KYOSHO vs MUGEN! HOW Are They Different?

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  • @GRIFF209
    @GRIFF209 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Joseph, you have taken every so called radio controld rc tech , how to, and instructional video and blown them completely out of the water! You have set a new standard for the rest of the "PRO" racers to step there shit up., and have done more for technical side of RC than all others combined that I have seen since i got into nitro 20 years ago! THANK YOU!.

  • @stevehein9061
    @stevehein9061 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    You always have a great way of explaining things in normal lingo even when you’re geeking out.

  • @corezero
    @corezero 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    More info in this video than in all Mugen, Kyosho, Xray, etc... videos ever made.

    • @invisiblespeedrc
      @invisiblespeedrc  4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Thanks! They should pay me

    • @nKzzZZZzzTV
      @nKzzZZZzzTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got a xray its a good race car but not for begginers

    • @keithbates8482
      @keithbates8482 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@invisiblespeedrc Yo when are you going to come out with a truggy?

  • @jukiranks
    @jukiranks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dude it's got to the point where I like video before I even watch, cause now as the rc community we need to make this channel successful. Info is too valuable and most watching TH-cam don't really do books.

  • @viper341
    @viper341 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow the amount of valuable things I've learned from you is incredible. You probably understand more about the physics of horse cars work better than most designers developing these cars.

  • @calebacquah292
    @calebacquah292 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As a mechanical engineer I very happy you used the correct terms and in the right context

  • @ardesignsrc
    @ardesignsrc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This is the shit we need to hear. Need to hear how the cars work and why things are made the way they are. Thanks for the videos.

  • @DavidslvPT
    @DavidslvPT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We definitely need more videos like this, it’s invaluable the amount of information you give us, thank you!

    • @invisiblespeedrc
      @invisiblespeedrc  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Working on 15+ hours of information here:
      Courses.invisiblespeed.com

  • @Crabtronics
    @Crabtronics 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Love the positive feedback. We need more of that in rc.

  • @johnnydavis8489
    @johnnydavis8489 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Awesome videos!! Negative feedback “people “ cannot be satisfied sir. They are everywhere whining and complaining. Keep up the great work

  • @isaiahfurrow7414
    @isaiahfurrow7414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know all your videos are focused on 1/8 scale, but my son is moving into 4wd 1/10 classes in the coming year and some of this is really helping me understand more about how things work. Thanks for the videos. Hope 2021 will he a good year for us all and for RC racing in general.

  • @manelcamposcosta
    @manelcamposcosta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most of the guys will never understand the value and the effort this guy is giving to us. I did also study mechanical engineering with more classes about cars and all those things he is talking would have been an entire discipline, body roll, roll centre, geometry modification while body roll, C.G. etc etc. it's a very complex thing for a regular guy like me and for sure for most of you but exploring all the different geometries is what guys are being paid a lot in F1 cars. There are books only talking about these things and I'm not talking in R/c cars. So my last words would be many thanks for the incredible work you are doing and the time you need to spend on these videos.

  • @jeijeei
    @jeijeei 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally somebody makes videos that are easy to understand! Awesome, kiitos näistä ja kesällä taas lavankoon jos meillä vielä rata siellä.

  • @SoCalledMaxiDon
    @SoCalledMaxiDon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    JQ, this is the first time ever I "hit that bell icon so that I don't miss any new videos ever again" and that's without the youtuber shouting that sentence at me 10x over the course of a single video. Awesome content.

  • @nathanwebster2800
    @nathanwebster2800 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep making the awesome videos they've really helped out meet me out a lot being new

    • @invisiblespeedrc
      @invisiblespeedrc  ปีที่แล้ว

      There are loads more on courses.invisiblespeed.net

  • @KnockedSoup
    @KnockedSoup 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I could watch these deep dives endlessly, I love demystifying what makes a car work or not work!

    • @invisiblespeedrc
      @invisiblespeedrc  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KnockedSoup then you should join my online course

  • @tinathellama6940
    @tinathellama6940 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is extremely useful information. Would love to hear some information about the front end in 2wd applications where the front end has no driving or braking forces. Also would like to know how different castor angles change the steering and handling characteristics.

  • @craigjones2015
    @craigjones2015 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yeah your carb settings and how to tune nitro is the one I was waiting for. You are the only one who has done that.

  • @angelomercolino3880
    @angelomercolino3880 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    By Italy, mister is a very expert complimenti.

  • @brianlackie5093
    @brianlackie5093 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The X ray doesn't have any front camber adjustments. It's factory set at 2 degrees unless the stop bushing is removed. It's basically a shimm that can be removed and then you can adjust camera wherever you want

  • @guidobacksmann9090
    @guidobacksmann9090 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Best RC contend out there 🙌🏽❤️🛫

  • @brandonpfister
    @brandonpfister ปีที่แล้ว

    This science is something I never knew about, as a non-racer. It reminds me of rake and trail with motorcycles (in a way). When the rake&trail geometry is wrong, you can have either dangerous steering or very heavy, sluggish steering and handling. Thank you for this!

  • @TheTripFam
    @TheTripFam 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how technical you are . I enjoy watching ur videos and learning from them. Thank you for going into such depth

  • @benhong3528
    @benhong3528 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This content is the best I have seen since forever. Can not get this kind of information anywhere. Thank you.

  • @Aladinscave
    @Aladinscave ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video! Excellent 👌🏻

  • @zannisgoutis2869
    @zannisgoutis2869 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The best technical rc video!

  • @RBAERO
    @RBAERO 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    As an Engineer and Designer, most my work are with aeronautic structure (most of them dimynamics) and CFD analysis. See the rc cars and your and their videos. Look's like the brands invest more on make new cars fast for selling new models and empirically improve those cars, more than really studied and analyzed the dynamics for make better models. Just my overview of RC cars now.

  • @NReyesPro
    @NReyesPro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude wow ... another Banger ... Love your videos ...

  • @magnusrx7
    @magnusrx7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Seen it twice now.
    Probably need one more but I love it!

  • @baggszilla
    @baggszilla 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how JQ explains the geometry of a chassis. Thanks bud. I will be picking up Invisible Speed very shortly.

  • @funkiwikid6106
    @funkiwikid6106 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another great explanation. But you know I have questions. Scrub radius and offset turning moment - is the turning due to an actual turning of the wheel due to rc cars clearance in the joints which won't happen on real cars, or is it a force about a point which acts on the chassis in the horizontal plane ? And why is only the lower arm outer pivot used to calculate offset on the rear ? Does the top rear arm angle affect the Kyosho example of grip under brakes. loose mid corner and grip on acceleration ?
    I subscribed and looked at the book but exchange to NZ is really expensive? Really enjoying your videos.

    • @invisiblespeedrc
      @invisiblespeedrc  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The turning moment is there on real cars too and will effect it the same

  • @sebtarta
    @sebtarta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Serpent has the inclined king pins as well. Hopefully you can do a video with Billy Easton talking about the engineering behind in the making of the cars.

  • @changepointauto
    @changepointauto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do a video on setup and what you look for on the track and the methodology on adjustments. What you do first and why etc.

  • @wannaknowbad
    @wannaknowbad 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I RACE ON ROAD DUDE AND YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. I WATCH YOU EVERY DAY. THANKS

    • @invisiblespeedrc
      @invisiblespeedrc  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      On road guys lurking...

    • @wannaknowbad
      @wannaknowbad 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@invisiblespeedrc We're all family, night? lol

  • @Themindsettrail
    @Themindsettrail ปีที่แล้ว

    Got the book and is helping me a lot as a beginner. Thank you !

  • @japan743
    @japan743 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Merci Sacha pour cette video. Maintenant une petite video pour nous expliquer comment regler un caisson de basses serait le graal ;-) AV concept au top. Cdt

  • @dimitriospapadopoulos3888
    @dimitriospapadopoulos3888 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done Joseph

  • @kendeline4054
    @kendeline4054 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video! Thank you for taking the time to make such an informative video.
    Keep up the great work.

  • @mikeylama
    @mikeylama 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    okay okay, so this bit of info was actually quite crucial when it comes to different chassi setup on the same track. I shall re-watch this video now, and take notes.

  • @devon5590
    @devon5590 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice review! Let’s see a video on all the winning IFMAR 1:8 nitro buggies and what they all have in common or don’t have in common. Kyosho holds the most wins for a certain time period. Why was this? We’re they so ahead in 1:8 development?

  • @DaiquiriMan
    @DaiquiriMan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love this type of vid ✌🏽

  • @TranceFur
    @TranceFur 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is fantastic. I was not aware of the importance of scrub radius and offsets.

  • @nathanwebster2800
    @nathanwebster2800 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are always awesome and very enjoyable to watch

  • @Getagrip77
    @Getagrip77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love this stuff. Keep it coming.

  • @proraptor4146
    @proraptor4146 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You make amazing RC racing videos, very informative and to the point. Thank you for your hard work 👍

  • @fleetc
    @fleetc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the video. Pretty clear explaination, awesome info!

  • @tHe_ViL1aiN
    @tHe_ViL1aiN 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I race touring car and you just opened a new Avenue of tuning😊 thanks bud👍🏾

  • @mahak213
    @mahak213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So by putting a narrow hex on the front of a pillow ball car, wouldn't that be increasing the negative scrub radius? It moves the center point of the contact patch even further away from the intersection of the steering axis, making the front end even more numb adding to that toe-out force?

  • @witzelrc
    @witzelrc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video buddy.
    Continuous doing this content and supporting us.

  • @ylizi6324
    @ylizi6324 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Sir! Subscribed! Took me a few replays to understand.

  • @federicopralong9350
    @federicopralong9350 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks thanks J. i apreciate the goods explanation and the hard work to find examples..i m not a good rider but i like to much understand the phisics that i don't takecare to change something on the car..thanks again Pralong from Argentina

  • @efremkiel8798
    @efremkiel8798 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great information! Learning a lot 🤘🏻

  • @michaelginther3298
    @michaelginther3298 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Thank you for taking the time and making the illustrations to educate us.

  • @ShasOAunLa
    @ShasOAunLa 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice content you got there. kind of enlightend me as a beginner in RC... definately want to get my hand on your book, keep up the great work!

  • @patrickrenison1578
    @patrickrenison1578 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best Videos I have seen so far, keep it up please.

  • @pineapplejoel1
    @pineapplejoel1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this video! It really helps me to understand my car (Mugen) a lot more and where to start tweaking adjustments. I really enjoy these science type videos. Just subscribed. Keep up the great work, and I look forward to more in the future.

  • @weaponofchoice8942
    @weaponofchoice8942 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is brilliant stuff. Once you explain things it is very hard to listen to others try to explain car handling and characteristics. please keep it up. I ordered your book. thanks

  • @JericCamps
    @JericCamps 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So I’m listening to this while driving and it’s very informative but am I correct in saying this? - you can adjust a C-Hub to drive exactly like a pivot ball, and vice versa.

    • @invisiblespeedrc
      @invisiblespeedrc  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, but mayako kpi1 is very similar to pivot ball

  • @donaldmorales8378
    @donaldmorales8378 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot for your time for these videos. Jq

  • @atarit3
    @atarit3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had to watch it twice. May explain why me pillow ball car and me don't sync up with my driving background, strange characteristics

  • @j-1lokes294
    @j-1lokes294 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are right. Buddy. I own a Mugen I feel that in the track. When you exit the corner can’t settle the front until I get corrected then I can accelerate. So I went toe in , but now I lost turn . Can’t make the car turn on power. Crazy what your saying it makes sense.

  • @richardling7088
    @richardling7088 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm buying a Mayako after watching this.

  • @RyanLutz
    @RyanLutz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great content Joseph!
    Question to complicate matters. Talking front end we know all this is static with 0 toe and no variation through the corners. But I would assume you can negate some effects you mentioned with bump. So you mentioned a PB car toeing in under braking, but in real world scenario you have weight transfer to front and front diving under said braking. Most pillow ball cars have a lot of bump out at top and bottom of stroke. So if the natural neutral tendency is to toe in, is the effect negated with a certain amount of bump out at the top of the stroke?

    • @invisiblespeedrc
      @invisiblespeedrc  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it can help to negate it, but I think the direction of the force still matters. Also I don’t understand the reason for large amounts of bump steer, in my opinion it makes things worse every time

  • @Mr.Hanna-1
    @Mr.Hanna-1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got a great deal on the original The Car and it came with The Engine. Cant wait to get it out on a track. Car and motor look high end.

  • @sergioparedes4531
    @sergioparedes4531 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good content. Now i understand what happend with the rear of my mugen.

  • @rccartips
    @rccartips 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Won't the front of a pillow ball give more mid corner steering due to the effect of kpi inclination? Thanks.

    • @invisiblespeedrc
      @invisiblespeedrc  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a video explaining it in detail on my channel

  • @RicoMan1992
    @RicoMan1992 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Solid info, solid videos thumbs up man

  • @felixmartinez9514
    @felixmartinez9514 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That very really good to watch. I learn alot from this video

  • @ThePeteGray
    @ThePeteGray 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. So, what's the fix for the TLR??

  • @thetoddperspective
    @thetoddperspective 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have ran hyper 7s for years and will be for the foreseeable future. I can run both front and rear either way.
    For me, hubs give me more steering and would be my preference except, I find balls to be more durable so I run them in front to assure that I finish the race.

  • @wrightrc3976
    @wrightrc3976 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good videos! & Ebuggy your products are next level

  • @ThatKoukiZ31
    @ThatKoukiZ31 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "There aren't that many designers that really know whats going on" Lmaooo you can say that again. Very interesting stuff JQ.

  • @philfernandez6306
    @philfernandez6306 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    JQ.. honestly, the thing that makes you different from other rc related youtubers is that you are honest and don't give a shit what other mfg will feel about your video. Other guys would say stuff to cover their asses... but you don't... which is an asset to your video. You would be like the "howard stern" of the rc youtube industry. BTW ... a request... since you are comparing buggies with other buggies ... can you do one that talks about the new Tekno and HB buggies. thanks for your time.

    • @invisiblespeedrc
      @invisiblespeedrc  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My lawyers do not enjoy my content. Watch this space...lol. I will never spend money on anything tekno. If someone sends me one I can give my opinion :-)

    • @philfernandez6306
      @philfernandez6306 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@invisiblespeedrc fuck lawyers. lol ...So you think Tekno buggies are not worth it? just curious.

    • @invisiblespeedrc
      @invisiblespeedrc  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@philfernandez6306 I just won't spend my money on them for personal reasons.

    • @LJTEAM0723
      @LJTEAM0723 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@philfernandez6306 go fishing through his videos and he explains why with Tekno 👍 It is a more than fair reason 🤘

    • @skyreadyrc5873
      @skyreadyrc5873 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LJTEAM0723 Link please?

  • @ashermorales8276
    @ashermorales8276 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The way the mugen handles fits my driving style so well. That’s why it’s the only chassis I drive 😂

  • @valentinhristov264
    @valentinhristov264 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Way to go man, finally some nice useful info here from someone who knows what he is talking about vs all the usual bs that’s floating around you tube .

    • @valentinhristov264
      @valentinhristov264 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey man I just uploaded a video about rearranging the electronics on my xray xb8e, I tried to share my idea wich is really nothing new but anyway will you go to my channel and take a look it’s only one video for xray, I am new to the hobby but I use to race cars and set balance correct... let me know what you think

  • @cybron7089
    @cybron7089 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great content. Thank you so much.

  • @brianlackie5093
    @brianlackie5093 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's mostly driving. I'm a very nervous driving and u run the slowest laps but I fast driver can drive my car and be the fastest driver on the track, with my car and I'm slow

  • @mr.h.5205
    @mr.h.5205 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoy you hard Work .
    Thanks

  • @artificialintelligence8388
    @artificialintelligence8388 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff. Thanks for this.

  • @levrone0075
    @levrone0075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is absolutely fucking brilliant information / tutorial. I've been wading through heaps of shite on the internet for 2 weeks and this is the only place i could find proper scientific answers.

  • @evandronobre7995
    @evandronobre7995 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm from Brazil, great explanation video

  • @richardpina7579
    @richardpina7579 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you talk about pivot ball I notice you group certain brands together except sworkz. Can you explain what makes sworkz different?
    Thanks

  • @Menta1989z
    @Menta1989z 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Supercool. Very clear, as other videos made by you.👍

  • @Statek63
    @Statek63 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wondering if this video was the catalyst that finally resulted with Kyosho designing the new (upcoming) IFW643 option. I'd guess that that was it.

  • @fenx42
    @fenx42 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome Video, Please make more!

  • @jonienglish3231
    @jonienglish3231 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i am still Running Mp7.5 kanai , mp777 sp2 , st-r and st-rr evo
    sold the mp6.5 international

  • @tonysands2837
    @tonysands2837 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your video bro thanks for letting me know what I really need to do an how to tune like a pro cheers Tony Australia 🇦🇺

  • @rccaraddict294
    @rccaraddict294 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome Info bro 😎

  • @davidsandate1522
    @davidsandate1522 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr Pink thinks this is a good video awesome information structure. Keep up the good work JQ, I'm a fan

  • @grallienpabloll762
    @grallienpabloll762 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for what you doing!

  • @janhellwig5513
    @janhellwig5513 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice explained. 👍🏻

  • @bobbyhaltiwanger5102
    @bobbyhaltiwanger5102 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Job !

  • @brucebartlett1950
    @brucebartlett1950 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good info helps been racing kyosho like Adam drake's buggy setup

  • @CraigAndres
    @CraigAndres 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant information! Personally i have ran a Sworkz buggie and always enjoyed how easy they are to drive and how well they seem to jump. What do you think of the latest Associated nitro RC8? I really enjoy watching all your videos and have learnt a huge amount that has really helped my racing. 👍

  • @clives681
    @clives681 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video JQ. I think you’re correct sadly, not many who actually know what they are designing - industry full of racing point sadly.

  • @mikeblythe4398
    @mikeblythe4398 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good info in this video.

  • @MX-CO
    @MX-CO 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whats the best 1/10 scale 2wd for 2024?

  • @ach-rc2221
    @ach-rc2221 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very useful video, as I am interested to buy a Mayako, what kind of behavior we have to expect from your car ? Close to kiosho or mugen ? I run mainly on soil dusty track with hole in my regional race tracks. Thank you.

  •  2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I guess that a car with zero scrub radius in front and no offset in the rear would be great on paper, but awfull on track because at each time would have one kind of reaction, because gaps, and flex, would get the geometry in a random tendence according to the circunstances.

    • @invisiblespeedrc
      @invisiblespeedrc  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes something like that. Let's say that determining for the car how you want it to react, without going too far, seems to be better.

  • @marcosphoto-
    @marcosphoto- 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry, also....seems to me these 2 videos support steering both chassis designs both the same way - coasting through the apex and power on exit. So, doesn't seem there really is much difference. If anything, seems the C-hub can be powered on earlier in the corner than the ball - but you seem to indicate C-hub design drivers wait until after the apex which is where I see a contradiction.