Short Sharp Shock
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Young people describe the short sharp shock treatment - does it really deter them from crime?
Documentary in the 'Just Williams' series. Youngsters who have been sentenced to a Whitelaw spell of detention at Haslar, near Gosport, tell what they feel about it, and we see how this sort of punishment is organised. How much does it deter potential criminals ? Good film for discussion on crime and punishment.
Made in 1983 this film reflects the cultural attitudes, medical procedures and language of the time it was made. The imagery and film quality may not be to modern standards. But the issues raised are timeless.
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I was at Haslar in 1975. Benny hill, Toy soldier were two screws. Bentley dorm. I held the record time around the Oval mile.
81-82. I got my my mile down from 6:30 to 5:29. Benny hill stabbed me with a red biro at reception. Samways used to dish out massive hand whacks on bare backs for any misdemeanour during the day if he remembered. I was in the loom shop then kitchen.
There was a PTI who came in and said “ my name is bastard and I’m going to prove it” some old duffer with a military number and blood group tattooed on his arm. As a green tie we got to see portable colour tv in association, Magnum PI Sunday night.
There in 87 pompey boy here 🤣
8 weeks 5 days in 1980 was out for 6 months and ended up in Brixton, didn't learn eff all but they didn't catch me so easy after doing Haslar
Benny Hill , CJ "Creeping Jesus" he was a landing screw in Winchester 4 years later, chalky white, donkey in the garden..
I did two consecutive 6 month periods at send detention in 1979 I found the hardest part the physical education That to me was the only shock to my system the actual environment I was used to from an early age of children’s homes send to me overall was a regimented holiday camp and probably had no effect over me at all if any thing taught me how to keep stuff clean and tidy lol
Didn't work for me, did two months at North sea in 1981, it would have had more effect on me if they released me after a week as I found that to be the hardest. Trouble is you get used to it after that and it doesn't seem so bad. Would have been much more effective if the short sharp shock was much shorter so as you don't get used to it and leave the place in shock after a week, I feel that would have sorted me out, unfortunately it took another 5 years of in and out of prison before I finally grew up and settled down. Would love to see them come back for shorter terms to put some of these bad boys in their place, say a week for first time and if you re-offend within a year of release back you go for a much longer stint.
totally agree, it worked for me because I had prospects on the out but the harder lads who had shit lives couldn't give a toss and when I was in it was coming upto Christmas and the Manchester riots happened and then they stopped shouting at us. Works for some.
yes,youre exactly right
That’s exactly what I thought, if I’d been released after a week I’d never have committed another crime again, but as it happened I did and ended up in Portland Borstal in 83-84. What a moron,
I was there in 81. In L and L dorm
I was in L and L 1985-86
I was in Kidlingont Detention Centre in Oxford at the age of 15 in October 1980 for 3 months. Whilst I was in there, there was a National prison strike. I also remember the BBC came and filmed a documentary about The Short Sharp Shock - I'm assuming it was part of this documentary, but I have yet to find any footage from Kidlington. Brings back memories looking at this footage as has been a while. The film Scum had just been released and I watched it just before going down! ...( I wasn't looking forward to it). I got especially nervous when I was assigned to work in the greenhouse!!!! That time inside sorted me out. Have never been in trouble since. I remember one kid getting released, and he had nobody to pick him up, so he stole a car to get home! and ended up back inside - sad.
I was in Kidlington [campsfireld house] in 1977, it was harsh.
@@fivethumbsfrank I was in Portland HMP in 1991 , A regime totally built up around bullying a yp , they were horrible cunts, and it didn’t work, when I went back to jail in the mid 90s as an adult I met nearly every YP I knew when I was a kid.
Yep I was there in 82 and again in 83, I suppose you remember Sheriff and Morton the Gym Screws, at the start of every gym class, you lined up in the corridor and the screw would say run on the spot and then shout and sprint lol
@@adamroberts2354 Yes..... I remember Morton! Can't remember the name of the other gym screw but he was a nasty piece of work - he put me in the hospital for a week.
@@seansquire6020 Sherriff but that was in 1982
I wish they recommended the Army after. Instead, let out to nothingness!
No regrets though. First time in my life, I felt happy, confident and in a disciplined environment. I'd have been happy to move on in the same way. I thrived on the entire nature of organised 24/7 ! I had purpose
Your home life must have been terrible.
Eastwood Park 1983 @ age 14, pretty grim to say the least.
I was there in 1975 aged 14, horrible bully’s, I got battered and was in hospital for three days, they said I was attacked by a couple of lads, who they got to admit to it. I lost four days and they got an extra month. Lots of law suits against them going on. Eastwood park, Falfield, wooton under Edge. Never forgot it
I was there in 1974, awful place, still had nightmares about it for years . Brutality every minute of every day . If the truth ever came out every officer would be jailed. Enough said.
"I mean, they're not gunna kill ya, so if you give 'em a quick short, sharp, shock, they don't do it again. Dig it? I mean he get off lightly, 'cos I would've given him a thrashing - I only hit him once! It was only a difference of right and wrong, innit. I mean good manners don't cost nothing do they, eh?"
Had to post that.
Today usa be like thats 5-10 for way less.
done my bit there as well, the mile and cross country runs when a blue tie ,was torture ,the slaps too :)
20 times Running around a field.... Circuit training.... Trenching and running all the time was quite tiring.
Samways dished out the slaps, we did 44 laps of the football field 8 miles for blue ties. But I think there was another routine of a lap then a circuit, then a lap then a circuit. Red ties had circuit training, it was fucking freezing, the winter of 81-82. Running round in a vest and shorts. I got 5p fine for dust on the bed frame. Saturday tea was awful. Boiled egg and 2 slices of bread and a round of margarine. Don’t make a sandwich, don’t rest elbows on table. And if they needed anyone for pot wash and no one had played up the SO would shout “ no body touch any part of your face or head” then they’d just wait a few seconds and catch someone scratching his nose and he’d be on pot wash or scrubbing.
K74102 Sir . anyone remember reception for new arrivals benny hill and samways tossing a coin on whos going to cut hair 🤣🤣
@@colinoconnell2910 Benny hill stabbed me with a red biro in reception, ( forgot to say sir). But some other little bloke dark hair and a big hooter cut my hair, he wasn’t too bad. Samways was just plain nasty.
Did two spells at Whatton in 1980-81.
Remember talking to some lad about music and what you listen too.
I was in to spandau etc etc at the time.
Silly bollox who i was talking too said he loved listening to the Nolan Sister's!!
We never became friends!!
Who remembers the P.E teacher? An ex SAS brutal muthafucka with his cane! Circuit training was mental, as you looked through the fence and saw the Funfair at Southsea.
Remember 'SWEATS' on the A-Dorm ...with the 'A' team??? - that SASQUATCH geyzer and that Hybrid between Freddy Mercury and a SPANISH Prison Officer in a Place for BAD BANDIDOS!!!
The ex sas guy must be same one as we had ,you say with a cain under his arm , as I was in feltham borstal in 76,77 and that’s got to be same guy
There was a mr Bryan or Bryant PTI he’s in the video at the beginning. But there was some old fucker with a bald head came in and shouted my name is bastard and I’m going to prove it, he had a military number and a blood group tattooed on his arm, Maybe it was him. He actually did prove to us that he was a bastard. The circuits were a minute on each station 3 times around or 15 reps on each. Christmas we had a bench press competition, I came 3rd with 200 pounds at a weight of 158 pounds.
Hi the man at the top ! Who said it didn’t work for him ! I did Hasler to ! It’s true the first month was tough !! Very ! But after we got very fit we were ok ! We knew the routine ! But will always remain a interesting part of my life ! In another life !! I was there in 82 I think ! Anyway life’s good now living in the south of France ! And hopefully it did keep some away from the dead end street of crime !!
Seems like your doing well now....why did they close these places down...Seems like it worked
Got sentence to haslar from Plymouth Devon magistrates court for A B H on Union Street in October 1979 3 months, did 8 weeks that was enough for me.
Does it work
Can anyone tell me please, did you get issued with a radio, in dc, borstal, and what radio station did you guys listen to? Many thanks. Lee, rowner, gosport
That little concorde plane was really fast lol
I did my DC at Blantyre House in goudhurst kent april 1980
I was there same year ... Blantyre stew was memorable
Was slater still there
Yes slater was at Blantyre House I met him again at Finnamore Wood Borstal where he worked after leaving BLANTYRE HOUSE
1977, i remember Benny Hill, Hartly, and the Penguin, also the PTI calling everyone a sack of spew.
The old bastard used to spit when he was talking to you old get
@@terrypotter8198 always had white foam in the corner of his mouth.
Hi buddy that benny hill did my reception. What a cunt. Pulled me earing out shaved off me blonde lox and punched me..like to see him now 😂😂
i was in Haslar in November/December 86, remember the 1 mile on the oval, green ties, brown ties and the dodgy PO that touched the lads up at night, happy days eh.
3 months of hell
I was in Eastwood Park late 69 early 70
17 to 21 I left school when I was 15 I had done two DCs by then whatton DC in Nottingham and campsfield house Kidlington Oxfordshire 👌🏴
MO 5875 Knight sir, went to the dentist with tooth ache, he ripped it out, but the novocaine got me out of pt that day.
I was MO5192, must have been there around same time as you, oh how I miss laying out those sunday kits for inspection, even remember my kit No, 54
I did 2 followed by 4 months in Whatton DC in 1987 to 1988 and I fucking loved every minute of it to be honest
I WAS THERE IN '84!!! ...K75653 BOOTH!!! (Loom Shop) ...where did those looms go? - any for sale? :p
K74464 sir, Loom shop making green bed spreads, then I got kitchen cos I was an apprentice butcher .
@@thpxs0554 do you remember 'the sweats' on A dorm? ...with Freddie Mercury and Sasquatch? ...known as the 'A Team' ....getting to C dorm was a buzz......
@@ANTHONYBOOTH
I don’t remember those 2 but we did get full Saturday kits to do over and over from 9pm cos when the screw said no talking some twat said “ goodnight sir” and he had us all up for 2 hours. Once I got from loom shop to kitchens I was set, cos we got up earlier to make breakfast and did less PE and on daily inspections we weren’t there. So the PO or governor, who ever did it usually walked past. But I got a fine for dust on the bed frame.
I thought the dorms were named after famous naval men, rather than ABC, but I went to Portland borstal after and the houses were definitely name that way. Drake ,Hardy, Rodney, Nelson, etc. My mate got caught shaving without the blade fitted coz he didn’t need to shave and kept cutting his spots, the screw caught him and made him shave by numbers over and over, his face was red raw and blood dripping. He also had a bad gut and he’d been going to the night toilet but after 3 visits he got caught short and shit the bed. He tried to hide the sheet under the bed but it was obvious it was missing from his bed-box, when he had to tell the screw he’d shit the bed and hidden the sheet you could hear a pin drop, it was dead silent in the dorm. The screw threw a fit like a maniac,
There was a Coldstream Guardsman in there doing 3 months, Willis his name was. He was 21 I think, shouldn’t have been there . I think he’d been in Colchester military prison then discharged , and sentenced by magistrates to 3 months. The short sharp shock was literally nothing to him, he’d had a meeting with the governor and said the governor thought he shouldn’t be there. He suddenly disappeared after 2 weeks. I suspect the governor spoke to the home office and he got moved to adult jail. He was about 6 feet 3 about 16 stone and the screws treated him differently. Nice bloke though,
@@thpxs0554 SATURDAY KITS? ....proper stitch up ....did you have Sunday kits as well?
...and yeah, I remember 'next bar steward to tork gits andred pressapps!'
I spent the max time allowed 6 months in here back in 1986 I was 15
So you were a lifer...
Me self and 2 mates got sent to this place for six weeks back in sept 87 we all came out of ther as fit as fuk i remember the gym teacher mister scully W 84256 bracken ....SIR
Spent a month here in Feb 1987 kids throwing Mars bars over fence when we were outside digging trenches
Eastwood park detention centre.1979.brutal.beatings everyday.Pearson,n and devaney
Did a month here feb 1987 oh how I loved scrubbing them dorm floors 123 and on on
Same here mate !!
@@gregspencer5677 what the same time ?
Any body remember me not sure of the year the name is Raggy Lobb
Got me fit 6 months latchmere house detention center. Got out the old bill couldn't catch me well not for a year then portland borstal
Foston hall Derbyshire winter 1968/1969 I was 15
I was in medomsley detention centre co Durham what evil place
Same here mate , i done 14 days in solitary for 2 failed escapes 😅 I laugh now but it wasn’t funny then. I don’t know if I was totally blind to it but I never heard of any sexual abuse going on with the screws or brutality . I know people got punched and stuff myself included.
I was also in medomsley as a young lad, I never seen any sexual abuse either
They should bring this back to the modern-era.
It doesn’t work. Nearly all of us were in trouble again.
kirk levington 1986 for me, what a fuckin hell hole
lol dorm cleaning, on ya knees in rows
polishing the floor 10 to the left, 10 to the right, 10 to the centre, move back
wages was about 33p a week, if I remember
that was June 81
not long now 50 days and a brek lol,
Sounds like north house feltham as I did the same floor with the sounds of it back then in 76 , 6 weeks then you got allocated a proper job if you could call it that
😂😂😂 I could have written that myself. Dec 81 to feb 82. While they filmed this. Yep push the beds back, 5 across on the knees 10x10x10 then move back till 5 more could get in , right down the dorm. Washing and shaving with doors opened and the gates closed and the wind whistling through, shirts off, it was brutally cold that winter. My mate was shovelling ice off the parade ground, I was warm in the kitchen.
@@thpxs0554 when you got sentenced dec81, i was already doing 1st month into my borstal at portland lol, take care m8
@@mrmyford portland ? I was there 83-84 . I was Rodney house orderly.
@@thpxs0554 done 81,82,83 in Portland borstal, 3 stints, 1st was 6months-2yrs, nov 81 -july 82 , then 4 month recall nov- feb 83, both grenville house, then came back 3rd time, just when they changed it over to yc, for a 9 month, in drake house may 83- oct 83, i was the education orderly, was well chuffed until a screw said i only got the job, because i know my way around lol,
also the original photo they took when you first went in, ive still got that today i smuggled it out in the speaker of a small radio, after i told them i lost the original pass, and got a duplicate lol, happy new year 2023 m8
Stomach in shoulders back chest out! reminds me of Foston hall in 1976
I was in Polmont borstal 78 got out went down to London nicked a car went to inner London crown court sent to huntercombe borstal, 1980 got out got into a finght in new castle believe or not sent to Durham nick back to court sent to deerbolt borstal 1982, so I done three borstals I seriously could write a best selling book with the stories I’ve got from my time in each anyone that had done a borstal training will tell you there was always something happening, it’s part of my life I wouldn’t change sounds daft but true, here’s the daft bit I wanted to join the army but for a dickhead cop I’d have got in but I ended up in trouble, to me it was just like the army 😊 ps your only meant to do one stunt in borstal well that was Scotland, bring it back and let it be the same way, honestly the little gob shites will be crying for there mums,
Werrington House 1985 for 3 months, met some great guys and also not so great guys. What sticks in my mind about my time there, skid marks, PE and cigarettes made from government issued toilet paper!
Remember it well 89/90/91
North Sea camp 73, Feb and March, anybody?
Was there in 1976 bunny hop ha ha remember a screw called Benny hill that was him in reception
your screw sounds like 'head on legs' he used to touch up the kids on night shift
Aldington 1980. I had a great time there. Made a man of me. Never offended again.
Then it had the desired effect Dean... Prison or a good woman...I had the latter ... Stay lucky
I was there also 18980. Got an extra 3 days for fighting in the workshop. You remember cleaning out the screws bar in the mornings. Bags of fag ends and slips of beer. Classy
chain link fencing when I was in there,you had to do so many feet per day
@@philwise872 I was on looms making green blankets in '82.
Jan 78 I was in Aldington some screws were ok most were ex military who wouldn’t think twice about a punch in the gut when checking fingernails before lights out. I once saw “lofty”, if it’s the same one in other threads, huge screw ex military used to wear his medal ribbons on his uniform completely knockout a young black fella for trying to incite a riot in the canteen with a single punch….. certainly quietened down after that. My first offence certainly worked for me never re-offended.
3months in aldington 1971 square bashing, kit displays, working in the kitchen,circuit training,getting slapped by miserable screws.But duff pudding was fucking marvellous.
I was incarcerated in Rochester borstal Back then I was given a sentence of "borstal training "with no date of release, it was 6months to 2years depending on your behaviour, I done 16 months and lesson learnt. DC was the soft option
Don't complain about Rochester I did 3 fresh wacks here, worked on the farm .. piece of cake ..... 🥱👋
K75014, Tennant’s red hand gang, bunny hops at stupid o’clock, Sexton, Benny Hill, Samways, Berry, ten burpees GO! Omfg, first ciggy on the out made my head spin 😆
K74464 sir. Yep Samways with his slaps, Berry, I think he was a PTI ? Benny Hill, the kitchen screw was Sam, he went to Reading prison later . Chalky white, he had a freak out cos my mate kept turning the wrong way in marching. He was raging like a lunatic, went to the loom shop and came back with chalk and put L and R on Steve’s boots, but he was so nervous he looked down turned correctly then spun back round. Chalky white tried to strangle the bloke next to me in the second rank cos he couldn’t stop smiling at stupid Steve. Who was the garden screw used to ride around on an old post office cycle painted black. Pritchard I think.
I remember Sexton, he was a big bastard and his little Geordie mate, Sirstiff or similar, both a pair of cunts...
I did 3months back in 68 Christmas say no more
Blimey I went to Aldington DC in Kent in the eary 70's its a housing estate now.
Goudhurst made me worse. I went in for TDA, by the time i came out i had learn't a lot more about crime. Also the screws made it impossible to keep up, abide by the rules and do it all to a high standard. Of course they made sure you failed. And if you didn't fail, they would put you on goveners report, i stood there dumbfounded, i hadn't done anything wrong i says to the screw, he said you have a button missing from your jacket. I looked down, no buttons missing, screw whips out the scissors and cuts one off, and says you nicked.
Can't beat the system, so i cheated and made life a bit easier for myself.
when i did get out i thought if thats the hardest time they can give me, i might as well go on the thieve, as going to be easier next time.
Who remembers sandwiches in the evening? A teaspoon of marmalade mixed with a kilo of marg🤢
1983 k74321
Some of these establishments were hell holes some were holiday camps like North sea camp Lincolnshire
4737 carling Sir !
I was in aldrinton in 85ish for six months didn’t mind it to be honest came out as fit as fuck and learnt a lesson ( don’t get caught again) I didn’t 😂
They should bring it back for some of the kids today
That was my job laundry orderly. You could get buts from the officers ashtrays and use izal toilet paper for skins and get a light from the boiler.
You could also steal big blocks of cheese and biscuits from the main stores and stash them in the laundry. Perks give good kit for canteen.
That's Benny hill at 2.40
Scrubbing floors in a line 10 to the left 10 to the right 10 centre move back.
Bunny hops down the corridors and a whack if you went above the line on the wall.
Mile before breakfast then circuits.
Digging trenches and taking the soil 100 yards away running then filling the hole back in. Circuit. Every time must be quicker or you get days added.
Mars bar treats for canteen.
The governor's missus who was in the laundry used to love coming into the showers.
The doctor was a nonce.
I was born and bred in Gosport.
Wow gives me flashbacks to 1986 when i got 9 months, did 6 months in whatton dc, regularly got slaps punched etc, i remember learning to march and the sweat courses. The pt instructor was a vile old fucking chain smoking narcissist who would throw the medicine ball into your back or crack you on the elbows with a spanner if you didnt run fast enough. My job was gym orderly and i used to nick matches out of his drawer and swap one match for a mars bar! Lol sad violent days i wish i could forget,
I remember him, yellow hair and "paki Sus" Pakistani screw on Nightshift. 1984
K74990 Brutal regime , sadistic prison officers , my crime , passenger in a stolen car ...
Was there in February March 1978 met some Good lads there and some dickheads.remember a Welsh lad ....stentiford surname
m79622
Was at Usk and here .They must have gone soft by the time this video was done as they used to shave your head on arrival. Stupid places and make little to no difference to anybody
Geordie bedblock anyone remember him
Kung foo
Yeah, Glenochill 1978
Mair ...Murphy...geordie bedblock...Kung fu
81
1983 L93298.
Sir
That’s a Reading prison number. Were you remanded. I had L53439. May to oct 83 then portland
Never graced the gates of Hasler i did my 4 mths at Send detention center in Woking luckily i was already in an approved school so when i got sent there at 14yrs old it was no difference tbh, gym every day MBBs + Field run twice a week if you took longer than 15mins everyone had to do another lap pmsl....Still remember my number D97421
Yeah I remember send the screws were child abusers,
I was there jan-Feb 81 was also at a approved skool too Finnart hse Weybridge,
Unfortunately those places were ex army so those in charge were violent narcissistic Controller violent abusers, in send they a super screw and a Pt with a birth mark called seeking im guessing you was there summer 81
did a stint in an assessment center then 15 months in giesland approved school then saugten prison then the glenocil 8wiiks and your breakfast then borstal 10 months polment all done in 2 years and 4 months all done between 14 and 17 found borstal and glemocil easy after gielsland school
Aldington 1976 3 months or 2 months 2 weeks 5 days and a brek as we used to say, it was hard there back then as hard as Send according to lads who had done time in both, ive seen so called hard lads crying for there mums, one lad after doing 3 months got gate arrest went to court and was back by tea time doing another 3 months he tried to top himself, anyone remember the PE screw bastard he kidney punched me for not swinging my arms high enough whilst on parade, i went down like a sack of shit and couldn't get up without help, ex special forces apparently
I was in there for 3 months in 1966, hard place. I was threatened with gate arrest if i didn't own up to other crimes but I kept my mouth shut and it didn't happen, but I was shitting myself over it. Not sure if it was the same PE screw, small stocky bloke and we were told he was ex mercenary. So glad to get out of the place and I never went back into an institution so I guess it worked.
@@paulthepill I was there in 1982. 2 screws in the workshops called Fuck-up and Lofty who loved to bully young kids.
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Jesus...lofty must of been ancient in 82, it's was called weavers 1 then, he had a boat moored in Folkestone harbour and I remember a new kid coming into workshop and lofty asked him where he was from, the kid said Folkestone, lofty said, I thought I recognized you, you used to throw pebbles at me from the harbour arm, the kid turned white, he got some shit from lofty. By all accounts it was one of the better centres, there was a lot of sexual abuse in the other ones, but I did see some bad beatings from the screws in Aldington
@@paulcaney6284 I got shipped down from Holandsy Bay for doing a runner. I arrived around midday and the reception screw put me straight into the population without the usual reception beasting because he knew I was local. A genuinely decent bloke! I didn't understand why I was dressed head to toe in red though and then someone explained I was in runners gear! After a few weeks they took me out of it and I was ok apart from the episode in the 'treatment room' when Fuck-Up and Lofty were screaming at me and a young traveller kid to hit them. They knew we wouldn't obviously. I remember them coming and being all matey just before discharge. I guess they didn't want kids looking for revenge.
@@Retrobeemer
Three if us arrived late in the evening at reception, another bloke arrived at the same time do we were all dealt with at the same time, the bloke was inducted first and when he gave his d.o.b everything stopped, he'd turned 20 a couple of days before his case came up and the courts didn't pick up on this so he should have been sent to prison as he was now too old for DC...he looked at the screws and the police who'd bought him down there and said, you've fucked up, so you better let me out now as I can't be tried again, I burst out laughing and received a massive slap to the back of my head...it was worth it though
l did it hard place when your 17 och
+roger lentell Me too, i was 19, Remember that screw called Benny hill? well, it did the job for me :-)
+Ricky Spanish yea mate and his mate
+roger lentell you can rent the full film for £1 if you're interested guys - vimeo.com/ondemand/shortsharpshock
You can watch it as many times as you like within the 48 hours of purchasing it
Yeah Benny hill and Hitler never forget the slaps at shave time ,god the things that went on there
oh yes the cunts
Not to forget the Irish screw Mair..
Glenochil DC 1981
D1 ways 88
Evil places borstal
*name and number * that's all you are 4 digits.🗣
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1978 age 14, recycled cassetted tapes all day in the work shop. I remember the smelly cheese roll in the eve, the brick and the green ghost, ( when you had toothpaste power over you in the Dom's. They called the long corridor the M1, I had to scrub in with a toothbrush as some shit nicked my boot laces on gov inspection. Brown ties were screw arse lickers. Went to Hunterdon Bostal after.
Bunny hops down the M1.
Hollysea bay 3 months then following year 6 months I was black Scouse proud 😂, it wasn't that bad , lived the circuits 😜
I was there 84/85 in cosford unit,got my city and guilds bricklaying,Ken Harvey was the Instructor,great bloke.
I did a runner and got shipped out to Aldington instead.
I was there 78- 79, 6 months, Bosmere & Hartsmere House, the gym teacher Mr Murgatroid was a c**t !
Done 2 'DCs fucking run here ' run there ' scrubb this scrubb that ' EASY STIR no they were quite hard ' the pysical ed was the hardest ' anyone that claim they wernt are liars ' they were hard in one way shape or form ' ford capri ' ford cortina mk 4' one of the reasons i was in haslar ' blantre hse 2 years before ' in posh kent 🤣
3 months ??..i done every single day of a 6 month stretch back in 74..screws hated me cos i wouldn't conform..spent most of my time in the 'block' where i was made to scrub the black and white tiled floor in the squat position,black ones first then the white ones 100 times each and had to shout the count,when i got to the end i was told to start again so i stood up with bucket in hand and soaked the screw !! 5 screws descended on me dragged me to the cell kicking and punching me,fuckers couldn't break me though.there were other times when i punched a couple of them..S.O. Pierce was one,Chalky White was another..PT Instructor was Victor Brooks ex Para and Henry Cooper's sparring partner he was the only screw who left me alone..Hadley was the worse he was a mother fucker !!!..i held the fastest times for the mile and circuit training during my 'stay'..day i was released a screw called Crocker escorted me to the bus stop and said "boy you tried to beat the system and i can honestly say you came very,very close !.
Rambo, is that you???? Nah, more like Walter Mitty
I spent my whole youth from kids homes at 11 to these shit wholes 3 times .What brain box though a short sharp shock would make any difference to a condition lad of years of it I don't know.Most of the Lads you came across in these places were good lads that had no decent guidance and role models .A good dad to show them the way .They always won in the end if you kicked off .Because the places were full of sickos who love punishment handing out .Just gave them what they wanted .Hazlar was easy time compared to Usk .Usk in Wales was different. All Wesh from the inmates to the screws and they hated the English .They had a great punishment. Two 50 ton piles of concrete 1/4 a mile apart and a wheel barrow. All weather's and all day till sundown and sun up .Nobody's beating that .Refuse and slap slap and stay there .
Did Werrington House, stoke on trent, came out Fit as fuck. I got absolutely smashed on beer and drugs the night and day before. When i woke up in the cubicle i didnt know where the fuck i was. That was the shock lol
A13317 Sir, you never forget your number
E98028 Sir, 39 years ago.....yr not wrong!
@@Phil-tb2yz 43 yrs ago, 9 months @ Aldington DC, done 27 weeks..fittest I've ever been..lol