Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau sings: Bach, Grosser Herr und starker König (Weihnachtsoratorium)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- Recorded for TV in Juli 1963, first broadcasted Christmas / New Year (in 6 parts). Next to D. Fischer-Dieskau Irmgard Poppen is playing the cello. Agnes Giebel, Marga Hoeffgen und Peter Pears. Freiburger Bachchor, conductor Theodor Egel.
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D.F.D. greart historical recording. Yes, the trumpet player is fantastic!
BEAUTIFUL!!! And, bravo to the piccolo trumpet player. Brutally difficult aria.
Heinz Zicker, im Alter vo 103 Jahren am 12.11.2023 verstorben. Der beste Trompeter aller Zeiten
Herr dieskau singt wunderbar dieser kantatien, ihre Töne und ihre Kunst Bachs Musik erschallten......
Ahh vielen dank. Dieskau ist ein Meistersänger.
Er war,ist und bleibt der größte deutsche Liedsänger aller Zeiten!!!Für immer unübertroffen!!!
Wonderful! What a voice! And the trumpet!!
Heinz Zickler, my father. He has died at 12.11.2023 in the age of 103 J.
Ace rendition of this incredibly touching masterpiece by Mr Bach. THX for sharing
It is wonderful to hear this piece sung beautifully by a great singer who had an appropriate voice for it, and performed at the right pitch with superb instrumental sound.
Ich liebe dich, DFD!! Rest in peace. Vielen dank
Sein Gesang ist einzigartig. Sehr gut!
Dietrich cuanto te echo de menos. Tus modulaciones y perfecta dicción son inigualables. No me canso de oírte y eres el mejor remedio para subir mi ánimo. Solo me falta oírte en directo. Este registro de 1963 es fantástico en todos los aspectos
Tellement émouvant de voir (enfin) "Irmel" Poppen aux côtés de son mari quelques mois avant son décès !
Who am to even try to add to the justified accolades expressed by others on this forum? I loved his voice and every one of interpretations of whatever he sang. I would have gladly paid money to hear him sing from the telephone directory. In this particular piece his contribution is everything it should be and then acres more. Had Bach been in the audience he would surely have wept with joy on hearing this rendition of his work...
Dieskau, un vero maestro. Uno dei più grandi musicisti e studiosi dell'arte dell'interpretazione della seconda metà del secolo ventesimo.
This is my favourite version. Classic recording. What a voice!
Around this time he recorded the piece complete - great singing with Hoffgen, Giebel and Traxel
The Incomparable Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau! Absolutely irreplaceable! The music world lost a Giant among giants! God's gain is our loss!
Wonderful！Great Singer！💯✨
He had such a great voice. Light but beautiful
Heinz Zickler, 1. Trumpet Gewandhaus-Orchestra Leipzig, 1956 escaped to Wiesbaden, very fine Organist and Cantor
Absolutely the best interpretation pf this aria!
Sensationel!
I have this recording, how nice to see it in high def black and white.
DFD did not have a booming voice for a baritone, but the timbre was unmistakeable, and his phrasing and technique were unsurpassed. One of the 20th century's greatest singers.
I kind of like it that he didn't have the kind of voice that knocked you through the wall....but "hugged" you with its sound.
Wonderful!!!
Fischer Dieskau is the king of the singers. Hail forevet!
Fischer-Dieskau's performance is unique, incomparable and unsurpassed! He was the most important singer of the 20th century!
Impecable, inconfundible Dieskau, pese a las limitaciones técnicas de la grabación. Sensacional.
Thank you so much for posting. This is just fantastic! :)
RIP DFD A great singer
Sublime.
with HEINZ ZICKLER, solo trumpet, as great as Mr Fischer-Dieskau himself in that historic video!
oh yes, thank for mentioning!!
I am pretty sure Bach would have loved to hear what modern instruments can do with his music as well as period pieces - his humanity and genius can take any number of playings! DFD showing his mastery of his instrument! Personally I prefer a little more weight to the chest ( just to give the brass a run for their money!) but this is a lovely interpretation. The one voice I would love to have heard doing this is Kipnis!
This piece would have been too high for Kipnis. All the bass-clef solo writing in the Christmas Oratorio calls for a baritone.
His Lower register is not as strong as his upper and one could imagine a better performance but it is only in the imagination .The interpretation and the way his voice fits so well with the words are wonderful. This is why his singing of Schubert Lieder has never been surpassed.
Wieviel besser als alle anderen.
Gaston Van den Broeck
Hermann Prey?
Heinz Zickler, der Solotrompeter in dieser Aufnahme wurde am 25. März 2023 103 Jahre alt. Wer die Instrumente aus der damaligen Zeit kennt, weiß diese hervorragende Leistung um so höher einzuschätzen.
Heinz Zickler ist nun am 11. November 2023 verstorben. RIP
Ich muss mich korrigieren: Er verstarb am 12. November. Ich hatte die Angabe aus Wikipedia ungeprüft übernommen ...
@TheBfwal1 It's true!!! NEVER saw any singer able to do anything as huge as his repertorio and sense, i personally admire him, to me there are no other singers but DFD. I like Gerard Souzay, rene pape, and thomas quasthoff, or even kurt moll (cant deny the last 3 have large voices), personally i think they're really great, but this man is above'em... so again, talking about timbre and size and not just about timbre: can u say "there are no greater instruments than DFD?". That's my point o'view.
Wo nur wo sind deutsche Kommentare? Wunderbare Kunst für...
ist doch egal welche sprache die leute sprechen, es geht hier um die musik
Wonderful recording! Is it possible to get it completely? Has anybody the full recording with Peter Pears?
I am very much in favour of letting Fischer-Dieskau rest in peace. I have posted many of his fine performances. I understood that you made an unjustified negative comment about him, so I sought to address that! I find it amazing that people like you think they know better than great artists. I apologize for the personal remark, as I don't like it when others get personal, but your comment annoyed me, especially as I read it so soon after the sad death of this outstanding singer!
nádhera...❤
Fantastic! Is this whole performance here on TH-cam?
@CelesteGabriel Thanks celeste! sometimes i really miss this kind of voices where nothing is random nor accidental. I like very much bastianini or carreras, but this is another level of singer, not better not worse, just another singer.
I believe he recorded it complete twice - for Foster and Ledger
It may come as a surprise to you, but I have uploaded here several of his best performances of Bach under Karl Richter. If you wish, you may find them in my #1/3 Karl Richter playlist.
It is humanly impossible for any artist to be always at his/her peak. With all due respect for him, the late and great Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau was not at his best when he performed this piece - and it will take more than your offensive remarks to make me change my opinion about it.
Die Aufnahme kommt übrigens nicht aus einem Ort Birnau, sondern aus der bekannten Rokoko-Wallfahrtskirche Birnau bei Nußdorf am Bodensee, zwischen Überlingen und Meersburg.
Meine Eltern haben direkt nach dem Krieg 5 Jahre lang begeistert im Freiburger Bachchor mitgesungen.
Hier noch eine historische Fernsehaufnahme von Anfang 60er Jahre mit dem Freiburger Bachchor, Theodor Egel (Dirigent) und seiner Frau Marga Höffgen (Alt-Stimme):
www.ardmediathek.de/video/swr-retro-abendschau/bachchor-freiburg-gestern-in-paris/swr/Y3JpZDovL3N3ci5kZS9hZXgvbzExOTA3NDE
Tragically, cellist Irmgard Poppen Fischer-Dieskau died of complications following childbirth only five months after this film was made and before it was first broadcast for Christmas 1963.
Ooh, we sang this at school when I was a kid! (in English translation and pitched for girls' voices, obvs...)
oh i love it. if the record could be any louder? anyway.
i love it
el mejor!!!!
@delleceste The director is Theodor Egel. See description above.
Neither do I: I've had enough of them long time ago. As far as I'm concerned, this argument is over.
Was there any trumpet??? for the cameraman certainely not ...
@catenazz - Sono assolutamente d'accordo! Fischer-Dieskau lui stesso sembra non avere capito quello che stai cantando...
Tolle Aufnahme. Was fuer eine herrliche Stimme. Koennte das Fritz Henker mit Fagott sein. Kopf leider halb abgeschnitten ?. Ich bin seine Tochter
RIP
Please, abstain yourself from personal offensive remarks; and, please, PLEASE, let Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau rest in peace! Thank you.
Sync a bit off, but a fine performance. The early-Sixties hairstyles add a bit of period charm.
International Music Score Library Project, or IMSLP.org.
I imagine the director is Karl Richter, but just guessing from the style and the fact that they used to work together in that period... can anyone confirm this?
Nein! Der Dirigent war Theodor Egel.
Diese Arie hat 2 Solisten, den Sänger und den Trompeter. Wenn einer fehlt, taugt die ganze Musik nichts. Es ist respektlos, den Solotrompeter Heinz Zickler nicht im Titel zu nennen! Dieser wurde übrigens in diesem Jahr 100 Jahre alt! www.selk.de/index.php/newsletter/6012-heinz-zickler-wird-100-23-03-2020
Da haben Sie tatsächlich recht!
Anyone know who the trumpet player is? Thanks?
Tim Phillips Per uli gabriella's comment, above: First trumpet is Heinz Zickler, first trumpet in Gewandhaus-Orchestra Leipzig. Until 1956, when he escaped to Wiesbaden. Fine organist and cantor. Astounding, isn't he? I wonder how he escaped?
The guy at the harpsichord xD
Ecco come NON si deve eseguire Bach!
Do you have any idea what he is singing, or why he is singing like this?
You may not like it but you should try to express your rather extreme opinion in a more moderate and reasonable way. I don't agree with you, and it is clear that many others don't either!
der größte Sänger aller Zeiten ist gerade an Weihnachten mit dieser Arie ein "muß". Diese Aufnahme aus der Klosterkirche Birnau wird leider nicht vermarktet (ZDF und Birnau dumm). Es würden bestimmt viele Liebhaber diese Aufnahme kaufen.
Der größte Sänger aller Zeiten ???? 😱 oh mein Gott.
DFD... Phrasing, Fiato and feeling. Not a great instrument, but a HUGE brain a HUGE good taste in matter of sense.
He is about half way here to his established weight, but if you look at the earliest photos he must have lost as much as Callas.
I am sorry you found my remarks offensive, and I have already apologized. Even at less than his best Fischer-Dieskau was better than most , and certainly worth listening to. You are entitled to your opinion (although I found it offensive), so we will just have to agree to disagree. I do not want to engage in another of these long,fruitless discussions or arguments so common on TH-cam.
I usually hate Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau--he's all trills and frills, flutey and snooty, but this particular recital is fantastic. Other than losing some sound on his low notes, his delivery of this incredibly difficult aria is flawless.
Theodore you have not listened much to F-D I suspect. Flutey and snooty, what a ridiculous comment.
@Gordon LIlley I agree!
Well not every baritone has to sound like bastianini. I find Fischer-dieskau's type of voice - not overwhelming, but sweet, reassuring and comforting - to be absolutely ideal for oriatorio.
@@falkfink I would say: ideal for _lieder_ and adequate for oratorio.
I agree, he's very good for _lieder_ although his affectations mean that you always know it's DFD. Why not just sing the songs, like all these wonderful old-school midrange baritones like Gerhard Hüsch, Heinrich Schlusnus, Karl Schmitt-Walter, and Marko Rothmüller? Sing the music and don't try so hard to make it sound like YOU all the time! But that's up to him. My only real objection is when he tries to sing the Dutchman, or Iago, or Fredrich von Telramund, or Macbeth, or any of these big-orchestra parts.
@@ColonelFredPuntridge It's true, his voice is not that well suited to a lot of oratorio, but weihnachtsoratorium is perfect for him in my opinion. I much prefer a baritone struggling with the A's in this piece over a bass barking out the E's. Even more so for the other aria/erleucht auch meine finstren sinnen. But I have to agree, in some oratorio like Eliah or Messiah he really falls short compared to lower voices. His verdi is (in my opinion) an absolute disaster. While holländer is obviously too low for him, I do like his gunther.
This piece is meant for a bass. DFD was not a bass.
Wenn nicht ER . Wer dann? Unschlagbar.✌
Of course you would know much better than Fischer-Dieskau and all the other first-rate artists involved in this peformance! You are very arrogant!
Fischer-Dieskau (who died yesterday) is universally recognized as the greatest singer of his time!
Wagner it isn't.
change it!
Excellent singing, obsolete playing (but great nonetheless!)
Eine weitere Arie für die Dieter Fischkaus Stimme nicht im Entferntesten ausreicht !