tilda made an amazing point and they weren't listening or perhaps they didn't understand... how can people their age NOT get her point? trailers are basically insurance. If you didn't have a trailer it would be more of a liability to the production team and the movie as a whole. it has nothing to do with the actor but more to do with the fluidity of how the movie is shot and giving actors trailers (however fancy they may be) keeps them in a known location where all their needs are met ... ON SET ... which makes the directors life a whole lot easier. They are commodities.
I work in filmproduction. A lot of times an actor has his/her agent write the trailers and the commodeties in the contract. And as soon as one big trailer is on set, other actors contact their agents and want to renegotiate because they feel less important. This became a competition. The trailer as a reprasentation of an actors value. A lot of ego is involved. Most actors are not as humble as Tilda Swinton. This is the main reason.
@@christofjork8446 : i thought that that was their point. that ‘other actors’ were assholes. (personally i would want something that i don’t associate with trailers: fresh air!)
@@christofjork8446 yes, i very much like her work. it’s odd, to me, that people still don’t seem to understand the fact that it’s very different in Europe. the adoration for actors and directors is there, too, because i remember that Louis Malle’s funeral was crazy, but still, it’s a bit more of a ‘job’ to be an actor.
@@subversivelysurreal3645 Perhaps in Europe actors realize they are professional liars. In Hollywood, actors either don't realize or don't care they are whores for corporate interests-and spend their time trying to convince each other it isn't so, they are enlightened and doing "important work" by schilling Nestlé coffee, watches, booze and makeup. So cringe.
I think Clooney has the ego of "not having an ego", Tilda's perspective seems more level headed. She's able to disassociate ego from the scenario entirely and just see see the trailers for what they are, pragmatic tools of the production.
I got the impression she thought it was some kind of grand realization - "...that the moment you sign the contract they own you!" Oh, really? Your employer owns your ass and expects you to work? Amaze balls!
@@AlexisKasperavicius Agreed. Everyone here in the comments seems to have grasped her point, I doubt any of her fellow actors at the table failed to do so. But the topic as raised by Clooney was actors' emotional relationship to the trailer phenomenon, not the function of trailers on a set. Her point was both off topic and included a humble brag.
also i found charlize to be the most self conscious. and tilda to be the most authentic. clooney seems like he's running for class president. viola is also deeply real and unaffected. fassbender is neutral and plummer is old school. fascinating.
There is a plot her: Aging actors can't get a gig, so they get together to make their own movie. The cast is right here (although all these people definitely don't lack gigs)
He may have been born in Northern Kentucky but his father, Nick Clooney had a daytime show in Cincinnati for decades. I always considered him to be from Cincinnati. He sur'enough doesn't sound like he's from Kentucky.
What people don't understand is that Tilda here tries to explain why the size of one's trailer becomes so closely intertwined with one's ego, but she is interrupted a lot and eventually drops it. Her point is inherently relevant to Clooney's. Rendering actors a 'commodity' by means of having them stay in a trailer is creating a sort of system. Having smaller and bigger trailers creates a system hierarchy. So in the confines of such a system, people begin to place value on their little luxuries that set them apart from their co-workers who happen to stay in a smaller trailer. They assign importance to that and vie for it, eventually forgetting that in essence they are not free, but contractually obligated to be in a specific vocation, for a specific period of time. This situation (co-option of the system's threat, in a way) is perfectly depicted in the film 'Raise the Red Lantern.' I think that's how Tilda tries to go about it, but the rest are too hung up on the idea of ego and they completely miss the point.
@@georg_couch Theyre all perfectly bright folks......but Tilda is LEAGUES beyond all of them in terms of sheer intelligence. She;'s playing nice, as she always does.
Okay, I've watched about three of these, excited about Fassbender!! But the more of these I watch, the more in love I am with Tilda Swinton... The more in love with how when Viola Davis talks, everyone shuts up and listens!! It's so fucking amazing how Tilda and Viola have more intelligence, wit, humour and authority than George!! They are quite simply "the man" any and every woman would love to marry!!
People constantly bad-mouth actors and celebrities for being egotistical, but whenever I see a roundtable like this they always seem to be humble, smart, and not to take themselves that seriously. I seriously think people only believe A-listers like Clooney and Pitt are egotistical because they are constantly being told that by bloggers and tabloid authors who are jealous of their success.
Even in a kind of photo-shoot glam-interview: Tilda Swinton just killing it, making you think, making you feel, making you question. No one like her. No one.
Love the insight here. I'm totally gonna remember this the next time the production company doesn't give me a huge trailer for the movie I'm starring in.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with being pampered, even if you are acting in a role of an impoverished soldier in blood-soaked mud. Olivier was not "method" because it was his job to act.
So full of my favourite people!!! Thank you God for giving life to the people who decided to put Fassbender, Swinton, Theron all in the same room. Now can Swinton please make out with Theron kthnx.
I just found this whole series. I hope Daily Beast is able to keep this up. This is one of the most insightful discussions I've seen about hollywood in a long time.
Check Newsweek and Hollywood Reporter around "Oscar season," they do these every year. A few years ago Hollywood Reporter also started adding directors, producers, cinematographers, composers etc. They're great.
the funny thing is that half of them weren't even nominated; but I'm not really surprised because there were a lot of strong performances this year and only five slots per category.
After seeing all of these segments, I've come to believe that Charlize is a very sheltered individual... Very protected!! When Tilda is talking about how production companies can reduce an actor to become a commodity/possession, Charlize is talking about "Princess behaviour" in the same topic!! In another segment, Viola is talking about the politics of film and racial orientation and Charlize is talking about beauty in the same conversation!! She is very... protected!!
Umm I know this was out in 2012 I just ran across it while in between shows, so let me tell you from my perspective as a below the line employee. These “ trailers” they go on about are taken care of by me. Me. I’m the Basecamp guy. There is also a Honeywagon ( Long Tractor-Trailer that has changing rooms & Mens/Women’s bathroom for crew only) guy. Between usually the 2 of us or sometimes just me. These actors/actresses the minute they drive into BC, it’s Groundhog Day. They cannot, drive a car, turn on lights, flush a toilet, use a tv remote, get coffee/water/food, get to set( which can be the stage in front of them or a van/car to take them to set which is a foot away from their trailer) their collective memory is gone till the show is over, then a miracle happens & they miraculously can do everything & when you see them again weeks or month’s later they don’t know who you are at all. This of course is not all of them it’s a generalization of a large percentage, this is not Hollywood 1940’s 50’s there is so much going on above line/below line. We are now told after taking multiple Harassment classes ( Mandatory). Privately after the class DO NOT TALK TO ANY WOMEN AT ALL except if spoken too. We now hide in small groups, make no eye contact, look the other way, pick up your phone & take fake phone calls & walk away.. it’s a sad place today. Not for these actors, they have serious power, & can cancel your career with 1 sentence to the UPM, & your gone into oblivion. and yet they complain about trailers, the stories I could tell you. Narcissistic and crazy weirdos.
Fascinating, lol. I just felt they were talking out there arse as soon as they got on to the trailer topic, lol. If you are used to it, the bias is almost inescapable, though Swinton seems to break through the veil somewhat.
I encourage folks to remember that oftentimes it's not this way for that way but it's both. Swinton has a valid point on the pragmatic way productions view the use of trailers. However, I would also assume there have been insecure "stars" that have lost their $#!+ because their insurance rider demands weren't met regarding the size of or provisions aboard their trailers. It's interesting how some in this thread cling or dismiss a narrative because they like (Clooney > Swinton) or don't like (Clooney < Swinton) someone. Life is nuance. Two or more possibilities can be true.
"Being in a trailer is not fun". Exactly right. It's about where the trailer is parked at the time. Living on set must be the ultimate RV experience. Though I still prefer the American south west.
I think Charlize and Michael would make a good couple. Whatcha think??? Also Love 3:20 and on when Charlize was "See how hard it is?" (Michael laughs) then George "Its hard, actings hard!" haha
Those tremendously green, green, green eyes kinda freak me out. They're cool, but I keep getting a reptile alien vibe. My mother has green eyes, but not that green!!! Crazy! 🍀👀😬
im not a body language expert but it is interesting like how many people here have seen, Charlize is so obviously into Fassbender, she is leaning so hard into him, but Fassbender's body language seems to be very uncomfortable with it.
She is SO in love!! how did you spot that? haha, it is undeniable. she looking at him like she wants to eat him up! must be nice to have Charlize Theron salivating over you.
George talks as if he'd never feel bad if he was assigned a small trailer or none at all during a filmshoot. This gives producers an out. They can cut costs by not providing George with a trailer in future films.
tilda made an amazing point and they weren't listening or perhaps they didn't understand... how can people their age NOT get her point? trailers are basically insurance. If you didn't have a trailer it would be more of a liability to the production team and the movie as a whole. it has nothing to do with the actor but more to do with the fluidity of how the movie is shot and giving actors trailers (however fancy they may be) keeps them in a known location where all their needs are met ... ON SET ... which makes the directors life a whole lot easier. They are commodities.
They were listening and they understood they’re just too fucking pompous and full of themselves to agree.
I work in filmproduction. A lot of times an actor has his/her agent write the trailers and the commodeties in the contract. And as soon as one big trailer is on set, other actors contact their agents and want to renegotiate because they feel less important. This became a competition. The trailer as a reprasentation of an actors value. A lot of ego is involved. Most actors are not as humble as Tilda Swinton. This is the main reason.
@@christofjork8446 : i thought that that was their point. that ‘other actors’ were assholes. (personally i would want something that i don’t associate with trailers: fresh air!)
@@christofjork8446 yes, i very much like her work. it’s odd, to me, that people still don’t seem to understand the fact that it’s very different in Europe. the adoration for actors and directors is there, too, because i remember that Louis Malle’s funeral was crazy, but still, it’s a bit more of a ‘job’ to be an actor.
@@subversivelysurreal3645 Perhaps in Europe actors realize they are professional liars. In Hollywood, actors either don't realize or don't care they are whores for corporate interests-and spend their time trying to convince each other it isn't so, they are enlightened and doing "important work" by schilling Nestlé coffee, watches, booze and makeup. So cringe.
I think Clooney has the ego of "not having an ego", Tilda's perspective seems more level headed. She's able to disassociate ego from the scenario entirely and just see see the trailers for what they are, pragmatic tools of the production.
OMG, exactly! So perfectly worded.
I got the impression she thought it was some kind of grand realization - "...that the moment you sign the contract they own you!" Oh, really? Your employer owns your ass and expects you to work? Amaze balls!
@@AlexisKasperavicius Agreed. Everyone here in the comments seems to have grasped her point, I doubt any of her fellow actors at the table failed to do so. But the topic as raised by Clooney was actors' emotional relationship to the trailer phenomenon, not the function of trailers on a set. Her point was both off topic and included a humble brag.
Yeah
Yes I might show people this video as an example of a good way to distinguish false humility from true humility
Tilda Swinton's eyes are greener than Ireland and Green Lantern put together, plus they're soul piercing.
captivating
Striking. That's the best term for her look. Totally unique.
More alien like than "soul piercing".
Snow piercing *wink*
She would be awesome as a female Android opposite Fassbender in alien
also i found charlize to be the most self conscious. and tilda to be the most authentic. clooney seems like he's running for class president. viola is also deeply real and unaffected. fassbender is neutral and plummer is old school. fascinating.
There is a plot her: Aging actors can't get a gig, so they get together to make their own movie.
The cast is right here (although all these people definitely don't lack gigs)
What I love about these roundtables is the actors become real people. They sit here and chat about their experiences just like anyone else.
Tilda Swinton has striking green eyes!
when I die and go to Heaven I'll be listening to Tilda talking 24/7
After watching many of these roundtables. I'm still not sure where Clooney is from... could it be KENTUCKY?????
Could make a drinking game out of it, every time he mentions it...
LMAO
He may have been born in Northern Kentucky but his father, Nick Clooney had a daytime show in Cincinnati for decades. I always considered him to be from Cincinnati. He sur'enough doesn't sound like he's from Kentucky.
@@c.a.savage5689 George's dad ran for political office in Kentucky. The opposition didn't hold back using George against his dad.
@@fromthehaven94 didn't know that but not surprised. It's Kentucky, after all...
What people don't understand is that Tilda here tries to explain why the size of one's trailer becomes so closely intertwined with one's ego, but she is interrupted a lot and eventually drops it. Her point is inherently relevant to Clooney's. Rendering actors a 'commodity' by means of having them stay in a trailer is creating a sort of system. Having smaller and bigger trailers creates a system hierarchy. So in the confines of such a system, people begin to place value on their little luxuries that set them apart from their co-workers who happen to stay in a smaller trailer. They assign importance to that and vie for it, eventually forgetting that in essence they are not free, but contractually obligated to be in a specific vocation, for a specific period of time. This situation (co-option of the system's threat, in a way) is perfectly depicted in the film 'Raise the Red Lantern.' I think that's how Tilda tries to go about it, but the rest are too hung up on the idea of ego and they completely miss the point.
Agree but it’s “confines”
@@lsjt8924 thank you for your assistance
@@georg_couch Theyre all perfectly bright folks......but Tilda is LEAGUES beyond all of them in terms of sheer intelligence. She;'s playing nice, as she always does.
Really? Lol,so am I the only one feeling that Tilda is the only person making any remote sense around this triangulartable?
Yep.
@@ngc-fo5te Much the brightest there
Her and Viola Davis
Lol nobody but Davis and Plummer seemed smart enough to understand what Tilda was saying
I think Charlize theron is scaring me with the lustful stare o.O
What I wouldn't do to have Chalize stare at me with a smile just 4 inches away from my face like at 1:10
I have never seen eyes like the ones on Tilda... Enchanting!
Why is Tilda so perfect?
I think Fassbender is the only man in the world who does not fancy Charlize. :oO
She fancies him just look at the body language
Okay, I've watched about three of these, excited about Fassbender!! But the more of these I watch, the more in love I am with Tilda Swinton... The more in love with how when Viola Davis talks, everyone shuts up and listens!! It's so fucking amazing how Tilda and Viola have more intelligence, wit, humour and authority than George!! They are quite simply "the man" any and every woman would love to marry!!
Y’all should post this as the full thing
1:11 leave the man alone she gonna eat him with her stares jeez
Tilda's eyes are amazing!
"I'm from Kentucky, I'm from Kentucky, wahh wahh" I'm from Kentucky and I don't start every sentence with how I'm from Kentucky.
People constantly bad-mouth actors and celebrities for being egotistical, but whenever I see a roundtable like this they always seem to be humble, smart, and not to take themselves that seriously.
I seriously think people only believe A-listers like Clooney and Pitt are egotistical because they are constantly being told that by bloggers and tabloid authors who are jealous of their success.
In one of the other clips, she says she watched 'Shame'.
That point could explain it...
Even in a kind of photo-shoot glam-interview: Tilda Swinton just killing it, making you think, making you feel, making you question. No one like her. No one.
Tilda sees things differently from the rest of us...nice.
Tilda's eyes are mesmerizing.
Love the insight here. I'm totally gonna remember this the next time the production company doesn't give me a huge trailer for the movie I'm starring in.
omg I love Tilda Swinton
There's absolutely nothing wrong with being pampered, even if you are acting in a role of an impoverished soldier in blood-soaked mud. Olivier was not "method" because it was his job to act.
It took me almost 2:00 to realize they were seriously talking about trailers.
so how come roundtable is triangular?
HOW MANY TIMES DID CLOONEY MENTION HE IS FROM KENTUCKY???!! DAMN
Sound is not good! I have my Ipad turned all the way up, but it’s hard to hear. Can you adjust on this series of videos?
Viola Davis is so fucking cool.
Love Tilda.
So full of my favourite people!!! Thank you God for giving life to the people who decided to put Fassbender, Swinton, Theron all in the same room. Now can Swinton please make out with Theron kthnx.
I know other people have commented on it...but yeah...was is with the looks, touching, flirting going on from Charlize to Michael?
I just found this whole series. I hope Daily Beast is able to keep this up. This is one of the most insightful discussions I've seen about hollywood in a long time.
Check Newsweek and Hollywood Reporter around "Oscar season," they do these every year. A few years ago Hollywood Reporter also started adding directors, producers, cinematographers, composers etc. They're great.
Plummer among them is like Godzilla hanging-out with a bunch of small salamanders.
Tilda's eyes are fucking GREEEEEEN
the funny thing is that half of them weren't even nominated; but I'm not really surprised because there were a lot of strong performances this year and only five slots per category.
Does anyone know where this full rountable is?
I love those green eyes
I love Tilda Swinton. She is so talented and a marvel to watch. She is a gorgeous woman.
People are giving Clooney a hard time, but he seems to walk the walk. I've never heard people complain about working with him.
There is a lot of power in this room lol
wow! tilda's eyes! ive never seen eyes that colour before!
After seeing all of these segments, I've come to believe that Charlize is a very sheltered individual... Very protected!!
When Tilda is talking about how production companies can reduce an actor to become a commodity/possession, Charlize is talking about "Princess behaviour" in the same topic!!
In another segment, Viola is talking about the politics of film and racial orientation and Charlize is talking about beauty in the same conversation!!
She is very... protected!!
I feel like Tilda must be one of the most interesting famous people to talk
So trailer and trailer is spelled the same hmm.
after watching several of these roundtables involving George Clooney, i'm still not sure where he's from.... maybe Kentucky?!?!
Cincinnati. Or northen Kentucky (across the river).
Oh my gawd, I adore Tilda
Oh my gosh Tilda Swinton is amazing
Umm I know this was out in 2012 I just ran across it while in between shows, so let me tell you from my perspective as a below the line employee. These “ trailers” they go on about are taken care of by me. Me. I’m the Basecamp guy. There is also a Honeywagon ( Long Tractor-Trailer that has changing rooms & Mens/Women’s bathroom for crew only) guy. Between usually the 2 of us or sometimes just me. These actors/actresses the minute they drive into BC, it’s Groundhog Day. They cannot, drive a car, turn on lights, flush a toilet, use a tv remote, get coffee/water/food, get to set( which can be the stage in front of them or a van/car to take them to set which is a foot away from their trailer) their collective memory is gone till the show is over, then a miracle happens & they miraculously can do everything & when you see them again weeks or month’s later they don’t know who you are at all. This of course is not all of them it’s a generalization of a large percentage, this is not Hollywood 1940’s 50’s there is so much going on above line/below line. We are now told after taking multiple Harassment classes ( Mandatory). Privately after the class DO NOT TALK TO ANY WOMEN AT ALL except if spoken too. We now hide in small groups, make no eye contact, look the other way, pick up your phone & take fake phone calls & walk away.. it’s a sad place today. Not for these actors, they have serious power, & can cancel your career with 1 sentence to the UPM, & your gone into oblivion. and yet they complain about trailers, the stories I could tell you. Narcissistic and crazy weirdos.
Fascinating, lol. I just felt they were talking out there arse as soon as they got on to the trailer topic, lol. If you are used to it, the bias is almost inescapable, though Swinton seems to break through the veil somewhat.
Tilda Swinton's eyes are amazingly gorgeous.. Never noticed this before.
Fassbender & Theron Chemistry ?
Tilda looks like a beautiful alien(a compliment) I've never seen green eyes like that; they almost look neon.
Nobody relates to superstar actors. They don't live a normal life.
I encourage folks to remember that oftentimes it's not this way for that way but it's both. Swinton has a valid point on the pragmatic way productions view the use of trailers. However, I would also assume there have been insecure "stars" that have lost their $#!+ because their insurance rider demands weren't met regarding the size of or provisions aboard their trailers.
It's interesting how some in this thread cling or dismiss a narrative because they like (Clooney > Swinton) or don't like (Clooney < Swinton) someone.
Life is nuance. Two or more possibilities can be true.
Next time I’m working on a rig in the middle east I shall request my own “doublewide” to myself. There shall be mirth.
"Being in a trailer is not fun". Exactly right. It's about where the trailer is parked at the time. Living on set must be the ultimate RV experience. Though I still prefer the American south west.
Theron, "I have seen some princess behavior." @2:28, Michael is like, "B, they're talking about you." LOL
tilda describes the actor as a commodity, controlled by the production company. and everyone seems to concur- with marx.
Yeah, he's said he is from Kentucky a few times.
She was leaning towards him (and he towards her) even before that.
Charlize is all over Michael. Just the way she looks at him. Like she’s starving and he’s a 3 course meal
OMG she looks at everyone like that. Go check her interview with david oyelowo, she even hug and look even more closer. You guys just crazy
Yes, I am reading the comments & and I am saying nobody notices this!
@Msn-vm3zz really 🤔interesting
Tilda is a true artist, out of all of them.
was Fassbender blushing ?.. lol
@TheANTIGONE3 Agreed. I could listen to Christopher Plummer all day!
I think Charlize and Michael would make a good couple. Whatcha think??? Also Love 3:20 and on when Charlize was "See how hard it is?" (Michael laughs) then George "Its hard, actings hard!" haha
1:09 my fucking God....better than a porn
Charlize Theron fuck me eyes to Fassbender the whole time he's talking
Absolutely. Not backward in coming forward our Charlize :)
1:12: Charleze lusting after Fassy big time. She would swallow him whole if she could.
doubtful, he's hung like John Holmes
Michael says he not attracted to blondes and I believe Zoe Kravitz was his girlfriend during that film.
Wholly crap, Tilda's eyes are GREEN!!
Viola Davis is kind of sad how she kinds of blend into the background. They should really talk to the set designer, Davis was being invisible.
Michael: there are some exceptions...indeed XD
Is Tilda wearing contacts or are her eyes that green. Wow!
Tilda is the boss.
"LEave him out" Even George Clooney wants some of Michael
Tilda and charlize r so gorgeous and talented
George loves being the Alpha male
Those tremendously green, green, green eyes kinda freak me out. They're cool, but I keep getting a reptile alien vibe. My mother has green eyes, but not that green!!! Crazy! 🍀👀😬
George seems like a fun guy to have at a party, very open and opinionated.
im not a body language expert but it is interesting like how many people here have seen, Charlize is so obviously into Fassbender, she is leaning so hard into him, but Fassbender's body language seems to be very uncomfortable with it.
Charlize is close to everyone. stop overthinking
@@Msn-vm3zz just rewatched... it'd be overthinking to come to the opposite of my conclusion.
Charlize wants a part of Michael Fassbender at 1:18
Beautiful people
These Charlize comments are pretty damn true. Fine woman though, damned gorgeous.
Damn Charlize! The girl is so into Michael, she isn't even trying to hide it...can't blame her, I'd do the same thing if I was in her place.
She close to everyone. Stop overthinking
Anyone who says they wouldn't flirt with Fassbender, male or female, is a liar. A bold faced liar.
She is SO in love!! how did you spot that? haha, it is undeniable. she looking at him like she wants to eat him up! must be nice to have Charlize Theron salivating over you.
she looks at every one like that, even african american David Oyelowo . You just so naive
@Tigerlily21 So Stacey ain't white?
... Did you see Monster?
@dlfunky1 zoe kravitz is with penn badgely
Charlize is totally cuddling up to Fassbender and flirting. Likewise with Fassbender.
I think Charlize wants Michael to visit her in her trailer.
George talks as if he'd never feel bad if he was assigned a small trailer or none at all during a filmshoot. This gives producers an out. They can cut costs by not providing George with a trailer in future films.
@stillhere0326 Chill out. They've known wach other since they were kids. They worked with each other twice.
Yeah I get so pissed when they give someone else the biggest trailer!!