Mega Pidgeot is awesome and in Indigo League Pidgeot looks very majestic. But then Let's Go made it unable to ride, and thanks to the scaling (something rather accurate in Let's Go) it seems barely larger than Pidgeotto! Pidgeot got screwed over in Let's Go. Still a likeable mon imo.
I remember pointing out that Pidgey isn’t really a pigeon like Pidove is and someone literally responded with “Pidgey is a pigeon and Pidove is a dove. It’s right there in the name lol” Who’s gonna tell them that pigeons and doves are literally the same animal?
They aren’t the same animal. They just happen to be in the same family of birds, being Columbidae. Saying they are the same would be like saying vultures and eagles are the same because they are both raptors.
I love these little individual Pokemon breakdowns of even classic Pokemon we've known forever. If you're looking for suggestions (once you've flown past your bird binge), I'd love to hear you break down the Lotad line. It's always been such a bizarre evolution to me of "why does a lotus platypus turn into an energetic dancing pineapple duck?"
Not sure about the whole line but Ludicolo is a bit odd as it combines 2 well known plants from the Amazon with generic poncho and sombrero. The 2 plants btw are the pineapple and Victoria amazonica or amazon lily pad. That is that giant lily pad that can actually support the weight of kids and you see pictures of all the time. So I'm sure Ludicolo is just one big reference to South American cultures with the plants being the river basin and the clothing being the Andes mountain people, such as the Incas.
Gen 1 had a lot of gems. The stronger designs were those that aim for weird, nondescriptive monsters like Weezing, Exeggutor, Lickitung, Gengar, Clefable, and many more. And when they reference animals, they don't just take an animal and slap a typing on it; they either mix traits from different related animals, like how Arcanine is a dog-lion-tiger thing, or how Eevee is a fox-rabbit creature; or they do something different to the design, like how Tentacruel doesn't really look like a jellyfish, or how Starmie is not exactly a replica of a starfish. Of course, Gen 1 is not perfect, I mean Dewgong exists, but I really appreciate the ideas behind the best designs of that generation.
I actually really like the Pidgey line, it's just the definition of solid, plus the vague Egyptian theme gives it something extra. Hopefully we get a regional form or something that really leans into it and makes it fire/flying or psychic/flying!
Honestly the Egyptian theme seems to only be in theory it doesn’t really seem to be Egyptian at all in my opinion. This entire theory seems like a stretch. Gen 1 pkmn are pretty much literally exactly what they look like they didn’t seem to be designing pkmn the same way they do these days. I think they’re just supposed to be basic generic birds.
Agreed, it's simple, but brimming with stuff. I don't know if I agree on a regional though, because then I'd be replacing my Pidgeot from a personal perspective, and it's already perfect as is (though had the mega done that would've been cool, or pure flying no reason it needed to keep normal). Fearow could use a regional and new evo though, I even made one for a fan thing I'm doing.
@@thecoldestknife1204 Meanwhile you have Ninetails the literal kitsune. Game Freak did design Pokemon that way it just wasn't quite as prevalent or as obvious. It could very well be just a coincidence, but I doubt it. It might not be quite as deep as being a sun god, maybe just inspired by hieroglyphs. The stretch is the super saiyan thing, DBZ didn't invent powered-up forms. :P
People like to talk down on the Pidgey line, but i love pidgeot and mega pidgeot. I like how as it evolves, it looks "cooler" and more mature. Its a simple but effective design
I like how everyone says that pokemon have losed the imagination,when in the first gen there is a worm that is just a worm, a fat dragon and a seal named seel
Lotta people missing the point here 👀 Shiny Gengar is crap, Mega's gave Gengar a reason to exist as a shiny. I'm joking a bit by using that as a reason to justify Mega-Evolution as a system, but genuinely I appreciate that without Megas then shiny Gengar would have 0 reason to exist until G-Max Genger 😂 Generally, I'm a fan of Mega Pokemon. They added some spice to Pokemon designs and if you like them or not, that's fine 😊 Take my favourite Mega, Mega-Aggron. Hardly a competitive Uber monster, and even Mega-Garchomp is technically worse than just Life Orb Garchomp! But dual scythes and that jawline are awesome 😂
I always thought that the pidgey line drew inspiration from pheasants and quails that have very flamboyant plumage, which are in the partridge family, allowing game freak to be able to put pidgins in the name as they are all related. Fun fact: turkeys are also part of the partridge family: which includes doves, pidgins, quails, and pheasants.
Is this the "we always get a new birb" thing? Cause part of that problem faded once they got better second types. I don't know what people expected to get out of Swellow and Noctowl, but the designs aren't bad at all. Somehow the birds have fairly consistently pleasing designs. Making them HM and Team poster-Mon.
Swellow is pretty good actually. Especially In game. (Though Scrappy STAB Boomburst really hurts) Noctowl however really would have loved a different secondary type.
@@pn2294 WHY? It makes sense per the design. It's literally based on a raven which is found in the UK yes, but it's also drawing inspiration from black knight characters from medieval settings. You know like the one seen in Monty Python? Corviknight having the steel typing reflects all the armor it has. It's honestly the best regional bird and FOR a regional bird, quite bulky which is nice. If you can get a good GMax Wind Rage out, it'll wipe out any field nonsense going on like spikes and terrains. Good stuff.
I thought it was pretty easy to tell that they were hawks or falcons of some kind because of the color. But the anime does just treat them like pigeons. Also Megaevolution isn’t lame it’s better then dynamaxing in design for alot of them though some of them do just look like dynamax pokemon.
I think visually Mega Evolution is pretty nice, but gameplay wise, both for just playthroughs as well as for PvP, I find them just kinda boring due to their strength compared to overall non-megaevolved Pokémon :/ Dynamax I actually do not like at all, the concept alone just seems kinda dumb and boring to me, both visually and gameplay wise. "Pokemon go big".
You would expect a Hawk/Falcon hybrid to be quite strong. Or at least not the worst Bird Pokemon ever in term of gameplay (without counting the Mega.). Yeah, I get why they're compared to pigeons.
@@ExSuPiO1 That and the Gen-6 games just gave you free Megas (strong ones, at that), pretty much leaving no real reason to try any other Megas beyond those.
lockstin youre a gigachad youre the FIRST ever person to finally acknowledge that super sayian , super sonic and mega evolutions are the same thing *RESPECT*
You kinda forgot the species that ties it all together the Sparrow hawk... cause, you know... it is a sparrow that evolves into a hawk cause it always was kinda both...
I’ve always knew the Pidgey line isn’t based on pigeons but couldn’t know their origins due to the many conflicting dex entries so thanks for the video Lockstin
There HAD to be a reason the Pidgey line never reminded me of friggin pigeons. Birds that I can see almost every morning for the last decade or so of me playing pokemon.
Lockstin, Pidgey is actually based on the Eurasian Tree Sparrow, also known as 'suzume' in Japan. Rose-breasted Grosbeak aren't even native to Japan... Edit: I was stupid in my original comment, but I'll leave it up for posterity's sake. As some commenters in the replies have stated, a Pokemon can indeed have multiple inspirations, and especially inspirations that are not native to the real life area the region is based on. That being said, the European Tree Sparrow has no small part in Japanese culture. The fluttering movements of the birds inspired the traditional *suzume odori* dance- which Sensu Form Oricorio is partially inspired by.
You know what is also not native to Japan? Rhinos ... but Gen 1 had 2 Rhinoceros pokemon. Also, I am pretty sure Pangolin don't live in Japan either. Also not native to Japan? Rattlesnakes. So, the fact that it isn't native to Japan is meaningless here. If you want to argue that where the face markings come from, sure ... but the argument of "It can't be this species" because that species isn't native to Japan is just flawed.
@@darththeo Well, all of the examples you pulled are of animals that are relatively well-known worldwide. Making a pokemon that is supposed to be a generic bird, though, is most likely going to be influenced by the primary place you intend to market to because their idea of what a generic bird is is what matters.
It can be inspired by multiple birds, but saying one's wrong because it isn't Japanese native isn't a proper argument. There are plenty of pokemon inspired by animals not native to Japan in the Japanese regions alone
@@rasmusn.e.m1064 Or you are going to draw from a wide assortment of birds to make the most generic bird you can. Pinsir and Scyther are based off generic versions of their kind rather than specifically the ones found in Japan. And the Pangolin isn't really known that well worldwide. It is known and the Rattlesnake is known because of Western movies set in America. Saying "It is this one because it is found in Japan" is a poor argument because it doesn't need to be Japan native. Again, if you accept that Pigeotto and Pidgeot are based on the Red tailed Hawk, that's an North American species.
If I had to rank the final evolutions of the regional birds it would go like this from least favorite to favorite: Noctowl, Unfezant, Swellow, Toucannon, Pidgeot, Staraptor, Talonflame, Corviknight. Corviknight is my favorite regional bird cause it just looks BADASS. It's just so intimidating looking, but as seen in Twilight Wings they can have hearts of gold too. Honestly surprised Ash didn't get a regional bird from Galar. So strange. Especially since they obviously needed him to have a Gigantamax Pokemon for that gimmick, and it has a FREAKING DOPE GMax form. Also also Braviary is just one of my all time favorite pokemon IT'S AMERICA THE POKEMON I'm sorry but as an American I'M OBLIGATED TO LIKE IT. It's just got a clean design.
@@skelitonking117 I'm going off the regional birds. Per the definition, the regional bird of Unova is Unfezant. And I just like toucans they're fun so that's why he's above unfezant. Though actual pheasants are SO pretty. I kinda wish the male Unfezant was at least more like an ACTUAL pheasants in terms of colors. There are a LOT of pheasants in the united states. It's even the state bird of South Dakota. Even though they are not native to the US.
I kinda like the Pidgey line. Starting off as a generic little squab, who can't do much more than throw dirt in your face, it manages to overcome adversity & carry on. Never being special, it instead learns what it can from other birds. As it gains more experience, it eventually earns it's wings & becomes more than just a bird. It is now THE bird, capable of matching any avian adversary it comes across... except for maybe Charizard, who I theorize learned to fly in order to hunt them.
I love that the Pidgey line (and most of Gen 1 designs that reference animals) can't really be pinned into a specific animal, but rather are ambiguous mix of different things. That's what I like about the earlier Gen designs. Nowadays, one can immediately identify what animal inspired a particular design.
Loved this video. Pidgeot is my all time favorite pokemon! In fact, I got into pokemon because of Pidgeot. All the way back when Pokemon red and blue came out in the US, there was an ad in a magazine. It was a bunch of Pokemon with a net over them and said "Got ya!" Pidgeot was one of the pokemon under the net. Back then I was obsessed with birds and Pidgeot was just so awesome I had to play the game.
I think as like a milestone or anniversary you should do like a parody of your channel where you explain real animal behaviour using Pokémon. Something like "Horses all around the world are usually used for racing. This is inspired on a common costume in Kanto where rapidashes, the pokemon is based on, are usually used on a similar way blahblahblah"
Y'know I didn't expect someone who does so much research to not only get Super Sonic's name wrong -but also incorrectly call it a DBZ reference, (Sonic 2 was already in development by the time Super Saiyan Goku happened)- Edit: Okay so Super Sonic IS a reference to Super Saiyan, thnx Kringer
He's right tho. The Super Saiyan form first debuted on March 19, 1991 while Sonic 2's development only started in early 1992. Super Sonic's concept art even reference Goku's iconic pose from chapter 317.
A little more detail about Egyptian mythology. Ra is not so much THE god of the sun, but rather A god of the sun. And he is not the sun itself. Just in charge of taking care of it, which is why the sun sits on his head. A few other Egyptian gods have also worn the sun crown. And the sun itself is a separate god named aten. One pharoah who named himself akhenaten, pushed egypt to a brief period of monotheism, where aten was the only god. Of course after he died they completely abandoned that idea but it's an interesting bit of ancient history nonetheless.
The idea of combining various design elements and still making the result really simple is one of the things I like in Pokémon. Otherwise it would be literally an animal in anime style. You recognize these guys as regular birds, but you can't say you've seen one in real life, that's simple and nice 😊
5:24 "Megas are all kinda lame." Gnoggin woke up and chose violence today, didn't he? I'll grab the popcorn and wait for people to get upset in the comments section.
I'll sit in the sidelines with you. Got enough anger from all those Mega Stones clogging up my Items pocket, forcing me to scroll for way longer to find the item I'm actually looking for.
@@MrAuthor3DS Mega stones should have their own pocket. Inclement emerald, a rom hack of emerald, has way better organization than the actual mainline games, apparently. I've never played gen 6, since i didn't have a 3ds at the time (I still don't). Anyways, if megas (the best gimmick, imo) are lame, then what does that make Dynamaxing? (For the most part, it was just a stretched model and more HP).
Yeah it's not that different, but still enough that I like mega Pidgeot, sometimes the slightest changes can make the biggest impacts. Sometimes you want something extravagant and different like Charizard X, and sometimes you like simpler ones like Charizard Y... I miss megas.
Okay, maybe this will make you miss them less. 1.) It would be better for many mons to get evolutions instead of Megas, like Mawile and Audino. 2.) The gimmick was given to A.) Pokemon that didn't need it. (Rayquaza, Mewtwo, Metagross, Latios/Latias, Charizard etc.) B.) Pokemon that would have looked much better if they had an evolution instead. (Audino [yeah i don't think audino was good even after the mega], Mawile, Medicham, etc.) C.) Garchomp, which actually becomes worse due to a decrease in speed, ultimately making it's high attack stat not as worth-while. Or D.) Pokemon that can't really compare to the strongest of them. (Kangaskan, Scizor, Loppuny, etc.) Also, has anybody else noticed that almost nobody used it in the story? The only one that I can recall are the leaders of Magma and Aqua, and Steven using them. Ultimately, Megas weren't as good as people thought they were. They looked cool, but that was about the only good thing they did.
Agreed, It was the one gimmick I whished they kept up with. I didn't care for z crystals and I thought dynamaxing was weird at first but It quickly grew on me and I found it as a interesting merge between the two. The new gimmick in Scarlet and Violet looks interesting mechanically speaking but, I'm not gonna lie those hats look goofy as hell.
@@savvythedivineyethuggable7493 Also your point A is sort of conflicting with your final paragraph, mostly just Rayquaza and Metagross, because Rayquaza was for lore and story purposes, while Metagross was for story because it's the champion's signature Pokemon. The starters didn't really need it I suppose, especially Kanto if anything they should've given the Kalos starters megas, kind of when the Kanto pandering started, but it wasn't as much of a problem then because it was just happening. Part of the problem with gimmicks going forward, introducing new ones and just completely removing older ones like megas, then they think by SwSh oh Charizard needs another fricken form when it didn't. Frankly I'm sick of new gimmicks, they should stop them, or at the very least only 1 per new game on a new console. For example SwSh didn't need giga/dynamaxing, especially since there's so much more they could've done with making Pokemon Kaijus, they either should've skipped it, then have gen 9 have a new gimmick, or have a new gimmick in SwSh and build on it (like megas did) in following games. Remakes especially could've been a good opportunity to explore megas (forgot about PE, yeah some trainers had megas in that game, Red, Blue, Green, your rival, might be it can't remember, barely remember that game outside of oh Green finally exists). Like... I mean so many things wrong with BDSP, but they could've brought megas back for it too, and given us new ones, going forward, fans like megas, that's a perfect way to keep that train going even if it's slowed down, and thus future remakes would also be tied to the mega timeline while the original games are on the non mega timeline. Also are you a competitive player? I'm not, that could be the difference of our opinions, granted XY I didn't use any megas because I only use new Pokemon in new games, and no Kalos Pokemon had megas if I recall (outside Diancie a legendary which would've broken rule 2, and... I mean it wasn't available until ORAS anyways). Sorry I'm adding even more, just thought of more to add after I posted the comment and I think I was running out of room anyways. There is a lot megas had going for them or that could've been utilized again in the future, there was so much and still room for potential in the concept, and sooo many fans loved mega evolution, while newer gimmicks no one really cares about or like, Z moves were ok but they were an Alola exclusive it's fine if they don't show up, megas on the other hand established a whole new WORLD that they exist in. Not even mentioning them in games then also causes confusion in the lore, like in SwSh no one mentions if megas exist or not... sooo do they? Maybe Giga/dynamaxing was made to combat megas, maybe it is its own phenomenon, could both exist in the same timeline or not?
@@sheepmage5485 I didn't mind z moves, it was unique enough, and Pokemon that didn't get megas got exclusive z moves like... Pikachu got 2, Mew got 1, unlike the Kalos starters their starter's got in on the gimmick (though bond Greninja existed then, which is sort of like a mega), and megas existed alongside them. Giga/dynamax on paper sounds interesting, but... I thought it was lazy because it was a combination of the 2, there's so much more potential behind making Pokemon into Kaiju size, and once again they pandered to Kanto, with megas and the 1st regionals it was fine... but why would I use my Mega Charizard X that was physical and was fine being a mega. It then seemed redundant to give it a giga, and it felt like a reference to Godzilla... (looks at Tyranitar)... but one already exists, why wouldn't it get a giga? Then Butterfree don't get me wrong, I love it, it deserves a gimmick... but there's plenty of moth Pokemon if you want a Mothra reference, heck even one in SwSh, and killing 2 birds with 1 stone make it the signature Pokemon of Melony instead of Lapras... sorry for that tangent just bugs me a bit that they prioritized Kanto Pokemon, I like them as much as everyone else but there's over 800 Pokemon give attention to them. As for how I would've handled them in general rather than combining z moves and megas they really should've tied it to weather. Godzilla, King Ghidorah, Mothra, all these giant monsters in movies and shows do 1 thing, they majorly impact their environments, alter landscapes, create radiation, cause storms, earthquakes, floods, etc, I think that would've been cooler and would've made it more unique. I do agree hats a re a bit silly, feel like something else could've been done to signify what type they'll become, but I do love the idea of the gimmicks, it's unique changing a Pokemon's typing... though it conflicts with a fan thing I'm doing lol.
@@IgnatiusBlaze4 I agree, they pander to Kanto way to much and give way to much attention to the golden boys, Charizard, Eevee and Pikachu. But, a little bit in their defense (just a little bit) as you said their are over 800 Pokémon its bound to happen that some would be neglected and fall into obscurity. Remember Maractus? Me either😄. Your idea for the dynamaxing/Gynamxing sounds interesting and I'm a really big fan of Godzilla and Kaiju's in general. And while I did enjoy Dynamxing it would have been great to see more done with it as you suggested. Sadly Gamefreak keeps abandoning old gimmicks to push new ones, only to abandoning those in the next game. I really wish they just stick with something and refine it. You know?
I like the Pidgey line a lot. They're not very strong and they don't learn the best moves, but it was the first Pokemon I ever caught so it has a special place in my heart and definitely on my team
The haircut of mega pidgeot remembered me more the haircut of the main character of Yu Gi OH when transformed into his egyptian like form (sorry I don't know his name) than a supersayan haircut, and with the egyptian theme I think it fits way better :)
I wonder if Pidgey is more a Pidgin, like the language concepts that combine two unrelated things.. with birds. Since Gen 1 is about trading, it may be fitting.
I love this channel so much. You've deepened my love for the Pokémon world, and you've taught me so much in the way of creating my own region. I now know how to go about doing research to fuel my inspiration.
I love how this channel combines my favorite video game franchise and actual knowledge/information. I love learning these little tidbits while watching a Pokemon video.
ospreys have the same facial markings as Pidgeotto and Pidgeot and its fishing abilities are important enough to canon that it was featured in Magikarp Jump so I think it was a more important inspiration than is given credit in this video
Lockstin: Megas are all kind of lame. Me: Oh. Okay then. I suppose that the flying type dragon whose pokedex entry talks about how hard it worked to finally achieve its dream to fly should not fly and should instead be on the ground, not flying even though it’s pokedex entry talks about how hard it worked to finally achieve its dream to fly. Got it.
I always thought Pidgey resembled those brown tiny birds in my area all over NY, ironically they share the same space with grey pigeons lol they’re so common I can’t help but call them Pidgey
"Yeup. That looks like a turkey." I dont know why I love that delivery so much. It kinda gives me Jim Carry vibes maybes that's why. You're so good at changing your voice.
You should do a video on the correlation of Pokemon stats to real world measurable values. Pidgeot, for example, has a base speed stat of 101. That means that a fully invested Pidgeot with perfect IVs and speed boosting nature will reach a highest speed stat of 331. That information has no value until we plug in the information that Pidgeot reach max speeds of Mach 2. Where it gets tricky is that it's never clearly stated if that is just at base speed, or if it needs to use specific speed boosting moves like Agility that raise your speed stat, and although the move Tailwind did not exist before Generation 4, a tailwind is a naturally occurring phenomenon that can apply regardless, but it is important to understand what the MOVE Tailwind does in Pokemon, which is to double the speed of the party. So, let's try to calculate what is the most likely interpretation of max speeds of Mach 2, which would be fully boosted stat from the x6 of 3 Agility uses, putting it at 1986 speed and then that value is doubled by the tailwind to 3972. There will be very slight variances if it uses an attack such as Quick Attack or (through the use of Mimic or Mirror Move, Extremespeed) but those are more for game mechanics than anything, as we have seen in the anime the speeds of Quick Attack and Agility being used in combat are almost interchangeable in their practical interpretations. So, we have 3972 Pokemon speed stat = 680.58 m/s. So doing all the calculations in reverse, at base, we can see Pidgeot's original base 101 stat [331 speed] is equivalent to a measurable movement speed of 56.715 m/s, roughly 125 mph! However, this is pretty tame at base, considering the world's fastest known animal, which happens to be a bird of prey, the Peregrine Falcon, has a maximum flight speed while diving, of 240 mph, or roughly 107 m/s. Very close to DOUBLE what Pidgeot's base speed is! Pidgeot at its base speed, however, is pretty fairly comparable to several falcon and eagle species, so it's not all that unbelievable. Where it gets to be unbelievable, but now TOTALLY believable through math, is that it can reach max speeds of Mach 2! Since it can feasibly achieve a MULTIPLIER of x12 of its speed, then it is completely believable to see it reaching speeds of Mach 2. A real life Peregrine Falcon, if it had a x12 multiplier to its speed would actually be hitting speeds of Mach 4!!! I just want to know what other cool things could be discovered through stat calculations! I mean, keep in mind, freaking PIKACHU can ALMOST reach Mach 2, since it has a base speed stat of 90, meaning 301 speed at base, if it had all those boosts, it would come very close to hitting Mach 2, and that is pretty insane.
You noted the real world bird's diving speed is faster than Pidgeot at base, but I feel base speed should be flying straight, not climbing and not diving
@@velvetbutterfly I couldn't get a clear answer from Google, believe me I wanted the same information, but regardless, it still says Pidgeot can reach max speeds of Mach 2, so I think it must be safe to assume it probably also means diving speed, n which case it's still a fair 1 to 1 comparison.
I always liked how Pidgey goes from an unassuming little passerine bird to a hawk/falcon and then to an eagle that can create hurricanes with its wings and fly at mach 2. Sort of gives me Magikarp to Gyarados vibes.
Lockstin is the best poketuber hands down. Making a video about the freaking Pidgey line and make it entertaining and awesome like damn, this is talent right here.
I like the Pidgey line. The first stage may be plain, but the next two stages are very pretty. It is fun to speculate on what bird the line is based on. I never noticed the red tailed hawk thing. Neat. I would like to add that I found another bird to connect to the line, the kagu. The kagu is a flightless terrestrial bird. It is a cute gray creature. It lives in the island of New Caledonia. It is related to seabirds. The kagu has a long feathered crest on its head. The crest is gray like the rest of the body. The crest usually lies flat. However the kagu can raise it's crest up high to signal to other kagu. The crest is so long and it swooshes down. It reminds me of a Pidgeot albeit a lot less colorful. Maybe Mega Pidgeot is like a kagu with a display crest. Comparing the Pidgey line to certain songbirds and birds of prey. So I would like to add in kagu. I am not sure if this was intentional. I have heard of Dragonball Z but never seen it. It is amusing to bring a connection. The connection I noticed right away is Digimon. I watched that show a lot when I was little. Pokemon mega evolution is like Digimon in evolving to a higher stage temporarily in order to gain advantage on a fight. It is a pretty cool idea. It would be interesting if it was utilized more. It would be awesome if Ash occasionally got into really tough fights and used the power of temporary evolution. Pikachu was able to temporarily evolve to a Raichu, and beat up much stronger enemies. That would be cool.
One thing that drove me and my friends up the wall about Pidgeot was the pronunciation of its name. Like, it's CLEARLY spelled as if it should be pronounced "pihd-jee-ott", but many old Pokemon encyclopedias from the 90s (the ones actually printed in book-format since Bulbadedia wasn't a thing yet) said it was pronounced "Pihd-jitt." And indeed, in the anime and some games I've heard it pronounced both ways. It's like the whole "GIF/JIF" debate. No matter which way you pronounce it, SOMEBODY is going to get up in your face about how THEIR way of pronouncing it is the "correct" way.
For a moment I thought Pidgey and fam were based on finches because of the beaks, would also be fitting starting bird for a game about evolution, until you mentioned the other bird facts.
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Mega Pidgeot is awesome and in Indigo League Pidgeot looks very majestic. But then Let's Go made it unable to ride, and thanks to the scaling (something rather accurate in Let's Go) it seems barely larger than Pidgeotto! Pidgeot got screwed over in Let's Go. Still a likeable mon imo.
Bird Jesus...
i am acctually watching using raycon let me tell u actually really nice
I actually do love the Pidgey line and that's why I was so stoked for Mega Pidgeot back in Gen6.
I remember pointing out that Pidgey isn’t really a pigeon like Pidove is and someone literally responded with “Pidgey is a pigeon and Pidove is a dove. It’s right there in the name lol”
Who’s gonna tell them that pigeons and doves are literally the same animal?
Lol
WHAT
today I learned pigeons and doves were the same
@@flamepelt3092 yeah the actual species name is Rock Dove. They’re just called pigeons or sometimes rock pigeon
They aren’t the same animal. They just happen to be in the same family of birds, being Columbidae. Saying they are the same would be like saying vultures and eagles are the same because they are both raptors.
Fact: Pidgey isn’t a bird, its a Pokémon
This is the real deal.
you fool, it's a Bird Pokémon
Is it a Bird? Is it a Plane?
No. It's Pidgeot.
@@Gnoggin and yet you were still trying to figure out what it was.
It's Japanese name is pigeon
I love these little individual Pokemon breakdowns of even classic Pokemon we've known forever. If you're looking for suggestions (once you've flown past your bird binge), I'd love to hear you break down the Lotad line. It's always been such a bizarre evolution to me of "why does a lotus platypus turn into an energetic dancing pineapple duck?"
Not sure about the whole line but Ludicolo is a bit odd as it combines 2 well known plants from the Amazon with generic poncho and sombrero. The 2 plants btw are the pineapple and Victoria amazonica or amazon lily pad. That is that giant lily pad that can actually support the weight of kids and you see pictures of all the time. So I'm sure Ludicolo is just one big reference to South American cultures with the plants being the river basin and the clothing being the Andes mountain people, such as the Incas.
Probably has a lot to do with them resembling the Yokai known as Kappa. (Not to be confused with the creepy smiling face from Twitch.)
Mr. Mine, Jynx and Lickitung, in their entireties, are the greatest examples of “just gen one things”.
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Jynx is based on Yama-uba. It has one of the most complex designs in gen 1
Also Mr. Mime was misspelled
I think the main Pokémon designer asked his son for ideas during puberty in gen 1
Gen 1 had a lot of gems. The stronger designs were those that aim for weird, nondescriptive monsters like Weezing, Exeggutor, Lickitung, Gengar, Clefable, and many more. And when they reference animals, they don't just take an animal and slap a typing on it; they either mix traits from different related animals, like how Arcanine is a dog-lion-tiger thing, or how Eevee is a fox-rabbit creature; or they do something different to the design, like how Tentacruel doesn't really look like a jellyfish, or how Starmie is not exactly a replica of a starfish.
Of course, Gen 1 is not perfect, I mean Dewgong exists, but I really appreciate the ideas behind the best designs of that generation.
I actually really like the Pidgey line, it's just the definition of solid, plus the vague Egyptian theme gives it something extra. Hopefully we get a regional form or something that really leans into it and makes it fire/flying or psychic/flying!
I do like Pidgey line too! Especially Pidgey somehow the most lol
Pretty sure the vague Egyptian theme comes from Horus, an Egyptian god who is depicted with the head of a hawk
Honestly the Egyptian theme seems to only be in theory it doesn’t really seem to be Egyptian at all in my opinion. This entire theory seems like a stretch. Gen 1 pkmn are pretty much literally exactly what they look like they didn’t seem to be designing pkmn the same way they do these days.
I think they’re just supposed to be basic generic birds.
Agreed, it's simple, but brimming with stuff. I don't know if I agree on a regional though, because then I'd be replacing my Pidgeot from a personal perspective, and it's already perfect as is (though had the mega done that would've been cool, or pure flying no reason it needed to keep normal). Fearow could use a regional and new evo though, I even made one for a fan thing I'm doing.
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Meanwhile you have Ninetails the literal kitsune. Game Freak did design Pokemon that way it just wasn't quite as prevalent or as obvious. It could very well be just a coincidence, but I doubt it. It might not be quite as deep as being a sun god, maybe just inspired by hieroglyphs.
The stretch is the super saiyan thing, DBZ didn't invent powered-up forms. :P
I never thought Pidgey was a pigeon. Now, what kind of bird I wasn't sure until this video. But never once called it a pigeon.
thats where I am, I never considered an actual species that Pidgey was based off of, when I thought of a pidgeon pokemon I did think of pidove tho
SAME
@@GweenOfTea same. I never thought Pidgey was a pigeon. I've seen pigeons before, and they look like pidove.
... I just realized I've always spelled pigeon wrong! Pidgeon!
@@Gnoggin Don't worry about that. Trust me, I'm dyslexic and spell stuff wrong a lot.
The real problem with Pidgey is that it's taught entire generations to misspell pigeon, and it's not even a pigeon!
It's easy to remember how to spell pigeon: it's just what Eevee becomes when you give it a Bacon Stone.
apparently pidgeon is an archaic spelling of pigeon
For me it's my mind automatically calling rhinoceros 'Rhyhorn'
People like to talk down on the Pidgey line, but i love pidgeot and mega pidgeot. I like how as it evolves, it looks "cooler" and more mature. Its a simple but effective design
I always thought pidgy was a finch cause finches are the most generic birds and they are found everywhere and then the others were hawks
I like how everyone says that pokemon have losed the imagination,when in the first gen there is a worm that is just a worm, a fat dragon and a seal named seel
This is a crab. We'll name it Crab. It means Crab in English.
OC name, please don't change.
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 yes krabby's Japanese name is very clever
Also a dugong that is called dewgong
Because these old designs you described and the newer ones are comparable.
@@kindlingking what?
He says Mega-Evolution is lame, but we actually got a good shiny for Gengar since it's Mega is white, and I'd count that as a win 🤗
Mega gengar is a tooth with arms and a face
I think he was joking
That's it? That's the one thing that makes mega's cool?
Lotta people missing the point here 👀
Shiny Gengar is crap, Mega's gave Gengar a reason to exist as a shiny. I'm joking a bit by using that as a reason to justify Mega-Evolution as a system, but genuinely I appreciate that without Megas then shiny Gengar would have 0 reason to exist until G-Max Genger 😂
Generally, I'm a fan of Mega Pokemon. They added some spice to Pokemon designs and if you like them or not, that's fine 😊
Take my favourite Mega, Mega-Aggron. Hardly a competitive Uber monster, and even Mega-Garchomp is technically worse than just Life Orb Garchomp! But dual scythes and that jawline are awesome 😂
I think he meant design wise
I always thought that the pidgey line drew inspiration from pheasants and quails that have very flamboyant plumage, which are in the partridge family, allowing game freak to be able to put pidgins in the name as they are all related.
Fun fact: turkeys are also part of the partridge family: which includes doves, pidgins, quails, and pheasants.
7:00 super saiyan pharaoh is the coolest titles i have ever heard
Is this the "we always get a new birb" thing?
Cause part of that problem faded once they got better second types.
I don't know what people expected to get out of Swellow and Noctowl, but the designs aren't bad at all.
Somehow the birds have fairly consistently pleasing designs. Making them HM and Team poster-Mon.
Swellow is pretty good actually. Especially In game. (Though Scrappy STAB Boomburst really hurts)
Noctowl however really would have loved a different secondary type.
I honestly hate how Corviknight is a steel type.
@@pn2294 WHY? It makes sense per the design. It's literally based on a raven which is found in the UK yes, but it's also drawing inspiration from black knight characters from medieval settings. You know like the one seen in Monty Python? Corviknight having the steel typing reflects all the armor it has. It's honestly the best regional bird and FOR a regional bird, quite bulky which is nice. If you can get a good GMax Wind Rage out, it'll wipe out any field nonsense going on like spikes and terrains. Good stuff.
@@ribottostudio because it’s no longer a regional bird
It’s just a bird
@@pn2294 that….that is so stupid
I thought it was pretty easy to tell that they were hawks or falcons of some kind because of the color. But the anime does just treat them like pigeons. Also Megaevolution isn’t lame it’s better then dynamaxing in design for alot of them though some of them do just look like dynamax pokemon.
I think visually Mega Evolution is pretty nice, but gameplay wise, both for just playthroughs as well as for PvP, I find them just kinda boring due to their strength compared to overall non-megaevolved Pokémon :/
Dynamax I actually do not like at all, the concept alone just seems kinda dumb and boring to me, both visually and gameplay wise. "Pokemon go big".
You would expect a Hawk/Falcon hybrid to be quite strong. Or at least not the worst Bird Pokemon ever in term of gameplay (without counting the Mega.).
Yeah, I get why they're compared to pigeons.
@@ExSuPiO1 this
@@ExSuPiO1 That and the Gen-6 games just gave you free Megas (strong ones, at that), pretty much leaving no real reason to try any other Megas beyond those.
Mega Evolution was... really freakin crap. It made good Pokemon better and gave Sceptile a niche in UU. That's it.
That Buu's Fury SS3 theme song during Pidgeot's Mega made me extremely happy. Like, ridiculously happy. 5:16
I’ll go with Honest Trailers on Pidgey:
“A Bird”
“A big bird”
“A slightly bigger bird than before”
lockstin youre a gigachad
youre the FIRST ever person to finally acknowledge that super sayian , super sonic and mega evolutions are the same thing
*RESPECT*
You kinda forgot the species that ties it all together the Sparrow hawk... cause, you know... it is a sparrow that evolves into a hawk cause it always was kinda both...
I’ve always knew the Pidgey line isn’t based on pigeons but couldn’t know their origins due to the many conflicting dex entries so thanks for the video Lockstin
There HAD to be a reason the Pidgey line never reminded me of friggin pigeons. Birds that I can see almost every morning for the last decade or so of me playing pokemon.
I saw a dove irl and thought of Pidove but never really Pidgey
If you're open to suggestion, I'd be interested to see a video about Natu and Xatu. I think that could be an interesting subject.
Lockstin, Pidgey is actually based on the Eurasian Tree Sparrow, also known as 'suzume' in Japan. Rose-breasted Grosbeak aren't even native to Japan...
Edit: I was stupid in my original comment, but I'll leave it up for posterity's sake. As some commenters in the replies have stated, a Pokemon can indeed have multiple inspirations, and especially inspirations that are not native to the real life area the region is based on.
That being said, the European Tree Sparrow has no small part in Japanese culture. The fluttering movements of the birds inspired the traditional *suzume odori* dance- which Sensu Form Oricorio is partially inspired by.
Srsly? I thought Pidgey was based on the Glaucus atlanticus.
You know what is also not native to Japan? Rhinos ... but Gen 1 had 2 Rhinoceros pokemon.
Also, I am pretty sure Pangolin don't live in Japan either.
Also not native to Japan? Rattlesnakes.
So, the fact that it isn't native to Japan is meaningless here.
If you want to argue that where the face markings come from, sure ... but the argument of "It can't be this species" because that species isn't native to Japan is just flawed.
@@darththeo Well, all of the examples you pulled are of animals that are relatively well-known worldwide. Making a pokemon that is supposed to be a generic bird, though, is most likely going to be influenced by the primary place you intend to market to because their idea of what a generic bird is is what matters.
It can be inspired by multiple birds, but saying one's wrong because it isn't Japanese native isn't a proper argument. There are plenty of pokemon inspired by animals not native to Japan in the Japanese regions alone
@@rasmusn.e.m1064 Or you are going to draw from a wide assortment of birds to make the most generic bird you can.
Pinsir and Scyther are based off generic versions of their kind rather than specifically the ones found in Japan.
And the Pangolin isn't really known that well worldwide. It is known and the Rattlesnake is known because of Western movies set in America.
Saying "It is this one because it is found in Japan" is a poor argument because it doesn't need to be Japan native. Again, if you accept that Pigeotto and Pidgeot are based on the Red tailed Hawk, that's an North American species.
A regional form to be more Egyptian would make me actually like Pidgey a bit more
1:02 cracked me up so bad
5:09 Looks like Twitch Plays Pokemon made the right decision calling the Pidgey “Bird Jesus.”
Pidgey is my favorite bird pokemon cuz looks a ton like the cute House Sparrow and that itty bitty bird is my favorite small bird
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Why did my childhood cat run away?
jUSt gEn oNe tHInGs
I love the 16-bit remix of super Saiyan 3 music you threw in.
If I had to rank the final evolutions of the regional birds it would go like this from least favorite to favorite: Noctowl, Unfezant, Swellow, Toucannon, Pidgeot, Staraptor, Talonflame, Corviknight.
Corviknight is my favorite regional bird cause it just looks BADASS. It's just so intimidating looking, but as seen in Twilight Wings they can have hearts of gold too. Honestly surprised Ash didn't get a regional bird from Galar. So strange. Especially since they obviously needed him to have a Gigantamax Pokemon for that gimmick, and it has a FREAKING DOPE GMax form.
Also also Braviary is just one of my all time favorite pokemon IT'S AMERICA THE POKEMON I'm sorry but as an American I'M OBLIGATED TO LIKE IT. It's just got a clean design.
Gigantamax corviknight is just dynamax corviknight with wings spread, easily the most boring gmax imo.
@@reddytheorangefish5837 I guess I just really, REALLY like the red highlights on the feathers it's just nice.
The fact that you like Toucannon and Unfezant over Noctowl hurts me, also your forgot Mandibuzz
@@skelitonking117 I'm going off the regional birds. Per the definition, the regional bird of Unova is Unfezant. And I just like toucans they're fun so that's why he's above unfezant. Though actual pheasants are SO pretty. I kinda wish the male Unfezant was at least more like an ACTUAL pheasants in terms of colors. There are a LOT of pheasants in the united states. It's even the state bird of South Dakota. Even though they are not native to the US.
@@reddytheorangefish5837 it’s also got the little minion things
I kinda like the Pidgey line. Starting off as a generic little squab, who can't do much more than throw dirt in your face, it manages to overcome adversity & carry on. Never being special, it instead learns what it can from other birds. As it gains more experience, it eventually earns it's wings & becomes more than just a bird. It is now THE bird, capable of matching any avian adversary it comes across... except for maybe Charizard, who I theorize learned to fly in order to hunt them.
Seeing this bot response next to a thumbnail that says "LIES" is priceless! 👏😂
* Pidgeot mega evolves *
The trainer: you see *insert gym leader name here * you're not dealing with the average flying pokemon anymore
I love that the Pidgey line (and most of Gen 1 designs that reference animals) can't really be pinned into a specific animal, but rather are ambiguous mix of different things. That's what I like about the earlier Gen designs. Nowadays, one can immediately identify what animal inspired a particular design.
Loved this video. Pidgeot is my all time favorite pokemon! In fact, I got into pokemon because of Pidgeot. All the way back when Pokemon red and blue came out in the US, there was an ad in a magazine. It was a bunch of Pokemon with a net over them and said "Got ya!" Pidgeot was one of the pokemon under the net. Back then I was obsessed with birds and Pidgeot was just so awesome I had to play the game.
6:54 "Doodley Blip"
5:24 them's fightin' words, bud.
I think as like a milestone or anniversary you should do like a parody of your channel where you explain real animal behaviour using Pokémon.
Something like "Horses all around the world are usually used for racing. This is inspired on a common costume in Kanto where rapidashes, the pokemon is based on, are usually used on a similar way blahblahblah"
Y'know I didn't expect someone who does so much research to not only get Super Sonic's name wrong -but also incorrectly call it a DBZ reference, (Sonic 2 was already in development by the time Super Saiyan Goku happened)-
Edit: Okay so Super Sonic IS a reference to Super Saiyan, thnx Kringer
He's right tho.
The Super Saiyan form first debuted on March 19, 1991 while Sonic 2's development only started in early 1992. Super Sonic's concept art even reference Goku's iconic pose from chapter 317.
@@DB_Kringer thanks
@@KingsBard No problem
I am once again reminded that we never got to see Raditz or Nappa come back and go Super Saiyan.
5:29 I can't tell the difference between Super Saiyan 1 and Super Saiyan 2
I like mudkip
Ya he's pretty cool :)
same
u leik mudkips?
😳 I like Pokémon 😳
me too :)
I appreciate the SS3 theme cover during the Saiyan conversation lol
I think the facial markings come from eurasian tree sparrows, a common special of bird found in japan
“All Mega are lame” might be the hottest take in Pokémon I’ve ever heard. So much so that I’m assuming it was used to generate comments like mine.
Or, better yet, he actually thinks it.
I was hoping when you said "big birds of prey" that either Big Bird or a Klingon Bird of Prey would be shown.
Or Big Bird ON a Klingon Bird of Prey...
Thank you for this beautiful mental image xD
5:23 Mega Absol would like a word with you.
A little more detail about Egyptian mythology. Ra is not so much THE god of the sun, but rather A god of the sun. And he is not the sun itself. Just in charge of taking care of it, which is why the sun sits on his head. A few other Egyptian gods have also worn the sun crown. And the sun itself is a separate god named aten. One pharoah who named himself akhenaten, pushed egypt to a brief period of monotheism, where aten was the only god. Of course after he died they completely abandoned that idea but it's an interesting bit of ancient history nonetheless.
The idea of combining various design elements and still making the result really simple is one of the things I like in Pokémon. Otherwise it would be literally an animal in anime style. You recognize these guys as regular birds, but you can't say you've seen one in real life, that's simple and nice 😊
One thing that is "pidgeon-y" is in earlier designs the evolutions were much pudgy, like a plump pidgeon.
I always thought of it going Super Saiyan 2 kind of like how Gohan’s transformation is.
5:24 "Megas are all kinda lame."
Gnoggin woke up and chose violence today, didn't he? I'll grab the popcorn and wait for people to get upset in the comments section.
I'll sit in the sidelines with you. Got enough anger from all those Mega Stones clogging up my Items pocket, forcing me to scroll for way longer to find the item I'm actually looking for.
@@MrAuthor3DS Mega stones should have their own pocket.
Inclement emerald, a rom hack of emerald, has way better organization than the actual mainline games, apparently.
I've never played gen 6, since i didn't have a 3ds at the time (I still don't).
Anyways, if megas (the best gimmick, imo) are lame, then what does that make Dynamaxing? (For the most part, it was just a stretched model and more HP).
Yeah it's not that different, but still enough that I like mega Pidgeot, sometimes the slightest changes can make the biggest impacts. Sometimes you want something extravagant and different like Charizard X, and sometimes you like simpler ones like Charizard Y... I miss megas.
Okay, maybe this will make you miss them less.
1.) It would be better for many mons to get evolutions instead of Megas, like Mawile and Audino. 2.) The gimmick was given to A.) Pokemon that didn't need it. (Rayquaza, Mewtwo, Metagross, Latios/Latias, Charizard etc.) B.) Pokemon that would have looked much better if they had an evolution instead. (Audino [yeah i don't think audino was good even after the mega], Mawile, Medicham, etc.) C.) Garchomp, which actually becomes worse due to a decrease in speed, ultimately making it's high attack stat not as worth-while. Or D.) Pokemon that can't really compare to the strongest of them. (Kangaskan, Scizor, Loppuny, etc.)
Also, has anybody else noticed that almost nobody used it in the story? The only one that I can recall are the leaders of Magma and Aqua, and Steven using them. Ultimately, Megas weren't as good as people thought they were. They looked cool, but that was about the only good thing they did.
Agreed, It was the one gimmick I whished they kept up with. I didn't care for z crystals and I thought dynamaxing was weird at first but It quickly grew on me and I found it as a interesting merge between the two. The new gimmick in Scarlet and Violet looks interesting mechanically speaking but, I'm not gonna lie those hats look goofy as hell.
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Also your point A is sort of conflicting with your final paragraph, mostly just Rayquaza and Metagross, because Rayquaza was for lore and story purposes, while Metagross was for story because it's the champion's signature Pokemon. The starters didn't really need it I suppose, especially Kanto if anything they should've given the Kalos starters megas, kind of when the Kanto pandering started, but it wasn't as much of a problem then because it was just happening. Part of the problem with gimmicks going forward, introducing new ones and just completely removing older ones like megas, then they think by SwSh oh Charizard needs another fricken form when it didn't. Frankly I'm sick of new gimmicks, they should stop them, or at the very least only 1 per new game on a new console. For example SwSh didn't need giga/dynamaxing, especially since there's so much more they could've done with making Pokemon Kaijus, they either should've skipped it, then have gen 9 have a new gimmick, or have a new gimmick in SwSh and build on it (like megas did) in following games. Remakes especially could've been a good opportunity to explore megas (forgot about PE, yeah some trainers had megas in that game, Red, Blue, Green, your rival, might be it can't remember, barely remember that game outside of oh Green finally exists). Like... I mean so many things wrong with BDSP, but they could've brought megas back for it too, and given us new ones, going forward, fans like megas, that's a perfect way to keep that train going even if it's slowed down, and thus future remakes would also be tied to the mega timeline while the original games are on the non mega timeline.
Also are you a competitive player? I'm not, that could be the difference of our opinions, granted XY I didn't use any megas because I only use new Pokemon in new games, and no Kalos Pokemon had megas if I recall (outside Diancie a legendary which would've broken rule 2, and... I mean it wasn't available until ORAS anyways).
Sorry I'm adding even more, just thought of more to add after I posted the comment and I think I was running out of room anyways. There is a lot megas had going for them or that could've been utilized again in the future, there was so much and still room for potential in the concept, and sooo many fans loved mega evolution, while newer gimmicks no one really cares about or like, Z moves were ok but they were an Alola exclusive it's fine if they don't show up, megas on the other hand established a whole new WORLD that they exist in. Not even mentioning them in games then also causes confusion in the lore, like in SwSh no one mentions if megas exist or not... sooo do they? Maybe Giga/dynamaxing was made to combat megas, maybe it is its own phenomenon, could both exist in the same timeline or not?
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I didn't mind z moves, it was unique enough, and Pokemon that didn't get megas got exclusive z moves like... Pikachu got 2, Mew got 1, unlike the Kalos starters their starter's got in on the gimmick (though bond Greninja existed then, which is sort of like a mega), and megas existed alongside them. Giga/dynamax on paper sounds interesting, but... I thought it was lazy because it was a combination of the 2, there's so much more potential behind making Pokemon into Kaiju size, and once again they pandered to Kanto, with megas and the 1st regionals it was fine... but why would I use my Mega Charizard X that was physical and was fine being a mega. It then seemed redundant to give it a giga, and it felt like a reference to Godzilla... (looks at Tyranitar)... but one already exists, why wouldn't it get a giga? Then Butterfree don't get me wrong, I love it, it deserves a gimmick... but there's plenty of moth Pokemon if you want a Mothra reference, heck even one in SwSh, and killing 2 birds with 1 stone make it the signature Pokemon of Melony instead of Lapras... sorry for that tangent just bugs me a bit that they prioritized Kanto Pokemon, I like them as much as everyone else but there's over 800 Pokemon give attention to them.
As for how I would've handled them in general rather than combining z moves and megas they really should've tied it to weather. Godzilla, King Ghidorah, Mothra, all these giant monsters in movies and shows do 1 thing, they majorly impact their environments, alter landscapes, create radiation, cause storms, earthquakes, floods, etc, I think that would've been cooler and would've made it more unique.
I do agree hats a re a bit silly, feel like something else could've been done to signify what type they'll become, but I do love the idea of the gimmicks, it's unique changing a Pokemon's typing... though it conflicts with a fan thing I'm doing lol.
@@IgnatiusBlaze4 I agree, they pander to Kanto way to much and give way to much attention to the golden boys, Charizard, Eevee and Pikachu. But, a little bit in their defense (just a little bit) as you said their are over 800 Pokémon its bound to happen that some would be neglected and fall into obscurity. Remember Maractus? Me either😄.
Your idea for the dynamaxing/Gynamxing sounds interesting and I'm a really big fan of Godzilla and Kaiju's in general. And while I did enjoy Dynamxing it would have been great to see more done with it as you suggested. Sadly Gamefreak keeps abandoning old gimmicks to push new ones, only to abandoning those in the next game. I really wish they just stick with something and refine it. You know?
Oh god. I just realized that Mega Pidgeot looks like Super Saiyan Beast Gohan lol
It’s funny that Pidove isn’t a dove when Pidgey isn’t a pigeon and Pidove is actually a pigeon
the clock at 3:03 says 069:420
I like Mega Pidgeot because it's flight animation doesn't look like it's failing around.
I like the Pidgey line a lot. They're not very strong and they don't learn the best moves, but it was the first Pokemon I ever caught so it has a special place in my heart and definitely on my team
0:37 Spearow is my favorite gen 1 birb
3:03
Yikes, now I begin to feel old seeing the layout.
"It's a pigeon. It's in the name."
The name takes from budgie as well as pigeon. Names tell us little for gen 1.
Yeah, Gen-1 calls its pangolin a shrew AND a mouse.
And then you have Mr. Mime.
2:15 lockstin's wife is just lockstin again. CONFIRMED
Editor is on point with the ss2 theme
"Yup that looks like a turkey"
That had me rolling on the floor
The haircut of mega pidgeot remembered me more the haircut of the main character of Yu Gi OH when transformed into his egyptian like form (sorry I don't know his name) than a supersayan haircut, and with the egyptian theme I think it fits way better :)
Yami yugi
Using music specifically from buu’s fury is so based
when I look at mega Pidgeot it looks like Pidgeot just went ssj
I wonder if Pidgey is more a Pidgin, like the language concepts that combine two unrelated things.. with birds. Since Gen 1 is about trading, it may be fitting.
I love this channel so much. You've deepened my love for the Pokémon world, and you've taught me so much in the way of creating my own region. I now know how to go about doing research to fuel my inspiration.
Could you imagine a pidgey variant if they ever do a region based out of Egypt?
Gba buu's fury theme goes hard🔥
I love how this channel combines my favorite video game franchise and actual knowledge/information. I love learning these little tidbits while watching a Pokemon video.
3:50 ok but why do I kind of like the way they look without their feather mohawks?! That should be cursed, but it's not!!
Pidgey’s design pulls a lot from the Cedar Waxwing (especially the design around the eyes).
Pidgey also looks like a bird that in Brazil is called bem-te-vi
Look at all these chickens!!
Mega Pidgeot is clearly a Yu-Gi-Oh! main character with that hair.
ospreys have the same facial markings as Pidgeotto and Pidgeot and its fishing abilities are important enough to canon that it was featured in Magikarp Jump so I think it was a more important inspiration than is given credit in this video
Lockstin: Megas are all kind of lame.
Me: Oh. Okay then. I suppose that the flying type dragon whose pokedex entry talks about how hard it worked to finally achieve its dream to fly should not fly and should instead be on the ground, not flying even though it’s pokedex entry talks about how hard it worked to finally achieve its dream to fly. Got it.
I always thought Pidgey resembled those brown tiny birds in my area all over NY, ironically they share the same space with grey pigeons lol they’re so common I can’t help but call them Pidgey
3:03 Okay, _this_ is my favourite screencap without a doubt… 🤣
"Yeup. That looks like a turkey."
I dont know why I love that delivery so much. It kinda gives me Jim Carry vibes maybes that's why.
You're so good at changing your voice.
You should do a video on the correlation of Pokemon stats to real world measurable values.
Pidgeot, for example, has a base speed stat of 101. That means that a fully invested Pidgeot with perfect IVs and speed boosting nature will reach a highest speed stat of 331.
That information has no value until we plug in the information that Pidgeot reach max speeds of Mach 2.
Where it gets tricky is that it's never clearly stated if that is just at base speed, or if it needs to use specific speed boosting moves like Agility that raise your speed stat, and although the move Tailwind did not exist before Generation 4, a tailwind is a naturally occurring phenomenon that can apply regardless, but it is important to understand what the MOVE Tailwind does in Pokemon, which is to double the speed of the party.
So, let's try to calculate what is the most likely interpretation of max speeds of Mach 2, which would be fully boosted stat from the x6 of 3 Agility uses, putting it at 1986 speed and then that value is doubled by the tailwind to 3972. There will be very slight variances if it uses an attack such as Quick Attack or (through the use of Mimic or Mirror Move, Extremespeed) but those are more for game mechanics than anything, as we have seen in the anime the speeds of Quick Attack and Agility being used in combat are almost interchangeable in their practical interpretations.
So, we have 3972 Pokemon speed stat = 680.58 m/s.
So doing all the calculations in reverse, at base, we can see Pidgeot's original base 101 stat [331 speed] is equivalent to a measurable movement speed of 56.715 m/s, roughly 125 mph!
However, this is pretty tame at base, considering the world's fastest known animal, which happens to be a bird of prey, the Peregrine Falcon, has a maximum flight speed while diving, of 240 mph, or roughly 107 m/s. Very close to DOUBLE what Pidgeot's base speed is!
Pidgeot at its base speed, however, is pretty fairly comparable to several falcon and eagle species, so it's not all that unbelievable. Where it gets to be unbelievable, but now TOTALLY believable through math, is that it can reach max speeds of Mach 2! Since it can feasibly achieve a MULTIPLIER of x12 of its speed, then it is completely believable to see it reaching speeds of Mach 2. A real life Peregrine Falcon, if it had a x12 multiplier to its speed would actually be hitting speeds of Mach 4!!!
I just want to know what other cool things could be discovered through stat calculations! I mean, keep in mind, freaking PIKACHU can ALMOST reach Mach 2, since it has a base speed stat of 90, meaning 301 speed at base, if it had all those boosts, it would come very close to hitting Mach 2, and that is pretty insane.
You noted the real world bird's diving speed is faster than Pidgeot at base, but I feel base speed should be flying straight, not climbing and not diving
My point is, how fast is that bird's average gliding speed compared to your theoretical Pidgeot speed?
@@velvetbutterfly I couldn't get a clear answer from Google, believe me I wanted the same information, but regardless, it still says Pidgeot can reach max speeds of Mach 2, so I think it must be safe to assume it probably also means diving speed, n which case it's still a fair 1 to 1 comparison.
He's just going super saiyan
I always liked how Pidgey goes from an unassuming little passerine bird to a hawk/falcon and then to an eagle that can create hurricanes with its wings and fly at mach 2. Sort of gives me Magikarp to Gyarados vibes.
5:26 Fight me
"Heeup, that looks like a turkey"
🤣 That should be a short
Why do i have existential crisis?
:Just gen 1 things
Lockstin is the best poketuber hands down. Making a video about the freaking Pidgey line and make it entertaining and awesome like damn, this is talent right here.
Still makes me smile at all the random lil bird sounds throughout the video
I love the Pidgey line. It holds a special place in my heart.
Pidgeot went super Saiyan 3
I love it when a video has a sponsored ad as part of the video instead of an actual ad. That way I can just easily skip through that part.
I like the Pidgey line. The first stage may be plain, but the next two stages are very pretty. It is fun to speculate on what bird the line is based on. I never noticed the red tailed hawk thing. Neat. I would like to add that I found another bird to connect to the line, the kagu. The kagu is a flightless terrestrial bird. It is a cute gray creature. It lives in the island of New Caledonia. It is related to seabirds. The kagu has a long feathered crest on its head. The crest is gray like the rest of the body. The crest usually lies flat. However the kagu can raise it's crest up high to signal to other kagu. The crest is so long and it swooshes down. It reminds me of a Pidgeot albeit a lot less colorful. Maybe Mega Pidgeot is like a kagu with a display crest. Comparing the Pidgey line to certain songbirds and birds of prey. So I would like to add in kagu. I am not sure if this was intentional. I have heard of Dragonball Z but never seen it. It is amusing to bring a connection. The connection I noticed right away is Digimon. I watched that show a lot when I was little. Pokemon mega evolution is like Digimon in evolving to a higher stage temporarily in order to gain advantage on a fight. It is a pretty cool idea. It would be interesting if it was utilized more. It would be awesome if Ash occasionally got into really tough fights and used the power of temporary evolution. Pikachu was able to temporarily evolve to a Raichu, and beat up much stronger enemies. That would be cool.
The whole Egyptian thing explains why it got Yugi's hair
One thing that drove me and my friends up the wall about Pidgeot was the pronunciation of its name. Like, it's CLEARLY spelled as if it should be pronounced "pihd-jee-ott", but many old Pokemon encyclopedias from the 90s (the ones actually printed in book-format since Bulbadedia wasn't a thing yet) said it was pronounced "Pihd-jitt." And indeed, in the anime and some games I've heard it pronounced both ways. It's like the whole "GIF/JIF" debate. No matter which way you pronounce it, SOMEBODY is going to get up in your face about how THEIR way of pronouncing it is the "correct" way.
The Pidgeot line are my favorite. Thanks for this.
For a moment I thought Pidgey and fam were based on finches because of the beaks, would also be fitting starting bird for a game about evolution, until you mentioned the other bird facts.
1:54 That View to like ratio is insane!
That sneaky Super Saiyan 3 theme in the background. I see you, Lockstin.