Please don’t neglect Fred Hampton pushing those brothers to be politically educated, and not to be used as tools of oppression against their own people
White Cloud Had a Beautiful Strong Aura and Presence about Himself.... He Lived Down The Street and It is hard to explain Him. You either Feared Him or Loved Him....A Legend To This Day!!
A legend how, I knew white cloud and he died how he lived. He seemed to have loved kids because I remember going to his pool hall playing pool and he looked out for us. Truth be told he carried out a lot of hits as well and that is a fact.
He’s a legend let no one take your opinion away no matter how they lived…I myself know he was about his community regardless of how he had to survive on the streets💯
Much respect and well put together truth and documented history I was born and raised in stateway gardens so I definitely understood everything you was talkin about
State Way had the Del Vikings back in my day in the 1960's Just saying. There was also the Tray - Five Del Vikings and Anderson Del - Vikings around 36 and Giles
Im not involved in gangs but my whole family G's...I just love the fact that when these organizations were created it was during a time when our people had to survive and the fact that all nations and organizations created these large political organizations to better us much love to them all and i wish we as a people would go back to more of that and for all that say people from the south country and slow remember all these brothas came from the south much love to all these soldiers
FROM CHICAGO IL, ENGLEWOOD LEGENDS, NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SOUTH, OUR PARENTS ARE FROM THE SOUTH, 90% OF BLACK PEOPLE IN CHICAGO MIGRATED FROM MISSISSIPPI, BECAUSE THEY FOUGHT BACK AGAINST THE KKK RACIST IN THE SOUTH✅ WHY DIDN'T THEY START THE BLACK STREET ORGANIZATIONS IN THE SOUTH THEN? COULDN'T, CAN'T, AINT, CHICAGO IS OUR HOME AND MOTIVATION, BLACKS IN CHICAGO ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN OTHERS BLACKS IN AMERIKKA ✅
WhitecCloud’s, Mother was a friend of my Aunt, they used to share groceries his stepdad was black, he was an auto mechanic. They were from MS. I seen White cloud most days he knew how to wear his brim. Straight banger. 59th & Aberdeen. Hoover was the originator of the Supreme Gangsters, The High Supreme Gangsters were under the Supreme Gangsters High 12. LH was at the family’s crib by the Church most days. It used to be about Just throwing hands and block parties in the beginning. Then the mob dropped off heroin & guns, and everything changed.
Can I ask you a question. Where you there? I was. I may have not known these brothers personally. Some I knew their family members. i ran with some of them. This was our neighborhood. But here's the thing. We need to know what the Bible has told us. We should not hate our brothers in our hearts. We should not kill. Therefore, we should have a love for our brothers but not a reverence. Why? Look at what is happening today. We are killing each other and putting unwanted fear in our communities. The Jeff Forts, Larry Hoovers, the David Barksdale, they lived by the code. These men were from the south side. They did what they did. However, the community came first. They respected the elderly. The women. And those that were not a part of that culture. These young guys do not have that integrity. i was a student. i had 5 brothers. But we were not in the culture and we were respected for what we were about. We were not made to fear because we rolled a different way. Take note young warriors. Community is first and foremost. If you destroy that. you destroy your people. And then have no heritage or culture. Is this not what we are seeing now.
.. the females of today's community have everything to do with the gang culture, there is no moral balance therefore there will be no boundaries in conflict 😞
Have you stopped to consider that all of the people you named are the reason why what is happening now is happening? They had no plans and no clue for the future generations. So, the future is now, and the chickens have come home to roost. These are the chickens that Jeff Fort, Lary Hoover, David Barksdale created. Sure, they had respect for elders. They were from a different era...an era when that was normal. The man took them out ...assassinated them (Fred Hampton) or imprisoned them.
@@DeeTheGreat-qr3bhPLEASE, NO UNITY SINCE THE PANTHERS ✔️ BLACK FAMILY DESTROYED 80% BORN OUT OF WEDLOCK RAISED BY SINGLE BLACK DYSFUNCTIONAL MOTHERS NOT A PRODUCTIVE MAN IN THE HOUSE IN FIFTY YEARS, NO BM NO STRUTURE, DISCIPLINE, FLOODED BY FOREIGNERS, GENTRIFICATION URBAN REMOVAL, GENOCIDE IS HERE, JEALOUSY,ENVY, MOTOR MOUTH, ALL FEMALE TRAITS, 🛑✔️
To clear things up my brothers and sisters of the struggle they were claiming black disciple at the same time they were claiming devil disciple and also basically the other type of disciples that was out there so to make a long story short it started out as they wanted to just be disciples and then of course the devil disciple came into play just to have a name that sounds more interogating than that of the white gangs because it was about being proud of your own race such as you had the black panthers and the black peace stone rangers and then as time went on other blocks in certain areas started adding there own names to the disciples plus other small gangs started merging with the disciples but yea when they all came together as a whole it was black disciple just to shorting the names of the other forms of disciples until King Larry came aboard and formed the BGDN along side with King David,Shorty Freeman,Don Dirkey,Boonie Black, Prince Old timer, Prince Tennessee, and many others!!!
49:41 You no how come he didn't let no one sit in the back of his car you never let no one sit in back of you he didn't trust no body brother try take you out that's how come you let no body sit behind you
The High Supreme Gangsters were Irving Green's branch. Ike Taylor and Larry Hoover were Supreme Gangsters. There was a difference. Ike said that himself.
Its always somebody on here arguing about the begining stage of the disciples nation its not about who was a G or B it was about being a disciple and representing your blackness and being better developed in our own community because it was a lot of racism the guy showing this video maynot have all the facts straight but the main point of the video was about being together as all as 1!!!
🛑 U KNOW WHO YOUR REAL ENEMY IS, STILL OPPRESSING, RED LINING, PRISON INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX PLANTATION TO PRISON, GENTRIFICATION, CANT BLAME THE OPPRESSED FOR STRUGGLING ✔️ WHO IS TO JUDGE? NOT 1
See G it's a lot of controversy over King David being a BD you know as the store goes that in 1968 on the the Corner of 68th and Green King David was a Devil Disciple and Larry was High Supreme Gangsta and they met had sit down at the Church and they came together as One BGD
Cloud control All B.D. In chgo. He was seen as the leader of BD by 99 percent of the members and was well respected by others. When shorty was released from Wisconsin,the members didn't really want to follow him, Cloud told them that they had to because he shorty was the leader
Very important to the blackstone movement u caught that . That was a edit flaw supposed to been Chief Bull then Chief Malik pic I truly appreciate that real talk I’m dropping one one chief bull real soon 🔜
Appreciate the feed back I was just connecting the dots so people can see the inspiration n what inspired him to create a umbrella of love for all tribes and what was going on round them times that had a impact on him thank u for your comment truly
I love your podcasts I did time in Statesville 10yrs,heard of lot a great things about the legend white Cloud you the only person that did a doc on this legend and your right he was very respected a very powerful and he brought a lot of money to the mob just as well as Shorty Freeman, jealous got white Cloud killed,rumers was out that he was about to talk over the mob,him and king Shorty just beat a murder case right before he got killed,also rumers was out that king Shorty slept with his wife andDon Durky .KT was Shorty right hand man,plus he had a Very powerful step brother name CP Charlie Parker.....White Cloud was a treat.....R.I.H legend
I know this videos is old at this point. I’m a BD from NLR, AR if you know then you know we were one of the first cities put on the books outside of the mother city of Chicago. Was White Cloud prominent in bringing Shorty and Hoover back together when Shorty had the BD’s join F.O.L.K.S ??? I hope you see this lol
White Cloud was killed by his own people, he would not have gotten into a car with anybody. Think about it. He was getting to powerful for some people to accept, true but sad. Someone saw him get into that car 😮😮
@@leadkeeprzproductionz3368Shorty was in jail out of town and call the hit from there KT put it together he was tricked into thinking they were picking up money from Harvey Illinois and on the way they killed him and left him in Harvey then KT became Number 2# under shorty
Black people can organize but the unity somehow can't remain sustaine because it can't out doo a more democratic organization where group can come to together vote right or wrong and stay intact for the bigger cause.
TP Folks @flaccosantanatv9277 the picture of the brother wearing sunglasses @3:52 with the lady with the afro is not Jeff Fort that is The Honorable Eugene "Bull" Hairston Founder of the Black Stone Rangers good brother
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I've never h. Ileard of a Spanish game that a-.
II never heard which finish game gang
okay
okay I need to get
I'm looking at a document documentary about Larry Hoover in the rest of the brothers
they were scared about uchicagoin Chicago in
White Cloud was a good dude. Respect all day
Please don’t neglect Fred Hampton pushing those brothers to be politically educated, and not to be used as tools of oppression against their own people
BPPC💯
Righteous!
ALL IS ONE !!!❤
PLENTY MUCH LOVE!!!❤
Free em all
White Cloud Had a Beautiful Strong Aura and Presence about Himself....
He Lived Down The Street and It is hard to explain Him. You either Feared Him or Loved Him....A Legend To This Day!!
A legend how, I knew white cloud and he died how he lived. He seemed to have loved kids because I remember going to his pool hall playing pool and he looked out for us. Truth be told he carried out a lot of hits as well and that is a fact.
He’s a legend let no one take your opinion away no matter how they lived…I myself know he was about his community regardless of how he had to survive on the streets💯
Much respect and well put together truth and documented history I was born and raised in stateway gardens so I definitely understood everything you was talkin about
State Way had the Del Vikings back in my day in the 1960's Just saying. There was also the Tray - Five Del Vikings and Anderson Del - Vikings around 36 and Giles
Im not involved in gangs but my whole family G's...I
just love the fact that when these organizations were created it was during a time when our people had to survive and the fact that all nations and organizations created these large political organizations to better us much love to them all and i wish we as a people would go back to more of that and for all that say people from the south country and slow remember all these brothas came from the south much love to all these soldiers
FROM CHICAGO IL, ENGLEWOOD LEGENDS, NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SOUTH, OUR PARENTS ARE FROM THE SOUTH, 90% OF BLACK PEOPLE IN CHICAGO MIGRATED FROM MISSISSIPPI, BECAUSE THEY FOUGHT BACK AGAINST THE KKK RACIST IN THE SOUTH✅ WHY DIDN'T THEY START THE BLACK STREET ORGANIZATIONS IN THE SOUTH THEN? COULDN'T, CAN'T, AINT, CHICAGO IS OUR HOME AND MOTIVATION, BLACKS IN CHICAGO ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN OTHERS BLACKS IN AMERIKKA ✅
RAISED IN CHICAGO THOUGH, WHOLE DIFFERENT BREED, CITY BUILT BY REAL GANGSTERS LITERALLY ITS IN OUR CULTURE ✔️
11 points LSD Stone love to the folks. All is well All is one
Great statement! ALL IS ONE
Pml to all sides worldwide
WhitecCloud’s, Mother was a friend of my Aunt, they used to share groceries his stepdad was black, he was an auto mechanic. They were from MS. I seen White cloud most days he knew how to wear his brim. Straight banger. 59th & Aberdeen.
Hoover was the originator of the Supreme Gangsters, The High Supreme Gangsters were under the Supreme Gangsters High 12. LH was at the family’s crib by the Church most days. It used to be about
Just throwing hands and block parties in the beginning. Then the mob dropped off heroin & guns, and everything changed.
White cloud was black 2 brother
Great video much respect My brother. Keeping our dream alive.
Salute David Barksdale and may he rest in Paradise... the vision shall live on as one💞💙🤍🖤💯
Facts King David Barksdale renamed the Devils Disciples the Black Disciple Nation in 1966 same year my nation itself began 💯
Don dirk named it Black disciple not king david
@@4nem485 No he didn't King David Barksdale renamed the Devils Disciples to the Black Disciple Nation in 1966 due to the Black Power Movement
Why else do you think the Black Gangster Disciple Nation was called what it was lol
BGD in 1969 I understand the difference 1966 BD pml
@@deemaniaco6760wrong
Can I ask you a question. Where you there? I was. I may have not known these brothers personally. Some I knew their family members. i ran with some of them. This was our neighborhood. But here's the thing. We need to know what the Bible has told us. We should not hate our brothers in our hearts. We should not kill. Therefore, we should have a love for our brothers but not a reverence. Why? Look at what is happening today. We are killing each other and putting unwanted fear in our communities. The Jeff Forts, Larry Hoovers, the David Barksdale, they lived by the code. These men were from the south side. They did what they did. However, the community came first. They respected the elderly. The women. And those that were not a part of that culture. These young guys do not have that integrity. i was a student. i had 5 brothers. But we were not in the culture and we were respected for what we were about. We were not made to fear because we rolled a different way. Take note young warriors. Community is first and foremost. If you destroy that. you destroy your people. And then have no heritage or culture. Is this not what we are seeing now.
.. the females of today's community have everything to do with the gang culture, there is no moral balance therefore there will be no boundaries in conflict 😞
Have you stopped to consider that all of the people you named are the reason why what is happening now is happening? They had no plans and no clue for the future generations. So, the future is now, and the chickens have come home to roost. These are the chickens that Jeff Fort, Lary Hoover, David Barksdale created. Sure, they had respect for elders. They were from a different era...an era when that was normal. The man took them out ...assassinated them (Fred Hampton) or imprisoned them.
Larry brought the Gs from Inglewood and Floyd brought the Gs from the hundreds when they became one it was done
BIG OL' G...PLENTY MUCH!!!❤
How gangs go from building the community to what you see in 2023? Cointelpro....We at war....
..👍
True
We at War with ourselves these days
@@DeeTheGreat-qr3bhPLEASE, NO UNITY SINCE THE PANTHERS ✔️ BLACK FAMILY DESTROYED 80% BORN OUT OF WEDLOCK RAISED BY SINGLE BLACK DYSFUNCTIONAL MOTHERS NOT A PRODUCTIVE MAN IN THE HOUSE IN FIFTY YEARS, NO BM NO STRUTURE, DISCIPLINE, FLOODED BY FOREIGNERS, GENTRIFICATION URBAN REMOVAL, GENOCIDE IS HERE, JEALOUSY,ENVY, MOTOR MOUTH, ALL FEMALE TRAITS, 🛑✔️
@@DeeTheGreat-qr3bhNO WE NO UNITY🛑
White definitely had Hoover’s blessings because I thought he was a BM for the GD’s but now I see thanks
To clear things up my brothers and sisters of the struggle they were claiming black disciple at the same time they were claiming devil disciple and also basically the other type of disciples that was out there so to make a long story short it started out as they wanted to just be disciples and then of course the devil disciple came into play just to have a name that sounds more interogating than that of the white gangs because it was about being proud of your own race such as you had the black panthers and the black peace stone rangers and then as time went on other blocks in certain areas started adding there own names to the disciples plus other small gangs started merging with the disciples but yea when they all came together as a whole it was black disciple just to shorting the names of the other forms of disciples until King Larry came aboard and formed the BGDN along side with King David,Shorty Freeman,Don Dirkey,Boonie Black, Prince Old timer, Prince Tennessee, and many others!!!
Boss Pimp Disciples 2-16-4
SCYPO!!!❤
It’s was Black King Cobras 1st.
Your telling how it was there were different branches of disciple ashay 43 disciple different second you no your history 😅
49:41 You no how come he didn't let no one sit in the back of his car you never let no one sit in back of you he didn't trust no body brother try take you out that's how come you let no body sit behind you
Brother, I did not know gangs had business ownership. I pray you continue to keep messaging the people with this history and information.
The High Supreme Gangsters were Irving Green's branch. Ike Taylor and Larry Hoover were Supreme Gangsters. There was a difference. Ike said that himself.
Ike and Old Timer still alive. As are others who have told the true story
I just got off the phone with Ike yesterday
Interview coming
I'll try to catch up with Old Timer and get a number on him. Highsmith works with Pastor Corey Brooks
@@Kboogie36OT still kicking it a walking history book fo sho
Damn good video, well put together, awesome narration.
#RESPECT from Detroit 💯
White cloud most likely was from MS also...Most of them guys was from DA SIP and the others from somewhere else in the south.
Starkville Mississippi
Its always somebody on here arguing about the begining stage of the disciples nation its not about who was a G or B it was about being a disciple and representing your blackness and being better developed in our own community because it was a lot of racism the guy showing this video maynot have all the facts straight but the main point of the video was about being together as all as 1!!!
Facts they keep worrying about the first name when it's about the last name disciples
@@Badnews6312 FACTS!!!
A LOT OF AGENT PROVOCATEURS OUT HERE, THEY COME TO SEW DIVISION AND CHAOS, THEY WILL NOT SPEAK ON ALL IS ONE OR UNITY✅ DIVIDED WE FALL✅
BECAUSE DISCIPLES STARTED THE WAR WITH THE GANGSTERS PLUS LONGSTREET SHOT CHEIF SO KNOCK IT OFF
Love your documentary my brother keeps it up my brother
We are stronger together 16
As one king David said it must be done!!!
Fred Hampton Sr. Was going to bring everyone together. Shame he got assassinated.
Nah he tried to it was going happen
It wasn't going to happen. 60s was the years of assassination and war on Black leadership
Rest in Paradise God bless your soul forever 🏆🙏🏿❤💙🖤🤍
Like how you do that red in there with that blue and that black 🤍🖤 SOULPOWER
My Father Was Friends With Whitecloud This Is Crazy
standupman rip king david barksdale free MR LARRY HOOVER
I am part of the struggle and Organization
@derrichomorris6265 hit my inbox on Facebook Flacco Santana
KEEP SWINGING FAM ✔️ G1
Gots to interview james high smith
In the working real talk
I am real happy to hear he is still amongst us... waiting on the interview
Just found your channel today and love your work and what you have going
Thank u I have some very powerful documentary dropping
Great content
Thank you
Why do we as people , idolize the very people that brought death and destruction to the very community that they claim to protect and support ?
Exactly.
🛑 U KNOW WHO YOUR REAL ENEMY IS, STILL OPPRESSING, RED LINING, PRISON INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX PLANTATION TO PRISON, GENTRIFICATION, CANT BLAME THE OPPRESSED FOR STRUGGLING ✔️ WHO IS TO JUDGE? NOT 1
What a dumb response @@nathanielrichardson9817
God job broski
See G it's a lot of controversy over King David being a BD you know as the store goes that in 1968 on the the Corner of 68th and Green King David was a Devil Disciple and Larry was High Supreme Gangsta and they met had sit down at the Church and they came together as One BGD
The Northern cities are full of people from the south - Mississippi, Alabama, or some of the states west of the Mississippi River.
Salute to our B.O.S FROM ALL WALK OF LIFE AND THANKS FOR PROTECTING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'S 🙏 🙌 💙💞🙏☝️🤲🦾
This is sloppy work bro if you rep the crib the presentation gotta be more sharp
💯💯💯💯💯💯
This my uncle 💯✍🏿
What was the color of that dorag king david had on in the picture wat year that was
What rank did white cloud have?
Cloud control All B.D. In chgo. He was seen as the leader of BD by 99 percent of the members and was well respected by others. When shorty was released from Wisconsin,the members didn't really want to follow him, Cloud told them that they had to because he shorty was the leader
@@elijahbaptist1317 so white cloud was what title?
R.I.P. MLK
had the honor of meeting white cloud.💯👍🏿
New subscriber.
Thats chief Bull in that first picture not chief Malik
Very important to the blackstone movement u caught that . That was a edit flaw supposed to been Chief Bull then Chief Malik pic I truly appreciate that real talk I’m dropping one one chief bull real soon 🔜
*king bull
That picture was Chief Bull,not Jeff Fort(Chief Malik)
Fact
Edit malfunction
No many mothers cried night and day that son was mad to join a gangs and was killed and mothers had to bury there sons, it had its negativties
I think u could have done a better job talking about a legend,you talking more about everybody else instead of white Cloud
Appreciate the feed back I was just connecting the dots so people can see the inspiration n what inspired him to create a umbrella of love for all tribes and what was going on round them times that had a impact on him thank u for your comment truly
I love your podcasts I did time in Statesville 10yrs,heard of lot a great things about the legend white Cloud you the only person that did a doc on this legend and your right he was very respected a very powerful and he brought a lot of money to the mob just as well as Shorty Freeman, jealous got white Cloud killed,rumers was out that he was about to talk over the mob,him and king Shorty just beat a murder case right before he got killed,also rumers was out that king Shorty slept with his wife andDon Durky .KT was Shorty right hand man,plus he had a Very powerful step brother name CP Charlie Parker.....White Cloud was a treat.....R.I.H legend
I know this videos is old at this point. I’m a BD from NLR, AR if you know then you know we were one of the first cities put on the books outside of the mother city of Chicago. Was White Cloud prominent in bringing Shorty and Hoover back together when Shorty had the BD’s join F.O.L.K.S ??? I hope you see this lol
We wasn’t the first cities outside of Chicago be real
@@RastaJayG not the first. One of the first. I never said we were first.
Salute
White Cloud was killed by his own people, he would not have gotten into a car with anybody. Think about it. He was getting to powerful for some people to accept, true but sad. Someone saw him get into that car 😮😮
8:44 ike look like terry berry bot were gds
How you know if all this is true
Ex-so-lent work!
Truly appreciate the powerful and positive feedback
Talk about watkeeta Valenzuela
Man white cloud die in my alley
Damn...where at
Shorty slept with white cloud lady plus he had power on both sides but it was all BDs in that car with him tho
How much is an hour of your time?
@@leadkeeprzproductionz3368 for what?
@madeinusa9394 much respect brother. That's my old man & I hoping to touch base on the mystery...
@@leadkeeprzproductionz3368Shorty was in jail out of town and call the hit from there KT put it together he was tricked into thinking they were picking up money from Harvey Illinois and on the way they killed him and left him in Harvey then KT became Number 2# under shorty
@@leadkeeprzproductionz3368The mystery is who was all in the car ?
That’s my old school Parker
I knew white cloud personally and he was not a role model that is why he died like he did.
Appreciate your comments even though I disagree
WHO IS TO JUDGE, NOT 1, WE USED TO LUV CLOUD, DID A LOT FOR THE KIDZ, DID U?✔️🛑
They should hsve created hospitals due them being the ones doing the murder game. Makes sense
Good comment
🛑 MOST CRIME IS DOMESTIC, VIOLENCE IS DOMESTIC, AMONG FAMILY AND SO CALLED FRIENDS, THEY DIDN'T START IT, AND ITS STILL GOING ON RIGHT NOW✔️
That’s not Chief Malik’s Thafs King Bull
Facts
One of the worst things I’ve had to hear on here
What’s that?
@@flaccosantanatv9277 the pace
Black people can organize but the unity somehow can't remain sustaine because it can't out doo a more democratic organization where group can come to together vote right or wrong and stay intact for the bigger cause.
TP Folks @flaccosantanatv9277 the picture of the brother wearing sunglasses @3:52 with the lady with the afro is not Jeff Fort that is The Honorable Eugene "Bull" Hairston Founder of the Black Stone Rangers good brother
Facts !
I sincerely appreciate the observation G it was definitely a editing malfunction it was supposed to be a picture of chief Malik
Wt about Blk King Cobras ?
Don't let social media fool you, BJ was never that. Renegade Disciples
Great video but it was all over the place & not enough about Whitecloud
Thanks for the feed back I tried to dhow a collective of different events and people that had a effect on Whitecloud
Where did you get some of those pictures???? Not Jeff with fist raised. He was never that large until after first prison stint
When you put these excerpts from historical figures talking, you just throw them in there with zero intent huh?
Expound on your thoughts brother
David was Noa fucking bd smfh bd didn't come til the fucking split and when wad that