Just a personal note:- To be honest, I personally dont like using the word trinity, and i dont need to apply it in my worship. I used the word trinity formula to encapsulate father, son and holy spirit as un-created and co eterrnal, i.e, seperate to creation
By reading the entire chapter, there is a union of three. The Father Yahovah, his son Yeshua and all of us that believe that that his son was sent to save us from this World. We are in union with them and we are all one. That is the Union he is talking about! Thanks for showing me this Chapter. I will be reading other Bibles, to see how they put the words together in English.
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Hi Karen, I have viewed numerous presentations, both for and against, this matter. I have, to date, not been persuaded of a triune God. So, my question here is: How much does this matter, in your view, when it comes to salvation? I have heard some who claim to know that you cannot be a Christian if you cannot accept this revelation/doctrine/attitude. I don't want to cause divisions amongst those earnestly seeking the truth by creating a debate on the matter if it is considered irrelevant. I can offer my own observations in relation to scriptural text to defend my viewpoint. I see from your comment that you don't like using the word trinity and prefer trinity formula. Are you seeking to introduce a third view? I hate all this divisive ideology and find it deflating. The father of the lie can work in mysterious ways to keep us off that narrow path methinks! All very best wishes to you and all viewers to this video!
I know Eric Wilson’s standpoint on that and checked with some Greek scholars. There is simply no scientifical argument besides the (later! 5th century) Aramaic Peshitta and Eusebius (who had an anti trinitarian agenda) to put in doubt Matthew 28,19. Here like in other points Eric Wilson practices eisegesis: every argument to attack the divinity of the Lord is good. - Thanks for the video
To be honest, i dont like using the word trinity, and i dont need to apply it in my worship. I used the word trinity formula to encapsulate father, son and holy spirity as un-creaated and co eterrnal, seperate to creation
My problem with the Trinity is that if Jesus is Yahweh; and the Father is Yahweh and they are both of the same substance and share the same divinity, then how can one of them (Jesus) be a mediator? How can you be a mediator for yourself? How can Jesus be a mediator between men and Yahweh, and at the same time BE Yahweh? Just as Moses was a mediator between Yahweh and the sons of Israel; the mediator of the New covenant can not share the SAME divinity as the father.
Semplicemente perché il Padre non è YHWH,ma semplicemente Padre come lo chiamava Cristo Gesù nostro Signore.YHWH è solo il Figlio,il nostro Signore Gesù Cristo ecco perché Lui è il mediatore fra il Dio Padre e gli uomini.
Thank you, just the fact that Jesus and the holy spirit are not created but have always co existed with God from the same essence and nature proves the divinity of Jesus and the holy spirit. To be honest, I dont need to use the actual word trinity in my personal relationship with God. But I only use the word to encapsulate the status of God. 😊
God is a spirit and we worship in spirit and truth. When Jesus was baptized God's spirit fully manifested into him. At Pentecost God's spirit was put into each disciple. As Acts 2:38 says if we Repent, are baptized in Jesus name for remission of sins, we will be filled with God's holy spirit. Jesus stated that he and the father are one which does not mean he is God or that he is a trinity of God's. God's spirit is in Jesus and he speaks as God because God's word is in him. Thomas recognised that Jesus is lord and the holy spirit in him is God. Jesus never said he was God. He is the son of man and son of God. We kneel to our king and we worship the holy spirit (God) who is in Jesus. What Thomas did was completely appropriate. The trinity is a false doctrine that has been perpetrated on the masses by Babylonian/Catholic doctrine. Praise and glory to the holy father who gives us truth by his word and through his spirit. Praise to the lord Jesus who is the only door by which we are saved because he sent the helper (holy spirit) ten days after his ascension from his father through him. This is why Jesus was given all authority in heaven and earth and says that the angels worship him. Matt 28:18 Peace and blessings to you.
To be honest, i dont like using the word trinity, and i dont need to applybit in my worship. I used the word trinity formula to encapsulate father, son and holy spirity as un-creaated and co eterrnal, seperate to creation
I meant to ask Have you read the peshitta? Jesus as a human was not equal to God but phil 2:6 explains things "6Though he was God,a he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to. 7Instead, he gave up his divine privilegesb; he took the humble position of a slavec and was born as a human being. When he appeared in human form,d 8he humbled himself in obedience to God and died a criminal’s death on a cross"
@karen1saunders is John 8:54-58 a conversation about the identity of Jesus or his age. Please read this passage with the correct Grammar. I look forward hearing from you soon.
I have done. I have asked the father to help me on the right track in understanding the Scriptures. If it's an undisputed Scripture, where or who has disputed it thanks ?
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Just a personal note:- To be honest, I personally dont like using the word trinity, and i dont need to apply it in my worship.
I used the word trinity formula to encapsulate father, son and holy spirit as un-created and co eterrnal, i.e,
seperate to creation
By reading the entire chapter, there is a union of three. The Father Yahovah, his son Yeshua and all of us that believe that that his son was sent to save us from this World. We are in union with them and we are all one. That is the Union
he is talking about! Thanks for showing me this Chapter. I will be reading other Bibles, to see how they put the words together in English.
Thank you very much Karen. This is good research for me and the papers I am writing. I love your simplicity. I have watched lots of channels where individuals just go on and on and then I lose interest. Please keep this kind of content coming. I really love it 🎉🎉❤🎉🎉
Glad it was helpful!
This is a very interesting video and has answered some of my questions. Thank you Karen 😊 🙏 ❤
You are so welcome!
Hi Karen, I have viewed numerous presentations, both for and against, this matter. I have, to date, not been persuaded of a triune God. So, my question here is: How much does this matter, in your view, when it comes to salvation? I have heard some who claim to know that you cannot be a Christian if you cannot accept this revelation/doctrine/attitude. I don't want to cause divisions amongst those earnestly seeking the truth by creating a debate on the matter if it is considered irrelevant. I can offer my own observations in relation to scriptural text to defend my viewpoint. I see from your comment that you don't like using the word trinity and prefer trinity formula. Are you seeking to introduce a third view? I hate all this divisive ideology and find it deflating. The father of the lie can work in mysterious ways to keep us off that narrow path methinks! All very best wishes to you and all viewers to this video!
Awesome work 👏 👌 👍 🙌
Thank you so much 😀
I know Eric Wilson’s standpoint on that and checked with some Greek scholars. There is simply no scientifical argument besides the (later! 5th century) Aramaic Peshitta and Eusebius (who had an anti trinitarian agenda) to put in doubt Matthew 28,19. Here like in other points Eric Wilson practices eisegesis: every argument to attack the divinity of the Lord is good. - Thanks for the video
Yoh are welcome 😊
To be honest, i dont like using the word trinity, and i dont need to apply it in my worship. I used the word trinity formula to encapsulate father, son and holy spirity as un-creaated and co eterrnal, seperate to creation
Pour une fois je suis d'accord avec Eric Wilson je ne crois pas du tout a la Trinité,la Bible ne parle pas de la Trinité,
My problem with the Trinity is that if Jesus is Yahweh; and the Father is Yahweh and they are both of the same substance and share the same divinity, then how can one of them (Jesus) be a mediator? How can you be a mediator for yourself? How can Jesus be a mediator between men and Yahweh, and at the same time BE Yahweh?
Just as Moses was a mediator between Yahweh and the sons of Israel; the mediator of the New covenant can not share the SAME divinity as the father.
Semplicemente perché il Padre non è YHWH,ma semplicemente Padre come lo chiamava Cristo Gesù nostro Signore.YHWH è solo il Figlio,il nostro Signore Gesù Cristo ecco perché Lui è il mediatore fra il Dio Padre e gli uomini.
Thank you, just the fact that Jesus and the holy spirit are not created but have always co existed with God from the same essence and nature proves the divinity of Jesus and the holy spirit. To be honest, I dont need to use the actual word trinity in my personal relationship with God. But I only use the word to encapsulate the status of God. 😊
@@rosannadiluglio8519thank you
I have a question. Who spoke to moses at the burning bush?
Nel roveto fu YHWH il Figlio di Dio, perché il Padre nessuno mai l'ha visto e nessuno ha mai udito la sua voce Giov.5:37@@karen1saunders
God is a spirit and we worship in spirit and truth. When Jesus was baptized God's spirit fully manifested into him. At Pentecost God's spirit was put into each disciple. As Acts 2:38 says if we Repent, are baptized in Jesus name for remission of sins, we will be filled with God's holy spirit. Jesus stated that he and the father are one which does not mean he is God or that he is a trinity of God's. God's spirit is in Jesus and he speaks as God because God's word is in him. Thomas recognised that Jesus is lord and the holy spirit in him is God. Jesus never said he was God. He is the son of man and son of God. We kneel to our king and we worship the holy spirit (God) who is in Jesus. What Thomas did was completely appropriate. The trinity is a false doctrine that has been perpetrated on the masses by Babylonian/Catholic doctrine. Praise and glory to the holy father who gives us truth by his word and through his spirit. Praise to the lord Jesus who is the only door by which we are saved because he sent the helper (holy spirit) ten days after his ascension from his father through him. This is why Jesus was given all authority in heaven and earth and says that the angels worship him. Matt 28:18 Peace and blessings to you.
Thank you
To be honest, i dont like using the word trinity, and i dont need to applybit in my worship. I used the word trinity formula to encapsulate father, son and holy spirity as un-creaated and co eterrnal, seperate to creation
I meant to ask Have you read the peshitta? Jesus as a human was not equal to God but phil 2:6 explains things "6Though he was God,a
he did not think of equality with God
as something to cling to.
7Instead, he gave up his divine privilegesb;
he took the humble position of a slavec
and was born as a human being.
When he appeared in human form,d
8he humbled himself in obedience to God
and died a criminal’s death on a cross"
Jesus said he is I AM
@karen1saunders is John 8:54-58 a conversation about the identity of Jesus or his age. Please read this passage with the correct Grammar.
I look forward hearing from you soon.
Nice Video
its disputed scripture better ask God in prayer
I have done. I have asked the father to help me on the right track in understanding the Scriptures. If it's an undisputed Scripture, where or who has disputed it thanks ?
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