I think the reason why is because DJ WAS a part of the Act 2, Murder on the Owl Express. I mean, he was the one behind the shady voice on the telephone. Still, I see your point, it makes a lot more sense for the Conducter to use the knife.
@Fluffyrox Really? Color me impressed, since for me, Mafia Boss was hard. It was probably because of the very limited battleground compared to everyone else, but...Still, fairly impressed.
@@browneburbs5377 I've only got like 30 attempts on the mafia boss but seriously hate it. I'm yet to beat him but I could probably do it next time I play TBH.
Holy crap, DJ Grooves's voice lines We already knew Conductor had a couple dozen screws loose, but Grooves sounds like he's losing his marbles as the fight goes on. Beautifully done
One line for the fight that didn’t make it into the game really emphasizes this and that is “L E M M E C U T A L I T T L E H O L E I N Y A D A R L I N !”
I always like the duality of their reasoning. Grooves can’t accept his losses, so he’s convinced himself that the conductor is a cheater, rather than having outdone him. The conductor admits he lost one award, but he’s so pompous he wants all of them, even if he lost one of them genuinely.
Also I’d like to add to this When you decline their offer to spare them a Time Piece, they seem to acknowledge how their motives seem: Conductor: “You’re a *greedy* young lass, aren’t yer?” DJ Grooves: “Darling, darling, darling. You’re so persistently *selfish.* “ Conductor’s motive is greedy whilst DJ Grooves’ motive is selfish
@@Dragonmongamer indeed, that’s a good observation. In addition, it’s interesting to see how it shines a light on their characters and voice direction in the fight. We always knew the Conductor was egotistical, but that’s ramped up to 11 in his fight, he’s at his angriest when he’s at his most greedy. Grooves always seemed nicer, but he was merely hiding his mania from Hat Kid. And with his back against the wall, it all comes out the floodgates, resulting in the demented screams Grooves is known for in this boss fight. Grooves has become so selfish he’s cast aside everything except the awards that he cares so much about.
I like the mechanic where you choose who you fight, even though you don't realize that you're doing that, because most first-time players will choose the character who they like better to win
Its not a choice who you fight, its who received more pts from you playing their levels. Unless you dont want who has the most pts when you can first pick either yes or no. In that case you have to pick no and go back and play the one you want to wins old levels all over and try to beat the other guys score.
@@JustARegularOlNut It's not really "choosing" who you fight though, you don't make a conscious decision of which character gets more points, one of them just does depending on your performance. You *could* go back and get more points for your favourite character, but most people don't really do that.
I personally loved the DJ Grooves boss fight because it was such a drastic break in character that it kinda terrified me on my first playthrough. Also him just whipping out a knife also felt pretty jarring.
I honestly don't know who out of the two is more petty: the conductor or DJ Groves. The conductor wants to use it to take back one trophy which clearly was fairly won by DJ Groves. However on the flipside DJ Groves wants to rewind time to take ALL the trophies he didn't win from the conductor which he fairly won since there is no proof he cheated and probably was just the more popular character with better movies. Regardless of which one you pick the greed is present due to pride and it kind of makes it feel regardless of which you pick there is no winner cus they are equally as bad as the other for wanting to pull that kind of stunt.
Yeah, you get the sense that underneath it all- Conductor and DJ Grooves aren't so different from each other. Which can be both a bad thing (as seen here) and a good thing (the other one defusing the bomb, or how innocently their movie dreams started out).
will conductor wants a trphy from groves but conductor has a lot of trphys and groves one so it is farile ov that groves wants all the trphys from conductor isint that ov...
I personally enjoyed both characters equally, but I feel like fighting DJ Grooves was better storywise. DJ Grooves really does seem like the guy that could rig awards in his favor and get away with it. The music and the heart-to-heart also seem like they'd be more suited to his fight. The Conductor may have an aggressive personality, but he did seem like he genuinely cared for Hat Kid. And him defusing the bomb just makes more sense idk. I did it in my playthrough and it ultimately seemed better. His enraged dialogue just fit the fight more. The division between the bosses only makes the game better tho. It's just a shame the fights are so similar. Makes sense though.
Yeah I agree with you. It feels like The Conductor truly cares and appreciates what hat kid did even with the fact that he can be aggressive and sometimes a jerk to her. Meanwhile with DJ grooves this boss is much more fit because when you think about it, even tho he was nice the whole time it feels like DJ grooves shows how upset he is due to the amount of times he lost compared to The Conductor even tho he just won and it feels like he takes out all of his anger at once at the first person he can think of. He is tired from The Conductor's treatment towards him and wants to do anything to win to the point where he is willing to hurt someone who helped him on his way to victory.
It feels like dj grooves was originally going to be the villain no matter what, seeing how all attacks (Exept for the knife) is in his style and level theme. his voices fit more in combat and when the conductor is the villain, dj grooves doesnt have voicelines for saving you.
@@smugsdeadchannellol6184 Playing on the PC version, the Conductor definitely has defusing voice lines. To test it the other way around I would need to go all the way through with another save, but I would bet Grooves has lines too. It's probably just a bug.
The Conductors fight seems a lot less polished and detailed than Grooves'. I wonder if originally Grooves was gonna be the villain no matter what and was changed late development.
To me, the conductor fight feels more polished. The set makes more sense, him having a knife, the bomb, and the set of DJ grooves is weird, and has a lot of graphical bugs. During the final phase, the penguins head stick out of the banners, the arrows during the car attack just kind of meld into the moon, it looks less polished. Plus the fight being conductor fits his character way better. He is a petty, cheap peckneck and he would try to reverse time to win ONE trophy that DJ grooves got.
DemonFish although, there are aspects that fit more with DJ Grooves, such as the heart to heart moment, the conductor having the Disco Ball and the Conductor’s hit box Is actually as big as DJ Grooves’
I love how both bosses have their own set to show there way of making a movie and style of it the conductor has more of a simple design i think it suppose to see that he more old timey for dj grooves is more on the morden side with discord with more colors then the brown in the conductor set i love this fight i think it my favorite so far i havent beat the game but i could tell ill come back for anther run sometime soon
it kinda does tbh? I know they have same move-sets but like I don't see the conductor coming down on a disco ball, a giant sand-bag maybe but not a giant disco ball for sure
Oh well, I ended up fighting DJ. Grooves, which I preferred because the Conductor is my favorite character in the game (alongside the Snatcher) and honestly, I thought they'd put more thought into each fight, like, try to change it up, but I was wrong
Honestly, I wasn't expecting the fight to be "legit". I thought the whole "Battle of the birds" would actually turn out to be a movie staged by both Dj Grooves and the Conductor. Oh well! It would've made for a pretty sick movie though.
Am I the only who thinks it's better to have DJ Grooves be the boss less for the relevance to the boss fight and more so for the motivation behind their actions? DJ Grooves is driven by the motivation to overtake the guy who was constantly winning over and over and over and over again, but the Conductor is only salty about 1 loss. *One*. I feel like it's less detrimental to their character for both of them if DJ Grooves is the guy who tries to take the Time Piece.
I mean if you think about it not really. Seeing as Dj. Grooves was behind the dark voice in the "murder on the owl express" and in one of the trailers Dj. Grooves said he didn't want hat kid to die unless it was by his hands. So if anything Dj. Grooves fits the theme alot better.
DJ grooves definitely has more of an impact but the conductor being the evil one seems to suit the story more. I just wish I got to choose who turned out to be evil
JC Stone I just couldn’t beat the score I had on the conductor levels, even though it wanted DJ to win I couldn’t beat 1200p with his levels cause they were so boring to replay
They couldve changed up some attacks just visually between the two fights, for example... Dj grooves could have a raygun instead of a knife The conductor could drop a pack of dynamite instead of a disco ball DJ grooves could use a rocket instead of dynamite in the second phase Just some examples.
Heya, I'm writing a wattpad book for A Hat In Time, and was wondering if I could use this to make the battle more interesting in my story :0 If you would rather have me not use this I completely understand, since that's why I wanted to check first, but I would of course give credit ^^
My favorite voice lines: *I HATE YOU, DARLINGGGGG!* 6:45 *HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME LASSY* 13:39 *SLICE OF LIGHT* (i dont think i heard it right) 9:01 I love almost all conductor voice lines in this boss
I think I might like DJ's battle a little more. I did both fights and they're both good. I think it has something to do with the voice lines. I'm not sure how to describe it. I guess it's 'refreshing' to hear DJ scream and threaten the player. Dunno why, I just enjoy his lines more.
Battle wise, I think Conductor takes the cake. It kinda feels off to have Grooves wielding a knife, and I absolutely LOVE it when Conductor makes a reference to his movie in the “this one ain’t rubber!” line. But as loads of these comments say, it makes more sense for grooves to fight us in the context we’re in. It’s nice seeing his movie star façade disappear, the oldies music with the diner table during the heart-to-heart, the owls and the fact he kind of doesn’t stand a chance to the conductor. I honestly love these two and I wish that a second AHIT would come out so we could see more of them:
Darling! Come here! I have the defusing device! What? You WANT to explode? That can't happen! Why? Because the boss battle needs to be longer! Also, because the bomb is a nice plot point! BOSS BATTLE! DJ Grooves tries to explode you.
@@atlasguytinyproductions55 Because if he likes the Conductor, he doesn't want to harm him. If he doesn't like DJ Grooves then of course he wants to hurt Grooves.
I read a thing that said it made more sense to fight Conductor/ have him be the one get corrupted by the Time Piece, because he wants the ONE award Grooves won, whereas Grooves has lost like 48 times, he's slightly more justified in his want to go back and win more.
I feel like it gives dj grooves more character. The conductor is selfish and it seems more in line with him. The dj has a better reason AND it would be a cool subversion where you see a darker side of him. Both fights are pretty cool though not gonna lie.
it seems like Grooves is such a charismatic character all throughout and seeing him be the final boss is like catching off guard with the conductor its more like he's always been really self serving and all that but you never thought it'd come to this
What would happen if the player gets the exact same score total in both The Conductor's and DJ Grooves's stages? Which one do you fight? Does the game decide randomly, or does it result in a tie, possibly with extra dialogue? Can somebody please do this? I'd do it myself, but I'm too lazy (plus my computer lags a lot)!
I like how the Conductor is meant to be the obvious, but enjoyable, antagonist, while DJ Grooves serves as the twist villain you would not expect to turn on you.
I think if the boss fights weren’t identical in terms of attacks and instead they had attacks that fit their own characters better or just reskinned attacks it would be better overall.
@@omgitsthefbi772 Tbh yeah, it would've made more sense, as I detailed in some comments above. Both of them would've probably seen the latest loss as the end of their career in cinema.
Nah. I feel like the win makes whichever of the two become over zealous and needy. It gets to their head and makes them want to win more or in conductors case win the one that got away
I revisit this bossfight everytime and always think how the nailed it with a dilemma: Be good at something, yet be whiny when you're not perfect Or Be moderate at something, yet when someone manages to be better than you multiples times, you wish you had everything from them You're gonna take sides with your favorite but they're both still selfish in the end. I love the little details in the game
As many others have told you, the owls are the same owls from the parade level. As for why DJ Grooves even hires the owls in the first place when they usually work for Conductor, I can only assume it’s because the Moon Penguins are terrible at both playing instruments and handling knives.
How can I help you DJ Grooves? I need a time piece to clobbah dat dere Conductah! That's what we do best at MGE! You better get it back with the money back guarntee!
Having the conductor as the evil boss fight makes much more sense to me since he started the train bomb mission where he doesn't even care what would happen to the other owl.
my favorite part is when they start running around the area taunting you for example: 5:02/12:30 somebody should do a video of just them running around lol
Having done both fights, I can say I think that story wise, it fits DJ Grooves way more, especially in the voice line department, the slow deterioration into madness, the whole ‘conductor is a cheater’ part, I know everyone likes conductor more, I do to. But I have to admit- I think grooves just works way better in the narrative
I thought dj grooves was being a good sport with making the movies and i liked that about him and how he acted when we would do his missions. So naturally i preffered to support him more over the missions, after winning that though i thought we were all buddies and such and then “that” happened ;-;.
I love that when your fighting the conducter at one moment hes on the discoball and he says "HERE WE uhhh GOOO!" 'Cause the discoball took a while to fall
i like how when fighting the conductor, he has a more jazzy version of the tune just like how his movies are more western and old fashion like, while DJ Grooves has a more rock and newer era feel just like how his movies have a more newer era feel and also how his movies resembles something more like internet posts and videos.
At first I wanted to battle the conductor but I ended up with *GrOoVeS* So I fought him and when I found out the conductor had to save you from the bomb I loved it
Wow, I didn't even know you can fight the conductor, I must say though, the combat style is much more fitting with DJ Grooves, the use of disco balls, photos, the phrase "lady's and gentlemen" and the parade all seem like things the conductor wouldn't do. The only thing I feel fits the conductor better is the use of a large knife, and when DJ Groves does it it feels more like a hidden psychopathic side rather than unfitting. and on top of that DJ Groves has no voice line in the conductors fight? that's a bit odd. It's clear that they made the fight with the idea that DJ Groves would be the boss and than replaced him with the conductor later. I feel like in this way id almost prefer it to be impossible to fight the conductor, BUT I would have loved to see it be possible but give the conductor his own set of attacks that better fight his style, make it the same length and roughly the same difficulty, but fitting the conductor instead. I do like the middle bit in a way, it makes the conductor look like a complete jerk and DJ Groves has a much larger motive to be trying to kill you than the conductor.
I know I literally just fought it, but The Conductor is straight up my favorite boss fight in video game history. And I say that despite thinking this game is only pretty good so far.
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that one moment when you perfectly dodge every attack from a boss, then miss the perfectly still thing you have to collect twice in a row.
cameron vigil Every Single Time XD
😐😑
That’s me or I’ll mess up on one of the easiest attacks XD
Lol
OMG lol
I understand Conductor having a knife but not DJ Grooves
To be fair, though, why does the Conductor have a disco ball?
John Lewis and saw blades
John Lewis well.. they both share the same studio, I don’t see why not lol
I think the reason why is because DJ WAS a part of the Act 2, Murder on the Owl Express. I mean, he was the one behind the shady voice on the telephone.
Still, I see your point, it makes a lot more sense for the Conducter to use the knife.
Well he is secretly all those voices in the murder mystery..
And now in Death Wish
*you gotta fight both of them-*
That fight was probably my favorite thing from the DLC-pack. Really intense but still fun to take them both on at the same time.
That took me 50+ attempts (more attempts than any other deathwish mind you), but still didn't rage once and enjoyed it thoroughly.
@Fluffyrox
Really? Color me impressed, since for me, Mafia Boss was hard. It was probably because of the very limited battleground compared to everyone else, but...Still, fairly impressed.
@@browneburbs5377 I've only got like 30 attempts on the mafia boss but seriously hate it. I'm yet to beat him but I could probably do it next time I play TBH.
Conductor Grooves
everyone sleeping on how intensely grooves delivers his lines in this fight
ikr
"lmao scottish accent bird"
sometimes I hate this community
Gotta love it. Also, it's Barrett from Machinabridged, so I loved it the whole time.
Holy crap, DJ Grooves's voice lines
We already knew Conductor had a couple dozen screws loose, but Grooves sounds like he's losing his marbles as the fight goes on.
Beautifully done
Voice acting really needs more appreciation.
Exactly this! And it's no wonder too, having lost so many times. People missed that because lol funny scottish accent, kinda sad tbh.
BRO I CAN AGREE WITH THIS-
One line for the fight that didn’t make it into the game really emphasizes this and that is “L E M M E C U T A L I T T L E H O L E I N Y A D A R L I N !”
Yeah
I always like the duality of their reasoning. Grooves can’t accept his losses, so he’s convinced himself that the conductor is a cheater, rather than having outdone him. The conductor admits he lost one award, but he’s so pompous he wants all of them, even if he lost one of them genuinely.
Also I’d like to add to this
When you decline their offer to spare them a Time Piece, they seem to acknowledge how their motives seem:
Conductor: “You’re a *greedy* young lass, aren’t yer?”
DJ Grooves: “Darling, darling, darling. You’re so persistently *selfish.* “
Conductor’s motive is greedy whilst DJ Grooves’ motive is selfish
@@Dragonmongamer indeed, that’s a good observation. In addition, it’s interesting to see how it shines a light on their characters and voice direction in the fight. We always knew the Conductor was egotistical, but that’s ramped up to 11 in his fight, he’s at his angriest when he’s at his most greedy. Grooves always seemed nicer, but he was merely hiding his mania from Hat Kid. And with his back against the wall, it all comes out the floodgates, resulting in the demented screams Grooves is known for in this boss fight. Grooves has become so selfish he’s cast aside everything except the awards that he cares so much about.
Grooves:
- Discoball
- Photographs
- Cars
- Parade Owls
- Heart-to-heart
Conductor:
- Knives
- Sawblades
- Timebomb
- Disregard for lives
i would rather on the conducter cuz the parade owls mades it 100x raging
@@bbree_ The conductor has the parade owls to. At least he did for me and I literally fought him for the first time today.
@@Guardian-of-Light137 same I got parade owls. Today too funny enough
@@Guardian-of-Light137 Yeah, there are also the parade owls in the boss, that's why you got it.
You still have parade owls for conductor
King Dedede VS. Scottish Birb
Mettaton PINGU vs The Smash Announcer!
Or as I prefer:
Penguin Presley vs Scottish Myerrrrrrrderrrrrerrrr
King Dedede vs. Scrooge McDuck
JustAnArrogantAlien King Dedede vs Freddy Fazbear
Only RandomEncounters fans will get the reference
Myrder!
How about
King dedede mocker vs Scottish train bird
*S L I C E O F L I F E*
T H I S O N E A I N T R U B B E R
_I H A T E Y O U D A R L I N G_
P E C K N E C K
A W A R D 4 2
T A A A K E T H A A A T
I like the mechanic where you choose who you fight, even though you don't realize that you're doing that, because most first-time players will choose the character who they like better to win
Its not a choice who you fight, its who received more pts from you playing their levels. Unless you dont want who has the most pts when you can first pick either yes or no. In that case you have to pick no and go back and play the one you want to wins old levels all over and try to beat the other guys score.
@@derkwest i know it's a bit old but like what you described is the mechanic of choosing who you fight
@@JustARegularOlNut It's not really "choosing" who you fight though, you don't make a conscious decision of which character gets more points, one of them just does depending on your performance. You *could* go back and get more points for your favourite character, but most people don't really do that.
@@staticchimera44 I did. The Conductor is pretty stuck up.
@@TheFinalChapters That's fair lmao
tfw, you're on a date and the guy straps a bomb to ya. #JustGirlyThings
I know this is a joke but im happy that you only got 19 likes from a comment from a year ago
Acuario 546 same and i liked the comment
#JustPeckyThings
I love how dj grooves just has a microphone but the conductor has an actual hecking knife
He has a knife too
ohhhhhh.
I just had a thought what if the death-wish battle was filmed as a collaboration between DJ Grooves and The Conductor
@@mr.mcmeme2638 that’s what should’ve happened if you tied
@@mr.mcmeme2638 The death wish description is literally "This next project is a collaboration..."
Take a shot every time he says darling
*wait*
13:09 did you hear what he said?
I want to make it a meme
@@nataliehancock6286 ill give up darling?
Natalie hancock he said better hurry up Darlin' or Darling
toad rojo He said better hurry up Darlin' / Darling
Your drunk now
The conductor is one of my favorite characters in a hat in time.
Asher Ingraham mine is the snatcher
Karen Berthel yeah but it’s how you beat him. It took me a couple of attempts to beat, not as bad as the mafia boss.
Yeah i love his accent also while fighting him he says gentlemen sometime/s LOL
He’s my favorite character
Conductor= My favorite character
Disco Dedede thats calls you Darling vs Train Conductor Owl-Thing that voiced by the Announcer from Smash 4. Who will win?
Grooves is King Dedede. I mean.. They're both fat blue penguins..
wait the conductor is voiced by the smash 4 announcer
Conductor all the way
He's also Ren/Akira/Joker
depressed man r/woosh
There is an Equal Amount of Grooves and Conductor.
Parade Birds and Disco Ball - Grooves.
Bomb and Knife - Conductor.
Sonia Naisser Car.
There's also the saws and moon cars
You forgot saws and cars
Saws work more for Conductor, and the cars for Grooves imo
and colliding cars and buzzsaws
Ladies and...
...
...
...
GENTLEMEN!
I noticed that’s it’s weird and funny I kinda laugh when I just go back for shits and giggles to fight the Conductor
Here we ...
eh ?
GOOOOO !
I was reading this when he said that
Im the 400th
we gottem
I personally loved the DJ Grooves boss fight because it was such a drastic break in character that it kinda terrified me on my first playthrough. Also him just whipping out a knife also felt pretty jarring.
For me, the conductor just casually whipping a knife out kinda got me. Like just:
"Okay so he likes bombs, I can work with tha- OH MY GOD."
@@Blind_Eye046”THIS ONE AINT RUBBER!”
@@macmadness5932 "AaAaAaAaAAAAAAAA-"
9:28 the first photo triggers the wave before landing Lmao.
S'posed to happen.
Ny'rese Jones That is not supposed to happen
Carlos E Murillo it combusted too soon lol
I honestly don't know who out of the two is more petty: the conductor or DJ Groves. The conductor wants to use it to take back one trophy which clearly was fairly won by DJ Groves. However on the flipside DJ Groves wants to rewind time to take ALL the trophies he didn't win from the conductor which he fairly won since there is no proof he cheated and probably was just the more popular character with better movies. Regardless of which one you pick the greed is present due to pride and it kind of makes it feel regardless of which you pick there is no winner cus they are equally as bad as the other for wanting to pull that kind of stunt.
Yeah, you get the sense that underneath it all- Conductor and DJ Grooves aren't so different from each other. Which can be both a bad thing (as seen here) and a good thing (the other one defusing the bomb, or how innocently their movie dreams started out).
will conductor wants a trphy from groves but conductor has a lot of trphys and groves one so it is farile ov that groves wants all the trphys from conductor isint that ov...
It helps that Conductor actually made movies and wasn't busy pushing Hat Kid for PR...
Hi
The way I see it, since they both feel entitled to 100% of the awards, that makes them equally petty to me.
Fight fits Conductor more, but the motivation fits DJ Grooves.
*_perfectly balanced, as all things should be_*
Conductor's running animation is killing me XD I love how he flails his arms around
I personally enjoyed both characters equally, but I feel like fighting DJ Grooves was better storywise. DJ Grooves really does seem like the guy that could rig awards in his favor and get away with it. The music and the heart-to-heart also seem like they'd be more suited to his fight. The Conductor may have an aggressive personality, but he did seem like he genuinely cared for Hat Kid. And him defusing the bomb just makes more sense idk. I did it in my playthrough and it ultimately seemed better. His enraged dialogue just fit the fight more.
The division between the bosses only makes the game better tho. It's just a shame the fights are so similar. Makes sense though.
I suppose you're going to prefer which one you versed on your first playthrough.
Yeah I agree with you.
It feels like The Conductor truly cares and appreciates what hat kid did even with the fact that he can be aggressive and sometimes a jerk to her.
Meanwhile with DJ grooves this boss is much more fit because when you think about it, even tho he was nice the whole time it feels like DJ grooves shows how upset he is due to the amount of times he lost compared to The Conductor even tho he just won and it feels like he takes out all of his anger at once at the first person he can think of.
He is tired from The Conductor's treatment towards him and wants to do anything to win to the point where he is willing to hurt someone who helped him on his way to victory.
So, you like both of them equally?
time for Killing Two Birds deathwish
@@roniguttmann6633 I'm sorry, I just can’t agree with that.
@@mrakimov3458 It's ok, I respect your opinion about it.
Who Wore it Better: Boss Battle Edition
King Dedede v. Scrooge McDuck
okay Scrooge mcduck made me scream-
Krystal Morales-Garcia
HOT??
I was thinking the exact same thing
Lol
I always thought conductor sounded like Scrooge mcduck
It feels like dj grooves was originally going to be the villain no matter what, seeing how all attacks (Exept for the knife) is in his style and level theme. his voices fit more in combat and when the conductor is the villain, dj grooves doesnt have voicelines for saving you.
He does actually have voicelines for saving you. Might be a glitch in the console version
The Conductor doesn’t have voice lines, either.
Sometimes their voicelines for diffusing the bomb aren’t there. It’s a glitch for both of them.
@@smugsdeadchannellol6184 Playing on the PC version, the Conductor definitely has defusing voice lines. To test it the other way around I would need to go all the way through with another save, but I would bet Grooves has lines too. It's probably just a bug.
The saws and the bomb are also Conductor-style attacks
The Conductors fight seems a lot less polished and detailed than Grooves'.
I wonder if originally Grooves was gonna be the villain no matter what and was changed late development.
To me, the conductor fight feels more polished. The set makes more sense, him having a knife, the bomb, and the set of DJ grooves is weird, and has a lot of graphical bugs. During the final phase, the penguins head stick out of the banners, the arrows during the car attack just kind of meld into the moon, it looks less polished. Plus the fight being conductor fits his character way better. He is a petty, cheap peckneck and he would try to reverse time to win ONE trophy that DJ grooves got.
DemonFish although, there are aspects that fit more with DJ Grooves, such as the heart to heart moment, the conductor having the Disco Ball and the Conductor’s hit box Is actually as big as DJ Grooves’
Calem that’s interesting
I love how both bosses have their own set to show there way of making a movie and style of it the conductor has more of a simple design i think it suppose to see that he more old timey for dj grooves is more on the morden side with discord with more colors then the brown in the conductor set i love this fight i think it my favorite so far i havent beat the game but i could tell ill come back for anther run sometime soon
it kinda does tbh? I know they have same move-sets but like I don't see the conductor coming down on a disco ball, a giant sand-bag maybe but not a giant disco ball for sure
*And then they teamed up and obliterated everyone*
Oh well, I ended up fighting DJ. Grooves, which I preferred because the Conductor is my favorite character in the game (alongside the Snatcher) and honestly, I thought they'd put more thought into each fight, like, try to change it up, but I was wrong
Mr. WoopWoop Same here.
snatcher and conductor are the best characters- i see you are a species of culture as well
I got the Conductor, I didn’t mind one bit him trying to kill me. I just thought it was funny that his last words on defeat were “ *PECK NECK* “
But, the conductor seems more psychopathic than grooves, plus he’s so aggressive, especially near grooves, so I can see him trying to murder hat kid
Honestly, I wasn't expecting the fight to be "legit". I thought the whole "Battle of the birds" would actually turn out to be a movie staged by both Dj Grooves and the Conductor. Oh well!
It would've made for a pretty sick movie though.
Grooves and Conductor WORKING TOGETHER?!?! *laughs hard* (Death wish doesn’t count Peck off)
That actually sounds really interesting.
@@royalpain9281 Oi, ya Peckneck! Who you telling to peck off!?
Am I the only who thinks it's better to have DJ Grooves be the boss less for the relevance to the boss fight and more so for the motivation behind their actions? DJ Grooves is driven by the motivation to overtake the guy who was constantly winning over and over and over and over again, but the Conductor is only salty about 1 loss. *One*. I feel like it's less detrimental to their character for both of them if DJ Grooves is the guy who tries to take the Time Piece.
You’re not and never will be the only one that agrees on this golden point.
6:57 When you can't get a time piece
Me aiming for my grade goals
The conductors personality fits the boss fight much better imo
Yes, it feels like they made the The Conductor fight segment first and so it flows more from his personality than DJ Grooves.
Joshua Anderson Actually they Made DJ Grooves Segment first
Lord Mugfish Dj Grooves has more motivation though
I mean if you think about it not really. Seeing as Dj. Grooves was behind the dark voice in the "murder on the owl express" and in one of the trailers Dj. Grooves said he didn't want hat kid to die unless it was by his hands. So if anything Dj. Grooves fits the theme alot better.
The Conductor's whole thing is "Hey he has knives", and there _are_ a lot of knives in the boss fight...
Me:well that is not bad
Then I see the bomb
Me: wow……
Sup Nugget here! *gives you cold nuggets*
Tick-tock tick-tock! You're gonna blow up!
DJ grooves definitely has more of an impact but the conductor being the evil one seems to suit the story more. I just wish I got to choose who turned out to be evil
Technically you do by deciding the winner.
JC Stone I just couldn’t beat the score I had on the conductor levels, even though it wanted DJ to win I couldn’t beat 1200p with his levels cause they were so boring to replay
@@Ninja3050 true his levels were bad
Sooo Oggie Boogie, but with more Boogie and less oggie....and is also a penguin
Splinks Why am I okay with this analogy?
Boogie penguin
Splinks ii
Lol
13:09 DID HE JUST CALL HAT KID 'DARLING'?
ConnorPxlT Productions DJ Grooves. . . Is that you?
DJ Grooves has already killed the Conductor and I can see why
He’s controlling him
ConnorPxlT Productions OH MY JEEZ I DIDN'T NOTICE
the conductor's voice actor might of mis-read one of dj grooves's voice lines and they left it in the game
DJ groves has ruled on him too much
I love how the bomb defuser is just a comedically large pair of scissors
Dlc: why not both
They couldve changed up some attacks just visually between the two fights, for example...
Dj grooves could have a raygun instead of a knife
The conductor could drop a pack of dynamite instead of a disco ball
DJ grooves could use a rocket instead of dynamite in the second phase
Just some examples.
Oh you know what would’ve been better then parade owls for the conductor? If instead you had a trail of crows following you
Heya, I'm writing a wattpad book for A Hat In Time, and was wondering if I could use this to make the battle more interesting in my story :0
If you would rather have me not use this I completely understand, since that's why I wanted to check first, but I would of course give credit ^^
@@critter_core well this is a rather old comment and i stumbled upon it completely by chance but sure go ahead
@@Scrufus cool thanks xD
@@TheFPSKingsGaming yeah, and to follow the Conductor’s appreciation for trains, those can be used instead of the cars.
My favorite voice lines:
*I HATE YOU, DARLINGGGGG!* 6:45
*HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME LASSY* 13:39
*SLICE OF LIGHT* (i dont think i heard it right) 9:01
I love almost all conductor voice lines in this boss
It's 'slice of life'
THIS ONE AIN’T RUBBER
Why do I see you in all most every single hat in time videos
Sparkling Emolga *YOU GOT IT RIGHT*
14:29 PECK NEEEEEEEECK!!
8:55 CHECK THIS OUT!
9:22 this one ain’t rubber!
I think I might like DJ's battle a little more. I did both fights and they're both good. I think it has something to do with the voice lines. I'm not sure how to describe it. I guess it's 'refreshing' to hear DJ scream and threaten the player. Dunno why, I just enjoy his lines more.
DJ Grooves seems to have more "vile" behind his voice lines, especially in the heart-to-heart segment when he says "come and get it."
dj grooves: LADIES AND
...
...
...
...
...
...
GENTLEMAN!!!!!!!
Conductor: ladies and gentleman!
Battle wise, I think Conductor takes the cake. It kinda feels off to have Grooves wielding a knife, and I absolutely LOVE it when Conductor makes a reference to his movie in the “this one ain’t rubber!” line. But as loads of these comments say, it makes more sense for grooves to fight us in the context we’re in. It’s nice seeing his movie star façade disappear, the oldies music with the diner table during the heart-to-heart, the owls and the fact he kind of doesn’t stand a chance to the conductor. I honestly love these two and I wish that a second AHIT would come out so we could see more of them:
Fightin' the Conductor...
WHY I NEVER-
?
13:09 wait... WHAT THE PECK?!?
Ladies and...............
GENTLEMEN!
We gottem
Darling! Come here! I have the defusing device!
What? You WANT to explode? That can't happen!
Why? Because the boss battle needs to be longer!
Also, because the bomb is a nice plot point!
BOSS BATTLE!
DJ Grooves tries to explode you.
pecc necc
DARLING!!!
*C O N T R A C T*
now you watch your mouth
I much prefer the Conductor over Grooves. Glad i ended up fighting Grooves and not the conductor.
Wait, if you prefer the conductor than DJ grooves. Then why did you enjoy Fighting DJ grooves?
@@atlasguytinyproductions55 Because if he likes the Conductor, he doesn't want to harm him. If he doesn't like DJ Grooves then of course he wants to hurt Grooves.
I like the Conductor, but I’m glad I fought him because it was fitting and it was a twist
Conductor was winning but I didn't want to fight him, so I went and got a higher score on Grooves
I prefer the conductor but I think fighting him was better because... Well I dunno.
I read a thing that said it made more sense to fight Conductor/ have him be the one get corrupted by the Time Piece, because he wants the ONE award Grooves won, whereas Grooves has lost like 48 times, he's slightly more justified in his want to go back and win more.
Honestly, I'll always see Dj Grooves being the actual villain of the chapter, seeing the Conductor's fight it just doesn't make any sense tbh.
To me, it’s vise versa.
Actually, that makes sense. He lost to The Conductor a lot of times while The Conductor just lost once to DJ Grooves.
But the attacks are mixed up from these two.
I feel like it gives dj grooves more character. The conductor is selfish and it seems more in line with him. The dj has a better reason AND it would be a cool subversion where you see a darker side of him. Both fights are pretty cool though not gonna lie.
it seems like Grooves is such a charismatic character all throughout and seeing him be the final boss is like catching off guard
with the conductor its more like he's always been really self serving and all that but you never thought it'd come to this
What would happen if the player gets the exact same score total in both The Conductor's and DJ Grooves's stages? Which one do you fight? Does the game decide randomly, or does it result in a tie, possibly with extra dialogue? Can somebody please do this? I'd do it myself, but I'm too lazy (plus my computer lags a lot)!
NinjaPotato Lord never tried it, and now I am going to do it to see if it is possible (probs just defaults to the conductor)
killthekill64 !!! Let me know how it goes
NinjaPotato Lord it turns out it randomizes the winner
killthekill64 !!! Okay. I had a feeling something like that might happen. Thanks!
It randomizes the winner
5:53 its a giant pair of scissors
The manga was better.
xD?
Lokomoqo ?!
Agreed, and the plot is better in the anime
Fight me
lmao
Blue your profile picture is terrifying
We need these two in Hatoful Boyfriend.
I love how this guy beats DJ grooves without taking a hit but fails to pick up the time peice
Would be hilarious if DJ grooves did the *Club Penguin* dance
to be honest, the disco ball part of the fight matches DJ Grooves more.
it compensates for the conductor with the knife and bomb and saws fits him all the more
The Conductor sometimes glitches, making him vanish from the stage, and do it again.
Annoying Bunny I can't beat the level without it happening
Well, I've found a way to make it stop, you just need to put the graphics lower.
You can also just wait, it might fix itself, i mean, it worked for me.
Thanks for you help
Annoying Bunny omg it works and now I'm not getting anymore lag
I like how the Conductor is meant to be the obvious, but enjoyable, antagonist, while DJ Grooves serves as the twist villain you would not expect to turn on you.
I think this fight fits conductor better.
I thought it fit DJ Grooves better, but that's just my opinion. I don't really have much evidence to back it up though lol. Just personal preference.
imo conductor is better because the knife and bomb attacks make sense, DJ Grooves is just like "yeah I stole the bomb"
Soder mhm
Yeah but the music suits the DJ more tho
I think if the boss fights weren’t identical in terms of attacks and instead they had attacks that fit their own characters better or just reskinned attacks it would be better overall.
Wouldn't it make more sense to fight the loser instead of the winner?
_PowerStruck_ they say they cheated and they fight you for knowing
Some_randome_guy oh ok, I just thought fighting the loser made more sense because they would be mad you for having them lose.
@@omgitsthefbi772 Tbh yeah, it would've made more sense, as I detailed in some comments above.
Both of them would've probably seen the latest loss as the end of their career in cinema.
It would, yes.
Nah. I feel like the win makes whichever of the two become over zealous and needy. It gets to their head and makes them want to win more or in conductors case win the one that got away
I revisit this bossfight everytime and always think how the nailed it with a dilemma:
Be good at something, yet be whiny when you're not perfect
Or
Be moderate at something, yet when someone manages to be better than you multiples times, you wish you had everything from them
You're gonna take sides with your favorite but they're both still selfish in the end.
I love the little details in the game
The conductor looks nothing like a bird
*what if he faked his passport? to bird land?*
He kind of looks like a chocobo.
I think he's a owl
Yeah he look like a yellow eyeless dinosoar bird thing.......
Welp good bye logic
And my abillity to spell
Knucks he is a conductor, just that
something I really like is that the conductor just sounds pissed, but grooves sound full on manic
I wonder why at the end of the dj grooves boss fight the owls try to kill you instead of the penguins
Logan the gamer 123 Because those are the same owls from “the big parade” level
Theyre the same owls that DJ hired to play music in the parade.
the parade had owls in it
As many others have told you, the owls are the same owls from the parade level. As for why DJ Grooves even hires the owls in the first place when they usually work for Conductor, I can only assume it’s because the Moon Penguins are terrible at both playing instruments and handling knives.
Grandom Rye oh ya you have a point...but they could’ve replaced the attack with penguins snapping at you
Grooves sounds so broken inside when he talks during his bossfight.
I swear the conductor sounds like the singers of 500 Miles.
@BluTuber2020 Sounds like Flintheart Glomgold to me!
13:09
Conductor: Better hurry up, Darling!
DJ Grooves: *HEY THAT'S MY LINE, DARLING!*
DJ grooves reminds me of King Deedeedee
to me he acts/sounds like MTT from undertale
Boomerang Buddy whoops
I forgot if dedede was from Kirby or something else but if he was from Kirby then, same T.K, same.
How can I help you DJ Grooves?
I need a time piece to clobbah dat dere Conductah!
That's what we do best at MGE!
You better get it back with the money back guarntee!
Boomerang Buddy *Waddle DeeDeeDee*
Everybody gangster till owls start chasing you with knifes
Having the conductor as the evil boss fight makes much more sense to me since he started the train bomb mission where he doesn't even care what would happen to the other owl.
im just gonna say it-
i like this soundtrack more than your contract has expired
*DJ Grooves' theme*
Hell yeah
*DJ Grooves screams: TIME TO BRING OUT THE BIG GUNS!*
Wait why is he screamig Hat Kid is right there
I want Luigis Mansion 3 to have boss battles like a hat in time.
my favorite part is when they start running around the area taunting you
for example: 5:02/12:30
somebody should do a video of just them running around lol
This game taught me that defeated guys will tell you to "have a seat" but actually want to trick you.
Having done both fights, I can say I think that story wise, it fits DJ Grooves way more, especially in the voice line department, the slow deterioration into madness, the whole ‘conductor is a cheater’ part, I know everyone likes conductor more, I do to. But I have to admit- I think grooves just works way better in the narrative
i can't see DJ Grooves as a villain- I just can't.
I thought dj grooves was being a good sport with making the movies and i liked that about him and how he acted when we would do his missions. So naturally i preffered to support him more over the missions, after winning that though i thought we were all buddies and such and then “that” happened ;-;.
Here we...
*_GO!_*
Ladies and...
*_GENTLEMEN!_*
I was so sad when I had to fight dj grooves. He was one of my favourite characters in the game
You feel very betrayed fighting him after he was so kind and generous and brought you to stardom. It’s why I like fighting the conductor more.
DJ Grooves’ Defeat Sound: I HATE YOU, DAAARLING!
The Conductor’s Defeat Sound: PECK NECKKKKK!
What the peck, you like hat Kid at the last act guys..
I love that when your fighting the conducter at one moment hes on the discoball and he says "HERE WE uhhh GOOO!" 'Cause the discoball took a while to fall
100% a hat in time comments
0% the battle bricks comments
i like how when fighting the conductor, he has a more jazzy version of the tune just like how his movies are more western and old fashion like, while DJ Grooves has a more rock and newer era feel just like how his movies have a more newer era feel and also how his movies resembles something more like internet posts and videos.
At first I wanted to battle the conductor but I ended up with *GrOoVeS*
So I fought him and when I found out the conductor had to save you from the bomb
I loved it
4:17 Here We Go Guys
FOR REAL I THINK DJ GROVES CONTROLED HIM CUZ HE SAID DARLING 13:09 [ GROVESANAMI CON FRIMED
It's a kind of um, "joke"
We could make it a meme if we wanted to
Wow, I didn't even know you can fight the conductor, I must say though, the combat style is much more fitting with DJ Grooves, the use of disco balls, photos, the phrase "lady's and gentlemen" and the parade all seem like things the conductor wouldn't do. The only thing I feel fits the conductor better is the use of a large knife, and when DJ Groves does it it feels more like a hidden psychopathic side rather than unfitting. and on top of that DJ Groves has no voice line in the conductors fight? that's a bit odd. It's clear that they made the fight with the idea that DJ Groves would be the boss and than replaced him with the conductor later. I feel like in this way id almost prefer it to be impossible to fight the conductor, BUT I would have loved to see it be possible but give the conductor his own set of attacks that better fight his style, make it the same length and roughly the same difficulty, but fitting the conductor instead. I do like the middle bit in a way, it makes the conductor look like a complete jerk and DJ Groves has a much larger motive to be trying to kill you than the conductor.
Actually he does have voice acting in conductor's fight. Must be some kind of bug.
What about the bomb and saws?
6:12 YEET, HUA!!
ok one thing i don’t understand is when DJ Grooves is like “oh the conductor cheated so i don’t win”
but how do you cheat in making a movie?
Just look at the conductor at 8:57 just watch what happens to him
I know I literally just fought it, but The Conductor is straight up my favorite boss fight in video game history. And I say that despite thinking this game is only pretty good so far.
I like how in the middle of the conductor fight, some of the disco balls blew up in mid-air 😂
PECK
NECK
*conductor laughing in the distance*
NECK
Pecc
PECK!!!!!!
“Better hurry up darlin!”
You’d think that’s said by Dj grooves
dj grooves: **literly tries to kill hat kid**
also dj grooves:cAn i hAvE a tImE pIcE dArLiNg
Nobody:
*DJ grooves:*
**WATS DiSs!?**
The first two times I tried the conductor fight he went back, the camera tilted down and nothing happend
Comductor:"Says darling"
DJ Grooves:Your free trial of living has ended