@@theautorefinery yes i do. Had it since 1993. Has a built 1971 olds 350 with #4 heads with big valves 2.07 and 1.625 . This winter im adding a Torqstorm supercharger.
Yeah they pull pretty hard for a small block. Definitely fun to rev through the gears. Thanks for watching - please check out some of our other videos if you haven't yet. -steve
@@theautorefinery I was 18 and bought a brand new 70 W31. Man they were fast. I once raced a440 A12 mopar for $1000 and beat him he didnt beleive it was a 350 ci. .
I appreciate the VERY informative piece by piece tear down. I have a 1968 W-30 and this is helping me as to what to look for as I tear into mine ! The date codes and number breakdowns are very helpful . Again...THANK YOU.
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That chain was way sloppier then my 71 Cutlass Supreme setup with 134000 miles on it. The original nylon top gear was in remarkable shape with no pieces out of it. Someone didn't abuse my car thankfully, but it still needed to be replaced. Nice informative video on a rare car. Good stuff! Safe travels my friend!
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Hey there! Smokin' up H60's very cool stuff. Thats a great car for a 17 year old. Would love to hear more about that car and your stories. Feel free to email us with more. We really appreciate you taking the time to watch and play along. Stay tuned, -steve
New sub , thank you ! I was a boy of 8 years old , my dad had a friend that had just bought a new 68 442 ! Lord did I love a smoky burnout ,so yeah I’m subbed up and ready to watch .
If you look at the cylinder heads if you look at the number one intake or right there by the intake manifold. See the little drill that's shows the assembly line worker that it's a big valves. Same thing you'll find on Big blocks.
You would not happen to have a 55 carb for a 1970 do you? I know someone that has 269 55 and they're looking for a 70 7040255 I'm sure they would trade you
Well lucky you have the balance there cuz good luck finding one of those. Dick Miller did make a run of them but they're all sold out and he's not going to make any more. The 55 carbs are super hard to find. They're harder than finding the w30 carburetors
fun video I had a 68,69,70,71 and 72 cutlass the 1971 was a factory 350 4 speed in dash tach ran really strong buddy of mine had several w30 442 and the 71 stayed right with every one of them The only thing that spanked that car was a 69 nova that had a small block chevy that redlined at 7000rpm .This was in the early 80's I new nothing about the existence of w31 and years later wondered if it was indeed a w31. It was the most reliable muscle car i ever had.Never ran hot and only needed a clutch in the two years i had it
wow I love hearing about street racing stories with these cars. however if your car was a '71 sadly it was not a W-31. This option was only available 68-70. No matter, I know what you had a runner anyway. I had a 72 Cutlass 350 2bbl as a daily driver tire frier. Fun times!
While many Olds cams can be identified by the unique shapes of the scallops on the gear side . To the best of my knowledge. The only sure way to identify a w31, 68 H/O or even a w30 stick shift cam in by the numbers on the back and not by the scallops . Thank you for watching and commenting
Yeah huh?? What do you think? I need to follow your lead and do the same thing. Sometimes I forget what we actually started with. Yikes. What were we thinking??? We really appreciate your support. Seriously, tell us what you think now after watching some of the old stuff. -steve
@@theautorefinery I have sent so many friends to your site. I like the fact you show how to for the everyday guy/Gal the two cowl fan options who knew that ? good work cant wait to see Jones get his motor.
Those are L2320 forged pistons. I'm not sure if the factory ones were cast or forged. I built an engine with those pistons for My '68 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme Holiday Coupe. I also installed 2.00" Intake valves and 1.625" Exhaust valves in the cylinder head. I converted it to a roller cam and rockers. I have never seen a steel vacuum canister on any Oldsmobile. It might be aftermarket. The date on the timing gear is the date it was manufactured, not necessarily when it was installed. Very cool car though. I wish i lived near you so I could help you work on it. Good luck and take care.
Hello and thanks so much for watching. Yes these are aftermarket .030 pistons. The timing chain and gear production dates coincide with the time that the original owner had the engine rebuilt. That vacuum canister is original and used for the vacuum trunk release . They are also used on cars with air conditioning. I really appreciate you taking the time to comment. Stay Tuned...
@@theautorefinery I have a 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme with Air Conditioning and my vacuum canister is plastic. All the other ones I've seen were plastic, whether on a car in the junk yard or one at a car show, I have never seen a steel one. I know those are aftermarket pistons because I rebuilt another engine for my car and those are the forged pistons I chose to install. I was implying that even a W-31 car most likely had cast pistons. Good luck with your build and I look forward to seeing your progress. Take care.
Hi and Thank You for watching ! Interesting to hear that your '68 has a plastic vacuum canister. 2 of the 3 69's that we have here have the metal canisters. (my F-85 W-31 has no need for one). The Cutlass convertible for the A/C system and the Cutlass W-31 for the trunk release. Both have evidence of having never been removed. Yes the pistons in the W-31 are aftermarket and marked .030 The engine had been bored at the time it was rebuilt. Thanks again and please stay tuned!!
Never had W31 but in the early 80s I had a 69 442 and a 69 H/O if I knew what they would be worth today I never would have sold them hind site is always 20/20. LOL
Great cars. I know exactly what you mean. Ive had several other cars over the years that I wish I kept (very proud to still have my first one ) Thanks for watching
That's an OE link-belt timing chain NOT a roller or even a double roller. Cool video though. Reminds me of the Olds Diesels I worked on and my 307 in my '86 Pontiac wagon. One of the big problems with those 'Olds' designed engines was the oil drain back in the heads. They had really small returns and if they got plugged it would leak and use oil. Otherwise a pretty good engine.
Yes sir, I have had too unblock many oil return holes on olds V8s. They were also bad to blow the intake manifold gasket right in the front. Anyway, the olds V8s were a tough and good running engine.
Back in the late 70's I had back to back two 68 cutlass s cars with the w31 engines, but they were for the wife who was good at wrecking cars... she wrecked them both. I was driving a 67 rs/as camaro.
I wish there was a way to clone old and rare engines with new parts, just for historical value or so they aren't lost to time at least. That's just the computer in me ig
Marcus- The W-31 engine is a specially prepared 350 built only in lansing Michigan to be used exclusively in 1968 Ram Rod 350’s and 1969-70 W-31 optioned A body’s
Hi there . We Thank You for taking the time to watch some of our channel and get a look at what we started with. Due to age and health issues, the original owner just was not able to keep up on this car. After that tree limb fell on it...well that was the end for him. Please go ahead and watch some of the rebuild process videos that we've posted. Still a very long way to go, but after almost 800 hours we are starting to get somewhere. Until next time.... -steve
If you need to mark from wich cylinder a broken part came from to be able to pinpoint the problem that you are not a professionnal mecanic . You are what we call in the industry a ' backyard mecanic '
One of the more sought after small blocks of the era…. Pretty good find even with the revelation of prior damage and rebuild. But I suppose you’ll claim to be in a position where you’ll touch but some high end, ultra rare big blocks…that you don't really work on and really couldn't tell a big black from a small block by looking and never built either and just enjoy dumping on whatever someone else is doing just because you're doing absolutely nothing. …or you're just a toolbag.
Love seeing Olds content . More and more trickling in. Theres a special feel in an Oldsmobile......
Thanks for your interest. Do you have an '84 H/O? I had one with T-Tops
@@theautorefinery yes i do. Had it since 1993. Has a built 1971 olds 350 with #4 heads with big valves 2.07 and 1.625 . This winter im adding a Torqstorm supercharger.
W-31 motor is something serious,straight 💪.
Yeah they pull pretty hard for a small block. Definitely fun to rev through the gears.
Thanks for watching - please check out some of our other videos if you haven't yet.
-steve
Very informative info as I too am a Olds enthusiast. Had a couple of ‘70 w-31’s but never a ‘69. Keep up the great work!!!
Hey that’s very cool!
What made you buy more than one w31
What was your favorite thing about them ?
@@theautorefinery I was 18 and bought a brand new 70 W31. Man they were fast. I once raced a440 A12 mopar for $1000 and beat him he didnt beleive it was a 350 ci.
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Now thats a great story !!! What are some of the details of your car?
What ended up happening to it?
These have been the most coolest videos iv see in a while that was so cool how you pulled the heads and cam for the first time with us
Good morning Not entirely sure how we missed this. I'm glad you enjoyed it!! Keep watching
I appreciate the VERY informative piece by piece tear down. I have a 1968 W-30 and this is helping me as to what to look for as I tear into mine ! The date codes and number breakdowns are very helpful . Again...THANK YOU.
We appreciate you watching and following along! We are happy to help others during the thorough process and explaining as much as we can while also learning along the way. Stay tuned!
That chain was way sloppier then my 71 Cutlass Supreme setup with 134000 miles on it. The original nylon top gear was in remarkable shape with no pieces out of it. Someone didn't abuse my car thankfully, but it still needed to be replaced. Nice informative video on a rare car. Good stuff! Safe travels my friend!
Darrl J
Yeah. That was a loose chain ! My apologies for referring to it as a double roller. Not sure what happened there. No excuses
🎶 I was down at the New Amsterdam
Staring at this yellow-haired girl
Mr Jones strikes up a conversation
With a black-haired flamenco dancer
You know, she dances while his father plays guitar
She's suddenly beautiful
We all want something beautiful
Man, I wish I was beautiful 🎶
YES!! The theme song.......
Had a '67 442 in '71. Had h60 tires on the rear, and that thing would smoke those tires horribly. I was 17 and an idiot. That car was a beast.
Hey there! Smokin' up H60's very cool stuff. Thats a great car for a 17 year old. Would love to hear more about that car and your stories. Feel free to email us with more. We really appreciate you taking the time to watch and play along.
Stay tuned,
-steve
New sub , thank you !
I was a boy of 8 years old , my dad had a friend that had just bought a new 68 442 !
Lord did I love a smoky burnout ,so yeah I’m subbed up and ready to watch .
It’s more important now than ever for folks to recount memories of the lost brand Oldsmobile .
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If you look at the cylinder heads if you look at the number one intake or right there by the intake manifold. See the little drill that's shows the assembly line worker that it's a big valves. Same thing you'll find on Big blocks.
You would not happen to have a 55 carb for a 1970 do you? I know someone that has 269 55 and they're looking for a 70 7040255 I'm sure they would trade you
Well lucky you have the balance there cuz good luck finding one of those. Dick Miller did make a run of them but they're all sold out and he's not going to make any more. The 55 carbs are super hard to find. They're harder than finding the w30 carburetors
Thank You for watching. This is new information to me .
the heat cross over in the middle of the heads should be feed buy one valve pocket in w31 heads in the regular production heads used two valve pockets
Excellent job great video 👍 your attention to detail is very entertaining
We appreciate you watching. My brother is quite an encyclopedia!
fun video I had a 68,69,70,71 and 72 cutlass the 1971 was a factory 350 4 speed in dash tach ran really strong buddy of mine had several w30 442 and the 71 stayed right with every one of them The only thing that spanked that car was a 69 nova that had a small block chevy that redlined at 7000rpm .This was in the early 80's I new nothing about the existence of w31 and years later wondered if it was indeed a w31. It was the most reliable muscle car i ever had.Never ran hot and only needed a clutch in the two years i had it
wow I love hearing about street racing stories with these cars.
however if your car was a '71 sadly it was not a W-31.
This option was only available 68-70.
No matter, I know what you had a runner anyway. I had a 72 Cutlass 350 2bbl as a daily driver tire frier. Fun times!
Don’t the scallops on the front of the cam where the time chain gear mounts also indicate the type it is?
While many Olds cams can be identified by the unique shapes of the scallops on the gear side .
To the best of my knowledge. The only sure way to identify a w31, 68 H/O or even a w30 stick shift cam in by the numbers on the back and not by the scallops .
Thank you for watching and commenting
Had to go back and watch the start again
Yeah huh?? What do you think? I need to follow your lead and do the same thing. Sometimes I forget what we actually started with. Yikes. What were we thinking???
We really appreciate your support.
Seriously, tell us what you think now after watching some of the old stuff.
-steve
@@theautorefinery I have sent so many friends to your site. I like the fact you show how to for the everyday guy/Gal the two cowl fan options who knew that ? good work cant wait to see Jones get his motor.
Does the w31 engine have a steel crank ?
W31 uses same cast crank as other 350s
Those are L2320 forged pistons. I'm not sure if the factory ones were cast or forged. I built an engine with those pistons for My '68 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme Holiday Coupe. I also installed 2.00" Intake valves and 1.625" Exhaust valves in the cylinder head. I converted it to a roller cam and rockers. I have never seen a steel vacuum canister on any Oldsmobile. It might be aftermarket. The date on the timing gear is the date it was manufactured, not necessarily when it was installed. Very cool car though. I wish i lived near you so I could help you work on it. Good luck and take care.
Hello and thanks so much for watching. Yes these are aftermarket .030 pistons. The timing chain and gear production dates coincide with the time that the original owner had the engine rebuilt. That vacuum canister is original and used for the vacuum trunk release . They are also used on cars with air conditioning.
I really appreciate you taking the time to comment.
Stay Tuned...
@@theautorefinery I have a 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme with Air Conditioning and my vacuum canister is plastic. All the other ones I've seen were plastic, whether on a car in the junk yard or one at a car show, I have never seen a steel one. I know those are aftermarket pistons because I rebuilt another engine for my car and those are the forged pistons I chose to install. I was implying that even a W-31 car most likely had cast pistons. Good luck with your build and I look forward to seeing your progress. Take care.
Hi and Thank You for watching ! Interesting to hear that your '68 has a plastic vacuum canister. 2 of the 3 69's that we have here have the metal canisters. (my F-85 W-31 has no need for one). The Cutlass convertible for the A/C system and the Cutlass W-31 for the trunk release. Both have evidence of having never been removed.
Yes the pistons in the W-31 are aftermarket and marked .030
The engine had been bored at the time it was rebuilt.
Thanks again and please stay tuned!!
Never had W31 but in the early 80s I had a 69 442 and a 69 H/O if I knew what they would be worth today I never would have sold them
hind site is always 20/20. LOL
Great cars. I know exactly what you mean. Ive had several other cars over the years that I wish I kept (very proud to still have my first one )
Thanks for watching
very nice
We appreciate the compliment
That's an OE link-belt timing chain NOT a roller or even a double roller. Cool video though. Reminds me of the Olds Diesels I worked on and my 307 in my '86 Pontiac wagon. One of the big problems with those 'Olds' designed engines was the oil drain back in the heads. They had really small returns and if they got plugged it would leak and use oil. Otherwise a pretty good engine.
Yes sir, I have had too unblock many oil return holes on olds V8s. They were also bad to blow the intake manifold gasket right in the front. Anyway, the olds V8s were a tough and good running engine.
Yes all that said, these Olds 350's can often take a fair amount of thrashing ( ask me how I know .....) Thanks for watching
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Back in the late 70's I had back to back two 68 cutlass s cars with the w31 engines, but they were for the wife who was good at wrecking cars... she wrecked them both. I was driving a 67 rs/as camaro.
wow thats some string of bad luck. Any pictures !!
Thanks for watching
I wish there was a way to clone old and rare engines with new parts, just for historical value or so they aren't lost to time at least. That's just the computer in me ig
Didn't the W31 get a aluminum intake?
Apologies for the late response!! The W-31 did get an aluminum intake in 1970 only. It read W-350 on the intake.
@@theautorefinery I see. Thanks
What kind of engine is that in the W-31?
W-31 is a Olds 350ci
W-30 is a ram air 400ci
Marcus-
The W-31 engine is a specially prepared 350 built only in lansing Michigan to be used exclusively in 1968 Ram Rod 350’s and 1969-70 W-31 optioned A body’s
@@theautorefinery Thanks. I thought that engine is the 350 Rocket. I'm glad that you answered my question.
yes
All the w motors we're hand built balanced and blue printed by Olds, if its the rods and all don't match they we're in it
Is it really that bid of a deal it's an Oldsmobile and 50 years old worth saving even if it needs sleeves .
At least those are forged pistons
Yeah we are hoping the cylinders and the existing .030 bore is enough and they can be re-used.
It's just wrong that someone could allow one of these cars to look like this. I think I just threw up a little in my mouth!
Hi there . We Thank You for taking the time to watch some of our channel and get a look at what we started with.
Due to age and health issues, the original owner just was not able to keep up on this car. After that tree limb fell on it...well that was the end for him. Please go ahead and watch some of the rebuild process videos that we've posted. Still a very long way to go, but after almost 800 hours we are starting to get somewhere.
Until next time....
-steve
If you need to mark from wich cylinder a broken part came from to be able to pinpoint the problem that you are not a professionnal mecanic . You are what we call in the industry a ' backyard mecanic '
What industry? He's doing fine. I appreciate him sharing this. Don't be so negative.
It DOES NOT HURT to "mark from which cylinder a broken part came from." It a GOOD practice for both professional _and_ "backyard mecanic."
RIB IT RIB IT
Then what does a professional mechanic do?
He's doing just fine, I'm sure he's ok that you have some sort of an opinion.
Small block pos
Why the hate? He's trying. It's not a POS at all. Dude is just sharing rebuilding an old car.
One of the more sought after small blocks of the era…. Pretty good find even with the revelation of prior damage and rebuild. But I suppose you’ll claim to be in a position where you’ll touch but some high end, ultra rare big blocks…that you don't really work on and really couldn't tell a big black from a small block by looking and never built either and just enjoy dumping on whatever someone else is doing just because you're doing absolutely nothing. …or you're just a toolbag.
Simple as that! Thank you for you positive outlook and for your participation.
Maybe Pat has overlooked that in competitive drag racing of the day, the W31 was quicker than the W30.
TRW flat tops. heavy piston.
that cam is a doorstop,much better cam profiles out there now.
i believe dick miller is still rebuilding w-31 balancers.
If it's not going to be a race car then the "heavy" TRW pistons are not an issue.