I love the Sicily idea. Another theater that I would love to see is the Spanish Civil War. The Republicans and Soviets had some nice high performance biplanes like the I-15, NI-52, and the Br.19. They could also get birds like the ANT-40. The nationalists could get planes like the BF-109 C-1, early Ju-87s, the CR.32, and the SM.79. I would love a very early 109. They could do a lot with the Spanish Civil War.
I am a Finn so I am quite biased but I think Finnish-Russian front might be interesting for others as well. Finland had kind a weird mix of planes including version of Brewster Buffalos, Morare-Sauniers, BF-109s, Blennheims and so on. Also Russian side had plenty of their own planes plus Air-cobras and other western planes.
until they have more navy stuff , will not see any pacific content, hence why Sicily is a good leadin to start building on navy stuff. pretty sure pacific will not be next thing they do. They said they want to already, but its not going to be the next thing they do sadly, That is almost a fact.... They also stated they need more info on planes to do that content, They will keep building on current assets , and something like Sicily would be a lot easier to start will , and a better primer for Pacific with more navy stuff being made.
@@schobesbergerf I love my Corsair. Got to have it, got to have it! It cannot be considered a complete WWII game in the end if the Corsair is missing. It is such a beauty, a true seabird, and it is very iconic and extraordinarily well built. That plane could maneuver so well for something that large and heavy and it could cruise at incredible speeds. When pushed it performed like a dragon. It spewed lead and ripped stuff out of the sky.
Not gonna happen, deal with it. Not popular enough, new theatre is out of question since devs would have to building everything from the start. New assets, new units etc. They already spend tons of time doing to for the west 1944. Making all this just for one scenario is impossible. New expansion will be 99% west 1944/45, east 1944/1945 or finally Pacific.
I think it's possible, you have the German aircraft, add in a few more Italian and a few early model spits, gladiators and hurris and that's Malta sorted. Good sized map with huge history in regards to aviation. That's what I want to see!
@@nprules111 That makes no sense. Add few more? Every expansion has 10 planes, they will have to make 10 planes anyway. And not to mention that axis would spawn 100km away from malta. This is suicide for game, lots of people cries that they have to fly 10min to combat zone, with malta it would be 20-30min one way. And like I said, Malta would require completely different assets that this games does not have. Devs are not EA with millions of $. You will get east/west 44/45 or pacific. I can assure you. Other stuff has no chance in at least 5 years with 3 already announced Pacific expansions. Midway, Okinawa and something else I don't remember. Most likely New guinea would join this list. If you follow this series and what devs do and say, you would know anything else is just impossible.
The battle of France will be a gret idea with the D-520 and the Potez 631. But I think a battle of Kalkin Gol or the battle of China with early zeros and Ki-43 and even Ki-61.
I personally think they should just mesh cliffs of Dover into the great battles series with some tweaks and improvements. I also agree that the blitz into France and Sicily would be pretty awesome to have, neither of these battles get very much attention
Skyace 95 cliffs of dover will have many problems to convert map, aircrafts etc to great battles i think, so you better not bet on it. It’s like situation with RoF and flying circus, unnecessary extra work
different development team , totally different engine, not going to happen. COD came from il-2 1946 and Il-2 GB game from Rise Of Flight game engines. why would they compete with each other , from business point of view that would be silly. there is no $ value compared to expanding what a new theme will be... COD and IL-2 GB do share same publisher only. The $ is all about new content , not rehashing old content. The only reason ROF was ported to GB's updated engine as Flying Circus is its same dev and based on same engine.
Magz, as a longtime player of IL-2 and tester, I would like to add some things. First off, the expansion planes were indeed leaked at the Virpil conference, but IAmNotARobot (developer) later mentioned it on the Russian side of the IL-2 forums. You might not be excited for the Yak-9 because of how many we already have, but this is a plane the community has been asking for over the course of the last few years. Secondly, when it comes to development cycles, 1CGS has taken much longer with Bodenplatte. This is due to changing some things in the engine which they previously said would not be possible, such as: extending aircraft view distances. They also had to build many of the physics for turbosuperchargers, jets, and high speed physics. And even after the main development cycle of a game is complete, there is usually some down time where the collector aircraft are being made. We don't know when this will happen because of the additional updates for TC and FC1. Lastly, we don't know what the next expansion will be. If you take the Pacific out of the question, I recall Han saying he wanted to do Korea. Other than that, they are very secretive with what their plans are, and what they are currently working on. Although, I personally would love the Battle of France. I think it has some neat aircraft, and also it would add the possibility of adding some sections of the channel that can be reused in a later FC map.
Ive never seen a dedicated Korean War Sim since "Forgotten War" from the early 2000's Id love if IL2 did that. Not just thr Sabres and the MiGs like DCS. P51Ds, Corsairs, Sea Tempests, Fireflys, Yaks-9 and La-11s Tu-2, A-26 and the Late Meteors (etc.). They could even introduce the entire peninsula. Maybe I'm asking too much but a boy can dream.
I cannot express how much I would love a Korean War era Battle. Build on what they did with jet engines mixed with some interesting super props. But Sicily would make for some interesting aircraft.
It would be incredible. Itd probably be like 5 years from now minimum but once WWII is well fleshed out they could probably just release a mod API and outsource some development to other trusted companies so they could begin work on the trans-sonic jet era.
Would that work as a PvP map? There were SOME early war dogfighs againsts yak9, la9 and il10's and later of course the mig's but i feel like i wouldn't quite work because in the korean war it was mostly CAS, intercepting convoys, bombing bridges etc here's a good LONG read if you're interested: media.defense.gov/2010/May/26/2001330297/-1/-1/0/AFD-100526-045.pdf
What so you guys think about the Winter War? I see lots of fun aircraft pitted against each other. Like Brewster Buffalo, Hurricane, I-153, TB-3, Macchi 200 and many others!
I think there are good chances of the Pacific coming next. However if that isn't the case an Italian scenario would be my personal preference, another good feature of this theater to help future development for the Pacific is that it has carrier operations, with the British carriers operating Martlets, Seafires, etc
With the first dev videos of BoBP's final three aircraft and map out Link: th-cam.com/video/13EsgPaRQpE/w-d-xo.html It's time to ask the big question, What's next? Where will the next expansion take us? For reference, the current full IL-2 aircraft lineup (not including the leak) Germany Bf 109 E-7 Bf 109 F-2 Bf 109 F-4 Bf 109 G-2 Bf 109 G-4 Bf 109 G-6 Bf 109 G-14 Bf 109 K-4 Focke-Wulf 190 A-3 Fw 190 A-5 Fw 190 A-8 Fw 190 D-9 Me 262 Bf 110 E-2 Bf 110 G-2 Ju 88 A-4 Ju 87 D-3 He 111 H-6 He 111 H-16 Hs 129 B-2 Ju 52/?m Russia I-16 Type 24 MiG-3 Series 24 IL-2 AM-38 (model 1941) IL-2 AM-38 (model 1942) IL-2 AM-38F (model 1943) Pe-2 Series 35 Pe-2 Series 87 LaGG-3 Series 29 Yak-1 Series 69 Yak-1b Series 127 Yak-7b Series 36 La-5 Series 8 La-5FN Series 2 USA P-38J Lightning P-51D P-47D P-40E-1 P-39L-1 A-20B Brittain Spitfire Mk.V? Spitfire Mk.IX Tempest Mk.V Italy MC.202 Battle of Moscow: 2 October 1941 - 7 January 1942 Battle of Stalingrad: 23 August 1942 - 2 February 1943 Battle of Kuban: 1 January - 9 October 1943 Battle of Bodenplatte (Battle of the Bulge) 16 December 1944 - 25 January 1945
The Battle of France could potentially bring a large map that includes the low countries. So besides adding French aircraft, it might be possible to see some of the Fokker designs the Dutch Air Force used in the early war. While interesting, not sure if that would be likely.
It's not only unlikely but also pretty much impossible. People can't realize that this is small team with limited founds. And they except stuff like France 1940, Africa etc. All this requires completely new assets to make, literally everything. Different building, vehicles, trees etc. They already did that for west 1944/45. There is just no way they are going to waste so much $ on doing it again, unless it's Pacific that is suppose to get much more expansions in that area. Something random like battle of France just not going to happen.
@@MatJan86 actually No the modders did IT for the old Forgotten Battles series, even before the mods. Although Like the pre mods Malta campaigns some make believe was required, though not as much. (After all the original The Battle of Malta campaign used the Guam Mao iirc)
Winter War in Finland with I-15 I-15 bis I-16 I-16bis I-153 DB-2 DB-3 and TB3s for Russia and Gloster Gladiator II, Morane-Saulnier M.S.406, Brewster F2A Buffalo, Fiat G.50 , Bristol Bulldog Mk. IVA Fokker D.XXI and Bristol Blenheims for Finland Tanks Finland BT-42 Renault FT Vickers 6 ton Russia T26, T 28 BTs Oh FYI Metors F3 of 616 squadian not only crossed the channel but were based in Belgium in Jan 45, by March they had moved to Holland and in April were based in Germany
If we're operating under the assumption that the PTO is after whatever comes next, then they might go CBI. There would be some limited naval stuff for them to practice on, but the CBI also spans literally the entirety of WWII. They could use it as a jumping off point for any era of the PTO in terms of aircraft and ground assets. Many of the allied aircraft that are already in the game would fit right into the CBI as well. The existing P-40, P-39, P-47, P-38, Spitfire, etc. would allow them to front-load the module with ready-to-go allied types so they can focus on the Japanese aircraft. Since carriers weren't involved in the CBI much, they can take their time developing carrier ops in the background while getting to grips with land-based variants of Japanese naval types as well.
I'm in no rush, but there's no need to venture into 1946 for my own wish...though it wouldn't be much use until some high altitude bombers are included: the Me163B (or A) Komet. I recently re-read Mano Ziegler's book 'Rocket Fighter,' detailing the first operational rocket squadron, so it's been on my mind lately. The Komet did appear in IL-2 1946 but would be amazing in the current sim.
Both periods you mentioned would be cool. One minor correction on the Sicily scenario though: I think the Italian heavy fighter could actually be the Do217 (we bought a few and used them as night fighters because we sucked at building twin engine fighters), and the bomber would likely be the SM.79.
As much as I would really love to bring in the Pacific theater as soon as possible, I could see an emphasis on D-Day, possibly going up to and through the Battle of the Bulge.
I like the idea of early war campagains. I would love to see the very beggining of the war, flying P.11c, early 109s, the infamous PZL.37, early I-16 models, P.23s etc. That would be very unique setting for a game too, outside Il-2 1946 custom missions i dont think we ever got to fly in a setting like this.
Although I am excited to try the Yak-9 I have to agree with you on that point there Magz, not what I expected. Was hoping for the Spitfire MkXVI, considering that Western Europe is the upcoming theatre... The Hurricane however will be a joy to fly I'm sure, although can't see it being much of a fair fight against late war German birds hahaha
Yak-9 and 9T are only competative vvs fighter that fits existing east front maps so its logical selection to be able to sell airplane that SP and MP players can use. As when you for example dont plan to do next DLC in east front and you have planty of users from russia its important to give them something to spend money on, as in last 18 months only new vvs stuff was Po-2 if your not fan of german or western aviation.
vvs did got IIa, iib, iic and iid from brits, and they did mod them with russian 20mm and 12.7mm weapons , so anything is posible with how modifications work in GB game, Hurricane II and mix of all its guns, bombs and rockets.
I don't think any B or C variant Mustangs were around at the time of Sicily, after some quick reading they only arrived to squadrons after the invasion of Italy so they kinda miss the mark there...People forget the B and C Mustangs were only in service for a short period of time before being completely replaced by D's. There were a lot of other classic USAAF aircraft though, early P-38's and late P-40's which I think would be quite nice to see. American A-20's (with glass and solid noses) and B-25's. Lets not forget that the USAAF were flying Bomber mission out of North Africa at the time with B-24's as well so that could be an interesting AI controlled aircraft. British with their Beaufighters tearing up the Axis Mediterranean shipping opposite the rather capable Italian high level torpedo bombers. Brits would possibly be flying early mark Mustangs powered by Allison's along side P-40's and I can't be sure but by the invasion of Sicily I think most Hurri's were out of service in the Med. MK. IX Spits were already in service at that point in the war with both British and American squadrons flying them so the G model 109's and FW's alongside the Italian hot props would have to keep their heads screwed on tight to keep on top of them. Its an interesting time in aviation history with a strange combination of Old and New all fighting together but overall except for the Italian aircraft most of the air frames would already be in game with different in different marks. Not that that is a bad thing but the variety isn't as great as you might expect. Going slightly earlier and looking at the DAF vs. Regia Aeronautica in Africa, I know CloD has a claim to the theatre but in reality most of the already small player base is playing IL-2BoX already so why not have it in game. It would potentially be a lot more interesting with the use of typically older air frames allowing for greater variation while still including the Italians and some of their more capable aircraft as it wasn't until 44+ that most of their "super props" came into service. It would also allow for maritime aircraft to make an appearance, Sunderlands for instance, and also a potential early tentative look at carrier operations with the British and American fleets operating in the area. I do like your idea of the Invasion of France and the lowlands idea though, lots of very unique air frames to go around, some of those French designs were absolutely fascinating along with some of those crazy Fokker designs out of the Netherlands...It also pays to remember that no Spits were ever *in* France at the time and weren't until after D-Day so unless you do some kinda Rise of Flight Channel map type deal with parts of the southern coast involved it wouldn't make sense. Anyway, just throwing ideas out there, I am sure the Devs already have a plan thought out and are doing their things, maybe they'll focus on their ww1 module for a while...who knows.
Wait are you sure that that typhoons and P51s were used in Sicily? I didn't think the Tiffie made it to the Med and I thought that, in Mid 1943, the only 'Mustang' variant in the theater were the 'allison engine' version so the Mustang I 'army cooperation' as well as the A36 dive bomber.
Pacific Theatre is the crowning achievement of this series from IL2. I don't really feel like we need anything more than that to have a well rounded platform. Apart from BoB and Africa but of course thats coming in Cliffs of Dover so.
The Siege Of Malta, with Gladiators, plenty of Italian aircraft, and a limited island area with plenty of sea around could make for an interesting expansion. Sicily would give more options for aviation however.
They actually looked into making a pacific theatre before deciding on Bodenplatte. They did that because they were having a hard time getting good information about Japanese things like planes, battles, etc. but they said they would not give up on the pacific theatre
The Spanish Civil War might be cool. Get some of the same early France vibes but have something of an international force, at least on the side of the Republicans. Another area that I don't think has ever really been explored in games, less a flight sim, would be the fighting over China. I don't really know all that much about it myself, or if there were enough planes to form a full pack, though. The Korean war would be interesting too. Not only would you have some early jets to play around with you might be able to fit in some of the early combat helicopters; though that role might be rather too limited.
It would be "fun" for you playing in this most brutal, cruel, inhumane Leiningrad-Siege setting? I've found Stalingrad for an "air war simulation" strange already.
Yes. It would be fun. It's a game. Games should be fun. Plus it's already been done in Il2 1946, and it was great fun then. Your moral issues with a collection of 1's and 0's is nobody's problem other than your own.
I'd really like to see different models of the Ju-88. The night fighter version for example. Also more variants of the He-111, such as the H20. The rear static gun should also be implaced on the earlier models also. And last but of course not least, Do-217 Dornier should be added also. All of these aircraft were in activity throughout ww2. Improvements I'd like to see, Manual Fuel Tank selection Putting out flames Drop Tanks Option of Jettisoning Fuel Bomb selection, ex. Belly 1 x 1000 & 1 x 250, being able to release one or the other by choice rather than always the biggest bomb being released first. Hope this will start a Schwarm of interest and perhaps be a subject matter :-)
If we're not going to see Operation Torch and North Africa, Operation Husky and Sicily are definitely my next up on the list. I would love to get my hands on some of the Italian aircraft and some of the lesser known allied ones as well.
until they have navy stuff , will not see any pacific content, hence why Sicily is a good leadin to start building on navy stuff. pretty sure pacific will not be next thing they do.
I think one of the problems facing the developers at this point is the time frame / plane set. The have German aircraft for 41, 42, 43 and 45. If they did another battle set in 1043, then they have to get another complete German set of new aircraft for that year, OR as you said, use other Axis forces, Italy is the easiest. So my guess is it's 1943, Italy or 1944 anywhere (Normandy or Northern Italy). I do love the idea of 1940, but I think that is unlikely since the aircraft and the tanks are not as well known. Korea would also be great and the work on the jet engines in the 262 has given them some experience with this are of modeling (the flight model, not the mesh). So, I guess 1944 Northern Europe, or 195? Korea, but I will hope for 1940.
I'd love to see the Pacific or the Korean theatre! It's been such a long time since we've seen those in a real sim... Sure, DCS offers the Sabre and the 15bis but IMO they truly lack some content from this era. I want to fly a Panther over an adequate map and units :( Anyway, I'm already really happy with the current aircraft line-up and whatever comes next to IL-2 will surely catch my attention, as Sicily just did!
I was thinking Korean War would be amazing. They already have the planes and Armor from late WW2 that was used in Korea. The Mustang saw a lot of action in Korea as well as the tanks. Add the latest Jets and there you have something to get excited aboit.
If they want another Eastern Front battle there are 2 options. Battle of Leningrad; early war aircraft that where not in BoM and chance to work on navel forces more, Marat battleship. Battle of Bagration; for late war Russian aircraft and would round out the Eastern Front Battles. As for the rest of Europe, I agree with a Sicilian or Italian map. Battle of Malta with Sicily included in the map would be great focus campaign for the devs to cut their teeth on carrier gameplay. As for the pacific I’ll save that for another post as I’ve done a thesis in my head on that. I agree though Battle of Midway or in my head Battle of the Carriers 1942 would be a good place to start.
I agree with the probability of your two projected IL-2 GB next direction episodes (battles of France and Sicily). However, I would like to throw in another dark horse contender: Russia 1944: Operation Bagration & and beyond, e.g. with new Soviet planes like the Yak-3, La-7, P-63, IL-10...
Sicily, Battle of Malta or Operation Torch the invasion of North Africa would be a great new campaign and series that would all fit nicely together with a good mix of new aircraft to fly as well as taking advantage of the aircraft that are already in the game. I also agree an early French Campaign would be great as well. They really couldn't go wrong with any expansion as long as the maps look great and the added aircraft are correct. I definitely do not want to see them waste there time and energy with planes that were just prototypes and didn't really take part in aerial combat, if you want that play IL2 1946.
A France map would be really interesting. You could also include some of the aircraft that only really saw service early in the war, such as the Fairley Battle.
Before I even watch your prediction, I'm going to say we will get a general 42/43 Channel theme, I believe we will get a Mosquito , Hawker Typhoon and an earlier Mustang for the Germans we could see a Me 410 and Ju 88 C and the 190s that we don't already have. They may chuck one or 2 Russian planes in as bonus or 2 make up for shifting a little. Personally I would have preffered either Pacific or Korean War
You know how there’s a bat mod for it-2 not this one but the old one imagine that with this one that would be lit Like with the hawker hunter and stuff
???The P-51B/C model was not issued to any USAAF units before the end of 1943, well after the Sicily Campaign had come to a close. If there were Mustangs in the Sicily and early parts of the mainland Italian campaigns, they would have been P-51As (with Allison engines).
Spanish Civil war, Sino-Japanese war, the winter war, battle of the Mediterranean (malta, Cyprus, crete, N Afrika, southern Italy), battle of the North sea (Norwich/Essex, Heligoland, Denmark, Norway), KOREAN WAR... because omg I want a twin mustang, and finally, the pacific... the thing about the pacific is that the area that it covers is so huge they would have to break it down into like 20 maps to have all the relevant battles.
Over at the official forum there has been whole multi page threads on various ideas (some good, some not) of what expansion should come next if it ain't the PTO. Unfortunately many people seem to think what they want to be the same as what is likely or viable. I have a preference as to what theater I'd most like to see at some point in the future (Solomon Islands mid '43 to early '44) but I don't think it should be next as I feel there should be something that works with BoBP rather than leaving hanging out in the wind, in much the same way that the three eastern front expansions work in progression. So what I think should come next is BoN (Battle of Normandy). Long story short, it has the advantages of: - dovetails nicely with BoBP, both historically and with the career mode. - naval asset development that carries over to the future PTO. - aircraft set which spares dev resources, most aircraft being either already here/coming in BoBP or variations of those aircraft, but with some room to add new types if so wanted (e.g Typhoon or Mosquito FB.VI) which also work with BoBP. - great expansion opportunity for TC. Tank battles in the bocage!
Probably in the minority here but I'd like to see Leningrad. Nice long campaign for the career mode, interesting topography, and can use early, mid, and late war aircraft which gives the devs the chance to knock out the last major gaps in the Eastern Front plane set: I-153, Tu-2, Il-4, Li-2, maybe early LaGG or Yak variants for the Soviets, and Hs-123, Fi-156, Bf-110F, Ju-87B, and Do-217 for the Germans. Not the mention the Finns of course!
I'd love to see earlier theaters - France, even Poland but this would require to include pretty forgotten planes for allied side which makes it nearly impossible to implement.
I'm still hoping for Karelian isthmus map for both Winter War (Fiat G.50, Fokker D.XXI, Bristol Blenheim on Finnish side, I-15, I-153, DB-3, SB-2 on Soviet side) and Continuation War (B-239, Morane Saulnier with Mörkö Morane as collector plane, Curtis Hawk 75). Most continuation war Soviet planes are already in the game..
BOF 1940 is a very nice theatre of war. It came too short in the old Il-2. The Italy map in old Il-2 was very nice caused by the landscape. High mountains, green fields and the mediter. sea. I flew a lot of missions online on this map in several online wars. Maybe we will see a Monte Cassino map too? What I like to see is a channel map like CanonUK made it in old Il-2 as a mod. Early Focke Wulf, jabo raids, Spit IX, Operation Cerberus etc. This map is interesting between 1942-1944. One of my most favorit maps. I made the north sea map as a mod for old IL-2. It came into several mod packs and it was THE MAP for the B-17 fans, P47 fans and Mustang cowboys vs. Bf109, FW190 etc.. I spent a lot of time to make the airfield historical correct. I got mails from the UK, from the netherlands and from Germany. This map whould also work fine with se so called "Westfeldzug" 1940 when the germans went into the netherlands. I personally love the russian theatre but at the moment I need something different. The czech mapin old Il-2 was brilliant too. Very detailed and done with much love. S! Ralf ... known as I/JG27_Waggel
IL-2 Roadmap: 2020 IL-2 Good Battles 2021 IL-2 Mediocre Battles 2022 IL-2 Go Home You're Drunk Battles ...In all seriousness though, I can't wait for experimental planes and user build missions to be added like in Il-2 1946
There was no typhoons in sicily landings or in any italy or n africa campaign, also p-51s were a-36(P-51A) not b or c models, P-38s P-40s P-39s were heavy used in husky from american side it was still to early for P-51s and P-47s, also you would have to have bases in Tunisia. also from that same event it looks like anouncment on new plans is coming in november so not long to wait
I'd like to see a future pack where I can fly all the major American planes. The Mustang, the Corsair, the Lightning, the Thunderbolt, and the Hellcat. The major German planes I think are great for this pack are the Focke-Wulf 190, the Bf 109, the Me 262, the Ta 152, and the Bf 109 Zwilling. The British would have the Spitfire 24, the Tempest, the Vampire, and the Meteor. The Russian planes would be the late Yaks, Las, and MiGs. The Japanese would have their A7M, Ki-84, and Ki-43-II. Maybe also there could be some heavy fighters from all sides and some bombers and attack aircraft. I'd like to see some U.S. torpedo bombers and attack aircraft. What would make me want to play this game? Seeing American planes in it that perform well. I'd fly them first, and then I'd stick around to fly the other stuff I like.
Battle of Sicily is far too late for it to be a flagship inclusion, but all I want are CR.42 Falco's back in IL-2, maybe as a collector plane like the Po-2? I'm probably only one of dozens that wishes for it though Although, if they're super stuck into late-war stuff, there's even a chance they could go for the early Korean War, would give them a single plane on a carrier in the F4U to flesh out carrier stuff without "having to be fair to the IJN" as getting info on a lot of the IJN stuff is pretty hard these days, introducing some things like La-7's and Il-10's while keeping things like Yak-9's, Yak-3's and even Po-2's to flesh the place out while keeping up with later aircraft such as the B-26 and some crossover with later model P-51's on the UN side, although, Korea is pretty plainly the forgotten war, so it'll forever be a pipe dream huh?
What about the aleutian campaign? You have some the US aircraft already, will help developing the Japanese aircraft but without major carrier ops. Some great footage already filmed at the time on the air war
If it was Blitz you could add polish PZL P.11s etc. I would love to see Spanish Civil War, early i-16, I-15, ME109B, and the CR32, for me this period is the mecca of dog-fighting as bi and mono planes punch it out with monoplanes coming out on top.
My vote would be the Pacific. 1C would make a lot of money for all the different aircraft possibilities that people would want like the Zero and F4U. Maybe A Guadacanal Map featuring carrier battles or Okinawa. Sicily would be great too. You already have Axis planes available to support it.
Hey, before making the great move to Pacific Theater which would be amazing, I love the idea of Battle of France or Winter War Finland or even the Baltics which I believe would still provide enough interesting planes for both sides. I read somewhere about Normandy for some more late models but not sure where AXIS would come into play... As much as I want to see razorback versions of P-51 and P-47 among others (B-26?) ASAP, the only reason I would avoid MTO/Italy/Malta related expansions just yet is to leave room for Team Fusion to come out of North Africa assuming they are still viable? Admittedly, they seem to be taking a long time for 5.0 however so not sure if that should play a factor, but staying positive. It would be great if we had product coming out of both groups! What do we think?
How about some Eastern European axis aircraft? There's loads, just using Romania you get all these just off the top of my head PZL 11,24,37,38 IAR 80,81 Bloch 210 Hurricane MK1 Blenheim MKIV JRS79B
I want to see a really large scale map that would make sense to be played in large bombers such as the Lancaster or the B17. Ideally set either during the Battle of Britain (city bombing raids) or during the battle of midway ( naval gameplay maybe even carriers) These would allow to expand on British and American aircraft. Because I swear if they do Poland or Finland or anything that involves Russia I’m gonna be so happy to buy another version of the bf109 and il2
It could either go back to earlier periods in WW2. I'd like to see some Mediterranean action like around North Africa and then going into Southern Italy a-la Catch 22, we'd get more British and Italian machines and some nice variations of US and German planes as you pointed out...or I could see go into Korea.
I’m going to be totally out there with my guess, because of wishful thinking. IL-2 Korea UN Aircraft: F-86 Sabre F-51D Mustang F-4U Corsair (carrier ops) F-80 Shooting Star Soviet Aircraft: Mig-15bis IL-10 Yak-9P Mig-9 (the PLAAF had these, but never sent them to Korea. Thought these would be better than an La-9 though, and could match against the F-80 or F-84) Collector Aircraft: F-84 ThunderJet (UN) La-11 (Soviet) Honorable mentions are the F-82 Twin Mustang, F9F Panther, B-26 Invader, RAAF Gloster Meteor, and the Sea Fury.
I would love for them to do something with Cold War jets in Korea, they've shown they know what to do when it comes to jet aircraft with the ME-262. Plus DCS needs competition.
Sicily/Italy would be good for all the reasons you've listed. I'd like to see the Dornier 217 as well, that's been on my mind for a while. I do like your French campaign idea too. I've already said Bagration would be a good addition to Tank Warfare. Burma could be good if they want to practice some Japanese theatre without the water but that depends on how many of their own toes they'd tread on with regards to aircraft - I'm thinking Japanese ones here. Ki-43s/44s could be good here if they wanted to leave Zeros for the Pacific? I'd really like them to do Burma as a nod to all those people who fought there who are largely forgotten. also when you look at it you have Americans, British, Japanese, Chinese, Indians - which would include Pakistan then. Tank Warfare could be interesting with Stuarts and Lee/Grants, plus some Japanese tanks. Bunker busting could be interesting to allow your infantry to advance, that might be a mission thing though? I'd like Guadalcanal etc in the Pacific too. Treat the Pacific like they do Europe and go where fewer people tread. I don't mind them covering the popular areas as well but I'd really like them to show people the less well trodden theatres.
Eli love the c model p51 with Malcom hood, if they can get bombers in I would like to see invasion of Italy 1943 long bomb runs into the oil fields with lots of early to mid war acft
It's going to be the Pacific, and I don't agree with them not bringing Cliffs of Dover. They are already making everyone repay for Rise of Flight. So if they are doing that, then I don't see why they won't bring back Battle of Britain
They put that on the back burner some months ago, which makes me think they've got some phase they want to tackle first. But hey, I'd love it if the Pacific theatre happens sooner rather than later...banzai!
Ehhh I don't think Rise of Flight and CLoD are comparable. CLoD relied incredibly heavily on its community to get it to a playable state and now its a pretty solid game, albeit itll never recover from its rough launch. Rise of Flight was a full, well rounded package made by a team that worked with a similar mindset to IL-2 and was able to effectively begin porting without (comparably) too much cost or time (minus retexturing and the new physics). CLoD would require consulting with community members who made important mods/scripts and would take a lot more time and money to port, something that would take time away from other development. Remember, Rise of Flight is a different subsection of the company. Flying Circus does not take time away from IL-2 development.
@@gormros still being charged a ton of money for less content than i had already had with rof. They wont need to get all the help, all they would do is port the aircraft from pre blitz and add finishing touches and charge us another full game lol
@@justalldamnmotorsports2419 You're being charged a tonne of money for the best simulation of the planes currently added there is. Rise of Flight still exists as its own game, Flying Circus is purely to begin moving it to the next generation of combat flight sims (of which there's only two commercial games, IL-2 Great Battles and DCS). I agree its expensive but the devs already made a forum post talking about how sim development is incredibly, incredibly expensive and time consuming, and will never be particularly profitable due to it being so niche. Becuase of that each module costs as much as a full game. But remember, IL-2 is actually much more competitively priced and accessible than DCS, despite being a fairly on-par simulation (it wasn't always but IL-2 has undeniably been catching up to DCS in terms of full-sim).
@@gormros im not too worried about dcs, dcs is more of a hardcore learn the real aircraft type simulation. I wont buy flying circus its my only real problem with GB. Maybe the bomber controversy because i dont believe that sob story about performance. Plenty of games out there that push way past the limits IL2 is
To be honest, whatever it is, I'm going to buy into it at some point. My guess is its Flying Circuis vol.2. But outside of that, I have NO idea what it could be. I'd LOVE for it to be the PTO, but like you said, it's unlikely. So if it's not those two, I have no idea.
Sicilly sounds cool, like that idea. But I am one of those weird Americans who loves the Eastern front and Finland especially, so I would love to see a Finnish expansion or a late war Eastern front one to round off 44/45 there.
Malta would be good, lots of italian stuff could be in that plus room to add sea planes, Coastal Command sub hunting in PBYs, Liberators and shooting things up in Beaufighters, Fleet Air Arm - Convoy protection, attacking taranto, going after the Bismark and Tirpitz.
i think the same, but not uk, and thats why hurricane is collector with yak9s, as next one is probably Midway so you give british and russain only players to have option to get collector airplanes atleast if they dont like USA and Japan ones. Germans usealy play on american side in pto so you got them with bnz wildcats :)
I love the Sicily idea. Another theater that I would love to see is the Spanish Civil War. The Republicans and Soviets had some nice high performance biplanes like the I-15, NI-52, and the Br.19. They could also get birds like the ANT-40. The nationalists could get planes like the BF-109 C-1, early Ju-87s, the CR.32, and the SM.79. I would love a very early 109. They could do a lot with the Spanish Civil War.
I am a Finn so I am quite biased but I think Finnish-Russian front might be interesting for others as well. Finland had kind a weird mix of planes including version of Brewster Buffalos, Morare-Sauniers, BF-109s, Blennheims and so on. Also Russian side had plenty of their own planes plus Air-cobras and other western planes.
I second this, either the winter or continuation war would be very interesting
pacific theater,a host of planes on us and japan side that id like to see
Amen to that. It has to be. I just want a late F4U in IL2. I will be the happiest guy in the world if i could drop the wings on that beauty. =)
Amen!
From everything that Jason has said, its not going to be Pacific :(
until they have more navy stuff , will not see any pacific content, hence why Sicily is a good leadin to start building on navy stuff.
pretty sure pacific will not be next thing they do. They said they want to already, but its not going to be the next thing they do sadly, That is almost a fact.... They also stated they need more info on planes to do that content, They will keep building on current assets , and something like Sicily would be a lot easier to start will , and a better primer for Pacific with more navy stuff being made.
@@schobesbergerf I love my Corsair. Got to have it, got to have it! It cannot be considered a complete WWII game in the end if the Corsair is missing. It is such a beauty, a true seabird, and it is very iconic and extraordinarily well built. That plane could maneuver so well for something that large and heavy and it could cruise at incredible speeds. When pushed it performed like a dragon. It spewed lead and ripped stuff out of the sky.
I would like to see a battle for Malta expansion but the thing I want most of all is a mosquito.
Agreed on both points, Siege of Malta would be a really interesting backdrop and a mossie would definitely be cool to fly
Not gonna happen, deal with it. Not popular enough, new theatre is out of question since devs would have to building everything from the start. New assets, new units etc. They already spend tons of time doing to for the west 1944. Making all this just for one scenario is impossible. New expansion will be 99% west 1944/45, east 1944/1945 or finally Pacific.
Fair enough but it's nice to think about a Malta campaign.But there's no reason for no mosquito
I think it's possible, you have the German aircraft, add in a few more Italian and a few early model spits, gladiators and hurris and that's Malta sorted. Good sized map with huge history in regards to aviation. That's what I want to see!
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That makes no sense. Add few more? Every expansion has 10 planes, they will have to make 10 planes anyway. And not to mention that axis would spawn 100km away from malta. This is suicide for game, lots of people cries that they have to fly 10min to combat zone, with malta it would be 20-30min one way. And like I said, Malta would require completely different assets that this games does not have. Devs are not EA with millions of $. You will get east/west 44/45 or pacific. I can assure you. Other stuff has no chance in at least 5 years with 3 already announced Pacific expansions. Midway, Okinawa and something else I don't remember. Most likely New guinea would join this list. If you follow this series and what devs do and say, you would know anything else is just impossible.
The battle of France will be a gret idea with the D-520 and the Potez 631. But I think a battle of Kalkin Gol or the battle of China with early zeros and Ki-43 and even Ki-61.
Same could be done in Burma, Japan vs UK.
I personally think they should just mesh cliffs of Dover into the great battles series with some tweaks and improvements. I also agree that the blitz into France and Sicily would be pretty awesome to have, neither of these battles get very much attention
Skyace 95 cliffs of dover will have many problems to convert map, aircrafts etc to great battles i think, so you better not bet on it. It’s like situation with RoF and flying circus, unnecessary extra work
different development team , totally different engine, not going to happen. COD came from il-2 1946 and Il-2 GB game from Rise Of Flight game engines. why would they compete with each other , from business point of view that would be silly. there is no $ value compared to expanding what a new theme will be... COD and IL-2 GB do share same publisher only. The $ is all about new content , not rehashing old content. The only reason ROF was ported to GB's updated engine as Flying Circus is its same dev and based on same engine.
Would be really cool to get Cliffs of Dover with VR support!
I have a feeling it's not so simple as I might think, though.
Yes! I definitely want a early war French campaign!
Magz, as a longtime player of IL-2 and tester, I would like to add some things.
First off, the expansion planes were indeed leaked at the Virpil conference, but IAmNotARobot (developer) later mentioned it on the Russian side of the IL-2 forums. You might not be excited for the Yak-9 because of how many we already have, but this is a plane the community has been asking for over the course of the last few years.
Secondly, when it comes to development cycles, 1CGS has taken much longer with Bodenplatte. This is due to changing some things in the engine which they previously said would not be possible, such as: extending aircraft view distances. They also had to build many of the physics for turbosuperchargers, jets, and high speed physics. And even after the main development cycle of a game is complete, there is usually some down time where the collector aircraft are being made. We don't know when this will happen because of the additional updates for TC and FC1.
Lastly, we don't know what the next expansion will be. If you take the Pacific out of the question, I recall Han saying he wanted to do Korea. Other than that, they are very secretive with what their plans are, and what they are currently working on.
Although, I personally would love the Battle of France. I think it has some neat aircraft, and also it would add the possibility of adding some sections of the channel that can be reused in a later FC map.
In order of personal preference
1) Earlier Western theater battle (1943-44 timeframe)
2) MTO
3) PTO
4) Late war ETO
A year late but I would love something involving Italy as my great grandad fought in that theater
Ive never seen a dedicated Korean War Sim since "Forgotten War" from the early 2000's Id love if IL2 did that. Not just thr Sabres and the MiGs like DCS. P51Ds, Corsairs, Sea Tempests, Fireflys, Yaks-9 and La-11s Tu-2, A-26 and the Late Meteors (etc.). They could even introduce the entire peninsula. Maybe I'm asking too much but a boy can dream.
I cannot express how much I would love a Korean War era Battle. Build on what they did with jet engines mixed with some interesting super props. But Sicily would make for some interesting aircraft.
It would be incredible. Itd probably be like 5 years from now minimum but once WWII is well fleshed out they could probably just release a mod API and outsource some development to other trusted companies so they could begin work on the trans-sonic jet era.
Would that work as a PvP map?
There were SOME early war dogfighs againsts yak9, la9 and il10's and later of course the mig's but i feel like i wouldn't quite work because in the korean war it was mostly CAS, intercepting convoys, bombing bridges etc
here's a good LONG read if you're interested:
media.defense.gov/2010/May/26/2001330297/-1/-1/0/AFD-100526-045.pdf
A1 sky raider baby my fave
Korea is an absolute, solid, no-buy for me.
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What so you guys think about the Winter War? I see lots of fun aircraft pitted against each other. Like Brewster Buffalo, Hurricane, I-153, TB-3, Macchi 200 and many others!
Also I-16, DB-3 and Blenheim
I think there are good chances of the Pacific coming next. However if that isn't the case an Italian scenario would be my personal preference, another good feature of this theater to help future development for the Pacific is that it has carrier operations, with the British carriers operating Martlets, Seafires, etc
and map would be with all good curves and bumps like south part of Kuban map :)
With the first dev videos of BoBP's final three aircraft and map out
Link: th-cam.com/video/13EsgPaRQpE/w-d-xo.html
It's time to ask the big question, What's next? Where will the next expansion take us?
For reference, the current full IL-2 aircraft lineup (not including the leak)
Germany
Bf 109 E-7
Bf 109 F-2
Bf 109 F-4
Bf 109 G-2
Bf 109 G-4
Bf 109 G-6
Bf 109 G-14
Bf 109 K-4
Focke-Wulf 190 A-3
Fw 190 A-5
Fw 190 A-8
Fw 190 D-9
Me 262
Bf 110 E-2
Bf 110 G-2
Ju 88 A-4
Ju 87 D-3
He 111 H-6
He 111 H-16
Hs 129 B-2
Ju 52/?m
Russia
I-16 Type 24
MiG-3 Series 24
IL-2 AM-38 (model 1941)
IL-2 AM-38 (model 1942)
IL-2 AM-38F (model 1943)
Pe-2 Series 35
Pe-2 Series 87
LaGG-3 Series 29
Yak-1 Series 69
Yak-1b Series 127
Yak-7b Series 36
La-5 Series 8
La-5FN Series 2
USA
P-38J Lightning
P-51D
P-47D
P-40E-1
P-39L-1
A-20B
Brittain
Spitfire Mk.V?
Spitfire Mk.IX
Tempest Mk.V
Italy
MC.202
Battle of Moscow: 2 October 1941 - 7 January 1942
Battle of Stalingrad: 23 August 1942 - 2 February 1943
Battle of Kuban: 1 January - 9 October 1943
Battle of Bodenplatte (Battle of the Bulge)
16 December 1944 - 25 January 1945
The Battle of France could potentially bring a large map that includes the low countries. So besides adding French aircraft, it might be possible to see some of the Fokker designs the Dutch Air Force used in the early war. While interesting, not sure if that would be likely.
In all honesty, our airplanes weren't that great. Fokker G. 1 might be decent, but the rest I'd leave away.
It's not only unlikely but also pretty much impossible. People can't realize that this is small team with limited founds. And they except stuff like France 1940, Africa etc. All this requires completely new assets to make, literally everything. Different building, vehicles, trees etc. They already did that for west 1944/45. There is just no way they are going to waste so much $ on doing it again, unless it's Pacific that is suppose to get much more expansions in that area. Something random like battle of France just not going to happen.
Sicily and Malta are what I’m looking for. MidWar Med stuff.
Mags how likely would you say are the invasion of Poland and Spains civil war?
Those are the never represented conflicts.
I see more likely Spain than Poland. The aircrafts involved have more available information.
@@MatJan86 actually No the modders did IT for the old Forgotten Battles series, even before the mods.
Although Like the pre mods Malta campaigns some make believe was required, though not as much.
(After all the original The Battle of Malta campaign used the Guam Mao iirc)
Winter War in Finland with I-15 I-15 bis I-16 I-16bis I-153 DB-2 DB-3 and TB3s for Russia and Gloster Gladiator II, Morane-Saulnier M.S.406, Brewster F2A Buffalo, Fiat G.50 , Bristol Bulldog Mk. IVA Fokker D.XXI and Bristol Blenheims for Finland Tanks Finland BT-42 Renault FT Vickers 6 ton Russia T26, T 28 BTs
Oh FYI Metors F3 of 616 squadian not only crossed the channel but were based in Belgium in Jan 45, by March they had moved to Holland and in April were based in Germany
If they did this, they could make a Khalkhin Gol extension. Same Russian assets. Just add the new map and the Japanese.
I am HYPED about the Hurricane if it's coming out!
I've been looking forward to a video like this. Great video as always.
Mediterranian would be awesome! But I´m still hoping for the Pacific. Pacific Fighters was my jam back in the day!
If we're operating under the assumption that the PTO is after whatever comes next, then they might go CBI. There would be some limited naval stuff for them to practice on, but the CBI also spans literally the entirety of WWII. They could use it as a jumping off point for any era of the PTO in terms of aircraft and ground assets. Many of the allied aircraft that are already in the game would fit right into the CBI as well. The existing P-40, P-39, P-47, P-38, Spitfire, etc. would allow them to front-load the module with ready-to-go allied types so they can focus on the Japanese aircraft. Since carriers weren't involved in the CBI much, they can take their time developing carrier ops in the background while getting to grips with land-based variants of Japanese naval types as well.
Be really cool to see a focus on the night fighter operations between Britain and Germany
What about the Pacific theater? That would be the next natural step
I'm in no rush, but there's no need to venture into 1946 for my own wish...though it wouldn't be much use until some high altitude bombers are included: the Me163B (or A) Komet. I recently re-read Mano Ziegler's book 'Rocket Fighter,' detailing the first operational rocket squadron, so it's been on my mind lately. The Komet did appear in IL-2 1946 but would be amazing in the current sim.
Both periods you mentioned would be cool. One minor correction on the Sicily scenario though: I think the Italian heavy fighter could actually be the Do217 (we bought a few and used them as night fighters because we sucked at building twin engine fighters), and the bomber would likely be the SM.79.
Pacific Front! Loved it in 1946
I would like to see the invasion of China as it would lead well in to the war in the pacific.
And I want to play as the flying tiger's
Oh.... I second that. That would be awesome...
As much as I would really love to bring in the Pacific theater as soon as possible, I could see an emphasis on D-Day, possibly going up to and through the Battle of the Bulge.
I like the idea of early war campagains. I would love to see the very beggining of the war, flying P.11c, early 109s, the infamous PZL.37, early I-16 models, P.23s etc. That would be very unique setting for a game too, outside Il-2 1946 custom missions i dont think we ever got to fly in a setting like this.
I-15's as well!!
I would eat my own dog for a Mossie and Typhoon over Sicily.
Nice profile pic
I would let you eat your own dog for a Mossie and Typhoon over Sicily.
lol there was no Typhoons in Italy
Very good points and information, the Italian theater would be awesome. The ME 110, the Mosquito and definitely the Italians fighters would be great .
Although I am excited to try the Yak-9 I have to agree with you on that point there Magz, not what I expected. Was hoping for the Spitfire MkXVI, considering that Western Europe is the upcoming theatre... The Hurricane however will be a joy to fly I'm sure, although can't see it being much of a fair fight against late war German birds hahaha
Yak-9 and 9T are only competative vvs fighter that fits existing east front maps so its logical selection to be able to sell airplane that SP and MP players can use. As when you for example dont plan to do next DLC in east front and you have planty of users from russia its important to give them something to spend money on, as in last 18 months only new vvs stuff was Po-2 if your not fan of german or western aviation.
Russian varient of the hurricane with the 20mm?
vvs did got IIa, iib, iic and iid from brits, and they did mod them with russian 20mm and 12.7mm weapons , so anything is posible with how modifications work in GB game, Hurricane II and mix of all its guns, bombs and rockets.
I don't think any B or C variant Mustangs were around at the time of Sicily, after some quick reading they only arrived to squadrons after the invasion of Italy so they kinda miss the mark there...People forget the B and C Mustangs were only in service for a short period of time before being completely replaced by D's. There were a lot of other classic USAAF aircraft though, early P-38's and late P-40's which I think would be quite nice to see. American A-20's (with glass and solid noses) and B-25's. Lets not forget that the USAAF were flying Bomber mission out of North Africa at the time with B-24's as well so that could be an interesting AI controlled aircraft.
British with their Beaufighters tearing up the Axis Mediterranean shipping opposite the rather capable Italian high level torpedo bombers. Brits would possibly be flying early mark Mustangs powered by Allison's along side P-40's and I can't be sure but by the invasion of Sicily I think most Hurri's were out of service in the Med. MK. IX Spits were already in service at that point in the war with both British and American squadrons flying them so the G model 109's and FW's alongside the Italian hot props would have to keep their heads screwed on tight to keep on top of them. Its an interesting time in aviation history with a strange combination of Old and New all fighting together but overall except for the Italian aircraft most of the air frames would already be in game with different in different marks. Not that that is a bad thing but the variety isn't as great as you might expect.
Going slightly earlier and looking at the DAF vs. Regia Aeronautica in Africa, I know CloD has a claim to the theatre but in reality most of the already small player base is playing IL-2BoX already so why not have it in game. It would potentially be a lot more interesting with the use of typically older air frames allowing for greater variation while still including the Italians and some of their more capable aircraft as it wasn't until 44+ that most of their "super props" came into service. It would also allow for maritime aircraft to make an appearance, Sunderlands for instance, and also a potential early tentative look at carrier operations with the British and American fleets operating in the area.
I do like your idea of the Invasion of France and the lowlands idea though, lots of very unique air frames to go around, some of those French designs were absolutely fascinating along with some of those crazy Fokker designs out of the Netherlands...It also pays to remember that no Spits were ever *in* France at the time and weren't until after D-Day so unless you do some kinda Rise of Flight Channel map type deal with parts of the southern coast involved it wouldn't make sense. Anyway, just throwing ideas out there, I am sure the Devs already have a plan thought out and are doing their things, maybe they'll focus on their ww1 module for a while...who knows.
Wasn't it meant to go pacific a while ago? Also the Sm.79 would be cool.
Your Italy prediction sounds spot on
What about the Spanish Civil War as a scenario?
Wait are you sure that that typhoons and P51s were used in Sicily? I didn't think the Tiffie made it to the Med and I thought that, in Mid 1943, the only 'Mustang' variant in the theater were the 'allison engine' version so the Mustang I 'army cooperation' as well as the A36 dive bomber.
Pacific Theatre is the crowning achievement of this series from IL2. I don't really feel like we need anything more than that to have a well rounded platform. Apart from BoB and Africa but of course thats coming in Cliffs of Dover so.
I'm hoping for Pacific theater but also hoping they dont forget about the BPF.
The Siege Of Malta, with Gladiators, plenty of Italian aircraft, and a limited island area with plenty of sea around could make for an interesting expansion.
Sicily would give more options for aviation however.
Two words: Pacific Theater.
Why does every game seem to only focus on the ETO?
They actually looked into making a pacific theatre before deciding on Bodenplatte. They did that because they were having a hard time getting good information about Japanese things like planes, battles, etc. but they said they would not give up on the pacific theatre
For battle of france you have all airplanes and map area in clod (even d.520 in making) so its hard to belive they would make it in GB
I vote to go Pacific...You could do the CBI...P40Bs and Oscars, Burma road. You could almost do Guadalcanal campaign, but without ships.
The Spanish Civil War might be cool. Get some of the same early France vibes but have something of an international force, at least on the side of the Republicans. Another area that I don't think has ever really been explored in games, less a flight sim, would be the fighting over China. I don't really know all that much about it myself, or if there were enough planes to form a full pack, though.
The Korean war would be interesting too. Not only would you have some early jets to play around with you might be able to fit in some of the early combat helicopters; though that role might be rather too limited.
Siege of Leningrad. Winter War/Continuation War.
I would love to see a B-26, but I doubt it will happen.
It would be "fun" for you playing in this most brutal, cruel, inhumane Leiningrad-Siege setting? I've found Stalingrad for an "air war simulation" strange already.
Yes. It would be fun. It's a game. Games should be fun. Plus it's already been done in Il2 1946, and it was great fun then. Your moral issues with a collection of 1's and 0's is nobody's problem other than your own.
@@druskies_1 One could read between your defiantly lines that there is moral issue... But anyway. Have fun! I'm looking forward to TF 5.0.
What about China-Burma-India theater?
I'd really like to see different models of the Ju-88. The night fighter version for example. Also more variants of the He-111, such as the H20. The rear static gun should also be implaced on the earlier models also. And last but of course not least, Do-217 Dornier should be added also. All of these aircraft were in activity throughout ww2.
Improvements I'd like to see,
Manual Fuel Tank selection
Putting out flames
Drop Tanks
Option of Jettisoning Fuel
Bomb selection, ex. Belly 1 x 1000 & 1 x 250, being able to release one or the other by choice rather than always the biggest bomb being released first.
Hope this will start a Schwarm of interest and perhaps be a subject matter :-)
I would love Battle of Malta
A modern Pacific Fighters would be amazing!
If we're not going to see Operation Torch and North Africa, Operation Husky and Sicily are definitely my next up on the list. I would love to get my hands on some of the Italian aircraft and some of the lesser known allied ones as well.
Pacific Theatre from Burma to The Solomons :P
Would be great!
until they have navy stuff , will not see any pacific content, hence why Sicily is a good leadin to start building on navy stuff.
pretty sure pacific will not be next thing they do.
I think one of the problems facing the developers at this point is the time frame / plane set. The have German aircraft for 41, 42, 43 and 45. If they did another battle set in 1043, then they have to get another complete German set of new aircraft for that year, OR as you said, use other Axis forces, Italy is the easiest. So my guess is it's 1943, Italy or 1944 anywhere (Normandy or Northern Italy).
I do love the idea of 1940, but I think that is unlikely since the aircraft and the tanks are not as well known.
Korea would also be great and the work on the jet engines in the 262 has given them some experience with this are of modeling (the flight model, not the mesh). So, I guess 1944 Northern Europe, or 195? Korea, but I will hope for 1940.
I'd love to see the Pacific or the Korean theatre! It's been such a long time since we've seen those in a real sim... Sure, DCS offers the Sabre and the 15bis but IMO they truly lack some content from this era. I want to fly a Panther over an adequate map and units :(
Anyway, I'm already really happy with the current aircraft line-up and whatever comes next to IL-2 will surely catch my attention, as Sicily just did!
I was thinking Korean War would be amazing. They already have the planes and Armor from late WW2 that was used in Korea. The Mustang saw a lot of action in Korea as well as the tanks. Add the latest Jets and there you have something to get excited aboit.
If they want another Eastern Front battle there are 2 options. Battle of Leningrad; early war aircraft that where not in BoM and chance to work on navel forces more, Marat battleship. Battle of Bagration; for late war Russian aircraft and would round out the Eastern Front Battles. As for the rest of Europe, I agree with a Sicilian or Italian map. Battle of Malta with Sicily included in the map would be great focus campaign for the devs to cut their teeth on carrier gameplay. As for the pacific I’ll save that for another post as I’ve done a thesis in my head on that. I agree though Battle of Midway or in my head Battle of the Carriers 1942 would be a good place to start.
I agree with the probability of your two projected IL-2 GB next direction episodes (battles of France and Sicily). However, I would like to throw in another dark horse contender: Russia 1944: Operation Bagration & and beyond, e.g. with new Soviet planes like the Yak-3, La-7, P-63, IL-10...
Sicily, Battle of Malta or Operation Torch the invasion of North Africa would be a great new campaign and series that would all fit nicely together with a good mix of new aircraft to fly as well as taking advantage of the aircraft that are already in the game.
I also agree an early French Campaign would be great as well. They really couldn't go wrong with any expansion as long as the maps look great and the added aircraft are correct.
I definitely do not want to see them waste there time and energy with planes that were just prototypes and didn't really take part in aerial combat, if you want that play IL2 1946.
A France map would be really interesting. You could also include some of the aircraft that only really saw service early in the war, such as the Fairley Battle.
Before I even watch your prediction, I'm going to say we will get a general 42/43 Channel theme, I believe we will get a Mosquito , Hawker Typhoon and an earlier Mustang for the Germans we could see a Me 410 and Ju 88 C and the 190s that we don't already have. They may chuck one or 2 Russian planes in as bonus or 2 make up for shifting a little. Personally I would have preffered either Pacific or Korean War
You know how there’s a bat mod for it-2 not this one but the old one imagine that with this one that would be lit
Like with the hawker hunter and stuff
Something about the pacific maybe Battle Of Midway
???The P-51B/C model was not issued to any USAAF units before the end of 1943, well after the Sicily Campaign had come to a close. If there were Mustangs in the Sicily and early parts of the mainland Italian campaigns, they would have been P-51As (with Allison engines).
Pacific Theater! F4Us, Hellcats, Zeros, N1Ks, J2Ms, etc! Lets get it!!!
Spanish Civil war, Sino-Japanese war, the winter war, battle of the Mediterranean (malta, Cyprus, crete, N Afrika, southern Italy), battle of the North sea (Norwich/Essex, Heligoland, Denmark, Norway), KOREAN WAR... because omg I want a twin mustang, and finally, the pacific... the thing about the pacific is that the area that it covers is so huge they would have to break it down into like 20 maps to have all the relevant battles.
Over at the official forum there has been whole multi page threads on various ideas (some good, some not) of what expansion should come next if it ain't the PTO. Unfortunately many people seem to think what they want to be the same as what is likely or viable. I have a preference as to what theater I'd most like to see at some point in the future (Solomon Islands mid '43 to early '44) but I don't think it should be next as I feel there should be something that works with BoBP rather than leaving hanging out in the wind, in much the same way that the three eastern front expansions work in progression.
So what I think should come next is BoN (Battle of Normandy). Long story short, it has the advantages of:
- dovetails nicely with BoBP, both historically and with the career mode.
- naval asset development that carries over to the future PTO.
- aircraft set which spares dev resources, most aircraft being either already here/coming in BoBP or variations of those aircraft, but with some room to add new types if so wanted (e.g Typhoon or Mosquito FB.VI) which also work with BoBP.
- great expansion opportunity for TC. Tank battles in the bocage!
Probably in the minority here but I'd like to see Leningrad. Nice long campaign for the career mode, interesting topography, and can use early, mid, and late war aircraft which gives the devs the chance to knock out the last major gaps in the Eastern Front plane set: I-153, Tu-2, Il-4, Li-2, maybe early LaGG or Yak variants for the Soviets, and Hs-123, Fi-156, Bf-110F, Ju-87B, and Do-217 for the Germans. Not the mention the Finns of course!
I'd love to see earlier theaters - France, even Poland but this would require to include pretty forgotten planes for allied side which makes it nearly impossible to implement.
As a nonplayer I would think maybe the Spanish Civil War might be interesting.
I'm still hoping for Karelian isthmus map for both Winter War (Fiat G.50, Fokker D.XXI, Bristol Blenheim on Finnish side, I-15, I-153, DB-3, SB-2 on Soviet side) and Continuation War (B-239, Morane Saulnier with Mörkö Morane as collector plane, Curtis Hawk 75). Most continuation war Soviet planes are already in the game..
BOF 1940 is a very nice theatre of war. It came too short in the old Il-2. The Italy map in old Il-2 was very nice caused by the landscape. High mountains, green fields and the mediter. sea. I flew a lot of missions online on this map in several online wars. Maybe we will see a Monte Cassino map too?
What I like to see is a channel map like CanonUK made it in old Il-2 as a mod. Early Focke Wulf, jabo raids, Spit IX, Operation Cerberus etc. This map is interesting between 1942-1944. One of my most favorit maps.
I made the north sea map as a mod for old IL-2. It came into several mod packs and it was THE MAP for the B-17 fans, P47 fans and Mustang cowboys vs. Bf109, FW190 etc.. I spent a lot of time to make the airfield historical correct. I got mails from the UK, from the netherlands and from Germany. This map whould also work fine with se so called "Westfeldzug" 1940 when the germans went into the netherlands. I personally love the russian theatre but at the moment I need something different. The czech mapin old Il-2 was brilliant too. Very detailed and done with much love.
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Battle of Normandy is what I want. P-51-B, P-47D-25, Hawker Typhoon, B-26 Marauder, Me-410, FW-190-F8
I just want Flying Circus to be finished
Absolutely!
IL-2 Roadmap:
2020 IL-2 Good Battles
2021 IL-2 Mediocre Battles
2022 IL-2 Go Home You're Drunk Battles
...In all seriousness though, I can't wait for experimental planes and user build missions to be added like in Il-2 1946
Its a non topic, not a mistery. Next is going to be Battle of Midway, then Korean War theatre. Pretty much everybody playing the game knows that
There was no typhoons in sicily landings or in any italy or n africa campaign, also p-51s were a-36(P-51A) not b or c models, P-38s P-40s P-39s were heavy used in husky from american side it was still to early for P-51s and P-47s, also you would have to have bases in Tunisia.
also from that same event it looks like anouncment on new plans is coming in november so not long to wait
Probably battle of Britain expansion, tying in the previous game, but I would kill for a pacific theater
In Addition to the bombing campaign you could include 332nd USAAF FG escorts.... p51s (Red Tails) from Ramatelli, Italy
I'd like to see a future pack where I can fly all the major American planes. The Mustang, the Corsair, the Lightning, the Thunderbolt, and the Hellcat. The major German planes I think are great for this pack are the Focke-Wulf 190, the Bf 109, the Me 262, the Ta 152, and the Bf 109 Zwilling. The British would have the Spitfire 24, the Tempest, the Vampire, and the Meteor. The Russian planes would be the late Yaks, Las, and MiGs. The Japanese would have their A7M, Ki-84, and Ki-43-II. Maybe also there could be some heavy fighters from all sides and some bombers and attack aircraft. I'd like to see some U.S. torpedo bombers and attack aircraft. What would make me want to play this game? Seeing American planes in it that perform well. I'd fly them first, and then I'd stick around to fly the other stuff I like.
Battle of Sicily is far too late for it to be a flagship inclusion, but all I want are CR.42 Falco's back in IL-2, maybe as a collector plane like the Po-2? I'm probably only one of dozens that wishes for it though
Although, if they're super stuck into late-war stuff, there's even a chance they could go for the early Korean War, would give them a single plane on a carrier in the F4U to flesh out carrier stuff without "having to be fair to the IJN" as getting info on a lot of the IJN stuff is pretty hard these days, introducing some things like La-7's and Il-10's while keeping things like Yak-9's, Yak-3's and even Po-2's to flesh the place out while keeping up with later aircraft such as the B-26 and some crossover with later model P-51's on the UN side, although, Korea is pretty plainly the forgotten war, so it'll forever be a pipe dream huh?
What about the aleutian campaign? You have some the US aircraft already, will help developing the Japanese aircraft but without major carrier ops. Some great footage already filmed at the time on the air war
If it was Blitz you could add polish PZL P.11s etc. I would love to see Spanish Civil War, early i-16, I-15, ME109B, and the CR32, for me this period is the mecca of dog-fighting as bi and mono planes punch it out with monoplanes coming out on top.
My vote would be the Pacific. 1C would make a lot of money for all the different aircraft possibilities that people would want like the Zero and F4U. Maybe A Guadacanal Map featuring carrier battles or Okinawa. Sicily would be great too. You already have Axis planes available to support it.
The hurricane is my favorite ww2 plane. Wish I had the chance to see it fly irl. Such a pretty bird.
Hey, before making the great move to Pacific Theater which would be amazing, I love the idea of Battle of France or Winter War Finland or even the Baltics which I believe would still provide enough interesting planes for both sides. I read somewhere about Normandy for some more late models but not sure where AXIS would come into play... As much as I want to see razorback versions of P-51 and P-47 among others (B-26?) ASAP, the only reason I would avoid MTO/Italy/Malta related expansions just yet is to leave room for Team Fusion to come out of North Africa assuming they are still viable? Admittedly, they seem to be taking a long time for 5.0 however so not sure if that should play a factor, but staying positive. It would be great if we had product coming out of both groups! What do we think?
How about some Eastern European axis aircraft? There's loads, just using Romania you get all these just off the top of my head PZL 11,24,37,38 IAR 80,81 Bloch 210 Hurricane MK1 Blenheim MKIV JRS79B
I want to see a really large scale map that would make sense to be played in large bombers such as the Lancaster or the B17. Ideally set either during the Battle of Britain (city bombing raids) or during the battle of midway ( naval gameplay maybe even carriers)
These would allow to expand on British and American aircraft. Because I swear if they do Poland or Finland or anything that involves Russia I’m gonna be so happy to buy another version of the bf109 and il2
It could either go back to earlier periods in WW2. I'd like to see some Mediterranean action like around North Africa and then going into Southern Italy a-la Catch 22, we'd get more British and Italian machines and some nice variations of US and German planes as you pointed out...or I could see go into Korea.
I’m going to be totally out there with my guess, because of wishful thinking.
IL-2 Korea
UN Aircraft:
F-86 Sabre
F-51D Mustang
F-4U Corsair (carrier ops)
F-80 Shooting Star
Soviet Aircraft:
Mig-15bis
IL-10
Yak-9P
Mig-9 (the PLAAF had these, but never sent them to Korea. Thought these would be better than an La-9 though, and could match against the F-80 or F-84)
Collector Aircraft:
F-84 ThunderJet (UN)
La-11 (Soviet)
Honorable mentions are the F-82 Twin Mustang, F9F Panther, B-26 Invader, RAAF Gloster Meteor, and the Sea Fury.
Air battle for Malta would be the ideal for me.But they will probably do Korea.
I would love for them to do something with Cold War jets in Korea, they've shown they know what to do when it comes to jet aircraft with the ME-262. Plus DCS needs competition.
Sicily/Italy would be good for all the reasons you've listed. I'd like to see the Dornier 217 as well, that's been on my mind for a while. I do like your French campaign idea too. I've already said Bagration would be a good addition to Tank Warfare. Burma could be good if they want to practice some Japanese theatre without the water but that depends on how many of their own toes they'd tread on with regards to aircraft - I'm thinking Japanese ones here. Ki-43s/44s could be good here if they wanted to leave Zeros for the Pacific? I'd really like them to do Burma as a nod to all those people who fought there who are largely forgotten. also when you look at it you have Americans, British, Japanese, Chinese, Indians - which would include Pakistan then. Tank Warfare could be interesting with Stuarts and Lee/Grants, plus some Japanese tanks. Bunker busting could be interesting to allow your infantry to advance, that might be a mission thing though?
I'd like Guadalcanal etc in the Pacific too. Treat the Pacific like they do Europe and go where fewer people tread. I don't mind them covering the popular areas as well but I'd really like them to show people the less well trodden theatres.
Eli love the c model p51 with Malcom hood, if they can get bombers in I would like to see invasion of Italy 1943 long bomb runs into the oil fields with lots of early to mid war acft
It's going to be the Pacific, and I don't agree with them not bringing Cliffs of Dover. They are already making everyone repay for Rise of Flight. So if they are doing that, then I don't see why they won't bring back Battle of Britain
They put that on the back burner some months ago, which makes me think they've got some phase they want to tackle first. But hey, I'd love it if the Pacific theatre happens sooner rather than later...banzai!
Ehhh I don't think Rise of Flight and CLoD are comparable. CLoD relied incredibly heavily on its community to get it to a playable state and now its a pretty solid game, albeit itll never recover from its rough launch.
Rise of Flight was a full, well rounded package made by a team that worked with a similar mindset to IL-2 and was able to effectively begin porting without (comparably) too much cost or time (minus retexturing and the new physics).
CLoD would require consulting with community members who made important mods/scripts and would take a lot more time and money to port, something that would take time away from other development. Remember, Rise of Flight is a different subsection of the company. Flying Circus does not take time away from IL-2 development.
@@gormros still being charged a ton of money for less content than i had already had with rof. They wont need to get all the help, all they would do is port the aircraft from pre blitz and add finishing touches and charge us another full game lol
@@justalldamnmotorsports2419 You're being charged a tonne of money for the best simulation of the planes currently added there is. Rise of Flight still exists as its own game, Flying Circus is purely to begin moving it to the next generation of combat flight sims (of which there's only two commercial games, IL-2 Great Battles and DCS). I agree its expensive but the devs already made a forum post talking about how sim development is incredibly, incredibly expensive and time consuming, and will never be particularly profitable due to it being so niche. Becuase of that each module costs as much as a full game. But remember, IL-2 is actually much more competitively priced and accessible than DCS, despite being a fairly on-par simulation (it wasn't always but IL-2 has undeniably been catching up to DCS in terms of full-sim).
@@gormros im not too worried about dcs, dcs is more of a hardcore learn the real aircraft type simulation. I wont buy flying circus its my only real problem with GB. Maybe the bomber controversy because i dont believe that sob story about performance. Plenty of games out there that push way past the limits IL2 is
Pacific theater and then Korea would be highest on my wishlist.
To be honest, whatever it is, I'm going to buy into it at some point.
My guess is its Flying Circuis vol.2. But outside of that, I have NO idea what it could be.
I'd LOVE for it to be the PTO, but like you said, it's unlikely. So if it's not those two, I have no idea.
Sicilly sounds cool, like that idea. But I am one of those weird Americans who loves the Eastern front and Finland especially, so I would love to see a Finnish expansion or a late war Eastern front one to round off 44/45 there.
Malta would be good, lots of italian stuff could be in that plus room to add sea planes, Coastal Command sub hunting in PBYs, Liberators and shooting things up in Beaufighters, Fleet Air Arm - Convoy protection, attacking taranto, going after the Bismark and Tirpitz.
Japanese, US and UK aircraft are already in the works ;)
The Yak 9’s and Hurricane are parting gifts as we leave the Eastern Front for the PTO.
i think the same, but not uk, and thats why hurricane is collector with yak9s, as next one is probably Midway so you give british and russain only players to have option to get collector airplanes atleast if they dont like USA and Japan ones. Germans usealy play on american side in pto so you got them with bnz wildcats :)
@@countzero7 - Midway would be awesome
@@countzero7 - I'm really hoping for the A-26 Invader.. Doubtful, but maybe one day. They played a big role in both the ETO and PTO.