I don't know if I'm comfortable paying Leica price for an espresso machine that just mainly looks pretty and old school compared to other capable dual boiler machines at less than half the price
Thank you for the video. I am seriously thinking about buying one of those but I am just curious why would you use 17 Graham basket and put 18 g of coffee?
Pricey, yes, but when you think about it, this machine is a lifetime investment. You buy this machine and theoretically you never have to buy another espresso machine again, just keep fixing this one when something goes wrong.
I own an ECM Synchronika. Except for the slightly nicer design of the Marzocco (which is my opinion, but still quite arguable, since the classic ECM E61 machine is also pretty nice): Does this machine offer anything the ECM does not offer? Or in other words: Would I gain any real world imrpovement if I „upgraded“ from the Syncronika to the Linea Mini?
@@alexzigky8728what about temperature control? The LMLM is NSF certified and has better temperature stability than the ECM Sym. This all makes it a sound option for a small cafe setting. But for home use, the Syn offers things the LMLM doesn’t like pressure profiling? Which you can also get on the LMLM if you mod it. You likely wont pressure profile in a commercial setting though.
Great video. I have the LM and I am struggling extracting a good espresso without channeling in the puck using the bottomless portafilter. Have you tried that with success or could you give me some advice on how to reduce channeling?. I have a Ceado e37s grinder and I dose 18 grams in and 26 grams out in a 17 gram basket. Thanks in advance!
Blzt wouldn’t non-adjustable pre-infusion be less hands on? Most La Marzocco machines I’ve used had a more pre-programmed feel to them. I prefer my machines to be more quickly adjustable.
That’s quite a big drink, takes a lot of steam to get it up to temperature - you could get away with a couple (I presume) but you run the risk of using steam faster than the machine can make more. It wouldn’t be a problem if the machine had some time to recover in between though.
I've got an apartamento and think that literally the only reason to pay double+ for the Linea is looks. Some features on it, like where the reservoir is located, actually suck a lot more on the Linea. Granted I am a home barista and do not need a plumbed machine for 3-4 shots per day.
@@howdyitsdavid The plus of the reservoir on the bottom is the water won't get warm. My Bianca has the reservoir external to the machine and I like that. My old HX machine had the water internal and it would get warm from the boiler and it would get funky over time.
BsOnK1969 i have a scm sunchronika that this guys dont sell but it is a beuty dual boiler Plummabale Etc but it $3,500 it has a screen to show u temps Too that dial Seems very cheap For such an expensive machine
I have owned a rocket and how have a linea mini and the steaming power is a other lever and the linea mini is a bit more consistent but that clearly don’t worth double the price. It’s all about the grinder and de barista. I can put stunning shot from a gaggia classic with a good grinder.
that machine is legit the holy grail, of home espresso, and im going to buy my self one when i purchase my first home one day, and a house warm gift to myself
Daniel Hendricks I‘m not sure. I really don‘t know the big improvement I would get from this machine if I traded my ECM Synchronika in. I asked the question somewhere in here, maybe someone can give me a good point that the LM really does better. Still it does not offer any flow control, it has a „paddle“ which is not really a paddle but only an on/off switch. If you really look for the holy grail, take a look at LaMarzocco‘s GS-3 MP with its real paddle. That would be the true holy grail, where I really see the benefit over a but dual boiler E61 machine.
Thorsten Latz Lelit Bianca if you want flow control. I’ve asked a lot of people, and nobody can give me tangible details about what la Marzocco actually brings to the table besides brand name and aesthetics. In terms of functionality alone, the price is ridiculous. (Also, is it not incredibly frustrating to anyone else that they used a paddle to implement an on-off switch? Like...why?? So it *looks* like it has flow control? From a workflow perspective, that switch has no benefits over a simple toggle switch)
@@danmetzler7687 Yeah, that fake paddle flow switch is bizarre. Also agreed it's ridiculously overpriced. It should be in the $3000 range. Maybe $3500 cause of the name.
Worth considering at $3000. At $5600, this is ridiculously overpriced. Rocket R58 looks better and is better laid out for better workflow. The paddle is pointless and basically fake. It's a giant on/off switch.
too fussy on water minerals. it'll choke like a princess if its not just the right balance of h2o mineralization. this sort of analism is a massive fail. my 10 yr old la scala butterfly made espresso just as good without the princessism on Linea. So pass. this mini is just for fools with more money the sense.
It's just flat-out overpriced. There are many better machines at half this price. Someone at La Marzocco thinks their success in the commercial space means they can charge double for home users. Influencers get them at steep discounts and those are honestly the only people I know who own one.
@@jcasetnl : no way, check the coffee forums.....LOTS of LMLM users. But they do things a bit different than most other companies. Everything is stainless steel, portafilter, frame and body, boilers, screws etc. Resale is very good too. Worth it? That's personal, I'm on the fence personally. I have wanted a La Marzocco for 20 years.....and now I can buy one because they now have single group machines. I had a two group Faema once, but it was a bit much :)
I don't know why I torture myself looking at videos of stuff I could *technically* afford but would probably make my wife really angry
Hypothetically speaking could you get rid of this wife in exchange for an espresso machine?
WX: wife exchange espresso machine
Good news, I don't have a wife that'll get angry. Bad news, I can't afford it.
I don't have to deal with a wife or husband, but I need to stop torturing myself with these too because my bank is going to divorce me lol
@@jgvazquez14 lol
I’m calling on everyone at Seattle Coffee Gear to please pitch in and buy John a new shirt! Am I asking for too much?
Ah well. I had to at least try.
Would love to see how this and a ecm sunchronika stack up
I don't know if I'm comfortable paying Leica price for an espresso machine that just mainly looks pretty and old school compared to other capable dual boiler machines at less than half the price
Thank you for the video. I am seriously thinking about buying one of those but I am just curious why would you use 17 Graham basket and put 18 g of coffee?
Pricey, yes, but when you think about it, this machine is a lifetime investment. You buy this machine and theoretically you never have to buy another espresso machine again, just keep fixing this one when something goes wrong.
Quality over quantity 💯😁
Love this guy! So informative and great to watch
How does it compared to the Nuova Simonelli Oscar 2?
What size coffee tamper are you using? And does it come with the machine or did you have to order it separately?
Hello! The tamper is for a 58mm portafilter. The machine does come with one!
can linea mini good for commercial use?
What was the setup of the weighing the portafilter? I have a linea mini but I only measure the basket. Don’t see how you balance the portafilter.
I own an ECM Synchronika. Except for the slightly nicer design of the Marzocco (which is my opinion, but still quite arguable, since the classic ECM E61 machine is also pretty nice): Does this machine offer anything the ECM does not offer?
Or in other words: Would I gain any real world imrpovement if I „upgraded“ from the Syncronika to the Linea Mini?
As much as i love LM honestly.. no. The answer is no. You would get no real world improvement
Having same thoughts. Have you upgraded?
@@alexzigky8728what about temperature control? The LMLM is NSF certified and has better temperature stability than the ECM Sym. This all makes it a sound option for a small cafe setting. But for home use, the Syn offers things the LMLM doesn’t like pressure profiling? Which you can also get on the LMLM if you mod it. You likely wont pressure profile in a commercial setting though.
Great video. I have the LM and I am struggling extracting a good espresso without channeling in the puck using the bottomless portafilter. Have you tried that with success or could you give me some advice on how to reduce channeling?. I have a Ceado e37s grinder and I dose 18 grams in and 26 grams out in a 17 gram basket. Thanks in advance!
Have you tried something like a The Jack Leveler? th-cam.com/video/eKXh2-4OPTI/w-d-xo.html
Grind coarser or use a WDT tool
how many bars of pressure in extracting perfect coffee??
Hi John, How does it compare to the GS3 for light commercial use? And how long the brew boiler (the grouphead) take time to recover?
Check chris baca's video
Great video - anyone catch that nice trill on "there?" 1:55/12:36
Kinda surprised that there’s no adjustment for pre-infusion on a $4900 home machine.
That's part of their philosophy. Everything is hands on. Don't get a la marzoco if you don't want a new hobby lol
Blzt wouldn’t non-adjustable pre-infusion be less hands on? Most La Marzocco machines I’ve used had a more pre-programmed feel to them. I prefer my machines to be more quickly adjustable.
Pre brew times are adjustable with the connected app now (on newer machines and retrofits with the new board)
More than over $5.000 actually
Which cup size did you use for the cappuccino at the end?
The coffee dude sounded exactly like Tobey Maguire!
Is the 17 grs basket for one or two shots?
The Lamborghini of home expresso.
More like Aston 🤔
That was an important almost-not-mentioned comment, it is not flow control, just a on-off switch for brewing.
Do you think Linea Mini can be use in a pop up but a very high traffic pop up event?
We usually don't recommend the Linea Mini for commercial use!
@@SeattleCoffeeGearwhat machine do you recommend for light commercial use? Medium traffic
What espresso roast was used here?
Can you go into more detail why you wouldn’t recommend the use of 16-20 oz milk drinks back to back?
That’s quite a big drink, takes a lot of steam to get it up to temperature - you could get away with a couple (I presume) but you run the risk of using steam faster than the machine can make more. It wouldn’t be a problem if the machine had some time to recover in between though.
Non insulated steam arm on a machine that expensive?! Makes no sense
what scale is that?
It'd be interesting to see this go up against the Ascaso Baby T Plus
If this machine was at least $3000 I could at the least consider buying it 😭
This machine is at least $3000, actually some more. ;)
Is that brew valve able to adjust pressure?
Is this model connected with smartphone App?
Yup. It does
How much this mashine
The machine is $4900. How does the machines around $2500 -rockets, ecm, etc- compares with the linea?
I've got an apartamento and think that literally the only reason to pay double+ for the Linea is looks. Some features on it, like where the reservoir is located, actually suck a lot more on the Linea. Granted I am a home barista and do not need a plumbed machine for 3-4 shots per day.
@@howdyitsdavid The plus of the reservoir on the bottom is the water won't get warm. My Bianca has the reservoir external to the machine and I like that. My old HX machine had the water internal and it would get warm from the boiler and it would get funky over time.
BsOnK1969 i have a scm sunchronika that this guys dont sell but it is a beuty dual boiler
Plummabale
Etc but it $3,500 it has a screen to show u temps
Too that dial
Seems very cheap
For such an expensive machine
I have owned a rocket and how have a linea mini and the steaming power is a other lever and the linea mini is a bit more consistent but that clearly don’t worth double the price. It’s all about the grinder and de barista. I can put stunning shot from a gaggia classic with a good grinder.
kenny drole which rocket u owned? Hx or dual boiler? Am curious to know to compare steaming power
So 199 is a little bit under 200?
by a dollar!
the part where he said if you are pouring 20oz cups.... 20oz? fuck me thats huuuuuuge. my large is 12oz
Brb, trying to win the lottery.
38grams out in each cup, or in total?
Total, you don't want to drink watery espresso
Give us the GS3 manual paddle video!
that machine is legit the holy grail, of home espresso, and im going to buy my self one when i purchase my first home one day, and a house warm gift to myself
Daniel Hendricks I‘m not sure. I really don‘t know the big improvement I would get from this machine if I traded my ECM Synchronika in. I asked the question somewhere in here, maybe someone can give me a good point that the LM really does better.
Still it does not offer any flow control, it has a „paddle“ which is not really a paddle but only an on/off switch.
If you really look for the holy grail, take a look at LaMarzocco‘s GS-3 MP with its real paddle. That would be the true holy grail, where I really see the benefit over a but dual boiler E61 machine.
Thorsten Latz Lelit Bianca if you want flow control. I’ve asked a lot of people, and nobody can give me tangible details about what la Marzocco actually brings to the table besides brand name and aesthetics. In terms of functionality alone, the price is ridiculous. (Also, is it not incredibly frustrating to anyone else that they used a paddle to implement an on-off switch? Like...why?? So it *looks* like it has flow control? From a workflow perspective, that switch has no benefits over a simple toggle switch)
@@danmetzler7687 many competitive baristas loves it though
@@danmetzler7687 Yeah, that fake paddle flow switch is bizarre. Also agreed it's ridiculously overpriced. It should be in the $3000 range. Maybe $3500 cause of the name.
Also, your like the opposite of Clementine.
Now, that is a different looking machine.
1.55 there 😂
can I get information for that tamping station?
Looks like the cafelat corner tamping mat, but there are plenty of similar ones out there
Worth considering at $3000. At $5600, this is ridiculously overpriced. Rocket R58 looks better and is better laid out for better workflow. The paddle is pointless and basically fake. It's a giant on/off switch.
I own an R58 (cinquantotto, the new one)....workflow is shit. Terrible layout. Worst machine I have owned. I hope to trade in for a Linea.
Great content but it would have been nice to have seen the cul pouring from the other side lol.
And guys it comes in white color
Guess what in 2021 they increase the price from $4.900 to $5.400 ... expect soon to be close to $6.000
It's so beautiful it makes your voice crack like a 12 year old boy...multiple times. +_+
1:55 3:57 11:14 LOL!
so beautiful
a good barist can pull a great shot on almost any machine
Where's Gail
Maybe somewhere else because he is a better barista
Retired
Sad.
Shit i thought he’s with nas daily
That’s way expensive.
Hello
, it's me..
too fussy on water minerals. it'll choke like a princess if its not just the right balance of h2o mineralization. this sort of analism is a massive fail. my 10 yr old la scala butterfly made espresso just as good without the princessism on Linea. So pass. this mini is just for fools with more money the sense.
Bit pricey at $6k, I’m afraid my addiction is only at the few hundred dollar mark at this stage
get back to us in a year haha
You get the gaggia classic pro!? Perfect machine for a few hundred!
It's just flat-out overpriced. There are many better machines at half this price. Someone at La Marzocco thinks their success in the commercial space means they can charge double for home users. Influencers get them at steep discounts and those are honestly the only people I know who own one.
@@jcasetnl : no way, check the coffee forums.....LOTS of LMLM users. But they do things a bit different than most other companies. Everything is stainless steel, portafilter, frame and body, boilers, screws etc. Resale is very good too. Worth it? That's personal, I'm on the fence personally. I have wanted a La Marzocco for 20 years.....and now I can buy one because they now have single group machines. I had a two group Faema once, but it was a bit much :)
He’s yummy
👍🏾👍🏾
I SAID THE FRANKE A1000
HOW IS THAT YOU GUYS CANT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING😂
K 5
It’s okay just fuck ur self
K 5
Lol sorry I did not mean to be rude.....