Why Croatia's Government Was Just Dissolved
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In this video, we’ll explain why Plenkovic is holding early elections, what the key issues in the campaign may be, and what an opposition victory would mean for Croatia’s political trajectory.
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0:00 Intro
0:51 HDZ context + early elections
3:25 Corruption
5:35 Economy
7:15 What happens next?
7:57 Sponsor
If you wounder how it really is, just imagine this:
Croatia make product named Vegeta. It's made in company Podravka. And Vegeta seasonings are cheaper to buy in Austria where they are exported, than in Croatia where is it made. And Austrian citizens have 3-4x bigger monthly paychecks than Croatian citizens.
And that's just a drop of water in the ocean of fuckery in Croatia.
Taxes and dumping policies
Vegeta (250g) in Konzum Croatia is 2 e. In Austria you can get it in Spar (3 e) and Billa (3 e)
A chocolate donut in Croatia in a chain bakery costs 1€. In the USA, donuts are same price or cheaper, and US salaries are much higher than Croatian.
mislim da je to logično ! Zato fluidni zeleni socijalist Tomašević , kao ti gradonačelnik Zagreba ne pušta žičaru u rad dvije godine, pa nema ni "Zlatne kraljice ". 42% naših građana ide u Austriju , Italiju , Švicarsku, Sloveniju na skijanje i tamo kupe Vegetu . Možda 2kg. možda 100 kg i onda ovdje prodaju i tako zarade za skijanje . Vi dolazite na more , u sezoni, BDP raste , uživate jedete našu Vegetu i pijete vino po 20 evra . Eto sve štima . I gdje je problem ?
That's nothing compared to Hungary and the government stronger than ever.
As a croatian, we don‘t call our parlament a parlament
Its a circus
How original.
Koje druge parlamente osim hrvatskog pratite ?
If Croatia is bad, wait until you see Canada's! We got a crack smoking mayor 15 years ago, and a PM whose takes on race is so offensive that it would remind you of the wars in the 1990s.
@@tanjag5901 bravo❤
To be honest, show me a government that isn't a circus. 😆 Not trying to defend anyone, on the contrary. I'm completely and utterly disgusted by most politicians anywhere. Disgusting, devious, vile creatures. Worse than solicitors or bankers. Oh maybe not as bad as the latter... 😆
his defense minister killed a man in drunk driving incident, Plenković defended him. Another 30 ministers were caught in stealing, other mishaps but he defended each one of those also
Every day we see a case about stealing and nothing ever happens. Even when they kill a person, nothing happens. How can you say this is not a dictatorship? This is a dictator within "democracy"
Exactly!!!! All scum and trash that has been stealing money and protected their criminals all these years! We need to fix our country
Im Croatian. I didn't know my government was dissolved. I didn't know we had government to be honest. I thought this country was sold to foreign interests a long time ago.
Slično ti je to ne samo u Hrvatskoj, nego i po čitavom regionu, pa čak i na zapadu se puno toga mijenja. Ne podnosim desničarski populizam, ali i ljevica ti sada svugdje po evropi ima moto: proleteri svih zemalja jebajite te se! Pa nakon trke za naoružanjem po Europi, sad nastavljamo uloživati za proizvodnju oružja unutar granica našeg kontinenta. Bukvalno, mi smo ti svi u nekom tranzicijskom vremenu da nas dragi Bog sve sačuva i obrani, jer sutra nije nikad bilo nepridvidljivije!
Well, even sold, some sort of government needs to exist, even if it is a puppet
Oh, cmon. Tell me ONE country in which citizens don't repeat this bs about their country being sold to foreign interests 😂
@@imcbocian You're right! My country is prospering! And our government is fulfilling people's demands and working to establish our independence and prosperity globally.
Yeh, I was surprised too. Like "there's a government?! wow I thought this was Wild West or anarchy of some kind..." Not keen on reading Croatian news as news are shoddy.
"Croatian Inflation" sounds like a glam rock band from the 80s
In the 80s we had "Yugoslavia Hyperinflation"
Nah more like Bob Marley's less talented nephew's solo album. 😆
"We are Croatian Inflation! Laku noć!"
Inflation is 4.5%, which is a lot but not a disaster
@@JaTi-kz6hxIn what universe is 4.5% inflation not a disaster? In a growing economy with a growing population maybe less so. If your savings are cut in half within 18 years, that is a disaster!
There are so many imprecise statements in this video.
1.) Elections were 5th July 2020 so it is not snap elections term is about to end
2.) Government is not dissolved, government is in power until new government is elected, ruling party announced that this parliament will be dissolved until 22nd of March
who cares?
@@user-sm1eu1sl1rbecause words mean things.
@@user-sm1eu1sl1rPeople wanting to get informed???
@@user-sm1eu1sl1r It sounds much more dramatic, if they say "government was *just* dissolved (in this very moment!!!11!1!)" than the government decided to dissolve itself in three weeks and hold new elections, a completely normal democratic process.
@user-sm1eu1sl1r everyone who wants to know truth, but to your point not many people on TH-cam
Increasing cost of living, garbage salaries and little to no decent housing availability seems to be a universal problem everywhere.
Honestly, corruption is by far biggest problem, by far. All of problems you listed come from corruption.
Yep that describes where i live perfectly, i live in Portugal
And the corruption has been a problem plaguing both HDZ and SDP, with the latter also (at least historically) having a tankie problem.
Until great wealth transfer occours. You inherit the houses and cars of your grandparents.
Now i will have excess money(everything after paying bills to invest into european stocks , or to open a business.)
@@lovrovalentic3056 Also, the prices make much more sense when those Croatians then return to Croatia for holidays with their western salaries, or when they retire in Croatia with a western pension.
6:45 GDP growth means jack shit when living standards are falling
Yeah GDP per capita has its flaws, but is MUCH better than GDP alone.
Or productivity metrics.
I hate how politicians and most media just look at GDP as short hand.
They need to educate the population on why its not as valuable. And no Serious economist looks at it in isolation.
@@MrRishik123but it's easier sell "numbers go up means we do good job" to voters than actually deal with the problems
Oh shit, brother...?
@@MrRishik123GDP per capita also means jack shit when the country is full of corruption and economic inequality
@@xbirdshorts5075 of course :D
Ireland being a great example of how GDP per capita is a flawed metric too.
Most of their GDP numbers being propped up by being a tax haven for many big bank and corporate headquarters.
Greetings to all Croats from Latvia 🇱🇻
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The Zagreb election part is misleading. The former mayor of Zagreb Milan Bandić led an independant party for over 20 years and literaly died about a month before the election. The mayorship of Zagreb is strangely one of the rare political positions where HDZ is very much irrelevant alongside Rijeka and Istria
Bandić was HDZ ally, his party voted with him in the Parliament and HDZ with him in Zagreb. They both shared the idea of being utterly corrupt.
@@markobajt9261 True, but the graph makes it out as tho HDZ sufered a major defeat when their candidate wasn't even their main horse in the race
The HDZ is irrelevant in most major cities. Even in conservative Split you have a "centrist" mayor with Ivica Puljak.
Istria leaning hard left ngl
Puljak in Split is now HDZ’s the biggest problem they tried and did incorporate their folks in Most and obstruct them, the illusion is that they have all Dalmatia, maybe they have Sibenik, Zadar and Dubrovnik. But in the biggest and the most populated area, they have some rural parts but they never got Split really, there was two mayors only from HDZ, Kuret and Krstulovic.
Funny how this government works, 200,000 Croatians left due to gov. negligence, and now foreign workers come in. That is how this gov. solves issues. Instead of attracting foreign investment,
entreprenourship, they do the opposite. lol
Yes, further destroying the cost of labour.
It is a globalist plan and no matter what groverment is in power,they'd have to follow the orders accordingly.
Almost half a million people leave.I'm one of them...
It's so sad thinking in the early 2000's we had 4.5 million people...
that number is more like 500,000 now, a sad reality..
Bogati koliko Hrvata gleda tldr
Evo i ja među njima Hehe
Bolje nego Gora na hrtu
@@parazitkolol HRT je ipak državni medij, dok je tldr privatni i neovisni medij. Samim time što je državni medij, hrt nikad neće biti potpuno neovisan
@@sistermcandbro850 kakve to veze ima s vrhunsko-kvalitetno-igranom serijom "Gora"?
@@parazitkolol Zbunio sam se, nikad nisam gledao goru, samo na hrtu gledam dokumentarce i tjt. Krivo sam procijenio o čemu pričaš.
A huge chunk of people here in Croatia are retired people that have a very low pension. HDZ just before election offers some small subsides to retirees which they eat up like nothing and then just vote for them. For as long as I remember they've been doing this and since they come on top every election they have the money to keep this train going while stealing money from the rest of the country throughout the mandate.
Unfortunately, our retired people can be bought with a pen, a lighter and a promisse of higher pension.
@burneracc2567 that's exactly that "promise", you won't be able to sustain ANY kind of pension as more working people leave abroad
There is an awful lot of parallelism between Portugal and Croatia.
Both have a very small population.
Both have a high level of corruption in the gov.
Both are heavily subsidized EU countries.
Both have higher than expected inflation driven by food prices.
Both are having a talent exodus problem.
Both rank lowest in all developed countries indexing tables.
If i knew nothing about either country, i'd say they are brothers separated at birth.
Portugal is more progresive,Croatia is shithole
Well, they aren't doing that bad compared to other post-communist countries. Plus they had a war in the 90s. It also doesn't help that the Left in Croatia is notoriously fractured and characterized by in-fighting, which makes it hard to have any real change. The only ones, who really united the Left were Ivica Racan and Zoran Milanovic, but these governments were aswell notoriously instable.
Name one !
Bruh
@@YourD3estinYZoran Milanović 💀
I’m Macedonian and when I visited Zagreb a few months ago compared to the last time 3 years back I was honestly shocked how worse things were looking. Less local young people, who leave because of low wages, and a lot of South Asian immigrant workers in their place.
So instead of letting the labour shortage naturally increase wages, and implementing policies to manage this problem, they just fuck it up even more.
At moments I felt like I was in New Delhi, not the Balkans. Pozdrav braca hrvati, nadam se stvari cu se popraviti
Zagreb has an average salary of €1300, that very good compared to most of the former Yugoslav €500 a month. It's also definitely enough to live a decent life, the people that left are just greedy.
@@JmKrokY average means nothing, look at the median
@@GeoHdReal You're trying to make my country seem like an impoverished undeveloped nation. We are a high income developed nation, I don't even live in Zagreb and I know that even where I live people can make easily over a thousand Euros a month and even €1500 even with basic edutation.
Also nothing wrong with migrants, just because you have conservative beliefs doesn't mean that we Croats do, many of us accept different people and have nothing against them.
Also, hopefully things will improve for your country as well!
@@JmKrokY Druže daj ne seri, pola milijon su se preselili radi to sto su greedy, vazi. Ako znas jednostavna ekonomija onda bi znao da kad ima nedostatak od rabotnice place rasteju da nadoknadu, a nedostatak je vise za posle na minimalcu kao cistace, konobare i tako dalje. Jel stvarno mislis da je pametno uvezuti 300 tisoc ljudji iz drzave sa 5 puta nizji standard i totalne druge kulture, i jel stvarno ne kapiras kako to upliva za nisko placene posle? Nisi “open minded” ako seres za svoj narod radi to sta hoce visji standard, a istovremeno velicis ciste ekonomske migrante i velicis gi ko neke “dobrodojdeni prijatelji”.
In most countries mafia and government are two separate institutions. In Croatia they are the same thing.
That's unfortunately the sad case for most of the Balkan nations.
Same in Turkey as well
Haiti: hold my coup!
you talking about serbia right?
@@kategoried7501 That's especially the case for Serbia. Croatian government is also a big mafia, but at least they lean towards Western values, and even send aid to Ukraine.
I had a lovely holiday there in 1999 with my first wife and again in 2011 with my third wife 😊
But where did you take the second wife? 🤔
so you went with Ivana and Melania, but didn't go there with Marla? In need of a big digout atm by any chance? ;D
@@ajkulac9895that marriage ended before summer hols
Dont get married. Just dont get married. You dont need to marry every woman you sleep with.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👍 you could enter the OLYMPICS !
I would not use the words ''early election'' to describe what's happening, as the Sabor was due to dissolve anyway for regular elections at some point during spring. So neither the opposition motion nor, now, the government's motion (which will take effect later in March) actually cause an ''extraordinary'' early election.
Great explanation! Yes, parliamentary elections are due to happen in very ordinary time in accordance to the Croatian constitution and election law.
Hope things work together for Croatia's good, and that the people of Croatia get a government that works for them.
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That's humanly impossible to occur here. The elections going well for us would probably be something akin to the coming of Christ. As well, good results would signify the beginning of the end of the world.
It won't since even if Opposition wins, their main promise it seems is basically that they arent HDZ and aren't as corrušt nothing else and main person who would get Chosen as the leader is incompetent fool
sorry, i laughed a little, let me mention that a judge declared the current party a criminal organization ages ago and yet...nothing was done...quite possibly the most successful of its kind at least in the EU
Together with all other parties? Since they are quite more criminally organised
You forget to say that in Croatia are now 200.000 foreign workers (Nepal, Philippines, India, Balkans etc) and projection for 2030. is 500.000 in a country of 3,5 mil. ppl. It's absolutely devastating for local population!
How is it devastating? These people are here legally, they work, they obey our laws more than we do, and most of all we need them. Croatians don't want to work for Croatian wages any more because we all have EU passports so why would we? Even the damn post office can't find workers any more.
@@ajkulac9895It’s devastating because the government is doing nothing to bring the young people back in the state rather they import a foreign workforce that works in a chattel slavery conditions for awful pay which further destroys the cost of our labour and is only amplified by the high cost of living.
@@tonimarinkovic3234 There's really not much anyone could do to bring young people back. Even if they did their best effects would be minimal. Fact is life is better in countries with functioning democracies, much higher wages, more transparent governments etc. Young people are smart enough to figure that out. So many people I grew up with now live in other countries and none of them plan on returning.
With 500,000 foreign workers Croatia will have over 4M of population in 2030. 3,5M is projection without migrants...
Wait untill these foreign workers start recognising themselves as national minorities and demanding stuff like positions in parlament and HDZ starts forming even stronger connections for bringing in even more of them into the country, cooperating with their govs. to import even more cheeper lower quality crap while prices of domestic products and food keep growing. Very few foreign workers want to work in agroculture, they left their agroculture jobs back home, they are here to do construction. These foreign workers came here from even worse poverty (earning maybe 150€ - 200€ / month) to earning 850€ / month, working shorter hours, having benefits and more. Soon they will want that for their relatives, friends and one worker will bring 5 or 6 more with him.
Ivan Turd Itch, ahahahah.
Thank you for this. :D :D
Reminded me of "The new statesman". Its Alan B'stard, not bastard.
@@123batina hahah, yes, thanks for reminding me of that :D :D
That's exactly what Ivan is ;)
Haha, you can't make that shit up 😂
HDZ is wining with 16% of elector but the main problem is that people are refusing to vote and so those 16% in a pool of 45% voters is enough for 55 HDZ hands in a Parliament od 150 persons.
And problem is diaspora who do not know for any other option than HDZ because they think they are only one Croats other are "comunists". And if you count dead people who regulary vote and if you count diaspora HDZ could win without any vote in Croatia...
Also, Center and Left parties have since agreed on a coalition with the exception of Možemo. So on the left there's SDP-led Center/Center-Left coalition and Green/Left Možemo, On the right theres Most/Suverenisti coalition and Domovinski pokret. HDZ is not really ideologically defined, they're an interest group interested in staying in power. They can be defined as big tent
Also HDZ and SDP are relatively similar. Both stem from the former Communist Party from Yugoslavian period and can be described as left and right wing of the former Communist Party.
Plenković and his family were also personally affiliated with the former Communist party either by being members of the party or some of its branches such as their student organization.
"Interest group" - never thought of them that way. Really puts it into perspective. And to further your comment: Plenković stated today they are becoming a state interventionist party. So much for a right-wing free market ideology.
@@liva236muzika They were never really a free market party. Both them and the SDP use economy experts from Croatian universities which all follow the same economic school of thought.
With the caveat that Možemo and SDP are currently in coalition talks so that might change as well. Even though previously talks between the two parties didn't usually go great, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed for this one. Plenki must go.
@@parazitkolol I don't agree. People voting for centrist parties (Fokus, Centar) would be less motivated to vote since they're also voting for leftists and vice versa.
I think liberal/centrist parties should have gone in one block and leftist parties in another. Though an argument could be made that the SDP is closer to center then they are to the leftist ideology so it's already happening
Messages revealed were not between Andrej Plenkovic and Gabriela rather with Gabriela Zalac and Josipa Plesic (ex. Rimac) where they mentioned supposed AP.
God bless you and your work sir. Respect from Croatia 💙💙💙
ein Beitrag des Mittwoches, 6. März 2024
There can never be >= 1 "God!"
@@maikotter9945 strictly speaking the Father,the son and the holy ghost.
Absolutely not blessings....anything but for him and the party...if anything jail would be more appropriate
@@luksri3 can you elaborate on that sentence please? What do you mean specifically? Is he unreliable or idk? tnx in advance sir. 💜
Btw Ivo Sanader ruled as a PM of Croatia from 2003 to 2009, not 2006, this is a mistake in this video, he was brought down by Fimi Media corruption scandal
Correction: SDP is not the opposition, it is the other side of the same coin.
Both selling us out to the West and China
Pretty good analysis of the situation in Croatia. For those who want to know more: Interestingly, populist left and right parties are rather weak in Croatia, so whoever wins the elections will continue fairly robust centrist pro-European policies. Apart from the rather unpredictable President Milanović, the Croats are also quite pro-Ukrainian, as they had similar experiences in the early 1990s, so no change is to be expected here either.
Comparing Plenković with Orbán is far too premature. That being said, the problem with the candidate for attorney general was that he was morally questionable, not necessarily incompetent or even politically corrupt. IMHO he was simply too cosy with various very important people in Croatia and these are the ones who could end up being accused for serious charges in the future. When electing an attorney general, you should always apply higher standards than for other civil servants, and in this respect the candidate was not adequate.
In general, the current government has not done enough to address Croatia's crucial long-term problems (depopulation, corruption, coastal devastation...), but the opposition parties have performed similarly poorly when they were in office. There is simply not much appetite in all parties to take necessary unpopular measures, such as proper taxation of real estate or curtailing various politically aligned individuals from benefiting illegally.
PS. The situation in Zagreb is completely irrelevant to this story. Like everywhere else in the world, urban centres tend to vote left and rural areas right.
Morally questionable but not corrupt? How?
@@napoleonfeanor He was BFF with some important people who were later convicted for crimes that he had nothing to do with. This is by no means illegal, but it is very problematic indeed. You do not want such a person as attorney general even if he has done nothing illegal. (The fact that they were eventually convicted would actually prove that he was innocent. But as I said, this is my personal opinion and take it with a grain of salt.)
Turudić was also proven to have lied to parliament upon his appointment as attorney general.
do you believe it to be important that HDZ do not win again regardless of the winner? from a democracy standpoint
@@benpuljak2304 I do not know exactly what you are getting at, but perhaps your suggestion can be boiled down to the question of whether the office of prime minister should be time-limited too. I am not aware of any country where such a limit exists, but in view of Orbán it is certainly worth considering.
Inflation decreasing doesn't mean prices drop
It means everything is shit fuck expensive still and you have no money for food. But the government will jerk itself off about "wow we brought down inflation under 10% we did such a good job".
Hmm I wonder why onions 3x-10x the price az they were 4 years ago.
What would actually help is deflation but the current economic model worldwide won't allow such a thing.
not generally, but the 4% figure is cummulative. For the last few months Croatia has been experiencing deflation. Prices are dropping for many goods.
Not for everyday goods, especially not for food
Bad servants of bad masters. In Croatia we only have a name of a country still left, everything else is sold out or stolen. Živjela Hrvatska!
A very decent overview, guys.
hope everything goes good
Doubt it...!
“Tko zadnji ode, neka ugasi svjetlo” ( The last one who leaves turn off the light ). What do you think the song “Rim Tim Tagi Dim” is about?
Lovren claims otherwise. 😅
3:53 damn as a romanian im both impressed and concerned.
It's "perception" of corruption index, not an index of actual corruption - the perception of corruption has skyrocketed as people become increasingly sensitive to things they weren't registering before. That's a very good thing, but skews indexes such as these. It would be hard to say that Croatia is actually more corrupt than Angola, for example.
There is corruption, but it should be taken into account that the prime minister went to prison for corruption while his party was in power. It still means that the judiciary is doing its job and that the rulers are not protected
@@kreol1q1qit's called "perception" because it is impossible to accurately measure corruption; but it is calculated based on data and academic and experts' studies, it's not simply asking random people how much corruption they think there is.
Yes, pretty bad, but still a bit better than Romania. Both of your governments' corruption is impressive (in all the wrong ways).
What shoud be really concerning for any european citizen is the fact that , giving the coruption levels in this country , Croatia joined the Schenghen area ,and at the same time Romania and Bulgaria were brutally and cowardly denied their clear right to join ,by Austria and european hypocrites in Bruxelles, who did nothing to stop the russian puppet Nehammer. This is not european consensus , this is a mockery. Impact of this cowardly , unjustified action against Romania and Bulgaria will be long and lasting on Europe.
There are mafias in all countries, in Croatia the mafia has a state. Former communist Plenković who in his graduation thesis glorified Marx and Kardelj, who were his role models, fled Croatia during the 1991-1995 war and contracted anemia so as not to be mobilized.
It is incredible that such a guy becomes the prime minister of Croatia 20 years later, has lunch with Alexander Soros, and presents himself as a moderate right-winger. About 30 of Plenković's ministers have fallen due to corruption and crime from 2016 to today, and he is still in power. Indestructible! It destroyed Croatia both economically and demographically, all young people are fleeing the country that has become a nursing home. Plenković solves the problem of labor shortage by replacing the population, massively importing cheap labor from exotic Asian countries. He receives all the quotas of asylum seekers that Brussels sends him, and he is not interested in the decline in the standard of living of Croats.
He will win again because he has an army of scumbags, state and municipal officials who will vote for him, while the vast majority of Croats do not go to the polls. With 3.5 million inhabitants, Croatia has a larger state apparatus than Germany.
I've read/heard somewhere a few years back that Zagreb has more government officials than London!
Jeli vi mislite da je plenki top ili bottom ja misim bottom on i zoki bi bili pre slatki kao couple
on je Incel
kao kod nas u srbiji vucic bottom a brnaba top
Žao mi je svih angleza što će ovo sada prevest
@@lazarstevanovic3868 ja sam mislio da je obrnuto
Plenky je power bottom. +1 tko zna.
Guy is talking about Croatian politics and mentions only the left-wing parties (SDP and Možemo), which have about 22% support in the polls, while he didn't mention the right-wing parties (MOST/HS and DP) which have about 17% support and many former HDZ voters will vote for them now...
A major stat missing from the economy section is youth unemployment. A quick google puts it 18.8%, and it was as high as 50% in 2015. The exodus and low birth rates are that statistic correcting itself.
Thank you soo much for making this video, much love from croatia!❤🤍💙
Early? No these are regular elections. The only question was when they would take place. Turudić also made him self guilty of conflict of interest.
its early since Plenkovic isnt dead.
As a Croat, I am glad to see that this situation is covered by you guys. Though, to be fair, you did make some misleading mistakes as well as glossed over some things, but we're a country you don't talk about often, so such is bound to happen.
Croatia has both a major right wing and a major left wing opposition. HDZ used to be thought of as a right-wing, patriotic party for years, but during it's last 2 mandates, it became very obvious that they care for their own interests much more than the interests of the country and people (as "patriotic" would imply) leading to a rise of right-wing opposition.
The comparison with Orban is a bit far fetched. To say that Orban is making power grabs is very debatable depending on who you ask. For Plenković, meanwhile, everyone - both right and left - agrees that he is doing power grabs.
The Turudić problem was hijacked by the left (they told the "MOST" party - one of the bigger ones in the right opposition - not to come to the protest) turning what could have been an excellent opportunity for the entire political spectrum to unite against obvious corruption and power grabbing moves to a question of ideology. There were also reports of "We Can!" supporters shooing away right-wing people showing up to the protest (notice the lack of Croatian flags on all protest footage).
The reason Plenković and the HDZ could do so many questionable things this mandate is due to the way their coalition was set up. In Croatia, certain minorities have a guaranteed number of seats in the parliament. This seems nice on the surface, but in practice it resulted in career politicians that barely represent minority interests, use their position only to stash parliamentary paychecks and occasionally take a dump on the Croatian state. As they can't realistically loose their seats in parliament (most minorities have a single minority party total), they don't care how they vote as no one will push them out. The ruling coalition consists of HDZ and these minority representatives, hence HDZ was in no risk of it's government collapsing as the members won't vote for non-confidence to their own party, and the minorities see no reason to loose access to power by risking another election.
Also, SDP split into 2 or 3 parties recently, but this somehow went unnoticed both in the Croatian public and abroad. They're a very questionable party currently as their voter base used to be consisted of economic leftists primarily, but since 2016, they're trying to switch into a more modern socially liberal party without exactly knowing how to do so, leaving the economic leftism of their previous programs.
Možemo (We Can!) might loose quite a bit of support as their supporter base used to lay nearly entirely in the capital, Zagreb. With the election of Možemo member Tomašević to the position of mayor in Zagreb, they seem to have lost nearly all support in the city as he proved to be somewhat incompetent and Možemo seemed too focused on ideology rather than their jobs as major and majority in the city assembly. A common scene of their mandate is Zagreb covered in trash bags as they failed to organize their new recycling initiative well.
Domovniski Pokret (The Homeland Movement), currently the biggest right-wing opposition party in parliament, lived and died on Croatian singer Miroslav Škoro who founded the party. Suspecting an inner party conspiracy against him during their parliamentary mandate, he went radio silent for a few weeks to see if someone would try to claim his position as president of the party. Such a thing did happen, the party collapsed into internal fighting and many proved unfaithful and self-interested. This resulted in Škoro (the founder) and others leaving the party, so today the Homeland Movement is a weird shell of self-interested or not very smart people with a bad sense for PR and politics as everyone of any quality left the party together with Škoro. It remains unknown what Škoro's plans are for this elections.
All in all, the situation is not looking good as the old parties are either in a state of mild collapse or loosing their voter base, while new parties of any note failed to appear on the spectrum. Barring an unexpected surprise of a great campaign for some of the parties, HDZ seems likely to win another term. If such a surprise doesn't occur, the most we can hope for is HDZ being forced into a coalition with a party that would dare to vote for non-confidence in case they try to do anything questionable again.
You've definitely summarized the current deal with our nation as perfectly as possible. These are pretty much all of the concurrent situations that make up, my dear people, the simply tragic state of affairs in Croatia.
Do you think things could of been different if Skoro got presidency?
You are spot on with video under 10 min, like you are living in Croatia.
Sanader years are wrong he was PM until 2009
nice pfp
I wish we had a parliament in the States. I wish we could have more parties and then the congress could just dissolve when it isn’t functioning.
As a non-american, i agree with you
you have more parties, they just don't stand a chance, mainly due to superpacs and other BS when it comes to funding parties and politicians....your constitutional republic system is way better than this insane asylum we have here....a country of barely 3.8 million people and over 150 active political parties....most people would struggle to name 10-15, let alone over 100-150+
you have a solid foundation of checks and balances, but you have the same problem as most of the world population - people are politically illiterate and don't care until they can no longer afford to ignore the issues
As a Serb, its terrible to see that croats are now suffering the same fate as we do but our political crisis is getting worse. With how they treat the parliament and how most of them are authoritarian, its bad to see how much this situation can grow awful. Hope for the best in future that we could find true democracy and freedom in our country and end the dictators once and for all.
Bice bolje kad se resimo Vucica i "EU nema alternativu."
Frankly, as a Croat, I can say that Serbian politics is a clear warning of what can become here, too. That is why installation of that corrupt Attorney General united the left parties into a coalition. That"s why we elect the president of the Republic from the opposition in order to maintain some sort of checks and balances.
@@milostomic8539 On i drzi Srbiju izvan Evrope.
@@dresscode4197 Srbija je u Evropi ali je van EU.
@@milostomic8539 Da... al kao da smo van EU i Evrope.
Imagine that somebody talking about our politics
They are probably laughing at us.
Finaly my favourite chanel coverd my country ❤❤
You need to make follow up video to this one 😁
These days boundaries between who's considered to be on left political spectrum and on right conservative side do get blurred up in so many cases in many countries.
In our local Croatian context this actually means that center-right HDZ and center-left SDP are quite similar in so many things except for some hard core ideological principles which usually don't have much to do to the every-day peoples living and standard! Both of these mainstream parties do support the EU policies, capitalist market economy with all it's hard flaws, liberal democracy, NATO...
And when it comes to protection of common people, although deemed as the "workers" and "social party" SDP governments usually were worse to workers than notorious HDZ. For instance, the largest ever and very steep cut of salaries in public sector, one from which it's stabilization and rise at acceptable levels was lagging behind for atleast another 15 years or even more, has been done by the SDP goverment headed by late Ivica Račan. Anorher SDP gov. headed by Zoran Milanović that was remembered as probably the worse ever and most incompetent, also wasn't very beneficial for common people and they even planned to give away all Croatian highways at the long time concessions to private corporations which faced up with extremely strong criticism and popular opposition.
At the end one more thing should be mentioned, though conservative HDZ is well known for it's endemic corruption, even SDP goverments showed as quite corrupt ones and prone to political clientelism and this party also had their fair share of corruption scandals with high profile party members as the prominent "stars"!
People also ought to know that Račan's gov sold all of Croatia's gold reserves in 2004. Only for the price of gold to skyrocket ever since.
@@ctd325
Absolutely agreed! And this gov. also had started process of extremely negative selling of Croatian strategic oil and gas company INA to the Hungarian MOL which has, after it is believed to and ruled my Croatian court, criminal HDZ deal of ex. premiler Sanader ended in dominant ownership over 51% in foreign corps. hands with cathastrphic consequences for the Croatian oil and gas industry perspectives.
It is of paramount importance that HDZ does not win these elections. Their political moves in the last 6 months have been a complete power trip and winning another election would move us in a similar direction to Hungary. However, anyone else winning this election is in for a hard four years as HDZ have set up the new government for a failure (like they did in 2009) by making quite a few people pleasing budget decisions which will be hard to follow through.
What is bad in Hungary that isn't already the case in Hroatia?
@@napoleonfeanor Not just Hungary but Serbia as well, any country that has the same people ruling for an extended time is experiencing democratic backsliding, where opposition is basically non existant as the ruling party has driven them to extinction.
@@napoleonfeanor"Hroatia" 🗿
@@napoleonfeanorcroatia need to continue to align themselves with democracy, and not slip under the spheres of influence of the likes of russia, hungary, serbia.
I have really started thinking that way in the last year. Stuff seemed at least relatively ok beforehand, but plenković started invading other branches of government recently. They just did some jerrymandering with different parts of the country.
Politics of every country is a reflection of its people.
my brain was hoping its the UK, when i read the word snap election. 😭
Hopefully soon......
They'll cling onto power for as long as they can get away with. That only happens here when they think it will end in their favour (think Mays snap election a few years ago that backfired).
They'll kick that can as far down the road as they can in the hope that they can pull off a miracle before the next election. A snap election is very unlikely.
Same thing here 🥹 I hope Sadiq Khan gets elected as prime minister of uk as soon as possible because we are tired of the current fascist government
@@ahmedOsama81931, stop throwing around that f-word lightly.
Keep things in context.
@@ahmedOsama81931are you a parody?
As a Croatian who is slightly right leaning, the options we have to vote for are awful. We don't realistically have a competent party to elect. At this point, we are just choosing the lesser evil, therefore the only thing that matters is to ensure HDZ does not win again. They are a group of extremely corrupt individuals who only seek self-benefit and power and don't actually care for the country or the people.
As a Croatian, this is sadly true.
Elections are always about choosing the lesser evil.
Croat here, this sums up everything. We have no good options.
The problem is in your leaning. That thing you're leaning towards will always be corrupt, seeking self-benefit and power and not actually caring about country or the people.
It's in the right-wing DNA. The ultimate goal is reconstitute some kind of a hereditary monarchy where the power, country and the people are all PROPERTY of a single family.
Tudjman's 200 families were just a step in that direction, through an attempt of a modern form of feudalism, much like Putin's oligarchs.
The only guy who's kinda managed it is Kim Il Sung - North Korea is effectively a hereditary monarchy now. IF the Ils manage to continue the line without a male heir.
Same thing in Ireland as well
You have to be very ignorant of Croatian politics to consider the opposition's taunt for early elections serious. It's a kind of performance, which traditionally happens before every elections. The Croatian opposition is weak and disunited, and 300,000 young, dissatisfied voters have found jobs in other EU countries, so that their votes can no longer be counted on by the opposition.
Ivo Sanader was a prime minister from 2003 to 2009, not 2006
You've covered everything down to perfection! Sharing this to my family. 👏👏
Croatia being Croatia
I mean... Early elections is pretty much not true... Elections need to be held this year, having them at the start or end of the year Is not so much early.
Exactly!
Our own national products absurdly more expensive in croatia than if you go to like bosnia or slovenia or austria
MCdonalds is also cheaper in Austria than in croatia, and they have 3 times our salaries 💀
Sanader looks like netanyahu, so im not surprised about the war profiteering and corruption charge
Croatian here, only people who vote for HDZ are people who have benefits from it. There was even a poll on the biggest news site in Croatia that went allong the lines of are you a human or HDZ-ovac
Social benefits ?
@@houseplant1016 HDZ employed a bunch of people in croatias overbloated buirocracy. a vote against HDZ is a potential loss of income for those aparatčiks
@@houseplant1016monetery benefits, if you searched for all the coruption cases from HDZ in just last 10 years it would be a really long list. If we didnt have tourism Croatia would be even poorer than Bosnia for sure
Iz kojeg djela si
@@houseplant1016 I think my comment got deleted but basically. HDZ employed a bunch of aparatčiks in diplomacy so if they don't want to risk anew government cutting down on buirocracy (and their jobs) they gotta vote for HDZ
As a failed government myself, Croatia really appeals to me
SIlly sidenote: 3:52 And in comes Yakko to sing the "countries on the earth" song.
"We have best politicians ever!" said no one.
I'm pretty sure that we have idiots who think so.
PLENKI JE TOLIKO OGAVAN MORA CIJELI SVIJET ZNATI AJMOOOO
Fr
Je isto ko i Zoki.
@@bubee8123 Not really. Zoki is more like having someone drunk throw up all over you in a public toilet.
Plenki is like being held down on the floor of that same public toilet while someone defecates all over you. There IS a difference.
Kao i opozicija
Ma bolje i on nego Zoki. A i Domovinski Pokret je sumnjiv, jer ima dosta srborusofila.
Treba nam alternativa koja nije srborusofilska ni korumpirana. Ma nek su i pro LGBTABCDEFGHIJK+, glavno da ne daju ustupke Srbima i Rusima i da pretvore Hrvatsku u pravu zapadnu državu.
Ono što šteti Rusima, šteti i Srbima.
Me being a Croatian one that left that piss poor countrz. dont get me wrong I love it but it doesnt matter who leads it SDP or HDY they are all friends behind the screens. U said corruption is big problem I will point out few things a radio girl a girl or woman that used to be the radio host ended up as Croatian prime minister.. Ivo Sanader earned 18 years in prison but he was half off it out and time he was in he was able to go watch football matches and so on had a internet,comuter TV in his room a room he didnt share. Why are people running out is beacuse u can work 40 years and end up having 250 euros pension. So tell me how do u live with that when prices are same or more expencive then Germany. Croatia looks at Germany or to be new one in Balkan but only with price of living I know people working in stores work for 350 to 400 euros a month so yea GDP increased throu the roof. Just to explain 1 last thing Croatia had 4 million people and how they measure income or minimal wage is during season of tourism so it would look way better. Season offsets poor income in Slavonia so u end up having politicians increasing the ratio. So before I left u had a minimal wage of 5.5k kuna wich in reality was 2k or it wasnt minimal it was awarage so Im sry for miss spelling it
Iskreno ne mogu lagati mi smo katastrofa bez ljutne
Could you please adjust the volume of your into sound? it is way too loud >.
Good video mate. Cheers from Zagreb
Because it is time, elections not early elections.
Is it just me or is the intro music waay too loud? 😅
Bro this is supposed to be the first election i can vote in.
And now I dont even have time to evaluate all of the options, the elections werent supposed to be so early
Rim Tim Tagi Dim
The song is popular and won by a landslide televote for a reason. We know how corrupt our government is. We know.
What early election? Election should be held this year either way. Also, all your videos on Balkan are misleading
The Balkans are a mountain range in mostly Bulgaria and a tiny part of Serbia.
@@JmKrokY ☝️🤓
@@JmKrokY "Tell me you have never been to Balkan without telling me" type comment
@@alvantra7 Ok?
@@JmKrokY Balkan got its name from a mountain range in Bulgaria and Serbia so if you have never been to balkan don't say stupid stuff
I wouldn't say there is a political crisis in Croatia. Everything seems normal to us. It is a "super" election year since we have parliamentary, EU and presidential elections in the same year, so party "tensions" might be higher. And the parliament has to be dissolved to have an election, which will happen in 12 days.
One of the reasons why HDZ is probably going to win again is that the Croatian left is very incompotent and they do not really get along. SDP split into many smaller parties a few years back. Možemo is widely considered a failiure in Zagreb, from garbage handling to earthquake renewal.
not just that but we have problem with treason and even high treason, but that's our thing.
The standard of living would be solved if the minimal pay would be raised to 1200 gross. Its currently 850. Take into consideration that taxation accounts for approximately 1/3 ofthe salary. However, the minimal salary is taxed a bit less, so it's about 650€ nett.
Minimum wage does nothing except that it causes unemployment.
@@teosamarzija please explain.
I predicted this inflation back in 2009. And it’s going to get worse.
The way you solve it is to cut government spending, reduce government regulations, reduce taxes. So companies can easily invest in beatiful Croatia
@matik0701 this is easy, you artificially raise wages, business now have to bear that cost, and in analysis they cut jobs to keep the loss down. Add in your going to even further push inflation cause now there's more money going after the same amount or less goods.. leads to parrots saying we need to raise the minimum wages again.. rinse and repeat.
@@DYhalto250 I'm fully aware of the possible side effects. However, one thing you should consider is that those side effects kick in when you artificial fiddle with the job market, but the initial assumption is that the job market is fair and the salaries are set by supply and demand. That's not the case in Croatia, trust me.
I'm from Croatia, and our government is absolute garbage. I'm ashamed.
i am also from Croatia and i am proud of our government :)
@@Nikola-mg8te Dobra veza
You quite often mention the birth rates of countries being below the replacement rate, are there any EU / developed countries that are above the replacement rate?
The election race there is like a horse race with a song in it. Rim tim tagi dim!
As a Croat who lives in Zagreb, I have to say this is a great video, the ONLY thing that matters is HDZ being removed from power...
I'd say by any necessary and available means, conversly having SDP take the throne would be equally bad.
I am going to read HDZ as EjČDiZed😅 from now on
Your Croatian pronunciation got much better now that you've got a Serbo-Croatian speaker on your team. Pretty good.
They do?
Who is the serbo-croatian speaker
It's time to put the whole "Serbo-Croatian" thing to rest. Here's why: there is no such thing as a "Serbo-Croatian language", it was only made up as part of Serbia's assimilation attempts during Yugoslavia. The idea was "Hey, our languages are quite similar, let's call them Croato-Serbian when we are in Croatia and Serbo-Croatian when we are in Serbia, wouldn't that be nice?". And for a while "that was a thing" until the discourse started changing into "Hey, this Croato-Serbian and Serbo-Croatian thing is quite confusing, let's just call it Serbo-Croatian" and then finally into "Hey, this entire thing is confusing, let's just call it Serbian". All in the name of eventually creating a Greater Serbia of course. That was just one of the many things that brought the (rightfully deserved) downfall of Yugoslavia.
To anyone that might not be fully aware of it: yes, the languages are mutual intelligible to a high degree, but they are not the same thing. A similar situation can be observed between Danish, Swedish and Norwegian but no one would dare call those "the same language".
@@phreak2day I speak Croatian and I know that linguistically it is the same language. Croatian is a standardised variety of Serbo-Croatian language.
I know this is a sore spot among nationalist Croats, but you cannot fight the reality of it, and you cannot will into being the existence of another separate, but virtually identical, language.
@@JmKrokY The writer of this video lists Serbian at native level as their language proficiency on their (public) LinkedIn profile.
3:40 so many in portugal could have suffered that fate, but we let everything go past its statute of limitations...
If only more governments could be dissolved.
Winning in a major urban center is not the same as winning across a country, look at politics in the UK, Canada and the US, the very large urban centers tend to be far left while the rest of the country just the opposite. Basically winning in Zagreb does not mean much.
True and Možemo has a big handicap, its a party purely made for Zagreb and by activists from Zagreb
Croatian defence minister said that the election will be in May/June all the way back in December. The opposition is now claiming there victory
Govorment is not helping families to grow. They prefer to import working force...
God bless democracy
Croatia is part of the EU and the euro zone therefore, their economy has been affected badly. There won't be any cheap commodities or cheap cost of living ever again for the EU. Non-EU countries are doing very well.
Lmao
I am from Croatia and I am surprised how you got all of your facts right on spot. Great journalism TLDR!
3:54 But Greece is listed as 51 on the list? So Greece is ahead of Croatia, no?
Doći će dan,kada će biti u lisicama.
Zagreb election stats are highly misleading. New major from Mozemo had few scandals and people lost fate in him as a new young guy that will make things better.
I will probably be voting for HDZ or even further right due to immigration issue in Europe. Croatia is going in right direction considering all the outside factors during the time we entered Schengen and adopted euro.
War that destroyed our economy and displaced so many people happened in 90s so now you know why population started declining during that time.
Fertility rate is not rly that great in the entire global west.
I am optimistic we were dead last on corruption index last year now we are already better then a few EU nations. While that is not a lot it is a move in right direction and nothing happens over night.
No shit Sherlock, aj ne seri
Croat here.
What is happening right now is not the electorial crisis as much as an electorial Monty Python sketch.
For instance - Croatian Democratic Union (HDZ) has a chapter in neighboring Bosnia - and it is notorious for essentually bribing people to go to Croatia and vote for HDZ, even organizing bus trips and giving sandwiches to them (this is why we have a nickname "Sendviĉari" for them). Our President, Milanović, announced the elections to be on a Wednesday to prevent them from going on a work day. HDZ chapter announced, yesterday, that all Bosnian Croats can request a leave of absence.
Also, due to our constitutional laws - Milanović technically can announce his run for Prime Minister, but he cannot be endorsed by any political party (Presidential-elects have to depart from their political party, as a President has to be a neutral figure). Our President of the Constitutional Court - Šeparović (a curndubgeonly old cunt and member of the old guard of HDZ, he was former Minister of Defense in the 90s under HDZ administration) was giving an interview about how Milanović cannot declare himself an SDP candidate without essentially resigning as President, and the issue is who replaces him as President (there is no Vice President of the Republic role in Croatian parliament). Basically, he is telling the Croatian Constitutional Law to go fuck themselves (and it doesn't help that Milanović has all the grace and charm of Del Boy from Only Fools & Horses, but equally as entertaining).
Also, Only Fools & Horses similarities don't end here - Peđa Grbin, President of SDP, is basically Rodney - a super tall oafish, anemic idiot, and nobody likes him.
Croatia has a terrible government.
Yooooo W
The Eu and Nato have been a death sentence for us.
I just don't get how people can vote _against_ their interests? At least from where I'm sitting, it only makes sense (generally) to vote for labour/liberal parties, that actually care - at least to some extent - about you & your welfare (e.g. healthcare, education, economic growth, for ordinary, working class families and individuals). Vs/ the conservative/pro-big business parties that take donations from lobbyists, who then ask the party to cut taxes for the rich and wealthy corporations, which is a big part of why they exist.
I wish we were more educated on our democracies, too many people nowadays feel like democracy itself isn't working cause they're not getting exactly what they want. But it's not a menu where you get to choose your favourite meal. It's a compromise. And we should be proud to have it (even if voting for right-wingers - so long as they're not anti-govt anarchists).
Most Croats have no idea about what our parties do (and they don't really care about democracy) so they just listen to their friends and family probably (who are most likely right wing due to many rural areas).
Well, in theory you should be right but, nowadays these boundaries between who's left and right conservative do get blurred up.
In our local Croatian context this actually means that center right HDZ and center left SDP are quite similar in so many things except some hard core ideological principles which usually don't have much to do to the every-day peoples living.
And when it comes to protection of common people although deemed as the "workers party" SDP governments usually were worse to workers than notorious HDZ. For instance, the largest ever and sharp cut of salaries in public sector, one from which it's stabilization and rise at acceptable levels was lagging behind for atleast another 15 years or even more, has been done by the SDP goverment headed by late Ivica Račan. Anorher SDP gov. headed by Zoran Milanović also wasn't very beneficial for common people and they even planned to give away all Croatian highways at the long time concessions to private corporations which faced up with the extremely strong popular opposition.
At the end one more thing should be mentioned, though conservative HDZ is well known for it's endemic corruption, even SDP goverments showed as quite corrupt ones and prone to political clientelism and this party also had their fair share of corruption scandals with high profile party members as the prominent "stars"!
This is the most stupid comment I have ever read! If you have your own business or farm in Croatia then you would understand why! You probably haven‘t created something of yourown ever in your life so you want goverment to take from others to hive it to you! FUJ!
You cant build anything in Croatia without corrupting someone. its a tragedy.
"Big" local businesses buy off mayor so they get administrative competition for city work, this is example of one small scale coruption. Imagine what the big boys are doing.
I'm living in Croatia and this is far far from true. It is just like I'm reading Left coalition pre election propaganda. Completely nonsense.
Those HDZ bastards got nice GDP figures by using inflation and EU funds, not organic growth. Meanwhile, they are setting laws and putting people in places of power to remain in parliament majority. The fact that the average Croatian can't interpret a bit advanced economic figures just helps them stay in power. Even if the opposition gets the majority in the parliament, they have to deal with all the people HDZ put in power and there are signs of economic slowdowns from Germany that might pour over to Croatia which HDZ would probably be using to blame the leading party and not the objective parameters that led to slowdown.
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