The 5010, 5020 and 6030's were the best tractors built from the late 60's and 70's Peroid!!!! Huge lugging Horsepower and such heavy, heavy front ends!!!! My family still has a 5010, the thing just won't quit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yes that is such a beautiful sound I love the sound of Detroit power my grandfather had an oliver from the late 50s that had a 671 Detroit I still use it today and to my knowledge it has never yet been overhauled in the 50 years we have had it
Man I'm a Ford Tractor fan but I don't care, this thing is awsome, I can see why He is wearing head phones. That constant noise level wouyld give you a head ache and put you to sleep. Love the sound of that power.
the fucking video is rated 5 star because that deere would pull the ass off any zetor shit you throw at it. That is one of the best tractors ever made, with one of the best diesels ever made.
@65JD5010 Back in those days the 5010, 5020, and 6030 were actually referred to as dogs even by Deere men. My neighbor had a 5020 that he blew the engine up on and he ripped the front axle right off of it once. My old 220 Allis I used to have would walk circles around it. That was back in the 70's.
We had neighbors that had the 318 Detroit and the vibration from the engine was nasty. We repowered as 5020 with a 903 Cummins (320 hp) and pulled the doors off the 318 (8V71) Had more torque but the vibration was still a killer with it as well.
That's fine, was just our experience We later stuck a 375hp Cat 1693TA in a 6030 that a guy dropped the engine in and we got cheap. Amazing engine and in the day, nothing EVER came close to touching it. Glad you had good luck with the 318.
They say you couldn't listen to that all day. I was sad when your vid stopped. If I lived closer I'd come and plough you paddock for nothing just to get more of it. Lovely and crisp on the governor. But then, with that sort of power, is there any wonder? At least you know you won't wreck the rear end even with an 8/71. Sweet as!
Not as bad as they would, if they lived directly from where my brother built up the air on his Freightliner, that had an 8v-92 Detroit. He used to piss me off at times with it. What is the real difference between this, and a Cummins or Cat with straight pipes on it?
How big of a fuel tank do you have and how long does it take to burn through it? We had a 4620 and whenever we pulled with it, we couldn't fill it up fast enough!
He could do something weird like putting some mufflers on it. Those Detroit 8V-71's with no turbos are really loud. I have one in my bus, but with turbo and a big turbo muffler
It's not an 8V53, it;s an 8V71, and this baby has BALLS! It reminds me of a '73 GMC short-nosed tandem dump truck I drove whenI was just 17 that our neighbor had, hauling concrete (18 tons average a load) to the landfill, and this yahoo who had Cat tattooed on his underpants had a new (at the time) Peterbilt 357 with a hopped-up 4-and-a-quarter Cat he CALIMED made nearly 600 HP, and asked me why I wanted to drive "That chain-saw engine powered cave-tool" and I replied "because I can't stand 4-stroke diesels, and barely tolerate 4-stroke gas engines, as they all suck, and by the way, I also HATE with a PASSION anything Cat ever made, ever WILL make, especially their worthless 4-stroke diesels that fall apart--like your engine that has a ZINC casting as a timing gear cover--and they literally rot off the engines in a year, IF that hunk of 4-joke SHIT doesn't blow a head gasket or the bottom-end before that, is that a good enough answer?" He said "It's 8 degrees F. this morning, you have NO block heater on that antique, so have fun starting it! I made sure it was in neutral, stood alongside it, reached up and twisted the key and hit the starter button, and in Detroit fashion, she went rrrrrrrrrruuf! and was idling! NO stupid skipping and backfiring like a 4 stroke does, NO grey smoke like a 4 stroke does--it just started! That Cat had a block heater, thrned over for 65 seconds before it fired, skiped and popped, stalled 4 times, and nearly didn't start as it flooded out on the last start attempt, and took over 3 minutes before it really ran decent and wasn't smoking grey! Embarrassment number 1 for "Cat-boy"! We got loaded up, with pretty much the same weight on each truck and off we went. I let him go first, and I drove easy, to make him think it has no balls (tach never went above 1400) 'till we started up the long, nasty hill leading up to the dump, about a half mile long, and he hit it at 55, but started down shifting immediately as he started up, I kept the same gear. I stayed behind him 'till he really started working for it, then I pulled into the regular lane, out of the "slow truck lnane", kicked my little "318" DD in the ass, and started up-shifting and passed him at 45, topped the hill at 65! With NO black smoke as that Cat hunk of 4-stroke crap was doing profusely, and no having to top the hill at 25 in granny like he had to--this went on load after load, and I actually not only got to the dump some 8 minutes ahead of him, but after lunch I managed to do 2 loads to one of his! He used up about 3/4 of the fuel in both saddle tanks, same size as mine, in one 12 hour day, I used less than half! And everybody LOVED the sound of that little "318" and HATED the roar and the going thru the gears sound of the cat that I likened to "the sound of a seriously injured cow bloating repeatedly for help", which is the only analogy I could use to describe the awful sound of that Cat! We nick-named his truck the "injured cow" and mine the "buzzin' Cat killer" and this dude finally admitted than 2 stroke diesels are superior to 4 strokes! O--and 2 weeks later--guess what? lots of grey smoke, knocking and the unmistakeable smell of coolant--YEP--that damned Cat coundn't hold up to the extra boost, fuel, and heat from hot-rodding it, and blew a head gasket, grooved the block and cleeves betweem 3 and 4 cylinders, and cracked the head! Coolant got in the oil and seized the ceank at a center main as well! So much for "4 strokes are better!" All I had to do was maintain my oil level (and no it didn't use much at all!), check my other fluids, and fuel 'er up! I looked forward to every 12-hour day in bitter cold weather of pure V-8 Detroit "stack music" and the awesome driveability of these amazing engines! YEAH!!! Great memories!
lots better than the 80-100 horse on before.. you could deff pull lots more if u could get it heavy enough.. the new big john deere row crops bearly push 315, but they got more lugging power
kdowning08, the turbo actually made them pull. Without a turbo they were dogs and either with or without a turbo they had plenty of engine troubles. That's why back in the day a 4020 would bring as much or probably more at an auction. Roday it's collectors that drive the price and not it's usefulness.
@woodman1241 i wouldnt go that far about the diesel... the tractor had one bad failing point in the 60s. the crank shaft was prone to break in the 5020 and the 6020. i wont even start on the failing points of the detroit..theres just too many to list..lmao
@TheTractormaster Zetor built a couple tractors that were re-baged as John Deeres. i forget the models involved but you can look it up. woodman1241 might have to eat his words. lol.
Had several 318's and yes they died in the hills. And in really strong winds. They wound up fast, but a 350 Cummins would walk away from them all day long. We went to the1693 425 Cat TA series for over the road and the mountains. The 318's were great in the upper midwest as the guys could beat them to death and all they did was run better. 411 gears, 13 speed and 20 inch rubber back then too.
Sounds more like a 71 than a 53. Deeper note and less revs. This one sounds no faster than 1500 revs if that. Besides, I doubt a regular 8v53 would put out 318hp without some substantial tweaking.
@ACD19farmboy can't find it now... idk why but some guy was saying that a zetor could outpull that deere- zetor is a czech manufactured tractor- that explain somethin? haha..
This one seems to defy the old definition of a Detroit Diesel---" A mechanical devise that consumes diesel to produce noise" haha--looks like this one can plow besides all the noise!!
@kdowning08 Without the turbo though they weren't very powerful. Hence the doggy reputation. Too much weight and that engine wasn't responsive until you put a turbo on it. I think the power train itself could handle a lot more power but the 531 could not. At least not very well.
Beautiful restoration and demonstration. But it's not pulling a very big implement. And this tillage step is wasteful - get a No-Till System - Saves time - Saves Fuel!
so... what are you saying? that the deeres in this area with close to 8000 on them with no rebuild, the several with 20000+ with three rebuilds are junk? one has 17000 on it, and case ih fans beat the shit out of it every day.
The 5010, 5020 and 6030's were the best tractors built from the late 60's and 70's Peroid!!!! Huge lugging Horsepower and such heavy, heavy front ends!!!! My family still has a 5010, the thing just won't quit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yes that is such a beautiful sound I love the sound of Detroit power
my grandfather had an oliver from the late 50s that had a 671 Detroit
I still use it today and to my knowledge it has never yet been overhauled in the 50 years we have had it
Man I'm a Ford Tractor fan but I don't care, this thing is awsome, I can see why He is wearing head phones. That constant noise level wouyld give you a head ache and put you to sleep. Love the sound of that power.
We had a 318 conversion when I was a kid.On a still evening you could hear it 2 miles away with the straight pipes.Nice to hear one sing again!!
the fucking video is rated 5 star because that deere would pull the ass off any zetor shit you throw at it. That is one of the best tractors ever made, with one of the best diesels ever made.
At least everyone in the county knows when you finish up for the day! lol
And he will be deaf by lunchtime...:}}-
I see that he is wearing ear protection
With the way they are built the 5010,5020 and the 6030s have passed the test of time
love the old 5020s all the way up 6030s an 7520s great tractor. AMERICAN STEEL. ARRRRRR!!!!!
I would drive that to work,church,store,bar,girls house, all dam day long. LOVE the sound and Love the pipes. And It's a creaming detroit :) :)
Nice tractor,great sound,I like the chrome stacks. I have a 1972 4620 with a chrome strait pipe.
Unless you're enclosed in a cab, hearing protection is always a must. Kudos.
That JD is really cruising along! =)
Sounds great...at first. Could you imagine hearing that all day, every day? I would install a cab!
Man do I love that sound
Hearing protection is GOOD!
restoration exceptional and very very power ful machine
That machine is awesome!
Damn. That tractor's no joke!
@65JD5010 Back in those days the 5010, 5020, and 6030 were actually referred to as dogs even by Deere men. My neighbor had a 5020 that he blew the engine up on and he ripped the front axle right off of it once. My old 220 Allis I used to have would walk circles around it. That was back in the 70's.
We had neighbors that had the 318 Detroit and the vibration from the engine was nasty. We repowered as 5020 with a 903 Cummins (320 hp) and pulled the doors off the 318 (8V71) Had more torque but the vibration was still a killer with it as well.
had a 903 cummins and a v8 detroit. the v8 detroit would walk all over that 903
That's fine, was just our experience We later stuck a 375hp Cat 1693TA in a 6030 that a guy dropped the engine in and we got cheap. Amazing engine and in the day, nothing EVER came close to touching it.
Glad you had good luck with the 318.
i love that growel from that sweet ass sounding detroit -she ain't screaming yet!!!!:0 full revs is the recipie of the day
Did Kinze include a pair of earmuffs when they converted them ?
We have a 5020 put in a turbo and a intercooler also got a straight pipe. Really loud we have the row crop one with flat top fenders
You're playing my favorite song
shes got a detroit! love it!
They say you couldn't listen to that all day. I was sad when your vid stopped. If I lived closer I'd come and plough you paddock for nothing just to get more of it. Lovely and crisp on the governor. But then, with that sort of power, is there any wonder? At least you know you won't wreck the rear end even with an 8/71. Sweet as!
what all did u needt to swap the engine.
Holy shit dude awesome job what engine u runnin in that thing now?
Can you tell me if the ear protection comes standard with those chrome pipes or is that an option you have to by separate?
i love the way detroit motors scream
The oil drippings will help keep the weeds in check.
Bet the neighbors hate him in the morings
Not as bad as they would, if they lived directly from where my brother built up the air on his Freightliner, that had an 8v-92 Detroit. He used to piss me off at times with it. What is the real difference between this, and a Cummins or Cat with straight pipes on it?
How big of a fuel tank do you have and how long does it take to burn through it? We had a 4620 and whenever we pulled with it, we couldn't fill it up fast enough!
He could do something weird like putting some mufflers on it. Those Detroit 8V-71's with no turbos are really loud. I have one in my bus, but with turbo and a big turbo muffler
This is a 5020 standard.Jim MacFaden of Sharon Springs,NY had a 5020 row crop like this one he wanted $25 large for in the past 6 years.
was this a Kinze conversion? Kinze Mfg. got their start doing repower on Deere using Detroits. Nice restoration!
I love those Detrots
It's not an 8V53, it;s an 8V71, and this baby has BALLS! It reminds me of a '73 GMC short-nosed tandem dump truck I drove whenI was just 17 that our neighbor had, hauling concrete (18 tons average a load) to the landfill, and this yahoo who had Cat tattooed on his underpants had a new (at the time) Peterbilt 357 with a hopped-up 4-and-a-quarter Cat he CALIMED made nearly 600 HP, and asked me why I wanted to drive "That chain-saw engine powered cave-tool" and I replied "because I can't stand 4-stroke diesels, and barely tolerate 4-stroke gas engines, as they all suck, and by the way, I also HATE with a PASSION anything Cat ever made, ever WILL make, especially their worthless 4-stroke diesels that fall apart--like your engine that has a ZINC casting as a timing gear cover--and they literally rot off the engines in a year, IF that hunk of 4-joke SHIT doesn't blow a head gasket or the bottom-end before that, is that a good enough answer?" He said "It's 8 degrees F. this morning, you have NO block heater on that antique, so have fun starting it! I made sure it was in neutral, stood alongside it, reached up and twisted the key and hit the starter button, and in Detroit fashion, she went rrrrrrrrrruuf! and was idling! NO stupid skipping and backfiring like a 4 stroke does, NO grey smoke like a 4 stroke does--it just started! That Cat had a block heater, thrned over for 65 seconds before it fired, skiped and popped, stalled 4 times, and nearly didn't start as it flooded out on the last start attempt, and took over 3 minutes before it really ran decent and wasn't smoking grey! Embarrassment number 1 for "Cat-boy"! We got loaded up, with pretty much the same weight on each truck and off we went. I let him go first, and I drove easy, to make him think it has no balls (tach never went above 1400) 'till we started up the long, nasty hill leading up to the dump, about a half mile long, and he hit it at 55, but started down shifting immediately as he started up, I kept the same gear. I stayed behind him 'till he really started working for it, then I pulled into the regular lane, out of the "slow truck lnane", kicked my little "318" DD in the ass, and started up-shifting and passed him at 45, topped the hill at 65! With NO black smoke as that Cat hunk of 4-stroke crap was doing profusely, and no having to top the hill at 25 in granny like he had to--this went on load after load, and I actually not only got to the dump some 8 minutes ahead of him, but after lunch I managed to do 2 loads to one of his! He used up about 3/4 of the fuel in both saddle tanks, same size as mine, in one 12 hour day, I used less than half! And everybody LOVED the sound of that little "318" and HATED the roar and the going thru the gears sound of the cat that I likened to "the sound of a seriously injured cow bloating repeatedly for help", which is the only analogy I could use to describe the awful sound of that Cat! We nick-named his truck the "injured cow" and mine the "buzzin' Cat killer" and this dude finally admitted than 2 stroke diesels are superior to 4 strokes! O--and 2 weeks later--guess what? lots of grey smoke, knocking and the unmistakeable smell of coolant--YEP--that damned Cat coundn't hold up to the extra boost, fuel, and heat from hot-rodding it, and blew a head gasket, grooved the block and cleeves betweem 3 and 4 cylinders, and cracked the head! Coolant got in the oil and seized the ceank at a center main as well! So much for "4 strokes are better!" All I had to do was maintain my oil level (and no it didn't use much at all!), check my other fluids, and fuel 'er up! I looked forward to every 12-hour day in bitter cold weather of pure V-8 Detroit "stack music" and the awesome driveability of these amazing engines! YEAH!!! Great memories!
Are you done yet? This 58 year old Kentuckian says "PISS ON DETROIT DIESELS "...
in the 5020 was the j.d,s in line 6cy.better?and wasnt the g.m,used in over seas sales?
TIMOTHY.BURKE LINES not that particular 6 cylinder. That’s why so many were repowered
Saw a 1969 5020 about 6 weeks ago that has a Caterpillar 3208 in it.
Was this tractor at the Iowa State Fair?
if i asked this John deere, wht the ya think off the tiller? the answer would be, what tiller?
@Slog58 its eather a 6v72 or 6v92 detroit 2 stroke diesel
is that a 6v-71?
Put some duals on that bad boy!
lots better than the 80-100 horse on before.. you could deff pull lots more if u could get it heavy enough.. the new big john deere row crops bearly push 315, but they got more lugging power
kdowning08, the turbo actually made them pull. Without a turbo they were dogs and either with or without a turbo they had plenty of engine troubles. That's why back in the day a 4020 would bring as much or probably more at an auction. Roday it's collectors that drive the price and not it's usefulness.
Where is this at? What state?
sounds like a two stroke?:)
@woodman1241 i wouldnt go that far about the diesel... the tractor had one bad failing point in the 60s. the crank shaft was prone to break in the 5020 and the 6020. i wont even start on the failing points of the detroit..theres just too many to list..lmao
I guess his neighbours know when he's plowing or harvesting his fields; even the ones several miles away
That ol Detroit doesn't even realize there's a disk behind it.
awesome!!!
Yea,,I can hear that 8V-71 Detroit anywhere.
Really Stand's Out.
@TheTractormaster Zetor built a couple tractors that were re-baged as John Deeres. i forget the models involved but you can look it up. woodman1241 might have to eat his words. lol.
Notice the ear protection.
respect.
bush hogging the fodder would have realy helped out before working the ground. but tractor is awesome.
Yes, those were good tractors. My dad had a 4010, I think it was a 1963 model.
Detroit operators manual, and parts books say the 8V-71 and 8V-53 are the same size.
8v71 was a flat road engine in a truck......died on a hill.
Richard Lewis well yea... everything died on hills back then... a detriot is a lot of motor...
Had several 318's and yes they died in the hills. And in really strong winds. They wound up fast, but a 350 Cummins would walk away from them all day long. We went to the1693 425 Cat TA series for over the road and the mountains. The 318's were great in the upper midwest as the guys could beat them to death and all they did was run better. 411 gears, 13 speed and 20 inch rubber back then too.
lol I've driven cats cummins paccar maxidaine detroit etc by far the best would be detroit and the maxidaine they would out pull the rest.
@carmelnicole i agree
that is bad ass!
i think my stock 5020 would pull that in fith gear pretty eassy maby 6 nice work on it though
Eastern Iowa. I believe Jones county.
Sounds more like a 71 than a 53. Deeper note and less revs. This one sounds no faster than 1500 revs if that. Besides, I doubt a regular 8v53 would put out 318hp without some substantial tweaking.
dont you mean 3-71?
kls1724 that’s definitely an 8v71
kls1724 oh wait you were replying to the guy about the Oliver. Neeeeevermind
@ACD19farmboy can't find it now... idk why but some guy was saying that a zetor could outpull that deere- zetor is a czech manufactured tractor- that explain somethin? haha..
@ACD19farmboy and czech is a country somewhere in Europe where they are made...
This one seems to defy the old definition of a Detroit Diesel---" A mechanical devise that consumes diesel to produce noise" haha--looks like this one can plow besides all the noise!!
It looks like it already has mufflers. Good luck getting that Detroit to be quiet!
cool have heard of a couple guys west of me putting in 3208 cats but not a screaming oil leak lol .....run them like you hate them..
If it's a normal Kinze Conversion, it's probably a 8V-53.
@ACD19farmboy that's exactly my point lol... they are kinda big in europe I guess? but ya Deere vs. zetor? lol....
@nonoos153 it was very common for people to do this on the 5020s back in the day cuz there motor is junk for poniess
That too
@kdowning08 Without the turbo though they weren't very powerful. Hence the doggy reputation. Too much weight and that engine wasn't responsive until you put a turbo on it. I think the power train itself could handle a lot more power but the 531 could not. At least not very well.
i reckon ur right, looks too small for a 8V71.
@TheTractormaster zetor lol that still make them things
yea i like the 531 grunt better than the detroit grunt
The 531 cid is much quieter then the Detroit Diesel
How would you like to have to listen to that fucking thing all day....would be horrible.
I like my red power, but damn, I like this too!
That is a noisy old beast!!
sweeeeeet!!!
@woodman1241
true true but zetor aint shity its also good i have one and never had a problem whit it
Beautiful restoration and demonstration. But it's not pulling a very big implement. And this tillage step is wasteful - get a No-Till System - Saves time - Saves Fuel!
Great tractor by surpasses the legal dB level. Haha
fuck dB levels.
Lee, why don't you put some fuckin mufflers on this thing??
@DammitDrag Hilarious!
ahhhh detriot diesel.
so... what are you saying? that the deeres in this area with close to 8000 on them with no rebuild, the several with 20000+ with three rebuilds are junk? one has 17000 on it, and case ih fans beat the shit out of it every day.
Bad sond. Where is the john deere engine.
it prob is a 2 stroke
mmm detroit diesel
@kyler309 naw
cause its a 5020!!!!
@woodman1241 agree with you ,zetor is the worst shit ever
Come on, quit babying that thing. Open that thing up and make it talk!
Da hört sich ja mein Rasentraktor besser an!
I can
Frcfv very 5musica
Banda angus a
Nothing sounds worse than a stinking Detroit Diesel. Stick a 6030 engine in it before your neighbors shoot you!!!
Byron Cutshaw if that was a repower done in the 60s and 70s (which it probably was,) it’s worth quite a bit of money the way it is