ALTA is for EVERYONE !! - poaching the ski only resort
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- Alta is for everyone! Their slogan says it's only for skiers, but if you're willing to hike, they can't stop snowboarders. Poaching the ski-only resort was one of the best pre-season days on snow I've had. Since this upload, I have gotten a splitboard! To see me splitboard Alta check out this video: • SPLITBOARDING!! The ga...
To see me splitboard the OTHER ski-only resort here in Utah, Deer Valley, watch this one: • Snowboarding (poaching...
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Alta bans snowboarders purely for revenue purposes. I see a lot of comments wondering why they hate snowboarders and truth is I don't think they really care all that much anymore. Its a financial decision. In Utah you have a very interesting segment of the population that views themselves as "elite". This same population tends to favor skiing quite heavily and is willing to pay a premium to enjoy their own resort void of "rowdy" snow boarders. Alta offers a ski only resort within 30 min of SLC at the top of the mountain with the best snow. It is a beautiful resort and they are able to charge a premium to the wealthy elite for access. A season pass was over $1500 per person this year. Far more expensive than anything else in the entire state. If the snowboard restriction was ever removed you would see Alta lose customers to Deer Valley and Park City. Alta would lose it elitist status and the customers that go with it.
Hit the nail on the head, my friend.
The other aspect of it is that there's so much overcrowding in the Cottonwoods already that resorts really don't have much incentive to entice a new group of patrons (x100 for Covid season). Solitude started charging for parking last year, Brighton has a weekend rule of 4+ HOV only in their main lot...none of the resorts are hurting for more customers.
Deer Valley is also ski only
Fucking Mormons lol
But thats the other thing, its not like how it used to be, even for Utah. I know alot of older dentist type and super rich people who got into snowboarding also because freeride snowboarding. The amount of people they lose, would be easily regained by the older wealthy snowboarders that want to purely freeride. The fact they don't have a park would easily bring those types of people. Alta is just afraid to try as its much like any boomer, afraid of the change. Same applies with deer valley. At this point with how snowboarding is going, they are almost hating on their own kind, the ski only gimmick only really worked up till the late 2000s. Now the ski hill industry is hurting as a whole because of this "rich kid" mentality and people think its all only for those rich elite, which they are not wrong. In 2030+, if the way things keep going, alta won't survive with skiers alone. Hell, even if they only allowed hard boot snowboarders, that be no different than letting the rich ski racing father with their GS skis, but never raced in his life. Lol ALSO, 1500$ is fairly normal price. Thats about the price of whistler and some other hills.
I'm a ski only guy, primarily because that's what I learned on, but I have nothing against snowboarders. They have as much fun as skiers do, and they're always following the same rules and guidelines we are. Plus, the mountains are for everyone, let's enjoy them together.
Amen brother!! 👏👏👏
i ski and snow board my guy and i’m not gonna lie when i’m skiing sometimes i wish i didn’t have to share with snowboards and vise versa but i see where ur coming from
@Aiden Pickett But some skiers are too! (I’m a skier btw) But what I find annoying is sharing a chairlift with a snowboarder.... they take all of the room for your skis because the can’t keep their board straight ahha
Brent I couldn’t agree with you more.
It’s important that snow sports stay alive
Snowboarders tend to sit down in the slopes more than skiers do, but as longs as they’re clearly visible to the sides, who cares? I’ll add that I primarily ski but I can snowboard too.
So here me out, we all just show up and hike Alta on boards like a hundred maybe
I’m down let’s do it
Someone make a forum and get as many people as possible together and plan it out. Let's get it!
How long did it take to hike it?
I'm down
@@airfried4908 gotta plan this on shreddit
This is great, and pretty much applies to all resorts on public land: they can only stop you from using their lifts (which is what resorts have a license to do). They cannot stop you from utilizing the land if you're willing to hike.
Exactly! 👍
I didn't know that. That's interesting.
@@jasonfrost5025 wendover productions has a great video on the economics of ski resorts, highly recommend
I can’t believe this is actually a thing....it’s crazy how many skiers still don’t like snowboarding. I’ve had skiers refuse to ride up on lifts with me. Skiers telling me all the rules I’m breaking when I’m just vibe’in down the hill. It’s weird. We’re all their for the same reason. Share the mountain!
Smh. Too much stigma from the 80s & 90s.
Don't worry that generation of bitter old men that never got over boarding being allowed on "their" mountains are all about 1 good fall away from retirement any way. I ride happily knowing that fact.
I started skiing in the early 80s and have no issues with what anyone wants to ride. The only thing that bothers me is when people are dicks and there dicks in both groups.
I’ve got no issues with boarders, in fact my moms one so we’re constantly riding together, however, it is a completely different experience riding on a resort with just skiers. Something I actually wish they had for boarders too! It’s not an “I hate boarders” issue as much as they can say they’re one of only a few resorts that still cater to that specific of an audience. Hopefully someday there will be a boarder only resort for you guys to check out!
I ski but I have a lot of friends who snowboard I don’t get why skiers don’t like snowboards
Coming from Europe I‘m like: "wtf? There are resorts banning snowboarding?“
And that’s how EVERYONE should react!
Its been banned since snowboarding became a thing, alta opened in 1938.
And ski patrols ^^
It’s now so much banning it but being a skier who went to Alta it and snowbird i personally don’t care abt snowboarders being there but they just don’t let them on lifts
Not so much *
I ski at alta it’s my home I wish they would let snowboards in so I can hit the slopes my my snow boarding friends
Right? It sucks to separate crews with skiers & boarders
@@BoredProgression Isn't it possible to use a splitboard in the lift, I would tey atleast and see what they say
Lol they’re still stuck in the 80’s
Atleast you got snowbird next door
@@jamescardwell4732 still love alta and understand their reasons but it would be nice
As a skier I love this and hate that Alta still has this policy.
Amen!! 👍
Isn't it the same in Deer Valley?
yep...makes no sense
Me too
My Nigga
Im a Skier, but I support snowboarders. They are not doing anything wrong.
Thank you dude. Some of my best friends are skiers! ⛷ just rode with 2 of them today. 👍🙌
I agree
They suck
Tbh, when I’m skiing, it’s other skiers getting in my way 90% of the time, at least most snow boarders have fallen/sat down enough they know how to stay out of the way.
Haha. True! I’ve been cut off by way more tunnel vision skiers than boarders. A seasoned boarder knows to check his 6 and blind spots before going crosscourt.
@@BoredProgression exactly! I also feel it’s easier to predict a snowboarders movement, when a skier is going forward they can go either direction, but I know snowboarders tend to favor their toe side and make their turns very obvious.
Ya honestly, most boarders go fast enough to the point where they don't slow me down...its always the herds of newer skiers
I just started skiing recently from snowboarding and this is SO true. Skiers are way more reckless and I've been buzzed and nearly torpedoed by tons of skiers. Snowboarders just pick a line and go down smoothly whereas skiers are like flopping all over the gd place, which is funny because you always hear skiers complain about how snowboarders are the ones 'taking up the whole mountain.' I wish everyone would just chill TF out though and have FUN. Literally what it's all about. Fun. Which both are--they're both different and offer different types of fun--I love them both now.
truer words have never been spoken. skiers are the worst at looking anywhere other than where they are going. at least YELL which side you are on as you zoom past on my backside...
I snowboard cause that’s what my dad taught me but when he was a kid he snowboarded when the first one came out and him and his friends who all skated would be chased off the mountain by ski patrol and would hike up the mountain every time
Old school skier watching snowboarding come into its own. Absolutely no different from skiing. Both go down snow either on skis or snowboard. When skiing started to decline, I saw snowboarding rejuvenating winter sports since good parents raising their kids allowed them to choose skis or boards. The rest is history. Sharing the mountains with each group's newbies equally dangerous until mastering the skills to become competent. With snowboarders, snow sports was injected with more money to support winter sports. For places like Alta and Deer Park, smacks of elitism, monied snobbery, I'm holier than thou attitude only monied businesses can support with a large following of effete snobs who forgot where they started from. I skied Alta before snowboards were invented and presumed they opened their arms for the increase in money (lift ticket sales) like every other well run mountain sports company seeing the growth potential of a new group of snow aficionados. I'm disappointed Alta bans boarding. Skied Deer Park too years ago. Monied mountain. My guess is they are doing well without snowboarders supporting them to continue keeping their noses up in the air. The really fine boarders carve so gracefully the same as surfing on water. Anyone not appreciating how some can carve on a snowboard like surfing on water are blind without imagination.
WOW! Could not have said it better myself. Thank you, my friend.
Yeah. I pretty much only ski snowbird or occasionally brighton but I used my free day at alta from my snowbird pass yesterday. I swear I was the youngest there by 40 years.
Oliver Volz 😂 I’m not surprised.
@@BoredProgression Good news for you boarders. It's appealing to a demographic that is quickly dying off. Maybe change will be sooner than expected.
:)
Hiking for turns is sooo humbling, and rewarding! Really makes you appreciate riders like Jeremy Jones, and Brian Iguchi... ❤ Great vid, and music!
Chris B 2 of my favorite riders! Love Jeremy’s trilogy of films on hiking! So true.
@@BoredProgression JJ is my absolute favorite! So inspirational! Are the on the Facebook group DMQ?
Chris B I’m not sure. Haven’t heard of that group. I’ll have to check it out!
@@BoredProgression its "Dig My Quiver" A bunch of great people,who jus love to snowboard, all over the world, you would fit in great! A ton of people from your area, too!
Chris B Sick! Sounds awesome. I’ll check it out.
Im a skier, but I imagine that a resort reserved only for Skiiers would bring out the worst Karen's.
100% There’s a few in the comments @Shelia Cole 👀
I just moved to Utah recently and was shocked at the niche snooty ski crowd here. There are lots of skiers that don't care, but there's definitely that "core" group of super snot-nosed wealthy skiers here like has been mentioned. It's insane to me that there are still 3 resorts that ban snowboarding in the US.
@@jasonfrost5025 It's insane to me that there's ONLY 3 that are for skiers only.
@@jasonfrost5025 Boo hoo. I weep for you. Those snotty, wealthy skiers at Alta don't want you around. Poor baby!
How cool would it be if snowbird made their resort snowboarding only 😂 skiers would be soo mad
They would!
@@BoredProgression They wouldn't nearly as much money$$$$$
that would suck imo. you dont fight prejudice and division w/ more of the same.
@@frotocsr true but I'd still support it for the lulz
It would affect a lot more people. Ratio of skiers vs snowboarders at snowbird is like 4 to 1 if I’m not mistaken
This is awesome! Having worked at Alta last year, you'd be surprised how many employees snowboard! Though I think a huge factor of not allowing boarding is the fact that the terrain really doesn't allow for it. Many of the better runs require allot of traversing to get to. Allot of us embraced skiing and learned how to make turns both ways which was super fun as well. I dont think alta needs to change, or will. But that doesn't mean boarders can't still shred! And plus, the bird is just a minute away. #AltaSnowboardTeam FTW!!!
Right on man. My thing is, if the terrain doesn’t allow for snowboarding, then let the terrain dictate that! Lol. No need to ban snowboarding if the snowboarders naturally can’t really utilize the terrain anyway.
Dude, my home mountain is Crested Butte, and we have way gnarlier terrain and snowboarders traverse to it all the time. Alta is skier only because of that high and mighty mentality that started when snowboarding did. There is absolutely no difference in the terrain that a snowboarder can do or the terrain that a skier can do, just different skill levels and levels of commitment of the two. Share the mountain.
Yeah I have seen all the best runs at alta and I can tell you traversing on these runs can absolutely be done by a any capable boarder. Boarders still traverse all over snowbird and I think snowbird is a bit steeper
I went to alta w my parents when i was like 12 years old. Im the only one who snowboards in my family.
My grandma was ski patrol there for over 30 years so i got a pass 😂
Pre season hike up to the top with snowboards. Hide the snowboards or maybe hang them on trees at the top of the mountain and geo tag. Ride up on skis. Snowboard boots in backpack.
Why haven’t I thought of this!??
Honestly can't be mad at anyone even snowboarders if they're willing to hike up the mountain.
This is awesome 👍
this was so sick, love the snowboard vlogs man keep em comin!!
Oliver V. Thanks dude. This was a fun one!
I have poached Alta, and the looks from the skiers made the hike 1000% worth it.
😂 🤣
Great video man, had a lot of fun watching it. SO stoked for the season!! You're bound to start getting a huge following with how awesome your production quality is!!
Zach Breider Thanks man. 🙏 This was one of my favs. Spread the word if you can!
Yewwww
ellstacker adventures 🤙
@@BoredProgression :)
Imagine banning a quarter of your customers 😂
At least. Probably a third.
More, when you include their skiing friends.
I'd argue at least 50% these days.
@@jasonfrost5025 the skiers wanting the premium of no boarders pay 3x more, thats why they’re banned
@@icushfu732 No, I meant it's probably more like banning 50% of their customers, not just 25%. Snowboarding is just as popular as skiing these days.
I ski because that’s what my parents did and taught me with and I don’t plan on changing that but honestly I don’t see why people dislike snowboarders. Like except for personal experience idk what would be the big difference
Right on! I respect that. Now imagine there was a resort that told you that you needed to learn to snowboard to get on the lifts and enjoy the mountains.
@@BoredProgression as a snowboarder that would suck. We would get a lot less old people, & they have always have the greatest insight lol
You hit the nail on the head... "personal experience."
my question is, would they let you on the lift if you were on a splitboard in split mode and just converted into snowboard in a place out of view of the lift and do the same at the bottom
Aidan H My question too!! Haha. I feel like it might depend on the lifty. But been wondering the same thing for a while.
Nope
I don't think the board ban is founded in any form of logic or reason. It's founded on irrational animosity and snobism by a group of bitter old geriatrics that never got over the emergence of boarders on "their" mountains.
@@funkfarmer7125 most likely they will be gone soon and all will be balanced
Wow, as somebody from Hawaii that only snowboarded once, I didn’t know the ski/snowboard battles I seen from Johnny tsunami were still going on today...damn lol
That movie was filmed here in Utah too.
@@BoredProgression wow it all makes sense now lol
Honestly, same. I've never been on a mountain but I'm moving to Colorado in March, so I look forward to snowboarding. I couldn't believe when I saw this was actually a thing
It’s like cats and dogs, hyenas vs Lions. I see it as a class issue, both are expensive 🤷♂️
This video was made a year ago but this guy is still responding to comments. Insane.
Is it? 😳 I try to reply to all my viewers comments on all my videos. 🤷♂️
@@BoredProgression yea idk it's just from a year ago
I see all comments come up in one place. Doesn’t matter when the upload was, so it’s pretty easy to reply.
He's an obsessed boarder who's not content to stick to there 99.9% of resorts that allow him, and thinks he's entitled to go wherever he wants.
I feel as if I should help clarify Alta is on national Forrest yes so you can snowboard there you just aren’t aloud to ride their lifts
I mention this in the video.
I feel like I should ask people to watch the video before they comment....
@@kingjoedirt1334 Welcome to 2021 where humans have been trained to have a 7 second attention span, read a headline, and formulate an entire theory on it.
Awesome Video! My heart got pumping watching this clip. Thanks for keeping up the fight. Snowboarding is not a crime! Share the mountain :)
🙌🙌🙌
I did this exact same thing with a group of friends this year, I loved it so far
I feel things when I watch your videos. Very few videos do that.
Thanks friend! Means a lot.
I am a life long skier who grew up on a ski only mountain and was there when it changed and they started to allow snowboarders and I can say the mountain is so much better with boarders. The mountain is a place for fun and not discrimination based on something as trivial as whether you ski or board
One thing people tend to overlook is that snowboarders and skiiers do affect the snow quality in different ways. Skiiers make more uniform and moguly terrain, while snowboarders make flatter and more variable terrain. However, while there is a difference, it isn't that big a deal. I think the whole feud is stupid. Lets agree that snowboarders and skiiers lower snow quality just as much as each other.
This is how I feel about skateparks not allowing BMX bikes and other sports. They're meant for everyone to have fun and get away from the struggles of life.
Love this video and was really surprised to see you only have 5k followers. This is some million follower content. Great stuff!
Thank you man! I’m a skateboarder and I totally understand. I’ve never had an issue with bmx. And while I can’t stand 🛴 scooter kids who have tunnel vision at skateparks I don’t think they should be banned. They just need to be taught proper park etiquette instead of having their clueless parents drop them off like it’s a playground. If Alta wanted to make an etiquette/safety course for snowboarders I’d be totally stoked on that! Some resorts make you take a short course to use their terrain parks and it makes them safer and more fun for those using them.
Editing for the ascent portion of this video is really exceptional. Made me feel like a kid in awe & wonder.
Thanks mate! Was exactly how it felt being there.
I’ve always thought it was interesting. I ski and snowboard and can see both perspectives. I can see the perspective of a snowboarder and letting everyone enjoy the snow. Everyone should enjoy snowsports. I also understand the draw as a skier going to a ski only resort where you don’t worry about people strapping in at the top of the lift or things like that. I can’t say I know where I sit on the issue. Great video!
Thanks a lot, man! I appreciate the honesty. Need more constructive comments like these!
Yo I came looking for a comment like this to discuss. I also have the dual perspective having started snowboarding young and switching to skiing as a teenager so I could keep up with my dad in the backcountry and so we had an easier time getting around together. I also live in Australia so the Southern Hemisphere is my bread and butter where our conditions and terrain are not always so bountiful - we literally don’t have enough room not to share, and we’re usually making the best of what we have snow-wise.
On top of that we have (especially in Australia) arguably a much lower average level of experience on and around snow, coupled with a high level of interest in trying snowboarding as opposed to skiing (we surf and skate a lot, so the logical conclusion of most when venturing into snowsports for the first time is snowboarding).
I have two points to contribute - personally I believe learner snowboarders are more dangerous than learner skiers, OP is right about lift exit issues etc.
My second point is that snowboards will always displace a higher amount of snow than skis, especially when piloted by learners who spend most of their descent with the board horizontal on their comfortable edge. In warm, slushy conditions, or when there’s not much snow to start with, in my experience over a day this increased displacement of snow by learner snowboarders can reduce a run to grass and dirt that might have gone the distance otherwise.
I’m all for sharing, have lots of mates who snowboard and we all ride together just fine, and I don’t get too worked up about the things I mentioned earlier, but since it’s a discussion I thought I’d share my honest perspective.
I also kinda find it strange that the whole poaching thing is so consistent and such a big deal. The USA has literally hundreds of inclusive resorts and hills. Why are you so worried about the 3 that don’t permit snowboarding? And if they’re all rich snobs and don’t want to cater to you then why are you interested in riding the hill? Can’t you just go somewhere else and have a better time? No disrespect meant at all, I can vibe with the civil disobedience thing and personally wouldn’t want to ski a segregated area either... but like... why?
Louis Diepold I appreciate your well thought out comments and opinions! Thank you for adding constructively to the conversation. My (and many other’s) complaint is that Alta operates on National Forest land. Public lands that anyone can walk on/hike etc., It’s also basically attached to Snowbird which does allow snowboarding. You can actually buy a Snowbird Alta pass (if you ski) and you can ski between the 2 resorts all day. I don’t care about the other 2 ski-only resorts which both operate on private property. Every time I’m at the edge of Snowbird I have to watch people go in and out of the Alta gate, yet I can’t because of the rotation of my stance. Legally I’m not trespassing if I enter Alta from Snowbird and ride down. But I cannot get on their chair lifts. Do you see how frustrating that is?
Bored Progression yeah okay I can see where you’re coming from now. I never knew Snowbird and Alta shared a pass, which changes my thinking. Seems a little contrived, like all of the angles Alta seem have presented over the years for their decision. Honestly it seems like an easier pill to swallow that the private resorts just say no because they can as opposed to Alta always having something different to say. Strange issue. Thanks for clarification and have a good season man!
Bored Progression I can agree with your points about Alta. I appreciate the facts you brought to the table about it! It truly changed my perspective. I can say with education on the issue I can make the educated decision to support what you’re pushing for.
I think what is an even bigger issue is above sharing with skiers or snowboarders is sharing with an inexperienced rider period. People love to say it’s one sport or the other but the huge issue is people who don’t pay attention and all hang out at the top of the lift(skiers and snowboarders) or in the middle of the run, who don’t look up the hill when they cut across, when they blast in front of people. That’s the problem that needs addressing. Not what you’re riding but how you’re riding down the hill is the big issue that needs correction and education.
Honestly if everyone paid attention and got out of the way when they want to sit down or pay attention when they maneuver down the hill no one would care what you’re riding I’d argue.
I’m a skier and always will be but I have lots of friends that snowboard! It’s really upsetting I can’t share these epic mountains with my friends.
I feel like part of the reason is that the mountain doesn’t work very well for snowboarding. A ton of the mountain is accessed by traversing which could cause traffic with snowboards and just generally be pretty annoying for the boarders. I definitely agree that the policy is weird though. Hopefully something changes in the future
I hear that argument a lot but Alta isn’t the only resort in America with traversing. It’s a lame excuse for a resort that allows monoskis.
That’s the stupidest excuse ever.
Another great vid. Big fan.
Thanks my friend! 🙌
Love the vid and glad you got to check out the terrain! I personally have absolutely zero issues with boarders, in fact my moms one and we’re constantly riding together at the bird, however, it is a completely different experience riding on a resort with just skiers. Something I actually wish they had for boarders too! These days I feel like It’s less of an “I hate boarders” issue as much as the resort now can “pride” themselves on being one of only a few resorts that still cater to that specific of an audience. I may get absolutely scrutinized for saying this but I hope someday there will be a boarder only resort for you guys to check out too! Not that I think separation is good, but the experience is definitely something worth noting.
Good input dude. I’d rather have skiers/boarders be able to access everything but it would be interesting to see an all snowboard mountain. To me that would go against what I personally believe in tho and might just further the rivalry instead of bringing us together.
@@BoredProgression definitely see that! I agree and would rather see everyone together than further separated. Definitely would be interesting to see!
I got cold watching y’all. No jacket? Sheesh
Hot on the way up, Jackets on the way down.
It’s crazy how this stigma is still a thing... I’ve been shoved a few times and it was pretty obvious that it was specifically because I was on a snowboard just because there are a few bad apples doesn’t mean cut down the whole tree. Almost like judging someone because they choose to jog and not walk. Anyways good video I like the editing style
Thank you dude! Well said! 👏👏👏
I'ma skier and this brought me joy lol
Do you mean you hate snowboarders or you like what this guy is doing?
I’m guessing it was a supportive comment
You should try loading the lift with a split board
It’s been tried. Not by me tho. It didn’t work. And that’s a significant gamble on a $130 lift ticket.
@@BoredProgression They seriously ban split boards? Lmfao, jfc. That's so extra.
So awesome to see Utah ski Vlogs you really on top of the game I liked watching your vid Man U chill.
Thank you bro! Subscribe, if you haven't, to see lots more!
This is literally a bad business decision for Alta anyway. Like, that's a lot of money they lose without snowboarders paying for passes.
They argue the exclusivity makes up for it. Pretty dumb to me though especially since snowboarding revived the ski industry.
hasn't hurt them all that much in nearly 3 decades, though.
It's elitist if you ask me, but it's their business, I guess.
@@sheliacole3301 it's true. Considering that the only explanation for banning snowboarding has been that their "terrain is not conducive to snowboarding" it is clear that they are capitalizing on percentage of the market of skiers who just prefer to not be around snowboarders. It's a private business, so that is their prerogative.I used to hate on them for it, but it's not worth the energy.
@@vasocreta Considering it's like literally next to Snowbird, that excuse makes zero sense. Not to mention, you can snowboard anything. Such a snooty group of owners.
@@jasonfrost5025 in total agreement
I love this 🎉🎉🎉❤😂
sucks that i’m just seeing this now. this is an amazing video, thank you for sharing. keep on riding brother 🏂
I’m stoked you’re seeing it now! 🤘 thanks man.
Me and the boys still love poking fun at our snowboarder friends, but at the end of the day we are all just enjoying the slope!
You should organize a snowboard only event there and invite a tom of snowboarders to all hike and ride together
Would be sick but I just wanna share the mountain 🏔! ✌️
@@BoredProgression Yea makes sense I would too
Do it. While you're hiking to the top, I'll get in 30 runs riding the lifts. Better yet, just go to Snowbird, where you're welcomed. Don't understand why snowboarders are whining and crying because Alta doesn't want them. Just go where you're welcomed, dude.
The resort doesn’t let them on lifts but is it public land so they’re allowed to hike it?
Correct. Before opening day and after their final day of the season. As long as uphill travel is permitted.
I think mountains should be for everyone, people saying they would ban skiers if they owned alta arent taking away the problem their just making a new one, everyone should ride mountains, i realised eventually snowboarders can actually make a ski day better because they can smooth out crud and make it more stable, mountains for everyone!!
Abraham Well said Abraham! I also would not support a snowboard-only mountain. That’s still prejudice. #freealta.
Bored Progression yessir, and to the people who talk about how snowboarders scrape, only beginner snowboarders scrape and beginner skiers scrape too!!!! What i think could really help the snow stay better is expert only mountains, like kicking horse, instead of banning snowboarders let skiers and snowboarders stay but just experts only!!
Bro this gave me the chills! So stoked for the season!!!!
Luis Villanueva haha! Me too man! This was a fun one to make!
love how you are still replying a year later
Of course! Love the interaction! 🙌
What a day! It crazy that our days there's still places forbidden to snowboards... So funny moment of lonelyness at the end! 😂
Skate Crisis Right?? It defies logic. Haha. Yeah left hanging🤛 too! 😦😂
Happy Thanksgiving guys! Hope you all are super blessed!
Old school here. Love my old 195s', but have no problems sharing the hill with boards. A lot of folk complain that boards push the snow down the hill and scrape it down to ice in spots, like say under a tasty cornice, and you find the first 100 feet of landing zone is scraped clean by boarders who are overly challenged by the pitch. Still, we're all out there to play and we should get along. I may even get a board myself, after riding my wheelman all summer, seems it would be fun.
Why is there no snowboard only resort!! Someones gonna make a killing w that eventually
It could be you! 😂
Im gonna see what I can do... atleast a few days per week at select resorts.. that would be the real EPIC PASS🤗🏂🔥
Andrew Cabebe 😂
Ya but most snowboarders are cool enough to not be selfish dicks. And would share and let everyone join however they want to. Just like we did with parks. Jumps, rails, half-pipes, and and all of the new Olympic sport's that came about because of snowboarding. Snowboarders didn't say; Only Snowboards In The Parks. Even though in the beginning it was very very rare that you would ever see a skier in the park. Most snowboarders are just not like some skiers who are stuck in a snobby old way. But not all skiers are the same. Just like not all snowboarders are the same.
I do both, even though I have not been skiing in years. (I just love snowboarding more.) In one way, I think it definitely sucks that snowboards can't use Alta's lifts. But in another, if it keeps a lot of the stuck up skiers in one secluded place, and off of, and out of the way at other resorts? Then that can be a good thing too, right? I try to find the positive and best in everything I can.
Ride On, Ride On.
Because we dont need more bad ideas
One step forward for our boarding brethren.
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This annoys me very much where I go to: The Summit at Snoqualmie is very snowboard friendly and when I fell down to pretty roughy really the only ones who came to check on me were the snowboarders
That’s what being on snow should be about. We’re all after the same thing. ☮️❤️❄️
It was 1979, I was a ski bum at Alta. I skied 6 days a week for the whole season. There were 6 of us that dropped acid every Wednesday and went up the mountain. Chain smoking joints we went from black diamond to black diamond. We would bomb into the upper chalet and take over a table. Drinking pitchers of beer and creating a cloud of marijuana smoke we entertained the family segment. I was an expert expert rated skier by the end. What a party. Elite you say. lol
Im not sure if you know this but the current year is actually 2023 not 1979
Yeah, these sour grapes snowboarders can't fathom that skiers just want some mountains to themselves.
@@EAOO And your point is? Oh, that's right. You don't have one. Go to Snowbird. Leave Alta to the skiers.
@@DogTrekker reading comprehension is hard isnt it
@@EAOO You say as you look into the mirror.
this is honestly a bummer. my home resort is northstar over in truckee but i learned to ski and snowboard. both are great sports. i love being able to see skiers and snowboarders on the mountain just trying to shred (and even the jerrys! we all start somewhere).
Destroyed all the slopes with your boards!
ahahah
😂😂😂 We’re the worst human beings!
I feel like it’s the older generation that has a problem with snowboarders. They were probably adults by the time snowboarding came around so they assume snowboarders are the “rebels”. All of the younger generation has probably grown up with snowboarding being a lot more common without major beef.
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Ready for a zombie apocalypse with those walls lmao 😅😂😂😂
Hahah. For real!
I ski and snowboard, at an intermediate level at best. I am constantly getting passed by both skiers and snowboarders, and have little issue with either one. As for the “rowdy” snowboarders, they tend to hang out at the terrain park or go off trail, both terrains that are typically further away from families and the average mountain visitor.
And Alta doesn’t even have a terrain park, so it’s not like it would attract that kind of crowd.
Absolutely love that the love reigns in the comment section. It goes to show that the entire community is FOR a shared mountain! Alta needs to stop the discrimination! What if weekends were ski only and weekdays allowed?
This! I’d be totally in support for ski only days. 💯
The other one is located in Vermont, it’s called “Mad River Glenn”
Yup. They ski Mad. We ride happy! 😆
Deer Valley in Utah too
Video quality and editing is amazing! 😍
Thanks bro! Check out my other vids.
This is awesome. I love that you did this
It’s become a pre-season tradition!!
A win for shredders everywhere
This is really a thing?! Wow. I almost want to quit skiing because of these guys. Instead, I'm going to continue to ski and show my support and rejoice in those who want to experience the mountains. No matter who, what, where, why or how! ⛷️🏂
Thanks bro!! 🤜🤛
No, your first instinct was correct. Quit skiing. Get a snowboard and stay away from Alta.
@@DogTrekker actually, my first instinct is to visit Utah, rent a snowboard, and hike up Alta just to snowboard down it out of spite. However, if most of the uptight skiers spend their time at Alta, i would likely avoid the resort, and ski somewhere a little more pleasant.
The way you speak of snowboarders, and my experience with them, you sound more like the description you have for them.
Let's not forget, the original extreme winter mountain enthusiasts were the Hot Dog skiers of the 70's. Did you have a problem with them, too?
I originally started out as a skier. I then switched to snowboarding for about a decade. I only recently switched back to skiing a couple years ago. In all the circles i found myself in, you are the one and only uptight bigot mountain goer i have met.
I can't help but think of this guy from years ago who wore a narrow mustache under his nose, when i think of you.
@@BigSpookyJeff You entitled snowboarders can ride at 99.9% of the resorts in the country, and you whine and cry about Alta being skiers only. Why not go to where you're welcomed? I would be perfectly fine if a mountain resort decided to go boarders only. I think some should. I certainly wouldn't want to go where I'm not wanted.
The crosstrek is a beauty.
Someone should make a ski resort right beside alta that only allows boarding, nothing against skiers, just alta
Would be interesting. That wouldn’t end the bigotry tho. 😕
Thats how whistler/blackcomb used to be. Two mountains right next to eachother. Could board on blackcomb but not at whistler.
Hey man, look up DRIFT boards. They are a cross between snowshoes and skis with climbing skins. The base model is about 250$ if your looking for a cheaper option they work really well. And the best advantage is they fit to skin trails already so you wont wreck them for the skiiers and splitboarders. Only downside is having to put them on your backpack while you ride. They dont feel to bad while riding though.
I have looked them up. Looks decent. But then I got a splitboard. 🤷♂️
@@BoredProgression word i enjoy my split aswell. I have a few boards so will often take the drift boards over the split just to have a variety in the back country, love my split but have a few directional boards i enjoy in the wide open powder.
That’s a great point.
When Alta first opened it was for everybody for a month... Then they changed it too Skiers only and my dad was one of the few people who legally rode the lift as a snowboarder. It was probably him and his friends that pissed off the skiers😂
You’re close. Alta opened in 1939 for skiing. Snowboarding got its start in the mid 70s and Alta actually allowed snowboarding there until 1984 and the ban on lift access has been there ever since. (Source: Alta Snowboard Team) I don’t doubt your dad was one of the few! I’m jealous!!
Well I guess I will have to correct him on that one
@@crosbysaign9367 No worries! lol. He was right that they used to allow boards.
I love the vibe from your videos!
Thanks dude!
You should try making a petition to open up the mountain for snowboarding
It’s been done a few times but maybe worth revisiting.
@@BoredProgression yeah since you have some viewers on your platform I think you could get a movement going
@@tygamble1286 did you miss the part where it went to the Supreme Court?
Subbed just cause of this video. Keep up the great work! Didn’t even know their were ski only resorts.
Thanks, and welcome to the fam!! 3 of them left. Pretty dumb.
Glad I found your Channel dude this is dope content
Thank you Luke! I’m glad too!! Welcome to the fam! 🤜🤛
Your the hero and the mountain thanks you
Yewww! Not the one we deserve, but the one we need right now. 😂 Thanks man.
You gotta admit that run woulda been a lot less meaningful without that hike. Sometimes it takes some work before you can truly enjoy something.
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If you can use the land, just not the lifts, then what's stopping you from using the snowbird lift and then taking Alta trails down?
Absolutely nothing, if the ski patrol gates are open. We do that sometimes.
You should go up snowbird's chairlift's and down on Alta to lap it.
Great idea. In fact, we have! Haha. Check out my "Final Ski Resort Day 2020" video from March!
@@BoredProgression Just saw it, Great video!
Anything that leans to "ONLY" whatever that might be I have a good feeling those types are real neat people.
You have a new subscriber!
Big Baba Thank you bro!! 🙏🙌
Love this snow! I have been praying hard. Hopefully I see you up on the slopes this year.
jollyodin Yesss. 🙏 Thank you!! Would be awesome! Hope to see you out there!
I don't really get why Alta has this rule. I/m pretty sure that they had/have no problem with mono skis.
You’re correct. They allow monoskis. So it sounds pretty discriminatory to me.
It’s mostly a people thing. Snowboarders used to and still do to a smaller extent shrug off the expected rules of the slopes and tend to be a rowdier crowd than the skiers. The way they move down the mountain is also different from skiers. Snowboarders slide much more which older skiers don’t appreciate because it screws up the flow of the moguls. I personally don’t really care but I understand why they want a skier only resort.
@@jamiewilliams2460 I get it with the moguls, but if I am being honest a lot of the skiers that I have seen in the moguls are in survival mode and doing a lot more damage than the boarders (who tend to steer clear of them in the first place). It's getting rare to see anyone ski the fall line through them.
I have a set of Hart Fusions that I use as an east coast all mountain ski and I get a lot of strange looks on the lift and comments about how straight and skinny my skis are. Every time I explain that it is a specialty mogul ski almost everyone tells me how much they hate moguls.
@@jamiewilliams2460 Thank you for your rational response.
Sick dude! This thanksgiving week is just absolutely gonna dump on utah and I’m soooo hype get some powder days in hopefully soon!
Christian Alvarez My guy! It’s already nuking in the Wasatch!! Yewwww
There is literally no point in not allowing snowboarders
@@sheliacole3301 I’m a local Alta skier so idk y ur getting heated😂 explain to me why we should exclude another sport other than a stupid tradition. Like there really is no reason
@@sheliacole3301 I personally don't care as there are plenty of other snow resorts, but I do think that doing something simply because of "tradition" is a stupid reason and another way of saying "because this is how it's always been". Lots of people are afraid of change, particularly older generation.
@@drinkbutthair8390 Because the "other sport" endangers those of us who have always been customers.
I used to come in through the keyhole at snowbird and head back to gold miners on my one plank for my shift :-) fun stuff
Hell yeah!
Thats weird. Why don't they allow snowboarders. Never seen that before. Everytime I go on skiing vacation (Im from europe so I dont know how its in the usa) I saw it as one sport and not two. This is simply discrimination against snowboarders. Hope youre allowed to snowboard their in the future
De wissel Speler I agree!! 💯%! It’s mostly old people running Alta who don’t want us there. They’re a dying breed but clinging onto one of the last places with segregation.
These are the same old farts that forced black people to the back of the buss
Martin A Right?? 🙌
The only reason is because the mountain is old school and my dad told me when he was a kid snowboarding was just invented and everyone hated them because they used to push all the snow to the side of the trail or some shit like that but now they’re a little better so idk. They might eventually let them snowboard there.
Awsome music I felt like I was there, I wanna snowboard soooo bad 😭. Just bought some Burton step ons and can’t even explain how much I want to go out.😢
It’s gonna be here before we know it!
And of course I get a skiing add.
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Kewl man, great content brother. Excited for this season and seeing ya hit 1k!
Miles Hatch Thank you my dude!! 🙌 💪 Me too!
I started skiing when I was 2 but I hated it so I switched to snowboarding till I was 10 and then I tried skiing again and found out that it was one of my talents and on the second day of skiing I found jumps and 2 days later I was do tricks and grinding but I have no problem with snow boarders it was fun y I snow boarded I won’t ever go to Alta until they fix there system. It’s like racism towards snow boarders and it sucks to watch u have to hike all of that just for one ride down the slopes. I have friends that snow board and it’s not right that they have to hike and skiers don’t. Alta fix ur system
Thank you friend!! 🙏👏👏👏
This was before they officially open, correct? My understanding is snowboarders can hike up and ride before opening hours and after closing. In any case, nice work defiling Alta whether during official hours or not. You've inspired an old man to do the same.
Correct! I've been going there now after they closed too. Check out my latest video. Glad to hear it, man! Get some!!
@@BoredProgression Righteous. Keep it up, brother. I'm up in Davis Co and 'Basin is home for me.
Sick! SB is on my list to hit next season 🤞
@@BoredProgression Rad. Give me a SO when you do.
I do bodyboard and I can't imagine going to a beach and it being a surf or bodyboard only beach like wtf
Great example!
all of us snowboarders should make a only snowboard resort
Please do.