The OTHER Heidi Game | Bills @ Raiders (1969)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ย. 2024
- Remember when NBC decided to cut off the ending to the Jets/Raiders game in 1968 to show the start of the TV movie Heidi, and people on the East Coast missed the Raiders coming back and winning? Well, one year later, in 1969, NBC decided to give Heidi a second chance, and aired it at 7:00 Eastern after the game between the Oakland Raiders and the Buffalo Bills. Except, once again... this game ran long. Would NBC make the same mistake twice?
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I do love the Dr. Doofemshmirtz reference
I should mention: after the Heidi Game, NBC changed its policy, stating no game should ever be taken off the air until it's ended. And that was before the merger, when the broadcasting contracts then required all networks to show the game's entirety as well.
The irony is the fact that the NFL now has the same time slot on NBC as the Heidi movie did in the late 60s.
@@dionr1168In addition to this amazing TV movie, Disneyland released that album with story and songs from “Heidi”, and it includes songs that were not from the actual TV movie. Here is the first half of the album. th-cam.com/video/S0vjiSTjhIg/w-d-xo.html
Years later, during the original version of the XFL in 2001, NBC made a policy where a game airing on a Saturday night had to be cut off at 11 pm Eastern Time, regardless of whether or not the game was over. This policy still exists today, and it's why any sporting event airing on NBC in a Saturday evening time slot begins at 7:30 pm Eastern Time, be it Notre Dame football, _Big Ten Saturday Night,_ or the USFL. This was put in place to protect _Saturday Night Live_ in the event of a first-run episode in the aftermath of a highly-anticipated episode hosted by J Lo being pushed back 45 minutes (and airing on tape-delay) due to the XFL game going into double overtime.
@@drewzuhosky6826 Well, not only was it overtime, but didnt the game get delayed because the generators for the broadcast trucks ran out of gas? Either way, I totally remember SNL getting pushed back!!!
@@leogetz3570 That was covered up as a power failure in the Los Angeles Coliseum, Given that the original XFL was only in its second weekend at the time, NBC had to say it that way.
I truly appreciate the stealth Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz
reference! Thanks.
There's even been a "Heidi Game" in the NHL involving the Buffalo Sabres as in 2007, NBC inexplicably cut off the start of the OT period in the series clinching game in the Eastern Conference Finals between the Sabres & Ottawa for most of the country (apart from Buffalo) to show the Preakness. Hockey fans across the country were absolutely livid by this & had two options to find out what happened. One was to flip over to Versus (which later became the now defunct NBCSN) or if they lived close to the border (especially if they didn't have cable) flip over to CBC. NBC should have in this situation aired the Preakness on Versus & finished coverage of the game but were contractually obligated to show the Preakness on big NBC when it was ready to start due to it being a Triple Crown race. For those wondering how the game ended, Ottawa won 3-2, advancing to the Stanley Cup Final where they got beat by Anaheim in 5 games.
I wonder why NBC didn't just air the Senators-Sabres game on both NBC and Versus in this case, to avoid having to switch to the Preakness.
The head scratching part of that is they cut to the Preakness PRE-RACE coverage. It wasn't even the actual race. They cut away from an OT NHL conference final playoff game to cover horses sitting in their stables. It was a slap in the face to the entire game of hockey.
Moral of the story: don't show _Heidi_ when the Raiders are scheduled to play.
It is amazing to me that most football games back then was finished in less than three hours.
A lot of it was running football, so no clock stoppage. Plus you probably didn't have all the TV timeouts back then like you do now
TV programs only had about 10 minutes of commercials per hour back then
@@leogetz3570 A lot fewer TV timeouts, too. To give an example using a different sport, after watching the movie _The Mighty Macs_ (about the pioneer women's basketball team), she pretty much became obsessed with Immaculata and wanted to watch them play. Literally wvery single game we have been to took less than two hours, even if it went to OT. Have you ever seen any college game on TV take less than two hours.
And another example, I started off at a D-III college, and while I usually didn't go to the football games, it was mandatory on homecoming weekend. The game lasted right around two hours. So, basically, the game gets stretched out by over an hour to feed the TV beast.
@@leogetz3570
Not to mention replays.
Well there was no overtime and more rushing the ball.
A few more videos about this, and I can watch the entirety of "Heidi" just from JG9 video clips!
I think Lamonica could have had 7 touchdown passes if one of his receivers didn't drop a pass near the goal line, or get tackled short of it, I can't remember. Also later in the game Madden called the dogs off. But yeah, Lamonica in just one half had one of the best games in NFL history.
I've read that Lamonica was a prima donna and Stabler was not and he got the team to perform much better.
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video indicating the OG Heidi Game may not have been a mistake, but was born of a decision NBC made regarding the AFL in September of 1968 that alienated Johnny Carson.
Are we going to see merch with two nickels now? Would Jaguar fans be able to buy it for three pennies?
Or have merch that says”Because this is the story…”
The Heidi Bowl was my 1st NFL game on TV, Raiders fan ever since....
I was about to say that was the Jets and Raiders because I watched that game.
Thanks again for a great video on a little known AFL topic.
Luckily NFL Rules now state that the game must be aired to conclusion with a few exceptions, if a designated market affiliate must switch to their local team. The reverse can also be true. Local affiliates must show their local team to conclusion, and then join programming after that.
Interesting they would schedule Heidi for that particular Sunday given it also was a potential Game 7 of the 1969 World Series in Baltimore that could not have started before 2:00 PM had it happened. Had the Mets not won that World Series in five games and they had to delay the Bills-Raiders game to at least 4:30 PM if not 5:00 PM ET, would NBC have also delayed "Heidi" to 7:30 or 8:00 PM ET?
It has to be remember the original time the whole mess happened in 1968, Timex was the sponsor and they would have sued RCA (NBC's then-parent company) for breach of contract had that movie been delayed even a few minutes. Plus, especially then, delaying "Heidi" could have delayed the rest of NBC's lineup meaning local stations would have had their lineups delayed and that could have caused problems, especially since back then many stations had to be off the air by a certain point in the overnight due to transmitter maintenance and/or local laws AND if "Heidi" had been delayed, there likely would have been a ton of complaints to the FCC, especially from Churches that had far greater say back then as many of them frowned on professional sports then (and still do in some cases now) as many of them associated pro sports with gambling. NBC at least by then had the sense to simply delay Heidi a few minutes this time.
Note: This was the last AFL season before the merger.
Fun Fact: Another game that took place in 1968 is equally talked about and that's the infamous Snowballs at Santa game in Philadelphia. Almost 55 years later it's still brought up whenever we see Philadelphia fans behaving badly or even when they're just being loud and boisterous even though nothing even remotely close has ever happened again in Philly not to mention the entire story is taken out of context.
Hasn't Jaguar Gator 9 done a video about that game?
@@altfactor I just did a search, and no, he didn't do a video on that game, but there's so many videos on the subject that there's really not too much that ge could add to it.....or is there?? 😂
@@arizonawrestlinginterviews1040 there is. Like proper context. The poor guy who got pelted with snowballs was just the target of frustration by the fans at the ownership. And what's left out is the fact that here it was week 14 of a dismal season where the Eagles screwed themselves by winning the previous 2 games(had they not won 2 games they would have gotten the #1 pick hence OJ Simpson would have been an Eagle), there was a blizzard the night before, it was cold, damp, and miserable and still the game was a sellout.
@@altfactor I think he mentioned it indirectly in at least one video.
@@Rockhound6165 Yep. Instead the Eagles with the second pick took Leroy Keys, who was one of the biggest busts in draft history.
Next season The Jets will play the Raiders in Las Vegas i hope it a Sunday Night game on NBC so they can show the Movie Heidi before the Game for the 55 Anniversary of the first Heidi game
Raiders are terrible. They're not going to give them a SNF game.
@@osaji922 Ok how about a Thanksgiving night game after they show the 1968 Heidi movie on NBC
12 NOV 23 it is here already. Jets @ Raiders on Sunday night football. Let the fun begin
@@KittyPurrfect100And Heidi herself Jennifer Edward Help Open Sunday Night Football
There were 30 non football weekends they could have chosen.
The irony of this date is that had the World Series gone the distance, this would have been Game 7 of the World Series at Memorial Stadium in Baltimore. THAT could have caused chaos for the whole day, especially if the game went into extra innings as NBC was broadcasting the Series. Of course, thanks to an "amazin" team from New York, the Orioles never got that chance as they lost in 5 games.
PS the reason for the Jets/Oilers game being played on Monday 10/20/69 was the aforementioned WS which had wrapped up 4 days earlier and the field needed to be redone after Mets fans had torn it to shreds.
And that would have been a 2:00 PM ET first pitch because local laws in Baltimore forbade Sunday games from starting before 2:00 PM local time. That likely delays Bills-Raiders to 5:00 PM ET and "Heidi" to 8:00 PM ET if not postponed to another night.
@@WaltGekko Like I said-chaos. The Baltimore blue laws would have just added to the mess.
@@WaltGekko the other problem is who would have called the bills-raiders game. with curt gowdy and jim simpson likely being in baltmore, either charlie jones or pat hernon - normally the host of the post-game show (the sperry pro football report) - would have called pxp.
@@danielanderson4726 the plan for the WS usually had a local announcer broadcasting with Gowdy so that would have been Chuck Thompson for Baltimore (and Lindsey Nelson in New York).
If these two teams met today with the same score, it would had be the Bills smashing the Raiders and Josh Allen would had been throwing 6 Touchdown Passes for the Bills.
The Bills host the Raiders this season, so that's going to happen anyway 😂
I don't know if Las Vegas or Denver has improved but the LA Charges have.
Yeah and I think it would not matter that quarterback Derek Carr left Las Vegas for New Orleans
At least NBC learned their lesson.
It’s funny that it keeps happening with the raiders and no other team
OK, I'll ask again. If I order a pizza, will anyone else have some?
I might have a slice.
Well, I'm gonna need more of a commitment than that.
I’ll take the whole pizza, NO ONIONS!
I never knew about the Heidi ii good stuff i like it
KTO has a great video of the Heidi game.
That was one piece of TV history. The full movie is on TH-cam.
Following the “Heidi” premiere from 1968, Disneyland Records released the “Heidi” album features songs that were not used in the movie. The album was split into 2 parts. The first was “Songs From ‘Heidi’” and the other was the “Story of ‘Heidi’”. Both albums were not as faithful to the TV movie.
And also, Capitol Records released a TV soundtrack to “Heidi” following the success of the TV movie, and it featured musical scores from the film.
I'm curious. You say the KC-MIA game ended at 1845 that evening but NBC had to push Heidi back for the conclusion of BUF-OAK. In parts of the country getting the former, what aired in the interim? Did "bonus coverage" exist back then?
How do you discover these hidden gems?
13:17 until Raiders-Chargers TNF game in 2023
Where is the new Jaguar Gator 8 video?
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I can't believe that NBC was actually thinking about pulling that same stunt 2 years in a row. Thank goodness it came to its senses because it knew that it didn't want that smoke from NFL fans in the Eastern and Central Time Zones again (with the Dolphins in the same timeslot, I assume Tampa Bay was unaffected).
Tampa Bay didn’t have the Bucs until 1976.
The folks in Tampa back then would have been either Dolphins, Falcons, or Saints fans, most likely.
@@raymondhopwood9393 Most likely, Dolphins fans. The Saints' Floridian fanbase is mainly concentrated from Pensacola to Panama City and significantly fades as you head east and south.
"colorcast." Like bragging about stereo in the early 1990s.
It would have been merciful for Buffalo fans if they had cut over at 700 pm. For most Oakland fans it was still only 400 pm and the broadcast wouldn't have been preempted.
I was Heidi…
At least NBC didn't pull a "Willy Wonka" mistake!
The Willy Wonka "mistake" had more to do with at that time, it was NBC delaying that movie, showing it in its entirety and then joining the next movie in progress or airing both movies that night in full and delaying local news to 11:40 PM ET. That would have been a problem for many NBC stations that either had a movie after local news or other programming as back then, many stations had to be off the air by a certain point to perform transmitter maintenance or local laws required stations to be off by a certain point. Cable television eventually would change that but that was how it was done back then.
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The Falcons blew a lead of 28 to 3.
Heidi again? Couldn't NBC have chose an weekend that NBC either had 1 early AFL game or no games at all before trying again?
What are the odds that NBC would pull that very bonehead move TWICE in one decade? 😅
Not to mention on back to back years.
Durn Heidi. 😂
Duuuuuude, it's "all of A sudden", NOT "all of THE sudden!!!!"
False, nice try though
@@xp8969 sorry, pal, but it is absolutely true!
😐 ah yes I remember this game I was the broadcast guy who cutaway personally miscalculation. I just genuinely thought the Raiders lost, also fuck the Raiders. This is a joke if you didn't know.
Daryle lamonica was better in 1968 than AFL mvp joe namath. Lamonica wasn't even an all-star that year. Fraudway joe is in Canton, while Lamonica isn't. Truly disgusting
Lamonica should have gotten that super bowl.
@@osaji922 I'm glad you're not part of the fraudway joe cult. 65.6 is a passer rating worse than brian sipe, by 9.2!