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The Worst Casting I Have EVER Welded

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  • @JamesB_JamesB
    @JamesB_JamesB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2359

    Very admirable of you not to charge. Will be hitting Like to help you out!

    • @dinutzu100
      @dinutzu100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      +1

    • @kasuraga
      @kasuraga 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      I've had shops drop over 2000 dollars worth of labor because they were having such a difficult time with my car they didn't feel it was right to charge me for them not being able to figure it out quicker.

    • @popanollie1
      @popanollie1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@kasuraga lucky

    • @kasuraga
      @kasuraga 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@popanollie1 not luck. Just a highly respectable shop that tries their best to do what's right for their customers. Their labor rate is a little on the high side compared to some shops in the area, but the quality of their work and customer service speaks volumes imo.

    • @IrieFabs
      @IrieFabs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Like"wise

  • @mattbundy4900
    @mattbundy4900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    I was a welder for the government. We did all aluminum TIG. They made the awesome choice to purchase castings from China. The irony to find out they would put all types of garbage in the casts. I’ve had everything from the sand missiles to fiberglass. And it would just keep floating in the puddle. The money saved on cost was spent in additional grinding and leak repairs. I’ve been a master welder for 18 years and I appreciate the solid content ! Keep it up!

    • @surfingcavachon
      @surfingcavachon ปีที่แล้ว +11

      You just described government procurement to a tee. Penny smart (or so they think), pound foolish

    • @KuK137
      @KuK137 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@surfingcavachon Only thanks to right wing screeching imbeciles barking government is too expensive. Sane part of political scene wants the job done well first time...

    • @rawbebaba
      @rawbebaba ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well...as someone who works in an American foundry, I can tell you both things are exactly the same

    • @ryelor123
      @ryelor123 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is that even possible? I'm guessing it must've been sand-casted parts since I don't think you can get contamination into die-cast parts due to the nature of the operation. I'm guessing they re-used their green sand so much that it started contaminating the parts.

    • @ryelor123
      @ryelor123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@surfingcavachon/videos The real fools were the ones who owned the factory, got a government contract, and still cut corners to the point where people complained. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

  • @chaunster
    @chaunster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +257

    Samurai t cases are very prone to cracking at these mounts especially when people put lower range gearing in them. They make aftermarket cradles that hold the t case by the bolt pattern instead of the factory 4 bolt mounts. If the customer puts one of these on, then they will never crack at that same spot again

    • @quartfeira
      @quartfeira 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Exactly!👏

  • @jeffreylynch3203
    @jeffreylynch3203 3 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    I was a field service engineer for GM. At one of our training sessions the guys from the plant informed us that they were adding iron powder to the aluminum used in casting transmission case halves, because aluminum has an affinity to the ferrous based molds, which was transferring material to the molds, which caused a lot of work to clean them more often than they would like, eventually ruining the molds, at a cost of over $650k per half. Adding the iron powder to the molten aluminum made the issue much less of a problem. When I earned this the light went on and then I realized why I was having so much trouble welding these castings, just like you are in this demo. Knowing this also made me understand why some of the castings I was seeing were very smooth, and others were not, and that;s because of the aluminum skin being pulled off and attaching to the molds. That's mt story and I'm sticking to it.

    • @CanadianDirt
      @CanadianDirt ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @jeffreylynch3203 thanks for posting this. I found it very interesting. I think I have experienced working with one of these exact parts that you speak of. It was a tail housing to a transfer case on a Chevy. Another welder had tried before me on the smaller of the cracks, and told the customer it was not weldable. I figured that they just didn’t adequately clean out the cracks since the tail housing piece has multiple webs and some of the sections can be quite thick. I decided to run some pre-heat and did a light wash pass over one of the cracks to see just how bad it was, and the reaction I got was unlike any type of hydrocarbon contamination in aluminum that I had dealt with before.
      I then tried baking the piece, after thoroughly degreasing it. Sometimes if there’s some stubborn oil stuck in the crack, and you can’t completely get it all out, at least baking the part seems to render the hydrocarbon much less volatile when welding over it. This time however baking it made no difference. I started to think that perhaps there was particles of anodizing or somethings going on here that I didn’t realize, and so I decided to lay in multiple small beads just like the poster of this video did. I intended to float out the contamination, remove the welds, re-groove and re-weld. Unlike the poster of this video however, I discovered it not through advance thought, but more of trial and error followed by more error and then a little luck.
      Once I kind of got this to work, I clamped the flange end of the housing hard onto my thickest steel welding table and proceeded to build up the external areas approximate 3/8 of an inch and weld out the stress riser areas that was causing this tail housing to crack in the first place. As you can imagine with so much weld going into a cast aluminum piece like this I was doubtful of the piece lasting and not re-cracking once it had some stress applied to it. I told the customer to take the piece for free and if it was still holding in a year to drop off some money for whatever he thought that it was worth. A few months later the customer came by and paid me double what I quoted him originally to do the part. As far as I know, the part is still holding, but boy did it ever try my patience!

    • @ryelor123
      @ryelor123 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its also the issue of die-casting in general having porosity issues to the point where there's TSBs that talk about patching leaking cases(that aren't leaking from gaskets or seals) with epoxy or some other sealer. Also, the surface finish for die-cast is also affected by the temperature of the dies so some that looked like they had the surface finish of a frosted window were made early on in the runs before the dies heated up.
      Die casting is great in terms of efficiency, speed, and cost but its terrible when it comes to repairs since porosity means that every part is imperfect to a degree. Maybe this will improve when we put factories in outer space.

  • @danieleltis7972
    @danieleltis7972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +793

    I had the same issue with a thermostat of an old camper, customer couldn’t find a replacement anywhere, I didn’t want to charge as I was on it for way longer than I should have been and I thought the layered welding looked a mess, turns out customer was over the moon and give me what I originally quoted even after I said there was no charge thankyou for sharing

    • @markfryer9880
      @markfryer9880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +122

      I think that in your case the customer had invested so much of their own time in trying to source a replacement part that your weld repair felt like a gift that finally solved his problem. I think that we can all relate to those sort of searches for that one special widget that we need for something and the relief that we feel on finding either the widget or a close cousin of it.

    • @D3nn1s
      @D3nn1s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Thanks for being so considerate. I think thats what his customer should have done too or at least pay half of it. Then again not everybody has the money for it, as a student i have taken people up on similar offers simply because i couldnt afford it. It feels bad but not much i could do about it :S

    • @eflanagan1921
      @eflanagan1921 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ford Engine tstat or something else ?

    • @Bleideris0
      @Bleideris0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@markfryer9880 definitely, one i needed to search an engine it was pain. They just welded similar one in order for mw to use

    • @h8GW
      @h8GW 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As someone who tried to become a graphic artist, this reminds me how artists can think their art is total crap, whilst most other people will compliment it.

  • @user-tr1gn7ox7e
    @user-tr1gn7ox7e 3 ปีที่แล้ว +557

    i just started a welding company over here in the UK because of your informative videos, we are currently doing very well. Best of luck for the future!

    • @JamesB_JamesB
      @JamesB_JamesB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Hi William.
      Where are you based in the UK?

    • @user-tr1gn7ox7e
      @user-tr1gn7ox7e 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@JamesB_JamesB South Yorkshire mate

    • @JamesB_JamesB
      @JamesB_JamesB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Great! I have family in the UK in Morley

    • @danl.4743
      @danl.4743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Best wishes. Good luck.

    • @anthonydomanico8274
      @anthonydomanico8274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hey, William. I’m in the US, but I’m always curious how welders charge for labor as I do some welding on the side. Got anything to offer in that regard?

  • @danbeck7071
    @danbeck7071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    That’s a craftsman and business man that cares about his reputation more than just a few bucks. Knowing it wasn’t a rock solid repair and letting your customer know you couldn’t put your name behind it so won’t put a bill on it speaks volumes! Good stuff!

    • @ryelor123
      @ryelor123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its also smart legally. You don't want to get sued for a repair that failed and caused a loss of oil situation at highway speeds. Even if the owner of the bike understood the issues of the repairs and was willing to take the risk, his surviving family members might not respect his wishes especially when every greedy lawyer in the area will be whispering in their ear that the welder was a greedy crook who deserves to get sued. People make the mistake of thinking that every plaintiff in frivolous lawsuits is the problem but its more often the case that they're just being misled by attorneys who trick them into thinking that everyone else is evil and greedy but themselves.

  • @1963wheeler
    @1963wheeler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    With all due respect, I've had the same thing happen to me and I remember my instructors in welding school telling me that if you can't get the parosity or the junk out then you simply have to lay down more metal because a weld that holds will impress the customer more even though it may not look good. Functionality over good looks always wins.
    Good job!

  • @Oh6Torch
    @Oh6Torch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +281

    Walking away and not having the problem staring back at you is often times the beginning of the solution.

    • @DarkKnightofIT
      @DarkKnightofIT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      The problem mocks you, trying to get into your head, under your skin, don't let it. Walk away if you need to, think about it, and come at the problem with a clear head and renewed patience.
      Or at least, this is how I like to think about it.

    • @austen9556
      @austen9556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@DarkKnightofIT you know the psychology behind that is probably the same reason you get Anxiety because your brain realizes your socially awkward or can’t do something so it just keeps telling you there’s a problem in till you fix it and become truly confident to do something

    • @DarkKnightofIT
      @DarkKnightofIT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@austen9556 y'know, I've pondered this for a while now, and I... Can't find how this is relevant to the joke I made?
      Could you explain?

    • @Kurimi13
      @Kurimi13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Excellent advice, but what if you work for a boss who is pushing you to get the job done? I hate when I get a job that gives me trouble, and not having the luxury of taking 5 minutes to step back.

    • @roadtrippin2781
      @roadtrippin2781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes indeed, trying too hard is a real thing, most of us don't know when to take a break, walk away for a bit, recompose, make a cuppa joe, just stop. Smoke a doob then go back at it.

  • @hueyley3182
    @hueyley3182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +357

    Boss, I teach at a college. Have my own shop. Have been welding for 40 yrs. There are some casting that just suck. Lol

    • @hueyley3182
      @hueyley3182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Just wanted to say I tell students to watch your videos. They are good.

    • @cr500_conversions
      @cr500_conversions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try inconel, or Sandvik... they look horrible while welding 😄

    • @mikerieck306
      @mikerieck306 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Repairing motorcycle cases from the 60's and 70's really sucks....they are saturated with oil and loaded with zinc and who knows what else.

    • @cr500_conversions
      @cr500_conversions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@mikerieck306 that zinc is the killer

    • @wtfftw24
      @wtfftw24 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cr500_conversions zinc MUST be removed indeed

  • @b34rcr4ft
    @b34rcr4ft 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    That's a very respectable thing that you did. :)
    When I was younger, I thought I needed to make money fast. But, as I grew older and got my head straight about the fact that my passion is my joy, I started to charge my customers humbly. And guess what? Volume of my clients increased and I just get to keep on working. :)
    Metal working is a very rewarding passion and I am proud to have learned a lot from you

  • @QUICKSHIFTtv
    @QUICKSHIFTtv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    It’s so comforting to know the struggles I have with cast parts is not necessarily my lack of skill. Good video

    • @justanotherdarnell
      @justanotherdarnell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Always good to share what we know with others knowledge is power 😄

    • @ryelor123
      @ryelor123 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welding die-cast parts is like trying to open a factory in a 3rd world country: you may get lucky but most of the time its more trouble than its worth.

    • @ryelor123
      @ryelor123 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justanotherdarnell/videos The issue is die-cast parts. Sand casted and lost-foam parts, from what I understand, don't tend to have the same issues. The problem with die-cast stuff is that its full of pores to a degree. Also the parts might not have the release spray completely removed or it might be slightly embedded in the metal. There's a reason why die-casting hasn't replaced all other alternatives.

  • @CBRpaul
    @CBRpaul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    You’ve gotta be one of the humblest guys out there. Thank you brotha keep up the great work.

    • @nickpowers2528
      @nickpowers2528 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Been there delt with that before many times cleaning acid does help but has to be done more then once

  • @MuzzahA1
    @MuzzahA1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Being a hobby welder you just empowered me with so much quality information and backed it up with images and descriptions. Thank you so much from taking "welding cast aluminium is dirty" to why and how it that way. Demystifying the art of welding cast aluminium. Respect!!!

    • @BlackEpyon
      @BlackEpyon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm also a hobby welder. I sometimes have to repair cracks on my trailer (it's 25 years old), and I've found it nearly impossible to get a clean weld on a crack after it's had a chance to rust (if you don't notice it right away). Laying on extra beads, even adding more steel to reinforce it, may not look pretty, but it sure beats having the weld fail later.

  • @clintparker1881
    @clintparker1881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ran into the same issue with a customer's cast patio table leg that had broken off. I went in thinking "well this will be some easy money". It was my first time messing with cast aluminum and I almost promised it would be my last. I kept thinking I was doing something wrong or my machine was malfunctioning. Just chasing junk, losing gas coverage, and cleaning soot over and over. Had a couple of short hotness issues where I almost lost a chunk of the part while trying to lay down a bead smoothly. Finally got it done, and regretted the whole process. Now after watching this video, I understand just how dirty some casts can be and I don't feel so bad. Thank you!

  • @Pimpmedown
    @Pimpmedown 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    6:10 OH YES!!
    I can tell you that short sentence is soooo important.
    I made so many stupid mistakes in the last year just because i got frustrated (i am trying to start a small woodworking business) and i lost so much time and money to those mistakes....
    at one point it got so bad that i didnt go into my workshop for like a whole month. I came back and for about 3 weeks i didnt have any problem because i was so chill. I learned to take breaks und just think about my problems for several hours while doing other stuff. This is also helping my sleep more than you can imagine.

  • @ZeroFoxENT
    @ZeroFoxENT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Excellent information as always. Its hard to believe this channel started in a 2 car garage with a really cramped setup. Super happy for your success with the channel and the growth of your company.

  • @DCweldingAndArt
    @DCweldingAndArt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is absolutely love that honesty. "Smash that like button so I can make a few bucks back, After doing this part for free" I'd be glad to sir

  • @bfflorida2311
    @bfflorida2311 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My friend you just made mine nightmare experience from 2 year's into great video.... Lol... I had identical problems when I tried to fix mine Yamaha outboard lower case... It was just like you explained... Luckly I had a friend of mine that is professional welder like you and he came over and did exactly that. I just gave up. This video is GOLD... Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge... You are correct, when situation gets heated up, walk away for a while.

  • @MacroGamingStudios
    @MacroGamingStudios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not charging your customer, yet still doing a damn good job is something rare today! Definitely a great thing and that's what keeps customers coming back or brining ya new ones. Keep up the amazing work! You've helped me out with welding things up a ton!!

  • @weldorman8495
    @weldorman8495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Although I have had several castings like these, usually I've found Japanese and German castings to be a dream compared to a lot I've come across. The casting you were working on almost looked like a repaired porous casting that had absorbed oil. That's no fun. Congrats with sticking with it ... and sometimes walking away and taking a break is the best thing you can do.

    • @SergeantExtreme
      @SergeantExtreme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It was from a Suzuki, so you better believe it was the lowest quality part out of any vehicle manufacturer on the face of this planet.

    • @kevinkevinski5101
      @kevinkevinski5101 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SergeantExtreme ever heard of Lada ?

    • @SergeantExtreme
      @SergeantExtreme ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kevinkevinski5101 At least Lada has the excuse of being Soviet owned. Suzuki is a Japanese company, and as such is held to much higher standards (think Honda/Toyota/Subaru).

  • @milehighboost5521
    @milehighboost5521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for posting this. I’m new to welding and was contemplating doing this type of repair to a project car’s cracked aluminum oil pan and slightly corroded aluminum head. Now I’m thinking it might be best to hand it over to someone with more experience so I don’t mess it up.

    • @SteadArcFab_Ministries
      @SteadArcFab_Ministries 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Give it a try! You can’t mess it up! Worse case, you grind it back out 😂👊

    • @ionstorm66
      @ionstorm66 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If it doesn't need to be super strong, just hold oil, braze it.

  • @vanmann8347
    @vanmann8347 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for being honest and showing that even an expert can hit a brick wall.

  • @FreeCandyGuy
    @FreeCandyGuy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Endless respect for not charging the customer. Had to subscribe because of it. Thank you for being an honest man.

  • @kirstenspencer3630
    @kirstenspencer3630 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Had something similar a long while back. Tha part was 5052 marine fuel tank. The aluminum was sooo corroded it would not wet under the arc. Remember the oxide layer MELTING point is over 3500 degrees F. As it was a one off tank and fab a new one was $$$$. I decided to flood the area with filler rod to dilute the oxidation. Of course it took a long while so would stop to allow area to cool to prevent warping. After repeated flushing with filler rod and cooling I was able to establish a weld quality puddle. As I was not happy with recasting the area by " hand " I did not charge him. Welding is just local casting fyi. It held and never gave any problems. My take away was no more salt encrusted aluminum repairs ! Whew! Still remember the intergranular corrosion under my magnified hood.

  • @IAmASonOfABlackMan
    @IAmASonOfABlackMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Outstanding work and work ethic, you're a phenomenal welder

  • @subcoolman
    @subcoolman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not a welder, and I stumbled across this video simple because it was in the "recommendations" (my term) on the RH side of my TH-cam page. Thus, no comments on the welding, but I have to say that you have a voice for radio! Seriously!

  • @sproutandmerc1941
    @sproutandmerc1941 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks so much for this video! So many people only post when everything comes out perfect and goes their way.

  • @BIG_WAVE_RACING
    @BIG_WAVE_RACING 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've been welding castings for a bit and this video made me have flashbacks lol.

  • @Gu1tarZer0
    @Gu1tarZer0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    4:35 my boss taught me this, calls it "buttering up the edge"

  • @timebert6141
    @timebert6141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have used brass before. I have stacked small beads like you did. I appreciate the effort you put into the part. You were honest with the customer and smart money would start looking for a new casting! I say that without any disrespect. You ice skated uphill into a headwind to wrestle a bear at the top of the hill. Some of us been right where you were and truly admire the fact you didn't quit.

  • @dustinwhaley870
    @dustinwhaley870 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a professional mechanic & fabricator, and owner of a suzuki dirtbike and geo tracker, NONE of this surprised me. Good on ya for taking a break to clear your head. Ive been there.

  • @2WheelsSometimes1
    @2WheelsSometimes1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much Justin! It's great to see videos of knowledgeable experts such as yourself, fight and get frustrated with a project and end up do what we learners get grilled into our heads and struggle with. Walk away. Part looks really good.

  • @ricardomontes373
    @ricardomontes373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Hey Justin, I hope that you find a technique on how to weld this type of crack with confidence so that you can charge your customer for the weld and rebuild. On a crack like that, the transfer case ran dry and plenty of damage was done. I come from the auto repair environment and I know that this repair is going to cost a pretty penny. Great video, two thumbs up!

    • @ricardomontes373
      @ricardomontes373 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @The Truth of the Matter Absolutely!

    • @markfryer9880
      @markfryer9880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @The Truth of the Matter Given that the part is soaked with hydrocarbons, would slowly heating the part up in an oven like environment cause the hydrocarbons to in effect sweat out of the metal?

    • @eweunkettles8207
      @eweunkettles8207 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      OXY , ACETYLENE IS THE ANSWER

    • @Decayrate-of-Ravn-Rike
      @Decayrate-of-Ravn-Rike 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markfryer9880 Was about to ask the same question, it seems pretty obvious to bake the part, but maybe that can cause other problems.

    • @bradhaines3142
      @bradhaines3142 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Decayrate-of-Ravn-Rike my guess would be severe warping, its not designed for the heat of an oven

  • @tedmagnum6968
    @tedmagnum6968 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not a pro welder. I'm a motorcycle tech. But I sure as hell charge people to "try" with fixing stuff which really needs to be replaced. Because it's still my time and consumerables. I think your fix is good. I hope my like helps. Loving the channel. Best I've found in a long while.

  • @DukeNukem74
    @DukeNukem74 ปีที่แล้ว

    And that is EXACTLY why I enjoy watching your channel so much. You, sir, are a Legend and a World Champion.

  • @WrenchChill
    @WrenchChill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for making this video!! I've only done cast aluminum welding a couple times, and it has been tricky ever time. The torch/heat trick will be super handy for future projects!! 🙌 - Autumn

  • @bigdaddy741098
    @bigdaddy741098 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I would be interested to know how well it holds up to use, coz the finished repair looked great to my completely untrained inexperienced eyes 🤣👍👊

    • @raulduke85
      @raulduke85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The look of the bead has almost nothing to do with the strenght of the joint, especially on aluminum: you don't have to trust my words; you can cheack a video about this on welding tips and trick, where they illustrate that most of the instagram looking beads are not full penetrated beads

  • @Knotaro_bot
    @Knotaro_bot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    earned another sub for not charging the customer even after the headache. what a dude!!

  • @scout2nut
    @scout2nut 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I worked at a Caterpillar Dealer and talking to one of our senior welders in our engine rebuild shop, he was always dealing with crap aluminum castings, valve covers, oil pans etc. many were so bad that the time to repair cost more than the part and would be scraped, and that was from the number one equipment manufacturer in the world, I had him repair a cracked Subaru wheel for me and he said it was so nice working on good aluminum.

  • @44hawk28
    @44hawk28 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It actually looks like a pretty good Weld, and I actually expect that that weld is a little bit softer than the casting because of the inclusions in the casting. That may prove to be a godsend with the stressors at those points. And allow that casting to actually survive longer. The problem may be that they're using sink within the mix of the aluminum has they cast it. Some Firearms are cats with aluminum and zinc to create a little bit more durable product. But the zinc plays havoc trying to weld. The high fractal structure of aluminum is not fun to play with especially in a casting. My only other suggestion, might have been to mig weld it. It will lay it down without causing some of the reactionary expulsion, but to be fair I've never tried MIG welding that particular type of casting.

  • @mjc2ride336
    @mjc2ride336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I've shared your frustration with castings, but honestly, your weld looked pretty darn good in the end anyway.

    • @PJBonoVox
      @PJBonoVox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Every 'bad weld' video I've ever seen still put my own attempts to shame.

    • @5roundsrapid263
      @5roundsrapid263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Looked good, lots of “dimes” in it!

  • @BeefaloBart
    @BeefaloBart 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The choice to not charge the customer is noble and proves you are a true professional and care about your work and not just the paycheck. This will end up making you more money due to your honesty since the customer will remember that. They will then come back and refer you to friends.

  • @showinUPtoCasuals
    @showinUPtoCasuals 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw the Facebook post from this dude. He broke it installing a cradle. We have repaired these with a torch and aluminum filler rod with lasting success. The last one that was done was a decade ago and is still holding.

  • @UnitSe7en
    @UnitSe7en 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    We call those particles of random stuff _"inclusions."_ - That's where they decided to include a piece of crud.

  • @MeatandTatersGaming54
    @MeatandTatersGaming54 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In the early 2000s I was a welders helper for almost a year working 6 days a week in a shop with 5 professional lifelong welders and another welders helper like myself and when aluminum caterpillar parts would come in for them to weld the shop foreman Scott did most of that welding and at times he would get so pissed off he would throw one of his tools all the way across one of the companies pipe yards or just leave for an hour or two then come back and get the job done. I live in Texas by the way and the company was Patterson UTI.

  • @jimmytodd1269
    @jimmytodd1269 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for posting this video. It took me back to the early days in my welding adventures where I was entrusted with welding cracks and such in parts for Harley-Davidson motorcycles that dated back to 1936 i e a Harley Davidson 36vl etc. The old man who I have to say is perhaps one of the smartest people I've ever known devised a technique of literally baking the component in an old oven at around 400 for a couple of hours.it helped to draw out embedded oil and grime from the pores. Granted I still had to fight at times but once we started doing that it helped a lot.

  • @patrickfougere0001
    @patrickfougere0001 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's really cool of you giving it the good old college try!!! And not charging the customer was a classy move bro! respect....

  • @next0845
    @next0845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’ve done the exact thing in the past! Ended up having a one and a half inch wide weld 😂
    I have seen the job since and it’s holding up fine. I expected it to fracture along the edge of the weld, but all’s good.

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      At what point do you just make a mold and recast the part? 😂

    • @next0845
      @next0845 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MarcosElMalo2 👍

  • @curvs4me
    @curvs4me 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You got through it, I bet it's stronger anyway. T Cases let go when bearings wear and let gears or chain walk up on each other and suddenly bind. Something has to give.

  • @Postcard_Collector
    @Postcard_Collector 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It worked, for the first time ever, you asked for a like and I gave a like.... I feel your pain. I just hope the customer understands where you are coming from

  • @IndieDenma
    @IndieDenma ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a designer and I have no idea why TH-cam thought I like it, but I did, and you sir did a great job!

  • @consaka1
    @consaka1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yeah I've gotten into some stuff that just seems to spiral out of control. I feel yah there.

    • @Flumphinator
      @Flumphinator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *cries in 1984 E30 325e*

  • @chetyoder
    @chetyoder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have seen this on old cast iron, never really knew why, good vid

  • @youria2559
    @youria2559 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    first time ever on youtube, and i´ve been here awhile... that someone makes sense why i should like it, here you are Sir.

  • @REDRUBY170703
    @REDRUBY170703 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am welding a porsche engine block and it is by far the worst casting to weld on that i have come accross and it was stressing me out so this video has helped me out alot thankyou !

  • @peterkennette9865
    @peterkennette9865 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Just like welding outboard lower units! Ten minute jobs take an hour or two. I love your solution of multiple small passes, beats using filler rod to flick junk out of weld pool.

    • @bquade70
      @bquade70 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup 🍻😎.
      Lake Havasu ☀️ AZ

  • @xzouix
    @xzouix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I thought this problem only happens to DIY cast aluminum. Thank you for sharing your experience and tips!

  • @edwardpaulsen1074
    @edwardpaulsen1074 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In a mere 8 minute video, you have succinctly explained a problem that took and embarrassingly long time to figure out about welding both aluminum and iron casting... Thank you SOOOOoooo much for your time and expertise, I **WILL** be recommending this to everyone I know!

  • @ui4lh
    @ui4lh ปีที่แล้ว

    I learned so much from this video. I've been welding a turbo intake piece in my duramax and noticed all the behaviors in the video where when heated, the aluminum all the sudden would just become like a sponge, and by me being so persistant and messing so much with it, I, without knowing, created that solid layer of aluminum and welded good.
    Lol, now I look back and understand what was going on.

  • @alec-s
    @alec-s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    50/50 current ratio and cleaning the pool every now and then with flap disc and you get the job done.
    I weld a lot of that junky stuff!

    • @zuhalfast3388
      @zuhalfast3388 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Add some video man so people can learn. I still can't understand how to setup this frequency, arc balance, start/end etc etc. What I always do was adjusted all that bit by bit till I feel it has a good puddle. Of course it's a time wasting but I haven't found a good teacher.

    • @tke7mu0u
      @tke7mu0u 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@zuhalfast3388 that is the best way to learn what the welder does is by wwlding and adjusting to see what it does on the weld

    • @alec-s
      @alec-s 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tke7mu0u absolutely right man, nobody can give a chart to see amps, you should learn by yourself by trying and wonder wich is the correct amperage for you are going to weld....
      You are doung great Zuhal

  • @brandonoliver1336
    @brandonoliver1336 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The decision not to charge is courageous and sometimes correct, hope this like and comment helps on his behalf!

  • @SKMike7777
    @SKMike7777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As someone who has done alot of welding this was very informative for me. I would have given up on it and have on items in the past. I love how you figured it out and also didnt charge for the repair. Thats speaks loudly at the type of person you are.

  • @sgrasmick82
    @sgrasmick82 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect time to have stumbled on to this video. I was welding a skeg back onto a Yamaha lower unit and ran into the SAME issues.

  • @anthony10370
    @anthony10370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I tried to weld up a pressure washer pump casting. The aluminum looked like melting styrofoam under the torch. I decided on fubar.

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The cheap home gamer pressure washers often use some kind of horrible pot metal for the pump housings, not surprised you had issues.

    • @jasomkovac9115
      @jasomkovac9115 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ferrumignis , really, not sure I'd really call it aluminum. Just enough to make the zinc hard.

  • @splinky99
    @splinky99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sometimes you have to SOAK the part in acetone to degrease it..... the oil can seep into the aluminum and it’s really hard to get out. The cleaning action only works on oxide, not oil.

    • @zuhalfast3388
      @zuhalfast3388 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And sometimes that's gonna be more inefficient if the weld area needs a very big container to fill the acetone

  • @joepierrepierre8104
    @joepierrepierre8104 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not a well experienced tig welder and I'm having that same problem... thanks for the suggestion... gonna try it for sure

  • @maksimb3267
    @maksimb3267 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you I'm a trucker but I like learning this stuff my buddy just had his axle rip off he made it back safely but now that whole section needs to be re welded... a little weld can hold quite a bit of weight it's crazy.. we heavy haul too so it's no joke..

  • @mikescherrer4923
    @mikescherrer4923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was sure it would be a cast Mitsubishi part before I watched haha.

  • @raulduke85
    @raulduke85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Considering that it seems that you are using a tipped 3/32 tungsten, i may argue that things could be easier if you went for a cap shaped 1/8 tungsten bumping up the balance on the positive side

    • @jonathangarzon2798
      @jonathangarzon2798 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's not the issue, aluminum soaks up alot of stuff (water, oils, paints) unlike steel which is more of a coat. That's not even including that the cast itself might be bad quality or a mix by the OEM.
      GM for example has started including iron powder in it's aluminum castings to lengthen mold life

    • @raulduke85
      @raulduke85 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonathangarzon2798 i know pretty well since I work daily with castings: obviously balance won't do anything about oil, paint and other foreign substances contained in the casting itself, but surely will help with the alumina.
      My point, in a repair like this, is that it's a totally non sense to use a torch/parameters setup that you'd use on thin/small clean sheet metal parts. This kind of job is easier and better done if you just set your wave to syn instead of rectangular, if you use an oversized green pure tungsten with a ball tip and bump up as much as possible the balance, oh and also lower down a bit those hz; if the part is trash you defently don't want a crispy arc, but a softer one.
      Penetration is not a problem in these kind of parts, wich is pretty easy to achieve.
      You'll probably have to run some beads, grind them and rerun more beads to clean the matierial, but you'll do it in a easier, faster and more confortable way. Also, welding aluminum not free handing, linked to a support for your arms like he does, looks a bit rookie to me, but that's probably the difference between someone who weld 12 hours per day and someone like him, who don't only weld all the day everyday for living.

  • @Leon-Servant-of-Christ
    @Leon-Servant-of-Christ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's the best repair I've seen on junk AL! Well done Justin!

  • @lordweldatron.9955
    @lordweldatron.9955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had a similar problem repairing underneath a headstock casting on a 88 gsxr 1100 , the oil cooler had come loose and wore a groove in it so went to weld and grind back flush , hit an air pocket underneath and all hell broke loose, just unbelievable amount of oxidised shit came floating up, just a had to keep running over it with plenty of cleaning action , pulsing with the foot pedal and then grinding out the shite had to repeat it about 6-7 times on both sides , it was an absolute nightmare, got it good in the end , for a job that started out as just a cosmetic one! Live and learn I guess .

  • @chrisobrien9334
    @chrisobrien9334 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Almost as bad as trying to weld up a corroded water jacket hole on a cylinder head. Very frustrating lol lol

  • @fsj197811
    @fsj197811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for sharing. Being somewhat LESS than an amateur at TIG, I hope I *NEVER* encounter something like this. If I do, I'll send it to you to play with. Ha! :-)

  • @brianswing5997
    @brianswing5997 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like your professional Outlook of a no charge repair on a non guaranteed repair , and all that shows what we as welders to hold a standard and still give a fixed repair aka band-aid to what we are working with

  • @der_conni
    @der_conni 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for posting, I had those problems last week and just had the idea to search for it on youtube. Was not disappointed.

  • @danielesilvaggi
    @danielesilvaggi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    strength over beauty, sometimes we don't have a choice. lol Oh I can't wait for June 13.

  • @Workmule4ever2day
    @Workmule4ever2day 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well, personally that looks pretty good. I would have charged them. The layering itself is stronger than the casting. High five man

  • @khulekanimoyo8389
    @khulekanimoyo8389 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WOw, luckily for me I saw your video a while back before I new about welding, Did my first weld with DC pulsed Tig 200 on a mag rim, first aluminum repair/test/trial did exactly what you say here and it was for a friend, I solved it a bit differently since DC+Argon, I used 3 full rods pushing them into the pudle and covered the crack and then i grinded down the lumps created, came out nice(ish) better than previous guy did though. I could share a picture but no option. Thanks for all the videos they help a lot. First time Welding for me 😁

  • @andrewcurtin7003
    @andrewcurtin7003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have no idea how to weld, but even with my lack of knowledge i was able to follow along. A wonderfully well made video

  • @Herbybandit
    @Herbybandit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ever get that feeling your trying to weld Swiss cheese?

  • @goodanytimej8688
    @goodanytimej8688 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is awesome! I'm a new CNC machinist, have been in the field for about 2 years and I've been wanting to start learning about welding forever but can never find the time! So glad I found this channel, your a great teacher☺️

  • @mattkunesh9862
    @mattkunesh9862 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to work at a die casting plant and we would impregnate the castings that had a lot of porosity and a high leak rate. The impregnation process was basically to take the parts, put them in a vacuum bath of a solution of water and plastic. The plastic penetrates the casting and solidifies in all of the porosity. It does such a good job it will even fill in threaded holes. On our type you could take a black light and shine it into the holes and it would be purple if there was too much in the threaded holes. I would image this plastic inside of the casting could cause major issues also.

  • @allistairdoeppe
    @allistairdoeppe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have watched a lot of your videos and i have to say i love the amount of detail and terminology you provide when teaching or showing a process a lot of people don't understand the science behind welding and its awesome and super cool to learn keep it up

  • @stevenvandoren3390
    @stevenvandoren3390 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always love to see your content helped me a lot to not ruin parts with bs methods

  • @splays3422
    @splays3422 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watched full video and only liked and subscribed due to him not charging that customer for all them hours of hard work and dedication . You the man 🤘🏾

  • @johnwiza5740
    @johnwiza5740 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a similar issue doing repairs on pressurized talc trailers. they were made of plate and not cast but the previous repairs that someone had done to it were mith an aluminum mig welder running argo-shield mix as opposed to pure argon. this created a highly porous area to weld. Well when the tank was pressurized with the previous repair all that talc got trapped inside the base material and created these trash welds that would just blow open. I worked a ways back from the crack on the clean material and built up my welds moving closer and always cleaning as I went in to keep as little trash in my weld as possible. once that was done I was able to apply a patch plate and finally seal everything up.

  • @MadsWorld34
    @MadsWorld34 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have never done anything like this until a friend gave me a almost new dart block. it was cracked between freeze plugs. and i couldn't find anyone that would even try to fix it for me. i had a tig and the right gas. so after cleaning it over and over. i tried it and it looked great and didn't leak. and 5 or 6 years later i never tried it again. and as far as i know that block is still being used. and pretty sure some of your videos may have helped me do it. because i know it had to be alot of luck on my part.

  • @gregoryboon9902
    @gregoryboon9902 ปีที่แล้ว

    In a pervious profession as an aircraft part fabricator with a major airline, and a Federally Licensed A&P Mechanic, we learned, to be certified by the manufactrerer of the airframe part needing welding, we had to chemically cleam the aluminum part , not just solvently or phisically clean, whether it be of 356 cast alloy or 6061 alloy, prior to welding, with Phosphoric Acid or "Alumiprep". This remdred the part to be soundly and purely welding ready. This eliminated the impurities eliminated that solvent could not.

  • @mr.know_it_all
    @mr.know_it_all 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is cool, I have a lot of transmission cases come through here basically bad designs to handle large power. After I’m done welding the crack, I try to help the area by welding a .060-.120 (depending on the room availability) piece of 5052 over the crack for some added strength.. some parts are just engineered poorly and you can usually see when the next year or generation of transmission comes out what has been redesigned. Awesome videos 🤙🏼

  • @davidshettlesworth1442
    @davidshettlesworth1442 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man! I just got humbled by seeing what you had to do to get the weld done correctly! Great educational video. Thank you, I learned a lot!

  • @rolandspreth1113
    @rolandspreth1113 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pleasant and calm voice. Well done.

  • @thomaspatlan1751
    @thomaspatlan1751 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Walk away is really good advice, I only say this because I tell my rookies the same thing. I've seen enough frustrated results to know that sometimes a breather and calm mind result in better work

  • @OriginalNortad
    @OriginalNortad 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kudos to you about being honest with your customer and not charging him.

  • @sublimationman
    @sublimationman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I was first learning to TIG weld a friend of mine brought me an aluminum tank used on a farm for fertilizer and pesticides, it had developed a hole (from said products), I tried and tried to weld it but the hole kept getting bigger, figuring I was just out of my league, doing something wrong I took it to a friend that was a true artist when it came to welding and he took one look at it and said trash it, you will never weld it as the aluminum had changed properties due to the chemical reactions (we are in a bit of a farming town and he had seen this before) and this is the first time I ever heard him turn down a job. He said I must be getting pretty good since the hole was no larger than it was. Next aluminum job seemed so easy it felt like cheating after trying to weld the un-weldable for hours. I miss my TIG....

  • @elemele4real
    @elemele4real 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't even weld but this guy has a salesman's voice... so I keep watching..

  • @wint3rsmith42
    @wint3rsmith42 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Recently welded an old 1960s Jag inlet manifold and was really surprised how little junk came out, it was a clean weld from the start, a lot different to most I've tried. Great job and very informative video as always, Thanks for sharing.

  • @thejabberwocky7558
    @thejabberwocky7558 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad you shared this! I do custom paint and sometimes we do custom rims and I had a similar issue with a polished aluminum rim after we cleaned very very thoroughly we painted it and heated them up a bit to help the drying process but when we heated them up it caused the aluminum to sweat and of the waxes and oils in the metal out under the paint and it caused it to flake off, luckily we caught it before the customer got it and fixed it, but we learned to heat up aluminum after cleaning to force it to sweat out all the oils and waxes then clean it again and after we did that we've never had issues

  • @micjr21
    @micjr21 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome job. Can't believe you spent all that time n hard work n didn't charge the customer. Good way to get ur customers to spread the word on how great ur company is

  • @Rossco139
    @Rossco139 ปีที่แล้ว

    That intro clip reminds me of the scene I witness under the hood while attempting to weld a cast aluminum oil pan. My first attempt at tig welding aluminum....boy did I learn alot 😂