in the wet !!
Podcast sounds like a lot excuses to cover up the bias. Doesn’t help though.
karun said during the race, max has more godtier talent in his fingers then other drivers in their body. also funny to hear crofty directly say something trough it, it was around lap 67 / 68 if i am not mistaken.
Haha that was so funny!
Crofty: "Max is brilliant and i don't want to dwell on it but sometimes he does thing you don't like"
* Continues dwelling for minutes on the things he doesn't like about Max.
He was soooo mad🤣🤣🤣
yes that was so blatant again
also funny was his enthousiasm when perez spun and croft thought it was max 😂
No penalty for the 3 Leaving start line No penalty for changing tyre pressure. I bet if was Max and Redbull there be 10 sec penalty. No British in press conference it's just wrong the Sky sports team are only interested in Lewis and Lando
it's usually a DQ for that type of rule infringement. That extra lap after the start is aborted is equal to leaving the pit lane while the red light is on.
Such Biased channel…. Pointing just Alonso and Leclerc went off track but not Lewis and Lando 13:00 🙄 and then indirectly pointing Max’s masterclass to red flag and not having the guts to call out Lando for going off track twice to concede positions
No Sky reporters at the press conference.
You could have asked MAX himself
No Dutch reporters either.
THE GOAT OF GOATS
Max Verstappen
LOL. What a fantasy, you must have been born post 90s.
@zt2max Swing and miss REEETARD. Attended my first F1 race in 88 so I've seen all the modern greats.
I have watched F1 since 1978 and I agree
Back then half the field were Latifi's and Mazepins while now 80% of the drivers are really good
Oscar was calling for a red flag too. Wow, everytime sky is rewriting facts when Max is the taking point. Red flag has never been a issue but now the spoiled brad Lando lost it is a problem.
Max was also calling for a red flag if you look at his radio transcript.
If there wasnt a red flag, it would have been really embarassing if max would win.
Now landos got a nice excuse.
Is Damon Hill still at the airport? 😏
Also a SERIOUS look has to be taken at having stewards of a certain country background during the season to minimize any potential chance of bias.
In other sports like boxing as an example you can’t have all the judges having the same country background as the fighter. I do agree there is more nuance to this considering the many different nationalities of the F1 drivers. However having British stewards making the calls when a British driver is in contention of a title is one potential misjudgment away from a bias controversy.
😂😂
Max is the goat in the rain. He was a driver who was learning other drivers how to drive!!
Of course championship has been lost in the period from Miami. The difference was only 52 points with 19 races to go. In most of those races Lando clearly had the quicker car.
They need to cover it up mate
The McLaren was the quickest car in Brazil.
They should have won
How on earth with having the best car from Miami onwards the gap increased!
Why isn’t that a topic in the episode?!
What's funny is that after Monza, the difference was 62 points. Norris then brought that down to 44 points in 5 races, only for Verstappen to completely nullify it back to 62 points in 1 race. It's literally the same points difference as 5 races ago. :p
@@MSFP87simple that Fastest car is drive by the wrong driver imagine if it was Max or Lewis the one drive that car and Lando drive that RB20 this season will be the other way around LOL
Also Karun - Max has outscored Lando since Miami, so he'd still be winning the title without those first 5 races
😂😂 I hate British media how think such a narrow minded like when max kisses his partner,sky news anchor was saying “max gives kiss for his gf,but not for hornet “ I’m fed up….for every 10 secs noris noris noris….😂😂but fun when max mocked British media
So don't watch, no one of forcing you. Watch your own media's feed instead.
British media are the worst in the world
@@billB101 I don't think you realize that most of the world can watch F1 only via SkyTV and F1 TV. They usually make more money this way than making a contract with foreign televisions for the streaming rights...
@@billB101🙊🙊🙊🙊
@@adriancojocaru5846 Oh I realise alright, that's why it makes it such a target for trolls. Any tiny mention of a British driver and they think it's automatically British bias, even though it's a British feed. Thing is though you can always subscribe to F1TV and watch the non Sky feed. No one is forcing anyone to watch the Sky commentary, but if you do then you have to accept that it's a British feed, because that's what it is. I honesty wish it wasn't international, it'd shut the trolls up for sure.
It was an incredible drive. Max was finding grip where nobody else was. My question to sky sports is why didn’t the broadcast cover it? After about the 12th fastest lap, a competent broadcast would at some point throw it to one of the commentators and follow a lap with Max. Where was he finding speed? Too busy covering Lando begging Piastri to let him by. During the sudden McLaren emergence, we found out that a leader with a big gap to second can be covered.
He was using the curbs to exit the corners with much more speed, where the others avoided touching any curbs.
He also had a new ICE nobody like to bring up.
@@Snaakie83 Not really, but also yes... Check Peter Windsor, can explain Maxs style in detail.. But he turns before he turns and turns... and also after :) As such.. Hes not putting turning, accelerating pressure etc on the tires while hes on the curbs or white lines... Eyes closed head first, cant loose!! 🤠
@@greyshepherd3456A new engine doesn't help anything whatsoever when the track is that wet but please keep on coping, it's truly entertaining
@jeanpaulceulemans9973 Having more power will ALWAYS help.
And.. cope for what? A f1 championship that I have nothing to do with?
And still not mention the red flag max got in quali?
The entire changing tyre under red discussion is just because it favoured Max this week. It is the same principle as changing tyres under a VSC or SC, that gives you an advantage too. But suddenly it is unfair and a problem. At least this red flag was pretty predictable, most drivers were mentioning the terrible conditions and even calling for a red flag. Staying out was a calculated risk. Usually, it is more luck. For example, the SC in Miami that helped Lando win was less predictable, and according to the reasoning here even more unfair. And yet, usually it is just accepted as part of racing.
Chancing tyres under Red Flag is not more unfair than changing tyres under VSC/SC - all of them gives or takes advantage for drivers. That’s also an essential thrilling element of a race.
I don’t think we need to change the rules for a red flag. George knew it was a possibility of a red flag. We wouldn’t see teams like Alpine getting two podiums. Sport isn’t always fair and it’s entertaining for fans.
They'll keep neutering the sport to get more Brits on the podium .
The number 1 thing this weekend showed was F1 needs to look in to finding another broadcaster for its main english language programming. Sky have been embarrassingly biased for a while but theyve lost the plot completely now. Its a disgrace to call anything they do or say journalism. Its starting to really turn me off watching F1
F1 live is ten times better than these frustrated Sky Clowns. Only Harry Benjamin is really good but (that's why) they don't allow him on very often
Next year piastri wont give up his position.
Mclaren managment already knows piastri is more likely to be a champion in the future then lando.
Spot on
If you want the answer to best wet weather driver you only need watch Barcelona 96! The british media always likes to bring up senna at donnington but when you get MSC lapping 5 seconds a lap quicker than anyone in absolutely torrential rain nonody comes close
Senna had traction control in Donnington Park
No Max is not the best wet driver of all time, he is quite possibly the best F1 driver of all time. I saw his potential from his very first F1 race and regardless of the negative hype, reporters and social media comments continues to grow in depth and ability, San Paulo was possibly his most mature drive to date. ❤
Next season Piastri drives circles around Norris.
This is the only Brits who says that was Max Masterclass driving and from all the drivers I didn’t hear anyone praising Max exemplary driving in this race. Another impressive thing Max did is the 17 consecutive fastest laps, for me this is unprecedented, never happened before by any driver.
Sky f1 giving Max his flowers? Am I still in a sorta fever dream?
Your in the multiverse
they're just covering their bums after all their sh*tshow and blowback they getting for it
If the argument of tire change during red flag is a problem ,imagine the outcome of races and even championship in the past.
Is changing tire pressure on the grid for 10000$ unfair?
In comparison, it's cheaper then us pumping tires for 50 cents for 2 minutes :D
Is it tire or tyre?
@@boozelala I think its a more important question than tire change under red. That is allowed
@@Obetv01 tire, am I wrong?
It's such a non discussion on the red flag tyres change: 1) the safety element, 2) sometimes you're lucky when the SC comes out and have an advantage, 3) doing weird rules is just artificial...sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
It's a projection subject to keep talking yes. Next time Lewis or Lando needs a change and cannot just because of a fake discussion
Rumor has it, it took Skysports 5 takes to make this believable. Couple of others couldn’t cut it.
Senna at Donington Park. Max is right up there.
Also, I think Senna was running a Ford DFV.
Senna never thought that win was special, since he was in 1 of 8 cars that had TC at the time. For example Benetton got their TC in Monaco 3 races later.
Also his McLaren and the Williams (obviously) were the most advanced cars on the grid in terms of driver aids so it was really Senna vs both Williams since Michael Andretti was not good.
Ayrton always said his Estoril win in 1985 was the one win that was special, since everyone had the same tools.
@@joshimura1995 can you point out where he said it wasnt? Just because one in particular was more special doesnt mean its the only one. Max´s drive was great even thought he had the best car in the rain too, still took him a lot of effort.
@@VjRj84 You "feel like" he had the best car? Why? RB hasn't been fastest for 14 races. FP times favor Mcl.
@@villiamvankekem3693 he definitely did. You talk like red bull was a sauber. Its a good car overall thats getting beat by mclaren on the dry now but started the season much stronger than anyone else, its still good and was indeed the best in interlagos. I expect that to be the case in the dry on at least one of the last few races.
Even ones that pitted didn’t go to wet tyres. Reason wasn’t because they hoped it would become red flagged aswell, it was because the heavy rain was too short.
FIA has to say they have to use Full wets, FIA says you may Not overtake, ect.
Hammie always complayned it was his corner, Prost did the same, now Max is defending a corner and the rules should change.
Lets Go back to old school Racing with gravel outside the track, all drivers Will brake in time to stay on the Track, no discusions!
Exactly. Just put gravel directly next to the track in corners and that problem will be solved. Now they all refuse to back out because they know there’s plenty of tarmac and they can then complain to the stewards they’re being pushed off the track. If there would be gravel, this wouldn’t happen.
"Is Max Verstappen the best wet weather driver of ALL-TIME?" You can definitely make a case for it. When it mattered most, Max came through in brilliant fashion to win the race in horrendeous conditions.
While handing out acolades for wet driving, lets not forget Esteban Ocon and Pierre Gasly. Alpine's driver didn't put a foot wrong either throughout that deluge during the race. In the Cool Down Room after the race, Max said to Ocon he couldn't catch him when Ocon had the lead. It took a safety car to offer the opportunity for Max to get by Ocon. Max put on a master class of wet driving, but other drivers were with him until the track started to dry.
I used to watch f1 ons sky from the Netherlands because I liked how they present. But after what happened 2 weeks long wont be watching f1 on Sky any more
Dont forget Oscar gave points to Norris.
Verstappen earned his points alone.
I love Bernie, but on this she sounds naive about drivers complaining...they do that every race if they think it helps them. Come on lol
Best ever in the rain was Shumacher and Max.
Nope Lewis is the best in the rain
@@jacksteele9788 we have Sky believer.., teammate Button never ever lost from LH in wet conditions, even Button isnt considered a rainmaster...
@@bobkeul7682 Lewis’s win at Silverstone in 2008 is the best wet weather drive of all time.
@@jacksteele9788Best wet weather driver was Stefan Bellof but Max and Senna were close second. Lewis is good but not even in the top fuve
I really respect the opinions and knowledge of Karun and Bernie.
Changing tires under red flag is part of the course, you risk driving on worn tyres but it's part of the game.
Max is in a league of his own! Best driver since Schumacher - if not Senna! Could well be the greatest ever, but needs to finish his career first to judge that.
Nonsense. Senna and Hamilton are far better drivers than schumacher and cheatstappen
Hamilton is not even in the top 5 😂
Piastri was also advocating how bad conditions were while being on the inters as well, so I think that balances out max and ocon also calling for it haha
Yep, yep, I agree. No changing tires under a red flag. Nor under a Safety Car. Nor under a VSC. Nor if there are yellow flags. Gotta keep it fair at all times.
(Sarcasm)
yawn
I like Karun and Bernie. But I would have paid for Hill, Kravitz and Croft. But that's a conspiracy theory I suppose.
Where's Hill?
@@nizar5191 crying at the local
Playground
@BobbyDazzler888 and I was wondering more than 20 years why they avoid talking about Schumacher, Fangio and other non British pilots. Of course they represent only theme self and lot of love for the British People.
on some hill
Practicing his spastic dance moves
Bernie’s explanation why she is no longer hired by one of the F1 team.
I AM SUCH A HUGE FAN OF BERNIE!!!!!!!!!
SHE IS GREAT!!!!!
She beats most pundits and commentators by a large margin
a lot of engineer insight but she explains it in such a normal way, She can reach people the fellow F1 nerds cant. she is a real contribution to the team!
@@huubvelthuis8988 your caps is broken 😂🤡
Norris overtook Piastri 💪🏼
🤣
You forgot the sarcasm tag
Problem with wet races: the full wets are only working when it is heavy rain over a longer period. The moment the track is not soaked the full wets are so fragile they get destroyed within 4 laps. F1 needs better full wets.
This female analyst still can't handle the Max masterclass😅😅😅😅😅
she is british. she is blind.
None of them can but some are better at hiding their frustrations
Shame Damon couldn’t make this one
Really impressive how Karun articulates when he speaks , the pace of his speech, the pauses and all that with his knowledge is a complete package
The king of Kings....even a blind person could see that...
@@Jhhgftghjjj see what ?
No indeed. 😆 whiner of whiners more like!🤣
@@zt2maxthat is lulu44
Sky Sports trying their hardest to let Karun attempt to reverse their now non-existent credibility.
Karun, Brundle and Bernie are the only personalities holding up this joke of a broadcaster right now.
the only sky pundit who's not a joke is Harry Benjamin
Herbert’s crew waited forever to throw that Q Red. Whether it mattered to RBR or not it was incompetent
Max is the rainmaster ... no debate
Sky talking about a red flag possibly tainted his performance is hilarious ..the red flag caused his 17th spot on the grid , funny how nobdoy talks about all the things that were against him ...
Their reporting on Verstappen is always hilariously pathetic
Where pocket holder Hill at?
Practicing his spastic dance moves
Is really true that British media were not present ? Does that include SKY. If that’s true it just screams bias. And then no penalty for a false start???
Hardly any media were in Brazil. During the presser most media were in the pen working
The Dutch media weren’t there either.
With full wets there is no visability anymore because of the big waterdisplacement. Drivers ande camera's wouldn't be able to see anything anymore. Especially with the current vacuüm under the car. It just doesn't work.
Bernie looks and talks as if she just attended a funeral 😂
they buried damon hill yesterday
Max is the best he is the king of the rain
😂😂😂 funny
No it's MSC
The one and only rainmaster!
No the one and only Ayrton Senna
But you’re too young to know who he is
@ I remember send her when he was racing against Nigel Mansell thank you very much and Nigel and Nigel was the king
Damon hill is hiding
Hiding from what? The penalties haven't been rescinded because Verstappen won a race. (LOL, Do you think the excitement of a win somehow makes the previous weekend go away? Use your brain)
Hill doubled his dose of antidepressants but it will take a few weeks to take effect. He'll probably show up again after Abu Dhabi
@@zt2maxYou must have a poster of Hill above your bed
Matt Baker is remarkably ill-informed race after race. Case in point today was the points gap before Max's victory on Sunday. Maybe he should watch a race or 2.
Good idea: Red_flag tyre change should not be counted as mandatory pits stop. - RULE CHANGE PLEASE ! ! !
No schumacher is but max is from the school of schumacher so dont mind if he is named the best
Stefan Bellof was the wet weather goat
Up there while using intermediate tyres. Max and Schumacher had more work ethic compared to their contemporaries in regards to testing and training. Ferrar Msc with his unlimited car testing and Max doing the teams sim test driver role on top of his own hobby sim racing
This reminds me of the 2016 season interview with Kvyat, who said he was busy watching Game of Thrones in the weekend...
Where Max simply stated he was sim racing...
bollocks sky sports f1
Y'know i really liked the brazilian press conference. Wonder who missed it. Don't bother showing up to the rest either
Mate, that was down to the penealty they gave Verstappen. He needed to do community service so he took out the trash from the presser.
@@boozelalasavage 😱
the top 3 drivers all said they were used to wet weather driving. Northern Europe gets a lot of rain.
No Damon Hill?
Did you count how many times Hill was absent after other victories for every interview in total or is this just an example of confirmation-bias which you should google real fast!!
He's only there when he thinks he can gloat about Verstappen's adversity, otherwise he's always at home crying about how unfairly Schumacher treated him 30 years ago
This podcast awfully feels like saving face. First you get all the toxic members of the Sky crew all week. And when they realize they've gone to far, there is Karun and Bernie to save the day, the only two members of Sky I can actually listen to because they don't go along with the bias.
Harry Benjamin is the only truly unbiased pundit and that's why we rarely see him
The best driver to replace Perez is Bottas who is likely to lose his seat and has been a very good supportive teammate to a multi-world champion
Bottas is way worse than Perez
Disgraceful. These Brits cannot handle that Max was just better. Bernie only heard Max calling for a red flag.
If it was a British driver benefiting from the red flag then I guarantee they would definitely be saying that it was fair