At 0:33, I say, "It records in H.264 resolution." H.264 is an encoding and does not imply any particular resolution. I intended to say, "H.264 encoding, higher resolution," but while I was sputtering off the list of new features, I dropped those words. Hopefully no confusion will result from this mistake.
It's not that fatshark goggles are overpriced. It's that ALL googles are overpriced. There's no reasons why a pair of small low res displays in a cheap plastic shell should cost the same as a PS4 pro, Mid spec'd laptop, 50" 4K TV, etc... Even the most high end Fatshark goggles should cost more like $199. I'm sure they would still make a healthy profit of what probably costs $20 to manufacture in China.
@Recreational Plutonium Yeah you're right. I realized after I posted this that there's a lot more to it. After I watched the interview with the guys at Orqa really.
You see. You obviously know nothing about marketing and economy. Have you ever heard term "market demand"or "target group"? Don't compare two totally different products from two extremely different markets. I assure you that when nearly 100% of population in the first world will own an FPV googles (vide your comparison to TVs) those things will cost 5 times less. Not to mention evolution of the product itself. Naturally this will never happen so don't count on price drops of FPV equipment anytime soon.
Josh, not nitpicking here, but was wondering if your FPV camera setting were stick of if you changed them. If they're stock, then this doesn't apply as much, but if not then the fact that the image isn't as clear may be due to you tuning them to an LCD screen (like that in Fatahark and Aomway, etc) and not for the LCoS in the Eachines. Even if your setting are stick, Foxeer/Runcam probably set them up for LCD as well, so changing settings a little on the camera may fix the picture quality issue. Also, why couldn't you use a LaForge module? Everyone keep saying that, but aren't both modules removable? If so, just take both out, run the cable outside, and you're good to go. I don't see why that couldn't be done, but maybe I'm missing something (as I don't own either a LaForge or the EV200Ds) Other than that, like always, I love your review Josh and can't wait to see the range testing! P.S. showing screen quality on camera is just overall a bad idea. Refresh rates of the screen and the FPS of the camera tend to portray the picture quite poorly.
LaForge would fit into the goggle but you couldn't use quadversity. That's what I meant. Image being tuned for LOCS? That's not what I mean when criticizing the image quality. I mean the fact that the screens are not well matched to the optics so it's difficult to see the entire screen in both eyes at the same time.
Ok but it definitely sounded that the picture was also a problem in quality especially compared to the VGA of the attitude. You definitely have to tune the stock settings in the goggles themself and the camera as well. I wonder what the max picture quality would be that you get when this is done. Like brightness colors and so on.
During the battery talk you made it sound like Eachine is copying the USB charging from FatShark. I believe it’s actually the other way around. The first battery I am aware of that did had that feature was the battery that came with the Eachine EV100 goggles. It was smaller but I still use that battery with a lot of my goggles.
USB charging a battery, is that unique to a manufacturer. It would be nice if the battery had a proper balance lead so you could charge it faster. USB charging can take more time depending on charger rating i.e. charging at less then 1c
They need to open source firmware and have it upgradable via usb or sd so ppl can get running all modules for future lol like dual rapid fire. also usb data access to the sd card via usb. i say eachine did good if the production comes out good i think it will get alot of ppl in the hobby. with a good sales the ev300 can be even better
Did they ever change anything? The 59mm ipd of Fatsharks and others is a little too wide for me. The 3mm extra adjustment will mean no straining to focus my eyes on the screens.
Thank you. I just want to recognize that, while viewing the EV100 goggles, you gave several recommendations to Eacine for improvements to upgrade their goggles, and it seems they listened.👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👌
I find your reviews are both comprehensive and honest. Great work. Hopefully the 200D's optics can be made better prior to full release. The rest of the package looks good.
As someone considering a purchase these days I really appreciate an unbiased opinion on this. Having recently seen you do a really indepth and useful interview with fatsharks lead guy I was apprehensive about this video being impartial, but I think this is exactly what the consumer needs and expects, impartial assessment comparing like-for-like. If the new guys don't measure up, then fine, at least we know we're safe with our fat shark purchases, but it is to the net gain of FPV as a whole that products be assessed against their peers price-wise. After all, clearly we could all buy better with unlimited purse strings, but as someone balancing a budget like the rest of us, this kind of assessment is crucial. On the whole, not sure, but I am really grateful that this kind of in depth investigation is out there. Thankyou Josh
Ya know, some of us wouldn't complain about used equipment as giveaways, lol. Too many goggles? Give them out to new guys like me! I'll cover the shipping!
Hell with shipping Id pay half price, use it to the max, my aomways keep dropping out and black, rescan and get it back, idk frustrating, burnt ribbon fixed new rxs. now this no one knows.
When they fix these smaller problems, they are totaly better than fatshark, also i like that eachine always thinks about what they doing.that cover and dual-diversity sounds great. Nice pre-review JB👍
Definitely, DEFINITELY, Kabab's EV200D was defective. It's the only explanation I can think off, because it's the third good review I see. Great job, JB! I just received my EV800D and already want those. 😐
Kabab posted a followup on insta. The blurring was a result of a dying 3rd party receiver that he was using, which did eventually die. As to what killed his receiver, that's yet to be disclosed.
Joshua Bardwell... don't stress the naysayers! I really appreciate that you aren't afraid to call it as you see it. And also understand that this is your livelihood so sometimes you got to put the reviews out there! Keep doing what you're doing!
I heard the production version of these are better thanks to your and others review, highly considering getting these now as an upgrade to my ev100’s thanks for your hard work and honest opinions
So when it comes to the antennas do you want 2 LHPC on one side and 2 RHCP on the other or all 4 the same? Also are those antennas the best ones for them or is there better ones? Thank you in advance.
yeah i'm looking to get some goggles for my 1st drone experience. but not wanting to spend $400-500 on them, and i don't want box goggles. which is what brought me to this video. watched your's and a few others, review on the ev100. i'm still in debate with the ev100 for my 1st goggles. price is a big part for my first fpv drone set up. i don't want to spend too much at first. but i also want something that isn't bound to one kit like the tinyhawk kit. seems, i need to spend about $1000 minimum just to even get started with anything decent. and at that point, i might as well just get the DJI FPV drone kit for $1300.
A few things it's not like fatshark came with the USB on the batteries. It was Eachine with the ev100 so you have to say like the ev100. Your impression of the screen comes fork the different screen technology you are used to LCDs and this is a lcos. The resulttion is way better than the attitude. So for sure picture is sharper on it. Both have plastic optics. They polarized the optics as well to get off the problems that the fx7 v1 had. That might be why you see more fingerprints but I mean normally you don't touch the screen as it will have fingerprints. Looking forward to your review of your modules. Please also check using two LaForge modules or two true d or so instead of the stock modules from what I know they are the only ones that sync up to be used with quadversity. A recommendation to Eachine from you would be to make an option that ships with the Eachine pro 58 modules. As with Achilles these would be a killer and probably better than the stock ones. Can you check how much you can see of the screen with the faceplate off. Eachine said they are making different faceplates with bigger cutouts to view the full screen better for the production model. How do you like the fov? Nice review keep it up. Compare the reception of the modules to the Eachine pro 58 modules with Achilles please. Not worth it to compare a module that's 90 bucks or more. Thanks a lot
Great video, thanks. So what goggle do you recommend as the “goto” goggle to use? And, what receiver to use with them? I keep hearing about the Spektrum 2520 at $449 as the best, but that because of the high price maybe there are better options? I just want to know what looks and works the best...period. Thanks.
Interesting fpv googles and i wonder how good multi diversity for the range and stability of fpv signal reception. I will be waiting for your review about it Josh. As beginner in this hobby i still learn to fly with micro quad/tinywhoop to improve my flying skills. Concerning fpv goggles ... i think ridiculous if it more expensive than my micro quad/tinywhoop so i decide to use Eachine EV800D googles and i'm happy with it. I will consider to get another (better) fpv googles when my quad more expensive than it :)
I purchased these and believe I've figured out the blur problem (for me at least). It's all about face geometry and your eyes. These googles did not live up to my expectations at all... I get intense blurring at the top of the screen- sometimes to the point where the channel information is completely doubled/unreadable. I also cannot see the battery indicator with one eye, so it appears as if the IPD adjustment is off, even though it's the 'best' I can get it... The only way to make it clear, is to adjust them to the point where I cannot see the bottom of the screen, and the straps will not hold them in at any angle where all of the screens are visible, and clear. The optic windows are TOO SMALL for my eyes. I suppose I have a fairly large face, or more deeply inset eyes than most. If I push the goggles insanely close to my face with no pad installed, they *almost* work. In case anyone's wondering, I also have an oculus rift, so I'm somewhat familiar with IPD adjustment, and having screens close to my face and getting them adjusted properly for *maximum* clarity. I realize they're not going to be 'perfect' or 'crystal clear', but these goggles are so bad for me, my eyes can't even focus on my OSD and there is no sweet spot. I even tried the -2 diopters as had been suggested on a forum, but these cause my vision to constantly refocus, as I don't require glasses. There went another 20 bucks down the drain... IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUY THESE, TRY TO TEST THEM OUT FIRST... I know how insanely hard that can be, but after dropping about 300 dollars on them, that is the best recommendation I can make. I'm currently working with banggood for a refund... I'll do my best to update this when I receive word back (If I haven't updated this by mid-october 2019, hit reply so I get a notification and I'll do my best to update the situation). Even though I'm coming from E-Max's (horrifyingly terrible) TinyHawk RTF goggles- I just cannot accept paying as much as I did for these with these design flaws inherent for my facial geometry.
will each bay have enough power? will the diversity between 2 modules be compatible? 1 mod w/ patches 1 mod with omni.. would that be good or what would rapidshare recommend?
Yesterday afternoon and after a year, I went out to pilot the GX210 5 inches, and with EV200D glasses. I only have in the glasses a receiver installed with 2 antennas, a pagoda and a patch. In one of the passes, I carried the drone behind me and about 50 meters away, I lost the signal and went to the ground. Soft, low-lying soil. There was no damage. Would it be better to connect the other receiver and place more antennas ?? Regards
Speak teacher! I bought it through your link. A question. It came with a 2s battery, but on the box it says it operates with a battery up to 3s, but the manual says nothing. Do you know if he really works with 3s? Hug and thanks
Hello, Joshua I myself from Kazakhstan and a little poorly understand in English and looked at your video a little bit about these new ev200 glasses, I have long wanted to buy glasses for fpv, and I think what to take? Tell your opinion what to choose from these two is ev200 or the sky zone v 2? Thanks in advance.
JB, what antenna is better? TrueRC 5.8GHz X²-AIR, 5.8GHz SpiroNET Mini Patch or TrueRC 5.8GHz X-AIR... i may wanna do some long range in the future, but I manly fly in place that the signal has to go trough trees...
TrueRC X2-Air has the highest gain of those. For long range you want a high gain and narrower beamwidth. But don't fly out of the beam or you'll failsafe!
I purchased the eachine ev200d with modules for $280 new. Love them. Not perfect but super value especially for a noob flyer. Thanks for the review was very helpful in my decision making. 👍💖🤓
so i guess the cut off screen wasn't fixed after all? is that an optics problem or software problem? if it's optics i'd buy them and have a go at fixing them myself , but if it's software i'd not buy them
When reviewing the RF section of the goggles, can you please let us know about the quad diversity of 200D? My understanding is that these goggles can work with two Eachine diversity receivers (quad diversity). Now, if the original Eachine receivers as not present (which is set A), can we install two diversity receivers or only one? Moreover, if I'd buy a set B, can I remove one of the Eachine receivers and replace with a True D for instance? Would this still be a quad diversity? Appreciate your work and dedication, thank you for the review. !!!
I am just to order my first set of goggles and I am between the EV200 and the Aomway Commander V1. Price is nearly the same. Which one is better? Or is there another, better choice in the same price range?
Commander V1 is, in my opinion, the safest choice. Eachine EV200D will give larger image and more features, but to me the build quality on the Commander feels slightly better. And the Commander V1 is time tested now.
Hey guys I just recieved the ev200 and my DVR is running in black and white more in googles only, it records in color but playback is black and white, is that normal?
hi Joshua, I could not find an answer for my question in this video so I try it this way. I got the goggles with 2x diversity receivers (4antennnas). Is it safe to have 2 antennas attached 1 on each receiver and power on the goggles? and what If I only have 1 antenna at the moment? there is no (quick) answer for this goggle and have not turned it on since I got them. Can you give us detailed information on how to and how not to connect the antenna's (configuration) thanks!
Is the view you showed of HD2 what you actually see in the goggles ? Because I see absolutely no blurry edges. That's what drives me towards Commander v2 instead of a pair of used HD2 (or T2) as I think I will love high FOV coming from box style for a year and a half now and I unfortunately can't try any goggles in my region and don't want to go wrong... By the way you you rather recommend the HD3 core or the T2 (if they are very similar to the HD2) as they are the same price ? Thank you :)
By perfectly positionned you mean in distance from the lenses, not in the right-left direction ? That's a matter of foam thickness then ? If it is always possible to get a perfectly clear image with the HD2 by doing some tweaks you would have solved dozens of hours of fear of buying a pair of goggles that would be blurry.
Hi Josh, probbably got this commented: your prescription glasses reflections are a bit distracting. maybe use softboxes? dont know - just feedback. Now I keep watching a very old goggles review :)
Can somebody explain to me how to record with DVR? Its not working for me. I put the microSD card in the googles, power them on, then press around 10 sec to get into the REC Menu and then i press DVR button for 1 second and after my flight i also press the DVR button to stop the recording. But then there is no recording showing when i want to watch it on the googles. Even on my pc it says the microSD card is empty? Any tips or did I do something wrong?
I am currently using the Skyzone 02S V+ goggles and I have some quad mounting their scam302 3D camera and STX202 stereo VTX. Is it possible to set the receivers to get the 3D effect as with the Skyzone goggles? (one freq for the Left display and another freq for the Right one)?
Hi Joshua, I'm trying to use my ev200d with my simulator, i turn on goggles, had setup my pc with 1280x720 res then press mode button for hdmi 2d and then conect, but jeez nothing happen ... any hint?
the resize issue is addressed by turning the quad/camera on before the goggles so it can adjust properly. i've occasionally seen this on my dom v3's (true-D) and I know I've seen it on the eachine dvr module too (at least the black plug n play one). I suspect with the doms its really because on some quads I might have pal or ntsc selected and others auto (depending on camera and my laziness).
Dear Joshua, please throw a run cam sparrow and a basic vtx together on a board or something so you can properly review 16:9 goggles without (only) complaining about how bad they look with 4:3 cameras. Sure, many people run 4:3 cameras. But I don't! :D. I use the sparrow, and the runcam split with my skyzone goggles. All 16:9. I love the view! Anyway. Thanks for another great video. Keep up the good work!
The things that are wrong with them have nothing to do with whether the camera is 16:9 or 4:3. I can view the 4:3 image stretched to 16:9 and see the same thing as I would see if I were looking at a 16:9 camera. I can tell what is the effect of the stretched image and what is an innate characteristic of the goggle.
Joshua Bardwell I suppose I'm willing to take your word for it. I brought it up because in my experience, my native 16:9 goggles (skyzone v+) work perfectly with my native 16:9 cameras, but might be a little off when I watch a feed from a 4:3 camera... So when I watch your video commentary about various goggles I find myself wishing you would connect them to one of the cameras I use. If I've read you right, you prefer the 4:3. Honestly, I MIGHT have preferred that aspect ratio, but I got my skyzone's on sale, so I'm committed :) -you know, maybe that could be a subject for a future video? "Best 16:9 cameras and goggles" -what do you think?
Joshua Bardwell Thank you. It would be great if they can solve it with a firmware upgrade. Sad oversight on their part. Cheers to quad diversity though. I can finally cover 270 degrees in my backyard. Thanks for all the time you put into these videos.
I got these goggles and have the exact same problem. I cannot see the full screen and it’s frustrating! I’m really thinking of changing to something else but not sure what else, I’m going to have to pay a bit more
It was much closer than I expected. I've order the fatshark hdo, and the ev200d. I do like larger fov, but I'll know when they get here. One of them will grow on me hopefully.
Great video. I hope they address some of the issues you captured. On a side note...I recently picked up HD3s (upgraded from DomV3s) and mine aren't nearly as sharp at the corners as yours. I figured it's my vision..I play with the IPD to center the sweet spot but I certainly can't get it sharp to the edges. Could they befective?
you just saved me $300. THANK YOU! I need the image quality, coming from Headplay HD box goggles. My problem is my IPD is 57mm, which is too narrow for Fat Sharks, so I was exited about the 56+mm range of the EV200D. The Headplay's are wonderful image, but really suck to travel with. Any recommendations for my narrow IPD issue?
One question. I'm not an FPV Racer but would like the experience of FPV in a more cinematic role. I have a Mavic Pro which I would like to set up with FPV goggles for vacation videos. I'm so confused about the transmitters, and or modules and antennaes that I don't know if I even want the goggles. From the videos I've watched all I see is pixelated images and broken video that I wonder if it's worth all the hassel especially if I want undistorted images. Is there a pair of goggles that will not have signal loss and can I fly out to a distance of a mile with the goggles without losing my drone.
The Mavic cannot transmit to analog FPV style goggles. You would need the Goggles RE from DJI. If you seriously want a set, I actually have one that I'm thinking about selling. Email me joshuabardwell@gmail.com if you're interested.
HI, do not know if you can help? but took a working rapidfire module from my dominator v3 and fitted it in the ev200d and all i get is a snow rolling faint image of the rapid fire osd, tried a pro58 module and that works with the ev200d, any information to rectify this would be appreciated.
RapidFire is not guaranteed to work with EV200D. They may not be compatible because of the EV200D quadversity feature. Did you have two modules int he EV200 or one? Try the RapidFire all by itself.
I could not use Next Wave Fat Shark 1.3Ghz module right? I was going to use these goggles but I dont know what to do about a 1.3Ghz receiver thats not big and can work with the goggles because I could not find one that did. Any suggestions???????
I'd be curious to see these compared to the Skyzone Sky02 (borrow Drews maybe). I have been fine with mine but newer goggles that have come out do have some tempting features and make me curious if a upgrade would be worth it.
Curious to see range test, looking into a lot of options for my first set of goggles. These look like they should be good, but others i'm deciding between are Aomway commander v1, Skyzone sky02, and FS Dom. V2 or 3. Budget is tight so watching all i can on these. Good job Josh
Joshua, the zoom happens also on eachine DVR alone...its a bug...you have to power on quad first so the signal is available and goggles can adjust....works on my DVR...may help here also
One person that these are for are a person with whom's IPD is too narrow for any fatsharks. I have that problem. I have tried fatsharks and I couldn't get them narrow enough so that I could see both screens. My EV100's IPD fits me perfectly so I am hoping these EV200's will be an upgrade for me.
i am ok with everything but i miss some kind of led indicator of the multiversity...at least i want to see the modules switching. call me crazy, but without indicator you just have to be a believer
Loving my EV200D's, just flying my Whoops around the house where my other goggles would break up and lose a bit of video, these stay clear the whole time
Unfortunately the table of contents in the video description doesn't have clickable time stamps for mobile users. Seems like the only way to make it active for mobile is to paste it in a comment and put a pin in it.
Great review mate, bit perplexed over the long wait for them to be publicly available. Ended up buying HD3 new from HobbyKing for $550AUD, because I couldn't wait for these. Then saw a goggles drone package second hand on Facebook marketplace, with the rare HD2 as the goggles. I negotiated seller into selling me the goggles only, for $350AUD. This was before the TerminatorsHD2 release. Still very happy to have a daily HD2, and use HD3 on the weekends. I don't race, just fly for pleasure. Did look at HDO, but couldn't justify the price. As I have 2x sets for almost the same price as HDO. Also a firm believer of having a spare of everything.haha Great to see that EV200D are out, well almost. Will look forward to your range testing video. Paul
how do we know if they have fixed the issues !!? ... if i order i want to know googles will work. QC at client is a no go for me. would like to see some rf testting where you put the RX to the edge (previous ev100 had an issue when going behind a bush .. where image would freeze white and not switch back unless u change channel -crashed a few times while testing) of signal DSP issue!! thanks.
Hi Joshua I like your vid's 😎. My question for you is this. I have the ev200d for 1 year now but have not used it more than 30 times. The battery that came with it did not last for 3 flights in total, so defective. Meanwhile I used the micro USB plug. But now it doesn't work anymore I get a black screen. I tried it with a power supply DC plug and still nothing. I noticed that the diversity modules has not lights when I plug the battery or DC power supply. Any idea what it could be. Because banggood isn't any helpful at all. Customer service is useless and does not comply in any way. Any advice from you.
I'm sorry man but it just sounds like it's broken and should be discarded. If you have a lot of ingenuity, maybe you can figure out how to fix it. I certainly can't tell you how to fix it over the Internet though :-(
At 0:33, I say, "It records in H.264 resolution." H.264 is an encoding and does not imply any particular resolution. I intended to say, "H.264 encoding, higher resolution," but while I was sputtering off the list of new features, I dropped those words. Hopefully no confusion will result from this mistake.
It's not that fatshark goggles are overpriced. It's that ALL googles are overpriced.
There's no reasons why a pair of small low res displays in a cheap plastic shell should cost the same as a PS4 pro, Mid spec'd laptop, 50" 4K TV, etc...
Even the most high end Fatshark goggles should cost more like $199. I'm sure they would still make a healthy profit of what probably costs $20 to manufacture in China.
@Recreational Plutonium Yeah you're right. I realized after I posted this that there's a lot more to it. After I watched the interview with the guys at Orqa really.
Niche market globally isn't niche market anymore. @Recreational Plutonium
True. Unfortunately new coming hobby grade "drone" regulations are against market growth..@Recreational Plutonium
True... and you can also change this annually but a tv every 10 years!!
You see. You obviously know nothing about marketing and economy. Have you ever heard term "market demand"or "target group"? Don't compare two totally different products from two extremely different markets. I assure you that when nearly 100% of population in the first world will own an FPV googles (vide your comparison to TVs) those things will cost 5 times less. Not to mention evolution of the product itself. Naturally this will never happen so don't count on price drops of FPV equipment anytime soon.
Thanks for the good review. Can you also use a 16:9 camera in your next vid? im interested how it looks compared to the 4:3 streched to16:9
In your video you mention that the screens are not fully visible, did they fixed this for the release?
I love this video so much because of how happy he sounds in the beggining!
Josh, not nitpicking here, but was wondering if your FPV camera setting were stick of if you changed them. If they're stock, then this doesn't apply as much, but if not then the fact that the image isn't as clear may be due to you tuning them to an LCD screen (like that in Fatahark and Aomway, etc) and not for the LCoS in the Eachines. Even if your setting are stick, Foxeer/Runcam probably set them up for LCD as well, so changing settings a little on the camera may fix the picture quality issue.
Also, why couldn't you use a LaForge module? Everyone keep saying that, but aren't both modules removable? If so, just take both out, run the cable outside, and you're good to go. I don't see why that couldn't be done, but maybe I'm missing something (as I don't own either a LaForge or the EV200Ds)
Other than that, like always, I love your review Josh and can't wait to see the range testing!
P.S. showing screen quality on camera is just overall a bad idea. Refresh rates of the screen and the FPS of the camera tend to portray the picture quite poorly.
LaForge would fit into the goggle but you couldn't use quadversity. That's what I meant.
Image being tuned for LOCS? That's not what I mean when criticizing the image quality. I mean the fact that the screens are not well matched to the optics so it's difficult to see the entire screen in both eyes at the same time.
Ok but it definitely sounded that the picture was also a problem in quality especially compared to the VGA of the attitude. You definitely have to tune the stock settings in the goggles themself and the camera as well. I wonder what the max picture quality would be that you get when this is done. Like brightness colors and so on.
Can we use 2.4GHz or 5.8GHz receivers?
In theory a 2.4 ghz fat Shark module would work.
During the battery talk you made it sound like Eachine is copying the USB charging from FatShark. I believe it’s actually the other way around. The first battery I am aware of that did had that feature was the battery that came with the Eachine EV100 goggles. It was smaller but I still use that battery with a lot of my goggles.
DroneRacer101 lol exactly what I am saying as well you are completely right. Let's see if he points that out in the next video to the ev200d
Yes my old vr007 battery has USB charging
USB charging a battery, is that unique to a manufacturer. It would be nice if the battery had a proper balance lead so you could charge it faster. USB charging can take more time depending on charger rating i.e. charging at less then 1c
But you can plug in a big power bank while flying and put in your pockets you get dozens of hours of flying time
You are correct sir. I have 2 from way back in the day (you know like a year ago in electronics terms).
They need to open source firmware and have it upgradable via usb or sd so ppl can get running all modules for future lol like dual rapid fire. also usb data access to the sd card via usb. i say eachine did good if the production comes out good i think it will get alot of ppl in the hobby. with a good sales the ev300 can be even better
Did they ever change anything? The 59mm ipd of Fatsharks and others is a little too wide for me. The 3mm extra adjustment will mean no straining to focus my eyes on the screens.
Needs more antennas.
It needs 10
not 10, it needs 16
Does anybody know if the cutoff points on the screen are fixed now?
Thank you. I just want to recognize that, while viewing the EV100 goggles, you gave several recommendations to Eacine for improvements to upgrade their goggles, and it seems they listened.👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👌
I find your reviews are both comprehensive and honest. Great work.
Hopefully the 200D's optics can be made better prior to full release. The rest of the package looks good.
As someone considering a purchase these days I really appreciate an unbiased opinion on this. Having recently seen you do a really indepth and useful interview with fatsharks lead guy I was apprehensive about this video being impartial, but I think this is exactly what the consumer needs and expects, impartial assessment comparing like-for-like. If the new guys don't measure up, then fine, at least we know we're safe with our fat shark purchases, but it is to the net gain of FPV as a whole that products be assessed against their peers price-wise. After all, clearly we could all buy better with unlimited purse strings, but as someone balancing a budget like the rest of us, this kind of assessment is crucial.
On the whole, not sure, but I am really grateful that this kind of in depth investigation is out there.
Thankyou Josh
Great review Josh! Hope Eachine listens to you and the other reviewers.
Ya know, some of us wouldn't complain about used equipment as giveaways, lol.
Too many goggles? Give them out to new guys like me! I'll cover the shipping!
Hell with shipping Id pay half price, use it to the max, my aomways keep dropping out and black, rescan and get it back, idk frustrating, burnt ribbon fixed new rxs. now this no one knows.
Gotta pay for that palatial estate and $30k car.
When they fix these smaller problems, they are totaly better than fatshark, also i like that eachine always thinks about what they doing.that cover and dual-diversity sounds great. Nice pre-review JB👍
Definitely, DEFINITELY, Kabab's EV200D was defective. It's the only explanation I can think off, because it's the third good review I see.
Great job, JB! I just received my EV800D and already want those. 😐
MC's Creations he is the only one who is true!
Joe Gonzales Oh, come on, man...
Kabap took both of his EV200 vids offline afaik. - And he didn't make a review he only made a preview/first look.
ZeroFPV I saved copies of them before they went offline.
Kabab posted a followup on insta. The blurring was a result of a dying 3rd party receiver that he was using, which did eventually die. As to what killed his receiver, that's yet to be disclosed.
Even if they aren’t perfect...you have to admit that’s a really hard kick to the throne!!!
Makes other companies realize what is possible!!
Hello Joshua, have you checked the EV100 too? Which antennas are strongest for the goggles in range and quality?
I like very much how you organized the video by a table of contents. Awesome video!
Joshua Bardwell... don't stress the naysayers! I really appreciate that you aren't afraid to call it as you see it. And also understand that this is your livelihood so sometimes you got to put the reviews out there! Keep doing what you're doing!
I heard the production version of these are better thanks to your and others review, highly considering getting these now as an upgrade to my ev100’s thanks for your hard work and honest opinions
So when it comes to the antennas do you want 2 LHPC on one side and 2 RHCP on the other or all 4 the same? Also are those antennas the best ones for them or is there better ones? Thank you in advance.
yeah i'm looking to get some goggles for my 1st drone experience. but not wanting to spend $400-500 on them, and i don't want box goggles. which is what brought me to this video. watched your's and a few others, review on the ev100. i'm still in debate with the ev100 for my 1st goggles. price is a big part for my first fpv drone set up. i don't want to spend too much at first. but i also want something that isn't bound to one kit like the tinyhawk kit. seems, i need to spend about $1000 minimum just to even get started with anything decent. and at that point, i might as well just get the DJI FPV drone kit for $1300.
A few things it's not like fatshark came with the USB on the batteries. It was Eachine with the ev100 so you have to say like the ev100. Your impression of the screen comes fork the different screen technology you are used to LCDs and this is a lcos. The resulttion is way better than the attitude. So for sure picture is sharper on it. Both have plastic optics. They polarized the optics as well to get off the problems that the fx7 v1 had. That might be why you see more fingerprints but I mean normally you don't touch the screen as it will have fingerprints. Looking forward to your review of your modules. Please also check using two LaForge modules or two true d or so instead of the stock modules from what I know they are the only ones that sync up to be used with quadversity. A recommendation to Eachine from you would be to make an option that ships with the Eachine pro 58 modules. As with Achilles these would be a killer and probably better than the stock ones. Can you check how much you can see of the screen with the faceplate off. Eachine said they are making different faceplates with bigger cutouts to view the full screen better for the production model. How do you like the fov? Nice review keep it up. Compare the reception of the modules to the Eachine pro 58 modules with Achilles please. Not worth it to compare a module that's 90 bucks or more. Thanks a lot
You almost had me at HDMI, but lost to an “almost” at 16:18. 😐 Thanks for the review, you’ve saved me a lot of money over the years 🤓
Great video, thanks. So what goggle do you recommend as the “goto” goggle to use? And, what receiver to use with them? I keep hearing about the Spektrum 2520 at $449 as the best, but that because of the high price maybe there are better options? I just want to know what looks and works the best...period. Thanks.
Interesting fpv googles and i wonder how good multi diversity for the range and stability of fpv signal reception.
I will be waiting for your review about it Josh.
As beginner in this hobby i still learn to fly with micro quad/tinywhoop to improve my flying skills.
Concerning fpv goggles ... i think ridiculous if it more expensive than my micro quad/tinywhoop so i decide to use Eachine EV800D googles and i'm happy with it.
I will consider to get another (better) fpv googles when my quad more expensive than it :)
Great review. With all the goggles you have Joshua, which is currently your overall go to goggle now?
I purchased these and believe I've figured out the blur problem (for me at least). It's all about face geometry and your eyes. These googles did not live up to my expectations at all...
I get intense blurring at the top of the screen- sometimes to the point where the channel information is completely doubled/unreadable. I also cannot see the battery indicator with one eye, so it appears as if the IPD adjustment is off, even though it's the 'best' I can get it... The only way to make it clear, is to adjust them to the point where I cannot see the bottom of the screen, and the straps will not hold them in at any angle where all of the screens are visible, and clear. The optic windows are TOO SMALL for my eyes. I suppose I have a fairly large face, or more deeply inset eyes than most. If I push the goggles insanely close to my face with no pad installed, they *almost* work.
In case anyone's wondering, I also have an oculus rift, so I'm somewhat familiar with IPD adjustment, and having screens close to my face and getting them adjusted properly for *maximum* clarity. I realize they're not going to be 'perfect' or 'crystal clear', but these goggles are so bad for me, my eyes can't even focus on my OSD and there is no sweet spot. I even tried the -2 diopters as had been suggested on a forum, but these cause my vision to constantly refocus, as I don't require glasses. There went another 20 bucks down the drain...
IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUY THESE, TRY TO TEST THEM OUT FIRST... I know how insanely hard that can be, but after dropping about 300 dollars on them, that is the best recommendation I can make.
I'm currently working with banggood for a refund... I'll do my best to update this when I receive word back (If I haven't updated this by mid-october 2019, hit reply so I get a notification and I'll do my best to update the situation). Even though I'm coming from E-Max's (horrifyingly terrible) TinyHawk RTF goggles- I just cannot accept paying as much as I did for these with these design flaws inherent for my facial geometry.
will each bay have enough power? will the diversity between 2 modules be compatible? 1 mod w/ patches 1 mod with omni.. would that be good or what would rapidshare recommend?
Yesterday afternoon and after a year, I went out to pilot the GX210 5 inches, and with EV200D glasses. I only have in the glasses a receiver installed with 2 antennas, a pagoda and a patch. In one of the passes, I carried the drone behind me and about 50 meters away, I lost the signal and went to the ground. Soft, low-lying soil. There was no damage.
Would it be better to connect the other receiver and place more antennas ??
Regards
Speak teacher! I bought it through your link. A question. It came with a 2s battery, but on the box it says it operates with a battery up to 3s, but the manual says nothing. Do you know if he really works with 3s? Hug and thanks
Hello, Joshua I myself from Kazakhstan and a little poorly understand in English and looked at your video a little bit about these new ev200 glasses, I have long wanted to buy glasses for fpv, and I think what to take? Tell your opinion what to choose from these two is ev200 or the sky zone v 2? Thanks in advance.
SkyZone V2 is a better goggle but a smaller screen. I would take Skyzone myself.
Great video I have been looking at these and if the range testing works out they will be my new goggles. Can't wait great stuff
JB, what antenna is better? TrueRC 5.8GHz X²-AIR, 5.8GHz SpiroNET Mini Patch or TrueRC 5.8GHz X-AIR... i may wanna do some long range in the future, but I manly fly in place that the signal has to go trough trees...
TrueRC X2-Air has the highest gain of those. For long range you want a high gain and narrower beamwidth. But don't fly out of the beam or you'll failsafe!
@@JoshuaBardwell ok, thanks.
I purchased the eachine ev200d with modules for $280 new. Love them. Not perfect but super value especially for a noob flyer. Thanks for the review was very helpful in my decision making. 👍💖🤓
Do you get better reception with all 4 truerc antennas or the 3 truerc and 1 STRIX hoot antennas?
glad your doing more reviews keeps me coming back for content. and as you know we know your a no bs normal ish guy so always respect your opinion
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so i guess the cut off screen wasn't fixed after all? is that an optics problem or software problem? if it's optics i'd buy them and have a go at fixing them myself , but if it's software i'd not buy them
BTW, what diversity modules are compatible with this unit?
Are there any firmware hacks to the goggles themselves?
If they fix the disadvantages of optics in the production version - it will be very cool goggles!
Is it just me, or did the side by side image comparisons around the 16 min mark seem to make the HDO optics look much worse than all the others?
To be honest it's hard to judge the true optical quality this way but it at least lets you see the size of the screen.
I thought I needed new glasses, I agree.
I noticed that also.
That's why I elected to save $100 and get the HD3s.
InFrontOfYourBack1 i ended up getting the dom v3s they always look great to me in every video i see and i like the 16:9
LOL @ the SD card launching itself
When reviewing the RF section of the goggles, can you please let us know about the quad diversity of 200D? My understanding is that these goggles can work with two Eachine diversity receivers (quad diversity). Now, if the original Eachine receivers as not present (which is set A), can we install two diversity receivers or only one? Moreover, if I'd buy a set B, can I remove one of the Eachine receivers and replace with a True D for instance? Would this still be a quad diversity? Appreciate your work and dedication, thank you for the review. !!!
I am just to order my first set of goggles and I am between the EV200 and the Aomway Commander V1. Price is nearly the same. Which one is better? Or is there another, better choice in the same price range?
Commander V1 is, in my opinion, the safest choice. Eachine EV200D will give larger image and more features, but to me the build quality on the Commander feels slightly better. And the Commander V1 is time tested now.
@@JoshuaBardwell Thanks for your answer.
THX for the review. One thing is important to me - the weight of the googles. Would be nice if you could put them on a scale.
happy flying
Hey guys I just recieved the ev200 and my DVR is running in black and white more in googles only, it records in color but playback is black and white, is that normal?
hi Joshua, I could not find an answer for my question in this video so I try it this way.
I got the goggles with 2x diversity receivers (4antennnas). Is it safe to have 2 antennas attached
1 on each receiver and power on the goggles? and what If I only have 1 antenna at the moment?
there is no (quick) answer for this goggle and have not turned it on since I got them. Can you give us detailed information
on how to and how not to connect the antenna's (configuration)
thanks!
WIth a receiver, there is no danger in having antennas removed. Only with devices that transmit, which goggles don't do.
Is the view you showed of HD2 what you actually see in the goggles ? Because I see absolutely no blurry edges. That's what drives me towards Commander v2 instead of a pair of used HD2 (or T2) as I think I will love high FOV coming from box style for a year and a half now and I unfortunately can't try any goggles in my region and don't want to go wrong...
By the way you you rather recommend the HD3 core or the T2 (if they are very similar to the HD2) as they are the same price ? Thank you :)
The HD2 has no blurry edges if your eye is PERFECTLY positioned. Just in real life few people's eyes are perfectly positioned.
By perfectly positionned you mean in distance from the lenses, not in the right-left direction ? That's a matter of foam thickness then ? If it is always possible to get a perfectly clear image with the HD2 by doing some tweaks you would have solved dozens of hours of fear of buying a pair of goggles that would be blurry.
You mentioned the diopter lens... did they fit perfectly on it? Or was there some tweaking that you needed to do to the lens?
No tweaking needed. It fits Fat Shark diopters perfectly.
Hi Josh, probbably got this commented: your prescription glasses reflections are a bit distracting. maybe use softboxes? dont know - just feedback. Now I keep watching a very old goggles review :)
Can somebody explain to me how to record with DVR? Its not working for me. I put the microSD card in the googles, power them on, then press around 10 sec to get into the REC Menu and then i press DVR button for 1 second and after my flight i also press the DVR button to stop the recording. But then there is no recording showing when i want to watch it on the googles. Even on my pc it says the microSD card is empty? Any tips or did I do something wrong?
I broke out in uncontrolled laughter at the start of the video seeing the goggles on your head.
Just the fact that you compared these goggles to a dom v3 or any top tier fat shark sold me on them.
I am currently using the Skyzone 02S V+ goggles and I have some quad mounting their scam302 3D camera and STX202 stereo VTX.
Is it possible to set the receivers to get the 3D effect as with the Skyzone goggles? (one freq for the Left display and another freq for the Right one)?
Im pretty sure the skyzone has only a single channel receiver. It can receive side by side or interlaced 3d but not 2 channel.
Hi Joshua,
I'm trying to use my ev200d with my simulator, i turn on goggles, had setup my pc with 1280x720 res
then press mode button for hdmi 2d and then conect, but jeez nothing happen
... any hint?
If the PC resolution is too high, the goggle HDMI input may not accept it. Try reducing resolution to 800x600 or even 640x480 maybe.
Hola josua, sabes si valen los RX 1,3 ghz para las eachine ev200D, ¿los admite?,
seria interesante saberlo.
gracias josua
the resize issue is addressed by turning the quad/camera on before the goggles so it can adjust properly. i've occasionally seen this on my dom v3's (true-D) and I know I've seen it on the eachine dvr module too (at least the black plug n play one). I suspect with the doms its really because on some quads I might have pal or ntsc selected and others auto (depending on camera and my laziness).
Thanks Josh!! So appreciate what you do bro.. 👍
I read some comments, I believe you did an excellent job. So, thank you!
Yo JB! What do you suggest EV200D or Flysight Falcon FG01?
Personally I would take the Falcon but it will cost a little more.
what do you like in the $200 range...thanx for responding to my message.
FXT Viper. EV800D. There aren't any fat-shark-style goggles in the $200 that I think are very good. It's all box goggles.
Nice to finally see a competitive horse in the race. Now things will start to change.
Hi!
What kind of goggles do you use with your glasses?
Thank you
What indoor fpv would you recommend for someone new to fpv and I do have a t8sg v2 plus? Thanks
can this use 2 modules from third parties at the same time? or only one module at a time?
Dear Joshua, please throw a run cam sparrow and a basic vtx together on a board or something so you can properly review 16:9 goggles without (only) complaining about how bad they look with 4:3 cameras. Sure, many people run 4:3 cameras. But I don't! :D. I use the sparrow, and the runcam split with my skyzone goggles. All 16:9. I love the view! Anyway. Thanks for another great video. Keep up the good work!
The things that are wrong with them have nothing to do with whether the camera is 16:9 or 4:3. I can view the 4:3 image stretched to 16:9 and see the same thing as I would see if I were looking at a 16:9 camera. I can tell what is the effect of the stretched image and what is an innate characteristic of the goggle.
Joshua Bardwell I suppose I'm willing to take your word for it. I brought it up because in my experience, my native 16:9 goggles (skyzone v+) work perfectly with my native 16:9 cameras, but might be a little off when I watch a feed from a 4:3 camera... So when I watch your video commentary about various goggles I find myself wishing you would connect them to one of the cameras I use. If I've read you right, you prefer the 4:3. Honestly, I MIGHT have preferred that aspect ratio, but I got my skyzone's on sale, so I'm committed :) -you know, maybe that could be a subject for a future video? "Best 16:9 cameras and goggles" -what do you think?
Did someone from Dubai design the fan?
specifically palm island
skyzone v2+ or eachine ev200 -what better to buy?
Is cropping of the image a source of the receivers or the displays? Would buying a receiver module solve the cropping problem? Thank you for the info.
It's the display and driver, not the receiver.
Joshua Bardwell Thank you. It would be great if they can solve it with a firmware upgrade. Sad oversight on their part. Cheers to quad diversity though. I can finally cover 270 degrees in my backyard. Thanks for all the time you put into these videos.
FYI... H.264 is a codec not resolution.
I got these goggles and have the exact same problem. I cannot see the full screen and it’s frustrating! I’m really thinking of changing to something else but not sure what else, I’m going to have to pay a bit more
So it seems it's not fixed yet in the final product? That indeed is frustrating for OSD.
It was much closer than I expected. I've order the fatshark hdo, and the ev200d. I do like larger fov, but I'll know when they get here. One of them will grow on me hopefully.
Great video. I hope they address some of the issues you captured. On a side note...I recently picked up HD3s (upgraded from DomV3s) and mine aren't nearly as sharp at the corners as yours. I figured it's my vision..I play with the IPD to center the sweet spot but I certainly can't get it sharp to the edges. Could they befective?
It's more likely your eyes than the goggles. Also the camera doesn't represent 100% perfectly what the eye sees.
How does it look using a 16:9 camera? Do you still lose the edge of the image?
The display device doesn't know whether the camera intends to show a 16:9 or 4:3 image. It's just an NTSC signal.
you just saved me $300. THANK YOU! I need the image quality, coming from Headplay HD box goggles. My problem is my IPD is 57mm, which is too narrow for Fat Sharks, so I was exited about the 56+mm range of the EV200D. The Headplay's are wonderful image, but really suck to travel with. Any recommendations for my narrow IPD issue?
One question. I'm not an FPV Racer but would like the experience of FPV in a more cinematic role. I have a Mavic Pro which I would like to set up with FPV goggles for vacation videos. I'm so confused about the transmitters, and or modules and antennaes that I don't know if I even want the goggles. From the videos I've watched all I see is pixelated images and broken video that I wonder if it's worth all the hassel especially if I want undistorted images. Is there a pair of goggles that will not have signal loss and can I fly out to a distance of a mile with the goggles without losing my drone.
The Mavic cannot transmit to analog FPV style goggles. You would need the Goggles RE from DJI. If you seriously want a set, I actually have one that I'm thinking about selling. Email me joshuabardwell@gmail.com if you're interested.
Davros called. He wants his goggles back😂
HI, do not know if you can help? but took a working rapidfire module from my dominator v3 and fitted it in the ev200d and all i get is a snow rolling faint image of the rapid fire osd, tried a pro58 module and that works with the ev200d, any information to rectify this would be appreciated.
RapidFire is not guaranteed to work with EV200D. They may not be compatible because of the EV200D quadversity feature.
Did you have two modules int he EV200 or one? Try the RapidFire all by itself.
@@JoshuaBardwell thanks for the quick reply!, tried it with just the rapidfire on its own, no module in the other port.
I would like to know if the EV200D has a 3s battery, as the box says it can hold a 2s to 3s battery, but the manual does not measure anything.
Something is telling me your current sensor is off on that build 😀
Nonsense! Joshua is obviously cooling off his cpu
What's going on with the mah/amp usage on the feed you were using? Bad scale?
Yep.
I could not use Next Wave Fat Shark 1.3Ghz module right? I was going to use these goggles but I dont know what to do about a 1.3Ghz receiver thats not big and can work with the goggles because I could not find one that did. Any suggestions???????
Why can't you use the 1.3 GHz module? I'm not sure I understand.
Well could you use it with the Ev200d goggles. I wanted to have 1.3ghz receiver but I dont know what to use if the module dosent work.
I'd be curious to see these compared to the Skyzone Sky02 (borrow Drews maybe). I have been fine with mine but newer goggles that have come out do have some tempting features and make me curious if a upgrade would be worth it.
Curious to see range test, looking into a lot of options for my first set of goggles. These look like they should be good, but others i'm deciding between are Aomway commander v1, Skyzone sky02, and FS Dom. V2 or 3. Budget is tight so watching all i can on these. Good job Josh
Joshua, the zoom happens also on eachine DVR alone...its a bug...you have to power on quad first so the signal is available and goggles can adjust....works on my DVR...may help here also
I had same behaviour and I found same solution with my Eachine ProDVR
One person that these are for are a person with whom's IPD is too narrow for any fatsharks. I have that problem. I have tried fatsharks and I couldn't get them narrow enough so that I could see both screens. My EV100's IPD fits me perfectly so I am hoping these EV200's will be an upgrade for me.
i am ok with everything but i miss some kind of led indicator of the multiversity...at least i want to see the modules switching. call me crazy, but without indicator you just have to be a believer
Love the Bullwinkle look at 0:03
Loving my EV200D's, just flying my Whoops around the house where my other goggles would break up and lose a bit of video, these stay clear the whole time
Josh’s reviews are the best.
Unfortunately the table of contents in the video description doesn't have clickable time stamps for mobile users. Seems like the only way to make it active for mobile is to paste it in a comment and put a pin in it.
This appears to be a TH-cam issue. They are clickable in desktop.
Joshua Bardwell yeah seems to just be a TH-cam issue...or maybe by design...I can't figure it out but thr TH-cam studio beta is full of issues too 😂
Great review mate, bit perplexed over the long wait for them to be publicly available.
Ended up buying HD3 new from HobbyKing for $550AUD, because I couldn't wait for these. Then saw a goggles drone package second hand on Facebook marketplace, with the rare HD2 as the goggles. I negotiated seller into selling me the goggles only, for $350AUD. This was before the TerminatorsHD2 release. Still very happy to have a daily HD2, and use HD3 on the weekends. I don't race, just fly for pleasure.
Did look at HDO, but couldn't justify the price. As I have 2x sets for almost the same price as HDO.
Also a firm believer of having a spare of everything.haha
Great to see that EV200D are out, well almost.
Will look forward to your range testing video.
Paul
? can any one tell me if the sound on these work this time. i`ve had the EV-100 and i had no sound sad but true. so does it have sound
how do we know if they have fixed the issues !!? ...
if i order i want to know googles will work. QC at client is a no go for me.
would like to see some rf testting where you put the RX to the edge (previous ev100 had an issue when going behind a bush
.. where image would freeze white and not switch back unless u change channel -crashed a few times while testing) of signal DSP issue!!
thanks.
That initial clip with 4 x-airs .... I died
Hi Joshua
I like your vid's 😎.
My question for you is this.
I have the ev200d for 1 year now but have not used it more than 30 times. The battery that came with it did not last for 3 flights in total, so defective. Meanwhile I used the micro USB plug.
But now it doesn't work anymore I get a black screen. I tried it with a power supply DC plug and still nothing. I noticed that the diversity modules has not lights when I plug the battery or DC power supply. Any idea what it could be. Because banggood isn't any helpful at all. Customer service is useless and does not comply in any way.
Any advice from you.
I'm sorry man but it just sounds like it's broken and should be discarded. If you have a lot of ingenuity, maybe you can figure out how to fix it. I certainly can't tell you how to fix it over the Internet though :-(