fynes leigh You're allowed to believe any&all fairy tales you like, don't try to obligate unwilling or more circumspect thinkers to follow your example. Keep your crazy among the like-minded.
@fynes leigh it's pretty simple. I don't believe in God. Therefore I'm an atheist. I don't quite get what you mean by attention being that this is an atheist TH-cam channel....
It is actually somewhat worse than that. It was the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. So until they partook of the fruit of this tree they could have had absolutely NO conception of right or wrong, good and evil, etc, or the implications of or surrounding the act. And so couldn't actually reasonably be convicted of the "crime" if they had no idea whatsoever. We apparently are better than this deity. We would never imagine or think to blame a child, or someone incapable of the forethought required and an understanding of thier responsibilities and consequences. Seriously. How does an educated, thinking, feeling, empathetic, reasonable adult NOT see this rather large problem with one of the absolute fundamental aspects of thier whole deal. How reasonably COULD Adam and Eve be justly "convicted"? Therefore the whole fall idea is made morally/ethically bankrupt, instead simply being an appeal to power. Leaving the deity no better than a tyrant, "I'm in charge, I arbitrarily decide and make the rules". But of course it is EVEN worse. We KNOW Adam and Eve never actually existed in the first place. hence NO fall ever happened, and thus,no need of an atonement or saviour figure.
law is were a saviour is needed, On one hand, you have divine natural law and the other you have human positive law, human positive law is written and divine natural law is not and that is where the bible comes in. If you're trying to find reason through another mans words or beliefs then you will not.
Barry Turgoose. I'm a bit confused. You say that human positive law is written whereas divine natural law is not, are you saying that the bible isn't divine natural law?
The bible is an attempt to explain divine law in a reverse manner, a book of "should not" if you like. the stoics of the time agreed that law had to have a rational side and an irrational side, human positive law on its own is not tailored to the individual nor the situation, therefore, rendering it unworthy, wereas divine positive law is tailored to the individual and the situation so both work in a juxtaposed manner, The first of the ten commandment's is to remind you that divine natural law came before human positive law, law is located by the will. thanks for the question.
ok then answer this please. Who does your behavior reflect, your parents ? The "left" or "greenies" Did anyone before Jesus ever teach to love their enemies and then while dying in excruciating pain say "father forgive them, they don`t know what they are doing" How is Jesus a figure I created ?
It don't need interpretation in its meaning, the bible interpretes itself. But , as with any language, it is interpreted from one language to another, but God's letters to man is , by design, is made to interpret itself.
@James Harris it is clear to all, but not all wants to hear it. But God gives everyone the light they need, if you want to know God you have to start a relationship with him , and you do that with what you know now, what have you done with what you know? Such as that man is a sinner and is separated from God, and God loves you and wants you to come to Him ? You do that by placing your faith in Jesus.
@Gregisonutube your correct when you say , you are not one of His children, no one is a child of God by being a human being, that's why you must be born again, not of flesh but of spirit, we have to be adopted into the family of God to be a child of God. And the way to do that is open to every human being, put your faith in Jesus, to save you from the wrath to come, which is to be eternally separated from God.
@Gregisonutube you were procreated, from parents, and born with a dead spirit, and with a deadly condition, it's called "sin" and you get the infilling of the Holy Spirit when your "Born Again" that's when God fixes your heart condition from the inside out. Then you are made alive to the spiritual things of God. Put your trust in Jesus and receive the Holy Spirit. And a new life through Christ. Right now you are separated from God. Don't stay there because if you leave your body in that condition you will remain in that condition for eternity. 😰😢 hope you think about this.
@Gregisonutube faith is acting like God is telling the truth, and as if God has spoken directly to you , acting like something is so even when it is not so in order that it might be so ,simply because God said. Faith is not just a word, but faith is an action word that involves action. It is an action in response to God's will.
@Michael Kevin Millet atheists believe you have the rest of your life. Christian extremists believe that Jesus is coming any day now. Atheists think that we are all there is, so we must do something about the future because no one else will. Christian extremists think that Jesus will solve all our problems. When you're voting for a leader you're voting for someone who is supposed to solve problems. Not sit there and say someone else will.
@Michael Kevin Millet straw manning won't help you. I have hope for the future because I know the probability of me dying soon is very low. And you should know by now that politicians never read the Bible. Either that or they lie about it's contents. So quoting the Bible doesn't actually give you a representation of them.
@Michael Kevin Millet now what is the probability of that? Judging by the rate of people of my age in my economical situation dying I'm gonna guess to low for me to be concerned. I don't even see your point. Are you trying to make me fit your straw man by making me think death is near? It won't work because you don't have the statistics to back you up. Good day sir.
@@large1965 I guess you believe Aron ra line of nonsense. And you ask me if I'm homeschooled? How about checking out what this fool says instead of just following along like another pathetic sheep following the herd?
@@dannykirby7425 He holds a degree in Paleantology from the university of Texas. You may wanna look up what this study entails. Spoiler Alert: It leaves little room for Behemoths, Dragons, Unicorns nor Talking Snakes...
@@large1965 😄😄yes I know, it amazes me how so many people don't understand scripture. And how many say the same kind of nonsense Aron says. For a guy who acts so intelligent and scientifically knowledgeable, he gets almost everything he says wrong. I have been watching some of his videos for about 6 months, just to see how many things he gets wrong and it's alot. Today I don't have time to go into it but look at some of his other videos and you might come across my other comments. He is even wrong on some paleontology. It so wrong that I honestly believe that he knows it's wrong but he don't care as long as he can fool many. The best lie is the one that most looks like the truth.
OLDER RELIGIONS: How about the Egyptian gods (Osiris, Isis, Horus) which were worshipped for two thousands years before Jesus? How about the Hittite storm god Tarhunt who was worshipped as far back as 1600 BC? How about Marduk, who was worshipped in Babylon as far back as 1800 BC? We now think of these beliefs as "myths" but they were full blown state religions in their day. Those peoples were as devoted, and had as much faith in those beliefs as the most fervent modern Christian/Muslim/Hindu, yet those beliefs have all but disappeared from the world. What will people think of today's religions in 1000, 2000 or 10,000 years?
R5d4d2 well no they haven't... The Sumerian god el and his wife asherah... Along with his sons Mot, Marduk and Ba'al all made it into the bible. The old gang is back in business...lol. El is now Yahweh.. Asherah has the same name. So do the others. Same religion for the most part. Just that the adherents aren't aware of it.
They would probably see them as primitive as there will no doubt be a religion in the far future that will contain believers that span multiple planets and different intelligent species
That’s right all those religions have disappeared but not God and not the Jews or Christianity and those 2 will never disappear. The small state of Israel is still here and is a world topic almost daily. Why? Most of the places mentioned in the Bible are still around thousands of years later archaeological finds are constantly showing the reliability of the Bible , why? 😂🧐
@@iseeundeadpeople9 you should investigate the 100s of thousands of archeological finds related to the Bible. Not just places, but also people and events have been proven to be correct.
Ironic, Atheists preach the Bible better than Christian pastors. Pastors love to pick and choose what will make people feel good and do what they want, Atheists encourage people to read the book and you learn how appalling it actually is.
holy. shit. that fact about abortion blew my mind. I usually just use the verses about baby slaying when debating abortion but wow. I never realized there was an overt reference to abortions being practiced. thank you for that eye opening information!
"Ask Matt or be near Matt. He'll let you know when I'm wrong." What preacher puts you on the lookout for someone that can correct him? AronRa is a sledgehammer of reason!
Michael, sure there are historical truths in the Bible, and you can believe in God while not being religious, but evolution is true, and there's no way at this point to disprove it as a whole. Rejecting evolution and believing in God don't go hand-in-hand, and in fact as Aron points out most Christians accept evolution as well as the historical parts of the Old and New Testaments. Please, do some reading on these topics - they're fascinating.
@@PigglePigSwillbucket sorry to tell you your mistaken as evolution requires more belief than the Bible...for example 21 soil layers were created in 7 seconds when mount saint Helen blew it didn't take millions of years to make them. Another is fossil creation as it requires water and sediment not possible unless animal dies near river or in a flood...and their found all over planet from highest mountains to lowest desert. Plus Marie's discovery of Malable proteins in dinosaur fossils with a Max 10k lifespan and much more
@@hadescerberus8322 well, you're wrong. what does geology have to do with evolution. Do you know that most Christians accept evolutionary theory. Fossil creation does not require water - the fossils in tar in Los Angeles are a good example, as is the Velociraptor-Protoceratops fossil in a sand dune. The Bible has some truth to it like I said, but I personally do not believe in God. God is not part of science, though; instead the God concept is philisophical. Creationism is scientific though, and can therefore be tested, and has failed miserably. Plus, science is all about creating models to accurately predict future data, and creationism does not at all meet this requirement, while evolution has more than met this just in the first 50 years since Darwin and Wallace founded it. By the way, I'm no longer a fan or follower of Aron Ra, the creator of this video. He's far too dogmatic against religion and is plain stupid on issues like the definition of atheism
@@PigglePigSwillbucket while I agree mainstream creationism beliefs are wrong. Doesn't mean Bible is. Now evolution has in no way held up or been validated by any means. Not a single documented case nor any real evidence, all documented mutations are diseases. PS carbon dating is in no way an accurate tool. But in the end geology shows flood, what you don't know is the flood included asteroids,end of dinosaurs, destruction of atmosphere, creation of plate tectonics, creation and separation of pangea, first Ice Age right after flood... And geology of the earth shows this... Through fossils, volcanoes, and an interesting process the earth undergoes when it's tilt reaches 15 degrees. And so much more
On a guitar?? Nevertheless I once saw in Punch that the fellow who played Rumpole of the Bailey, Leo McKern, played the part of the Mountain King on stage in London. He'd have been marvelous for the part.
I studied religion from the day I started college to today, so well over 3 decades and during that time I learned that all religions plagiarized from each other. Everyone stole something from another religion and claimed they are the one true religion. Want examples? 1. The great flood - wasn't originally a Christian belief, it came from the Epic of Gilgamesh. Every detail down to the size were stolen from the Epic. 2. Book of Proverbs - Maybe we should really call it what it is, Egyptian Instruction of Amenemope. Though there are still some that might argue this, too many of the proverbs are identical. 3. Garden of Eden - The Persian scriptures speak of a story about how Ormuzd created the world and 2 humans in 6 days and then rested on the 7th. Oh, and the names of the humans were Adama and Evah. They only predate the first bible scriptures by about 300 years since they were made in 10th BC. 4. Angel's and Demons - again the Persians, we'll refer to them as Zoroastrianism were the first to believe in angels and demons, the idea of Satan and the battle between good and evil. They also refer to their prophet Zarathustra as being surrounded by a halo of light...sound familiar? 5. The Trinity - Where does the word trinity come from? Not Matthew 28:19. Judaism is all about monotheism but Catholicism leans towards the idea of a trinity. Would it surprise you to know it likely came from Egyptian mythology with Amun, Re, and Ptah? Or maybe Ishtar, Baal, and Tammuz of Babylonian mythology. Maybe Anu, Enlil and Ea of the Sumerian Mythology. The concept was not original clearly. 6. The Canaanites The bible described the Israelites having destroyed them, yet if you look at Psalms 29, it's so similar to Ulgaritic (the language of the Canaanites) that we have to consider that the Israelites are in fact one in the same. 7. Heaven and Hell - Remember Zoroastrianism (Persians), well, it was them that first spoke of a heaven and hell. It was the Babylonians that spoke of a resurrection and judgment. It was the Persians who coined the word paradise with Mithraism and it was the Norse religion that coined the word Hel and gave the Christians the idea of an afterlife due to their pagan myth. I already pointed out that Sheol means place of dead, but Hades was greek for underworld. 8. Isaiah - the Gathas of Zarathushtra Yasna (Sacred texts of the Zoroastrians) can be attributed to the influence here. Zoroastrianism basically was copied throughout the old testament. Yasna 44.3 :4-5 to Isaiah 40:26. Or maybe we look at Yasna 44.4:1-3 compared to Isaiah 40:12. the list goes on and on. 9. Aspects of the messiah - the pagan aspects of the rituals surrounding Christian celebrations can easily be explained by the fact that these rituals were intended to replace pagan practices, the similarities in philosophy can only be explained through external influence. Consider that the teachings of jesus and the teachings of Buddha, Mithras, and Zarathustra are oddly similar. 10. The Ten Commandments - Let's just say that the ten commandments were not inspired by god, but by the Egyptian Book of the Dead about 1200 years earlier. It might also have come from the Code of Hammurapi about 900 years later. But what do I know...here are some examples: Book of the Dead: “I have not blasphemed.” Exodus 20:7: “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that shall take the name of the Lord his God in vain.” Book of the Dead: “I have not committed adultery, I have not lain with men.” Exodus 20:14: “Thou shalt not commit adultery.” Book of the Dead: “I have not stolen.” Exodus 20:15: “Thou shalt not steal.” I guess I would be best to include Bart D. Ehrman, the renowned biblical scholar who identified that half of the new testament was written by impostors taking on the names of apostles like Paul. That means the book you think is the word of god, was actually written by a bunch of liars claiming to be apostles and weren't. Feel free to read his book, "Forged". here are my favorite claims though: * At least 11 of the 27 New Testament books are forgeries. * The New Testament books attributed to Jesus’ disciples could not have been written by them because they were illiterate. * Many of the New Testament’s forgeries were manufactured by early Christian leaders trying to settle theological feuds. But again, what do I know...I'm only an atheist.
+Are_You_Serious: I'm sure that various cultures copied from each other: 1. How to make copper. How to make tin. How to make zinc, glass, arrows, spears, swords, shields, etc. 2. How to make cloths 3. How to build houses 4. They copied words from each other and modified them over time (language evolution) So, it is natural that they copied religious ideas. The problem is that this stuff happened so long ago, I think it is difficult to tell who copied who. Who was the original? Were the jews really in egypt? Did they really leave all together at some point? "4. Angel's and Demons - again the Persians, we'll refer to them as Zoroastrianism were the first to believe in angels and demons, the idea of Satan and the battle between good and evil. They also refer to their prophet Zarathustra as being surrounded by a halo of light...sound familiar? " ==This one is pretty basic. I think different cultures can come up with this notion without copying each other. So, I doubt your claim. "Book of the Dead: “I have not stolen.” Exodus 20:15: “Thou shalt not steal.”" ==This too, it is pretty basic. It is possible for different cultures to come up with "Do not steel, do not kill, do not steel my wife, do not fuck my wife....." So, I doubt your claim. As for the flood myth, I would say it is a 100% guarantee that people had contact with each other and copied this idea. Which leads to the question, what else did they copy from each other's religion?
@James Powers Gods like Zeus and Isis existed long before Christianity and the Christian Almighty God. Christianity was a new religion (known as a cult in those days) which claimed that its god is bigger than all the gods of the past and existed before them. This is a clever claim because people want a religion that has a powerful message. Another clever claim made by Christianity is that God created a good angel called Satan and the good angel became a bad angel and this bad angel (Satan) is responsible for the evil in the world. It's a clever claim because God created this entity called Satan that can be used as a scapegoat to explain why evil exists in the world. It's a clever claim because people no longer blame God for creating such a messed up world; they simply blame Satan for the mess. Another clever trick used by Christianity is that it urges its followers to have faith and not to ask too many questions because those who too many questions are being influenced by Satan.
I'd be more impressed if the Crucifixion were a self-imposed punishment for God's cruelty to nearly all living things. I presume that bacteria do not experience pain.
@fynes leigh or how about not teaching them that homosexuality is a terrible thing and they are terrible people? Does that satisfy you? Or how about that teaching about the studies of sexuality as a whole, and how being homosexual doesnt have some long list of health side effects that religous people have made up? How about teaching about how through out history people have married for procreation and had sex with who ever of either gender that they felt like?
@fynes leigh -- "stranger to reason" ... that being said by someone who doesn't even know that homosexuality is a phenomenon that occurs everywhere in nature, can neither be educated 'into' anyone nor 'out of' anyone and has nothing inherently "wrong" to it. Oh, the irony. By the way, kid, many children who when asking about a homosexual couple are told that "they are just in love as mom and dad are" just go on with their day saying "ok fine". If they are using gay as an insult, it's learned behaviour (as is with all language and style that isn't created from scratch) -- and on the other hand, children like to form groups even more than adults. Or would you say that it says anything important about wearers of glasses that they often get bullied by other children, you ignorant buffoon?
Aron, wishing you all the best in your political career, I hope that even there that there are enough parents who actually care about their child's education to get you into a position to improve it.
I enjoy your speeches and lectures so much! You are clearly intelligent and well-educated, and have obviously done thousands of hours of research. I would love to have you with me the next time I see my fundamentalist mother and mother in law.
Aron is brilliant, rational and quite knowledgeable. He actually researches the subject and takes time to understand something before having an opinion. I wish everyone takes the same approach before discussing any subject.
I always thought that the Ten Commandments story had a lot of parallels with Joseph smith's whole bit. A first draft was made, and got destroyed. In both stories, the second draft was not at all like the original. Almost like what happens when people make shit up...
The bible verses depicting Jesus' resurrection were also supposedly 30 (give or take) years after his supposed "death" where NOTHING was recorded at the time, again until 30-ish years later. You ever hear about "The Telephone Game?" Person 1 tells Person 2 "AAA" (The letters are 'some kind of info') After person 1 and 2 go their seperate ways, person 2 tells person 3 "AAB." It was different, because it wasn't written down first, so person 2 had to go off memory. You see the problem here? Imagine this happening for 30 years before someone decided to write it down anywhere.
Valid observation. However, the point is that Moses' revision and re-creation of the tablets makes the 10 Commandments as obviously NOT divinely inspired as Joseph Smith's revision and re-creation of Book of Lehi that Martin Harris "lost". The big difference between the two is that we know Joseph Smith actually existed, whereas (outside scripture) there is absolutely zero evidence that Moses (or any other Egyptian Hebrews) ever did.
@@SkollTheWerewolf It's tempting to compare the sightings of a resurrected Jesus to the sightings of Elvis after he died. Huh. Just thought. He was called the King too...
Does anyone else get a good feeling while listening to Aron give his speeches? I love his work because it's so grounded in truth, you don't have to filter out bullshit with him. So relaxing and a welcome change from the social norms.
I'm going to have a sit down with a couple of Christians today who are trying to convert me. One of them supposedly read the Bible 4 times. So it's probably going to be a lot of mental gymnastics from their side because if they've read the Bible and still find it to be logical and satisfactory, then they must be under some form of cognitive dissonance. This is going to be fun, I hope.
They're trained in deceptive tactics with same tired arguments specifically designed to be circular. I'm an atheist and was openly so at a Christian drug rehab in Chico where we did Bible study 8 hours a day. They interpreted the Bible "in the spirit" meaning verses in the Bible could mean one thing one minute then something totally different if the "Holy Spirit" moved you.
@fynes leigh Did you not know that making a silk purse out of a sow's ear is the canonical definition of a hopeless task? We could now make it "100% renewable energy" -- provided we exclude nuclear.
One thing I find interesting is that the Bible claims that the snake was the wiliest, most cunning creature in the garden. This really shows how little people knew back then, because there are many cunning creatures in the world, like rats and ravens. Snakes, however, have been known to mistake their tails for another animal and attack aggressively enough to die from their injuries. Snakes are adorkable, confused little noodles.
The serpent is the tempter, so god allows something unholy to be in his "holy" creation. Thus he enables sin and allows temptation. If everything was perfect and adam communed with god, there was peaceful unity. Why did the woman go screw it up by biting the apple? It seems fitting in a sexist way to make eve sin first. Women were lower class in those days. God knew what he was up to by putting a tree. Being omniscient ya know, ...right?!! So he played a direct role in his own creation messing up.Why would he allow the opposite of his holyness to infect his own creation? sin is a construct by god. Even while I was a christian I could not reconcile the god of the bible as something worth believing. He sounded like a petty, petulant, vengeful, egotistical, blood thirsty, angry, malevolent being.
Awesome work, once again. A friend of mine was watching this one and he's a Greek history fan and thought your description of how the 600,000 men likely went up the coast and how that might have worked, made a lot of logical sense to him and he liked it. He liked a lot of what you said here actually and so did I. It really showed the inconsistencies and gaps in logic that truly exist in religion. I see it all the time. Pose a direct and clear question to them and when they can't answer you, they come up with some lame excuse. They are infamous for dancing around shit and dodging things that might disprove their beliefs. Like you said either "whoosh" they are gone or they stick their fingers in their ears and do the "Lalalalalala, I can't hear you". Complete denial and the epitome of cognitive dissonance.
Not everyone runs from questions. I don't. I actually take the time and effort to check out alot of what he says and I find most of what he says biblically speaking , is wrong. The best lie is the one that most looks like the truth.
@@FitnessFactoryOutletQuakertown unlike Aron and apparently you I can speak in specifics, why don't you? What lie have I said? What lie are you referring too?
I was really on fire for God as a teen, until I read the whole Bible and realized it couldn't possibly be the Word of any sort of God that I could either praise or worship. That monster, if it existed, would deserve neither.
Chris sonofPear, many people call Godzilla a monster because it is not natural, and it destroyed a big city full of people. God is not natural, and flooded the whole world, and then came back to personally destroy Soddom, Gamorra, Jericho, etc, etc, etc. And he promises eternal torture to those who don't love him. You can tell me I'm leaving out part of the story, but calling God a monster is emphatically NOT an argument from ignorance. It's an understatement.
Most of our knowledge of the Bible comes from the more famous stories already being part of the culture and the carefully selected and censored highlights that are fed to us from the pulpit. Very few people actually read the Bible with any thoroughness, and so I suspect that reading the Bible is the quickest way for a christian to become an atheist - or at the very least, to abandon theism.
It's not actually necessary to read things like the long lists of genealogy or the songs of Solomon & c, as they have no direct bearing on matters of scriptural dogma. And practically no-one wades through the interminable and stodgy philosophical/theological debate that is the Book of Job. And the heart of christian belief is contained in a mere four gospels, each of which is clearly a re-telling of the previous story with ever-increasing embellishments. I myself have made a thorough reading of the Bible, some chapters multiple times, but I would never claim to have read it from start to finish in its entirety; it's not that kind of a book, it's a collection of writings arbitrarily arranged by various religious councils. Having said that, I can well believe that someone in a very religious family and community would read the whole thing - I mean, its not like their time is just too taken up with studying the theory of evolution, or just science in general, and it probably feels very holy to them to do so... until they read it, that is...
To add onto myself, he may have been the past president, but he is the future of secular religion(logic-based reason/thought) 2:27 a.m. I work tomorrow/today in 8 hours. I'm fucked, aren't I? Leave a comment below, I'll check the polls in about a week's time.
30:30 This is the thing you've said that I think I've internalized the most, how whether something is true has to trump everything else. The turning point in me leaving my religion was that realization that no matter how much i WANTED the claims to be true, no matter how much I was THREATENED WITH PAIN AND DEATH AND SUFFERING FOREVER to coerce me to want it to be true, *all of that was nothing if the claim was false.* No more impacting my decisions than if someone threatened me that the Lorax was angry I was using too many sticky notes.
Even at an early age I could not swallow this story. Was already asking questions that got under the craw of ministers. They did not have the answer when I followed up with the "WHY?". Before the internet (but after Cuneiform writing was invented)
I never believed when I was 10 parents tried taking me to church I went to church camps for my whole teen years never read along with the bible reads and sand and what not cuz it was fun but I n very believed in god. There just not logical proof.
I still resent my parents for getting upset whenever I would ask "why?" in responce to something they expected me to believe just because they said so.
I hear the same argument from Christians over and over again: you're not reading it right. You're reading it out of context. You're ignoring this verse here which says you should/shouldn't do that. Like it's my fault that the supreme being in the universe couldn't write a fucking book that spells out his exact message in language that's impossible to confuse?
Nah, the original authors decided to make it so incredibly difficult to understand just so people like christians could skew it towards their faith whenever most convenient.
What do you mean "provide no evidence?" We literally do it all the time and you just straight up ignore us. Have you even watched ANY of Aron's videos? The Bible is a horrible mess from cover to cover, and of course it doesn't mention Evolution because the drunken authors of that time had no fucking idea what that was. Today, we observe Evolution all the time, and even observe some of the most rediculous results of evolution. The platypus is a mammal that lays eggs, there was revolutionary reform throughout the entire scientific community when that was discovered. And what the hell do you mean "Doctrine inspired by satan?" If god is not real, which he isn't, then Satan is also not real, that CAN be proven, as anything you can say to support your god, we can say to disprove said god. As for one more thing: Science is NOT a religion. Atheism is also NOT a religion. Atheism literally means "Without Theism." Not having something is not the same and having something. Theism is a belief, Atheism is a lack of that belief. So tell me, When you wake up, don't kick yourself because you were fooled by indoctrination, kick yourself because you defended it blindly, without question.
@David Anewman: "The problem is I cannot see evolution anywhere. You don't have to refer to the microscope of a scientist to see evolution. It would be obvious to everyone, but it isn't, because it never happens." ==Well, police detectives haven't seen person X kill person Y, but they gather evidence and take him to court. If the evidence is solid enough, person X goes to jail. "What you fail to realize is that evolution theory is a supernatural doctrine inspired by Satan." ==The majority of the scientists who collect evidence, work in the fields, disagree with you. "The problem is you don't know what evolution is, nor do most people today." ==Biological Evolution is based on a replicator molecule called DNA. The replication process is not perfect and so, changes take place. "The problem is I cannot see evolution anywhere." ==Evolution just means change. I think what you mean to say is that you don't see a dog giving birth to a fish to which my answer is, you will never see that. Evolution is a very slow process. You will never a large rock being eroded into sand grains. You will never see gigantic amounts of sand form. You will never see Pluto orbit the Sun completely. You will never see the date on your computer reach 2100. There are some processes that are extremely slow.
@David Anewman: If you say so. If you or anyone can come up with a better explanation as to ALL the observations made (fossil record, magnetic record, plate tectonic theory, multiple radiometric dating methods, +200,000 layers of snow on the Antarctic continent, the tropical plant fossils found on the Antarctic continent, the genetic record, why we are mammals, why we look like apes, the huge distances between galaxies, spectroscopic determination of presence of elements and their abundance in stars, the KT boundary region, the isotopes with ultra long half lives, ....) then present it to the scientific community and they'll check out your research. It is obvious that you aren't going to convince me by claiming satan is behind science and I am not going to convince you otherwise.
@David Anewman : "Before the flood the world was tropical." ==How do you know there was a flood? "Radiometric dating isn't logical or scientific." ==The experts disagree with you. "We cannot even date a star, what makes you think you can date elements?" ==Stars can be dated. "200,000 layers of snow or ice sheets? Ummhh . . . Snowfall? If the earth were billions of years old, the ice would be 100s of miles deep" ==No, you need to think things through before making such comments. Antarctica was not always located at the south pole. It was part of pangea and it broke off and the undercurrents (magma) dragged it away from the supercontinent. This is why there are tropical plant fossils there. It has been located there for +200,000 y. The annual snowfall is 1 or 2 times a year there. The ice sheets also trap air with it so, this is how they know how the CO2 levels have varied over the ages. "They say its 140,000 years of snowfall. Even at that age, the annual precipitation would make the ice sheets several miles deep." ==Several miles? it is 1.2 miles 1.2 miles = 1.9 km 1.9 km / 200,000 layers = 0.96 mm per year.
This guy Aron is a con man at best he’s a liar and also outright dishonest. He’s like the pied piper and all you who like him are following him to hell.
Not exactly correct, there’s 2 kinds of faith , blind faith and a faith based on evidence. Every time you get on an airplane, you have faith that this big machine is going up to 35000 feet and fly 400 mph and get you where you’re going and get you down on the ground alive. That’s faith , based on evidence. Blind faith is believing something just because someone says to believe it.
When Aron yelled shut up to his phone I wonder if it was his pet dog calling Usually his videos from home the only he yells shut up it's always his big white dog.
13:47 "Hello, Aron? It's Me. I just wanted to thank you for all the good work you do in correcting the bigoted, ignorant people who keep putting words into My mouth. You're making the globe a better place. Keep it up." Back in the days of land lines and long distance charges, this would have been a collect call.
The bible is a fascinating set of books. I'd like it. If people didn't believe it is a goddamn history book! I'd sooner believe Peter Pan were "true" than the bible!
Actually it's a better history book than moral guideline. Isaac Asimov has a two part Guide to the Bible that looks at the historical aspects of it. It's what got me interested in this topic.
Alex; which tribe was where, who was in what city when. Who was fighting who. And so on. And since much of the Bible actually was cribbed from the Babylonians, you have their history mixed in too. If you can find Asimov's Guide to the Bible, it's an interesting read. And remember he was an atheist, so he's not pushing a religion.
I'm, as an agnostic is very happy to see an atheist someone like you Aron, like that of WWF Kali to defend us from religious people bullying us and the atheists.
Hey dude, Brazilian here, I didn't know the American Baptists had sent missionaries to Brazil. Now we have an Evangelical Team and many Christian Parties in the government, most of them are charlatans who earn billions of dollars within their churches.
I discovered something astonishing about a missionary called Daniel Everett, who came to Brazil's Amazon to evangelize the native people. He met a tribe, a race of natives called Pirrarã, who outsmarted him. The Pirrarã are famous and well-known for their somehow limited language and culture. They are unable to believe in anything that hasn't been proven, seen nor witnessed by anyone who's alive in the present. Despite their primitive culture, they have no creation myths nor deities. They do, however, believe in layers of cosmological existence and in spirits present in nature - their interpretation of the natural world, behaviour of plants, animals, clouds and stars. Their sentences can only contain situations experienced by the speaker or witnessed by someone who's been alive during the speaker's life. To the Pirrarã, the Universe always existed. That said, when Everett told them about Christ, they lost interest in his story when Daniel said that he has never seen Jesus, nor knew anyone who did. "They changed me profoundly. I used to be a missionary, now I am an atheist" said Everett about the Pirrarã. To this date, all attempts of converting the Pirrarã have failed miserably. If there's something you can show, they can be convinced, but can't be converted.
The bad thing about the Pirrarã, I think, is that they are too practical. They don't encourage curiosity as other cultures do. You see many cultures making up stories to explain stuff, but not the Pirrarã. They don't ask many questions. They're solely interested in the "here and now", how do we get food, store it, get shelter, etc. Remember when I mentioned that their language is also limited to the here and now? Isn't that a correlation? Does that mean that our thoughts and ideas are also limited by our language?
To the guy who asked the last question (about a rebuttal to Christianity being the oldest religion), that pastor was making essentially a different argument. If you follow that train back, it just goes to "because the Bible says so". Those other religions also make claims about the age of the universe, he is just choosing to go with the claims made in the bible (along with the claims made by those who attempt to date the earth, using the bible). Just ask him how he knows the earth is only 6,000 years old. If the foundation for your argument is because the Bible says so, then anything contrary to that is seen as incorrect.
Hell i want him to gain access to the secret records held in Vatican city. It would be dumb of him to waste his time with them. There is still more hidden knowledge out there.
True, but the "10 Commandments? aren't really a "thing", in the sense the bible is referring to. So, personally, I'll give them a pass on that technicality. Otherwise, the books of the bible themselves would be in violation of the graven image rule. That said, the rule is fucking dumb.
I believe that graven image means that we are not to make up our own beliefs about God. Hence, don't mold him into our likeness or make make him in our image.
I believe that graven image means that we are not to make up our own beliefs about God. Hence, don't mold him into our likeness or make make him in our image.
What are you talking about ? "They" didn't do anything. God gave Moses the tablets with the ten commandments? They were written on the stone by God, arguably so the people couldn't question who wrote them. How stupid would Moses look with two tablets that he scribbled on with a rock ??
I swear to god I'm an atheist! This guy is brilliant, and speaks the truth! Edit .... 8/2022 - Folks, the line "I swear to god I'm an atheist!" ... is an old joke. I gotta ask... is the humor lost on you? It's an oxymoron of sorts. Seems all y'all can't find a kernel of humor there? (Or perhaps, I've missed the humour in your replies) And since we seen to asking the tough questions... Let Ol' Binyon enquire: Is it not "swear to WHOM?"?????? Everyone .. be well, and be cool .... and laugh Love, Binyon
Habar, you'd have to admit, that Atheist live in an alternate reality, propped up by lies. Where fiction is fact and fact a conspiracy theory. And their preferred, biased interpretation of evidence, given to them by their theoretical prophets, justifies the breaking of the God's law that's written on their hearts. And it's why God calls them willfully ignorant. By being stupid on purpose, they can become the god of their own life. Sinning as they feel fit and then excusing their behavior as only a god can. While the willfully ignorant Atheist of this world can seem to succeed, they have a date with the King of King's and the Lord of Lord's, that will not go well for them. And Jesus promises them, there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth when they find out they've traded eternity for the comparative few seconds of this life.
Manna deciphered: Locusts, sitting quietly, unable to fly after the chill of the night and the morning dew. Gather them first thing or they'll warm up, dry off, and fly away. Yum.
mfw christianity is among the YOUNGEST religions it's funny how some of these religions are literally older than some christians say the entire universe is
@@jonathankeen8836 Going by genealogies recorded in the bible Old testament goes back 4000 yrs to Adam, 2000 yrs since Christ = 6000 yrs. The Chinese only goes back 5000, not sure how they arrive at this. As for Hinduism, how would we know how far Hinduism goes back without proper genealogies as a reliable guide, but I think its only about 4000 yrs, some say 1500 B.C which puts it abot 1000 yrs after the tower of Babel. Its a bit misleading to say Christianity is only 2000 yrs old, as its founder Jesus, said He existed before Abraham and being a Jew, Christians recognize they piggy back of the back of Judaism believing all the books from Genesis to Malachi, and that as Jesus taught, the gentiles (non Jewish converts) have only a limited time before the Jews are once again back in the limelight so to speak.
If we take all those genealogies literally, anyway. We also have info that many details in the stories were not compiled until about 1000 BC or later. Like place names, camels in Egypt, and so on...
@@whiskycortomaltes I never said it did, actually your ignorance is staggering, all Christians know they were "grafted in" to the Jewish roots. The genealogies go right back to Adam, name one work of fiction that has genealogies going back more than great grandfather, ?
I absolutely love this guy!! Wish he would have won his district!! We need him and we need his voice amplified!! Shame on the Dems for not supporting him.
@@sureiseeyou I want to publicly apologize. I read the context wrong, and sometimes it can get a bit blurry when you can't hear a tone or if you aren't aware of an implication to a context, things like that. My bad.
"It's a bible that's a collection of books translated 12 times from a book that was translated 12 times that is a collection of stories handed down orally from several versions of traditional tales that come from untranslatable books" That's all you had to say. Every other argument is moot.
@fynes leigh He doesn't need a bloody degree to know that the Bible wasn't written in English, nor to know that even the relatively reliable printing press was much, much later than the writing even of the Gospels. Besides which There's an Assyriologist at the British Museum, who recognised baked tablets in cuneiform as telling a tale remarkably similar to the Genesis Flood story, but slightly less extravagant, and probably cribbed into it by scribes of the Jewish exile in Babylon.
If you believe that about the Bible you very gullible and I got some ocean front property to sell you in the heart of Arizona. 🤪 did you hear that translation stuff from this fool or from another one somewhere else.
@@dannykirby7425 your hilariously dismissive attitude is telling me all I need to know about how worthwhile it would be to respond further to you, but hoping you actually listen, all you would have to do is perform a very, VERY brief bit of research on the bible which will tell you all you need to know. But on the most simple of levels, just know that the original books were retranslated into different dialects within Hebrew, and then into Aramaic then Greek, soon after into Latin, all before a Gothic translation, Ethiopian, and a VAST number of other languages before it was eventually translated into Old English (and all of these had numerous dialectical translations and updates over the several hundreds of years with mistranslations being common as the line copy of the bible in your region may be in a dialect or even language your scribes are not fully fluent in). Then there is the English modified versions like the KJV, the NLB, the NIV, NWT, and an ever-increasing list of translations and updates or modernizing going on (as there always has been) Okay now stop being smarmy and educate yourself.
Can anyone please help me find the translations he refers to around the 19 minute mark about Abortions in the bible. I can't wait to mention it and get kicked out of my church group for it
Something I got a while ago to reply to any christian who says god doesn't want abortions to occur: "It is also noteworthy that while the bible requires the death penalty for 60 specified criminal violations, abortion is not among them. When all relevant documentation is examined, it is obvious that God does not love the unborn and he certainly does not disapprove of abortion. A pregnant woman who is injured and aborts the fetus warrants financial compensation only (to her husband), suggesting that the fetus is property, not a person (Exodus 21:22-25). • The gruesome priestly purity test to which a wife accused of adultery must submit will cause her to abort the fetus if she is guilty, indicating that the fetus does not possess a right to life (Numbers 5:11-31). • God enumerated his punishments for disobedience, including "cursed shall be the fruit of your womb" and "you will eat the fruit of your womb," directly contradicting sanctity-of-life claims (Deuteronomy 28:18,53). • Elisha's prophecy for soon-to-be King Hazael said he would attack the Israelites, burn their cities, crush the heads of their babies and rip open their pregnant women (2 Kings 8:12). • King Menahem of Israel destroyed Tiphsah (also called Tappuah) and the surrounding towns, killing all residents and ripping open pregnant women with the sword (2 Kings 15:16). • Isaiah prophesied doom for Babylon, including the murder of unborn children: "They will have no pity on the fruit of the womb" (Isaiah 13:18). • For worshiping idols, God declared that not one of his people would live, not a man, woman or child (not even babies in arms), again confuting assertions about the sanctity of life (Jeremiah 44:7-8). • God will punish the Israelites by destroying their unborn children, who will die at birth, or perish in the womb, or never even be conceived (Hosea 9:10-16). • For rebelling against God, Samaria's people will be killed, their babies will be dashed to death against the ground, and their pregnant women will be ripped open with a sword (Hosea 13:16). • Jesus did not express any special concern for unborn children during the anticipated end times: "Woe to pregnant women and those who are nursing" (Matthew 24:19). We know that God killed millions of unborn children and their pregnant mothers-to-be in the Noachian deluge, the conquest of Canaan, the incineration of Sodom and Gomorrah and in 20 major slaughters described in the bible. The critical feature of these horrific events is that all people were exterminated. Whenever entire communities were massacred, we can be sure that pregnant mothers-to-be and their unborn children were among the victims. Moreover, there are no stated exemptions for this specific segment of the population."
When you consider contradictions or immorality in the bible, remember that it says in Hebrews 6 18 "impossible for God to lie", or Titus 1:2 "in the hope of eternal life, which God, who cannot lie, promised before time began". So when a theist points out that the bible is the word of god, they're kind of shooting themselves in the foot.
@@TheKyrix82 If he's really omnipotent then it would be impossible for something more powerful to exist. Since he can't create a being more powerful (because he's supposedly omnipotent) then he isn't really omnipotent.
@@mrmoth26 Your logic is wrong That's not because he's omnipotent that it's impossible something more powerful exist And what tell you someone more powerfull exist???
My journey to disbelief in the supernatural started, in grade school, with an article in Ripley's believe it or not on Phineas Gage's brain injury. This sparked the many questions about having a soul. So far no compelling evidence proving the soul has been presented. So without a soul why should I worry about any of the other supernatural claims??
They say that the bible supernatural because its origin is in nature but written by man, The Bible has nothing to do with the unbelievable spooky world of talking snakes but everything to do with law, but still both the atheists and the religious refuse to see this.
As a child my parents allowed me to go to sunday school, at my own request, and they also let me read the books I wanted to, etc. No logical person could possibly believe the bible/koran/etc are factual. I, too, knew that as a small boy! I am so glad my mom and dad never told me what to think.
The Bible the Quran and the Jewish Torah are all important books none of them has anything to do with religion they are explanations of divine law in reverse.
I have personally experienced the strange occurrence of offering scripture to a believer only to have them deny it and then excuse it. My personal favorite example is when I was trying to understand how they believed that noah and his family were able to repopulate the earth, and upon reading the verses that heavily imply they were the only ones on board the ark they insisted that there had to be others. The only possible exception I could find is that God commands he take his house (which could include servants, but goes against later verses that explicitly list the living humans.)
Most people don’t really read what God is saying or take time to understand what’s going on with the Bible. God is concerned with explaining that Jesus is the answer to mankind’s problem of sin. The Bible does not tell us everything about everything that would take 100s of bibles. Jesus came through Noah , that’s the point being made. There could’ve been others on earth somewhere else , just like there could have been other people outside of the garden of eden.
It's so sad that religious believers argue with non-believing or otherwise sceptical relatives. Life's so short and you only get one trip before you turn into compost and are gone forever. Life's too short for religion.
It's TRUE & I know 4 a fact that there's no afterlife & we only got 1 life @ the end of the day all we have 2 do is enjoy life & do positive things thats all
@Michael Kevin Millet But you are the one with the claim. So you need to provide evidence to back it up. Until that happens anyone can simply disregard the idea.
@Michael Kevin Millet it is an observation. Beyond that nothing is verified but this is what we know. If you are saying that there is something after this then you need to explain why.
@Michael Kevin Millet NDEs and similar things are hardly evidence. When the brain is stressed and/or not completely functional there can be all kind of hallucinations. I can't know what you claim to have witnessed but as you have said: Many people claim to have seen something. Not just Christians but Muslims, jews, hinduists and even atheists. They all swear it was what they believed to be true (what you would expect from our psychology). Ask a Hinduist or a Muslim if they saw the God of the bible. What would they answer? The point is that we all see what we want to see (especially when we are not really conscious - like in a dream). That is why science is so important, because there you simply can't ignore what you don't want to see but rather take into account everything you observe. And because science is still conducted by people with biases, etc., peer-reviews are being made to eliminate the influence of our psychological imperfections. What we verifiably observe: living organisms dying and turning into other organic material. What we claim to observe: the stories told by the local priest/pope/religious leader
The bible and the subsequent study of it made me an atheist. So that shit still have a good purpose after all as long you are honest enough to see what is true from what is not.
I like it when people put graven images of the ten commandments in front of courthouses. It's honest. "I have faith, but little understanding of what I have faith in."
Read the Bible, see for yourself, don’t believe this fool Aron or anyone else. Ask God to reveal himself to you before you start reading. Read the Bible not the Book of Mormon.
@@dannykirby7425 I read it. What, do you think I pulled "graven image" from the aether? Y'all know the 2nd amendment, but ya can't learn the 2nd commandment?
@@dannykirby7425 It's not just words. It's an engraved image of the stone tablets. If it were just the words, it'd be a first amendment violation. This still is, but it's also hilariously ironic.
20:41 - usually when religious folk get uppity about abortion, I ask them about wholesale slaughter of living children. Of course they are reviled. Then I refer them to Numbers 31:15-18, in which Moses directly orders the slaughter of the children captured after the Hebrews sacked the city of Midian (thou shalt not covet, steal, kill, etc.). This is usually where they start denying the content of their holy book, drop context, or fly into rages because they can't defend it. 28:05 - Y'ever notice that tobacco, chocolate, potatoes, and yams are never mentioned in the Bible--supposed our "one guide to life" (as has been said to me). Why on Earth (no pun intended) are these important, now world-distributed cash crops totally missing from a collection of stories ostensibly the result of an omniscient being?
Actually this was in response to Midian aggression towards Israel. You omitted this detail so I included it to give it greater context. You made it appear that the incident was arbitrary.
I'd ask them to point out just where in the Bible there is any rejection of abortion, anywhere it is condemned as a sin. Then upon their failure you can point to Numbers 5:11-22 where the Bible does indeed make reference to abortion - when it recommends it and describes the process that should be used! Both Mosaic Law and the Genesis myth assert that life begins with the first breath - the law and custom of Jesus and his contemporaries held that before a child was born ad took its first breath, it was a part of the mother, just like a limb. The "sanctity" of the pre-born is an entirely modern notion which has no foundation in scripture - quite the opposite in fact.
@@noneofyourbeeswax01 I would use the very same passage to deaconstruct your argument. In that the passage in describing the consequences for adultery isn't describing miscarriage or abortion. In fact the passage doesn't even indicate that the adulterous woman even gets pregnant as the result of adultery. You might want to re-read the passage. Your argument therefore fails because you are presupposing that the adulterous woman would become pregnant after sex. If you are familiar with biology then you would realize that the ratio between sex and pregnancy is not 1:1.
@@johnh226 that's strange, all the Jews I've ever spoken to say it's 100% about abortion. My Hebrew Tanakh says, in translation, "He causes your thigh to collapse and your stomach to distend." The baby is referred to a thigh because, until it was born, it was just seen as another part of the woman. that's just what they told me though, so whatever - I don't want to argue, just throwing in my two cents
@@hello-jy9hf Fair enough, however the text itself makes no mention of pregnancy occuring during the act of adultery. It could be that the thigh is just a thigh. My point still remains that to assume this passage is describing a miscarriage or aborted fetus is equal to trying to jump over the grand canyon with a ten speed.
"When a poor man eats a chicken, One of them is sick." "And where in the good book does it say that?" "I don't know but somewhere it says something about the chicken."
I did not know Aron Ra was once a Mormon! I grew up in Utah as a non-Mormon. During childhood, the code for LDS children for non Mo kids: "I can't play with you 'cause you're not in our ward. I secretly quit being a believer in Jr. High. School. My dad's parents immigrated from Crete, so I was forced to go to the Greek Orthodox Church, as soon as they dismissed kids to go to Sunday school, it was time to go anywhere close but Sunday school. There were only two or three of us that dared skip S.S. by noon, all services were over. In the Mo ward down the street, those poor folks were brainwashed all flippin' day long. In the present time, I've come to love Mormons and when the missionaries visit my home I always offer them a cocktail, or bottled water so they know I didn't slip something into the drinks. Maybe I'm a little sadistic, because I love screwing with their heads, the first 2 visits from the missionaries leave them thinking there is some hope of "saving my soul" as it were. On the third visit, I wait til they are on the cusp of believing they've almost caught another fish. Until I tell them the real reason they've covered the expense of their mission and why they have been tricked into doing what they are doing: It's all about the money, and they've been conditioned to appear sinless to attract more suckers.
If I had to guess, different chapters were probably read to the people at different times and places, so it would make sense that in the 21st century the more "brutal" passages have been forgotten.
Starless Trooper lol. the book was deliberately kept in dead languages like latin and ancient greek instead of the local languages being currently used. the leaders knew that rational peasants wouldnt believe that bollocks. the penalty of a non official language bible was death, and many died ... I guess neither realised the lengths that the deluded will go to to maingain their delusions, to the point of not reading the bible... even the modern church says to not read it, unless under the guidance lf some church leader ... lest satan misinterprets the child rape to be bad.
Sinister Sweet, when you said, "Those who don't know their mythology are doomed to misunderstand it." were talking about the morons who believe and have faith in the ancient sun worshipers stationary sun and spinning round Earth, and that NASA's fake space travel is real?
Starless, is that what you zombies call the blue pills? Thanks, but no thanks, I'll stick with real science, the Word of God and reality. None of that theoretical nonsense you blue pill takers believe and have faith in.
I think you're a very engaging speaker. I love how you're opposing the traditional views. I agree the bible holds a lot contradictions & I hate when people cherry pick out of it. I wish they'd just pick the good parts that tell you to be kind to each other etc. I think the one thing I disagree with atheists on is that faith is completely bad. I feel faith is good for mental health, especially when things feel beyond your control. I believe there have been psychological studies done on faith and prayer. (sorry I can't site any) We have funerals to benefit the living more than the dead. It gives those left mental comfort. The problem is that faith is used so much as weapon and a tool for discrimination and fear and control. Anyway, best of luck on the political run. I hope you shake things up.
Faith is not good for your mental health because it forces you to rely on make believe instead of the truth to get you through tough times... it is actually harmful to your mental health
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Reading the bible and knowing the history of how it became the bible is the easiest way to become an atheist.
fynes leigh You're allowed to believe any&all fairy tales you like, don't try to obligate unwilling or more circumspect thinkers to follow your example. Keep your crazy among the like-minded.
@@Chief2Moon there is a living creator!
@@healthyone100 Sure buddy, sure.
Worked for me!
@fynes leigh it's pretty simple. I don't believe in God. Therefore I'm an atheist. I don't quite get what you mean by attention being that this is an atheist TH-cam channel....
"it rained for forty days and forty nights" - a typical summer here in Ireland.
I love the rain. :D
It's very typical here in SW Scotland too! There have been plenty of years I should have seen at least one ark floating past. But, nope.
40 days and nights of rain? Amateurs. I grew up in western Washington.
@@debbiehenri7170 If you go to Ardrossan there are some arks. Well, motor vessels actually.
@@lyrimetacurl0 Ya, a motor on an ark might get you somewhere nice before the waters subside. I'd look for somewhere without Scottish midges.
When the worst crime imaginable is...
.....EATING FROM THE TREE OF KNOWLEDGE. Think about that for a minute
Freelance opportunist perhaps thinking is the problem it's referring to.
It is actually somewhat worse than that. It was the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. So until they partook of the fruit of this tree they could have had absolutely NO conception of right or wrong, good and evil, etc, or the implications of or surrounding the act. And so couldn't actually reasonably be convicted of the "crime" if they had no idea whatsoever. We apparently are better than this deity. We would never imagine or think to blame a child, or someone incapable of the forethought required and an understanding of thier responsibilities and consequences.
Seriously. How does an educated, thinking, feeling, empathetic, reasonable adult NOT see this rather large problem with one of the absolute fundamental aspects of thier whole deal. How reasonably COULD Adam and Eve be justly "convicted"? Therefore the whole fall idea is made morally/ethically bankrupt, instead simply being an appeal to power. Leaving the deity no better than a tyrant, "I'm in charge, I arbitrarily decide and make the rules".
But of course it is EVEN worse.
We KNOW Adam and Eve never actually existed in the first place. hence NO fall ever happened, and thus,no need of an atonement or saviour figure.
law is were a saviour is needed, On one hand, you have divine natural law and the other you have human positive law, human positive law is written and divine natural law is not and that is where the bible comes in. If you're trying to find reason through another mans words or beliefs then you will not.
Barry Turgoose. I'm a bit confused. You say that human positive law is written whereas divine natural law is not, are you saying that the bible isn't divine natural law?
The bible is an attempt to explain divine law in a reverse manner, a book of "should not" if you like. the stoics of the time agreed that law had to have a rational side and an irrational side, human positive law on its own is not tailored to the individual nor the situation, therefore, rendering it unworthy, wereas divine positive law is tailored to the individual and the situation so both work in a juxtaposed manner, The first of the ten commandment's is to remind you that divine natural law came before human positive law, law is located by the will.
thanks for the question.
"God's always behave like the people who create them."
-Zora Neale Hurston
ok then answer this please. Who does your behavior reflect, your parents ? The "left" or "greenies" Did anyone before Jesus ever teach to love their enemies and then while dying in excruciating pain say "father forgive them, they don`t know what they are doing" How is Jesus a figure I created ?
@@r4hnsn "How is Jesus a figure I created ?"
Is "he" going to.... "save" you?...........................................................
Can you speak for whole continents of what they spoke of, r4hnsn? Even India, China, say?
Also, save from who, and ransom from who?
@@r4hnsn Buddha is 500 years before Jesus
''She thinks the computer is just a $1500 deck of cards'' lol
Go Aron! Be a governor of Texas and reform the education system!
@Bobby Allen How so?
The more I listen to Aron the more I admire. I could (and perhaps sometimes do) listen all day.
If the "word of god" is so perfect,
You would think it wouldn't need interpretations
It don't need interpretation in its meaning, the bible interpretes itself. But , as with any language, it is interpreted from one language to another, but God's letters to man is , by design, is made to interpret itself.
@James Harris it is clear to all, but not all wants to hear it. But God gives everyone the light they need, if you want to know God you have to start a relationship with him , and you do that with what you know now, what have you done with what you know? Such as that man is a sinner and is separated from God, and God loves you and wants you to come to Him ? You do that by placing your faith in Jesus.
@Gregisonutube your correct when you say , you are not one of His children, no one is a child of God by being a human being, that's why you must be born again, not of flesh but of spirit, we have to be adopted into the family of God to be a child of God. And the way to do that is open to every human being, put your faith in Jesus, to save you from the wrath to come, which is to be eternally separated from God.
@Gregisonutube you were procreated, from parents, and born with a dead spirit, and with a deadly condition, it's called "sin" and you get the infilling of the Holy Spirit when your "Born Again" that's when God fixes your heart condition from the inside out. Then you are made alive to the spiritual things of God. Put your trust in Jesus and receive the Holy Spirit. And a new life through Christ. Right now you are separated from God. Don't stay there because if you leave your body in that condition you will remain in that condition for eternity. 😰😢 hope you think about this.
@Gregisonutube faith is acting like God is telling the truth, and as if God has spoken directly to you , acting like something is so even when it is not so in order that it might be so ,simply because God said. Faith is not just a word, but faith is an action word that involves action. It is an action in response to God's will.
Why would you elect somebody to secure your future when they don't believe you have one?
I am going to steal that quote.
@fynes leigh how is the future a fantasy?
It wasn't a 100 years ago but their were still people then who claimed their was no future yet here we are.
@Michael Kevin Millet atheists believe you have the rest of your life.
Christian extremists believe that Jesus is coming any day now.
Atheists think that we are all there is, so we must do something about the future because no one else will.
Christian extremists think that Jesus will solve all our problems.
When you're voting for a leader you're voting for someone who is supposed to solve problems. Not sit there and say someone else will.
@Michael Kevin Millet straw manning won't help you.
I have hope for the future because I know the probability of me dying soon is very low.
And you should know by now that politicians never read the Bible. Either that or they lie about it's contents. So quoting the Bible doesn't actually give you a representation of them.
@Michael Kevin Millet now what is the probability of that?
Judging by the rate of people of my age in my economical situation dying I'm gonna guess to low for me to be concerned.
I don't even see your point. Are you trying to make me fit your straw man by making me think death is near?
It won't work because you don't have the statistics to back you up.
Good day sir.
@Michael Kevin Millet you didn't show a statistic. You showed a scenario.
AronRa, I can't hope to find words enough to express my appreciation for what you are saying and doing. You are my hero.
If this guy is your hero , I feel for you. I have checked out some of his biblical stuff and I find most of it is wrong.
@@dannykirby7425 R U homeschooled maybe?
@@large1965 I guess you believe Aron ra line of nonsense. And you ask me if I'm homeschooled? How about checking out what this fool says instead of just following along like another pathetic sheep following the herd?
@@dannykirby7425 He holds a degree in Paleantology from the university of Texas. You may wanna look up what this study entails. Spoiler Alert: It leaves little room for Behemoths, Dragons, Unicorns nor Talking Snakes...
@@large1965 😄😄yes I know, it amazes me how so many people don't understand scripture. And how many say the same kind of nonsense Aron says. For a guy who acts so intelligent and scientifically knowledgeable, he gets almost everything he says wrong. I have been watching some of his videos for about 6 months, just to see how many things he gets wrong and it's alot. Today I don't have time to go into it but look at some of his other videos and you might come across my other comments. He is even wrong on some paleontology. It so wrong that I honestly believe that he knows it's wrong but he don't care as long as he can fool many. The best lie is the one that most looks like the truth.
OLDER RELIGIONS: How about the Egyptian gods (Osiris, Isis, Horus) which were worshipped for two thousands years before Jesus? How about the Hittite storm god Tarhunt who was worshipped as far back as 1600 BC? How about Marduk, who was worshipped in Babylon as far back as 1800 BC? We now think of these beliefs as "myths" but they were full blown state religions in their day. Those peoples were as devoted, and had as much faith in those beliefs as the most fervent modern Christian/Muslim/Hindu, yet those beliefs have all but disappeared from the world. What will people think of today's religions in 1000, 2000 or 10,000 years?
R5d4d2 well no they haven't... The Sumerian god el and his wife asherah... Along with his sons Mot, Marduk and Ba'al all made it into the bible. The old gang is back in business...lol.
El is now Yahweh.. Asherah has the same name. So do the others.
Same religion for the most part. Just that the adherents aren't aware of it.
They would probably see them as primitive as there will no doubt be a religion in the far future that will contain believers that span multiple planets and different intelligent species
That’s right all those religions have disappeared but not God and not the Jews or Christianity and those 2 will never disappear. The small state of Israel is still here and is a world topic almost daily. Why? Most of the places mentioned in the Bible are still around thousands of years later archaeological finds are constantly showing the reliability of the Bible , why? 😂🧐
@@dannykirby7425 "Reliability"? It says these places existed. That's all.
@@iseeundeadpeople9 you should investigate the 100s of thousands of archeological finds related to the Bible. Not just places, but also people and events have been proven to be correct.
Don't cut your hair man, that's definitely you... I wish I had half of your intellect, you are aaaaaawesome!
Keep spreading the knowledge, and eradicating the ignorance!!!! You Rock Aron!!!!
Ironic, Atheists preach the Bible better than Christian pastors. Pastors love to pick and choose what will make people feel good and do what they want, Atheists encourage people to read the book and you learn how appalling it actually is.
holy. shit. that fact about abortion blew my mind. I usually just use the verses about baby slaying when debating abortion but wow. I never realized there was an overt reference to abortions being practiced. thank you for that eye opening information!
"Ask Matt or be near Matt. He'll let you know when I'm wrong." What preacher puts you on the lookout for someone that can correct him? AronRa is a sledgehammer of reason!
Love Aronra
Bro is a legend
"If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people."
- Dr. Gregory House.
I'm not religious like athiests or evolutionists.
i believe the historic facts in the bible.
Michael, sure there are historical truths in the Bible, and you can believe in God while not being religious, but evolution is true, and there's no way at this point to disprove it as a whole. Rejecting evolution and believing in God don't go hand-in-hand, and in fact as Aron points out most Christians accept evolution as well as the historical parts of the Old and New Testaments. Please, do some reading on these topics - they're fascinating.
@@PigglePigSwillbucket sorry to tell you your mistaken as evolution requires more belief than the Bible...for example 21 soil layers were created in 7 seconds when mount saint Helen blew it didn't take millions of years to make them. Another is fossil creation as it requires water and sediment not possible unless animal dies near river or in a flood...and their found all over planet from highest mountains to lowest desert. Plus Marie's discovery of Malable proteins in dinosaur fossils with a Max 10k lifespan and much more
@@hadescerberus8322 well, you're wrong. what does geology have to do with evolution. Do you know that most Christians accept evolutionary theory. Fossil creation does not require water - the fossils in tar in Los Angeles are a good example, as is the Velociraptor-Protoceratops fossil in a sand dune. The Bible has some truth to it like I said, but I personally do not believe in God. God is not part of science, though; instead the God concept is philisophical. Creationism is scientific though, and can therefore be tested, and has failed miserably. Plus, science is all about creating models to accurately predict future data, and creationism does not at all meet this requirement, while evolution has more than met this just in the first 50 years since Darwin and Wallace founded it. By the way, I'm no longer a fan or follower of Aron Ra, the creator of this video. He's far too dogmatic against religion and is plain stupid on issues like the definition of atheism
@@PigglePigSwillbucket while I agree mainstream creationism beliefs are wrong. Doesn't mean Bible is. Now evolution has in no way held up or been validated by any means. Not a single documented case nor any real evidence, all documented mutations are diseases. PS carbon dating is in no way an accurate tool. But in the end geology shows flood, what you don't know is the flood included asteroids,end of dinosaurs, destruction of atmosphere, creation of plate tectonics, creation and separation of pangea, first Ice Age right after flood... And geology of the earth shows this... Through fossils, volcanoes, and an interesting process the earth undergoes when it's tilt reaches 15 degrees. And so much more
I'm liking this man's way of thinking! Pointing out contradictions and so on. This man is "doing the Lord's work"!
I really want him to whip out a guitar and start playing Hall of the Mountain King
propably the heaviest version of that. th-cam.com/video/VWEmsUiQELU/w-d-xo.html
On a guitar?? Nevertheless I once saw in Punch that the fellow who played Rumpole of the Bailey, Leo McKern, played the part of the Mountain King on stage in London. He'd have been marvelous for the part.
That’s what I first thought when I saw him. “Hey look, It’s Jon Olivia”
why?
Funny, I was thinking "King Diamond. Grandma, what was it liiiiiike!?"...
I studied religion from the day I started college to today, so well over 3 decades and during that time I learned that all religions plagiarized from each other. Everyone stole something from another religion and claimed they are the one true religion. Want examples?
1. The great flood - wasn't originally a Christian belief, it came from the Epic of Gilgamesh. Every detail down to the size were stolen from the Epic.
2. Book of Proverbs - Maybe we should really call it what it is, Egyptian Instruction of Amenemope. Though there are still some that might argue this, too many of the proverbs are identical.
3. Garden of Eden - The Persian scriptures speak of a story about how Ormuzd created the world and 2 humans in 6 days and then rested on the 7th. Oh, and the names of the humans were Adama and Evah. They only predate the first bible scriptures by about 300 years since they were made in 10th BC.
4. Angel's and Demons - again the Persians, we'll refer to them as Zoroastrianism were the first to believe in angels and demons, the idea of Satan and the battle between good and evil. They also refer to their prophet Zarathustra as being surrounded by a halo of light...sound familiar?
5. The Trinity - Where does the word trinity come from? Not Matthew 28:19. Judaism is all about monotheism but Catholicism leans towards the idea of a trinity. Would it surprise you to know it likely came from Egyptian mythology with Amun, Re, and Ptah? Or maybe Ishtar, Baal, and Tammuz of Babylonian mythology. Maybe Anu, Enlil and Ea of the Sumerian Mythology. The concept was not original clearly.
6. The Canaanites The bible described the Israelites having destroyed them, yet if you look at Psalms 29, it's so similar to Ulgaritic (the language of the Canaanites) that we have to consider that the Israelites are in fact one in the same.
7. Heaven and Hell - Remember Zoroastrianism (Persians), well, it was them that first spoke of a heaven and hell. It was the Babylonians that spoke of a resurrection and judgment. It was the Persians who coined the word paradise with Mithraism and it was the Norse religion that coined the word Hel and gave the Christians the idea of an afterlife due to their pagan myth. I already pointed out that Sheol means place of dead, but Hades was greek for underworld.
8. Isaiah - the Gathas of Zarathushtra Yasna (Sacred texts of the Zoroastrians) can be attributed to the influence here. Zoroastrianism basically was copied throughout the old testament. Yasna 44.3 :4-5 to Isaiah 40:26. Or maybe we look at Yasna 44.4:1-3 compared to Isaiah 40:12. the list goes on and on.
9. Aspects of the messiah - the pagan aspects of the rituals surrounding Christian celebrations can easily be explained by the fact that these rituals were intended to replace pagan practices, the similarities in philosophy can only be explained through external influence. Consider that the teachings of jesus and the teachings of Buddha, Mithras, and Zarathustra are oddly similar.
10. The Ten Commandments - Let's just say that the ten commandments were not inspired by god, but by the Egyptian Book of the Dead about 1200 years earlier. It might also have come from the Code of Hammurapi about 900 years later. But what do I know...here are some examples:
Book of the Dead: “I have not blasphemed.”
Exodus 20:7: “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that shall take the name of the Lord his God in vain.”
Book of the Dead: “I have not committed adultery, I have not lain with men.”
Exodus 20:14: “Thou shalt not commit adultery.”
Book of the Dead: “I have not stolen.”
Exodus 20:15: “Thou shalt not steal.”
I guess I would be best to include Bart D. Ehrman, the renowned biblical scholar who identified that half of the new testament was written by impostors taking on the names of apostles like Paul. That means the book you think is the word of god, was actually written by a bunch of liars claiming to be apostles and weren't. Feel free to read his book, "Forged".
here are my favorite claims though:
* At least 11 of the 27 New Testament books are forgeries.
* The New Testament books attributed to Jesus’ disciples could not have been written by them because they were illiterate.
* Many of the New Testament’s forgeries were manufactured by early Christian leaders trying to settle theological feuds.
But again, what do I know...I'm only an atheist.
Fascinating...
The trinity is ripped straight out of Hinduism. They didn't even bother changing most of the miracles.
+Are_You_Serious:
I'm sure that various cultures copied from each other:
1. How to make copper. How to make tin. How to make zinc, glass, arrows, spears, swords, shields, etc.
2. How to make cloths
3. How to build houses
4. They copied words from each other and modified them over time (language evolution)
So, it is natural that they copied religious ideas.
The problem is that this stuff happened so long ago, I think it is difficult to tell who copied who. Who was the original?
Were the jews really in egypt? Did they really leave all together at some point?
"4. Angel's and Demons - again the Persians, we'll refer to them as Zoroastrianism were the first to believe in angels and demons, the idea of Satan and the battle between good and evil. They also refer to their prophet Zarathustra as being surrounded by a halo of light...sound familiar? "
==This one is pretty basic. I think different cultures can come up with this notion without copying each other.
So, I doubt your claim.
"Book of the Dead: “I have not stolen.”
Exodus 20:15: “Thou shalt not steal.”"
==This too, it is pretty basic. It is possible for different cultures to come up with "Do not steel, do not kill, do not steel my wife, do not fuck my wife....."
So, I doubt your claim.
As for the flood myth, I would say it is a 100% guarantee that people had contact with each other and copied this idea.
Which leads to the question, what else did they copy from each other's religion?
So informative!
@James Powers Gods like Zeus and Isis existed long before Christianity and the Christian Almighty God. Christianity was a new religion (known as a cult in those days) which claimed that its god is bigger than all the gods of the past and existed before them. This is a clever claim because people want a religion that has a powerful message.
Another clever claim made by Christianity is that God created a good angel called Satan and the good angel became a bad angel and this bad angel (Satan) is responsible for the evil in the world. It's a clever claim because God created this entity called Satan that can be used as a scapegoat to explain why evil exists in the world. It's a clever claim because people no longer blame God for creating such a messed up world; they simply blame Satan for the mess.
Another clever trick used by Christianity is that it urges its followers to have faith and not to ask too many questions because those who too many questions are being influenced by Satan.
Jesus: I will sacrifice myself for you (Ruserrects the third day)
He got tired of being dead
I'd be more impressed if the Crucifixion were a self-imposed punishment for God's cruelty to nearly all living things. I presume that bacteria do not experience pain.
That was the best ending to a speech I've ever heard in my life. It brought a tear to my eye. Truly, a maestro of words.
Thank goodness somebody in Texas is fighting for real education in schools.
I like the talking burning bush..... Damn, this really does seem like a fairytail. Holy shit. Wow.
@fynes leigh or how about not teaching them that homosexuality is a terrible thing and they are terrible people? Does that satisfy you? Or how about that teaching about the studies of sexuality as a whole, and how being homosexual doesnt have some long list of health side effects that religous people have made up? How about teaching about how through out history people have married for procreation and had sex with who ever of either gender that they felt like?
@fynes leigh what I described is letting them form opinions based of what appears to be the way things work
What on earth is " real" education?
You have not the faintest idea?- No surprises there.
@fynes leigh -- "stranger to reason" ... that being said by someone who doesn't even know that homosexuality is a phenomenon that occurs everywhere in nature, can neither be educated 'into' anyone nor 'out of' anyone and has nothing inherently "wrong" to it. Oh, the irony.
By the way, kid, many children who when asking about a homosexual couple are told that "they are just in love as mom and dad are" just go on with their day saying "ok fine". If they are using gay as an insult, it's learned behaviour (as is with all language and style that isn't created from scratch) -- and on the other hand, children like to form groups even more than adults. Or would you say that it says anything important about wearers of glasses that they often get bullied by other children, you ignorant buffoon?
Aron, wishing you all the best in your political career, I hope that even there that there are enough parents who actually care about their child's education to get you into a position to improve it.
Yes
just found this dude here on youtube.. you are so dope my man! keep it up much love
I enjoy your speeches and lectures so much! You are clearly intelligent and well-educated, and have obviously done thousands of hours of research. I would love to have you with me the next time I see my fundamentalist mother and mother in law.
Aron is brilliant, rational and quite knowledgeable. He actually researches the subject and takes time to understand something before having an opinion. I wish everyone takes the same approach before discussing any subject.
@fynes leigh what a pretentious, condescending prick you are! Full of self importance. You'll end up worm food like the rest of us
sidgenocid
No sources no context.
james alexander
What makes him a prick?
I always thought that the Ten Commandments story had a lot of parallels with Joseph smith's whole bit.
A first draft was made, and got destroyed. In both stories, the second draft was not at all like the original. Almost like what happens when people make shit up...
facts about ur mum Yeah, almost.. hmmm....
Moses was written about 1000's of years before Joseph smith.
The bible verses depicting Jesus' resurrection were also supposedly 30 (give or take) years after his supposed "death" where NOTHING was recorded at the time, again until 30-ish years later. You ever hear about "The Telephone Game?" Person 1 tells Person 2 "AAA" (The letters are 'some kind of info') After person 1 and 2 go their seperate ways, person 2 tells person 3 "AAB." It was different, because it wasn't written down first, so person 2 had to go off memory. You see the problem here? Imagine this happening for 30 years before someone decided to write it down anywhere.
Valid observation. However, the point is that Moses' revision and re-creation of the tablets makes the 10 Commandments as obviously NOT divinely inspired as Joseph Smith's revision and re-creation of Book of Lehi that Martin Harris "lost". The big difference between the two is that we know Joseph Smith actually existed, whereas (outside scripture) there is absolutely zero evidence that Moses (or any other Egyptian Hebrews) ever did.
@@SkollTheWerewolf It's tempting to compare the sightings of a resurrected Jesus to the sightings of Elvis after he died.
Huh. Just thought. He was called the King too...
I would love To have à beer and a loooong discussion with that man.
The giant who gives knowledge instead of hoarding it.
Does anyone else get a good feeling while listening to Aron give his speeches? I love his work because it's so grounded in truth, you don't have to filter out bullshit with him. So relaxing and a welcome change from the social norms.
Makes me wana puke
wonderful! and the tattoos brought a real smile to my face, as an army vet with PTSD, I always need a reason to smile, TYVM
"I am more powerful than any god...for i exist"
I'm going to have a sit down with a couple of Christians today who are trying to convert me. One of them supposedly read the Bible 4 times. So it's probably going to be a lot of mental gymnastics from their side because if they've read the Bible and still find it to be logical and satisfactory, then they must be under some form of cognitive dissonance. This is going to be fun, I hope.
They're trained in deceptive tactics with same tired arguments specifically designed to be circular. I'm an atheist and was openly so at a Christian drug rehab in Chico where we did Bible study 8 hours a day. They interpreted the Bible "in the spirit" meaning verses in the Bible could mean one thing one minute then something totally different if the "Holy Spirit" moved you.
fynes leigh you were either joking or on amphetamines...
@fynes leigh Who's your dealer?
fynes leigh is this some kind of weird troll account?
@fynes leigh Did you not know that making a silk purse out of a sow's ear is the canonical definition of a hopeless task? We could now make it "100% renewable energy" -- provided we exclude nuclear.
One thing I find interesting is that the Bible claims that the snake was the wiliest, most cunning creature in the garden. This really shows how little people knew back then, because there are many cunning creatures in the world, like rats and ravens. Snakes, however, have been known to mistake their tails for another animal and attack aggressively enough to die from their injuries. Snakes are adorkable, confused little noodles.
Today we know them as lawyers.
And is God more intelligent than him - or maybe less fussed about outcome?
Lmao
@David Anewman the serpent wasn't satan.
The serpent is the tempter, so god allows something unholy to be in his "holy" creation. Thus he enables sin and allows temptation. If everything was perfect and adam communed with god, there was peaceful unity. Why did the woman go screw it up by biting the apple? It seems fitting in a sexist way to make eve sin first. Women were lower class in those days. God knew what he was up to by putting a tree. Being omniscient ya know, ...right?!! So he played a direct role in his own creation messing up.Why would he allow the opposite of his holyness to infect his own creation? sin is a construct by god.
Even while I was a christian I could not reconcile the god of the bible as something worth believing. He sounded like a petty, petulant, vengeful, egotistical, blood thirsty, angry, malevolent being.
Awesome work, once again. A friend of mine was watching this one and he's a Greek history fan and thought your description of how the 600,000 men likely went up the coast and how that might have worked, made a lot of logical sense to him and he liked it. He liked a lot of what you said here actually and so did I. It really showed the inconsistencies and gaps in logic that truly exist in religion. I see it all the time. Pose a direct and clear question to them and when they can't answer you, they come up with some lame excuse. They are infamous for dancing around shit and dodging things that might disprove their beliefs. Like you said either "whoosh" they are gone or they stick their fingers in their ears and do the "Lalalalalala, I can't hear you". Complete denial and the epitome of cognitive dissonance.
Not everyone runs from questions. I don't. I actually take the time and effort to check out alot of what he says and I find most of what he says biblically speaking , is wrong. The best lie is the one that most looks like the truth.
@@dannykirby7425 the only lies are yours you sad human being.
@@FitnessFactoryOutletQuakertown unlike Aron and apparently you I can speak in specifics, why don't you? What lie have I said? What lie are you referring too?
I was really on fire for God as a teen, until I read the whole Bible and realized it couldn't possibly be the Word of any sort of God that I could either praise or worship. That monster, if it existed, would deserve neither.
You presume much about him. Argument from ignorance?
Chris sonofPear, many people call Godzilla a monster because it is not natural, and it destroyed a big city full of people.
God is not natural, and flooded the whole world, and then came back to personally destroy Soddom, Gamorra, Jericho, etc, etc, etc. And he promises eternal torture to those who don't love him.
You can tell me I'm leaving out part of the story, but calling God a monster is emphatically NOT an argument from ignorance. It's an understatement.
Walt F. Did you really read the whole book from start to finish ???
Most of our knowledge of the Bible comes from the more famous stories already being part of the culture and the carefully selected and censored highlights that are fed to us from the pulpit. Very few people actually read the Bible with any thoroughness, and so I suspect that reading the Bible is the quickest way for a christian to become an atheist - or at the very least, to abandon theism.
It's not actually necessary to read things like the long lists of genealogy or the songs of Solomon & c, as they have no direct bearing on matters of scriptural dogma. And practically no-one wades through the interminable and stodgy philosophical/theological debate that is the Book of Job. And the heart of christian belief is contained in a mere four gospels, each of which is clearly a re-telling of the previous story with ever-increasing embellishments. I myself have made a thorough reading of the Bible, some chapters multiple times, but I would never claim to have read it from start to finish in its entirety; it's not that kind of a book, it's a collection of writings arbitrarily arranged by various religious councils. Having said that, I can well believe that someone in a very religious family and community would read the whole thing - I mean, its not like their time is just too taken up with studying the theory of evolution, or just science in general, and it probably feels very holy to them to do so... until they read it, that is...
Closing statement was perfect: it showed that he's human and that he can both make us think and make us laugh.
10/10 Would listen again
To add onto myself, he may have been the past president, but he is the future of secular religion(logic-based reason/thought)
2:27 a.m. I work tomorrow/today in 8 hours.
I'm fucked, aren't I?
Leave a comment below, I'll check the polls in about a week's time.
Thank You Aron, I am inspired by your intellect and your endless work spreading honest evidence based truth. Your tattoos are awesome.
30:30 This is the thing you've said that I think I've internalized the most, how whether something is true has to trump everything else. The turning point in me leaving my religion was that realization that no matter how much i WANTED the claims to be true, no matter how much I was THREATENED WITH PAIN AND DEATH AND SUFFERING FOREVER to coerce me to want it to be true, *all of that was nothing if the claim was false.* No more impacting my decisions than if someone threatened me that the Lorax was angry I was using too many sticky notes.
Even at an early age I could not swallow this story. Was already asking questions that got under the craw of ministers. They did not have the answer when I followed up with the "WHY?". Before the internet (but after Cuneiform writing was invented)
I never believed when I was 10 parents tried taking me to church I went to church camps for my whole teen years never read along with the bible reads and sand and what not cuz it was fun but I n very believed in god. There just not logical proof.
I still resent my parents for getting upset whenever I would ask "why?" in responce to something they expected me to believe just because they said so.
This was amazing and I wish it had lasted longer. So interesting.
It's fun seeing Aron being so relaxed
I hear the same argument from Christians over and over again: you're not reading it right. You're reading it out of context. You're ignoring this verse here which says you should/shouldn't do that.
Like it's my fault that the supreme being in the universe couldn't write a fucking book that spells out his exact message in language that's impossible to confuse?
Nah, the original authors decided to make it so incredibly difficult to understand just so people like christians could skew it towards their faith whenever most convenient.
What do you mean "provide no evidence?" We literally do it all the time and you just straight up ignore us. Have you even watched ANY of Aron's videos? The Bible is a horrible mess from cover to cover, and of course it doesn't mention Evolution because the drunken authors of that time had no fucking idea what that was. Today, we observe Evolution all the time, and even observe some of the most rediculous results of evolution. The platypus is a mammal that lays eggs, there was revolutionary reform throughout the entire scientific community when that was discovered. And what the hell do you mean "Doctrine inspired by satan?" If god is not real, which he isn't, then Satan is also not real, that CAN be proven, as anything you can say to support your god, we can say to disprove said god.
As for one more thing: Science is NOT a religion. Atheism is also NOT a religion. Atheism literally means "Without Theism." Not having something is not the same and having something. Theism is a belief, Atheism is a lack of that belief.
So tell me, When you wake up, don't kick yourself because you were fooled by indoctrination, kick yourself because you defended it blindly, without question.
@David Anewman:
"The problem is I cannot see evolution anywhere. You don't have to refer to the microscope of a scientist to see evolution. It would be obvious to everyone, but it isn't, because it never happens."
==Well, police detectives haven't seen person X kill person Y, but they gather evidence and take him to court. If the evidence is solid enough, person X goes to jail.
"What you fail to realize is that evolution theory is a supernatural doctrine inspired by Satan."
==The majority of the scientists who collect evidence, work in the fields, disagree with you.
"The problem is you don't know what evolution is, nor do most people today."
==Biological Evolution is based on a replicator molecule called DNA. The replication process is not perfect and so, changes take place.
"The problem is I cannot see evolution anywhere."
==Evolution just means change.
I think what you mean to say is that you don't see a dog giving birth to a fish to which my answer is, you will never see that. Evolution is a very slow process.
You will never a large rock being eroded into sand grains. You will never see gigantic amounts of sand form.
You will never see Pluto orbit the Sun completely.
You will never see the date on your computer reach 2100.
There are some processes that are extremely slow.
@David Anewman:
If you say so.
If you or anyone can come up with a better explanation as to ALL the observations made (fossil record, magnetic record, plate tectonic theory, multiple radiometric dating methods, +200,000 layers of snow on the Antarctic continent, the tropical plant fossils found on the Antarctic continent, the genetic record, why we are mammals, why we look like apes, the huge distances between galaxies, spectroscopic determination of presence of elements and their abundance in stars, the KT boundary region, the isotopes with ultra long half lives, ....)
then present it to the scientific community and they'll check out your research.
It is obvious that you aren't going to convince me by claiming satan is behind science and I am not going to convince you otherwise.
@David Anewman :
"Before the flood the world was tropical."
==How do you know there was a flood?
"Radiometric dating isn't logical or scientific."
==The experts disagree with you.
"We cannot even date a star, what makes you think you can date elements?"
==Stars can be dated.
"200,000 layers of snow or ice sheets? Ummhh . . . Snowfall? If the earth were billions of years old, the ice would be 100s of miles deep"
==No, you need to think things through before making such comments.
Antarctica was not always located at the south pole. It was part of pangea and it broke off and the undercurrents (magma) dragged it away from the supercontinent. This is why there are tropical plant fossils there. It has been located there for +200,000 y. The annual snowfall is 1 or 2 times a year there. The ice sheets also trap air with it so, this is how they know how the CO2 levels have varied over the ages.
"They say its 140,000 years of snowfall. Even at that age, the annual precipitation would make the ice sheets several miles deep."
==Several miles? it is 1.2 miles
1.2 miles = 1.9 km
1.9 km / 200,000 layers = 0.96 mm per year.
Damn I totally wish that Ra and Hitchens has a wonderful conversation!
Damn it is never gonna happen!
This man is wonderful and great!
He is nowhere near Hitchens... Please a little more respect.
This guy Aron is a con man at best he’s a liar and also outright dishonest. He’s like the pied piper and all you who like him are following him to hell.
That was really fun to watch!
Welcome to the big book of pick and mix.
Heads Tails Chex Mix Bible Flavor... blood, sulphur, and lamb chops...
"Faith is something that you believe that nobody in his right mind would believe." archie bunker
I never heard of it that way but now I agree with that 100%
Not exactly correct, there’s 2 kinds of faith , blind faith and a faith based on evidence. Every time you get on an airplane, you have faith that this big machine is going up to 35000 feet and fly 400 mph and get you where you’re going and get you down on the ground alive. That’s faith , based on evidence. Blind faith is believing something just because someone says to believe it.
When Aron yelled shut up to his phone
I wonder if it was his pet dog calling
Usually his videos from home the only he yells shut up it's always his big white dog.
13:47 "Hello, Aron? It's Me. I just wanted to thank you for all the good work you do in correcting the bigoted, ignorant people who keep putting words into My mouth. You're making the globe a better place. Keep it up."
Back in the days of land lines and long distance charges, this would have been a collect call.
The bible is a fascinating set of books. I'd like it.
If people didn't believe it is a goddamn history book! I'd sooner believe Peter Pan were "true" than the bible!
Delon Duvenage Success? Really? Prove it.
Actually it's a better history book than moral guideline. Isaac Asimov has a two part Guide to the Bible that looks at the historical aspects of it. It's what got me interested in this topic.
Alex; which tribe was where, who was in what city when. Who was fighting who. And so on. And since much of the Bible actually was cribbed from the Babylonians, you have their history mixed in too.
If you can find Asimov's Guide to the Bible, it's an interesting read. And remember he was an atheist, so he's not pushing a religion.
I'm, as an agnostic is very happy to see an atheist someone like you Aron, like that of WWF Kali to defend us from religious people bullying us and the atheists.
Good luck on your campaign! Wish I could vote, but I'm in the wrong state.
Whoa, I never put two and two together about the "you will live a long life" being tied to the "we can stone our kids" bit.
"How could you elect someone to secure your future when they don't believe you have one!?" Makes you think...
Man thanks so much for your work. My parents were Southern Baptist missionaries to Brazil. Now at 55, I am finally shaking all the BS.... thx dude!
Hey dude, Brazilian here, I didn't know the American Baptists had sent missionaries to Brazil. Now we have an Evangelical Team and many Christian Parties in the government, most of them are charlatans who earn billions of dollars within their churches.
I discovered something astonishing about a missionary called Daniel Everett, who came to Brazil's Amazon to evangelize the native people.
He met a tribe, a race of natives called Pirrarã, who outsmarted him.
The Pirrarã are famous and well-known for their somehow limited language and culture. They are unable to believe in anything that hasn't been proven, seen nor witnessed by anyone who's alive in the present. Despite their primitive culture, they have no creation myths nor deities.
They do, however, believe in layers of cosmological existence and in spirits present in nature - their interpretation of the natural world, behaviour of plants, animals, clouds and stars.
Their sentences can only contain situations experienced by the speaker or witnessed by someone who's been alive during the speaker's life.
To the Pirrarã, the Universe always existed. That said, when Everett told them about Christ, they lost interest in his story when Daniel said that he has never seen Jesus, nor knew anyone who did.
"They changed me profoundly. I used to be a missionary, now I am an atheist" said Everett about the Pirrarã.
To this date, all attempts of converting the Pirrarã have failed miserably. If there's something you can show, they can be convinced, but can't be converted.
Erick Lopes thx man
I love the internet. I learn something new everyday. When I retired, I learned I was an atheist & a Taoist & now I learned I am a Pirrarã.
The bad thing about the Pirrarã, I think, is that they are too practical. They don't encourage curiosity as other cultures do. You see many cultures making up stories to explain stuff, but not the Pirrarã. They don't ask many questions. They're solely interested in the "here and now", how do we get food, store it, get shelter, etc.
Remember when I mentioned that their language is also limited to the here and now? Isn't that a correlation? Does that mean that our thoughts and ideas are also limited by our language?
To the guy who asked the last question (about a rebuttal to Christianity being the oldest religion), that pastor was making essentially a different argument. If you follow that train back, it just goes to "because the Bible says so". Those other religions also make claims about the age of the universe, he is just choosing to go with the claims made in the bible (along with the claims made by those who attempt to date the earth, using the bible). Just ask him how he knows the earth is only 6,000 years old. If the foundation for your argument is because the Bible says so, then anything contrary to that is seen as incorrect.
I'd like to see AronRa go after the Black Hebrew Israelites.
HELL YES
@testbooster, as a African American male, i would also.
Hell i want him to gain access to the secret records held in Vatican city. It would be dumb of him to waste his time with them. There is still more hidden knowledge out there.
@Michael Kevin Millet Well everyone recorded their lies and truths have been stolen. I'm not fond of religion but I am of historical text.
I'd like to see him actually debate with someone whom 'REALLY' understands scripture. Has he even attempted it ...
I read that a 19th century Christian claimed the serpent was an orangutang.
Crikey.
I could listen to Aron rail against theism and creationism all day.
It's called confirmation bias but mutual masturbation will serve as well, you being a specialist in cinque contra uno.
i love this man's brain
This man is awesome!!!!
"if god wrote one of them [the Bible or the earth] I'm going to believe he wrote the earth"
That might be the best sentence you've ever said.
That’s a stupid thing to say. God didn’t write the Bible. God inspired the Bible to certain men known as prophets to actually pen the words.
Sir I really applaud your efforts to help people actually use their mind.I grew up Christian and ive always had so many doubts and questions....
I'm watching this on Easter Sunday. Blasphemous?
you mean pagan easter holy day
All hail ISHTAR!
Tony Ortiz Are you a Christian? Otherwise, why would you care?
Id love to give that young man a great big grandmotherly hug!
The ironic thing is they make and set up a graven image of the Ten Commandments and don't even see the conflict.
True, but the "10 Commandments? aren't really a "thing", in the sense the bible is referring to. So, personally, I'll give them a pass on that technicality. Otherwise, the books of the bible themselves would be in violation of the graven image rule. That said, the rule is fucking dumb.
I believe that graven image means that we are not to make up our own beliefs about God. Hence, don't mold him into our likeness or make make him in our image.
I believe that graven image means that we are not to make up our own beliefs about God. Hence, don't mold him into our likeness or make make him in our image.
I'm so glad we can take such liberties with the bible. By your approach, we can make the bible say anything we need it to say at the moment.
What are you talking about ? "They" didn't do anything. God gave Moses the tablets with the ten commandments? They were written on the stone by God, arguably so the people couldn't question who wrote them. How stupid would Moses look with two tablets that he scribbled on with a rock ??
I swear to god I'm an atheist! This guy is brilliant, and speaks the truth!
Edit .... 8/2022 - Folks, the line "I swear to god I'm an atheist!" ... is an old joke. I gotta ask... is the humor lost on you? It's an oxymoron of sorts.
Seems all y'all can't find a kernel of humor there?
(Or perhaps, I've missed the humour in your replies)
And since we seen to asking the tough questions... Let Ol' Binyon enquire: Is it not "swear to WHOM?"??????
Everyone .. be well, and be cool .... and laugh
Love,
Binyon
the only truth he spoke was when he quoted the facts in the bible the rest is BS
Swear to who?
Facts can be soooo inconvenient :P
fsm1965 Buuuu MUHHHH HUUULLLYYYY BUUUUUUUUUUKKKKKKKKK
The great juju will torture you forever. ;)
fsm1965 Not ALTERNATIVE facts!
fsm 1965, people who believe and have faith that the Earth is round and spinning hate facts and real science.
Habar, you'd have to admit, that Atheist live in an alternate reality, propped up by lies. Where fiction is fact and fact a conspiracy theory. And their preferred, biased interpretation of evidence, given to them by their theoretical prophets, justifies the breaking of the God's law that's written on their hearts. And it's why God calls them willfully ignorant. By being stupid on purpose, they can become the god of their own life. Sinning as they feel fit and then excusing their behavior as only a god can.
While the willfully ignorant Atheist of this world can seem to succeed, they have a date with the King of King's and the Lord of Lord's, that will not go well for them.
And Jesus promises them, there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth when they find out they've traded eternity for the comparative few seconds of this life.
Manna deciphered: Locusts, sitting quietly, unable to fly after the chill of the night and the morning dew. Gather them first thing or they'll warm up, dry off, and fly away. Yum.
Dear Jillian, did you know that the locust is the only invertebrate that it is kosher to eat?
I quite admire that exception.
Aron, I'm glad I found you.
We think very much alike.
Thanks.
Well, the bible is pretty much the 1st century edition of "Where's Wally?" So-
mfw christianity is among the YOUNGEST religions
it's funny how some of these religions are literally older than some christians say the entire universe is
which religion is older then 6,000 years?
Hinduism I think
@@jonathankeen8836 Going by genealogies recorded in the bible Old testament goes back 4000 yrs to Adam, 2000 yrs since Christ = 6000 yrs. The Chinese only goes back 5000, not sure how they arrive at this. As for Hinduism, how would we know how far Hinduism goes back without proper genealogies as a reliable guide, but I think its only about 4000 yrs, some say 1500 B.C which puts it abot 1000 yrs after the tower of Babel.
Its a bit misleading to say Christianity is only 2000 yrs old, as its founder Jesus, said He existed before Abraham and being a Jew, Christians recognize they piggy back of the back of Judaism believing all the books from Genesis to Malachi, and that as Jesus taught, the gentiles (non Jewish converts) have only a limited time before the Jews are once again back in the limelight so to speak.
If we take all those genealogies literally, anyway.
We also have info that many details in the stories were not compiled until about 1000 BC or later. Like place names, camels in Egypt, and so on...
@@whiskycortomaltes I never said it did, actually your ignorance is staggering, all Christians know they were "grafted in" to the Jewish roots.
The genealogies go right back to Adam, name one work of fiction that has genealogies going back more than great grandfather, ?
Another great talk Aron. Thanks
They were eating bird bread or some shit... LMAO..
I absolutely love this guy!! Wish he would have won his district!! We need him and we need his voice amplified!! Shame on the Dems for not supporting him.
Aron is a dem lol.
@@create8079 I didn't say that at all... I said the Dems wouldn't support him. Reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
@@sureiseeyou I want to publicly apologize. I read the context wrong, and sometimes it can get a bit blurry when you can't hear a tone or if you aren't aware of an implication to a context, things like that. My bad.
"It's a bible that's a collection of books translated 12 times from a book that was translated 12 times that is a collection of stories handed down orally from several versions of traditional tales that come from untranslatable books"
That's all you had to say. Every other argument is moot.
@fynes leigh He doesn't need a bloody degree to know that the Bible wasn't written in English, nor to know that even the relatively reliable printing press was much, much later than the writing even of the Gospels.
Besides which There's an Assyriologist at the British Museum, who recognised baked tablets in cuneiform as telling a tale remarkably similar to the Genesis Flood story, but slightly less extravagant, and probably cribbed into it by scribes of the Jewish exile in Babylon.
If you believe that about the Bible you very gullible and I got some ocean front property to sell you in the heart of Arizona. 🤪 did you hear that translation stuff from this fool or from another one somewhere else.
@@dannykirby7425 your hilariously dismissive attitude is telling me all I need to know about how worthwhile it would be to respond further to you, but hoping you actually listen, all you would have to do is perform a very, VERY brief bit of research on the bible which will tell you all you need to know. But on the most simple of levels, just know that the original books were retranslated into different dialects within Hebrew, and then into Aramaic then Greek, soon after into Latin, all before a Gothic translation, Ethiopian, and a VAST number of other languages before it was eventually translated into Old English (and all of these had numerous dialectical translations and updates over the several hundreds of years with mistranslations being common as the line copy of the bible in your region may be in a dialect or even language your scribes are not fully fluent in).
Then there is the English modified versions like the KJV, the NLB, the NIV, NWT, and an ever-increasing list of translations and updates or modernizing going on (as there always has been)
Okay now stop being smarmy and educate yourself.
@@dannykirby7425 You're just trolling I hope.
Can anyone please help me find the translations he refers to around the 19 minute mark about Abortions in the bible.
I can't wait to mention it and get kicked out of my church group for it
Get educated
@@aturchomicz821 Its in the NIV for one.
Something I got a while ago to reply to any christian who says god doesn't want abortions to occur:
"It is also noteworthy that while the bible requires the death penalty for 60 specified criminal violations, abortion is not among them. When all relevant documentation is examined, it is obvious that God does not love the unborn and he certainly does not disapprove of abortion.
A pregnant woman who is injured and aborts the fetus warrants financial compensation only (to her husband), suggesting that the fetus is property, not a person (Exodus 21:22-25).
• The gruesome priestly purity test to which a wife accused of adultery must submit will cause her to abort the fetus if she is guilty, indicating that the fetus does not possess a right to life (Numbers 5:11-31).
• God enumerated his punishments for disobedience, including "cursed shall be the fruit of your womb" and "you will eat the fruit of your womb," directly contradicting sanctity-of-life claims (Deuteronomy 28:18,53).
• Elisha's prophecy for soon-to-be King Hazael said he would attack the Israelites, burn their cities, crush the heads of their babies and rip open their pregnant women (2 Kings 8:12).
• King Menahem of Israel destroyed Tiphsah (also called Tappuah) and the surrounding towns, killing all residents and ripping open pregnant women with the sword (2 Kings 15:16).
• Isaiah prophesied doom for Babylon, including the murder of unborn children: "They will have no pity on the fruit of the womb" (Isaiah 13:18).
• For worshiping idols, God declared that not one of his people would live, not a man, woman or child (not even babies in arms), again confuting assertions about the sanctity of life (Jeremiah 44:7-8).
• God will punish the Israelites by destroying their unborn children, who will die at birth, or perish in the womb, or never even be conceived (Hosea 9:10-16).
• For rebelling against God, Samaria's people will be killed, their babies will be dashed to death against the ground, and their pregnant women will be ripped open with a sword (Hosea 13:16).
• Jesus did not express any special concern for unborn children during the anticipated end times: "Woe to pregnant women and those who are nursing" (Matthew 24:19).
We know that God killed millions of unborn children and their pregnant mothers-to-be in the Noachian deluge, the conquest of Canaan, the incineration of Sodom and Gomorrah and in 20 major slaughters described in the bible. The critical feature of these horrific events is that all people were exterminated. Whenever entire communities were massacred, we can be sure that pregnant mothers-to-be and their unborn children were among the victims. Moreover, there are no stated exemptions for this specific segment of the population."
Additionally, Aron Ra did a lecture that goes into a bit more depth on the verses too. I believe it is called Biblical Family Values.
Here it is: th-cam.com/video/bldw8X5apnY/w-d-xo.html
When you consider contradictions or immorality in the bible, remember that it says in Hebrews 6 18 "impossible for God to lie", or Titus 1:2 "in the hope of eternal life, which God, who cannot lie, promised before time began". So when a theist points out that the bible is the word of god, they're kind of shooting themselves in the foot.
I would just point out that God made humans more powerful than he is. We can do things that he can't
@@TheKyrix82 If he's really omnipotent then it would be impossible for something more powerful to exist. Since he can't create a being more powerful (because he's supposedly omnipotent) then he isn't really omnipotent.
@@mrmoth26 wait do you actually believe what you write?
@@2002THEBOY Yes, because it's correct.
@@mrmoth26 Your logic is wrong
That's not because he's omnipotent that it's impossible something more powerful exist
And what tell you someone more powerfull exist???
Aron Ra I don't know where you are in your political campaign, but you almost make me consider moving to Texas just so I can vote for you locally
My journey to disbelief in the supernatural started, in grade school, with an article in Ripley's believe it or not on Phineas Gage's brain injury. This sparked the many questions about having a soul. So far no compelling evidence proving the soul has been presented. So without a soul why should I worry about any of the other supernatural claims??
They say that the bible supernatural because its origin is in nature but written by man, The Bible has nothing to do with the unbelievable spooky world of talking snakes but everything to do with law, but still both the atheists and the religious refuse to see this.
What law has the bible to do with?
As a child my parents allowed me to go to sunday school, at my own request, and they also let me read the books I wanted to, etc. No logical person could possibly believe the bible/koran/etc are factual. I, too, knew that as a small boy! I am so glad my mom and dad never told me what to think.
The Bible the Quran and the Jewish Torah are all important books none of them has anything to do with religion they are explanations of divine law in reverse.
I guess that would make the new testament a "Writ of Habeas Corpus."
Religion (any and all) is the root of all evil! MAN created god in HIS own image!
I have personally experienced the strange occurrence of offering scripture to a believer only to have them deny it and then excuse it. My personal favorite example is when I was trying to understand how they believed that noah and his family were able to repopulate the earth, and upon reading the verses that heavily imply they were the only ones on board the ark they insisted that there had to be others. The only possible exception I could find is that God commands he take his house (which could include servants, but goes against later verses that explicitly list the living humans.)
Most people don’t really read what God is saying or take time to understand what’s going on with the Bible. God is concerned with explaining that Jesus is the answer to mankind’s problem of sin. The Bible does not tell us everything about everything that would take 100s of bibles. Jesus came through Noah , that’s the point being made. There could’ve been others on earth somewhere else , just like there could have been other people outside of the garden of eden.
It's so sad that religious believers argue with non-believing or otherwise sceptical relatives. Life's so short and you only get one trip before you turn into compost and are gone forever. Life's too short for religion.
Life's too short for petty existentialism.
It's TRUE & I know 4 a fact that there's no afterlife & we only got 1 life @ the end of the day all we have 2 do is enjoy life & do positive things thats all
@Michael Kevin Millet But you are the one with the claim. So you need to provide evidence to back it up. Until that happens anyone can simply disregard the idea.
@Michael Kevin Millet it is an observation. Beyond that nothing is verified but this is what we know. If you are saying that there is something after this then you need to explain why.
@Michael Kevin Millet NDEs and similar things are hardly evidence. When the brain is stressed and/or not completely functional there can be all kind of hallucinations.
I can't know what you claim to have witnessed but as you have said: Many people claim to have seen something. Not just Christians but Muslims, jews, hinduists and even atheists. They all swear it was what they believed to be true (what you would expect from our psychology). Ask a Hinduist or a Muslim if they saw the God of the bible. What would they answer?
The point is that we all see what we want to see (especially when we are not really conscious - like in a dream). That is why science is so important, because there you simply can't ignore what you don't want to see but rather take into account everything you observe. And because science is still conducted by people with biases, etc., peer-reviews are being made to eliminate the influence of our psychological imperfections.
What we verifiably observe: living organisms dying and turning into other organic material.
What we claim to observe: the stories told by the local priest/pope/religious leader
Excellent, a very humorous and engaging video, I don't think I've ever seen Aron so ebullient before, laughter suits him.
Fierfek1972 He certainly takes his job very seriously, but I agree him being chill and relaxed is much more fun to watch
Hitch was never seen to laugh much either , but when he did it suited him too.
He’s like a satanic Santa Claus 😄
Fierfek1972 Agreed!
Satan Claus, even. :p
I love this channel, your videos are amazing
that was awesome what a great lot of info and facts
The bible and the subsequent study of it made me an atheist. So that shit still have a good purpose after all as long you are honest enough to see what is true from what is not.
Was a believer at one time. More i read, less i believed.
A major problem i hv, especially, in the South is this. People whom have never read or studied the bible, teach others about the bible.
You’re exactly correct. That’s a problem everywhere not just in the south.
More people need to see this man,,very interesting and refreshing
I like it when people put graven images of the ten commandments in front of courthouses.
It's honest.
"I have faith, but little understanding of what I have faith in."
Read the Bible, see for yourself, don’t believe this fool Aron or anyone else. Ask God to reveal himself to you before you start reading. Read the Bible not the Book of Mormon.
That is a major problem i have with my family.
@@dannykirby7425 I read it. What, do you think I pulled "graven image" from the aether? Y'all know the 2nd amendment, but ya can't learn the 2nd commandment?
There’s a big difference in a “ graven image” and engraving words. 🧐😵💫😜
@@dannykirby7425 It's not just words. It's an engraved image of the stone tablets.
If it were just the words, it'd be a first amendment violation. This still is, but it's also hilariously ironic.
20:41 - usually when religious folk get uppity about abortion, I ask them about wholesale slaughter of living children. Of course they are reviled. Then I refer them to Numbers 31:15-18, in which Moses directly orders the slaughter of the children captured after the Hebrews sacked the city of Midian (thou shalt not covet, steal, kill, etc.). This is usually where they start denying the content of their holy book, drop context, or fly into rages because they can't defend it.
28:05 - Y'ever notice that tobacco, chocolate, potatoes, and yams are never mentioned in the Bible--supposed our "one guide to life" (as has been said to me). Why on Earth (no pun intended) are these important, now world-distributed cash crops totally missing from a collection of stories ostensibly the result of an omniscient being?
Actually this was in response to Midian aggression towards Israel. You omitted this detail so I included it to give it greater context. You made it appear that the incident was arbitrary.
I'd ask them to point out just where in the Bible there is any rejection of abortion, anywhere it is condemned as a sin. Then upon their failure you can point to Numbers 5:11-22 where the Bible does indeed make reference to abortion - when it recommends it and describes the process that should be used!
Both Mosaic Law and the Genesis myth assert that life begins with the first breath - the law and custom of Jesus and his contemporaries held that before a child was born ad took its first breath, it was a part of the mother, just like a limb. The "sanctity" of the pre-born is an entirely modern notion which has no foundation in scripture - quite the opposite in fact.
@@noneofyourbeeswax01
I would use the very same passage to deaconstruct your argument. In that the passage in describing the consequences for adultery isn't describing miscarriage or abortion. In fact the passage doesn't even indicate that the adulterous woman even gets pregnant as the result of adultery. You might want to re-read the passage. Your argument therefore fails because you are presupposing that the adulterous woman would become pregnant after sex. If you are familiar with biology then you would realize that the ratio between sex and pregnancy is not 1:1.
@@johnh226 that's strange, all the Jews I've ever spoken to say it's 100% about abortion. My Hebrew Tanakh says, in translation, "He causes your thigh to collapse and your stomach to distend." The baby is referred to a thigh because, until it was born, it was just seen as another part of the woman.
that's just what they told me though, so whatever - I don't want to argue, just throwing in my two cents
@@hello-jy9hf
Fair enough, however the text itself makes no mention of pregnancy occuring during the act of adultery. It could be that the thigh is just a thigh. My point still remains that to assume this passage is describing a miscarriage or aborted fetus is equal to trying to jump over the grand canyon with a ten speed.
"When a poor man eats a chicken, One of them is sick."
"And where in the good book does it say that?"
"I don't know but somewhere it says something about the chicken."
Feat of the leaven bread is Passover and weeks is the holiday of Shavuot which is also still celebrated
I freaking love this man!
I did not know Aron Ra was once a Mormon! I grew up in Utah as a non-Mormon. During childhood, the code for LDS children for non Mo kids: "I can't play with you 'cause you're not in our ward. I secretly quit being a believer in Jr. High. School. My dad's parents immigrated from Crete, so I was forced to go to the Greek Orthodox Church, as soon as they dismissed kids to go to Sunday school, it was time to go anywhere close but Sunday school. There were only two or three of us that dared skip S.S. by noon, all services were over. In the Mo ward down the street, those poor folks were brainwashed all flippin' day long. In the present time, I've come to love Mormons and when the missionaries visit my home I always offer them a cocktail, or bottled water so they know I didn't slip something into the drinks. Maybe I'm a little sadistic, because I love screwing with their heads, the first 2 visits from the missionaries leave them thinking there is some hope of "saving my soul" as it were. On the third visit, I wait til they are on the cusp of believing they've almost caught another fish. Until I tell them the real reason they've covered the expense of their mission and why they have been tricked into doing what they are doing: It's all about the money, and they've been conditioned to appear sinless to attract more suckers.
If I had to guess, different chapters were probably read to the people at different times and places, so it would make sense that in the 21st century the more "brutal" passages have been forgotten.
Starless Trooper Those who don't know their mythology are doomed to misunderstand it.
Starless Trooper lol. the book was deliberately kept in dead languages like latin and ancient greek instead of the local languages being currently used. the leaders knew that rational peasants wouldnt believe that bollocks. the penalty of a non official language bible was death, and many died ... I guess neither realised the lengths that the deluded will go to to maingain their delusions, to the point of not reading the bible... even the modern church says to not read it, unless under the guidance lf some church leader ... lest satan misinterprets the child rape to be bad.
Sinister Sweet, when you said, "Those who don't know their mythology are doomed to misunderstand it." were talking about the morons who believe and have faith in the ancient sun worshipers stationary sun and spinning round Earth, and that NASA's fake space travel is real?
@Isaiah40:22
Please take your Quetiapine on a regular basis.
Starless, is that what you zombies call the blue pills? Thanks, but no thanks, I'll stick with real science, the Word of God and reality. None of that theoretical nonsense you blue pill takers believe and have faith in.
Thank you and thumbs up.
I think you're a very engaging speaker. I love how you're opposing the traditional views. I agree the bible holds a lot contradictions & I hate when people cherry pick out of it. I wish they'd just pick the good parts that tell you to be kind to each other etc. I think the one thing I disagree with atheists on is that faith is completely bad. I feel faith is good for mental health, especially when things feel beyond your control. I believe there have been psychological studies done on faith and prayer. (sorry I can't site any) We have funerals to benefit the living more than the dead. It gives those left mental comfort. The problem is that faith is used so much as weapon and a tool for discrimination and fear and control. Anyway, best of luck on the political run. I hope you shake things up.
Faith is not good for your mental health because it forces you to rely on make believe instead of the truth to get you through tough times... it is actually harmful to your mental health
Thank you Sir 👍
This guy is awesome.
Keep up the Great Work Aron!