Ipswich - Two teenagers handed life sentences for murder
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- Two teenagers have been handed life sentences for the murder of an 18-year-old man in Ipswich at the beginning of last year.
Alfie Hammett and Joshua Howell, both aged 19-years-old, appeared at Ipswich Crown Court today, Monday 11 March, where they were sentenced to life imprisonment with minimum custodial terms of 24 years and 20 years respectively.
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How pathetic the system is.. calling 2.... 19 year olds teens and the victim who was 18 yrs old a man... those two scumbags should never be freed ..
All three were gang members, and they knew each other.
@@DemPilafian That doesn't change the fact that an 18 year old may legally be an adult, but in reality is still just a kid. Especially since they're in a gang, so you know they're immature.
THEY DO YOU PEOPLE THE SAME AND BUY YA BURGER KING
@@network735 NAW FOOL PALE
@@network735let me guess your mom brought black guys home every day and didn’t have time for you? 😂😂😭😩
NOBODY walks about fully-hooded/helmeted and masked like those two unless they're up to no good. The cops seriously need to stamp this out🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
yeah now you have cops who can stop anyone wearing a hood or mask. That's a protected characteristic and would be a violation of human rights.
If they'd stopped these 2 arseholes for dressing like that and searched them, they would've found the damn weapons on them and saved a fcuking human life, huh??????? Past experience dictates that NOBODY walks about in broad daylight looking like the way those two cowards looked and NOT be up to no good. They were obviously trying to conceal their faces from all the CCTV cameras, so any sane person would ask "Why are they concealing their faces?". Stop and search should be top priority ....... fcuk their human rights if they're hiding something they shouldn't have on them.
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You're right. I see this phenomenon every day when I walk through Brixton to work. Can't the authorities get ANYTHING right? Anyone wearing a hoodie and a mask is up to no good end of discussion.
@@davidgoulden5956 you're actually so dumb
All that money on security cameras and no police presence on the streets to deter criminals.
The police can't win in many peoples eyes, everyone wants freedoms so imagine if there was police on every other corner!
@@hotpotato4027 Who is calling for police on every corner?
would be a good idea, better than cctv is it not ? @@hotpotato4027
You’ll see police walking the streets later this year, as we have a general election!!
@@mediterraneandiet2483Well you, apparently. Either you want lots of cops on the streets or you don't. Make up your mind lol
Broken Britain. This country is a corpse
Erm what 😂 let me guess usa right 😂
@@hotshottakes5975 I'm British and stand by what I said, or as Peter Hitchens more eloquently put it:
_“The country is so physically in debt; its inability to recover its economy so blatant. Its levels of education are pitiful; its school system is a disgrace to an advanced country. Its political system is bought and sold and it is almost impossible for any rational person to influence it. It’s a demoralised country in which the independent institutions have been eviscerated. Above all things, the family has been eviscerated. It is a country that doesn’t know its culture anymore; it doesn’t know its origins. This is a living, breathing corpse of a country. I don’t see any way out of that”_
@@hotshottakes5975 I'm born British but moved abroad about 20 years ago and believe me it's not just folk in the USA who think the UK is 'broken', in most nations we are a laughing stock, and we brought it upon ourselves. I also think there is a clue in the OP's emoji...
those were white boys as did the killing. if britain's broken, it was the likes of them as done it.
* a murder happens * the country is broken!
Nothing suspicious about them both walking about on a nice sunny day with their hoods up !
nice sunny day 🤣🤣🤣
You didn't notice the clouds, wet ground, or people wearing hats and hoods!
Not in Oakland California
never been to england have ya, it's fookin cold
@@chickenmanmackenzie3525 I lived in England for 10 years you muppet. Try communicating in English !
Life should mean life. If you murder someone then you spend life caged up! What is apparent in this video is just how much of a surveillance society we have become. That worries me.
Exactly, it did not prevent the crime, those cameras are for us law abiding citizens who may want to raise their heads above the parapet.
Many crimes are impossible to predict but the cctv images provide evidence to help put these killers behind bars. It’s also possible that much of the cctv is unmonitored, so are in fact not spying but again used after the fact if necessary. Many people have surveillance cameras in their own homes these days but they don’t sit indoors constantly watching them. It never has been a perfect world but you conspiracy nut jobs are helping it remain more dangerous with your freedoms and thinking your rights are being violated. The fact that those young killers were able to walk around so freely and unidentifiable by virtue of their dark clothing and faces masked, in hindsight looking like killers says a lot about the freedoms we do have! They were carrying machetes for Christ sake…
@@richardshortall5987 Yeah I know.
@@richardshortall5987much more cameras now than ever though
All that surveillance and not a single cctv operator smart enough to dispatch some police officers to check out these shady little thugs. Christ if the police have powers to question auditors for suspicious behaviour then they should have enough to question little runts like these two. God bless all the families affected by there actions.
All that CCTV showing their every move, yet the Met lose Abdul Ezedi then claim he "must have gone in the Thames" a week after the crime, despite London having more cameras than any other city in the UK.
Indeed…..a load of fucking bollocks.
Agreed and have we seen the body?
@@Isleofskye Of course not, but despite all the guff in the media about Ezedi having "converted to Christianity", they somehow put on a Muslim funeral for him !
Because it was a psy op like many which are carried out in order to steer society towards a hive mind system
Careful they'll say you must be a flat earthist and lizard people believer
Meanwhile here in China, my wife walks home alone from the gym at 9.30pm at night, through a park and along the riverside. You can see women walking around the streets at anytime at night in China. This is what a country is like when criminals get prosecuted properly, these 2 would have been executed for this murder, and Chinese prisons aren't holiday camps otherwise ...
The criminals in China are the CCP members.
Same in Scandinavia. My 18 y.o. daughter walks around late at night as she wants to. Never been a problem. None of her friends have had problems worth mentioning
@@flemminghansen6500 Scandinavia isn't a country, it's a region. Care to narrow it down a bit?
@@Michael-fw6vk Denmark and Sweden. But it would be same-same in Norway.
@@Michael-fw6vk It's annoying when people do that. There is also big difference within a country like an average village vs a city. And then different areas in the city.
I find it odd that I am told to remove my crash helmet before the attendants at the fuel station will let me put fuel in my bike, and yet it's okay to walk around public streets all masked and hooded. WTF? RIP to the young man that lost his life, and my condolences to the family.
Diversityyyyyyy
Actually you should tell them to fuck off when they pull that shit. Your safety equipment is legally required and they've no business trying to remove it from you, especially while you're trying to pay.
And yes, the hell this poor boy's family is going through is unimaginably horrible. This stuff shouldn't be happening in Suffolk.
My missus got told to take her helmet off before paying, so she said “would you tell a woman in a hijab or burka to take it off?
@@911HRW What a foolish comparison.
@@rzblde No!
Criminal masterminds, the both of them. I wonder how big and brave they're feeling now.
They get clout in jail for it , free roof over their heads, 3 square meals , gym, tv and access to drugs it’s like Butlins
@@joski9030 Meh, clout needs to be backed up and in adult jail these two are just a couple of minnows swimming with sharks. You can bet your ass, (and these muppets probably are) they aren't feeling like they're at Butlins and the screws certainly aren't as friendly as Redcoats..
@joski9030
Yeh, but 24 years of thinking "what am I missing ?"
Bars, clubs, women, cars, nice meals, football etc
Prison's an existence. Better to live a life.
what about gangs in jail@@joski9030
Brave/hard people don't need weapons ............. 💂♂️😎
Don't know the story but just saw the weapon. Murder was the intent.
Yep, ?
We live in a surveillance state yet crime is worse than ever
By design, the surveillance isn't about the criminals.
@@tableshaper4076what is it about?
@@paulmaliszewski1508 How deep do you want to go? Mass migration throughout the western world is driven by the global elites. The wealth gap is intentional and creates division not only economical but race related too. Notice how crime in the west is no longer punished or even discouraged. The surveillance isn't to stop criminals it's to observe and control society. More often than not, surveillance is used to control and publicly shame those who protest government. All of these factors are intentional and designed to collapse the western world so the global elites can bring in the New World Order. The UN's own website still has the tag line "you will have nothing and be happy", the happy part is not part of the plan. Realizing how hard this objective is to enact is the reasoning behind mass migration, it is design to be such a massive financial burden as well as a cultural bloodbath that the western collapse is almost a certainty now. Regardless of who is in power, the elites will make sure the mass migration doesn't stop. Congratulations you are rapidly becoming nothing more than a commodity with a bar code on your forehead.
Control id say@@paulmaliszewski1508
@@paulmaliszewski1508your kidding me right ? That can't be a serious question
The fact this is where I used to go to College is disgusting, nowhere is safe. Can't go to these places without the fear of getting stabbed. This country is a joke.
@@MichaelMiner-k8b Indeed. 🙏
The Country isn't a joke. Certain people in it are cnuts. Thanks to media we know about it.
@@MichaelMiner-k8b In what way ?
@@MichaelMiner-k8b Tony Stark?
A lot of countries are becoming a joke, not just Britain. Canada, USA, France, Germany. Very few countries that still have a backbone left. You get arrested, fined, cancelled or whatever if you're against the lgbt (even if you just have an opinion on the internet) but if you beat somebody to death you get under 10 years in prison with the best conditions.
I'm not with the capital punishment, but if someone steals, beats or kills somebody, he should be put in prison for life, no conditions (something like solitary confinement) with one poor meal per day. Maybe this way people would think twice before committing a crime. The laws are way too soft. This is an embarrassment. Look at the south-eastern asian countries and arabic countries and their crime rates. Laws are way harsher there.
Like the other reply said, only God can save us. The apocalypse must happen as soon as possible. We can't take this disgrace much longer.
Their parents either pay no attention or just dont give a shit.
They are in jail already
You can't always blame the parents fella. Chances are the parents are devastated. If you've got kids you may learn you can bring them up the best you can and they still turn out horrible little shits.
Their parents must be so proud. I hope they find out in prison they're not as tough as they think they are.
I'm guessing the police caught them quickly due to those white circles that followed them around ! 🧐
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strange how this hasnt had any significant media coverage similar to the brianna ghey case.
One white guy and one black guy both have british names, Alfie Hammett and Joshua Howell. Just google their name and look at the mugshots @@firstman9273
No Trannie, no likey @@firstman9273
Because the young man who’s been murdered in this case wasn’t mentally ill and pretending to be a girl.
@@frazerguest2864 yes, he was a gang member unlike Brianna
@@gamerknown : And just like Brianna, he was also male.
Life should mean life... The public are all crying out for harsher and better sentencing yet it just gets lighter ever year. Why?
Gov can't afford the prison service, cost a fortune. So does building new prisons. We can't afford armed forces or the NHS either. Although it doesn't matter that we can't afford armed forces because we can't recruit. Although when the woke brigade have finally decided what the new British flag should look like will they join the armed forces?
So the Politicians talk the talk, but the CPS, courts and prison service have to make compromises, including early parole. But they still want to arrest you for having the British flag on the street, but the Swastika on a peaceful march is ok because it depends on the context.
Iain Brady was locked up for 51 years and cost well over 10 million. It apparently currently costs around £273,000 a year for a high security prison per person. And normal prison costs £65,000 to imprison a person in this country once police, court costs and all the other steps are taken into account. After that it costs a further £40,000 for each year they spend incarcerated.
What is interesting is how many innocent folks died because that £10 mill wasn't available for the NHS. So in a way do they continue to kill people whilst locked up?
After all the NHS/the regional health authorities has to choose what treatments it can afford and who gets what treatment.
How many of the real lifers are so dysfunctional that they can't work the £40,000+ it costs each year to pay their way. Never mind what work they could do to earn such a sum or anything near.
Why cant we bring back the death penalty like we used to have
@@MJLDswnge And then kill innocent people due to miscarriage of justice?
@@benfrese3573 if they are caught in the act then, this was on CCTV. Isn't that proof of guilt enough?
@@MJLDswnge I'm not talking about this case specifically, I talk about the many cases where people got executed and it later came out they were innocent. If you bring back capital punishment this will happen again.
I find nothing more horrifying especially when you look at how often you have corrupt cops, prosecutors or judges.
Abolishing capital punishment was one of the worst tragedies that modern society has leaned towards. A life for a life. Period!
too many bleeding heart idiots around as well.
The surest way to collapse is democracy through the weak and foolish
@tophatanimation8748 lol, if the state wants to kill you it can.
If the state wants to remove you for political reasons, it can. Just like Duntsova.
Timothy Evans
'Period' , Lol. Oh, okay then.
Bro, elites have to make their money. Prisons are privately owned. If only everyone knew where all their tax dollars go every year, lol
Truely worthless.
Britain is
Third world country 😒
Under 14 years of Tory government
Import the 3rd world... become the 3rd world.
Import the third world, become the third world.
@@bertielikesbeer Wouldn't matter what the political persuasion of the government....it's still an absolute cesspool today.
@@bertielikesbeer be worse under Labour!! we need a whole new party that cares about us
Everyone’s a gangster these days. Get sick of the look on the streets of London
How dumb you have to be with all these cameras everywhere to murder someone downtown in daytime? That's just nuts.
About as smart as us putting all thoughts and information on TH-cam. But, here we are.
Thats not even a life sentence! Where were the Police in any of that CCTV footage of them strolling around fully hooded and masked with knife and machete in a town center in daylight?
I am a German and a little bit older. Visited England very often - the first time in the middle of the seventies. In those days you had - unarmed - Bobbies in the streets without protective vests an and guns and they were friendly. We felt save . It has really changed. But there were less scum on the streets than nowadays. We walked to Downing Street Nr. 10 and made Super 8 Films (I still have the records) in the short street and there was only a Police Officer in front of the door. Today you can hardly reach the spot where I stood. It is the same as in Germany - the main-problem are ………
Yeah, but at least the English arent speaking German so apparently that evens out.
@@Edodod What do you mean? We found a great number of german speaking english people. Every day - Not even in London - throughout the country. We where always surprised about that. What I ment is that the big problem is the great number of young and younger men from less civilisised countries outside of Europe. Look at the gangs with arab roots in Berlin o.s.o. . And England has the same problem . London is really not the same lovable city as three decades bevor. I know that - sadly.
@@dieterfuchs2288 I like how you missed one of the most obvious memes.
@@Edodod you cant teach an old dog new tricks.
Tell us the main problem, bud?
Cause the two perpetrators in this video are English, one looks like you and the other is half of yours and was most definitely raised by WW.
So do me a favour with that bs attempt to try and make it racial.
I’m sorry but when they are in town faces covered cctv should have seen they looked dodgy and called police to search them
mate this is pc uk they wud bee to scared to stop search them most kids faces are covered its a sick trend from internet it represents being bad hard..
Skynet
Yeah let's install cameras in our houses to so they will know when we are suspicious.
@@soundasapound6411 I saw that some ugly chavvy tracksuit brand was offering a free ski mask with every purchase. What the f for?
Police were quick enough to oppress the Native youths pre-2010 ..but not blacks from africa it seems . .. ?!!!!!
2 geniuses running from committing murder.
When it says Life, does that mean 12 years out in 6 ?
You can’t get anything less than a 12 minimum without parole starting point for murder you goon.
In this case it means a minimum of 20 and 24 years before they're considered for parole.
They have to do a minimum of 24 years and 20 years and then they can go for parole, but when they get out they are on a life license and can be recalled to prison at anytime if they break the conditions of their release or commit a crime.
Judged by 12 and carried by 6
@@wildnfree101
Recall to prison is nearly unheard-of mate. By the time they're formally paroled, these guys will have been out partying on weekend leave and house arrest for a decade already.
Please someone tell them: you will be caught and you will end up in prison…. They don’t seem to be able to think further than the tips of their noses.
You reap what you sow... This is the future of the country...
Same here in The Netherlands mate
Must be all that saxon blood making them violent?
Wow, it is crazy that there are cameras everywhere that tracked these two murderers. Even the US, with their intelligence and technology, couldn't do this. Lol.
What a dumb comment. You live in a surveillance state with no privacy. 😂
At least the sentences in the u.s are more severe and the prisons are not holiday camps.
@@pabo-qv3nx And so effective, which is why the US incarcerates more people than any other country.
@@pabo-qv3nxThat depends on which state. Some states are even softer than the UK.
USA here- I wish we had the camera coverage UK has but too many people would be screaming about their privacy invaded or some other crying crap. USA has never really had real world problems - we are really behind when it comes to true violence.
We are too soft in this country, life should mean life. The sentences are way too short.
This ONCE great country is finished ..Feel so bad for the next generation. Broken Britain is an understatement.
What a terrible devaluation of human life. Where are the parents? Parents should be teaching their children the beautiful value of all human life, curiosity, and empathy.
Parents can't even dress themselves these days let alone take responsibility for bringing up a child.....
Life should mean life are bring back capital punishment
Yes. I used to think that capital punishment was a low form of justice which tended to brutalize (tended to make more brutal) every citizen of a state in which it was practiced.
Now I think it is the citizenry of the state which takes intentional homicide _less_ seriously and punishes it _less_ severely which becomes more brutal.
As others have said, nothing suspicious at all about them walking around hiding their faces. That should be an arrestable offence in itself. And if you take a life deliberately, proven & beyond doubt, then you lose your freedom forever.
Aren't these kids aware of Surveillance Cameras?!? Unbelievable.
those two gangsters will be on the bacon wing crying like babys
They're Not gangsters, say that and they're happy to think they are
What’s a bacon wing ?
When children lack discipline, the consequences are felt by all. Neglecting to enforce discipline in youths lead to a disregard for authority and moral values. In Western societies, lack of punishment at early age is contributing negatively to societal decay, with diminished respect for elders and ethical principles. Without proper guidance, children tend to grow into delinquents, believing they can act without repercussions.
Blame the bloody parents
People need to understand that they have 20 and a 24yr minimum sentences which means they won't be considered for release until they have both done there 20 and 24yr sentences. If the parole board think they are unsafe for release then they could do a lot longer or never be released.
How do those boots taste?
@@steven401ytx stop being a kcid.
@@steven401ytx He isnt wrong. I was in with a lad who got 12 years for a serious knife attack on three people. he had done 17 years when I landed and was refused another parole hearing just before I left. IPP In the Public Protection order. They can be kept indefinitely unless they become totally passive. that 20 years can easily become 35 if they show any aggressive behaviour in nick.
All the possibilities anyone could achieve with the limited time we have on this earth, and this is what they choose to do... What a waste!
I love diversity. It’s our strength.
DIEversity ; )
What do they expect from people who walk into a store with machetes as kids and murder other in cold blood. Do they think they will change after 20 (or whatever life sentence means) years?
I'm not a resident there and seeing how the camera's tracked everything the moment he opened the door how do you not think twice about this?
Kids aren't bright these days.
congratulations, you have an iq above 85
R.I.P 🕊️
With all this suspicious, no police to apprehend this two evils
I asked some black kid a polite question about directions while touring in London with a cousin and her daughter - he gave me a murderous look and made a move showing he clearly wanted to attack me … except his friend was there … that time.
Asking certain kids about directions or the time can pose a serious scientific challenge. Maybe you made him lose face in front of his peers and therefore provoked a potentially dangerous response.
Are you Asian ?
I asked some pale white kid if he had ever seasond chicken at home?! He looked at me totally baffled..😂
Doing this at 3pm in a town centre with plenty of people and hundreds of CCTV is crazy. It’s like they wanted to be caught
Thank you to Police & court system; condolences to victim’s family. Hope no parole offer during that custodial sentence.
He couldn't have planned that any worse, filmed him leaving the house, going to the scene, filmed doing the crime, filmed walking back home, filmed walking into house.
Criminal: "Do not tell me,i get life!!"
Judje Dredd:"No,death!!"
Schools need a radical reform and start from scratch educating these kids. Respect and discipline is key. We have a society with none currently. For when there is 100% certainty the death penalty should be chosen. You had clear images of machetes being used. Can you imagine what the victim felt?
you should move to the ho od! they would love you and listen to your never heard before wisdomz !
maybe even crown you "Big TaZff Dadz"
Primary schools are teaching kids it's okay for a girl to be a boy and vice verca 🤦🏾😡
This is the fpresent and the future of the UK. Well educated, youth religious, and bright!
geniuses
This is the future of the EU. They are educated religious in the Moschee. .
@@Mia-q6d Which EU countries are entirely Muslim? Strange comment.
I remember this,got held up in the traffic in town because of the police & ambulance,literally live 3 min drive away,candles & flowers are still being put out side where it happened
Indications that this was gang activity. Stay out of gangs kids.
Broken Britain
Yep. Tory Britain.
I just don't understand their mentality, why do they want to go to prison?
..barely humanoid . . .
No thought process no love ,parent probably gave them a smartphone aged 5 then ignored the kid, no education just sex and violence is all they know.
It must mean living in a fantasy to make any sense from outside.
Probably driven by some video game?
Video games nowadays are full of gore and killings, chasing and brutally killing cops, crashing cars e.t.c immortal playable characters...
Sad.
Parents - be sure to check what games your kids are playing, for society's sake.
3 meals a day
Judas Preist song "Electric eye" foretold of this in 1982. Heavy metal fans have know these days were coming.
And Chris De Burgh , the song "Devils Eye".
Anyone notice how they walk synchronized - It shoes that they are intent and focused and on the same level.
It's about time that a life sentence means your whole life, not 10 - 15 years. How many sex offenders etc have been released into the community only to do it again?
20 minutes after they met near the college, they had found James and attacked him. Hammett and James were known to each other and so Hammett would have had no trouble identifying him in a crowded street.
The court heard that the motive for the attack was most likely due to tensions between rival gangs from Norwich. James Quigley had an association with a gang called ‘OTM’, which stands for ‘Only The Money’.
Hammett - who had previously lived in Norwich - was associated with another gang from there called ‘3rdside’, who were rivals of ‘OTM’. Joshua Howell had links to the Nacton gang in Ipswich - also known as ‘IP3’ - who the prosecution attest had formed a level of cooperation with ‘3rdside’.
Why was he wearing a helmet if he wasn’t riding?
He knew what him and his worthless buddy were going to do so he wanted to hide from the git go. Cowards the both of them.
Looks stupid af
Stay aware and carry. Situational awareness is key. Eternal vigilance is the price of staying safe.
100% my friend, no walking around glued to phones or with ear buds in listening to music.
I don’t understand why people in England (I assume this is England) when every building has cameras on it. You’re gonna get caught! Lol
Import the 3rd world and you get third world thinking.
They are using the 3 year old method of if i cannot see you you cannot see me.
Seems like Cameras do all the policing these days. No police to stop this happening in the first place. It’s happening all over the country.
Terrible video. Incomplete. Who was murdered and why? What was the motive? What is the time it occurred in this video? Where is it? This is low information.
Ipswich.
It should be illegal to wear balaclavas, masks and all that face covering clothing.. There’s absolutely no reason to wear that shit, especially indoors
crazy how the Hooligans quote is still applicable today: 'Look out, mate. We're the most watched country in the world.'
Insane how many cameras there are, but they still weren't able to prevent this. Smh.. Is anyone actually watching these cams live or do they only watch it AFTER something has happened??
Who watches it live lol 😅 ofcourse only after. They'd have to have dedicated eyes looking at alot of nothing according to them.
Do you think there are 10k people looking at video cameras all day?
Cameras are to provide a visible deterrent (in some cases) and to help *solve* crimes mainly, *not* to prevent them.
Life sentence should be for LIFE not 20+ years regardless if they're teens or adults. End off. This is why the Eastern country laws are much more compliance and stricter. But i get it afterall this is GREAT BRITAIN (more like shite britain)
When u say life sentence you mean for vitamins family's? Killer's will be out in few years time. But poor family's suffers all their life's.
*Victims?
How lovely and transparent this video is. Let's see the same if the ethnicity of the perpetrator is NOT white. let's see that video on that case. let's see if the British justice system allows for the public depiction of the criminals if they're not white
You must be joking, new to the internet, or forgot to take your medication, lol.
There are *plenty* of videos showing ethnic minority perps and victims. Usually with a comment section full to the brim with racist bile.
Controversial comment but I blame the Police for allowing society to get out of hand. By turning a blind eye to the simple things like riding a bike with no lights or on the pavement and other trivial crimes, passing cars parked on the pavement, yellow lines etc. They have allowed youths to think they can get away with everything, so now they have no respect for the law or society and this is what we are left with.
It's not a controversial comment, it's a stupid comment
@@domurtag1978 Just like maintenance if you take care of the small things, the bigger things the bigger issues tend not to happen. Crime has never been so high and so violent, the reason is the public have no respect for the Police.
The Police have lost control in this country because it is all about money and positions. Why do the Police still retire so early whilst the working man carries on to 67?
I am not saying that there are no good Police officers left, I would give evidence and support the Police wherever I can but the system is broken. It needs a wholly independent scrutiny. Not the present version which is retired Police officers scrutinising their own colleagues, that doe not work.
You should have pointed to the fact it is acceptable for anyone to walk around hidden like this in a country that has put a camera on every possible corner. Counterintuitive nonsense. The laws are lax and it proves society is only manageable through law and order. Look at how quickly we descend to chaos when not enforcing the simple rules. But pointing out the bike stuff seems irrelevant, these two guys would exist whether or not bicycle laws are enforced. I do get your point, odd comparison.
@@TBonertonVery odd indeed.
In the seventies this all started. No discipline, school couldn’t cane you anymore. Hit the eighties, liberal luvvies, “ you can’t hit your children! “ too late the damage had been done.
Anyone wearing those masks should be imprisoned for life.
Small price to pay for diversity ❤
One white guy and one black guy both have british names, Alfie Hammett and Joshua Howell. Just google their name and look at the mugshots
@@blackinton2526 one was arab, the other african. No matter their nationality or name, they will never be white europeans.
Meaning what exactly?
Nobody should be allowed to walk with face masks on....utter non sense!
This Boils My Blood.
What happened to the helmet after he leaves home? He is wearing grey pants when he leaves and black pants when he runs home and his helmet is back on ??? Just curious 🤔
"18 year old man". That makes me sad. The victim was just a child.
@@tommaguzzi1723who did they murder ? And why ?
Deport immediately
they're most likely born here...
@@tourzrap Doesn't make them less of a intrusive species.
@@arkhanhind2613 species??? What are you talking about botanical plants??
Deport to London which is more or less a foreign country these days
Deport to where?
Life sentence, my foot. They will be out in 20 years.
(American here) I watched waiting for an attack, I assumed they would reverse the blurry masking then, to protect our innocent eyes.
No, they simply omit the whole attack. Thank you nanny state, us ‘mushrooms’ must be protected!
Except when we really need a fast response from law enforcement, uhuh! It is nice that there are cameras everywhere, so the crims are caught, so the ‘justice’ system can slap their hands.
LOL!
BTW, Cheers and beers!
In for 20 years minimum and 24 minimum before being considered for parole,be in their 40s if they get parole but on licence for life so one mistake straight bk,plus the actual footage even if blurred,the lad has parents and no parent would want to come across that on the net my friend,enjoy your beers sir and no trans fluid please lol
WHY THE FCUK DID YOU WANT TO SEE SOMEONE BEING ATTACKED THEN KILLED, YA' DAMN GHOUL🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
They say England has more surveillance cameras than any other country .
Jeez ya can't have slash on a deserted dark night without being filmed.
@@John-ob7dh cameras on poles cameras on cars cameras on peoples heads,its camera madness i tell you
So everything BUT the attack, huh?
so his own family shared their door cam video? interesting. also why does it say Raymond in title and James at the start of the video. So sad that this happens
His full name was Raymond James Quigley and he sometimes went just by James.
Footage more than likely seized with a warrant
Do they simply forget about the 1 million cameras following every move they make? Dont they know they are being filmed?
Absolutely crazy
Literally left home and went out of his way to end a random persons life
No way that was random , let's hear the full story first .
On the one hand, it is frightening to think Big Brother has become truth, on the other hand, sometimes it is good to know he certainly also has his merits, as in an urban environment. You'd have to push someone from the cliffs of Dover or somewhere in the Highlands to have at least some "chance" not to have been recorded by a CCTV. But you never know if no Google Streetview car is just driving by at the same time or if someone from the BBC isn't just making pictures with a drone about the lovelife of seagulls. Maybe better wipe out murderous intent all together, what do you think ?
Surveillance state, Can't move one inch without being Recorded yet it doesn't stop crime. They tell you we must have all these cameras in the name of Safety.
I'm sure the person that was murdered didn't feel very safe.
Did they arrive on small boats? Please tell me the murderers arrived on small boats. I bet they went to the local mosque! Am I right? C'mon. Give me SOMETHING!!!
Did you watch the video? 😂😂😂
Wrong on all counts.
no, joshua howell and alfie hammett, don’t sound islamic to me. you have an agenda
Imagine if the tories hadn't got rid of 20,000 police and stripped judiciary.
This country is a carcass
Damn! It seems like the UK got more cameras than the US.
I'm so glad modern policing is conducted from a heated surveillance office. We've come so far!
Crime rate is going down right?
Where is the video of the murder?.
We can always learn something from these tragedies, as unsetteling as they may be.
They wouldn't release the footage even if they have it, doing so would create huge racial tensions.... something the government don't want.
people complain about cameras everywhere, but they do help when crime happens.
Wearing helmet. Not suspicious at all. Good sentencing needs to be harsher for all crimes.and parents need to step up. And teach their kid's right and wrong
Was it found out why they targeted the 18 year old?
Wonder which nationality these guys have. But Britian is done anyways
British.
Broken UK . People do something
Merely being caught with a knife should follow with a 10 year sentence no parole no nothing. Just 10 years. No extenuating circumstances. No mitigation. 10 years. Regardless of if you are youth or not
Those are not knives …..they are pangas.
This case was all over the news on BBC SUFFOLK.
There has been outrage ….
But soon drowned out by some more pressing liberal claptrap .
It will never happen though.
rétard
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If you get caught with a car you should get 10 years. No parole no extenuating circumstances. Since it's infinitely more damaging than a knife.
lol, sheep