This video taught me two important things: 1: DMC3 is a technical marvel for how much depth it has while only being a PS2 game 2: I will never be good enough to do anything stylish in DMC3 lol.
u will and you can. honestly most the shit you see on youtube is modded and not practical. the whole combo an enemy into the air if you look only looks cool. I recommend looking into jump canceling with trixter and shotgun for a start. If i can do it so can you. other than that you just need to pace yourself.
@@saltymedpac3943 agreed, you just need to learn the mechanics slowly and practice a lot I have 80 hours on DMC 4 with Nero and I already have done Bloody Palace, it was an entire odyssey, it was hard but I did it, I learned a lot and my playstyle has a huge difference between the start and the end, it was an incredible evolution, honestly I'm very proud of it I'm not good as pros but I really feel like one so, if I can feel like I'm the fucking king of that game even if I'm not the best playing Nero, I know you can get good as you want
one tiny detail i don't think people talk about enough in dmc3 is how vergil sheathing the yamato actually boosts your style ranking it is such a satisfying little thing
One mechanic in dmc 3 that no one really notices is that each weapon on Dante(doesn't happen for Vergil) gives a special effect when you are in devil trigger state, Nevan gives increased healing from devil trigger, Beowulf gives more defense and makes you have more stagger value meaning attacks won't disrupt you as much, cerberus gives you more running speed, agni and rudra gives more damage to their element damage, and rebellion gives stat boosts like damage and speed Also, Vergil is one boss in dmc 3 that you don't want to use high stun value attacks on unless he's in devil trigger so you can knock him out of it, meaning you shouldn't use cerberus against him as it does very little damage while stunning him a lot, when Vergil stun value is reached after attacking him when he's vulnerable, makes him block your attack and start attacking again This is why speedrunners of dmc 3 use Beowulf starfall attack on Vergil if they can as it does the most damage while not having a lot of stun value
Thank you. I took Cerberus into the fight because I didn't take the time to learn Agni & Rudra, so with Rebellion/Cerberus being my weapons for the first fight, and Vergil's new weapon functioning similarly to Rebellion, I felt kind of compelled to intentionally recreate the first fight. ...Obviously, this did not work.
DMC5 doesn't have all these amazing details in both gameplay and aesthetic. They don't make weapons change DT looks anymore, or this you talked about. This is why DMC3 is still the king, plus the gothic art-style and atmospheric music is way more immersive than "LOL PULL MY DEVIL TRIGGERXDDD BURY THE LIGHT D33P WITHINXDD".
@@damsen978 dmc5 and 4 give you devil trigger unique attacks though, something 3 doesn’t have. Vergil has multiple moves he can only use in DT and Dante’s stinger and kick 13 change when you are in DT. Dmc3s DT effects are just stat boosts most won’t notice The gothic atmosphere in 1 also craps on the one in 3 since it was originally supposed to be an RE game.
vergil blocks after 13 melee hits, or after too much time passes people spam killer bee divekick on him because it's a high damage repeatable single hit
@@Aidan8N nope not completely true, just tried spamming high time and helm braker with rebellion only for Vergil to immediately start blocking on like after the 5th hit Once again, stun value on attacks still matter Both helm breaker and high time are meant to juggle enemies into the air and knock enemies over, when using against vergil who can't be knocked over or juggled, all it does is decrease his stun value before he blocks again
One little thing I've always liked about DMC3, is how Dante and Vergil's DT change appearance according to the devil arms they're using. Really cool feature they should've kept it. Edit: Nevermind, i just found out why they change.
I can't believe of how much I'm still learning from DMC3 after all these years. I always wanted to learn how to properly do combos in the game and this video definitely helped increased my knowledge
DMC5 has since became my favourite but nothing will ever top things like emo-scene Dante, giant dogs that literally gatekeep the game from you, guitar swords that shoot bats (along with all the other amazing weapons), the homo-erotic Jester and the brilliantly crafted rivalry between Vergil and Dante. This game has aged perfectly.
*Casual Players:* Uuuuurgh too many numbers let me just do the up slash on the enemy and hit them in the air *Fighting Game players:* Wait, you're telling me this doesn't have hitstun decay or gravity scaling? Everything is cancellable? *Time to cook.*
I genuinely appreciate you taking the time out from pure enjoyable spectacle to put out genuinely informative vids like this. You did a good job going into deeper/not-so-obvious mechanics of DMC 3, providing a clear-cut example and explaining them in terms a layperson could use to wrap their head around. It's some nice educational spice sprinkled on top of the entertainment.
People who say this combat is bad are probably people that praise Souls Combat like hitting one button besides roll everyone once in a while makes you a gift to the planet.
Not only does he do amazing combos and funny af shit posts but he's also got a nice voice. It's also all here, nice work bro! Educational too, I knew this was a thing but didn't know how it worked I'll have to try this out 😀
Its videos like this that make me appreciate DMC as a whole even more than I already do, while also simultaneously understand and begrudgingly accepting why there's so few character action games as is, let alone this air tight. The amount of technical know how behind stuff like this is kinda insane in how deep it goes.
How very specific, despite DMC3 being basically my favourite game of all time, I had no idea about these specific mechanics. Seems so oddly complicated, especially the values as the same could be achieved with less, but I guess having specific moves specifically fine tuned with these specific values allow for more depth. Pretty cool
Thanks for this been struggling with DMC3 recently (although it's mostly a skill issue) and stopped playing it for a short time. A little surreal for me to know about something simple yet highly effective because it feels like the kind of content if you shared or talked about back when the game came out, or a few years after, people would either not believe it or the pros will be eager to test it immediately then feel like the special 1% who possess sacred knowledge on how to be a combo god. This'll be fun to experiment with :)
helpful tip for those who dont have DMC 3 on PC the trial of the warrior will have perma DT'd enemies so you can play with less agressive foes to practice
This was discussed in the dismantling book and forum a long time ago, but after so many years, it is discussed again in the 3rd generation 。You did a good job, not blindly switching styles to reach the combo, but knowing the enemy's armor through the Origin mode, and keep working hard.❤
3:45 I'm making ramen and I set a timer for the water I'm boiling, and it went off right when you said 60. I just thought for a couple seconds you picked an odd sound effect to emphasize "you hit the magic number"
Never knew it was such a complex mechanic. In 4 and 5 i ve realised that i need to hit them few times, when they re downed to get them airbourne, but really i didnt knew why.
You reawakened my love for stylish action games, dude! Thanks to you I went back to finish all the Greek God of War games and marathoned all of Devil May Cry! I would love to see the stylish combos you can do in Ninja Gaiden since I'm marathoning it right now. Keep being stylish, BeeG!
The reason why no one talks about it is because 3% of players playing this game are doing Dante Must Die mode. Hell, I didn't even know that was a mode until this video lopl
Wait, wait, a super combo nerd that doesn't sound horrendous? No way.... not only that, but talking didn't take away from the video, and it still had humor too? Great, this guy knows how to combo AND how to make videos! And educated us all while doing it too! Another great BeeG video, but what else is new?
Finding someone who broke down one of the core pieces of long combos and flashy insanity. Been playing this since I was a kid and now it all makes sense. Thanks for the break down
Kinda not surprised that people outside of DMC forums from back in the day don't know about this mechanic to even talk about it along with other mechanics like Jump Canceling, Buffering, DT Flux/Mini Flux, etc. There was a data table (not sure if it still exists today) that provided each non-boss enemy's Knockaway value both for non-DT and DT along with a numerical value for every attack from Dante and Vergil's move set in order to reach that Knockaway value and everybody had access to it.
The mechanics of this game are amazing. Jump canceling is insane, switching between weapons to cancel the combos, and busting through an enemy’s DT Armor as I call it always felt insanely satisfying when you just juggled them until they explode into sand lmao
I'm about 3 minutes in now and honestly combat isn't the games problem at all The problem is that half the bosses suck and most of the enemies are terrible Bad enemies and terrible bosses make replays a genuine chore instead of something fun to do and THATS the problem this game has
@@BlankBlonk I feel like that goes for a majority of action games. The first playthrough is amazing, then everything after that just turns into you bullying the same bosses until you get bored and put the game down. This is due to action games mostly being about spectacle, and doing cool things in game. Once you’ve already experienced the spectacle, there’s not much else to do.
Crazy how much I can still learn! Even after having cooked the game more than 30+ times, I feel like a noobie sometimes But this is also why I love this game so much. There are so many little details, so many little secrets, so many things to unlock and discover, to explore. It really holds up so well after so many years. The undisputed King not only of DMC games, but of hack 'n slash games ever, possibly. My favorite game of all time
I see, so DMC3 had a secret mechanic in higher difficulties to prevent enemies from being launched too far, while sequels like DMC4 added more area/mobility/enemy control options to the move pools, (Dante's unrestricted Styles and Lucifer, Nero's Devil Bringer and Vergil's new teleport tricks etc.) as well as that momentum system built into that game's engine.
I find this very interesting cause it seems you can do the best combos on Dante must die. Even though they put mechanics in to prevent you from comboing in this mode. Its way different from DMC 4 for example where most enemy jump out of your combos on DMD. Great video!
The editing in this video is great. There's something really pleasing about the babbling sound effect used for the "This game's combat is still air spam," comment.
Ok, so this channel teached me something about my all time fav game that i played until all my controllers broke (no exageration), AND it has Haruhi as pfp? Instant sub
The thing about Dmc 3 is you don't even have to do half as good as these marvelous combos to have fun but knowing that these combos are possible makes it worth a replay everytime. Then in Dmc5 or the Switch remaster allows freestyle mode. I've always practiced using Royal Guard since it's the most OP and I've came from playing Onimusha 3 but ever since I played Dmc3 I thought it would've been great if we can change between styles freely.
I've been waiting for someone to make a comprehensive video on this subject because it's such a hidden tech. Nice job Beeg. This mechanic on top of being underrated give 3's combat more depth than most might realize. DMC5 is great, but I've noticed a lot of the modern fanbase assume 3 doesn't have much depth to its combat simply because it doesn't have as much moves. The classic Truestyle Tournament MAD days of 3 are missed, because they easily prove this wrong. Brea, Blowhard, 475, & Schnee are some great examples of 3's depth, and they're some of the top DMC3 players ever. The cool thing to me is most of the players mentioned & a lot back in the TST era could be this stylish in DMC3, and they didn't even use style switching/freestyle.
I feel like dmc3 must be one of the most underrated games ever because of how deliberate the combat seems to be designed. People say it’s all air combos but it’s not close to that at all, it’s unfortunate that some combo channels only post spammy air combos with repetitive motions that make the game seem much less interesting than it is and this video proves it. The combat is so much more and there’s so much to account for in every single ability. I’ll use a few examples too: most people think air hike is just a double jump but it’s a defensive maneuver and is good for cancelling attacks and combos. Ice age I believe is a way to attack with invulnerability instead of just something useless. Every ability in dmc3 has a place and much more than anything in 4 and 5. Idk, basically what I’m trying to say is that the game is easy to grasp but ridiculously deep and other games don’t do it well. It’s why I don’t love bayonetta or the sequels in dmc after 3. The sequels after 3 had a lot of attacks that felt the same but that doesn’t happen in 3. Big comment but this game is one of my favorite games ever made.
Wow, I didn't know the values worked similarly to other mechanics I've handled. It has a very similar system to the revenge values in Kingdom Hearts, although the DT system in DMD certainly adds a unique flavor into the mix. Regardless, this means I've got some practice to get back to. Always in the lab, always improving. Thank you for the very useful information.
DMC3 is insanely good wtf Also not to be that person but I am: when recording your voiceovers put a little more distance between you and the mic, you'll get less excessive boomies (lowend) and more clear mid-range (the shit that makes people hear words as words)
I just love this game and series. I'm unable to perform complicated combos, my mind just doesn't work fast enough and only managed to beat dmc 3 at hard difficulty but this game is majestic and still my favorite. great video and thanks for the explanation on theese mechanics.
Me: oh boy, there's a hidden mechanic in DMC3? Cool! This might help me to play better! BeeG: Only in DMD mode- Me who's still struggling in Mission 11 Normal Mode: 💀
This is why Dodge Offset was created in Bayonetta, the ability to pause combos for a second to reposition yourself. Not to mention in DMC5 Nero specifically gets his devil bringer jab so that his normally launching attackws can be combo'ed into. Dante and Vergil dont really need it cause in 4 and 5 they properly assigned launcher values to only certain moves and both of them get an easily accessed teleport to get them closer to enemies without breaking the combos. I remember really liking DMD mode becuae you could really combo with it, but with style swiitching being added to the Switch version I found myself still able to pull off longer combos. on normal difficulties and having more fun without worrying about teh death any random hit could bring.
My problem with DMC 3 is definitely a "me" problem that I could solve by installing the trainer to sidestep the issue if I didn't insist on finishing the game with vanilla settings first: _I can't bring myself to hang up Rebellion even though I both suck with it and can't seem to get it to work with Nevan or Beowulf (probably because I suck with it (or more likely just because I suck))_ ~This was posted by the Deadweight Gang
If they ever remake dmc3 they should give you an option to choose between all styles and all devil arms all at once or the original one style and two devil arms, same with yellow and gold orb and turbo-on-off
Thank you for this. The extent of my combo knowledge in this game was Killer Bee spam to get SS ranks on DMD lol. Someday when I actually get a controller that works properly, I may try to do some combos! It was nice of you to stick to the standard 2 Weapons and 2 guns + 1 style set to make those clips :)
Nicely edited video. I've been wondering how DT stun values worked for a long time and you've explained it pretty well. Hope you do some more videos on less obvious DMC3 tech to spread the knowledge on this game
DMC3 was my introduction to hack and slash and was the game that made me fall in love with the series, after playing it I decided to go through every other game in the series, Even DMC2 just for the meme.
This was really a nicely done informative video. I’ve been curious as to the math for a bit so that I can optimize my own runs for DMC3 but I play on a PlayStation and not a computer so I can’t peer into the files. I couldn’t find a source online either, most likely due to my own lack of skill in investigating. Regardless this does help to get me started! Thanks!
Nice vid! Always love to see DMC3 content, to me it proves the game wasn't just nostalgic but something really special I was playing with when I was a kid on my PS2. Also question, how did you get those strange cutscenes, like when you had the sloths Tposing? I want to mod the game to replace the royal guard perfect guard sound with the vine boom but I'm working with strange file extensions and I might need to learn assembly and some crazy ish. I was trying to look for a central community page of dmc3 modders or something but I can't find much. Especially when it comes to modding PS2 games, it's crazy to think that it's relatively new but the architecture isn't fully understood if I remember correctly but idk. Can you point me to some technical folks?
Imagine someone arguing that DMC3 isn't objectively the best game in the franchise. By every single metric that matters it's one of the best games of its entire genre, and most other genres besides, period. The most options for combat, the most variety in different character looks that also actually changed the game. The best writing the genre had ever seen up until that point, and still some of the best it ever would see almost TWENTY YEARS later. In almost any other game, Vergil would have been Angry Fast Katana Guy #1,257,401 and we would have forgotten about him in months. Instead, well. This is the game that saved this franchise, and even as good as 5 was in most respects it couldn't do everything as well as 3 did it. And you don't even have to be this deeply invested in the mechanics to know that.
Great work here, Beeg. I'm innocently watching the vid and I'm like...this sounds familiar! haha - Lookin forward to more of your work!
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This dude talks? Every video I’ve clicked it’s always been a combo 😂
He hired a voice actor
The videos he talks in that I know is
:When a DMC fan play a DMC game for the 1st time and DMC needs better memes and McDonalds wifi combo
Nah he talked before
He talks in combos, if you take only the first letter for every combo names and put it together you form a sentence.
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This video taught me two important things:
1: DMC3 is a technical marvel for how much depth it has while only being a PS2 game
2: I will never be good enough to do anything stylish in DMC3 lol.
The 6th generation of consoles was the best so nah this is normal
u will and you can. honestly most the shit you see on youtube is modded and not practical. the whole combo an enemy into the air if you look only looks cool. I recommend looking into jump canceling with trixter and shotgun for a start. If i can do it so can you. other than that you just need to pace yourself.
@@saltymedpac3943 agreed, you just need to learn the mechanics slowly and practice a lot
I have 80 hours on DMC 4 with Nero and I already have done Bloody Palace, it was an entire odyssey, it was hard but I did it, I learned a lot and my playstyle has a huge difference between the start and the end, it was an incredible evolution, honestly I'm very proud of it
I'm not good as pros but I really feel like one so, if I can feel like I'm the fucking king of that game even if I'm not the best playing Nero, I know you can get good as you want
@@Pilollich. dmc 4 is a pain to learn jump cancel on dmc 3 or 5 aare way easier
Ehh, just play it a few times and you'll grasp the basics.
one tiny detail i don't think people talk about enough in dmc3 is how vergil sheathing the yamato actually boosts your style ranking
it is such a satisfying little thing
Duh, because it's stylish
And dt, which is such a cool and helpful mechanic. Basically getting health and damage for being deliberate and patient.
for a genre called "hack n slash" it sure is a genre that loves rewarding patience.
True, but also happens in DMC 4 and 5
One mechanic in dmc 3 that no one really notices is that each weapon on Dante(doesn't happen for Vergil) gives a special effect when you are in devil trigger state, Nevan gives increased healing from devil trigger, Beowulf gives more defense and makes you have more stagger value meaning attacks won't disrupt you as much, cerberus gives you more running speed, agni and rudra gives more damage to their element damage, and rebellion gives stat boosts like damage and speed
Also, Vergil is one boss in dmc 3 that you don't want to use high stun value attacks on unless he's in devil trigger so you can knock him out of it, meaning you shouldn't use cerberus against him as it does very little damage while stunning him a lot, when Vergil stun value is reached after attacking him when he's vulnerable, makes him block your attack and start attacking again
This is why speedrunners of dmc 3 use Beowulf starfall attack on Vergil if they can as it does the most damage while not having a lot of stun value
Thank you. I took Cerberus into the fight because I didn't take the time to learn Agni & Rudra, so with Rebellion/Cerberus being my weapons for the first fight, and Vergil's new weapon functioning similarly to Rebellion, I felt kind of compelled to intentionally recreate the first fight.
...Obviously, this did not work.
DMC5 doesn't have all these amazing details in both gameplay and aesthetic. They don't make weapons change DT looks anymore, or this you talked about. This is why DMC3 is still the king, plus the gothic art-style and atmospheric music is way more immersive than "LOL PULL MY DEVIL TRIGGERXDDD BURY THE LIGHT D33P WITHINXDD".
@@damsen978 dmc5 and 4 give you devil trigger unique attacks though, something 3 doesn’t have. Vergil has multiple moves he can only use in DT and Dante’s stinger and kick 13 change when you are in DT. Dmc3s DT effects are just stat boosts most won’t notice
The gothic atmosphere in 1 also craps on the one in 3 since it was originally supposed to be an RE game.
vergil blocks after 13 melee hits, or after too much time passes
people spam killer bee divekick on him because it's a high damage repeatable single hit
@@Aidan8N nope not completely true, just tried spamming high time and helm braker with rebellion only for Vergil to immediately start blocking on like after the 5th hit
Once again, stun value on attacks still matter
Both helm breaker and high time are meant to juggle enemies into the air and knock enemies over, when using against vergil who can't be knocked over or juggled, all it does is decrease his stun value before he blocks again
One little thing I've always liked about DMC3, is how Dante and Vergil's DT change appearance according to the devil arms they're using. Really cool feature they should've kept it.
Edit: Nevermind, i just found out why they change.
And we should thank the Shin Megami Tensei artists for that one. To this day i still think the DMC3 DT is the best one
@@ryanrcosta For sure.
If we ever get a dmc 6, i hope they bring that back, would be neat
I could see Nero having different DTs based on his current arm
@@ryanrcosta Kazuma Kaneko is his name. He’s the lead designer for the SMT series (or at least he was) and designed the Devi Triggers for this game.
I can't believe of how much I'm still learning from DMC3 after all these years. I always wanted to learn how to properly do combos in the game and this video definitely helped increased my knowledge
Game: "this aura makes enemies tankier"
Other game player: "damn.. it's gonna be harder to beat them..."
DMC player: "longer combos then"
DMC5 has since became my favourite but nothing will ever top things like emo-scene Dante, giant dogs that literally gatekeep the game from you, guitar swords that shoot bats (along with all the other amazing weapons), the homo-erotic Jester and the brilliantly crafted rivalry between Vergil and Dante. This game has aged perfectly.
*Casual Players:* Uuuuurgh too many numbers let me just do the up slash on the enemy and hit them in the air
*Fighting Game players:* Wait, you're telling me this doesn't have hitstun decay or gravity scaling? Everything is cancellable? *Time to cook.*
This reminds me of learning about Revenge Value in KH2 and being able to maximize opening on bosses cause you know exactly when they'll retaliate
I genuinely appreciate you taking the time out from pure enjoyable spectacle to put out genuinely informative vids like this. You did a good job going into deeper/not-so-obvious mechanics of DMC 3, providing a clear-cut example and explaining them in terms a layperson could use to wrap their head around. It's some nice educational spice sprinkled on top of the entertainment.
Thank you grandpa BeeG for teaching me to challenge my father on Dad Must Die mode and optimizing his knock away value.
People who say this combat is bad are probably people that praise Souls Combat like hitting one button besides roll everyone once in a while makes you a gift to the planet.
Not only does he do amazing combos and funny af shit posts but he's also got a nice voice. It's also all here, nice work bro! Educational too, I knew this was a thing but didn't know how it worked I'll have to try this out 😀
Its videos like this that make me appreciate DMC as a whole even more than I already do, while also simultaneously understand and begrudgingly accepting why there's so few character action games as is, let alone this air tight. The amount of technical know how behind stuff like this is kinda insane in how deep it goes.
How very specific, despite DMC3 being basically my favourite game of all time, I had no idea about these specific mechanics. Seems so oddly complicated, especially the values as the same could be achieved with less, but I guess having specific moves specifically fine tuned with these specific values allow for more depth.
Pretty cool
Thanks for this been struggling with DMC3 recently (although it's mostly a skill issue) and stopped playing it for a short time. A little surreal for me to know about something simple yet highly effective because it feels like the kind of content if you shared or talked about back when the game came out, or a few years after, people would either not believe it or the pros will be eager to test it immediately then feel like the special 1% who possess sacred knowledge on how to be a combo god. This'll be fun to experiment with :)
As a person who has been profusely enjoying dmc3 on switch, especially with style switching and being a Vergil lover, this is opening possibilities =)
helpful tip for those who dont have DMC 3 on PC the trial of the warrior will have perma DT'd enemies so you can play with less agressive foes to practice
Also love your work beeg keep it up
This was discussed in the dismantling book and forum a long time ago, but after so many years, it is discussed again in the 3rd generation 。You did a good job, not blindly switching styles to reach the combo, but knowing the enemy's armor through the Origin mode, and keep working hard.❤
I love the idea that you do constant math in your head as you play like how spider-man does constant math while swinging to swing good
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I'm making ramen and I set a timer for the water I'm boiling, and it went off right when you said 60. I just thought for a couple seconds you picked an odd sound effect to emphasize "you hit the magic number"
Never knew it was such a complex mechanic. In 4 and 5 i ve realised that i need to hit them few times, when they re downed to get them airbourne, but really i didnt knew why.
You reawakened my love for stylish action games, dude! Thanks to you I went back to finish all the Greek God of War games and marathoned all of Devil May Cry! I would love to see the stylish combos you can do in Ninja Gaiden since I'm marathoning it right now. Keep being stylish, BeeG!
Ninja Gaiden isn’t really about combos but you can still look cool in 2 regardless
Probably one of the best videos i've seen so far. This was really helpful and entertaining.
The reason why no one talks about it is because 3% of players playing this game are doing Dante Must Die mode. Hell, I didn't even know that was a mode until this video lopl
Wait, wait, a super combo nerd that doesn't sound horrendous? No way.... not only that, but talking didn't take away from the video, and it still had humor too?
Great, this guy knows how to combo AND how to make videos! And educated us all while doing it too! Another great BeeG video, but what else is new?
I had no idea about any of this, thank you so much for the info! I’m gonna try this myself once I get DmD >:)
I've never played a DMC game before, but this video is awesome.
Finding someone who broke down one of the core pieces of long combos and flashy insanity. Been playing this since I was a kid and now it all makes sense. Thanks for the break down
Kinda not surprised that people outside of DMC forums from back in the day don't know about this mechanic to even talk about it along with other mechanics like Jump Canceling, Buffering, DT Flux/Mini Flux, etc.
There was a data table (not sure if it still exists today) that provided each non-boss enemy's Knockaway value both for non-DT and DT along with a numerical value for every attack from Dante and Vergil's move set in order to reach that Knockaway value and everybody had access to it.
The mechanics of this game are amazing. Jump canceling is insane, switching between weapons to cancel the combos, and busting through an enemy’s DT Armor as I call it always felt insanely satisfying when you just juggled them until they explode into sand lmao
Rare beeg voiceover
I'm about 3 minutes in now and honestly combat isn't the games problem at all
The problem is that half the bosses suck and most of the enemies are terrible
Bad enemies and terrible bosses make replays a genuine chore instead of something fun to do and THATS the problem this game has
@@BlankBlonk I feel like that goes for a majority of action games. The first playthrough is amazing, then everything after that just turns into you bullying the same bosses until you get bored and put the game down. This is due to action games mostly being about spectacle, and doing cool things in game. Once you’ve already experienced the spectacle, there’s not much else to do.
Nice video, man! I wish knew this stuff earlier in my dmd run, woo boy this would things a lot easier.
Crazy how much I can still learn!
Even after having cooked the game more than 30+ times, I feel like a noobie sometimes
But this is also why I love this game so much. There are so many little details, so many little secrets, so many things to unlock and discover, to explore. It really holds up so well after so many years. The undisputed King not only of DMC games, but of hack 'n slash games ever, possibly. My favorite game of all time
your voice is lowkey soothing
amazing visuals and editing too
Beware when the enemy attacks, the Armour they get allows them to complete most attacks even when getting hit.
The editing and music is impeccable as always
Yo this is what BeeG sounds like, cool I love the videos BeeG.
I see, so DMC3 had a secret mechanic in higher difficulties to prevent enemies from being launched too far, while sequels like DMC4 added more area/mobility/enemy control options to the move pools, (Dante's unrestricted Styles and Lucifer, Nero's Devil Bringer and Vergil's new teleport tricks etc.) as well as that momentum system built into that game's engine.
I noticed that eyecatch mimicking the NMH cutscene styled dialogue from Travis Strikes Back and 3, you slick for that!
I’m just surprised to see a vid bout dmc3 in 2023 like wow and the editing too this all feels surreal lol
This actually makes me wanna try DMD on dmc 3.
I find this very interesting cause it seems you can do the best combos on Dante must die. Even though they put mechanics in to prevent you from comboing in this mode. Its way different from DMC 4 for example where most enemy jump out of your combos on DMD. Great video!
No Cap, but that Combo with SwordMaster Agni and Rudra/ Cerberus was freaking awesome. Probably the coolest combo I've seen in DMC 3
“Also lady is not on screen.”
Very true
The editing in this video is great. There's something really pleasing about the babbling sound effect used for the "This game's combat is still air spam," comment.
Thought he was gonna talk about the fear mechanic for a second
As a man who mentally maps out Revenge Values for Kh2 i really liked this video.
I've spent something like 300 hours in this game and still didn't know half of these mechanics you talking about o_O
Ok, so this channel teached me something about my all time fav game that i played until all my controllers broke (no exageration), AND it has Haruhi as pfp? Instant sub
Literally my fav dmc content creator dude is a boss Thank you for this❤️
It felt like I just attended a lecture in "Devil May Cry 3 Combat and Mechanics" and loved every minute of it 😂
man i canno express to you how much i've looked for a good combo video on dmc3 lol..thanks a bunch and you deserve more subs
The thing about Dmc 3 is you don't even have to do half as good as these marvelous combos to have fun but knowing that these combos are possible makes it worth a replay everytime. Then in Dmc5 or the Switch remaster allows freestyle mode. I've always practiced using Royal Guard since it's the most OP and I've came from playing Onimusha 3 but ever since I played Dmc3 I thought it would've been great if we can change between styles freely.
I've been waiting for someone to make a comprehensive video on this subject because it's such a hidden tech. Nice job Beeg. This mechanic on top of being underrated give 3's combat more depth than most might realize. DMC5 is great, but I've noticed a lot of the modern fanbase assume 3 doesn't have much depth to its combat simply because it doesn't have as much moves. The classic Truestyle Tournament MAD days of 3 are missed, because they easily prove this wrong. Brea, Blowhard, 475, & Schnee are some great examples of 3's depth, and they're some of the top DMC3 players ever. The cool thing to me is most of the players mentioned & a lot back in the TST era could be this stylish in DMC3, and they didn't even use style switching/freestyle.
I enjoy watching a video about a game I have never played and never will play. Thank you for the trivia information. 👍🏽
Great video, love the editing and commentary.
Though I will say jump canceling to spam the same air move still urks me when I see DMC combos.
This is really sick.
Beat DMC3 so many times and had no idea this was possible.
Hope you make more vids like this one.
I feel like dmc3 must be one of the most underrated games ever because of how deliberate the combat seems to be designed. People say it’s all air combos but it’s not close to that at all, it’s unfortunate that some combo channels only post spammy air combos with repetitive motions that make the game seem much less interesting than it is and this video proves it. The combat is so much more and there’s so much to account for in every single ability. I’ll use a few examples too: most people think air hike is just a double jump but it’s a defensive maneuver and is good for cancelling attacks and combos. Ice age I believe is a way to attack with invulnerability instead of just something useless. Every ability in dmc3 has a place and much more than anything in 4 and 5.
Idk, basically what I’m trying to say is that the game is easy to grasp but ridiculously deep and other games don’t do it well. It’s why I don’t love bayonetta or the sequels in dmc after 3. The sequels after 3 had a lot of attacks that felt the same but that doesn’t happen in 3. Big comment but this game is one of my favorite games ever made.
Plot twist. I did not have fun.
Literal frame-data built to allow player expression. Peak Game Design.
Rukunetsu? I see you're a man of culture as well
Wow, I didn't know the values worked similarly to other mechanics I've handled. It has a very similar system to the revenge values in Kingdom Hearts, although the DT system in DMD certainly adds a unique flavor into the mix.
Regardless, this means I've got some practice to get back to. Always in the lab, always improving. Thank you for the very useful information.
DMC3 is insanely good wtf
Also not to be that person but I am: when recording your voiceovers put a little more distance between you and the mic, you'll get less excessive boomies (lowend) and more clear mid-range (the shit that makes people hear words as words)
Best content creator. Your music taste and making your characters feel like OP anime characters is why I keep watching.
Great editing and narration dude 🔥
Bro, when that Travis Strikes Again Dialogue and NMH song came in i was like yooo this dude is one of mines!
I definitely wouldn't mind videos like this for other dmc entries like DmC: Devil May Cry which I think is very underrated when it comes to combos
So that's why I'd occasionally lift DT'd enemies up on DMD not knowing why... Thanks, I'll experiment with it later.
The first thing I thought of when I heard your voice was "Alright, who's the sponsor?" But I was pleasantly surprised
I just love this game and series. I'm unable to perform complicated combos, my mind just doesn't work fast enough and only managed to beat dmc 3 at hard difficulty but this game is majestic and still my favorite. great video and thanks for the explanation on theese mechanics.
Thanks for the breakdown, we need more dmc3 combo maestros to actually explain what they are doing
"the combat in this game is just airspam"
*laughs in level 3 royal guard*
DMD players on their way to spend 5 hours making an excel on enemy values just to end up dying to the leviathan's stomach acid:
Ah yes DMC the only series where attempted Sewerslide is the prime way to get stronger.
I love that this video was nothing but positive and educational, not to mention a little funny. Props to you my guy
Me: oh boy, there's a hidden mechanic in DMC3? Cool! This might help me to play better!
BeeG: Only in DMD mode-
Me who's still struggling in Mission 11 Normal Mode: 💀
This is why Dodge Offset was created in Bayonetta, the ability to pause combos for a second to reposition yourself. Not to mention in DMC5 Nero specifically gets his devil bringer jab so that his normally launching attackws can be combo'ed into. Dante and Vergil dont really need it cause in 4 and 5 they properly assigned launcher values to only certain moves and both of them get an easily accessed teleport to get them closer to enemies without breaking the combos. I remember really liking DMD mode becuae you could really combo with it, but with style swiitching being added to the Switch version I found myself still able to pull off longer combos. on normal difficulties and having more fun without worrying about teh death any random hit could bring.
reminds me of learning fighting game frame data a bit, pretty cool
Then I need to get dmd mode, so the grind continues yet again
My problem with DMC 3 is definitely a "me" problem that I could solve by installing the trainer to sidestep the issue if I didn't insist on finishing the game with vanilla settings first: _I can't bring myself to hang up Rebellion even though I both suck with it and can't seem to get it to work with Nevan or Beowulf (probably because I suck with it (or more likely just because I suck))_
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If they ever remake dmc3 they should give you an option to choose between all styles and all devil arms all at once or the original one style and two devil arms, same with yellow and gold orb and turbo-on-off
Yes finally, persona music that isnt butterfly kiss or layer cake. Respect
Thank you for this. The extent of my combo knowledge in this game was Killer Bee spam to get SS ranks on DMD lol. Someday when I actually get a controller that works properly, I may try to do some combos! It was nice of you to stick to the standard 2 Weapons and 2 guns + 1 style set to make those clips :)
The best DMC strikes again
This isn’t dmc1 though
I may not have taken a math class in 6 years but these calculations were juicy as heck
I wanna play DMC 3 again, damnit BeeG💀
Oh my god BeeG can talk 😲🤯⁉️
Now I'm Definitely Motivated 😎
Please make more videos like this. I love your voice ❤
Bro this is crazy how have I never heard of this. Thanks big dog
Nicely edited video. I've been wondering how DT stun values worked for a long time and you've explained it pretty well. Hope you do some more videos on less obvious DMC3 tech to spread the knowledge on this game
DMC3 was my introduction to hack and slash and was the game that made me fall in love with the series, after playing it I decided to go through every other game in the series, Even DMC2 just for the meme.
This was really a nicely done informative video. I’ve been curious as to the math for a bit so that I can optimize my own runs for DMC3 but I play on a PlayStation and not a computer so I can’t peer into the files. I couldn’t find a source online either, most likely due to my own lack of skill in investigating.
Regardless this does help to get me started!
Thanks!
Nice vid! Always love to see DMC3 content, to me it proves the game wasn't just nostalgic but something really special I was playing with when I was a kid on my PS2. Also question, how did you get those strange cutscenes, like when you had the sloths Tposing? I want to mod the game to replace the royal guard perfect guard sound with the vine boom but I'm working with strange file extensions and I might need to learn assembly and some crazy ish. I was trying to look for a central community page of dmc3 modders or something but I can't find much. Especially when it comes to modding PS2 games, it's crazy to think that it's relatively new but the architecture isn't fully understood if I remember correctly but idk. Can you point me to some technical folks?
Bro knows Rukunetsu, man of culture indeed.
Wanna thank my older sister for putting me on DMC3
Imagine someone arguing that DMC3 isn't objectively the best game in the franchise.
By every single metric that matters it's one of the best games of its entire genre, and most other genres besides, period. The most options for combat, the most variety in different character looks that also actually changed the game. The best writing the genre had ever seen up until that point, and still some of the best it ever would see almost TWENTY YEARS later.
In almost any other game, Vergil would have been Angry Fast Katana Guy #1,257,401 and we would have forgotten about him in months. Instead, well.
This is the game that saved this franchise, and even as good as 5 was in most respects it couldn't do everything as well as 3 did it.
And you don't even have to be this deeply invested in the mechanics to know that.
Tutorials from BeeG ? HELL YEAH !(I still dont know how to combo)