Race The Tube - Can You Walk Faster Than The Piccadilly line?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- The distance between Leicester Square and Covent Garden Tube stations is just 270 metres, so that does mean it's quicker to walk it than to take the train?
We tried an experiement simulating if you were coming down the Northern Line heading for Covent Garden - should you change to the Piccadilly Line or just get out at Leicester Square and walk?
The map used in this video is the incredible 'Carto Metro' you can download that here: carto.metro.fre...
Also, as Covent Garden is the most heavily used deep-level station served solely by lifts on the Tube, TfL themselves once tried to encourage people in 2005 (in a campaign called "Don't Follow the Crowd") to NOT take the train to Covent Garden, here's their press release: tfl.gov.uk/inf...
Professional London commuting. Knowing which tube door opens by the Exit
He wrote the app!
Gold Star Professional London commuting: Knowing which "No Entry" stairwell to take to get to platform faster eg: Tott. Court Rd to Central. And "never change here" eg: Charing Cross Bakerloo to Northern. Holy jeepers, they should put in a bus service.
It should be public knowledge though. Displays and boards could show this info to encourage passengers to walk a bit further earlier and spread the train and station load more evenly. This is done more prominently in Japan.
Koverpy exactly, in Japan this is pretty much standard on the busier routes
Even more professional if you know where to stand on the platform to get on the train at the right door
Geoff avoiding 15 floors of steps, good choice there, Sir.
Storeys even. I hope you saw his video on that, it's amazing :D.
@@gojenson I was wondering why on earth everyone was taking the escalator at Marylebone. I just arrived there from Stansted, backpack, suitcase. started the stairs, then looked up. I didn't give up obviously.
I’m so glad you filled us that’s hilarious 😂
The stairs at Covent Garden are no joke
@@tvlhd If you live or work nearby, you have to climb them once in your life. It's a rite of passage. But only when you are young. Not to be attempted by the over...er 15 years of age, say.... Chuckle.
It has to be done ... honestly...
Oh...and do take essential supplies...hot strong tea, sustaining sandwiches, oxygen...that sort of thing.
I admit : My Oyster journey history for today looks very strange!
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Geoff Marshall I went to Covent Garden
Yes
Is South Ealing Northfield shortest outdoor stations ?
You should organise the TfL Triathlon which is a combination of Tube, Walking and Bus. Competitors have to get between two points in the fastest time using all three modes of transport ;-)
This would be an interesting competition, you dedicate a start and end point, must do all 3 types but as a connection between 1 tube station and another so no like riding a bus one stop and coming back, or walking 50 feet then walking back, before you get to the end destination, but must arrive at the end destination by tube,.
@@hotohori69 i want to watch that.
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tobortine
East Croydon to Amersham.
@@hotohori69 In Portland, Oregon, they have a 4T "Trail" that includes 4 modes of transportation:
www.travelportland.com/article/4t-trail/
As a Londoner I can guarantee that them talking and filming on the tube will have made the other passengers extremely uncomfortable 😂
Tube users are always in their own world. And everyone's so used to TV crews, TH-camrs and tourists with video cameras and narration that again no one bats an eyelid.
@@davidjames579 Not true at all.
@@liamhiggins70 Mate! tourists do video diaries to upload to Instagram, so this is pretty commonplace.
@@davidjames579 I work in the hotel industry. I can tell you for sure they do not do this. Taking photos on the phone or a small DSLR is different.
@@liamhiggins70 You haven't seen what I've seen.
This reminded me of one of those old school Top Gear races, I'd love to see you recreate one of those, tube vs car vs bike vs boat across London!
Richard Lartey yes! Would definitely be awesome if they recreated the car vs public transport vs boat race to London City Airport
@@Spermwhales93 yes! and a Heathrow version once the Angry Lizzy line is open.
I’d like to see a race of different routes. (Example Bakerloo vs Jubilee, Baker Street to Waterloo)
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There was a race between 3 of them to elephant and castle a while ago... that was good. How about clockwise vs anti clock wise on the overground from Clapham Junction to the theoretical mid point in the north?
Only Geoff could come up with such a mad idea and make it work so well. Brilliant!
193 stairs = a 15 story building
I cant believe he did that over the speaker. lol
@Wayne Herby Well you would wouldnt you.
Time stamp?
@@Alex__Butcher 5:03
It's an automated announcement to encourage you to take the lift. This station really _is_ a fifteen-storey building.
@@K-o-R Nah, it's more like a 10-storey-building.
Why not do the reverse direction as a trial too (rather than going all the way to TCR to restart)? It's the same ground to cover, just in the opposite direction.
No it isn't
No practical use - you can't change lines at Covent Garden so there's no reason to get off an walk. If you're already on the Piccadilly line it'll be quicker to get off at Leicester Square, but the only way this "hack" could be practically utilised is if you're changing trains at Leicester Square to go one stop.
I see no reason why TRC was utilized at all.
@@disphoto Yeah, this is the decision in question here.
@@toni4729 The question is: if you're *already* in the Northern Line part of Leicester Square station, should you exit the station and walk or should you change to the Piccadilly Line to take a train to Covent Garden?
I'm the stupid tourist that traveled from Leicester square to Covent garden
I actually took that journey. My feet were killing me, but in hindsight, it was probably easier to walk. And I had a Travelcard, so I didn't really care about the fare.
OlofTheOrange I did this with a paper ticket, I had a travel card with me although my dad had it, so I got a paper ticket. Long story involving football, McDonald’s, and hurting legs
A Classic "it's really windy" popped in there :)
You make the most interesting/boring videos ever. So weird. But I keep watching.
Brian McGuinness that’s a good way of saying it literally a video of people walking around London with monotone voices but I stayed to the end
Agreed, same here. I think it's because he's a charming nerd.
It's a plain topic but it's pretty interesting!
I love your videos, they are always so informative and interesting.
You know, neither informative nor interesting are words that spring to mind about this one. Entertaining does, yes, but mostly I'd go with "why?". ;-)
Dedication 3 times. Good for people in nz who love the tube and london in general. Get to notice more if you see it 3 times. Thanks.
If TfL haven't managed to find your Oyster cards to filter out of demand calculations and similar by now, they're getting further justification today!
Could you explain? Thanks
@@valvlog4665 TfL use anonymised journey records linked to people's Oyster, Freedom Pass and contactless cards to understand usage of the network. Geoff's usage will be far from representative of a typical user but, in practice, will be lost in the statistical noise.
@@DavidWood2 Got it. Yes, Geoff doing 3 journeys from TCR to Cov. Gdn and back in 2 hrs looks super weird.
It wouldn’t surprise me if Jeff’s card was flagged for possible miss use at some point
@@almostanengineer or its logged in the system as being that of a transport vlogger and this is perfectly normal
I've actually often got off at Leicester Square and walked to Covent Garden even if already on the Piccadilly Line (Eastbound), especially if going to somewhere other than the Tube station, e.g., if you're going to the market itself or to some restaurant or theatre. The reason is that the lifts at Covent Garden are horrendously slow, particularly on busy days, so the escalators at Leicester Square save you a lot of time. Would have liked to see you two run a trial on that.
You're never really have to wait for the underground!
3:39 It literally looks like that man is about to rob her...
Nice profile picture.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that!
I'm pretty sure I've just spent more time watching this video than I can ever hope to regain by utilising the knowledge gleaned. Still think it was worth it!
What about Waterloo to Southwark? You can walk along the Waterloo East platform.
Canada water to rotherhithe, on the overground is really short aswell. On the platform at canada water you can actually see rotherhithes station
I'm sure there's so many other Tube experiments like this to be done
He's done some.
I've done this. Got on the tube at Covent Garden and off again at Leicester Square.
But are the escalators at Leicester Square the length of 15 floors?
That greyed out Crossrail sign looked almost embarrassed for itself.
I've watched too many of your videos when I hear the announcement saying "equivalent to a 15 storey building" and laugh at it 😂
Would have been interesting to do in the rush hour: more people on the street, and (perhaps) more frequent trains.. The results could have been different.
Try do Charing Cross To embankment
Vivid Louie Animates ROTFLMAO!!!
Timewise I feel that to be shorter than Covent Garden Leicester Square. Waterloo-Southwark is a quick one as well.
Charing cross to embankment on a skateboard is about 10 seconds but also a death wish going down that hill😂😂
If we're talking exterior of station to exterior of station, I'd say C Cross to Embankment is quicker than L Square to C Garden.
Now this is classic Geoff Marshall stuff I signed up for!
"its really windy..." and just like that, back on top of snaefell on the isle of man...
Can't believe the Covent Garden M&S is gone no reason to rush up the stairs now haha
5:04 The decals are backwards on the doors; it should look like there are yellow -- not black -- spikes to harm you if you block the doors.
There's no spikes on the door
Katie Young it represents spikes. It’s trying to trick your brain.
@@itstrain7248 ohhhhh makes sense
😂 Sorry its 2 am where I live and my brain is asleep
In standard (non-highway!) triangular hazard warning signs - e.g. as shown above the 'spikes', the background colour is yellow. I guess if this principle is carried forward to the depiction of 'spikes' they are correctly shown black against a yellow background.
@@caitlingroves2053 now I'm imagining if the doors genuinely did have spikes instead of just the picture... that would be pretty intense.
I am glad I am not the only person who thinks London Transport minutes have little in common with minutes on timepieces.
It also makes a difference if you get out from the right carriage and door to connect.
If the weather is ghastly, I would take the train, and sod the "lost" seconds.
Well done geoff for not going up the stairs
I thought the shortest distance would be Ruislip Manor and Ruislip but ok
I was too busy humming the theme to 'Fame'! Lol!
Trains! I wanna ride them forever
Get off at each station and count...
Stairs!
Document each of my journeys...
You get it. Anyway, the Picadilly was the main train I used, from Heathrow all the up near Wood Green (if I remember correctly) because the airb&b was right nearby. In fact, I noticed I was in the middle of another station and near 3 Sisters.
Thanks to this experiment, I hope people visiting will see that some of these stops are mere walking distances from each other, and, if it is a nice day and you have time and want to sightsee or something...just walk. Unless you have a distance to go, a lot of things to carry or something of that nature, why not take the tube.
Don't do what I once did. Having explored the Covent Garden market, I explored up Neal St. and a street market in Earlham St.. I then returned to Covent Garden tube station and thought about where to go next. How about Charing Cross Road? Nearest Tube station: Tottenham Court Road. So I did that. Exploring down the south end, I saw a small street market. It seemed to be selling the same sort of clothes as in that other street market. Then I noticed that I'd only gone and done a big loop!
0:01 covent garden enterence
2:21 Tottenham court Road northern line platform
2:27 northern line Tottenham court road to leicester square
3:21 Leicester square Piccadilly line platform
3:50 Piccadilly line Leicester square to covent garden
4:44 covent garden walk through to exit
6:09 Tottenham court Road northern line platform
6:17 Northern line Tottenham court Road to Leicester Square
7:05 Leicester square Piccadilly line platform
7:58 Piccadilly line Leicester square to covent garden
8:07 Covent Garden walk through to exit
9:01 Tottenham court Road northern line platform
9:11 northern line Tottenham court Road to Leicester square
10:07 Leicester square Piccadilly line platform
10:43 Piccadilly line Leicester square to covent garden
10:54 Covent garden walk through to exit
I used to work in Covent Garden and always used to get off at Leicester Square and walk because it always felt a tiny bit quicker and was less stressful than the lifts at Covent Garden, especially at peak times. O and to tell a little story of tube nativity when I first worked in London - in Covent Garden - I decided to nip from our offices to Forbidden Planet, which was then on New Bond Street. So, being an idiot I got on at Covent Garden, changed to the Northern Line at Leicester Square and got off at Tottenham Court Road and walked the last bit. At which point it dawned on me that it would have been quicker and less of a pain to have walked it.
The real question though - is the 75% chance of being slower worth it if it's pissing rain outside? 🤔
Unfortunately that is the difference between living in a rural area and a urban area. In a rural area no one would care less over 5 minutes, the world can wait for you. That should be the same in a urban area, but sadly isn't...
I think the comparison method used in this video is quite practical, so once again, well done Geoff. Although the walking might not be very recommendable on a sunny summer day.
And lucky that Geoff for waiting for just 4 for his longest try. I had to wait for *20* for my Picc trip last time.
Geoff avoiding 15 floors of steps good choice there keep making more videos and Great work
Loving this vids, keep up the great work, Geoff.
You should have done Queensway to Bayswater!
I thought Embankment to Charing cross will be closest station to each other both on the northern line
The important question is how did you both get back to TCR each time? Walk down Long Acre etc or use Covent Garden? That would prove to me the best option!
Love your channel man. Great stuff!
Also Charing Cross to Embankment is 31 seconds when heading south. I timed it yesterday
TfL are gonna be so confused by your journey history!
The interesting point would be how far you have to walk to make the connection at Leicester Square
It's usually quicker to walk between any of the central stations - surface to surface - often for up to three stops. Try it!
Charring Cross to Oxford Circus: it's quicker to walk!
Now now nigel dont be a billy bullshinner
@@johnsmith-wx5fb try it then! It may not work every time, but it certainly has for me. And no running was involved.
Sure....the walk from Oxford Circus to Holborn saves time if heading back to Liverpool Street.
It's a good 15-20 minute walk from those two stations, and around 10 on the Tube
True. I often travel between 2northdown and The Bill Murray and there’s not a lot of difference between walking and the train because you have to walk back to kings cross, get down to the platform, wait for a train then get out of Angel, plus you’ve not got to pay if you walk.
Where can I get a map like that? I have really poor eyesight and Google Maps is basically unusable now because none of the roads have these outlines and the text is tiny. I love the map you used at 0:55
That map can be found at: carto.metro.free.fr/cartes/metro-tram-london/index.php?gpslat=51.505951&gpslon=-0.101642&zoom=2
carto.metro.free.fr/metro-london/
Woohoo! Another Geoff vid! I thought that Chancery Lane to Holborn was the shortest journey, learn something new I guess
I reckon if you're a slow walker, e.g. mobility issues, it's probably quicker to get the tube (or if you accidentally go the wrong way 😂)
Most people say it still isn’t worthwhile because of all the walking within the stations.
So, if the weather in London is terrible, take the Tube. Otherwise walk it. Yes, I've gone more out of my way to stay out of rain or heat.
What is the worst pair of tube stations to travel between by train vs walking? I think Wood Lane and White City would be a contender..
if you include overground, camden town and camden road. euston square and warren street perhaps. or paddington (bakerloo) to paddington (circle) .. maybe there is a whole section of "worst ways to get to the station you are already in"
My view is Park Royal to Hanger Lane. There was a plan to build an interchange station there but it seems to have died when Metronet PPP committed suicide.
Hammersmith to Hammersmith is a long way by train as well.
Kenton to Northwick Park
I really like Geoff’s shirt.
Haha a 4 minute wait on the picadilly is so short. I either switch to the picadilly or walk from Holborn to covent garden for work and I only take the picadilly when it's raining outside or really late. Way faster to walk when you just miss a train and the next is in 6 ☹️
This is always an interning dilemma.
I always think it is better to have your fate in your own hands. eg walk and not rely on waiting for the tube. By walking you can pretty much know how long it will take.
Also I personally prefer to keep moving rather than standing around waiting.
I think as a rule if you are changing and only going one stop you are better off getting out at the station (where you are making the change) rather than make a change and go one stop. There are exceptions to this like Finburya Park - changing from Victoria to Piccadilly where you walk across the platform to change.
One thing when changing or exiting is obviously positioning yourself in the correct carriage to the exit or interchange tunnel you need. Walking the length of a platform can take a minute - especially in the rush hour.
The dilemma I had a couple of weeks ago when I was going from Kings X to Marylebone station. Was I better to get out at Baker Street and walk or change to the Bakerloo?
May London Underground should tell people to go Leicester Square for Covent Garden instead of Holborn and walk to Covent Garden to save using the lifts.
They do. They have signs at the nearby stations saying that covent garden is a 10 minute max walk so don't take the train there in peak hours.
the journey between Leicester Square and Covent Garden is not only the most expensive train journey in London, but is in fact the most expensive train journey in the world!
Can you do another “race the tube” from Mile End to Bow Road or Stepney green because if you just walk down the road, you get to those 3 stations
Sometimes, visiting London on a Chiltern train, if I want something other than the Bakerloo, I'll walk to Baker Street instead of getting the Bakerloo for 1 stop from Marylebone. That is, unless it's raining.
Leicester Square to covent garden might be the fastest journey on the tube, but surely Charing cross to embankment is a much shorter distance walking? The station entrances are basically next to each other!
Embankment tube station is next to Charing Cross main line station, but the closest exit to Charing Cross tube station is on Strand.
100k Views already! Great achievement
Geoff should do if against, but you take the stairs at Covent Garden 😄
good job advoiding 193 steps a 15 storey building
when we came back to the UK in June, we used the steps at Covent Garden....i lost count of the steps in total, as i wanted to confirm the number, but having made it to the top, we were not going to do it again
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Geoff's fingers are so long and his lips so red, he might be an Aeon Flux character.
how did you two have the energy to make this trip 3 times? LOL I would have said "nah and got myself an ice-cream or something haha".. but thanks for your video!! i can see why you did this experiment
It would be a way longer to walk (and overground not underground) but you can see Rotherhithe Station from the platform at Canada Water
Quicker to walk, but easier to stay on the train, if you're not pressed for time, the train is the logical choice.
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love Long Acre its a really lovely roaf
I had just went from Covent Garden to Leicester Square by tube today with my freedom pass but if I had to pay for my tube journeys this is a thing I would never do. I also think that Leicester Square to Tottenham Court Road could be quicker to walk then jumping on the tube too
Can’t be fair to walk on the escalator as that is giving a mechanical speed advantage.
Too many people not keeping to the left on the stairs!
Well if you are on the Central line and want to get to somewhere in Covent Garden then you might as well get out at TCR or Holborn and walk, there won't be much in it.
My advice. Always avoid stations with lifts. They're slow, crowded and everyone hates queuing up for them and then competing for wall space. Yuk.
I was in London once when it rained, and caught the tube between these stations. Not sure how relevant that is.
It also depends on how you change at LSQ. If you go via the long passageway it's way longer than if you take the stairs at the end of the platform. It also depends on the time of day as there is waiting for the lift at Covent Garden. As someone who worked at both stations and lived in Covent Garden, I always preferred to walk.
Cool experiment. I don't know the practicality of that in a US system like Boston or New York. It would be interesting to check it out sometime.
New York probably has some places like this, too, given how many stations it has.
To be honest I do the Piccadilly line everyday personally I think Leicester Square to Piccadilly Circus is more closer. Literally it’s basically walking from Five guys to the hippodrome casino which is like 3-4mins walk.
"It's really windy!" Looove it!
8:27 "nine! nine! nine!" was that because there were police right outside the station 😂😂
Hoping to see a new least used station in Cornwall. Lelant Saltings. It lost like 98% of it's train services.
Having "really windy" flashbacks
Walking there is a crowd underground there is a crowd of people but in my opinion walk it
in the days of capital cards i would always do the one-stop hop
If you're disabled or injured use Covent Garden
Was thinking this. Having to walk up an escalator isn't the same.
Sometimes you gotta like your own comment to get the ball rolling...
Remember my name 😂
I reckon it is quicker to walk from Euston to St Pancras after all the messing accessing / exiting the tube
I just give the thumbs up on your vids as soon as I click on them. I always know they're going to be awesome 😁
Hi Geoff, hello from France!
Last week I was in London and I didn't see you. I've bought your books at the LTM and when I'll came to London, i'll bring your tube station trivia. If you come to France (Paris), contact me!
Trip 2 teaches us that if Geoff has to wait for a long time for a train he vents his frustration as an angry German
Surprised that not many people got that joke. Actually, people are kinda dumb soooooo scratch that.
I once did exactly that - traveled from Covent Garden to Leicester Square by tube, during peak hours:D But I'm just a poor tourist, damn it!
I really thought I'd walk up the stairs in Covent Garden Station today. That was a huge mistake.
Do you know some useful British channel on TH-cam?
YES THE ONLY I KNOW IS Geoff Marshall channel.
Published on Aug 30, 2019