3d printing is a hobby in itself, and can incur costs that far exceed one of the resin options from FW. I don't mind proxies, alternative sculpts, or custom minis, and I LOVE kit-bashing and converting. However, I've owned 3 (2 resin and 1 filament) printers and all have failed me in different ways. Between purchasing the printers, consumables, and tools, I could have purchased 2 new armies (or 'almost' a Warlord Titan...) Now, I may just have horrible luck with technology and dice rolls, but I'm not the only one, and that means printers still need to advance a bit more before mass acceptance.
I feel printing is fine as proxy, there is always an intended use case scenario for each piece, and there are different settings where 3d printed models are appropriate. I can't support the distribution methods, fomo, scalpers, drip feed of releases, when there are more producers of models than there ever has been before. I will most likely always keep up to date with the current rule sets and still more than likely buy games workshop products, but I've reached a point in my hobby experience where I don't need to buy a lot to be able to field 2000 points of legitimate games workshop models. I'm going to explore more options, and field other units that I'm interested in trying out before I purchase them, and work on older hobby projects that I've always wanted to work on and because of limited supply of models, I'm able to just print more of what I'm interested in putting together. I find more enjoyment from the hobby as a second hand hobbyist and to be able to take older out of print models and give them new life with 3d printing, reusing older models and cutting down on wasted opportunities, I get to hobby how I want.
3D printing is definitely part of the reason GW is trying to diversify the IP beyond tabletop gaming, aside from all the untapped money being left on the table. They must realise that at some point, someone will produce a 'dumb' 3D printer with all the positives and none of the drawbacks that keep the hobby from truly going mainstream. At that point no one is going to be willing to pay £35 - £45 for a box of plastic. Not when they could print out an entire army for the same price in resin. This is where GW's fixation on profit ahead community good will is going to very much bite them in the arse. But, again, I think they know that and that's why they're racing against time to monetise the IP outside of the hobby.
Can't get enough proxies! A retail FirePrism hasn't been available since the launch of 10th and they can get F...if they think I'm paying above RRP on ebay.
I have been playing since RT. Every time i hear "Warhammer is an expisive hobby" I cry. It wasnt always that way. You walk in to a story and be given a free codex or 40%.
I do understand 3D printing, there’s things you just cannot get for love or money, or you can get for enough money you could get a good % of an army from. I like having the real deal, I like everything being right and correct but when that is impossible people are like water, chose the path of least resistance to get what they want and another printer gets sold. Hell, my demons of malice don’t exist but if I wanted them, I’d have to hire someone to design and print but would be faster then hoping GW will make it for me
10000% we should be printing more. GW are super overpriced, if they were sensibly priced they'd fail as a business due to how inefficient they are as a business.
If you want to 3d print go for it and have fun, but don't then act like you give a damn about GW employees because your actions are having a direct negative effect on them.
3d printing is a hobby in itself, and can incur costs that far exceed one of the resin options from FW. I don't mind proxies, alternative sculpts, or custom minis, and I LOVE kit-bashing and converting. However, I've owned 3 (2 resin and 1 filament) printers and all have failed me in different ways. Between purchasing the printers, consumables, and tools, I could have purchased 2 new armies (or 'almost' a Warlord Titan...) Now, I may just have horrible luck with technology and dice rolls, but I'm not the only one, and that means printers still need to advance a bit more before mass acceptance.
Great input from someone who's explored the path! Thanks Badger
I feel printing is fine as proxy, there is always an intended use case scenario for each piece, and there are different settings where 3d printed models are appropriate. I can't support the distribution methods, fomo, scalpers, drip feed of releases, when there are more producers of models than there ever has been before. I will most likely always keep up to date with the current rule sets and still more than likely buy games workshop products, but I've reached a point in my hobby experience where I don't need to buy a lot to be able to field 2000 points of legitimate games workshop models.
I'm going to explore more options, and field other units that I'm interested in trying out before I purchase them, and work on older hobby projects that I've always wanted to work on and because of limited supply of models, I'm able to just print more of what I'm interested in putting together. I find more enjoyment from the hobby as a second hand hobbyist and to be able to take older out of print models and give them new life with 3d printing, reusing older models and cutting down on wasted opportunities, I get to hobby how I want.
3D printing is definitely part of the reason GW is trying to diversify the IP beyond tabletop gaming, aside from all the untapped money being left on the table. They must realise that at some point, someone will produce a 'dumb' 3D printer with all the positives and none of the drawbacks that keep the hobby from truly going mainstream. At that point no one is going to be willing to pay £35 - £45 for a box of plastic. Not when they could print out an entire army for the same price in resin. This is where GW's fixation on profit ahead community good will is going to very much bite them in the arse. But, again, I think they know that and that's why they're racing against time to monetise the IP outside of the hobby.
Can't get enough proxies! A retail FirePrism hasn't been available since the launch of 10th and they can get F...if they think I'm paying above RRP on ebay.
I have been playing since RT. Every time i hear "Warhammer is an expisive hobby" I cry. It wasnt always that way. You walk in to a story and be given a free codex or 40%.
I do understand 3D printing, there’s things you just cannot get for love or money, or you can get for enough money you could get a good % of an army from.
I like having the real deal, I like everything being right and correct but when that is impossible people are like water, chose the path of least resistance to get what they want and another printer gets sold.
Hell, my demons of malice don’t exist but if I wanted them, I’d have to hire someone to design and print but would be faster then hoping GW will make it for me
10000% we should be printing more. GW are super overpriced, if they were sensibly priced they'd fail as a business due to how inefficient they are as a business.
A 3D printer is a small price to pay for heresy...
small? A good printer, curing station, tools, STLs etc etc the cost of all that is two decent GW armies.
I see you didn't catch the joke 😅
If you want to 3d print go for it and have fun, but don't then act like you give a damn about GW employees because your actions are having a direct negative effect on them.