The thing that surprised me the most with the animated movie was how great the animation was because for years DC's animated movies have had very reduced budgets and very limited animation.
The tomorrow-verse I think would have benefited more being stand alone elseworld stories like the doom that came to Gotham. Instead of being a connected universe.
Agreed! I'm so damn tired of connected universes. Just let things be separate again instead of making everything connected again and again. Long Halloween did not and should not have been apart of the tomorrow verse. In my opinion the tomorrow verse as well the new 52 animated universe should never have existed to begin with
Definitely one of the odder stories to come out of DC Comics' Elseworlds, but the adaptation did a fair job of humanizing most of the characters, grounding them in an otherwise supernatural setting. As this was the second time David Giuntoli voiced Bruce Wayne/Batman, again in a Batman-centric plot involving magic and/or the supernatural, I wouldn't be surprised if he reprises the role in the future, only in works that involved such elements.
I just read the comic and it's now one of my fav Batman stories. Mignola's obsession with Lovecraftian horror fused with Batman's rich history is a great combo
Ive never read this comic before but I enjoyed this movie, it's definitely weird and gets trippy with all the Lovecraft themes and I do like how they attempted to give deeper character analysis in this movie. Overall I liked it, though I wouldn't say its my favourite Elseworld movie
Good essay but people only surface level acquainted with Lovecraft's work always seem to overplay the racism. Lovecraft was an almost extreme Xenophobic. It didn't matter what race it was, anyone who isn't specifically apart of the English who settled New England is a target. See the Delapore's of The Rats in the Walls as a prime example. Most likely he had these because he lived in isolation for a good part of his childhood, being taken out of school for long periods due to mystery illnesses. And some of the degerative elements of family life were probably a bit autobiographical, considering how his own father was imprisoned in a madhouse. Even so, he did relent a lot of these views later on in his life and didn't hardly recieve any recognition and money while he was still alive. I just hate how every essayist has to go into this again and again, but thank you for making it brief.
Thanks for the video. I personally enjoyed the movie regardless of the changes or not fully reacting the creepiness of the original comic's art style. Speaking of art style, i wish the Tomorrowverse movies had one similar style to this. It's different enough from Dcamu that would indicate a new thing while also being appealing and something that feels that it had budget behind it.
It's also a recurring theme in the "Hellboy" movies, where Hellboy is the only character who can stop the Big Bad Demon thing and anyone else who tries to help is doomed..unless they also have powers.
Batman and Lovecraftian cosmic horror mysteries are made for each other. It allows him to be at his finest as a warrior and a super genius polymathic intellectual while keeping him close to his roots as the world's greatest detective.
Are you experimenting with something in you critiques? Leg day? Fried chicken wings in the next video? Small pieces to a larger puzzle. Or the unhinged, directionless musings of a trouble emotional state? I hope you're well.
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Really doesn't sound so bad of an adaptation when you consider it from all sides, I mean I like Mignola's stuff but adding more character and characters wanting to do genuine good in contrast with the bad was something I liked cause modern DC adaptations and some comics don't often show it. Though I do agree the art style could have been creepier and it was likely budget that held it back. Else an art style and design approach like The Batman probably could have worked, or the Hellboy animated movies which do add a lot of gnarliness to their monsters despite being simpler drawn than their source material.
I love seeing Batman mixed with magic and getting in some cameos of Ollie and Jason Blood?! Extra points for me! I thought it was an interesting choice to mix ol' Cthulu and Batman for a story and an even more interesting idea to have the mighty Ra's Al Ghul answer to a higher master...but there's something...janky about the film. I feel like there are things being skipped over and moved so fast.
The "tradition counters cosmic horror" idea I find interesting. It implies the whole genre is really a single type of story conflict: Tradition Vs. Change. Perhaps that's not surprising that Lovecraft would write that way; But it IS surprising that the entirety of his original cosmic horror (A genre I should remind you that is entirely centered around not being able to comprehend the nature of cosmic truth) is in essence as easy to understand as any other genre. His cosmos, Lovecraft's cosmos, is fundamentally knowable. He completely failed at what he was trying to do; And he will never know that. It took a bit to get there so he's already long gone. Fascinating.
At First I Was Like: "OK. I see what you're trying to do here. Keeping in background chatter from the film and sometimes making the music drown out your talking to simulate the creeping madness offered by the old gods and I respect the creative decision BUT it's making it real hard to hear all your wonderfully pretentious thoughts and I feel like there's more value in that for this style than a little bit of experimental creative expression" Then I Realized I accidentally left a moving playing in another tab. Keep Up the Good Work
I'm fine with people calling other people they disagree with as "racists", because you should only care if they call them "racists" AND (more importantly) "wrong"...
Howie was a severely mentally ill man who was on his way to unlearning his racism by time he died. While this doesn't change the underlying racism in his works it does mean we can stop condemning the man every time we have to mention him and his work.
love the comic and I liked the movie! But I find the find the art in both a little underwhelming. The movie really needed that Spawn animated series style shadows. I absolutely love all Robins being different ethnicities. I wish we could do this everywhere without having to deal with current media landscape
6:07 I always forget that the man was a giant racist but also in his defense he was born in the what 19 00s like early 1900s so that quote is from 1930s he said right so most people in the country were very very racist at that time I mean this is before integration so they still had black and white schools and water fountains and entrances and stuff that was the time when racism would have just been ingrained into you from birth because everything around you being the way it was
Look, before I properly watch the video, we gotta discuss that title, buddy 💀
No it's perfect
For real bruh
I honestly expected something very different
I thought this was porn. Disappointing.
Thought it said that came from batman's pants 💀
"The Doom that came to Batman's pants"
Very sus
He had to many burritos with the ghost pepper sauce
"Batman! I am Victor von Doom! And I want to ask: Who is your tailor?!? Doom must know!"
"You broke through the barrier separating your multiverse from ours to ask about my pants?"
@@cbl123123 "For Doom there is no barrier he cannot break through if it means I will look my very best!"
Doom toots as he pleases
"The Doom that came to Batman's pants"
Again? Alfred's going to be so mad.
I love the use of HP sauce background for all of Lovecraft’s quotes
The thing that surprised me the most with the animated movie was how great the animation was because for years DC's animated movies have had very reduced budgets and very limited animation.
It felt pretty cheap to me, at least compared to some of the earlier DC animated projects
@@jasonberryman1035 Well it certainly looks better than anything in the DCAMU it the Tomorrowverse.
As always, the title makes us wonder if he keeps having accidents at stores again.
Listen, dude only had a bladder spasm once
@@chrisdiokno5600 how do you know it was once?
@@mandalorianhunter1 True
Like the soup store?
“The Doom That Came to Batman’s Pants.”
…. Talia Al Ghoul?
Too far 😢
Damn, Batman must have eaten too much Taco Bell.
Ah so this about AceVane Batman
The gigachad part was... Unexpected, but funny.
"A video essay about patterns" delivered through the lens of a cartoon?
MY AUTISM GOT STRONGER REAARRRGHH
The tomorrow-verse I think would have benefited more being stand alone elseworld stories like the doom that came to Gotham. Instead of being a connected universe.
Agreed! I'm so damn tired of connected universes. Just let things be separate again instead of making everything connected again and again. Long Halloween did not and should not have been apart of the tomorrow verse. In my opinion the tomorrow verse as well the new 52 animated universe should never have existed to begin with
The gigachad grindset at the end caught me off guard ngl.
Ok that title man. I know Batman gets freaky but WTF
I love that the moral of this lovecraftian tale is that Batman just needs to GRIND more
Watched this film on an acid trip. Mad experience
I thought we’d only be getting a caped crusader video but then I this lovely video comes out.
Technically any doom that comes to all of Gotham also comes to Batman’s pants.
Definitely one of the odder stories to come out of DC Comics' Elseworlds, but the adaptation did a fair job of humanizing most of the characters, grounding them in an otherwise supernatural setting. As this was the second time David Giuntoli voiced Bruce Wayne/Batman, again in a Batman-centric plot involving magic and/or the supernatural, I wouldn't be surprised if he reprises the role in the future, only in works that involved such elements.
This is probably the best title I’ve seen
Christ bless you and I was not expecting the grindset jokes toward the end 😂
The doom that came to the Batpants
Watching your videos gives me comfort
That HP sauce cameo is rather funny and fitting
I saw this last month, was so nice to see batman indulge in magic in this alternate reality
Glad to see HP sauce recognised as the true Eldritch horror
Watched this movie with some friends and we really enjoyed the film. Thanks for talking about it 😃
Even though I dont like either magic or batman, together they made something awesome! Guess 2 negatives do equal a positive
you know i got to say the outro music never rang more true "im so confused right now" lololololol
They posted almost all of btas on TH-cam I've been rewatching and hearing your voice in my head on occasion
I just read the comic and it's now one of my fav Batman stories. Mignola's obsession with Lovecraftian horror fused with Batman's rich history is a great combo
The goon that came on thotham
Bro I’m watching before I do legs I felt called out
For those looking for Elseworlds titles with no Batman, I cannot recommend Justice Riders by Chuck Dixon enough
THE DOOM THAT DID WHAT TO BATMAN'S WHAT???
I have long awaited the day when implicitly pretentious would talk about lovecraftian themes. And the day has finally come.
Ive never read this comic before but I enjoyed this movie, it's definitely weird and gets trippy with all the Lovecraft themes and I do like how they attempted to give deeper character analysis in this movie. Overall I liked it, though I wouldn't say its my favourite Elseworld movie
Great take on the movie dude, nice work!
Didn't know Doom x Batman Shipping came with the essays, I like it though
implicity pretentiously pleased to find a new video 😊
And another great video
Good essay but people only surface level acquainted with Lovecraft's work always seem to overplay the racism. Lovecraft was an almost extreme Xenophobic. It didn't matter what race it was, anyone who isn't specifically apart of the English who settled New England is a target. See the Delapore's of The Rats in the Walls as a prime example. Most likely he had these because he lived in isolation for a good part of his childhood, being taken out of school for long periods due to mystery illnesses. And some of the degerative elements of family life were probably a bit autobiographical, considering how his own father was imprisoned in a madhouse.
Even so, he did relent a lot of these views later on in his life and didn't hardly recieve any recognition and money while he was still alive.
I just hate how every essayist has to go into this again and again, but thank you for making it brief.
Dr Doom did WHAT in Batman’s pants???
Thanks for the video. I personally enjoyed the movie regardless of the changes or not fully reacting the creepiness of the original comic's art style. Speaking of art style, i wish the Tomorrowverse movies had one similar style to this. It's different enough from Dcamu that would indicate a new thing while also being appealing and something that feels that it had budget behind it.
It's also a recurring theme in the "Hellboy" movies, where Hellboy is the only character who can stop the Big Bad Demon thing and anyone else who tries to help is doomed..unless they also have powers.
Batman and Lovecraftian cosmic horror mysteries are made for each other. It allows him to be at his finest as a warrior and a super genius polymathic intellectual while keeping him close to his roots as the world's greatest detective.
That's an...interesting title you got there.
Giggity.
Jeffrey Combs as Langstrom ❤
Time to grind
Are you experimenting with something in you critiques? Leg day? Fried chicken wings in the next video? Small pieces to a larger puzzle. Or the unhinged, directionless musings of a trouble emotional state? I hope you're well.
The Doom that came to BACK DAY
bro really played Twinkle Twinkle Little Star
The COOM that came to gotham
another killer title chief
Me: "Mm... I could really do with a new Implicitly Pretentious video... I wonder if I missed one..."
**checks my subscriptions**
Me: "Oh neat! Good timing!" 😹
LETS GOOOO
We all came here for the title to be explained.
the fact that there was a lazurus pit and they didn't use it pissed me off when I first watched it. If you aren't going to use it don't include it.
Ayo what's that title
Really doesn't sound so bad of an adaptation when you consider it from all sides, I mean I like Mignola's stuff but adding more character and characters wanting to do genuine good in contrast with the bad was something I liked cause modern DC adaptations and some comics don't often show it.
Though I do agree the art style could have been creepier and it was likely budget that held it back.
Else an art style and design approach like The Batman probably could have worked, or the Hellboy animated movies which do add a lot of gnarliness to their monsters despite being simpler drawn than their source material.
I love seeing Batman mixed with magic and getting in some cameos of Ollie and Jason Blood?! Extra points for me! I thought it was an interesting choice to mix ol' Cthulu and Batman for a story and an even more interesting idea to have the mighty Ra's Al Ghul answer to a higher master...but there's something...janky about the film. I feel like there are things being skipped over and moved so fast.
oh damn
The "tradition counters cosmic horror" idea I find interesting. It implies the whole genre is really a single type of story conflict: Tradition Vs. Change. Perhaps that's not surprising that Lovecraft would write that way; But it IS surprising that the entirety of his original cosmic horror (A genre I should remind you that is entirely centered around not being able to comprehend the nature of cosmic truth) is in essence as easy to understand as any other genre. His cosmos, Lovecraft's cosmos, is fundamentally knowable. He completely failed at what he was trying to do; And he will never know that. It took a bit to get there so he's already long gone. Fascinating.
Coom of the Doom
the title made me click genius work sir
The title 😟
alternative title:
"Talia Al Ghul"
At First I Was Like:
"OK. I see what you're trying to do here. Keeping in background chatter from the film and sometimes making the music drown out your talking to simulate the creeping madness offered by the old gods and I respect the creative decision BUT it's making it real hard to hear all your wonderfully pretentious thoughts and I feel like there's more value in that for this style than a little bit of experimental creative expression"
Then I Realized
I accidentally left a moving playing in another tab.
Keep Up the Good Work
I want a dark knights of steel movie/tv adaptation
Looking at the modern world it is funny how right Lovecraft was.
Also while it didn't detract from the story ypu can see the DEI effect on the movie.
Wow a whole TWO people that weren't white! It totally ruins everything!
How are Penguin & Grendon not covered in Frostbite?
It's not real
what kind of title is this bro
You might as well rename the title into "The Coom that Came to Batman's Pants" at this point 😂
❤️♥️
I'm fine with people calling other people they disagree with as "racists", because you should only care if they call them "racists" AND (more importantly) "wrong"...
Lovecraft was correct about most of what he wrote about tradition.
Nobody is stopping you from living your life with your head in the sand. Just stay in your corner and don't force the same on the rest of us.
@ Oh the irony in that comment.
I liked this movie
The Doom that came to where cuh? 😮
Not one Black Vulcan joke...
Was that Destiny Orbit Music I heard?
Ayo 🤨📸
What da freak
Why is bro zesty
In Batman what now?
……wait wat?
what?
Howie was a severely mentally ill man who was on his way to unlearning his racism by time he died. While this doesn't change the underlying racism in his works it does mean we can stop condemning the man every time we have to mention him and his work.
This isn’t true. He never recanted his racism. He only ever regretted being too open about it
Make a tmnt vid please
…What?
love the comic and I liked the movie! But I find the find the art in both a little underwhelming. The movie really needed that Spawn animated series style shadows.
I absolutely love all Robins being different ethnicities. I wish we could do this everywhere without having to deal with current media landscape
Really felt like the designs were too generic. Like, so many characters looked like normal Gotham versions
What is the heck is the title
I really don't know how to feel abiut doom that came to Gotham. I never read the xomic but the movie just seems odd to me, especially that ending
Wait did you say racism might be true at the end?
" Something... something changing your mind"....
So much wasted potential.
It’s an almost good adaptation that just rushed the ending.
6:07 I always forget that the man was a giant racist but also in his defense he was born in the what 19 00s like early 1900s so that quote is from 1930s he said right so most people in the country were very very racist at that time I mean this is before integration so they still had black and white schools and water fountains and entrances and stuff that was the time when racism would have just been ingrained into you from birth because everything around you being the way it was
Nah, people in his own time were calling him too racist. Lovecraft was on the super racism
Not my favorite elseworlds ngl, more of a classic crusader guy