For those of you curious what that little hatch was that kept popping open on the side, it's called a blow-in door, and it provides additional air to the engine under certain conditions. edit: apparently the small square door that everyone keeps noticing is used to prevent differential pressure building up between the engine compartment and outside. Thanks @EnglishTurbines for the info!
The small square one is to prevent a pressure differential between outside the aircraft and the engine compartment. Air bleeds in to prevent a vacuum building...It's not for cooling or any other reason. ...🤔😏🇬🇧
I would love a ride in one of these. It would be an honor to throw-up. Kudos to the channel for keeping the audio raw and not adding garbage music to it! 🙂
I duno , have you ever listened to captain lockeed and the star fighters ? Few records on that album that I’d love to listen to strapped into that baby 😂😎
@@royharkins7066 Starfighters Aerospace. @PiercarloCiacchi is a pilot and director of flight operations. Their site doesn't say they take people for joy rides, but it doesn't say they _don't_ take people for joy rides, so I'm guessing it is just a matter of availability (their time, your cash).
the Starfighter's rate of climb has always been one of the most valued attributes of the 104's interceptor pilots, 2' from brake release to reach 33,000 feet ( 10,000 m), still amazing performance today. Greetings from a great Italian fan of the Spillone!
@@gonebabygone4116 The 60,000 number is a peak number - the plane can't maintain that during the whole climb. That number also doesn't include the time spent accelerating down the runway. The F104's peak climb rate probably is probably 40 or 50 thousand.
@@taotoo2 Various sources say 48k - 50k feet/minute for the F-104. F-16 empty/full weights are similar. F-104 had 15,600 pounds thrust with afterburner. F-16 has 17,800 dry and 29,000+ with afterburner. The 5th gen trade some of that juice for silence, lower top speed, but mach 2+ has proven excessive.
When I was a kid we lived next to a Naval Air base in Virginia Beach in the 50s and 60s. I got to see the prop planes and jets. I would lay in bed at night and listen to the howl of these F-104s and other Jets. The sound and rumbles helped me fall asleep.
We lived in Navy housing near Oceana NAS, saw a lot aircraft traffic including a crash on final approach by a jet, don’t know what happened but saw the pilot eject and floating down where he landed about a 1/4 mi away. In about 10 min there were all kinds of Navy vehicles headed to where the plane went down. I was only about 7-8 years old then.
No F-104's at Oceana. That was an Air Force aircraft, not Navy. More likely Grumman F-11-F Tiger or McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom. I lived in VA Beach at 45th and Atlantic in the 50's and 60's. This was the dawn of the supersonic age and the jets out of Oceana would routinely break the sound barrier and rattle our windows. We didn't mind at all. It was the sound of freedom.
@@brucel4677 I lived on Bells rd across from that base from age 5 to 10. From 1957 to 1962. Felt the rattle of windows many times as well. I remember going to sleep listening to that howl many nights.
The F-104 was certainly Mach 2 capable, but it could never cruise at that speed. Basically when reaching Mach 2 (or a little above) you are very low on fuel and the next move is to start a descent for landing. Oh yeah, this is only achievable when clean (no missiles or wing tanks).
Around the same time, the F104 set the world altitude record at 103,000 feet, which stood for nearly 40 years until some kind of a Russian MiG broke it.
@@cll1639 That was Iven Kincheloe who flew 103,000 ft. He was considered the first man in outer space. He later died in the F104 as he took off as a chase plane for another F104.
@@jeffalexander544 Thanks for the reply. I loved the F104; thought it was the best looking jet of all time back when I was a kid. But from what I've heard, it was a double-barrel handful to fly...little more than a J79 engine with a couple of canards hung on it. Sorry to hear about Kincheloe.
I have seen the results of metal fatigue in everything from large thick steel to small copper multi-strand wire breaking at termination points. It amazes me to see how much flexing that jets body is doing, and has been for many years. Tribute to designers that it is still flying.
That is a beautiful jet with a very original paint scheme. Good thinking on somebodies head. Thanks for sharing this! It made my evening TH-cam visit worth doing!
Funny how that camera view makes a tiny “wing” look big. I’ve always loved the F-104. A rocket of a jet with wings. Imagine if it had a modern 20-25,000 LB thrust engine!
The F-104S was the absolute BEST at what it did, and if it was supportable today, would still be in use. The early Mercury and Gemini flight were paced and filmed in their ascent by F-104s...
This aircraft has been criticized because it supposedly can't dogfight. We really don't know, but it was designed as a fast, time to altitude interceptor and that is what it does very well. I believe it was well ahead of it's time and it fulfilled it's intended design parameters. Bravo Kelley Johnson!
I read that one or two of the florida starfighters will come to the airshow near rome for the 100th birthday of the italian airforce. Will you fly one?
@@PiercarloCiacchi I hope to be there, too! I already greeted the Stafighter many years ago during the official AMI show for its retirement: I was pretty sad. But now, I am excited to let my son hear the "sound of freedom" that may times scared me when I was young! Thank you!!!
Thing that impressed me the most is that in a supersonic turn, it will turn INSIDE a F-15's turn radius. Once subsonic the 15 will hammer it in a turn. I talked with one of the F-117 test pilots who was a F-104 driver, for what it was, it was and is impressive.
An example of genius engineering that was ahead of the technology. This could still be in service if it had computer aided fly by wire. The F-104 was great at smooth flight and demonstrations it was “twitchy” in chaotic situations.
There are two openings in the back of the plane, one almost circular that closes at the beginning of the clip and a rectangular one that keeps opening and closing all the time. What are they for?
Don't know for sure, but guessing they're cooling -- pretty sure the oil cooler is back near that rearmost rectangular one -- and/or bleed-air related; the jet has several subsystems that are operated by air that's "bled" from the J79 to operate stuff like the a/c, canopy seal, demist/rain clearing, gun purge, etc. Someone qualified will be along shortly :)
@@Wikkus yes, almost....I was just trying to explain that to another friend here above...I will copy it here as well, hopefully it is clear enough lol. Kinda of yes! So, LONG STORY SHORT, the engine is fit in the airframe in such a way that there is a small space between the 'head" of the engine and the actual "air intake tube", so air can actually bypass the whole engine and exit around the exhaust nozzles. And yes that is for cooling the engine compartment. Those small doors, are spring loaded in the "closed" position, those allow for a relief and extra air at LOW AIRSPEED, believe it or not, at low airspeeds (below 350 Knots approx), the pressure build up in the air intake (because of the speed of the aircraft) is actually LOWER than the actual "demand" of air from the engine. So the engine is trying to suck so much air that it ends up sucking air also from the engine compartment...so every time that is the case, those doors are naturally opened (by the lower pressure) allowing fresh air to enter the engine compartment. Curiously, that air travels forward to the "head" of the engine and get sucked in the first stage of the compressor.... I hope i was able to explain the trick a little bit...
Called Blow-in doors. Here’s the explanation Some inlets incorporate blow-in doors to provide additional airflow during high thrust conditions at takeoff. Inlet efficiency is generally characterized by stagnation pressure recovery - a measure of the available energy in the air that actually makes it into the compressor.
Kinda of yes! So, LONG STORY SHORT, the engine is fit in the airframe in such a way that there is a small space between the 'head" of the engine and the actual "air intake tube", so air can actually bypass the whole engine and exit around the exhaust nozzles. And yes that is for cooling the engine compartment. Those small doors, are spring loaded in the "closed" position, those allow for a relief and extra air at LOW AIRSPEED, believe it or not, at low airspeeds (below 350 Knots approx), the pressure build up in the air intake (because of the speed of the aircraft) is actually LOWER than the actual "demand" of air from the engine. So the engine is trying to suck so much air that it ends up sucking air also from the engine compartment...so every time that is the case, those doors are naturally opened (by the lower pressure) allowing fresh air to enter the engine compartment. Curiously, that air travels forward to the "head" of the engine and get sucked in the first stage of the compressor.... I hope i was able to explain the trick a little bit...
An F-104 was the first jet I really felt pounding my chest on a low pass + climb, that you never forget... It literally is a rocket with two tiny wings 🙂
I grew up with the Century Series Fighters coming on line. I loved them all but my favorite was the F-100 Super Sabre. Don't know why, just a pretty airplane. Had plastic models of them all!
It's because it's designer was North American. Edgar Schmued was the head designer of the North American P-51 Mustang, F-82 Twin Mustang, F-86 Sabre, and F-100 Super Sabre. He later worked for Northrup heading engineering teams that designed the F-5 and T-38 Talon trainer
We grew up hearing the B52’s while SAC. I miss the days. They used to train pilots in water landings by parachute barge then. Right off Turkey point. Good memories.
I remember seeing these around 1980 at Luke. The last of the USAF jets were painted up for the German Air Force just as they were departing for the last time.
Chuck Yeager did that in an NF-104A, a variant of the F-104 that was used for high-altitude testing, if I remember correctly. And he got it into a flat spin and bailed out. He climbed straight up, as high as he could get it to go, then lost control.
That really happened. Nov 1st, 1963. He lost the aircraft, but broke an altitude record and one speed-at-altitude record in the process. There were a number of science and engineering related facts learned from that event. Very useful flight and crash.
@@lexluthermiester Interestingly, he did it "off the books," so to speak. He broke the rules and took the plane for a 'joy ride' cuz he was pissed that he wasn't chosen for the Mercury program. He didn't file a flight plan, and flew without permission. At least according to the film adaptation of the event.
@@-108- That was a movie, written for drama. In reality, it was a fully approved flight, it just wasn't a "planned" test flight. Hollywood embellished on that fact a bit.
@@-108-: Never get your "facts" from Anything, out of Hollywood. In the wrong situation, it could cost you your life. In the 60s. I got better info from comic books.
I was just trying to explain that to another friend here above...I will copy it here as well, hopefully it is clear enough lol. Kinda of yes! So, LONG STORY SHORT, the engine is fit in the airframe in such a way that there is a small space between the 'head" of the engine and the actual "air intake tube", so air can actually bypass the whole engine and exit around the exhaust nozzles. And yes that is for cooling the engine compartment. Those small doors, are spring loaded in the "closed" position, those allow for a relief and extra air at LOW AIRSPEED, believe it or not, at low airspeeds (below 350 Knots approx), the pressure build up in the air intake (because of the speed of the aircraft) is actually LOWER than the actual "demand" of air from the engine. So the engine is trying to suck so much air that it ends up sucking air also from the engine compartment...so every time that is the case, those doors are naturally opened (by the lower pressure) allowing fresh air to enter the engine compartment. Curiously, that air travels forward to the "head" of the engine and get sucked in the first stage of the compressor.... I hope i was able to explain the trick a little bit...
@@PiercarloCiacchi Thanks - a simple solution. This design to bypass the engine and go straight to the exhaust nozzles seems similar to the SR 71 engine design for high speed flight above Mach 1.
The F-104 Starfighter was referred to as the Widow maker, due to so many accidents. 292 of 916 units were lost due to crashes. Not this guy though...very likely this jet has updated avionics.
@@kmfiz I have a thousand hours in the Zipper...does that count? Right after takeoff you could go vertical for about five seconds after the gear and flaps were up. It simply does not have the thrust-to-weight ration you need for that. That's what Piercarlo Ciacchi (above) meant.
@@brownieparker3782 Well my original question was if it’s comparable to the F-16 for vertical climb performance. Do you have time in the Viper as well?
1:43 is that the shock wave that would make prop fighters lose aileron authority? The supersonic air over the wing during subsonic flight? If it is, it's amazing to actually see it.
I was just answering the same to "theflyingfool", so i copy it here as well.......Kinda of yes! So, LONG STORY SHORT, the engine is fit in the airframe in such a way that there is a small space between the 'head" of the engine and the actual "air intake tube", so air can actually bypass the whole engine and exit around the exhaust nozzles. And yes that is for cooling the engine compartment. Those small doors, are spring loaded in the "closed" position, those allow for a relief and extra air at LOW AIRSPEED, believe it or not, at low airspeeds (below 350 Knots approx), the pressure build up in the air intake (because of the speed of the aircraft) is actually LOWER than the actual "demand" of air from the engine. So the engine is trying to suck so much air that it ends up sucking air also from the engine compartment...so every time that is the case, those doors are naturally opened (by the lower pressure) allowing fresh air to enter the engine compartment. Curiously, that air travels forward to the "head" of the engine and get sucked in the first stage of the compressor.... I hope i was able to explain the trick a little bit...
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For those of you curious what that little hatch was that kept popping open on the side, it's called a blow-in door, and it provides additional air to the engine under certain conditions.
edit: apparently the small square door that everyone keeps noticing is used to prevent differential pressure building up between the engine compartment and outside. Thanks @EnglishTurbines for the info!
Thank you.
to keep it from stalling.
Thanks I was wondering what that was.
Exactly what I came to the comments looking for, thank you!
The small square one is to prevent a pressure differential between outside the aircraft and the engine compartment. Air bleeds in to prevent a vacuum building...It's not for cooling or any other reason. ...🤔😏🇬🇧
I would love a ride in one of these. It would be an honor to throw-up. Kudos to the channel for keeping the audio raw and not adding garbage music to it! 🙂
I duno , have you ever listened to captain lockeed and the star fighters ? Few records on that album that I’d love to listen to strapped into that baby 😂😎
I believe you can ride in that exact 104, I had a friend who was given a gift ride in it. But I think it is pricey, just go to their website.
Website ?
@@royharkins7066 Starfighters Aerospace. @PiercarloCiacchi is a pilot and director of flight operations. Their site doesn't say they take people for joy rides, but it doesn't say they _don't_ take people for joy rides, so I'm guessing it is just a matter of availability (their time, your cash).
There are such things as TF-104s, although whether or not there are any airworthy examples is another question.
Kudos to the cameraman. Holding for dear life with simple straps on the pilon for that amazing view.
So steady as well! Great job sir!
person is just straddling the wingtip tank
That explains the camarsman's recent hair style.
The cameraman never dies. 😀
Pylon
the Starfighter's rate of climb has always been one of the most valued attributes of the 104's interceptor pilots, 2' from brake release to reach 33,000 feet ( 10,000 m), still amazing performance today.
Greetings from a great Italian fan of the Spillone!
I got a ride in a CF104 at Cold Lake, Alberta and the pilot did a touch and go then climbed to 30,000 ft for the downwind on the next circuit.
Modern fighters can do around 60,000 FPM climbs. F-104 was a wild ride for its time, but that was 1960s, right?
@@gonebabygone4116 The 60,000 number is a peak number - the plane can't maintain that during the whole climb. That number also doesn't include the time spent accelerating down the runway. The F104's peak climb rate probably is probably 40 or 50 thousand.
@@taotoo2 Various sources say 48k - 50k feet/minute for the F-104. F-16 empty/full weights are similar. F-104 had 15,600 pounds thrust with afterburner. F-16 has 17,800 dry and 29,000+ with afterburner. The 5th gen trade some of that juice for silence, lower top speed, but mach 2+ has proven excessive.
What does that do to the ears of a pilot? Pressure for me driving up a mountain is a surprise for me!
When I was a kid we lived next to a Naval Air base in Virginia Beach in the 50s and 60s. I got to see the prop planes and jets. I would lay in bed at night and listen to the howl of these F-104s and other Jets. The sound and rumbles helped me fall asleep.
If it was a Naval Air Station the likelihood of it being a F104 would be pretty low.
We lived in Navy housing near Oceana NAS, saw a lot aircraft traffic including a crash on final approach by a jet, don’t know what happened but saw the pilot eject and floating down where he landed about a 1/4 mi away. In about 10 min there were all kinds of Navy vehicles headed to where the plane went down. I was only about 7-8 years old then.
No F-104's at Oceana. That was an Air Force aircraft, not Navy. More likely Grumman F-11-F Tiger or McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom. I lived in VA Beach at 45th and Atlantic in the 50's and 60's. This was the dawn of the supersonic age and the jets out of Oceana would routinely break the sound barrier and rattle our windows. We didn't mind at all. It was the sound of freedom.
@@brucel4677 I lived on Bells rd across from that base from age 5 to 10. From 1957 to 1962. Felt the rattle of windows many times as well. I remember going to sleep listening to that howl many nights.
Let's face it: Some people are blessed with the privilege of doing fun things like this.
A lot of hard work went into achieving that blessing, too.
luck, timing and hard work.
If ONLY this had like REALLY EPIC MUSIC or SAPPY PIANO MUSIC or CLAIRE DE LUNE .... said no one. cooooooooool video
I totally agree!
Find that music and play it in one tab while you watch this in another.
@@AmericanMadeMudthe point was that music isn't needed
The Right Stuff, no?
@@Jatzki My point is you don't have to listen to it. Have agency, control your own environment, you don't have to take it.
In 1959, F-104s were flying at Mach 2. That’s going from Ft Walton FL to Miami FL at 60,000 feet in about 20 minutes. That’s haulin’ the mail!
The F-104 was certainly Mach 2 capable, but it could never cruise at that speed. Basically when reaching Mach 2 (or a little above) you are very low on fuel and the next move is to start a descent for landing. Oh yeah, this is only achievable when clean (no missiles or wing tanks).
Around the same time, the F104 set the world altitude record at 103,000 feet, which stood for nearly 40 years until some kind of a Russian MiG broke it.
@@cll1639 That was Iven Kincheloe who flew 103,000 ft. He was considered the first man in outer space. He later died in the F104 as he took off as a chase plane for another F104.
@@jeffalexander544 Thanks for the reply. I loved the F104; thought it was the best looking jet of all time back when I was a kid. But from what I've heard, it was a double-barrel handful to fly...little more than a J79 engine with a couple of canards hung on it. Sorry to hear about Kincheloe.
It just looks hard to handle . What a beautiful beast
One of the coolest looking planes ever!
it's just a rocket with slightly bigger fins.! but yeah 1960s aviation was wild
@Dangerous_Drivers_of_California
Agreed. Right up there with the SR-71…..another Kelly Johnson masterpiece.
Absolutely magic! Love the explanation of the blow-in doors too 👍
I've always had a soft spot for these incredible aircraft.
absolutely beautiful. always nice to see starfighter content on youtube
oh hey I didn't know you were an appreciator of this channel
@@kingghidorah8106 i got it in my recommended lol
The most impressive thing about this is the mount holding the camera.
It was actually a person taped to the wing holding the camera so even more impressive.
Climbing like a homesick angel!.
I have seen the results of metal fatigue in everything from large thick steel to small copper multi-strand wire breaking at termination points. It amazes me to see how much flexing that jets body is doing, and has been for many years. Tribute to designers that it is still flying.
That wing is designed to flex. Lookup the Lockheed Electra wing failures for more on wing spar fatigue.
My all-time most beautiful jet.
L’aereo più straordinario che sia mai esistito! ❤
"Up, up the long, delirious, burning blue...Where never lark, nor even eagle flew" Love it, you lucky bugger.
That is a beautiful jet with a very original paint scheme. Good thinking on somebodies head. Thanks for sharing this! It made my evening TH-cam visit worth doing!
Funny how that camera view makes a tiny “wing” look big. I’ve always loved the F-104. A rocket of a jet with wings. Imagine if it had a modern 20-25,000 LB thrust engine!
The leading edge of that little wing is very sharp, just ask anyone who has accidentally bumped into one.....ouch!
The F-104S was the absolute BEST at what it did, and if it was supportable today, would still be in use. The early Mercury and Gemini flight were paced and filmed in their ascent by F-104s...
Beautiful jet and unique airframe with a very cool nickname: "The Widowmaker".
Also "Ground Stake", "Aluminum Death Tube".
The Germans gave it that name after it killed so many of their pilots... they got the hang of it eventually
@@richardpark3054rather quick pencil
Just the german ones because for some reason they wanted to turn a light high speed interceptor into a ground attack aircraft.
@@spazmonkey2131 I never understood that. Like, just use a phantom or something, just anything but a Starfighter.
That takes skill to fly and hold that selfie stick.
And a damned looong arm. 😁✌🖖
Wow. I’m at a loss for words. Thank you for this.
Kinda fun watching the blown-in doors cycle. Not quite vertical through the clouds, though. Great video !
This aircraft has been criticized because it supposedly can't dogfight. We really don't know, but it was designed as a fast, time to altitude interceptor and that is what it does very well. I believe it was well ahead of it's time and it fulfilled it's intended design parameters. Bravo Kelley Johnson!
I read that one or two of the florida starfighters will come to the airshow near rome for the 100th birthday of the italian airforce. Will you fly one?
....apparently yes I will be there ;-)
@@PiercarloCiacchi awesome, will be there too hoping to get some F104 footage 😅
@@PiercarloCiacchi I hope to be there, too! I already greeted the Stafighter many years ago during the official AMI show for its retirement: I was pretty sad. But now, I am excited to let my son hear the "sound of freedom" that may times scared me when I was young! Thank you!!!
As a young boy in the early sixties I had a poster of the F104 Starfighter in my room. Awesome to see one not in a museum
Cloud pierce angle amazing
That hole in the side of the fuselage - For a minute I was like, "Is that a Boeing Starfighter"?
Impressive how quick the gear comes up
Kelly Johnson - another great design. Genius.
"Does the color of the sky mean anything special to you?"
"It does to me. A hell of a lot"
Brutal man, awesome climb performance, sharp leading edges!
Going mach2 in a starfighter would definitely be one of the most fun aviation experiences
That "flap door" that opens and closes to equalize pressure looks like a Boeing design.Ready to leave the aircraft at any time....😂
Thanks for posting that. I guessed right. 😁✌🖖
An incredibly dangerous plane. Affectionately known by US Air Force crews as The Widow Maker.
In Italy, his nickname was "bara volante" (Flying coffin)
What an amazing machine! Thanks for sharing!
Thing that impressed me the most is that in a supersonic turn, it will turn INSIDE a F-15's turn radius. Once subsonic the 15 will hammer it in a turn. I talked with one of the F-117 test pilots who was a F-104 driver, for what it was, it was and is impressive.
Really? I didn't know that, I was under the impression that nothing could out turn an F-15. Except modern fighters!
Awesome video! So nice to see my favourite jet in its right element,
An example of genius engineering that was ahead of the technology. This could still be in service if it had computer aided fly by wire.
The F-104 was great at smooth flight and demonstrations it was “twitchy” in chaotic situations.
Neat! Your videos are both informative and breathtaking. Really like your work.
Aeritalia made the most powerful 104s ever
They had the best 104s pilots as well. I have seen them during a Ramstein Air Show.
F-104S
Still used the GE J79 engine, and was still a Lockheed design.
@@jlalbee Lockheed designed it, Italia made it perfect
Top topper. Questa livrea è sempre molto bella. Grazie.
Meraviglia Piercarlo, spero di vederti a Pratica a giugno! Mandi dal Friul!
They need this ride at Disneyland
I loved seeing this bird fly around from the NOTU.
There are two openings in the back of the plane, one almost circular that closes at the beginning of the clip and a rectangular one that keeps opening and closing all the time. What are they for?
@@TeemarkConvair always! 😉
The pilot in this video does a full walkaround of the aircraft.
th-cam.com/video/_p5qKcWR4Is/w-d-xo.html
The ducts are around 35:00 mark.
Don't know for sure, but guessing they're cooling -- pretty sure the oil cooler is back near that rearmost rectangular one -- and/or bleed-air related; the jet has several subsystems that are operated by air that's "bled" from the J79 to operate stuff like the a/c, canopy seal, demist/rain clearing, gun purge, etc.
Someone qualified will be along shortly :)
@@Wikkus yes, almost....I was just trying to explain that to another friend here above...I will copy it here as well, hopefully it is clear enough lol.
Kinda of yes! So, LONG STORY SHORT, the engine is fit in the airframe in such a way that there is a small space between the 'head" of the engine and the actual "air intake tube", so air can actually bypass the whole engine and exit around the exhaust nozzles. And yes that is for cooling the engine compartment. Those small doors, are spring loaded in the "closed" position, those allow for a relief and extra air at LOW AIRSPEED, believe it or not, at low airspeeds (below 350 Knots approx), the pressure build up in the air intake (because of the speed of the aircraft) is actually LOWER than the actual "demand" of air from the engine. So the engine is trying to suck so much air that it ends up sucking air also from the engine compartment...so every time that is the case, those doors are naturally opened (by the lower pressure) allowing fresh air to enter the engine compartment.
Curiously, that air travels forward to the "head" of the engine and get sucked in the first stage of the compressor....
I hope i was able to explain the trick a little bit...
Called Blow-in doors. Here’s the explanation
Some inlets incorporate blow-in doors to provide additional airflow during high thrust conditions at takeoff. Inlet efficiency is generally characterized by stagnation pressure recovery - a measure of the available energy in the air that actually makes it into the compressor.
The real hero of this video is that GoPro mount. 🤣
Thank You Kelly Johnson
the Missile with a Man in it. One of the most awesome fighters ever produced.
Chuck Norris did an incredible job of holding onto the plane's right wing while also holding the camera to film this amazing video.
Lol Chuck Norris would probably crap himself or pee his pants if he was in a fighter jet or anything like this..
@@tbas8741: Good ol' "Walker Texas Jackhole"
@@zapa1pnt Exactly its all talk and TV character not real.
Just like how gay people put on a fake Camp Voice and ACT Flamboyant
Excellent video ! Must nice to fly such an engine with rocket wings.
The F-104 looks fast even when it's in the hangar.
If I had an 104 I would call it a spacefighter or a spaceship
Awesome! What is the little door that opens occasionally on the top aft empennage? Is it for bleed air for the engine?
it's called a blow-in door. provides extra air to the engine inlet to help prevent compressor stall.
@@dave928Is it actuator controlled, or spring?
@@ronjon7942 usually spring loaded.
my basic training squadron's "mascot" aircraft....sharp leading edged wings on that badboy!
What's with the small trap door that opens and closed, back towards the tail?
some kinda extra air intake for engine
Superb! What was that little door on the back of the fuselage flapping open for? Some sort of ventilation system?
Kinda of yes! So, LONG STORY SHORT, the engine is fit in the airframe in such a way that there is a small space between the 'head" of the engine and the actual "air intake tube", so air can actually bypass the whole engine and exit around the exhaust nozzles. And yes that is for cooling the engine compartment. Those small doors, are spring loaded in the "closed" position, those allow for a relief and extra air at LOW AIRSPEED, believe it or not, at low airspeeds (below 350 Knots approx), the pressure build up in the air intake (because of the speed of the aircraft) is actually LOWER than the actual "demand" of air from the engine. So the engine is trying to suck so much air that it ends up sucking air also from the engine compartment...so every time that is the case, those doors are naturally opened (by the lower pressure) allowing fresh air to enter the engine compartment.
Curiously, that air travels forward to the "head" of the engine and get sucked in the first stage of the compressor....
I hope i was able to explain the trick a little bit...
@@PiercarloCiacchi Thanks! Excellent explanation!
Cool commander a taste of heaven
Really beautiful footage.
Thank you.
An F-104 was the first jet I really felt pounding my chest on a low pass + climb, that you never forget... It literally is a rocket with two tiny wings 🙂
Perhaps too tiny, I've thought.
One of the most beautiful aircraft in the sky, kinda a death trap at times, but hey what's beauty without some danger.
Thanks for sharing, just awesome!
Beautiful
Crystal clear video
I grew up with the Century Series Fighters coming on line. I loved them all but my favorite was the F-100 Super Sabre. Don't know why, just a pretty airplane. Had plastic models of them all!
It's because it's designer was North American. Edgar Schmued was the head designer of the North American P-51 Mustang, F-82 Twin Mustang, F-86 Sabre, and F-100 Super Sabre. He later worked for Northrup heading engineering teams that designed the F-5 and T-38 Talon trainer
That, actually, was beautiful..!
Got to see 104 takeoffs and vertical climes out of sight at Homestead AFB in late 69
We grew up hearing the B52’s while SAC. I miss the days. They used to train pilots in water landings by parachute barge then.
Right off Turkey point. Good memories.
What a plane!
"It's the new one, with the big engine..."
Got any Beemans, Ridley..?"
I remember seeing these around 1980 at Luke. The last of the USAF jets were painted up for the German Air Force just as they were departing for the last time.
omg this is looks like a successful movie scene
Chuck Yeager did that in an NF-104A, a variant of the F-104 that was used for high-altitude testing, if I remember correctly. And he got it into a flat spin and bailed out.
He climbed straight up, as high as he could get it to go, then lost control.
That really happened. Nov 1st, 1963. He lost the aircraft, but broke an altitude record and one speed-at-altitude record in the process. There were a number of science and engineering related facts learned from that event. Very useful flight and crash.
@@lexluthermiester Interestingly, he did it "off the books," so to speak. He broke the rules and took the plane for a 'joy ride' cuz he was pissed that he wasn't chosen for the Mercury program. He didn't file a flight plan, and flew without permission. At least according to the film adaptation of the event.
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That was a movie, written for drama. In reality, it was a fully approved flight, it just wasn't a "planned" test flight. Hollywood embellished on that fact a bit.
@@lexluthermiester Figgered as much. Friggin Hollywood.
@@-108-: Never get your "facts" from Anything, out of Hollywood.
In the wrong situation, it could cost you your life.
In the 60s. I got better info from comic books.
beautiful machine.
That's some fantastic duct tape holding the camera on.
Ciao Comandante,saluti da Codroipo ❤
Kelly Johnson was a genius!!
At one time this was the world's fastest and highest flying plane, and may still hold the world low altitude record.
that's insane plane
Where is this ? I know there were a few 104’s in Germany. Beautiful aircraft, a flying engine basically.
Buona Pasqua Piercarlo !
It was known as "The missle with a man in it".
F-104 . The " Missile with a Man in it " . Alternatively referred to as " The Flying Coffin " . Remarkable performer in its Day , for sure .
Also, ”Lawn Dart”
Dad always said that Mom was a remarkable performer.
@@moistmike4150 . Ha Fucking Ha .
@@iqqmut79 For Canada.
Outstanding! What is the purpose panel that opens periodically on top of the engine? You know the “Kelly Johnson” vent…
I was just trying to explain that to another friend here above...I will copy it here as well, hopefully it is clear enough lol.
Kinda of yes! So, LONG STORY SHORT, the engine is fit in the airframe in such a way that there is a small space between the 'head" of the engine and the actual "air intake tube", so air can actually bypass the whole engine and exit around the exhaust nozzles. And yes that is for cooling the engine compartment. Those small doors, are spring loaded in the "closed" position, those allow for a relief and extra air at LOW AIRSPEED, believe it or not, at low airspeeds (below 350 Knots approx), the pressure build up in the air intake (because of the speed of the aircraft) is actually LOWER than the actual "demand" of air from the engine. So the engine is trying to suck so much air that it ends up sucking air also from the engine compartment...so every time that is the case, those doors are naturally opened (by the lower pressure) allowing fresh air to enter the engine compartment.
Curiously, that air travels forward to the "head" of the engine and get sucked in the first stage of the compressor....
I hope i was able to explain the trick a little bit...
@@PiercarloCiacchi Thanks - a simple solution. This design to bypass the engine and go straight to the exhaust nozzles seems similar to the SR 71 engine design for high speed flight above Mach 1.
@@PiercarloCiacchi Is it this arrangement that gives the Starfighter it's "howl" sound?
Che bello lo SPILLONE !!!!!!!
Chasing the angels!
Near vertical . . .A great video.
The F-104 Starfighter was referred to as the Widow maker, due to so many accidents. 292 of 916 units were lost due to crashes. Not this guy though...very likely this jet has updated avionics.
Almost into space! 😁👍
Best Scale RC take-off ive ever seen. Nice.
Wonderful, more please
what a rocket ship j79 engine
Da questa inquadratura l'ala sembra pure grande
Beautiful plane. 👍🏻
Awesome Piercarlo! Can the 104 takeoff and go vertical right away like an F-16?
Yes but just like the F16, it will last not for too long.
No
@@brownieparker3782 LOL, I think I’ll take the pilots word over yours.
@@kmfiz I have a thousand hours in the Zipper...does that count? Right after takeoff you could go vertical for about five seconds after the gear and flaps were up. It simply does not have the thrust-to-weight ration you need for that. That's what Piercarlo Ciacchi (above) meant.
@@brownieparker3782 Well my original question was if it’s comparable to the F-16 for vertical climb performance. Do you have time in the Viper as well?
WOOOOOOOOO!!!!! 🤟🛩
1:43 is that the shock wave that would make prop fighters lose aileron authority?
The supersonic air over the wing during subsonic flight?
If it is, it's amazing to actually see it.
What a ride !!
Very cool👍
What is the little hatch that keeps opening and closing, near the start of the base of the vertical stabilizer?
I was just answering the same to "theflyingfool", so i copy it here as well.......Kinda of yes! So, LONG STORY SHORT, the engine is fit in the airframe in such a way that there is a small space between the 'head" of the engine and the actual "air intake tube", so air can actually bypass the whole engine and exit around the exhaust nozzles. And yes that is for cooling the engine compartment. Those small doors, are spring loaded in the "closed" position, those allow for a relief and extra air at LOW AIRSPEED, believe it or not, at low airspeeds (below 350 Knots approx), the pressure build up in the air intake (because of the speed of the aircraft) is actually LOWER than the actual "demand" of air from the engine. So the engine is trying to suck so much air that it ends up sucking air also from the engine compartment...so every time that is the case, those doors are naturally opened (by the lower pressure) allowing fresh air to enter the engine compartment.
Curiously, that air travels forward to the "head" of the engine and get sucked in the first stage of the compressor....
I hope i was able to explain the trick a little bit...