Schumann - Symphonies No.1,2,3,4 + Presentation (reference recording : Wolfgang Sawallisch)

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    Robert Schumann (1810-1856) - The Four Symphonies / Overture Op.52
    Click to activate the English subtitles for the presentation (00:00-03:52)
    Symphony No.1 in B flat, Op.38 « Spring / Frühlings / Printemps »
    I.Andante poco maestoso - Allegro molto vivace (00:00)
    II.Larghetto (11:30)
    III.Scherzo - Molto Vivace (18:33)
    IV.Allegro animato e grazioso (23:58)
    Overture, Scherzo and Finale, Op.52
    I.Ouvertüre ; Andante con molto - allegro (32:15)
    II.Scherzo - Vivo (38:50)
    III.Finale - Allegro molto vivace (42:42)
    Symphony No.2 in C, Op.61
    I.Sostenuto assai - Allegro ma non troppo (49:18)
    II.Scherzo - Allegro vivace (1:01:47)
    III.Adagio espressivo (1:08:31)
    IV.Allegro molto vivace (1:18:51)
    Symphony No.3 in E flat, Op.97 « Rhenish / Rheinische / Rhénane »
    I.Lebhaft (1:27:02)
    II.Scherzo - Sehr mäßig (1:35:59)
    III.Nicht schnell (1:42:41)
    IV.Feierlich (1:48:11)
    V.Lebhaft (1:55:04)
    Symphony No.4 in D minor, Op.120
    I.Ziemlich langsam - Lebhaft (2:00:36)
    II.Romanze - Ziemlich langsam (2:10:55)
    III.Scherzo - Lebhaft (2:15:05)
    IV.Langsam - Lebhaft (2:21:55)
    Staatskapelle Dresden
    Wolfgang Sawallisch
    Recorded in 1972
    🔊 FOLLOW US on SPOTIFY (Profil: CMRR) : spoti.fi/3016eVr
    🔊 Download CMRR's recordings in High fidelity audio (QOBUZ) : bit.ly/2M1Eop2
    Le mariage de Schumann avec Clara Wieck en 1840 eut pour effet de changer radicalement la nature de sa production créative. Avant 1840, il n’avait composé presque que pour le piano, pourtant, après son mariage, par comparaison, il n’écrivit guère pour son propre instrument. Clara écrivit dans son journal (1839) que son plus ‘grand désir’ était que Robert composât pour l’orchestre. Deux ans après (1841), les Schumann enfin installés dans un bonheur familial, la Symphonie « Le Printemps/Spring » était née. La première execution eut lieu à Leipzig le 31 mars 1841 sous la direction de Mendelssohn. Son exubérance, sa poésie et son originalité firent bonne impression. C’est pourquoi Schumann se lança immédiatement dans une autre oeuvre symphonique.
    La Symphonie No.2 en en Ut Majeur a toujours été un peu comme la Cendrillon des symphonies de Schumann, moins jouée que les trois autres. Mais bien qu’elle dévoile sans doute ses beautés plus lentement que ses compagnes, c’est un ouvrage d’une puissance irrésistible, dont la conception classique s’avère la plus imposante parmi les symphonies de Schumann. Peut-être l’apport le plus original et le plus important de Schumann à la forme symphonique fut-il sa technique de relation entre les thèmes et de métamorphose d’un mouvement à l’autre. Mais, plus révélateur encore, est l’art dont Schumann traite la mélodie de l’Adagio : poignante, troublante, elle est développée de manière approfondie dans des étoffes musicales d’une grave beauté puis, dans une transformation inspirée, elle réapparaît comme le second sujet du finale.
    En 1850, les Schumann quitte Dresde pour Düsseldorf où Robert est nommé directeur musicale de l’orchestre de la ville. Il aimait la Rhénanie depuis longtemps; aussi s’enflamma-t-il à l'idée de composer une symphonie qui célébrât cette région riche en associations légendaires et historiques. On peut dire que la Rhénane est la plus belle, sans doute la plus joyeuse et la plus spontanée des dernières oeuvres symphoniques de Schumann. Sa volonté descriptive initiale s’est élargie à cette correspondance essentielle entre la nature et l’âme romantique et c’est cette capacité poétique qui la fait si touchante.
    « Ma prochaine symphonie symphonie s’appellera ‘’Clara’’ et j’y peindrai son portrait au moyen de flûtes, de hautbois et de harpes ». Clara reçu en effet la partition de cette Symphonie en Ré mineur le 13 septembre 1841 pour son 22e anniversaire. Toutefois, Schumann la révisera et la réorchestrera quelque années plus tard et ce n’est qu’en 1851 qu’elle prendra sa forme définitive. Cette symphonie pour laquelle Schumann indiqua que les mouvements devaient être joué sans pause, est plus intense, plus troublante. Elle est d’une originalité révolutionnaire; presque tout le matériel s’y développe à partir des motifs annoncés dans la lente introduction.
    De toutes les intégrales parues jusqu’ici, celle de Sawallisch reste l’une des plus homogène, dynamique, fine, réussie et convaincante. Pas de pages mortes ou languissantes dans ce monument où l’orchestre de Dresde s’affirme comme un des meilleurs du monde. Il y a dans cette orchestre un scintillement naturel de la sonorité que Sawallisch sait utilisé pour donner un élan et une légèreté constante à cette intégrale.
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  • @classicalmusicreference
    @classicalmusicreference  5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

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    Robert Schumann (1810-1856) - The Four Symphonies / Overture Op.52
    *Click to activate the English subtitles for the presentation* (00:00-03:52)
    Symphony No.1 in B flat, Op.38 « Spring / Frühlings / Printemps »
    I.Andante poco maestoso - Allegro molto vivace (00:00)
    II.Larghetto (11:30)
    III.Scherzo - Molto Vivace (18:33)
    IV.Allegro animato e grazioso (23:58)
    Overture, Scherzo and Finale, Op.52
    I.Ouvertüre ; Andante con molto - allegro (32:15)
    II.Scherzo - Vivo (38:50)
    III.Finale - Allegro molto vivace (42:42)
    Symphony No.2 in C, Op.61
    I.Sostenuto assai - Allegro ma non troppo (49:18)
    II.Scherzo - Allegro vivace (1:01:47)
    III.Adagio espressivo (1:08:31)
    IV.Allegro molto vivace (1:18:51)
    Symphony No.3 in E flat, Op.97 « Rhenish / Rheinische / Rhénane »
    I.Lebhaft (1:27:02)
    II.Scherzo - Sehr mäßig (1:35:59)
    III.Nicht schnell (1:42:41)
    IV.Feierlich (1:48:11)
    V.Lebhaft (1:55:04)
    Symphony No.4 in D minor, Op.120
    I.Ziemlich langsam - Lebhaft (2:00:36)
    II.Romanze - Ziemlich langsam (2:10:55)
    III.Scherzo - Lebhaft (2:15:05)
    IV.Langsam - Lebhaft (2:21:55)
    Staatskapelle Dresden
    Wolfgang Sawallisch
    Recorded in 1972
    🔊 FOLLOW US on SPOTIFY (Profil: CMRR) : spoti.fi/3016eVr
    🔊 Download CMRR's recordings in High fidelity audio (QOBUZ) : bit.ly/2M1Eop2
    Le mariage de Schumann avec Clara Wieck en 1840 eut pour effet de changer radicalement la nature de sa production créative. Avant 1840, il n’avait composé presque que pour le piano, pourtant, après son mariage, par comparaison, il n’écrivit guère pour son propre instrument. Clara écrivit dans son journal (1839) que son plus ‘grand désir’ était que Robert composât pour l’orchestre. Deux ans après (1841), les Schumann enfin installés dans un bonheur familial, la Symphonie « Le Printemps/Spring » était née. La première execution eut lieu à Leipzig le 31 mars 1841 sous la direction de Mendelssohn. Son exubérance, sa poésie et son originalité firent bonne impression. C’est pourquoi Schumann se lança immédiatement dans une autre oeuvre symphonique.
    La Symphonie No.2 en en Ut Majeur a toujours été un peu comme la Cendrillon des symphonies de Schumann, moins jouée que les trois autres. Mais bien qu’elle dévoile sans doute ses beautés plus lentement que ses compagnes, c’est un ouvrage d’une puissance irrésistible, dont la conception classique s’avère la plus imposante parmi les symphonies de Schumann. Peut-être l’apport le plus original et le plus important de Schumann à la forme symphonique fut-il sa technique de relation entre les thèmes et de métamorphose d’un mouvement à l’autre. Mais, plus révélateur encore, est l’art dont Schumann traite la mélodie de l’Adagio : poignante, troublante, elle est développée de manière approfondie dans des étoffes musicales d’une grave beauté puis, dans une transformation inspirée, elle réapparaît comme le second sujet du finale.
    En 1850, les Schumann quitte Dresde pour Düsseldorf où Robert est nommé directeur musicale de l’orchestre de la ville. Il aimait la Rhénanie depuis longtemps; aussi s’enflamma-t-il à l'idée de composer une symphonie qui célébrât cette région riche en associations légendaires et historiques. On peut dire que la Rhénane est la plus belle, sans doute la plus joyeuse et la plus spontanée des dernières oeuvres symphoniques de Schumann. Sa volonté descriptive initiale s’est élargie à cette correspondance essentielle entre la nature et l’âme romantique et c’est cette capacité poétique qui la fait si touchante.
    « Ma prochaine symphonie symphonie s’appellera ‘’Clara’’ et j’y peindrai son portrait au moyen de flûtes, de hautbois et de harpes ». Clara reçu en effet la partition de cette Symphonie en Ré mineur le 13 septembre 1841 pour son 22e anniversaire. Toutefois, Schumann la révisera et la réorchestrera quelque années plus tard et ce n’est qu’en 1851 qu’elle prendra sa forme définitive. Cette symphonie pour laquelle Schumann indiqua que les mouvements devaient être joué sans pause, est plus intense, plus troublante. Elle est d’une originalité révolutionnaire; presque tout le matériel s’y développe à partir des motifs annoncés dans la lente introduction.
    De toutes les intégrales parues jusqu’ici, celle de Sawallisch reste l’une des plus homogène, dynamique, fine, réussie et convaincante. Pas de pages mortes ou languissantes dans ce monument où l’orchestre de Dresde s’affirme comme un des meilleurs du monde. Il y a dans cette orchestre un scintillement naturel de la sonorité que Sawallisch sait utilisé pour donner un élan et une légèreté constante à cette intégrale.
    Mendelssohn - Complete Symphonies No.1,2,3,4,5 (recording of the Century : Wolfgang Sawallisch) th-cam.com/video/mo_1CdiehDI/w-d-xo.html&list=PL3UZpQL9LIxNEOECwK4VjfNazYgWVbApx
    Robert Schumann PLAYLIST (reference recordings) th-cam.com/video/bO3xM__qNTA/w-d-xo.html

  • @lionelthiebaud7081
    @lionelthiebaud7081 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Certainement l'intégrale la plus équilibrée, la plus inspirée, la plus merveilleuse entre toutes des symphonies de Schumann que j'adore, merci Dresde, Sawalisch et surtout l'immense Schumann, mon Robert Schumann

  • @michaelletellier218
    @michaelletellier218 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    It was my great good fortune to have met and worked with Maestro Sawallisch at EMI. Invariably courteous and smiling, he was a gentleman, unassuming and, despite his international stature and reputation, a man without attitude. A man to respect. This shines through the remarkable recordings he made, of which the Schumann set is simply a delight, illustrating the musicality and understanding he brought to the podium. With many thanks for sharing this.

    • @wjlis79
      @wjlis79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How lucky you were to meet such a great man. I admire his Mendelssohn symphony cycle and he has ruined all other versions of Mendelssohn's symphonies for me, because they are the gold standard!

    • @peteklat
      @peteklat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't I know you?

    • @michaelletellier218
      @michaelletellier218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@peteklat I thought you did? You appear to have no knowledge of me since I left the SABC.

  • @user-zm3qk9cc9r
    @user-zm3qk9cc9r 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    hello? This is Jeongmin Lee. Thank you for uploading good music. This one seems to have a slightly higher frequency than the 440, but it feels a bit more flashy, so I really like it!

  • @kenm.3512
    @kenm.3512 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    This is a Schumann set of remarkable consistency. A reference set if there ever was one. This is conducting and playing of the highest level. An astonishing achievement.

    • @liauchungren848
      @liauchungren848 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes YOU have good ears. I am fortunate enough to own this set of CD, a most powerful, scintillating, thoroughly convincing, compelling authoritative interpretation of Robert Schumann's great 4 Symphonies, nothing comes this close. This historical recording have set a shining, if not everlasting highest standard for Schumann Symphonies. Every pieces are breathtakingly conducted to a perfection, an imaging of the scores are just so wonderful. Great milestone in the interpretation of Schumann's score which dwarfed all other maestros of his time. Listen to the majestic finale of Symphony No.2 when trumpets shout out triumphantly pointing towards the heaven accompanied by most grand beatings of the timpani, it is a tear-jerker. Bravo Maestro thank you so much for your great Music, may you rest in Heaven.

  • @jamesneumann5561
    @jamesneumann5561 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Perfection! Best version ever! I never knew what a genius Robert Schumann was until I heard the Sawallisch versions. This man was a genius, as was Robert Schumann. Thanks to both geniuses for allowing me to enjoy your music for a brief period on this little planet.

    • @pelmfbpndd7065
      @pelmfbpndd7065 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      well and high presumably even more in his potential , ...,

  • @shin-i-chikozima
    @shin-i-chikozima ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The wonderfulness and greatness of Wolfgang Sawallisch‘s Schmann are unrivaled , indescribable and outclassing .
    His wonderful performance knows no borders

  • @jamesneumann5561
    @jamesneumann5561 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The greatest! Sawallisch and Schumann together is like Solti and Gotterdammerung, the best of the best.

  • @edwardnah4718
    @edwardnah4718 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Great symphonies, fantastically beautiful, highly romantic, great combinations of epic and lyric phrases, absolutely addictive!!! I believe Schumann's symphonies are way too much underrated though he is indeed top class of classical musicians.

    • @pelmfbpndd7065
      @pelmfbpndd7065 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i think at least in "context of "certain "circumstances and "politically aspects here and there "there "sofar very sure

  • @simonkawasaki4229
    @simonkawasaki4229 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I’ve never heard Schumann, with his huge enthusiasm and over-abundance of orchestral ideas, so finely executed by any orchestra. Sawallisch interprets Schumann in Schumann’s way, adhering strictly to the interestingly scrupulous dynamic markings for different parts in the symphonies, creating a sonically masterful experience!!

    • @classicalmusicreference
      @classicalmusicreference  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, this is one of the best integrals. There is, however, an extra-terrestrial who performed a miracle in a single take in 1953: th-cam.com/video/LbyEiplksn0/w-d-xo.html

    • @kennethdower7425
      @kennethdower7425 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Quite so.

  • @fe12rrps
    @fe12rrps 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This 72 cycle is one of the best symphony cycle performances.

    • @stevesincock6905
      @stevesincock6905 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes it is. Superb. Excellent upload too.

  • @kurtkaufman
    @kurtkaufman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow! I never have heard these symphonies played this way. I think it's a combination of slightly brighter tempos and "live", well-balanced recording, and, of course, the conductor and players. Thanks for making this available.

  • @maglinantmesothelioma
    @maglinantmesothelioma 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Your uploading of Mendelssohn's complete symphonies conducted by Sawallish was a pure beauty. And I think this is even better.

  • @peterjunge1639
    @peterjunge1639 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The slow opening of the 2nd symfony is mesmerizing. A great performance.

  • @jamesscottvideos
    @jamesscottvideos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thought I knew Schumann's symphonies, and then I heard these. A fantastic, well-oiled machine of a performance. Bravo.

  • @notaire2
    @notaire2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Klare und wunderschöne Interpretation dieser gesamten Sinfonien von Schumann mit gut harmonisierten und perfekt synchronisierten Tönen aller Instrumente. Der intelligente Maestro dirigiert das ausgezeichnete und gut balancierte Orchester im inspirierenden Tempo und mit möglichst effektiver Dynamik. Einfach wunderbar!

  • @judithnelson1665
    @judithnelson1665 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These are fantastic, so nuanced.Still, much to be said too for the majesty and accent, shape of Szell's Cleveland version. How fortunate we are to have both!

  • @richardcleveland8549
    @richardcleveland8549 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've heard all of the symphonies many times over the years, but I really like being able to listen ad seriatim. Thanks, as always for posting these superb performances.

    • @maryannruprecht2200
      @maryannruprecht2200 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you I so appreciate your using the Latin “ad seriatim”...my new word for the day”

    • @richardcleveland8549
      @richardcleveland8549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maryannruprecht2200 Any time, Ma'mselle!

  • @DavidPerez-wd6tx
    @DavidPerez-wd6tx 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Exelente colección,las bellas sinfonías del genial Rschumann, gracias 👌❤🎉

  • @williamsu5552
    @williamsu5552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this channel always brings out definitive versions 🤩

  • @sleort42
    @sleort42 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sawallisch conducting Schumann is an excellent marriage

  • @edwardnah6739
    @edwardnah6739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Schumann had FIRES in his heart but wanted to express differently from Beethoven and Schubert. And for that, Sawallisch expressed all with abundant, powerful, beautiful, and very weighted ways..

  • @alecwilliams7111
    @alecwilliams7111 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's easy to forget today that what we're hearing here is a revolution in sound--new music of the early Romantic era. This is the shock of the new, not the dust of the old.

  • @aaronjohns3997
    @aaronjohns3997 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    amazing and beautiful. I'm so glad you got these back ; )

  • @shin-i-chikozima
    @shin-i-chikozima 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's very wonderful to listen to all the symphonies In one place without any hassle

  • @stevesincock6905
    @stevesincock6905 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for posting these seminal recordings in such good sound.

  • @brautigan81
    @brautigan81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so beautiful. Amazing recording. So luscious.

  • @alecwilliams7111
    @alecwilliams7111 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Schumann was also a noted writer and critic. His stuff still makes good reading.

  • @Protenor
    @Protenor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is very good, Schumann's symphonies are beautiful. A very good channel... I was especially amazed to find Stockmeier's organ recordings of Bach's works because I thought I was the only one who thought of them as reference recordings

    • @classicalmusicreference
      @classicalmusicreference  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks ! We hope to publish soon its integral (Stockmeier) :-)

    • @maxfochtmann9576
      @maxfochtmann9576 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The same. Schumans symphonies are a world of their own.

  • @antoniocarlosantunesantune3217
    @antoniocarlosantunesantune3217 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great recording ! Excellent sound and interpretation! Amazing!

  • @mechanicaldidgeridoo5741
    @mechanicaldidgeridoo5741 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic music presented by amazing orchestral musicians!

  • @TheMuston
    @TheMuston ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:48:11 "Feierlich" of the 3d Symphony: gigantic, extraordinary rendition.

  • @giovannirivoira5496
    @giovannirivoira5496 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Philips recordings.Beautiful symphonies and great Conductor.Thank you so much!!!

  • @angelitalegion6165
    @angelitalegion6165 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    UN.GENIO.SCHUMANN.GRACIAS.POR.COMPARTIRLO.LA.ORQUESTA.Y.ELDIRECTOR.IMPECABLES!!!!!!!

  • @A.I.W.M.F
    @A.I.W.M.F 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's so beautiful. Thank you

  • @RedCloudBeechWaveAhh
    @RedCloudBeechWaveAhh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this... so beautiful

  • @edwardnah4718
    @edwardnah4718 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Like Brahms' 1/2/3/4, Schumann's 1/2/3/4 all have great value of musical impressions. Schumann and Schubert musics are good for approach and enjoy with dignity and beauties of classical music.

  • @zenonlopezwallace568
    @zenonlopezwallace568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Schumann...in the great tradition of german music...That now belongs to the entire world...A God send contribution to humankind ...God bless his tortured soul..

  • @dejanstevanic5408
    @dejanstevanic5408 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Golden standard. Thank you.

  • @guilhemchameyrat
    @guilhemchameyrat 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sawallisch nous offre une vision dépoussiérée et légère de Schumann. Il faut reconnaître que c'est engageant : mes oreilles apprécient ! Ces interprétations nous changes de la vision traditionaliste que l'on a l'habitude d'écouter ( George Szell par exemple ). Merci d'avoir mis en ligne ces Symphonies de grandes qualités.

  • @fernandofernandezgar
    @fernandofernandezgar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wolfgang Sawallisch, the last Kapellmeister.

  • @kendrickparks9129
    @kendrickparks9129 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a tradition of listening to Schumann's symphonies every spring....and griefs holberg suite every winter

  • @CaroleHoldem-lh4np
    @CaroleHoldem-lh4np ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Schumann Symphonies .Enjoyed 1_4 Thank You ⭐️🎶🎶@ Classical Music /Reference ⭐️✨✨10.40pm

  • @elianeluty2065
    @elianeluty2065 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Merci beaucoup

  • @bienvenidopena4937
    @bienvenidopena4937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Schuman , profundamente inspirador, que enseña desde el fondo de las nobles almas

  • @eporze
    @eporze 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gran interpretacio'n,principalmente en la Obertura Schezo y Finale!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.-

  • @musicaantigua869
    @musicaantigua869 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Muchas gracias classical music y saludos cordiales desde Mallorca para vosotros

  • @Carlos-qz7ul
    @Carlos-qz7ul 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Incroyable ! 🙆

  • @armandogonella2770
    @armandogonella2770 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ECCELLENTE S A W A L L I S C H PER GRANDISSIMO S C H U M A N N !

  • @bellpraise
    @bellpraise 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hello! Thank you ~~ as always. You make me having a high hope, what's the next gonna be.Again, you've given me a lot of help to taste a variety of clasic musics. And I love THE BETH enough to get a pic of him on. And I'd like to ask you a favor, if i may, among your all uploads , there's no piano concert at all composed by THE BETH. You know what i mean. I just want to download yours. I LIKE YOUR STYE.Thank you for excellent uploads.

    • @classicalmusicreference
      @classicalmusicreference  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you my little brother Beethoven. There is already the Emperor concerto in this documentary about Arrau (time 42:14)
      (th-cam.com/video/lqFGXwomwOw/w-d-xo.html). Yes it's true, the complete concertos are missing; soon, soon .. Thank you :-)

    • @bellpraise
      @bellpraise 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@classicalmusicreference Looking forward to them 😍🌷🧚‍♂️👏💖🌻,brother

  • @davidjaumot5332
    @davidjaumot5332 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gran integral de esta musica con los Dresde, sobre todo la 4 con una ejecucion unica , esta version de la 4 jumto con la de Furtwangler con los berliner las mejores para mi gusto.Los Dresde hacen un papel impresionante con jnz grabacion insuperable y un sawallisch sublime muy recomendable

  • @romeupitz9834
    @romeupitz9834 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Obrigado!!!

  • @theodentherenewed4785
    @theodentherenewed4785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Schumann no. 3 has amazing opening bars, the same can be said about Beethoven no. 5, Brahms no. 3 and 4 or Elgar no. 1. I don't think Schumann is as good as Brahms, but symphonies no. 3 and no. 2 are still very good and these are superb renditions. No. 3 is actually the best I have ever heard. It's phenomenal how it's balanced and the crescendos here and there are just perfectly judged.

  • @aaronjohns3997
    @aaronjohns3997 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've tried searching all over but could never find the complete Symphonies with Fürtwangler. Missing the Rhenish symphony, my favorite. I like the sets with Klemperer and Szell and Karajan.

    • @stevesincock6905
      @stevesincock6905 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes the Karajan is a classic set. It divides opinion though. He is pretty much persona non grata these days. His conducting style & aesthetic approach to music being irrelevant. It's astonishing. And deeply ignorant. He was indulged & over recorded - but there are amongst his 200 or so a significant number of high quality recordings which have stood the test of time. And some that are definitive.

  • @janisauzins4103
    @janisauzins4103 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:33:47 I wonder if conductors might sometimes deliberately play this so that it would sound as much like the ending of Die Walküre as possible

  • @molocious
    @molocious ปีที่แล้ว

    Am I hearing an unpleasant tapping sound caused by the unpadded sticks used on the timpanies?

  • @lyovmyshkin7561
    @lyovmyshkin7561 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will make the audience an offer they can not refuse.

  • @nicolapascoli4580
    @nicolapascoli4580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really think that Sawallisch's cycle is maybe the best in Schumann( at the same level very few others versions)

  • @edwardnah4718
    @edwardnah4718 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Obviously, Schumann had add-on musical ideas from the accumulations of Beethoven and Schubert and expressed different and add-on beauties of musical soul. I hope I will have chance to conduct all 4 Symphonies in the near future.

  • @jorgeluisarguero2072
    @jorgeluisarguero2072 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please,
    It is possible for you to separate this recording
    from 02:28:23 on the two CDs of the album.??
    1 - 11 traks
    2 - 08 traks
    Sorry excuse and thank you very much.!
    If you can, fine and if you can not,
    all OK and no problem.!!

    • @classicalmusicreference
      @classicalmusicreference  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Symphony No.1 in B flat, Op.38 « Spring / Frühlings / Printemps »
      I.Andante poco maestoso - Allegro molto vivace (00:00)
      II.Larghetto (11:30)
      III.Scherzo - Molto Vivace (18:33)
      IV.Allegro animato e grazioso (23:58)
      Overture, Scherzo and Finale, Op.52
      I.Ouvertüre ; Andante con molto - allegro (32:15)
      II.Scherzo - Vivo (38:50)
      III.Finale - Allegro molto vivace (42:42)
      Symphony No.2 in C, Op.61
      I.Sostenuto assai - Allegro ma non troppo (49:18)
      II.Scherzo - Allegro vivace (1:01:47)
      III.Adagio espressivo (1:08:31)
      IV.Allegro molto vivace (1:18:51)
      Symphony No.3 in E flat, Op.97 « Rhenish / Rheinische / Rhénane »
      I.Lebhaft (1:27:02)
      II.Scherzo - Sehr mäßig (1:35:59)
      III.Nicht schnell (1:42:41)
      IV.Feierlich (1:48:11)
      V.Lebhaft (1:55:04)
      Symphony No.4 in D minor, Op.120
      I.Ziemlich langsam - Lebhaft (2:00:36)
      II.Romanze - Ziemlich langsam (2:10:55)
      III.Scherzo - Lebhaft (2:15:05)
      IV.Langsam - Lebhaft (2:21:55)

    • @jorgeluisarguero2072
      @jorgeluisarguero2072 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you very much for your kind answer.
      It is also in the "posted message" of 2 months ago.
      But I want to pass the video (converter) to mp3 CD-R
      and it is very long, like my years (66) and I do not
      understand well. Thanks again and. . .
      Greetings from Buenos Aires.!
      www.onlinevideoconverter.com/es/youtube-converter

  • @edwardnah6739
    @edwardnah6739 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1/2/3/4 are equally superior as like Brahms 1/2/3/4 and are very beautifully romantic. Swellfish's recordings of 1/2/3/4 may be the first class for several centuries till end of Classical music (?) because of clarities, straight forward interpretations, abundant romanticism inside, and passion for Spirits of Rhine.

  • @Egobaldo
    @Egobaldo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Schumann is Beethoven's symphonist heir.

    • @calebhu6383
      @calebhu6383 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Beethoven/Schubert -> Schumann -> Brahms

    • @kendrickparks9129
      @kendrickparks9129 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Schubert; hold my Austrian beer

  • @jesslyn4919
    @jesslyn4919 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    💋

  • @peacemaker7645
    @peacemaker7645 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:48:11 💜💙💚💛🧡❤👍👍👍☮

  • @dabedwards
    @dabedwards 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A personal view: I would rather hear a symphony by Schumann than his contemporaries on account of the pure joy of music making, the startling originality, and the spontaneous warmth of feeling that shines out. I admire and love the Brahms symphonies, but you are always aware of the work that went into them. Their impeccable good taste can become tiresome. Not so with Schumann.

    • @Danlovar
      @Danlovar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nothing that a good conductor cannot cure.

  • @pacz8114
    @pacz8114 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The commercial interruptions render this useless. Go with Sir Jon Eliot Gardner -- no interruptions on that presentation.

    • @kennethdower7425
      @kennethdower7425 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dumb recommendation on this great upload. You should stop complaining and just install an adblocker.

    • @pacz8114
      @pacz8114 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kennethdower7425 The critique is valid and important for those expecting a proper (and respectful) presentation of significant art.

    • @kennethdower7425
      @kennethdower7425 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pacz8114 Wrong. Did you ever consider the fact you're simply a pretentious idiot? Look into it. Good Luck!

    • @henrik5284
      @henrik5284 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pacz8114 In that case why would you choose to listen to the squashed dynamics of music on TH-cam?

    • @pacz8114
      @pacz8114 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@henrik5284 TH-cam is merely a convenience when I'm away from my stereo.

  • @mokaccino1
    @mokaccino1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Effettivamente la musica proposta da sawallisch e` la piu`originale ancora oggi delle sinfonie di Schumann. Finora le avevo sempre paragonate a Beethoven e Brahms... Questa volta sono riuscito a ciogliere il loro aspetto originale senza alcun rapporto con i predecessori o successori del compositore.... Lo so`che probabilmente dico solo schiocchezze ma mi sembra di aver capito in questa versione quello che ci voleva dire il Maestro Schumann..... La forsa di espressione die questa versione e`diversa da quelle che avevo udito finora.....

    • @classicalmusicreference
      @classicalmusicreference  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Grazie per il tuo commento. Sebbene fosse difficile per i compositori del tempo comporre dopo Beethoven, Schumann riuscì a decelerare la propria identità :-)

    • @mokaccino1
      @mokaccino1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Beethoven e` il musicista che ha iniziato la rivoluzione musicale che portera`alla musica moderna, per cui non ha una nazionalita`... diciamo che era "Europeo" e non solo tedesco. E`chiaro che la Rivoluzione Francese e soprattutto Napoleone hanno cambiato il modo di pernsare di tutti gli europei, fino in Russia, le persone si sentivano piu`liberi ed indipendenti (almeno ideologicamente....).
      Gli Italiani ed i Francesi hanno "cominciato" la storia della musica in Europa, soprattutto nel Rinascimento, i Tedeschi/Asutriaci/Ungheresi (o Germani....) l`hanno portata ai livelli piu`alti di espressione.... pero`Beethoven ha scritto nelle sue ultime opere (penso soprattutto alla la nona sinfonia....) una musica che deve ancora essere scritta..., che non e`mai piu`stata sviliuppata dopo di lui, ma da cui sono "partiti" tutti i suoi successori.
      In Schumann si sente anche la voglia di liberta`, la forza romantica di chi vuole cambiare qualcosa con la sua musica
      @@classicalmusicreference

  • @ericnisula8095
    @ericnisula8095 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Schumann's symphonies may not be as good as those of Brahms, but I think his themes are more fetching and charismatic. There is a joyous flair to them we don't hear in Brahms.

    • @kennethdower7425
      @kennethdower7425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not as good? Overall, they are much better.

    • @judithnelson1665
      @judithnelson1665 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Musicians I have spoken to prefer Schumann.

  • @GoldinDr
    @GoldinDr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The liner notes are nauseating. Rock-solid performances though.

  • @rubenbardancavarela3028
    @rubenbardancavarela3028 ปีที่แล้ว

    Deslike, there are too many ads.

  • @RoyBrener
    @RoyBrener 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good but too fast.. Tempo by Furtwängler and VPO is unmatched..

    • @jamesneumann5561
      @jamesneumann5561 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Too fast connoisseurs: I love Otto Klemperer's version of Beethoven's fifth symphony with the Philharmonia orchestra. So slow, but absolutely majestic and unforgettable. Every other interpretation of this symphony to me now sounds comically fast.

  • @mikebutcher2695
    @mikebutcher2695 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ads between movements I can live with. Ads in the middle of a movement is unacceptable......... no subscription for me; I'll go elsewhere.

    • @kennethdower7425
      @kennethdower7425 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You couldn't afford a free adblocker? Too bad for you, so long!

  • @DanielLopez-zt4ig
    @DanielLopez-zt4ig 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like Szell better.

    • @kennethdower7425
      @kennethdower7425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Useless "comment". Bravo 👏

    • @DanielLopez-zt4ig
      @DanielLopez-zt4ig 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kennethdower7425 are you trying to find the perfect comment in YT? Because there is not, and this is something your almost 300 subscribers should tell you by now.

    • @kennethdower7425
      @kennethdower7425 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DanielLopez-zt4ig Another useless "comment" from you. Obviously, you're an arrogant angry nitwit who possesses all the intelligence and grace of a garden slug.