@@LXT43 they lose reputation because of things like, sorry, its impossible to transfer you to a supervisor. Not standing behind a product says a lot about that product. They expect failures.500 knives get thrown, 1 bends and morons like you says it bent because it was thrown. I guess the rest were made of different stuff
Where is this RR policy, how do you activate it...I reached out to seller and they sent me to a WordPress contact form on the RR site...nothing heard back.
Cold Steel would not have been a successful company if they started out with their _current_ standard of quality & customer service. They have definitely got worse. They used to be one of the best.
It’s so sad. I had been a Cold Steel customer since 2004. In the past two years I’ve noticed a serious decline in their products and their customer support. The worse was when I had to wait an entire month to get a new extendable baton. They made me wait 2 weeks to report it lost even though the tracking said it was still waiting in their factory. And when I finally asked for my money back, they magically found it somewhere in shipping 🤦♂️
I had the Kobun and Recon Tanto all through my time as a pre and post 9/11 Marine, both Carbon V. I’ve only had a small push dagger since and tossed it after the sheath kept failing. They’re junk and Tops has been my go to company since.
@@donjuanmckenzie4897 Joe isn't a knife guy. He simply tries to break knives, then foolish followers believe the crap they see. Tops has the single best differential heat treat in the business. Their knives will last 100 lifetimes if used as knives. If someone smashed an infants head with a mallet, people like you would say, that guy only has stupid kids.
To any newer knife guys: if it looks like a gas station knife, it is. Price doesn’t matter. Knives are tools buy the tool you need in the price you want.
Ever since they sold out to GSN, I just gave up on them. I already had everything I would ever want out of the company. Considering that Andrew Demko created almost all of the knives that I had from Cold Steel, he is my new go to for new knives. Really can't wait for him to start shipping out his new AD10 with the enhanced Triad Lock.
Dude, if they are that bad, how did you come about buying three of their knives ? After the first knife failed, I would not take another chance on them.
Because cold steel used to have a stellar reputation on all fronts. Indestructible knives, great prices, great customer service. They spent decades earning the benefit of the doubt. They always pulled through and made it right, quickly.
Their swords surprised me. I had the 1830 Napoleon sword and was gently testing its cutting capability on those bow and arrow targets the foam kind and the blade broke in half as soon as I did that! The sharp part of the sword that broke nearly hit me!
They bought out SOG but it seems they must be using a different Taiwanese OEM as their quality has gone up. I recently got a chance to mess with a Terminus XR (one of the newer ones after they changed the pocket clip), Vision XR, and their altair XR (their bugout competitor) - they were very impressive. Their assisted knives are all crap though, but that’s been the case for years.
Oh man Donnie I am sorry to hear that you are having problems with the Cold Steel knife company. So far, the Cold Steel knives that my dad bought are holding up pretty good. One of my "I wish I had knives" was the Natchez bowie, but I am afraid of purchasing one of them now. If it breaks, they probably wouldn't replace it. Thanks for letting not only me but the rest of us knife guys know.
This really sucks. I've been holding off buying new CS knives for a while now since LT sold off the company. Not because I'm so smart, but because their pricing of their new big blades went through the roof. The Mayhem being one of them, not to mention the Jimi Slash Competition Chopper. I don't know who they are trying to appeal to, but it's definitely not their base.
Their prices on the knives I like sure did go thru the roof! That's when I backed off of them... And prices are one thing IF THE QUALITY AND SERVICE had remained good- but alas they haven't. I can't help but think that this review by DBAD is gonna hurt them cash flow-wise!
This is a crying shame. I have been a fanboy since the 80's. You were generous to even give them a 2nd chance. Can't say I would buy from them again after hearing this.
I do like the knives that I have from Cold Steel ... but I have heard multiple complaints about their CS. Thanks for the share of your experiences, DBAD. There is NO EXCUSE for poor/no heat treatment of the steel.
Sad. I remember when Cold Steel used to be the real deal. They offered big outrageous looking folders that stood up to abuse. Wish I’d have pulled the trigger on a Spartan and Gladius machete before Lynn sold the company
I tried to order a "securex" replacement sheath for an older carbon v srk and got ignored. Nice service huh? Been hearing a lot of bad reviews of late. One guy broke a brand new Republic fixed blade and they refused to honor the warranty
I've been a CRKT fan for awhile. My brother liked Coldsteel. He never used his knife for anything but opening candy wrappers. He's a snowflake. My CRKT is at the bottom of a river because it came undone after I jumped from a bridge. He still has his Coldsteal Recon first edition but it's broke for whatever reason I can't explain and neither can he. It was junk, plain and simple. I bought another CRKT M16 and I still have it 25 years later.
We all knew this was going to happen after the company sold. Lynn should have saved face by abandoning the company all together instead of sticking around to help the new owners sell products with his presence.
Im just curious is that knife meant for throwing some of these high end knives only have certain applications they can be effectively used for im not saying ur wrong i was just wondering myself
I'm definitely hearing you on the customer service. I ordered one of the limited edition titanium Ad10's from the Cold Steel website over two and a half weeks ago. It was in stock when I ordered it, and they took the payment from my bank account. Well, a week went by, and there was no update on shipping. So I called customer service and was told that they would have to get answers from higher management, and placed on hold. When she returned she said that no one was available and someone would contact me later that evening. Never happened. So I called again a couple days later. I was told that they were out of stock and would get more middle of July and someone would contact me to see if I wanted to wait or get a refund. Again no reply. I finally called back again today to confirm the date and was now told it would now be July 30. And from now on if I want to place an order to call them to confirm its in stock before I purchase it. I'm not going to say that I won't purchase another Cold Steel. But I guarantee it won't be from their site.
I think I have 40 Cold Steel knives, the first bought in 1987. I’ve contacted their customer service three times, the first to get a new pocket clip 5 years ago which was no problem, but the last two times to the new company and they were useless. Every one of the old knives came like razors, except two in the last year were like butter knives they were so dull. How disappointing. They should have outright replaced any knife with such a crappy heat treat that the blade bends. This is becoming more and more common as giant companies buy up existing companies then water down their quality and warranties.
Had a friend buy a cold steel knife for a camping trip he was going on . I don’t remember what he said he bought but on the first day there he was going to shave some small pieces of wood for kindling and his blade Broke right at the handle
Word gets out quick!!! They will definitely lose business over their CS BS!! Hate that happened to ya..Know you really liked the design!!! Positive side is you saved alot of people money!!! 👊🏻
I threw my laptop at a stump and it broke! Mac sucks man! What if this was the zombie apocalypse bro! My lap top needs to be able to pry open a car door or pound nails or chop wood! Why dont you just buy a crow bar and sharpen one end. Stop abusing knives then expecting these companies to eat the cost of replacement.
Did you cry like a sissy when Lynn was stabbing car hoods to show us how his knives could stand up to anything or did you simply drop to your knees to please him?
It probably doesn't apply, but my favorite line from "Van Halen" is, "The only thing that stays the same, is CHANGE"! I'm 74 & I'm ashamed to admit how many models of the original "Cold Steel" cutlery & other "Special Projects" items I own & have never had a problem with any of them. Lucky me!!! Wait, I've got another one, "It's an ever changing World in which we're living"!!!
That's a real shame about Cold Steel. With all of the experiences you've had recently there's no doubt that big problems exist there now. There was a time when they had excellent customer service and fantastic quality, but it seems that time has passed. I bought a Cold steel 4'' Voyager around 1995 - 1998. I carried it a couple of years and snagged the plastic pocket clip (before they were steel) on a pallet at work while inspecting product and broke it. I called Cold Steel the following day to see if they could send me a new handle and they said send the knife back to us. I said just bill me and whatever the cost I'll pay for it. I had skinned game, filleted fish, and done camp duties with it and it became my go to knife. 2 weeks later a brand-new Voyager arrived with the then new, steel pocket clip and a note stating no charge and the steel pocket clip should be far more durable. I wish that type of service was still available from them.
I had a similar issue when I purchased a Set of XL Talwars when GSM, Cold Steel, first brought them back. They would go into, what I call, Fixed Blade Mode. It was almost impossible to unlock the Blade when opened. GSM, Cold Steel wouldn't let me send them in for repair or replacement. This was a Factory Defect. They should of handled it. I ended up figuring out how to fix them, after giving up on GSM, Cold Steel's Customer Service. The problem was the Stop Pin. It was too small. It was 5.97mm thick and needed to be 6.22mm thick. I swapped the Stop Pin from one of my Original AUS-8A Talwar's; it had the 6.22mm thick Stop Pin in it... So, they didn't make them exactly like the Original XL Talwar. The way GSM, Cold Steel's, New Customer Service treated me, well, it turned me off. The Original Cold Steel Customer Service in Ventura, CA always took care of any problems I had. Their Customer Service used to be Top-Notch. GSM, needs to back their Products. My experience turned me off and I started trying other products from other Companies. Sorry to hear about what happened to you, Bro. :-( Myself, I still like to use and carry my Cold Steel Blades. But, I don't have a lot of luv for their Customer Service. I hope my Mayhems are okay. I modded one and use it. When I recieved my first one, I noticed that it didn't have a reinforced Blade Tip and that the tip looked fragile to me. So, I don't stress the Blade Tip. Also, the one I modded wasn't a easy one to polish. So, I know it was heat treated... The Steel is hard. And, m8ne is holding it's edge and is razor sharp. Like you, I think the design of this one is a lot of fun. I have three Mayhems, the Limited and two AUS-10A Models. I absolutely luv mine. It's like a Pirate's Pocket Knife... :-) I bought my AUS-10A Mayhems from MidwayUSA.com; they were only $135 a piece. The Mayhem is a very Heavy Folder with a weak, unreinforced Blade Tip, that's why I think yours bent. Actually, I am sort of surprised it didn't snap the tip of the Blade off... A Blade Tip, like what's on the Mayhem, can not handle lateral stress. It would be stronger vertically. That's why I always pay attention to how the Blade is ground. Not all Knives are made to withstand throwing. Especially, heavy Knives without reinforced Blade Tips. But, regardless, GSM, Cold Steel needs to back their products, especially, against Factory Defects. :-( Peace, Stiletto :-)
@@DonnieBAllDay I totally believe you Bro! The Kudu doesn't weigh anything so it would most likely not stress out the Blade Tip... I know Japanese AUS-10A Stainless Steel is more brittle than Japanese AUS-8A Stainless Steel. That's the reason why it holds a better edge than Japanese AUS-10A Stainless Steel. Myself, if I would've designed the Mayhem, I would've given it a reinforced Blade Tip like Cold Steel used to always do... And, I would've used CPM-3V for one of it's Blade Steel options. Japanese AUS-10A can be brittle like Japanese VG-10 Stainless Steel. That's why I find it kind of surprising that your Tip bent and you were able to almost bend it back without snapping the Blade Tip... Perhaps, yours wasn't correctly tempered... When Joe X did a destruction Video on th e Mayhem, his Japanese AUS-10A Mayhem snapped the Tip and Blade Edge and finally the Blade. It looked like it was too highly tempered to the point of brittleness... The part I liked in his Video was how well the Atlas-Lock held up. That's what made me want the Mayhem! I still absolutely luv my Mayhem. I just won't be abusive with the Blade Tip. It is one very fun Blade to own! :-) The Mayhem, in my opinion, is a very Intimidating and Sinister and Sexy looking Folder; I absolutely luv it! But, it's not a Woodcrafter or Camp Folder or Survival Folder or Utility Folder, no, to me; it's a Folding Fighter! :-) For that, the Mayhem is a Beast, even with an "Unreinforced" Blade Tip. GSM, Cold Steel, should redesign the Blade Tip and make it strong enough to handle the weight of the Mayhem, if thrown or stabbed into something hard... Personally, I hope Cold Steel makes more, lighter, Atlas-Lock, Mega Folders. Right on, Bro! Keep up the great Videos you make. I always enjoy watching your Videos. I, too, was very upset with GSM Customer Service. I made several Videos on my funky experience with GSM Customer Service. I still buy and use Cold Steel Knives. But, I do so cautiously. And, I never expect GSM to be a "Good" Customer Service. To me, the quality is about the same. And, some of the New GSM, Cold Steel Knives have been better functioning than the Old Models, that's been my experience. But, it's so sad what GSM did to the Cold Steel Customer Service... I feel your pain Brother! :-) Peace, Stiletto :-)
The warranty clearly states: Don't be a "Donnie B". Donnie B will not be honored, we've seen his videos. 😂 Seriously, this is sad news as I have a large Cold Steel Collection. I just purchased another "Black Bear Classic" from them. That's an expensive knife. I won't be spending my money with Cold Steel any longer, after seeing this. There are plenty of really great knife brands that are no risk. Heck, even Rough Rider honors their knives.
When I first got a Natchez Bowie many years before CS was bought by GSM it came with the tip folded back on itself 180 degrees. Sent it back and they sent me a new one. Years later I bought a 1917 Bowie and it came dull. But all my other CS knives have been good.
If you sent it back they could look at it and might be able to figure out what went wrong. Surely it is in their own interest to replace it and examine the faulty knife.
The guy above said it best. Decades to build a reputation and seconds to wreck it!!! The only knife company I would 75% trust is ESEE. The reason I say 75 percent is because of folders and knives they sub out.
Thanks Donnie ! I didn’t even know that grown men actually bought Cold Steel knives. I bought my first CS when I was 15 and my second and last one when I was 17.
That's terrible DBAD...I've been collecting them for about 14 months and I have a little over a hundred of them...Some from before the buyout, most from after, but I haven't had any problems yet...which is no doubt why I haven't experienced what you've been going through...I hope CS pulls their head out and treats you right!
I've heard of knife makers having trouble with heat treats. Usually they come out a few numbers lower in the hardness, not completely soft and unusable. This is ridiculous. I'll get that Microtech Ultratech then. I was looking at a couple of the large Cold Steel folders with the tri-ad lock. Nope.
This is why I go through Amazon when it comes to buying cold steel. At least through Amazon theres a a slightly better chance at getting your money back. I had my issues with cold steel hatchet right before Lynn sold the company. Had even more issues since GSM took over. Quality Control is trash.
Holy crap, thanks for the PSA! I have owned several Cold Steel knives over the last 25 years and bought them as presents/recommended them to others. Not anymore tough, at least not until CS gets their sh*t together as a knife-making company! For funzies, where is this $380 knife made? China?
@@DonnieBAllDay That's the last nail in the Cold Steel coffin for me. I still have a Cold Steel Kobun that was made in Japan and cost like $40, from the late 1990's. Awesome quality on those old CS knives. Thank you again for the heads up!
Its getting to the point where you are paying for a name. I have several "cheap" knives that out perform the expensive ones. But in the knife community its not fashionable to be carrying a cheap blade. I will take that Harbor Freight any day.
I dont see how so many people are having problems with their cold steel knives, but then again all my cold steel were bought before the "walmart sellout" when glenn was running the show, so i know those are quality, i cant defend the current cold steel market as i havent purchased a new cold steel in several years, but my recon tanto (SK-5 model) has been an absolute beast and is still one of my favorite blades to this day, all i can say is whenever a company decides to put their procuct in walmart, its basically the death of quality assurance and customer care, which is sad because id LOVE to get my hands on cold steels warcraft tanto (cmp 3v)
@@DonnieBAllDay ooh tell me about it, other then needed a good sharpening, and the anti glare coating completely gone, its in perfect shape still lol i mostly carry a mini tac tanto now a days, or one of my Khan folders
A better way to straighten a bent knife is to put it in a bench vise with two screwdrivers on one side and one screwdriver on the other. In this way you can bend the knife anywhere along the blade by repositioning the screwdrivers.
Thank you for sharing this about CS. I've been looking at a few of their knives recently, but after seeing this, I'm out. For that kind of money and crapoy customer service. Hell no.
Thanks for the warning. I too, was lusting for the Mayhem & probably would have gotten one someday. Think I'll stick with Spartan Blades & Topps Knives as they have never let me down.
I stopped buying Cold steel when my brand new Cold steel neck knife was lost because it would not stay in its sheath. I just refuse to waste my time and money on a poor brand. Cold steel over priced Junk knives.
I have an O1 trailmaster that ive used as my main knife for years and the hand guard got loose on it, so i reached out to the company and asked if there was any way to repair it and i got absolutely nothing back. Also i bought the 1917 bowie is a replacement and it came duller than a butter knife. RIP coldsteel
So freaking true thank you my brother they used to be a good knife but production now is garbage I will never waste a cent on any cold steel products a company that can't stand behind it's own product isn't worth our hard earned cash ,
Fortunately the only Cold Steel Product I own Is the .625 Big Bore Pro, a chunk of aluminium. Barely anything to mess up there. And I bought it long ago, so there's that
Wow, I guess I'll forget about buying any stuff from Cold Steal! I have a Voyager that is kind of nice looking, but it's too stiff to flip open reliably right now.
The "s" curve on the tip of your folder shows up best when the reflection from the light hits the side of the blade. You can really see how bad it bent on you. Am sorry to hear about the lack of heat treating and especially the lack 9f cooperation from customer service. Have been a fan of Cold Steel for years, but haven't bought anything from them since a "cutting sword" from them. The entire blade is rippled from not being worked correctly. I would've sent it back except I bought it from another company that handles Cold Steel products and sells them cheaper.
3 months ago I spent just shy of $1000 on 3 cold steel knives in 1 single order on amazon. Needless to say all 3 knives got returned. Shitty grind lines on there cpm3v trailmaster, natchez bowie and their san mai trailmaster isn't made in Japan anymore. I called up COLD STEEL and complained. I'm only buying $100 and under price knives from Cold Steel from now on. On a side note I do have a PERFECT CPM3V LAREDO BOWIE. So it's hit or miss.
I've always been a fan of Cold Steel, but I'm old enough to know I can get a lemon no matter the brand:) However, all that aside, they should indeed replace it man that sucks!
I would say.. Carefully hammer out the tip straight. I had to do that with both my Bark River Edwin Forest bowies due to the tips coming through the box during shipping and getting bent. The tip on those is so pointy it can so easily happen. But, you have to go slow, and go easy when hammering out the tip lest you break it or weaken the steel. You could even fire harden the tip carefully as well with a torch.
We know you love the Espada xl as a fixed blade,believe me so do I. A few years ago you replied to a comment I made saying you wanted me to write your epitaph. Your a talented guy and I'm a fan , I've seen your slip though and I thought it may be useful if I showed you how.
I’ve ordered 2 frontier bowies,Wild West Bowie,riflemans Bowie,code 4 tanto,and a Kyoto tanto from cold steel. Some of the edges were uneven,there were some flaws but overall they are well made knives. 🔪 I’m sure that when GSM took ownership they planned to cut quality and go for quantity since it will make them money. Lynn Thompson doesn’t care how it’s run anymore since he sold it. I’m going to order several more Coldsteel knives and that will be all for me. There are other companies out there that have far superior products but the price is also much greater. Also knives,swords and other cutlery has taken a massive decline because of firearms so they are only used occasionally. Now people can’t justify spending $100 or more on a blade unless it’s for their job.
My last 2 CS were dull as fuck. I mean it took me 5 mins to sharpen but.. Fart! Also broke 2 of my Sure flight sports knives in half. If only TOPS made some of the ColdSteel models we'd be in business
Love my Tops blades, I've never had issues with their heat treat. I always reprofile them, though, cause they are a bit too thick for woodwork. That's how I know the steel is good , I freaking love my Tanimboca Puukko , keeps a wicked edge .
My xl voyager bent chopping a .5” birch branch. Also, a handle partially broke off of my magnun kukri machete while chopping… they wanted me to send it in, but shipping would cost nearly what I paid for it. I just wrapped the broken part with duct tape…
@@DonnieBAllDay I bent the folder back…. But the handle breaking apart in my hand…. I wasn’t too happy about. Their hawks are great for throwing…. Atleast their machete aren’t crazy expensive…. A $400 knife should not be bending though….. are you close to anybody that has one of the machines that tests the rockwell ?
I am not happy with their s35vn. I do like my older cold steel throwers. I wouldn't buy another folder from them. The reason I got my last one(tiger claw folding karambit) was because Andrew Demko supposedly worked on the knife design and the triad lock.
it takes years and years to build your reputation and only 5 seconds to lose it.
@@CalvinMorris-cf8jk facts
How do they loose reputation because some idiot threw their folding knife into a tree and the tip bend. Try harder DonnieB fanboy.
@@LXT43 kiss my butt CUPCAKE and go play with your junk knives don't hurt yourself man.
@@LXT43 they gained popularity from some round guy showing you they can stab through car hoods
@@LXT43 they lose reputation because of things like, sorry, its impossible to transfer you to a supervisor. Not standing behind a product says a lot about that product. They expect failures.500 knives get thrown, 1 bends and morons like you says it bent because it was thrown. I guess the rest were made of different stuff
Even Chinese made Rough Rider has a no questions asked return policy. Cold Sterl needs to step up.
@@deniskozlowski9370 imagine that
They need to change their name- or maybe WE should change it for them- from "Cold Steel" to- "cold stool".. 🤣
@@DonnieBAllDay
My 15 year old ti lite is great ....
Rough riders rock
Where is this RR policy, how do you activate it...I reached out to seller and they sent me to a WordPress contact form on the RR site...nothing heard back.
Company trend
-Lets get rich by making a great product.
Later
-Lets get richer by cuttering corners but charge the same.
Down fall 👎
Part of it was the selling of Cold Steel to GSM Outdoors. They also bought SOG Knives.
@@stonefox9124 sadder, they made them worse and raised the prices
@@MetalMelee the buyout doesn't matter if the company backs the product
That is almost every single company. I've only come across a handful who've gotten better as their reputation grew.
GSM is garbage,no Lynn-no quality control.
@@igoryurkin9038 I had some poor quality then too, but worse now
Old ones was much better. Got only one shit quality back then and it was recon tanto, blade was super soft.
Cold Steel would not have been a successful company if they started out with their _current_ standard of quality & customer service.
They have definitely got worse.
They used to be one of the best.
Same factory, specs and build but no QC from GSM. @@adamkane7513
It’s so sad. I had been a Cold Steel customer since 2004. In the past two years I’ve noticed a serious decline in their products and their customer support. The worse was when I had to wait an entire month to get a new extendable baton. They made me wait 2 weeks to report it lost even though the tracking said it was still waiting in their factory. And when I finally asked for my money back, they magically found it somewhere in shipping 🤦♂️
@@mrblaque215 imagine that
That is SO disapointing. They shoot themselves in the foot with that foolish attitude.
@@tonnywildweasel8138 100%
If your wanting to verify those heat treat concerns ...send em to your boy. I'll test em for free. 😎
I think I'm going to put it in my forge
@@DonnieBAllDay okay, but offer stands. I have a rockwell tester. You could put it in the forge afterwards lol.
@DonnieBAllDay you should get it tested though because if Cold Steel has a manufacturing problem with heat treating it should be known
@@donjuanmckenzie4897 I already sent it to him
when i found out he sold the company i bought all my favorite CS knives cuz i knew the company would go to shit and for the most part it has :(
@@RHACOREBERS down the drain
To tell the truth, I have noticed the quality of Cold Steel going down every since they discontinued the "Carbon V5" steel.
@@ragin2490 fact
My only Cold Steel is a gen1 SRK. That is a decent knife. Since then: No thanks, i have enough garbage in the bin already!
I had the Kobun and Recon Tanto all through my time as a pre and post 9/11 Marine, both Carbon V. I’ve only had a small push dagger since and tossed it after the sheath kept failing. They’re junk and Tops has been my go to company since.
@Teufel_Resen lolololol Tops??? One of the worst companies around. Every Tops knife has failed spectacularly on JoeX's channel
@@donjuanmckenzie4897 Joe isn't a knife guy. He simply tries to break knives, then foolish followers believe the crap they see. Tops has the single best differential heat treat in the business. Their knives will last 100 lifetimes if used as knives. If someone smashed an infants head with a mallet, people like you would say, that guy only has stupid kids.
This happens when the 'Bean Counters' take over.
facts
To any newer knife guys: if it looks like a gas station knife, it is.
Price doesn’t matter.
Knives are tools buy the tool you need in the price you want.
I brought the XL Espada to Afghanistan. Used it and it was good. This was not
@@DonnieBAllDay I carried a proguard that I got at a going-out-of-business sale on my plate carrier. They used to make great stuff.
Ever since they sold out to GSN, I just gave up on them. I already had everything I would ever want out of the company. Considering that Andrew Demko created almost all of the knives that I had from Cold Steel, he is my new go to for new knives. Really can't wait for him to start shipping out his new AD10 with the enhanced Triad Lock.
@@danzigrulze5211 Demko is awesome
me too
Damn
They really went downhill
@@jnzupka yup
@@DonnieBAllDay it sucks because I had some good experiences with their customer service a couple of years ago
Dude, if they are that bad, how did you come about buying three of their knives ? After the first knife failed, I would not take another chance on them.
Because cold steel used to have a stellar reputation on all fronts. Indestructible knives, great prices, great customer service. They spent decades earning the benefit of the doubt. They always pulled through and made it right, quickly.
@@eatonknass247 O.K. I guess legacy does deserve a second chance. But only one Mulligan.
I get paid to review knives. Not just some knives
Their swords surprised me. I had the 1830 Napoleon sword and was gently testing its cutting capability on those bow and arrow targets the foam kind and the blade broke in half as soon as I did that! The sharp part of the sword that broke nearly hit me!
Wow! THats nuts
glad you finally did a video on it! Hopefully someone there sees it.
@@pistolpete4991 they dont care
Public announcement, gsm also owns SOG knives.. soon both sog and cold steel will be synonymous with Smith & Weston...
@@meanwileinthedesert..2320 Smith at least shoots straight
lol
Exactly
They bought out SOG but it seems they must be using a different Taiwanese OEM as their quality has gone up. I recently got a chance to mess with a Terminus XR (one of the newer ones after they changed the pocket clip), Vision XR, and their altair XR (their bugout competitor) - they were very impressive.
Their assisted knives are all crap though, but that’s been the case for years.
@@just9911 I got a good SOG recently. The good folder with micarts scales. I hate the feel of the GRN
Sad to see how some companies refuse to update their service or quality, and fall so easily off because costumers talk today on the internet.
@@Man_Ray78 fact
Oh man Donnie I am sorry to hear that you are having problems with the Cold Steel knife company. So far, the Cold Steel knives that my dad bought are holding up pretty good. One of my "I wish I had knives" was the Natchez bowie, but I am afraid of purchasing one of them now. If it breaks, they probably wouldn't replace it. Thanks for letting not only me but the rest of us knife guys know.
@@TinmansCorner the Natchez has been a problem with them
@@DonnieBAllDay It's really that bad, well I might as well not get one now. Imagine if there walking sticks are bad as well.
This really sucks. I've been holding off buying new CS knives for a while now since LT sold off the company. Not because I'm so smart, but because their pricing of their new big blades went through the roof. The Mayhem being one of them, not to mention the Jimi Slash Competition Chopper. I don't know who they are trying to appeal to, but it's definitely not their base.
@@onesky8647 exactly!
Their prices on the knives I like sure did go thru the roof! That's when I backed off of them... And prices are one thing IF THE QUALITY AND SERVICE had remained good- but alas they haven't. I can't help but think that this review by DBAD is gonna hurt them cash flow-wise!
@@ronalddunne3413 lessons learned
This is a crying shame. I have been a fanboy since the 80's. You were generous to even give them a 2nd chance. Can't say I would buy from them again after hearing this.
downhill fast
I do like the knives that I have from Cold Steel ... but I have heard multiple complaints about their CS. Thanks for the share of your experiences, DBAD. There is NO EXCUSE for poor/no heat treatment of the steel.
@@byronkennedy7912 exactly
Sad. I remember when Cold Steel used to be the real deal. They offered big outrageous looking folders that stood up to abuse. Wish I’d have pulled the trigger on a Spartan and Gladius machete before Lynn sold the company
what was will never be
Folding knives are already broken! Fine for opening cute little Amazon packages. 😂😂😂
Hahaha!
I tried to order a "securex" replacement sheath for an older carbon v srk and got ignored. Nice service huh? Been hearing a lot of bad reviews of late. One guy broke a brand new Republic fixed blade and they refused to honor the warranty
@@larryroberts3598 they're terrible
So where to go now for outrageously large wall ornaments?
@@monomarino5349 haha! Good question
Midgard messer
I've been a CRKT fan for awhile. My brother liked Coldsteel. He never used his knife for anything but opening candy wrappers. He's a snowflake. My CRKT is at the bottom of a river because it came undone after I jumped from a bridge. He still has his Coldsteal Recon first edition but it's broke for whatever reason I can't explain and neither can he. It was junk, plain and simple. I bought another CRKT M16 and I still have it 25 years later.
I've had good success with CRKT
Never abuse your Tools! 😂
If they can start making them as good as Harbor Freight....
The tip on my SRK broke without any abuse. It's actually the only knife that failed on me, ever.
@@petrepompiliu2408 wow! Those are usually pretty good
After listening to this I am never buying another Cold Steel product.
@@bruceruzicka6089 its sad. Older used ones are good
What steel is that on that mayhem?
AUS8A I believe
We all knew this was going to happen after the company sold.
Lynn should have saved face by abandoning the company all together instead of sticking around to help the new owners sell products with his presence.
facts
Im just curious is that knife meant for throwing some of these high end knives only have certain applications they can be effectively used for im not saying ur wrong i was just wondering myself
90% of the knives I throw aren't made for throwing. This is the one that bent
I was never interested in the Mayhem design, but it is still disappointing to hear that GSM is making things worse. They also own SOG knives.
@@omarcorrea1996 ruining one company at a time
I'm definitely hearing you on the customer service. I ordered one of the limited edition titanium Ad10's from the Cold Steel website over two and a half weeks ago. It was in stock when I ordered it, and they took the payment from my bank account. Well, a week went by, and there was no update on shipping. So I called customer service and was told that they would have to get answers from higher management, and placed on hold. When she returned she said that no one was available and someone would contact me later that evening. Never happened. So I called again a couple days later. I was told that they were out of stock and would get more middle of July and someone would contact me to see if I wanted to wait or get a refund. Again no reply. I finally called back again today to confirm the date and was now told it would now be July 30. And from now on if I want to place an order to call them to confirm its in stock before I purchase it. I'm not going to say that I won't purchase another Cold Steel. But I guarantee it won't be from their site.
Thats exactly them
I've been done with them since they switched out the 01 tool steel for 4034 budget steel and put a premium sticker on it.
@@jimbusmaximus4624 facts
I think I have 40 Cold Steel knives, the first bought in 1987. I’ve contacted their customer service three times, the first to get a new pocket clip 5 years ago which was no problem, but the last two times to the new company and they were useless. Every one of the old knives came like razors, except two in the last year were like butter knives they were so dull. How disappointing. They should have outright replaced any knife with such a crappy heat treat that the blade bends. This is becoming more and more common as giant companies buy up existing companies then water down their quality and warranties.
100% facts
Had a friend buy a cold steel knife for a camping trip he was going on . I don’t remember what he said he bought but on the first day there he was going to shave some small pieces of wood for kindling and his blade Broke right at the handle
wow!!
Word gets out quick!!! They will definitely lose business over their CS BS!! Hate that happened to ya..Know you really liked the design!!! Positive side is you saved alot of people money!!! 👊🏻
@@David_DY 100%
I threw my laptop at a stump and it broke! Mac sucks man! What if this was the zombie apocalypse bro! My lap top needs to be able to pry open a car door or pound nails or chop wood! Why dont you just buy a crow bar and sharpen one end. Stop abusing knives then expecting these companies to eat the cost of replacement.
Did you cry like a sissy when Lynn was stabbing car hoods to show us how his knives could stand up to anything or did you simply drop to your knees to please him?
I cut down a small tree with one of harbor freight survival knifes
@@davidhelka8929 its crazy good for 10 bucks
It probably doesn't apply, but my favorite line from "Van Halen" is, "The only thing that stays the same, is CHANGE"! I'm 74 & I'm ashamed to admit how many models of the original "Cold Steel" cutlery & other "Special Projects" items I own & have never had a problem with any of them. Lucky me!!! Wait, I've got another one, "It's an ever changing World in which we're living"!!!
@@barrybaldwin5535 makes me give it a cry.... live and let die
If you want Cold Steel, "You've got to bleed for it baby". Ain't talking bout love. 33 different models and still going strong.
i watched the joex video on that knife. let me know what you're selling it for.
I think I'm just going to dismantle it and give it a proper heat treat in my own forge
Damn so you're saying the Bolo Machete I have is garbage from them? I thought it was gonna be good, but I should have known the price was so low.
@@bullridermusic2054 never know. It might be great. Not fun when its a 50/50 chance
That's a real shame about Cold Steel. With all of the experiences you've had recently there's no doubt that big problems exist there now. There was a time when they had excellent customer service and fantastic quality, but it seems that time has passed.
I bought a Cold steel 4'' Voyager around 1995 - 1998. I carried it a couple of years and snagged the plastic pocket clip (before they were steel) on a pallet at work while inspecting product and broke it. I called Cold Steel the following day to see if they could send me a new handle and they said send the knife back to us. I said just bill me and whatever the cost I'll pay for it. I had skinned game, filleted fish, and done camp duties with it and it became my go to knife. 2 weeks later a brand-new Voyager arrived with the then new, steel pocket clip and a note stating no charge and the steel pocket clip should be far more durable. I wish that type of service was still available from them.
we all wish they still had those morals
I had a similar issue when I purchased a Set of XL Talwars when GSM, Cold Steel, first brought them back. They would go into, what I call, Fixed Blade Mode. It was almost impossible to unlock the Blade when opened. GSM, Cold Steel wouldn't let me send them in for repair or replacement. This was a Factory Defect. They should of handled it. I ended up figuring out how to fix them, after giving up on GSM, Cold Steel's Customer Service. The problem was the Stop Pin. It was too small. It was 5.97mm thick and needed to be 6.22mm thick. I swapped the Stop Pin from one of my Original AUS-8A Talwar's; it had the 6.22mm thick Stop Pin in it...
So, they didn't make them exactly like the Original XL Talwar. The way GSM, Cold Steel's, New Customer Service treated me, well, it turned me off. The Original Cold Steel Customer Service in Ventura, CA always took care of any problems I had. Their Customer Service used to be Top-Notch.
GSM, needs to back their Products. My experience turned me off and I started trying other products from other Companies.
Sorry to hear about what happened to you, Bro. :-(
Myself, I still like to use and carry my Cold Steel Blades. But, I don't have a lot of luv for their Customer Service. I hope my Mayhems are okay. I modded one and use it. When I recieved my first one, I noticed that it didn't have a reinforced Blade Tip and that the tip looked fragile to me. So, I don't stress the Blade Tip. Also, the one I modded wasn't a easy one to polish. So, I know it was heat treated... The Steel is hard. And, m8ne is holding it's edge and is razor sharp.
Like you, I think the design of this one is a lot of fun. I have three Mayhems, the Limited and two AUS-10A Models. I absolutely luv mine. It's like a Pirate's Pocket Knife... :-) I bought my AUS-10A Mayhems from MidwayUSA.com; they were only $135 a piece.
The Mayhem is a very Heavy Folder with a weak, unreinforced Blade Tip, that's why I think yours bent. Actually, I am sort of surprised it didn't snap the tip of the Blade off... A Blade Tip, like what's on the Mayhem, can not handle lateral stress. It would be stronger vertically.
That's why I always pay attention to how the Blade is ground. Not all Knives are made to withstand throwing. Especially, heavy Knives without reinforced Blade Tips.
But, regardless, GSM, Cold Steel needs to back their products, especially, against Factory Defects. :-( Peace, Stiletto :-)
I threw that cheap ass Kudu. No bending. Just sad
@@DonnieBAllDay I totally believe you Bro! The Kudu doesn't weigh anything so it would most likely not stress out the Blade Tip... I know Japanese AUS-10A Stainless Steel is more brittle than Japanese AUS-8A Stainless Steel. That's the reason why it holds a better edge than Japanese AUS-10A Stainless Steel. Myself, if I would've designed the Mayhem, I would've given it a reinforced Blade Tip like Cold Steel used to always do... And, I would've used CPM-3V for one of it's Blade Steel options. Japanese AUS-10A can be brittle like Japanese VG-10 Stainless Steel. That's why I find it kind of surprising that your Tip bent and you were able to almost bend it back without snapping the Blade Tip... Perhaps, yours wasn't correctly tempered... When Joe X did a destruction Video on th e Mayhem, his Japanese AUS-10A Mayhem snapped the Tip and Blade Edge and finally the Blade. It looked like it was too highly tempered to the point of brittleness...
The part I liked in his Video was how well the Atlas-Lock held up. That's what made me want the Mayhem! I still absolutely luv my Mayhem. I just won't be abusive with the Blade Tip. It is one very fun Blade to own! :-)
The Mayhem, in my opinion, is a very Intimidating and Sinister and Sexy looking Folder; I absolutely luv it! But, it's not a Woodcrafter or Camp Folder or Survival Folder or Utility Folder, no, to me; it's a Folding Fighter! :-) For that, the Mayhem is a Beast, even with an "Unreinforced" Blade Tip. GSM, Cold Steel, should redesign the Blade Tip and make it strong enough to handle the weight of the Mayhem, if thrown or stabbed into something hard...
Personally, I hope Cold Steel makes more, lighter, Atlas-Lock, Mega Folders. Right on, Bro! Keep up the great Videos you make. I always enjoy watching your Videos.
I, too, was very upset with GSM Customer Service. I made several Videos on my funky experience with GSM Customer Service. I still buy and use Cold Steel Knives. But, I do so cautiously. And, I never expect GSM to be a "Good" Customer Service. To me, the quality is about the same. And, some of the New GSM, Cold Steel Knives have been better functioning than the Old Models, that's been my experience. But, it's so sad what GSM did to the Cold Steel Customer Service... I feel your pain Brother! :-) Peace, Stiletto :-)
The warranty clearly states:
Don't be a "Donnie B".
Donnie B will not be honored, we've seen his videos. 😂
Seriously, this is sad news as I have a large Cold Steel Collection.
I just purchased another "Black Bear Classic" from them. That's an expensive knife.
I won't be spending my money with Cold Steel any longer, after seeing this.
There are plenty of really great knife brands that are no risk.
Heck, even Rough Rider honors their knives.
@@harolddavis4138 oh snap! I didnt read the fine print! Haha
Thats a real bummer because I just got a bunch of Cold Steel Knives
sucks
Only question I have is when didn't cold steel suck because I don't remember?
Im sure there was a time
Really sucks to hear because I have loved Cold Steel in the past.
they were loveable in the past
Thanks for the heads up. I will spend my money on other knife companys. Whats your thoughts on OKC knives?
If OKC knives give him free stuff. He will probably say they are great! 😂💯
OKC made quality blades. FIt and finish is never great, but thy can be hammered on
Thank you Donnie, I was wondering why my srk got chips in the edge from.... Literally nothing. I know to take my money elsewhere now
this is why
When I first got a Natchez Bowie many years before CS was bought by GSM it came with the tip folded back on itself 180 degrees. Sent it back and they sent me a new one. Years later I bought a 1917 Bowie and it came dull. But all my other CS knives have been good.
@@117rebel a lot of soft tips
If you sent it back they could look at it and might be able to figure out what went wrong. Surely it is in their own interest to replace it and examine the faulty knife.
You'd think so. Thats what professionals do. Not them
Unless they already know
It went in the crapper as soon as Lynn sold - why did it take you so long ??
This was my 4th failure. I've talked for a long time about their terrible customer service, but they really went far downhill this time
oh my god, dude... what happened to you - you've lost so much weight
@@cafeqc3793 and Im sure as hell not looking for it
That's a shame! That blade shape on that folder is cool damn shame!
@@coleenmccrory9018 fo sho
The guy above said it best. Decades to build a reputation and seconds to wreck it!!! The only knife company I would 75% trust is ESEE. The reason I say 75 percent is because of folders and knives they sub out.
@@jamesaustin9848 Esee subs out folders, but tbey keep the same no questions asked warranty.
Thanks Donnie !
I didn’t even know that grown men actually bought Cold Steel knives. I bought my first CS when I was 15 and my second and last one when I was 17.
@@cris-tiada the 4max isnt a childs knife
I prefer Buck way more than Cold Steel, the new TRX 110s are frickin amazing.
I agree
@@DonnieBAllDay their no questions warranties rock too,
That's terrible DBAD...I've been collecting them for about 14 months and I have a little over a hundred of them...Some from before the buyout, most from after, but I haven't had any problems yet...which is no doubt why I haven't experienced what you've been going through...I hope CS pulls their head out and treats you right!
How often are you using that many to really get an idea on build quality?
Yo , sorry to hear that!
Congrats on the 100k milestone!
Keep up the great content!
@@SubUrbanOutdoors-no2kp thanks!
I've bought at least 6 or so different weapons from Cold Steel, they've all been awesome so this is heartbreaking to hear.
@@Zach_D i have some CS pieces that are amazing. I wouldnt care if some of the many sucked if theyd just stand behind their product
@@DonnieBAllDay I agree completely.
I've heard of knife makers having trouble with heat treats. Usually they come out a few numbers lower in the hardness, not completely soft and unusable. This is ridiculous.
I'll get that Microtech Ultratech then. I was looking at a couple of the large Cold Steel folders with the tri-ad lock. Nope.
The Ultrateck is fantastic
This is why I go through Amazon when it comes to buying cold steel. At least through Amazon theres a a slightly better chance at getting your money back.
I had my issues with cold steel hatchet right before Lynn sold the company. Had even more issues since GSM took over. Quality Control is trash.
You aren't lying
Holy crap, thanks for the PSA! I have owned several Cold Steel knives over the last 25 years and bought them as presents/recommended them to others. Not anymore tough, at least not until CS gets their sh*t together as a knife-making company! For funzies, where is this $380 knife made? China?
made in China
@@DonnieBAllDay That's the last nail in the Cold Steel coffin for me. I still have a Cold Steel Kobun that was made in Japan and cost like $40, from the late 1990's. Awesome quality on those old CS knives. Thank you again for the heads up!
@@SevenSixTwo2012 that Japanese Kobun is a keeper
I gave up on Cold steel when they sold to GSM. Will never buy another
@@hillbillyfromtheswamp6223 Im with you
But wich knife company would still be the best atm then if it goes about quality controle and service? @@DonnieBAllDay
When they say Cold steel they mean its made of ''cold ''steel ,LOL
@@survivalcommando hahahaha
Its getting to the point where you are paying for a name. I have several "cheap" knives that out perform the expensive ones. But in the knife community its not fashionable to be carrying a cheap blade. I will take that Harbor Freight any day.
facts!
The factory in Taiwan is the same, good qualiry in my limited experience. No customer service now.
@@radusnyder4341 fact
I dont see how so many people are having problems with their cold steel knives, but then again all my cold steel were bought before the "walmart sellout" when glenn was running the show, so i know those are quality, i cant defend the current cold steel market as i havent purchased a new cold steel in several years, but my recon tanto (SK-5 model) has been an absolute beast and is still one of my favorite blades to this day, all i can say is whenever a company decides to put their procuct in walmart, its basically the death of quality assurance and customer care, which is sad because id LOVE to get my hands on cold steels warcraft tanto (cmp 3v)
those sk5 models rocked
@@DonnieBAllDay ooh tell me about it, other then needed a good sharpening, and the anti glare coating completely gone, its in perfect shape still lol i mostly carry a mini tac tanto now a days, or one of my Khan folders
A better way to straighten a bent knife is to put it in a bench vise with two screwdrivers on one side and one screwdriver on the other. In this way you can bend the knife anywhere along the blade by repositioning the screwdrivers.
@@3vil3lvis still would need a new heat treat. I was just hoping theyd honor their product... nope
@@DonnieBAllDay Fun Fact: This straightening trick was from a video in which the blade warped during heat treatment.
I think there next claim will be that you miss used the knife because it's not a throwing knife lol they have us customers jumping through hoops
Right. THey give a whole list of what they consider abuse. Everything except opening packages.
Man. I wanted this knife bad but for some reason my gut told me no...
@@stonefox9124 smart gut
Thank you for sharing this about CS.
I've been looking at a few of their knives recently, but after seeing this, I'm out. For that kind of money and crapoy customer service. Hell no.
its sad
Companies do some stupid shit
facts
Thanks for the warning. I too, was lusting for the Mayhem & probably would have gotten one someday. Think I'll stick with Spartan Blades & Topps Knives as they have never let me down.
smart
I stopped buying Cold steel when my brand new Cold steel neck knife was lost because it would not stay in its sheath. I just refuse to waste my time and money on a poor brand. Cold steel over priced Junk knives.
the older ones only
I have an O1 trailmaster that ive used as my main knife for years and the hand guard got loose on it, so i reached out to the company and asked if there was any way to repair it and i got absolutely nothing back. Also i bought the 1917 bowie is a replacement and it came duller than a butter knife. RIP coldsteel
So freaking true thank you my brother they used to be a good knife but production now is garbage I will never waste a cent on any cold steel products a company that can't stand behind it's own product isn't worth our hard earned cash ,
@@ChuRock-kb5mf exactly
Thank You! Joe X just broke their leatherneck like it was nothing. It shattered at the tip test.
people are waking up
My 1917 came with a so-so edge, it wasn't sharp like
it should have been.
My GSM Talwar has serious lock stick.
just terrible
Fortunately the only Cold Steel Product I own Is the .625 Big Bore Pro, a chunk of aluminium. Barely anything to mess up there. And I bought it long ago, so there's that
fact! Haha
I have a lot of their older knives. I like most of them. The spartan is good.
Wow, I guess I'll forget about buying any stuff from Cold Steal!
I have a Voyager that is kind of nice looking, but it's too stiff to flip open reliably right now.
@@user-eq4qd8sx5l sad what they've become
The "s" curve on the tip of your folder shows up best when the reflection from the light hits the side of the blade. You can really see how bad it bent on you. Am sorry to hear about the lack of heat treating and especially the lack 9f cooperation from customer service. Have been a fan of Cold Steel for years, but haven't bought anything from them since a "cutting sword" from them. The entire blade is rippled from not being worked correctly. I would've sent it back except I bought it from another company that handles Cold Steel products and sells them cheaper.
that sucks
They are slipping big time ‼️
I've been hearing about all types of problems with GSM Outdoors.
terrible
dont forget their dull the crap out of its edge Sheath with fiberglass
fact
Damn ,I love my Cold Steel from the Thompson era ,sad to see them going down like this . Thanks for the heads up on this I had no idea .
@@richardskinner4198 a sad demise
3 months ago I spent just shy of $1000 on 3 cold steel knives in 1 single order on amazon. Needless to say all 3 knives got returned. Shitty grind lines on there cpm3v trailmaster, natchez bowie and their san mai trailmaster isn't made in Japan anymore. I called up COLD STEEL and complained. I'm only buying $100 and under price knives from Cold Steel from now on. On a side note I do have a PERFECT CPM3V LAREDO BOWIE. So it's hit or miss.
@@jonathandiamond6801 prtetty sad when its hit or miss
They might of all been knockoffs??
I knew that afther mr Thompson sold Cold Steel it will became bs!
@@pavlepetrovic6846 it happened
I've always been a fan of Cold Steel, but I'm old enough to know I can get a lemon no matter the brand:) However, all that aside, they should indeed replace it man that sucks!
@@geico1975 I wasn't upset about the cheapness of the steel. It was the customer service that pushed me over the line
I would say..
Carefully hammer out the tip straight.
I had to do that with both my Bark River Edwin Forest bowies due to the tips coming through the box during shipping and getting bent.
The tip on those is so pointy it can so easily happen.
But, you have to go slow, and go easy when hammering out the tip lest you break it or weaken the steel. You could even fire harden the tip carefully as well with a torch.
@@B-leafer i might give it a full HT in my forge
We know you love the Espada xl as a fixed blade,believe me so do I.
A few years ago you replied to a comment I made saying you wanted me to write your epitaph. Your a talented guy and I'm a fan , I've seen your slip though and I thought it may be useful if I showed you how.
@@SlasherSociety09 I do love my dbad Crogall. You aren't lying
I’ve ordered 2 frontier bowies,Wild West Bowie,riflemans Bowie,code 4 tanto,and a Kyoto tanto from cold steel. Some of the edges were uneven,there were some flaws but overall they are well made knives. 🔪 I’m sure that when GSM took ownership they planned to cut quality and go for quantity since it will make them money. Lynn Thompson doesn’t care how it’s run anymore since he sold it. I’m going to order several more Coldsteel knives and that will be all for me. There are other companies out there that have far superior products but the price is also much greater. Also knives,swords and other cutlery has taken a massive decline because of firearms so they are only used occasionally. Now people can’t justify spending $100 or more on a blade unless it’s for their job.
so many better choices
@@DonnieBAllDay there is but for the working class, coldsteel dominates that market.
I love my SRK 3v. Haven’t had to deal with the customer service, and hopefully I don’t need to. Didn’t know they were that bad!
Never had a problem with the SRK
My last 2 CS were dull as fuck. I mean it took me 5 mins to sharpen but.. Fart! Also broke 2 of my Sure flight sports knives in half. If only TOPS made some of the ColdSteel models we'd be in business
@@Jimmy-gd5ho exactly!
Love my Tops blades, I've never had issues with their heat treat. I always reprofile them, though, cause they are a bit too thick for woodwork.
That's how I know the steel is good , I freaking love my Tanimboca Puukko , keeps a wicked edge .
@@airiksknifereviews9548 best dif heat treat in the business
My xl voyager bent chopping a .5” birch branch. Also, a handle partially broke off of my magnun kukri machete while chopping… they wanted me to send it in, but shipping would cost nearly what I paid for it. I just wrapped the broken part with duct tape…
@@wellregulated8725 chopping wood they say now is abusing the knife and an excuse not to replace it
@@DonnieBAllDay I bent the folder back…. But the handle breaking apart in my hand…. I wasn’t too happy about. Their hawks are great for throwing…. Atleast their machete aren’t crazy expensive…. A $400 knife should not be bending though….. are you close to anybody that has one of the machines that tests the rockwell ?
@@wellregulated8725 I'm sending it out for testing
@@DonnieBAllDay interested to see what the HRC is. 👊🏼
Just not the same since Lynn left.
@@BushcraftWoodsDevil facts
I am not happy with their s35vn. I do like my older cold steel throwers. I wouldn't buy another folder from them. The reason I got my last one(tiger claw folding karambit) was because Andrew Demko supposedly worked on the knife design and the triad lock.
Demko went solo. Killer stuff
@@DonnieBAllDay yeah, love my shark lock on my sharks foot.