Imagine being Kevin Lane, thrown in jail for a crime you didnt commit and not only having to deal with that but having to live up to your reputation as being a hitman, and still rising to the top, that takes proper character
well stick to hearing about it my friend as very dangerous mixing with them yes decent but very dangerous and unhinged folk who react over the slightest thing and like Ricky i speak from experience
280. i grew up with a young gary nelson. i know people very well who moved with him. when they all got locked up as young uns the majority turned their back on that life. gn turned into a warlord. in his prime he had certain man gripped with fear. i'm new subscriber. you present your channel without any bombastic hype. your humility tells me you are official 🥇💯👌🏾
I was in Whitemore cat A from 2005-2008,I was there with Kevin and many other very dangerous men,The only man to ever make me feel scared of even being near was a s.a.s guy that was on the wing with us,Double cuffed everywhere he went,Screws was scared of him. He frightened me to my soul,Never met another person who made me shit myself. Cat A was fun times yet madness at time's
Great content and your subs are flying up and no wonder with the great stuff you pump out and as for Andy shacklady yes he's a hard bloke but also supposed to be a very generous and fare bloke what I've heard of
as an ex screw Andy was on my wing for sometime and was a big character but as you said he was very fair and we used to have some great banter and laughs
Bigup Ricky keep up the cracking content I remember being in hindley young offenders with Andy shack when he escaped over the wall must of been 85 to 88 late eighties can’t remember the exact year but yeah remember it well
I know Colin , and I'll tell you this I remember when he took out 6 to 7 blokes and 2 doormen , hard as nails, they always looked after the old folks, they felt safe with the brothers Colin and is brother dave around, but cross them well that's another story,
@@melvynbev2827Colin is big, he’s definitely hard but he’s not as accomplished a fighter as Andy Shack for example. He’d definitely lose in a fight against Shacks
Because your honest my friend. Much better than these so called podcasters. No more decent villains anymore and the ones who think they are, talk out of school. Keep inside information inside 🤫
What happens when you get out of prison after a mid to long stint do you still get a state pension as you haven’t been able to pay into the system. Do the government make allowances for this.
i met colin and david gunn when they were on trial at birmingham crown court i was the dock officer colin and david were verey respectful to me we had great banta they were with lots of cat a officers
I have mixed feelings about Slaney. Mates of his will tell you that he was not an angel (the biggest euphemism you ever hear) and people I know thought he was capable of murder but even Private Eye magazine printed that he took the rap for someone else. Ramsey something or other. I don't know either of them, I don't move in those circles and to be honest, I'm glad I don't.
Love the content Ricky. Did you see that David Beiber has just gotten a second Life sentence for attempted murder dropped to section 18 on a screwess all because he e wanted shipping back to Bellmarsh? Mad bastard indeed.
@@Behindbars-PrisonTV Looking at the strict license conditions given to Curtis Warren I'm feeling that a recall is almost unavoidable. Its obvious the authorities still want their pound of flesh. I've heard before that the power of customs had pull over the bizzys. Do you think they are harsh or are they pretty standard for high profile convicted dealers?
Sir you should set up a Boxing School and/or Gym for young offenders to keep them out of trouble. They would highly respect you and listen to you to keep out of wrong doings avoiding Prison.
Ricky many years ago a heard a story about a fight in prison A dont know which one Lee Duffy fighting am sure it was Kevin Lane? Anyway the story goes Lane sparked Duffy with one punch 👊 It was along time ago and a may be mistaken Nice one Ricky 👍
@@Pablo-sr2zx yes, a see what you mean 🤐 Kevin was triple cat A prisoner down south av just watched the documentary Ricky recommend on channel 5 last week on Belmarsh Prison Kevin was in it talking about his time there and the security measures ect A thought he came across very well The whole thing was a good watch
👍 a good mate of mine from that area had his IPP case sent down to London Infront of lord cheif justice. He was in a jail with no courses for him and just parked up. He got out though bud👍
@@Behindbars-PrisonTV he was mate it was a test case I think with the lord justice due to the unavailability of courses for inmates to complete to accommodate there release. He's been out years now. Hard working lad who never gets in bother nowadays. Never see he really but is one of those mates who you dunt have to see cos we'll always be pals if u know what I mean
Kevin lane is not a cockney, cockneys are born under the bells of the “st Mary le bow church” in Cheapside (not Bow), basically certain parts of North, East and South East London only, they are the true cockneys. The rest are Londoners. Kevin lane isn’t even London.
Yeah Andy shack there’s been some hard scousers in the prison system Paul Harding ,sam cole ,Brian Schumacher ,Jojo Collins some other big names who was in the prison system
It is clear the mentioned Cat A hardmen prisoners can look after themselves. I just wonder how hard it is for them mentally to do a long stretch in prison. How does anyone get their head round knowing they are locked up for twenty years or more?
Great story teller m8 but there's only so much prison things u can talk about man you should switch it up and around and talk about other things respect man 💯🙏😉💪💙
There's plenty of prison stuff to talk about mate, it's what the viewers want, I've tried other but doesn't get the views, the podcasts every Sunday are always different, cheers pal
@@Behindbars-PrisonTV No bother pal I understand wat ur saying and fareplay to you I'd say you have completely changed your life and that is powerful keep up the good work you come across as a good bloke and sound and wat you see is wat you get and big respect to u m8 💯💪🙏💙 onwards and upwards Ricky pal👊👍😉
It’s called behind the bars what you want him to talk about? all the prison stuff is big at the min it pulls in the views for him so he earns a bit of money
I didn't love the prison life at all but I actually cut his hair in Durham he was in abox in a room he stuck his head through a trap door hole inside the metal box he was in it was not a way to treat a person and I wasn't allowed to talk to him very sad situation
@@bagpuss9285 Why can't white guys never just accept a L 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. He got dropped, end of story and was never the same after that. You Know and I know thats the case
You are white though😂.but dc wouldn't have lasted a minute in a square go with Slaney .but suppose it takes bottle to even try an sneak him whereas many wouldn't even dare do that ..I know that dc was a dangerous character too..they are all in there lol
Errol John Hiebner.. that's the name that pops up from most old lags and old screws I've spoken to. Cat A for 20 of his 25 year stretch.... if you know you know
@Behind the Bars TV - Ricky Killeen Definitely mate, I don't think people quite grasp the difference in levels. Also the difference between tough and outright dangerous. Cheers for the reply.
Warren slaney is a hard man but he is also a nice bloke if you don’t bother him he won’t bother you always has bigger fish to fry sound man live not to far from his family years ago
Do you know why Warren slanely and Gary Nelson had beef rick? 🤔 I done my research the both serious people bro that would be murder if Gary never got shipped 🚢
@@excakehauler1381 Paul sykes wanted no part of slaney. Warren slaney over the years is the most feared man in the system. They encountered a few times paul was known to be on edge around him
@@No-Radar I've heard these rumours before. Fact is Warren never threw a punch, same as Bill the Bomb never did. Roy Shaw had two goes, lost both times. Sykes would be well past his best by the time Slaney met him but still nothing happened. That says it all.
@Behind the Bars TV - Ricky Killeen never beard of him so he must be from Bolton. All the main lads from Leeds are either in Rampton hospital or in the ground its sad to say. Keep it up tho bro love to hear your story's. Also I met David beiber when I was younger with my dad as my dad was painting his flat in roundhay leeds before his arrest. 👍
Imagine being Kevin Lane, thrown in jail for a crime you didnt commit and not only having to deal with that but having to live up to your reputation as being a hitman, and still rising to the top, that takes proper character
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Same with Slaney
Kev's the real deal mate
Ricky congratulations on starting this great channel.u r a natural story teller.i only found this channel yesterday and I am gripped.
Thanks and welcome
Ronnie Pickering should definitely be mentioned here
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Nah Ronnie is such a threat to the prison regime that he's double Cat A for the other prisoners own protection. That's a serious dangerous dude indeed
@@dontfeedthetroll294 apparently Ronnie snapped the window bars of his pad n made earrings for his missus 😃
@@Richard-pu5nq 😂😂😂
Don't forget about The Wealdstone Raider.
When Ricky talks I listen massive respect to you mate keep winning bro
Loved this bit of content bro ,love hearing about REAL dangerous men in the system,
Cheers bro
well stick to hearing about it my friend as very dangerous mixing with them yes decent but very dangerous and unhinged folk who react over the slightest thing and like Ricky i speak from experience
Good video mate. I speak to Kevin Lane quite a bit.
He's got a show coming up in two weeks.
Keep up the good work 🥊
Cheers mate, Kevs coming on my podcast aswel, he's a good bloke
Gary Nelson aka Tyson is from Clapham Junction SW London
He Shot A Police officer in Clapham
Brilliant content mate some excellent story's keep them coming mate 👍
Cheers mate
280. i grew up with a young gary nelson. i know people very well who moved with him. when they all got locked up as young uns the majority turned their back on that life. gn turned into a warlord. in his prime he had certain man gripped with fear.
i'm new subscriber. you present your channel without any bombastic hype.
your humility tells me you are official
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I was in Whitemore cat A from 2005-2008,I was there with Kevin and many other very dangerous men,The only man to ever make me feel scared of even being near was a s.a.s guy that was on the wing with us,Double cuffed everywhere he went,Screws was scared of him.
He frightened me to my soul,Never met another person who made me shit myself.
Cat A was fun times yet madness at time's
What was his name?
I'm shite with names,but I think his 2nd name was Waterhouse
That a film called the rock 😂😂😂😂
@@willuammurray4470 No retard
@@willuammurray4470 “The Rock has become a tourist attraction?” 🤣🤣🤣
Great content and your subs are flying up and no wonder with the great stuff you pump out and as for Andy shacklady yes he's a hard bloke but also supposed to be a very generous and fare bloke what I've heard of
Cheers pal 👍
@@Behindbars-PrisonTV Do you know Andy Adams?
@@Behindbars-PrisonTV Do you know Andy Adams? Geordie fella?
Shaks was all over Preston back in the day, and a man called Zarkie. BADMEN
as an ex screw Andy was on my wing for sometime and was a big character but as you said he was very fair and we used to have some great banter and laughs
Worry about the ones you never hear about.
Bigup Ricky keep up the cracking content I remember being in hindley young offenders with Andy shack when he escaped over the wall must of been 85 to 88 late eighties can’t remember the exact year but yeah remember it well
Thank you Ricky I hope you are well mate and look forward to your podcast with me once you’ve read my book mate to allow you content to discuss 🥊👌
I will be in touch mate and arrange it 👍
@@Behindbars-PrisonTV there nothing on me
Great videos mate really interesting I appreciate the fact that you don’t particularly glorify it but these are real men
Top man top doc n top channel respect Ricky as always brother 👏
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WARREN SLANEY OUT OF ALL THE GUYS MENTIONED. DEFINITELY NO 1.
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He's definitely up there but one man I would definitely put above him from what I've heard people taking about Colin Gunn
Colin gunn 3,4 th with Andy shacks. Slaney for me .
I know Colin , and I'll tell you this I remember when he took out 6 to 7 blokes and 2 doormen , hard as nails, they always looked after the old folks, they felt safe with the brothers Colin and is brother dave around, but cross them well that's another story,
@@melvynbev2827Colin is big, he’s definitely hard but he’s not as accomplished a fighter as Andy Shack for example. He’d definitely lose in a fight against Shacks
Because your honest my friend. Much better than these so called podcasters. No more decent villains anymore and the ones who think they are, talk out of school. Keep inside information inside 🤫
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Can't wait till you do some content on Warren Slayney bro hear abut about him over here
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Over where?
What happens when you get out of prison after a mid to long stint do you still get a state pension as you haven’t been able to pay into the system. Do the government make allowances for this.
Good vid Ricky pal . Always a good watch mate
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i met colin and david gunn when they were on trial at birmingham crown court i was the dock officer colin and david were verey respectful to me we had great banta they were with lots of cat a officers
Warren Slaney for one good friend
Proper good videos these mate!
Good stuff mate 👍
Have you heard of or come across John Grey from Manchester?
Don't think do mate
Yammy bs greatest of all time is John gray
Isn’t he Scottish but moved to Manchester ?
No-yammys greatest of all time are (bill the bomb Williams) and (Warren slaney). 👍 After them he rates Andy Shacklady right up there too. ✊
I have mixed feelings about Slaney. Mates of his will tell you that he was not an angel (the biggest euphemism you ever hear) and people I know thought he was capable of murder but even Private Eye magazine printed that he took the rap for someone else. Ramsey something or other. I don't know either of them, I don't move in those circles and to be honest, I'm glad I don't.
Love the content Ricky. Did you see that David Beiber has just gotten a second Life sentence for attempted murder dropped to section 18 on a screwess all because he e wanted shipping back to Bellmarsh? Mad bastard indeed.
I seen mate, I'm going to do another updated more in depth video on him soon
@@Behindbars-PrisonTV good stuff Ricky lad
@@billycarter747 👍👍💯
@@Behindbars-PrisonTV Looking at the strict license conditions given to Curtis Warren I'm feeling that a recall is almost unavoidable. Its obvious the authorities still want their pound of flesh. I've heard before that the power of customs had pull over the bizzys. Do you think they are harsh or are they pretty standard for high profile convicted dealers?
@@billycarter747 it's harsh mate but that's what they do so they can't live ordinary life after prison, it's a piss take really
Sir you should set up a Boxing School and/or Gym for young offenders to keep them out of trouble. They would highly respect you and listen to you to keep out of wrong doings avoiding Prison.
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Great content mate keep it coming ❤
Hardest man i met.Billy Williams Canning Town,boxing background!
Ricky many years ago a heard a story about a fight in prison
A dont know which one
Lee Duffy fighting am sure it was Kevin Lane?
Anyway the story goes Lane sparked Duffy with one punch 👊
It was along time ago and a may be mistaken
Nice one Ricky 👍
I think you are mistaken as Kevin was a cat A prisoner in the 90s which Lee was never a cat A
Somebody else I believe
Maybe it was Gary Nelson that Kevin gave a slap
Not true 😂😂😂
@@Pablo-sr2zx yes, a see what you mean 🤐
Kevin was triple cat A prisoner down south
av just watched the documentary Ricky recommend on channel 5 last week on Belmarsh Prison
Kevin was in it talking about his time there and the security measures ect
A thought he came across very well
The whole thing was a good watch
Tony argent is good 1 👍🤓
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Ray isn't happy about this 😂😂😂😂😂
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Who Ray bong bong?
Kevin lane also convicted of a murder he didn't commit same as warren. Good podcast ricky always like your videos keep it up
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Kevs got a film in the pipeline
Are there any prisons said to be haunted or had a paranormal experience?
Ayup rick hope all's well. Were you in with any lads from the Wakefield area
Just Sharpie from that way mate, few from Leeds and Bradford
👍 a good mate of mine from that area had his IPP case sent down to London Infront of lord cheif justice. He was in a jail with no courses for him and just parked up. He got out though bud👍
@@sportsrealist did he mate, nice one, bet he was buzzing
@@Behindbars-PrisonTV he was mate it was a test case I think with the lord justice due to the unavailability of courses for inmates to complete to accommodate there release. He's been out years now. Hard working lad who never gets in bother nowadays. Never see he really but is one of those mates who you dunt have to see cos we'll always be pals if u know what I mean
@@sportsrealist defo mate, ask him if he wants to come on and share his story
I am from Wimbledon me and my mates the rest of the wombles are well known in the 80s 👍
I was in Full Sutton with Gary Nelson in 2004. I have never seen no one like Gary.
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WARREN SLANEY OVER GARY N
Warren is always mentioned I remember reading one of Charlie Brandon's books and he said how tough he was!
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Can you remember which book that is?
@@seasonedfortreasoned1963 I wish I could remember pal I've read so many of his books they're all worth a look at and have plenty of stories
@@shaunyshaun86 I've got most,not all Charlie's books in a holdall in the attack.im gonna get em down again I think🤔🤔
@@darrenhems2291 mate if ya find out which one it is let me know 👌
Kevin lane is not a cockney, cockneys are born under the bells of the “st Mary le bow church” in Cheapside (not Bow), basically certain parts of North, East and South East London only, they are the true cockneys. The rest are Londoners. Kevin lane isn’t even London.
Andy shack is from skemsdale I'm sure
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He from Liverpool moved to skem when he was a kid
Yeah Andy shack there’s been some hard scousers in the prison system Paul Harding ,sam cole ,Brian Schumacher ,Jojo Collins some other big names who was in the prison system
Brilliant Rick keep it up son 👍
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Love all the prison. Story. Fascinating.
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Ricky, did you ever come across Stuart and David Greener from the North-East?
I didn't mate
Hey Rick I heard that Gary Nelson used to bodyguard Mike Tyson when he was in the uk, do you know if they any truth in this mate safe. 👊
True mate
Free Woz!
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Was Tony argent in the list
Just watched on that Nelson then on his crimewatch appeal
Met Shack when he was a YP. Stoke Heath.
It is clear the mentioned Cat A hardmen prisoners can look after themselves. I just wonder how hard it is for them mentally to do a long stretch in prison. How does anyone get their head round knowing they are locked up for twenty years or more?
I've done a video on it called "how do prisoners adjust to a life sentence "
@@Behindbars-PrisonTV Thanks for that. I'll have a look.
@@dave2261some can’t some just accept it
Watch Razor Smiths James English podcast. 32 years spent inside. He explains it well
@@theapavlou3030Timestamp for this conversation pls?
Great story teller m8 but there's only so much prison things u can talk about man you should switch it up and around and talk about other things respect man 💯🙏😉💪💙
There's plenty of prison stuff to talk about mate, it's what the viewers want, I've tried other but doesn't get the views, the podcasts every Sunday are always different, cheers pal
@@Behindbars-PrisonTV No bother pal I understand wat ur saying and fareplay to you I'd say you have completely changed your life and that is powerful keep up the good work you come across as a good bloke and sound and wat you see is wat you get and big respect to u m8 💯💪🙏💙 onwards and upwards Ricky pal👊👍😉
@@irishsky9304 thanks pal, appreciate it 🙏🙏💙
It’s called behind the bars what you want him to talk about? all the prison stuff is big at the min it pulls in the views for him so he earns a bit of money
This podcast is called behind the bars for a reason
Kevin Lane was on Shaun Attwoods podcast, fascinating fella.
I've listened to every podcast KL has done.Thyre all pretty much exactly the same obviously cus its his story but I could listen to him all day.
@@darrenhems2291 he is some fella!
He's coming on mine soon
@@Behindbars-PrisonTV what a guest to have on!
Look forward to that 1 Ricky!
@@Behindbars-PrisonTV il look forward to that pal.try and make it a long one.😉👍
I read about a bloke called Mark Robinson in Bronsons book...you heard of him mate
Havnt mate
John gray should definitely be mentioned here
U.missed me out ricky lol no jokes brother
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Great video Ricky ill have to show our kid..
Tony B
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I didn't love the prison life at all but I actually cut his hair in Durham he was in abox in a room he stuck his head through a trap door hole inside the metal box he was in it was not a way to treat a person and I wasn't allowed to talk to him very sad situation
Which prisoner was that mate?
@@bagpuss9285 Charlie Bronson
Australia watching 😊
Please Don't forget Daniel 'DC' Cummings and the fact he finished off Slaney.
Sneaked him from behind you mean?
@@bagpuss9285 Why can't white guys never just accept a L 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. He got dropped, end of story and was never the same after that. You Know and I know thats the case
You are white though😂.but dc wouldn't have lasted a minute in a square go with Slaney .but suppose it takes bottle to even try an sneak him whereas many wouldn't even dare do that ..I know that dc was a dangerous character too..they are all in there lol
Daniel cummin couldn’t fight 😂😂sly dig people ye he couldn’t fight
He slyed a 50 year old slaney that’s it.
Did u meet an officer in frankland called Phil walker?
Not that I remember
Who remember screws names??
I met tony b in cat c. He was my next door neighbour. Definitely a very dangerous guy. I beleive hes out now
Aye he'll be out now, good bloke aswel though
Ricky Respect ✊
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You and yammy should link up yammy does same thing
Doing a podcast with him soon
Love the storys 👌
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Ever heard of quincy thwaites or Gary nelson
Yes I've heard of Quincy and Gary Nelson I mention in this video
Hi Rick is it true Kevin lane has been recalled back to prision 😮?
True yes
Heard of stephen miller , the caveman , even bronson feared him
No not heard of him
Bronson feared many men
Did u ever meet lee Duffy mate
I didn't mate unfortunately
Lee Duffy had died a number of years before Ricky had ever went to prison for the 1st time
Howah the toon pet.
Ricky did you ever meet John (mutts) Murray in frankland mate
I didn't mate
you forgot to mention me 😀 Do these men fight, confront each other?
Yes, some do
ricky can i ask do you daddy reeace he was in frankland
I no a few decent Leicester lads and Your man always had a good name more so than Ramsey.
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Alright Ricky 👍
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Errol John Hiebner.. that's the name that pops up from most old lags and old screws I've spoken to. Cat A for 20 of his 25 year stretch.... if you know you know
Ricky, did you get to meet any tough North East lads whilst doing your time?
Met plenty but not in there league
@Behind the Bars TV - Ricky Killeen Definitely mate, I don't think people quite grasp the difference in levels. Also the difference between tough and outright dangerous. Cheers for the reply.
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@@Behindbars-PrisonTV who's hardest officer
None mate,
Would’ve been nice to have some visuals onscreen for these guys. Maybe just a pic or news clipping or something. Good video though 👍
Next time 👍👍💯
Frank birley rip he was at the top
Frank and Warren were close
Frank warren
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If you're permitted to display photos off these guy's it would be great to put a face to them.
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Just Google them.
So who the hardest slanney or Nelson
Slaney
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Obviously Warren. Gary was a shoota. Allegedly. Slaney been fighting since he was a young un. Gary could have a fight though
Danny Reece ?
Warren slaney is a hard man but he is also a nice bloke if you don’t bother him he won’t bother you always has bigger fish to fry sound man live not to far from his family years ago
No castigador??
He wasn't hard just dangerous
Cat walk kev 👍🤓👌☘️
What about tony argent great video
Didn't meet him mate
tony argent for me
Do you know why Warren slanely and Gary Nelson had beef rick? 🤔 I done my research the both serious people bro that would be murder if Gary never got shipped 🚢
Not quite sure tbh mate
Warren hated him from the start kicked off in lartin with johno Warren Sam cole Gary tomo etc that’s where it originated from
Al the guys got £££
You're doing well Ricky
Now a little bird told me you weren't much of a fighter when it come to it.
keV is NOT a cockney Rick
Mosley
Vick dark?
Shaglady 😮
Ronnie pickering??
💤💤💤💤 flogging a dead horse
Did you come across ashy
Aye he was in same time as me on G. Wing
Paul ash ?
@O3 paul Ashton he was in for 26 stretch from Tyneside
@@jimmyoconnell6167 ye slaney planted one on his chin and Paul took it nicely to be fair
@@No-Radar he didn't budge
KEEP THM COMIN M8T BANGN CONTENT & THE GLASGOW MAN CALLED BIRDMAN LIFER DOING A 2O WRECK THANKS IF U CAN
2 DO SOME CONTENT ABOOT BIRDMAN
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danny reeace
I know Danny Reay from Sunderland
Danny Reece aka Woodsy from east London ?
Everybody afraid of a skinny bloke, 5' 8", really? imagine what Paul Sykes would have done to him 😂
You have lost your mind 😂😂
Paul sykes was petrified of Warren when they met
@@No-Radar Really? Tell me more.
@@excakehauler1381 Paul sykes wanted no part of slaney. Warren slaney over the years is the most feared man in the system. They encountered a few times paul was known to be on edge around him
@@No-Radar I've heard these rumours before. Fact is Warren never threw a punch, same as Bill the Bomb never did. Roy Shaw had two goes, lost both times. Sykes would be well past his best by the time Slaney met him but still nothing happened. That says it all.
Who cares?
You met any cat a lads from Leeds??? What about Dennis slade?? 👍
Yes mate, was on same wing for couple years, good lad
@Behind the Bars TV - Ricky Killeen yeah he is down to earth and respectfull. Any other leeds lads? There's not many cat a from Leeds tbh
@@DannyLeeds no mate, John Barber but he Bolton a think
@Behind the Bars TV - Ricky Killeen never beard of him so he must be from Bolton. All the main lads from Leeds are either in Rampton hospital or in the ground its sad to say. Keep it up tho bro love to hear your story's. Also I met David beiber when I was younger with my dad as my dad was painting his flat in roundhay leeds before his arrest. 👍