Ur gonna cut and or fray the strap going thru rim. Ask me i know. You need to put lasso on front tires pulling slightly foward AND straps on back tires pulling slightly backward. Simple Nd effective
@@SierraADV that's the point and that's why he said Do not do it the straight down method that Vulcan recommends. Did you watch the vid.. he said do not do it that way
You can do the same thing with the lasso over the tire but hook the hook slightly forward and backward. I haul two jeeps on a 30’ trailer with about 3 inches between them and have never had them touch. Don’t have straps crossing/rubbing. Doing it this way gives you better leverage over the top of the tire than going through the wheel. Both work but I don’t have to undo the lasso. Just loosen and flip it off the tire. Goes in the bag that way and right back on when it’s time to go.
This IS the way to do it for sure. But then some of us have those 'clunky' four wheelers with the steel wheels with no holes to run the strap through the rim...
This through the rim method would not work well for wheels that are encrusted with ice and mud. I think the manufacturers recommended 10 and 2 method would work much better if the ratchets were not pointed straight down but rather a little forward of center on the front tires and a little back of center on the rear tires.
I strap my ATV down through the wheels just like you are showing. You should leave it in neutral when towing. If you look in your owners manual it will tell you not to tow machine in park.
I would agree and disagree. 1- Tongue weight is very light for the way you loaded, (Rubicon 800lbs/ Talon 1800lbs) you have more weight on the back axle, that's why it pulls like its absorbing and you probably get a lot of sway. I only say that because I pulled with a 2016 F-150 Coyote and had the same set up (KRX 1000/ H.O.450). Now, I have a 2020 F-350 Dually, longer 20' trailer, 60/40 weight (Primary front) and have to remind myself that I am pulling a trailer it's so smooth.
Great video. i agree that's the better way to use them instead of 10 & 2. i wouldn't agree on loading trailer, but the title is "using lasso straps the right way". not sure why every1 else is complaining about it. lol
I mounted D hooks along the centre line of the trailer and use my winch front and back to anchor the unit down and then strap side to side. I do this in Neutral and then pop it in gear and put on the emergency brake on my Defender. I like those straps…..pricey……I use similar, but they are an X pattern to the undercarriage.
Yep. If you strap to a point on the tire either above the axle bearing center point or below, it can move. Best way is to find the tire place to anchor to that is where the strap is pointing from the trailer anchor point to the center of the wheel bearing point. That way it is the shortest pull and cannot roll up or down. Great video. Like your machines.
I just put d rings in the front and rear of each tire then put a ratchet strap over the centre of the tire hooked to both drings then tighten it down . I’ve never had a problem doing it that way
What are the front wheel straps attached to on the trailer? I can see where they run under the plate for the Jack but where are they hooks attached? Awesome video!!!!!!
The straps should go over the tires at 10 and 2 and pull away from or towards each other. Also, I would bet that trailer wiggles while towing with all the weight to the rear.
Yes that would work as well. The point is that the way they recommend using them is not safe. And no the trailer does not sway at all, that F150 is always loaded down with fire wood, coolers, camping gear, extra gas cans, ect.
@@mudbanditoffroad6643 you should still always have some positive tongue weight... never negative. You don't need or want a ton of tongue weight, but always some for sure.. it's not about how much weight you have In the truck.. make sure tongue weight is positive
@@CP-ux9zd The 700 lb quad on the nose of the trailer more than makes up for it. Being that far out has a lever effect. The rear of the sxs (even with the engine) does not come close to weighing the same as the quad in the front plus the full weight of the longer trailer frame in the front half.
To be fair . The over the top works if used in opposition like your threw wheel does . In a hard breaking point . Your only holding by 2 axels . I understand that more for short trips on known roads . Double up if not.
You know what your flexing when you tie down to the wheels, your bearings and tie rods, the knuckle, its tough on all your steering components. You suspension can handle a light load for a couple hour drive with 0 issue, A-arms are great, factory tied down points that they ship the unit with is best. I mean, they are shipped FULLY compressed almost.
U should be going around both lower sides of the pocket and hook on one top side of it. Now it has to break 2 welds not just one weld hooked on one side of pocket. Get the right DOT officer and he'll make u change it or ticket
I have a question. I don’t know if some people do it, but would it be a problem if people use their heavy duty pintle ring trailers (the construction ones) to haul regular vehicles?
You should always lock your brakes in have it in forward gear then strap it down all four corners or at least two like i do i use two straps for the utvs i transport and not one issue what so ever nor will they move at highway speeds. I pretty much do an x pattern with my straps and bam i fold the excess strap loop it under and around above the ratchet then tighten it down where the straps are tight as can be around the unit and triple check before leaving and any time i stop..
I just think this is silly. Commercial car haulers use this type of lasso strap and never have a bit of movement. Yes, using ONE strap you're gonna get movement. It would be that way if be only used 1 through the wheel as well. Also keep in mind if you have beadlocks, the inside edge might be sharp. You'll need to protect that strap from rubbing/cutting. Anyone can secure their machine through the wheel with traditional 1.5" ratchet straps and not have to go spend extra money on an. Expensive securement system
From what I have seen, wrecker companies use lasso straps just like shown in the first part of the video BUT the straps connect behind and In front of each tire that way it cannot roll at all.
Wow dude those straps are not desinged to work the way you are showing. The truth is they are desinged to pull directly downward. ON A VEHICHLE SITTING IN WHEEL GRIDS . PEOPLE
Yes I have park, after it is securely strapped down, I put it in park. There is no emergency brake on the Talon's. I rely on the straps to hold the machine in place, not the transmission!
@@mudbanditoffroad6643 the dealership should tell you don’t use park every dealership I’ve been to told me that they say it will stretch the park line out and mess it up
@@THETRUTH-ld2mh the parking pawl in the transmission will het damaged. Cables are not in any threat to doing this. Been in many SXS transmissions for failures due to this.
So... you think you are smarter than the DOT approved tow companies that use lassos appropriately, by running them over the tires and pulling forward and rearward, not straight down. This is dumb.
Nice method. I use tire basket straps, with E track. Solid, doesn't move a bit. I like your method as well, looks efficient and safe
Thanks for the comment!
Ur gonna cut and or fray the strap going thru rim. Ask me i know. You need to put lasso on front tires pulling slightly foward AND straps on back tires pulling slightly backward. Simple Nd effective
Need the straps pulling forward and backwards
It is..
@@TylerCook-tj4zb no, it's pulling straight down and you clearly didn't tighten them much at all.
You need to be smarter than the tool...
@@SierraADV that's the point and that's why he said Do not do it the straight down method that Vulcan recommends. Did you watch the vid.. he said do not do it that way
@@CP-ux9zdyes but the way he did it the first time was totally wrong and not how the straps are meant to be used.
@@SierraADVpicture an emergency stop einstien
You can do the same thing with the lasso over the tire but hook the hook slightly forward and backward. I haul two jeeps on a 30’ trailer with about 3 inches between them and have never had them touch. Don’t have straps crossing/rubbing. Doing it this way gives you better leverage over the top of the tire than going through the wheel. Both work but I don’t have to undo the lasso. Just loosen and flip it off the tire. Goes in the bag that way and right back on when it’s time to go.
That’s how I do it too
Very well demonstrated. I will be doing it this way.
That really is the best way. I haul dang near every thing that way on rubber
This IS the way to do it for sure. But then some of us have those 'clunky' four wheelers with the steel wheels with no holes to run the strap through the rim...
Excellent Video - very thorough! Uses logic and common sense
The lasso straps I have say to have the tie downs tied 2-6” in front of the fronts or 2-6” behind the rears. And mine can’t go through the rims.
This through the rim method would not work well for wheels that are encrusted with ice and mud. I think the manufacturers recommended 10 and 2 method would work much better if the ratchets were not pointed straight down but rather a little forward of center on the front tires and a little back of center on the rear tires.
Y’all do it just like I do. SXS never moves at all. Happy wheeling to Ya.
I strap my ATV down through the wheels just like you are showing. You should leave it in neutral when towing. If you look in your owners manual it will tell you not to tow machine in park.
Sharp edges on the rims could saw into the strap and cause failure. I wouldn't run them through the rim.
Great Video, Very helpful--thanks for posting!
I would agree and disagree. 1- Tongue weight is very light for the way you loaded, (Rubicon 800lbs/ Talon 1800lbs) you have more weight on the back axle, that's why it pulls like its absorbing and you probably get a lot of sway. I only say that because I pulled with a 2016 F-150 Coyote and had the same set up (KRX 1000/ H.O.450). Now, I have a 2020 F-350 Dually, longer 20' trailer, 60/40 weight (Primary front) and have to remind myself that I am pulling a trailer it's so smooth.
Great video. i agree that's the better way to use them instead of 10 & 2. i wouldn't agree on loading trailer, but the title is "using lasso straps the right way". not sure why every1 else is complaining about it. lol
I mounted D hooks along the centre line of the trailer and use my winch front and back to anchor the unit down and then strap side to side. I do this in Neutral and then pop it in gear and put on the emergency brake on my Defender. I like those straps…..pricey……I use similar, but they are an X pattern to the undercarriage.
Yep. If you strap to a point on the tire either above the axle bearing center point or below, it can move. Best way is to find the tire place to anchor to that is where the strap is pointing from the trailer anchor point to the center of the wheel bearing point. That way it is the shortest pull and cannot roll up or down. Great video. Like your machines.
Looks legit..... in canada we don't strap nothing cause we expert
Lol, awesome!
I just put d rings in the front and rear of each tire then put a ratchet strap over the centre of the tire hooked to both drings then tighten it down . I’ve never had a problem doing it that way
Great video, thanks
So if you leave it in neutral do you use the E-Brake as well?
I agree. Great video!
I used to go through my rims but they were cutting the strap when hauling.
What are the front wheel straps attached to on the trailer? I can see where they run under the plate for the Jack but where are they hooks attached? Awesome video!!!!!!
They wrap around that heave angle iron and hook
I had the same question and wish the video showed it. Do you have a video that shows it?@@mudbanditoffroad6643
Damn wish i had wat ched this last week. Could not figure out why my damn buggy kept moving. Will try this method out next week.
The straps should go over the tires at 10 and 2 and pull away from or towards each other. Also, I would bet that trailer wiggles while towing with all the weight to the rear.
Yes that would work as well. The point is that the way they recommend using them is not safe. And no the trailer does not sway at all, that F150 is always loaded down with fire wood, coolers, camping gear, extra gas cans, ect.
@@mudbanditoffroad6643 you should still always have some positive tongue weight... never negative. You don't need or want a ton of tongue weight, but always some for sure.. it's not about how much weight you have In the truck.. make sure tongue weight is positive
@@CP-ux9zd The 700 lb quad on the nose of the trailer more than makes up for it. Being that far out has a lever effect. The rear of the sxs (even with the engine) does not come close to weighing the same as the quad in the front plus the full weight of the longer trailer frame in the front half.
Love the Talon and rubicon
Thanks brother!
I thought the same thing. I do not do that. I use the large two inch straps on the a arms and go in a x pattern
Now what if your machine has stock rims without holes in them?
i literally just watched a video explaining this method of strapping and 1st thing i thought was i'd never strap like that.
What keeps your S × S from moving sideways??
Its strapped on all 4 corners, it can't move any direction.
That strapping method is only made for strapping front wheels to a tow truck stinger
Those are wheel lift straps for tow trucks
To be fair . The over the top works if used in opposition like your threw wheel does .
In a hard breaking point . Your only holding by 2 axels . I understand that more for short trips on known roads . Double up if not.
Good stuff....best way I think to haul
Are them 2" straps?
Yes they are
When strapping down the atv,utv,car,truck,tractor etc, they must be tied down under f-r tension or compression. Thank you for the video
Many times the load is more secure with some tension on suspension too.
Don't ask me how I know.😅
Not everyone wants the straps on there expensive aluminum wheels you can still go around the tire but pull the front forward and the back backwards
You know what your flexing when you tie down to the wheels, your bearings and tie rods, the knuckle, its tough on all your steering components. You suspension can handle a light load for a couple hour drive with 0 issue, A-arms are great, factory tied down points that they ship the unit with is best. I mean, they are shipped FULLY compressed almost.
How long is your trailer?
off topic, any videos of the front bumper/winch build
I will have that video out soon, thanks!
Is that winch hooked to the front rack?😬
Yes it is. We ride deep water and mud, this keeps it high and dry for the most part. It's for self recovery only!
U should be going around both lower sides of the pocket and hook on one top side of it. Now it has to break 2 welds not just one weld hooked on one side of pocket. Get the right DOT officer and he'll make u change it or ticket
Or under one lower and other side upper if u go up thru the pocket. This way it has to break 2 welds in a accident or rough travels
It wont rock much in park with the parking brake on 😉
I have a question. I don’t know if some people do it, but would it be a problem if people use their heavy duty pintle ring trailers (the construction ones) to haul regular vehicles?
Shouldn’t be an issue.
Tight? Your tires are not even squared, what psi are you running 120?
8 psi
I always strap mine in gear not in neutral.
I put mine in neutral until all my straps are tight, then I put it in park.
You should always lock your brakes in have it in forward gear then strap it down all four corners or at least two like i do i use two straps for the utvs i transport and not one issue what so ever nor will they move at highway speeds. I pretty much do an x pattern with my straps and bam i fold the excess strap loop it under and around above the ratchet then tighten it down where the straps are tight as can be around the unit and triple check before leaving and any time i stop..
A man can lose his load if not secured correctly. And it’s hilarious as long as it happens to someone else.
It will be fine…..😂
I just think this is silly. Commercial car haulers use this type of lasso strap and never have a bit of movement. Yes, using ONE strap you're gonna get movement. It would be that way if be only used 1 through the wheel as well. Also keep in mind if you have beadlocks, the inside edge might be sharp. You'll need to protect that strap from rubbing/cutting. Anyone can secure their machine through the wheel with traditional 1.5" ratchet straps and not have to go spend extra money on an. Expensive securement system
From what I have seen, wrecker companies use lasso straps just like shown in the first part of the video BUT the straps connect behind and In front of each tire that way it cannot roll at all.
You did it all wrong! And they don’t recommend only strapping two wheels!?!? 🤦🏼♂️
LMFAO you need to do the back too DUH
Well,now you're just using the Lasso straps like regular ratchet straps!
Wow dude those straps are not desinged to work the way you are showing. The truth is they are desinged to pull directly downward. ON A VEHICHLE SITTING IN WHEEL GRIDS . PEOPLE
Not good to haul something in a bind where nothing can give
U need 4 pts for that method to work
I guess you don't have park
Yes I have park, after it is securely strapped down, I put it in park. There is no emergency brake on the Talon's. I rely on the straps to hold the machine in place, not the transmission!
@@mudbanditoffroad6643 the dealership should tell you don’t use park every dealership I’ve been to told me that they say it will stretch the park line out and mess it up
@@mudbanditoffroad6643 but thanks for the video gave me some new ideals
@@THETRUTH-ld2mh the parking pawl in the transmission will het damaged. Cables are not in any threat to doing this. Been in many SXS transmissions for failures due to this.
So... you think you are smarter than the DOT approved tow companies that use lassos appropriately, by running them over the tires and pulling forward and rearward, not straight down.
This is dumb.
Forward not “Faward.”