It's like a game design student procrastinated for an entire semester then the night before finals, threw this together, got mad that their grade ended up being a flat 0 and released this on steam at a high price to "prove the teacher wrong".
You are literally the ONLY person I would ever expect to willingly pay $170 for something like that, and still complement it. Also, I think the reason the jump button was broken is because, like the art, the code for the game was also made in MS Paint.
I think I understand why it doesn't jump always. I think you have to press the button at a time were it calculates the next timestep. So jumping is a frameperfect trick.
Ya, pretty sure you are right. but that's IF it only detects the press, and not the keydown state. Because if it can detect the latter, he could have just kept holding the spacebar lol. I kinda think that might have been the case, because it it was really frame perfect, I'd have actually expected it to be even LESS consistent lol.
My guess would be that the jump script is waiting for model to be on the ground, but the collision box doesn't perfectly match up, so it thinks it's already in the air
If this game was made in unity, I assume the developer checked for inputs in FixedUpdate instead of Update. FixedUpdate is for stuff like physics calculation (which was probably used for the controlling the character). However FixedUpdate is not called every frame, so inputs like pressing a key can get lost if pressed at the wrong time.
What do you mean with fixedupdate not getting called every frame? The engine calls FixedUpdate once every 0.02 seconds, or 50x per second, independently of framerate. Yeah it doesn't call every frame but I remember that's not an issue for input detection, though I'd have to go back and check on some of my old projects to confirm.
As you said, FixedUpdate is not called every frame. This is not an issue for some inputs like GetAxis that return a floating point value. But boolean inputs like pressing a key is frame perfect, so skipping frames with FixedUpdate will miss those inputs
@@loermansw I believe the issue would come from also using onPress methods for input detection, which iirc only registers the input exactly once on the frame it is pressed. If implemented in fixed update, then there's a chance it won't line up with the actual frames and miss the one where the button press was reported. Been a minute since I used unity though, educated guess at best
@@loermansw I don't even code like that but... "What do you mean it's not called every frame?" Then literally a sentence later: "Yeah, it doesn't call every frame..." That was hilarious to read. Just take a bit of time to think through what you're saying. I mean this in the most benign way possible btw
oh you young whippersnappers. back in MY day we had keyboards and mice using the PS2 jack, not USB, that sent interrupt signals directly to the CPU! no need for an input to be detected when it's punching the CPU in the face to tell it there is one
Please let the play time be less than 2 hours, for refund purposes. The steam page even tells you to refund it. Edit: I have now finished the video. And yes, less than an hour. 0/10 game.
Fun fact. You can refund a game after 2 hours. You can even refund dlcs and things. You just need to make a claim and wait for an employee to confirm it. Happens in only a few hours every time for me. (Probably take longer if you dont do it during business hours). No guarantee if you'll get the refund, but I havent had 1 denied yet.
@@notbob555 under 2 hours you can just refund for any reason, i assume if you tell them that it took a long time to get used to the controls and you still didnt like it, they would probably still give a refund if it was like 2-4 hours
when making gravity, if the collider touches the ground and the developer sets the vertical velocity to zero instead of something small to keep pushing the character down, it can cause it to be a bit janky for on ground detection.
After a free game that is surprisingly well made, there's this... Well, can't complain, DF is entertaining regardless, and cudos to Editor-san major skills in making this!
QUICK, DF, YOU BEAT THE GAME IN 40 MINUTES! you can STILL GET A REFUND If you play a game under 2 hours and its in your library for less than 2 weeks, then you can get a refund
video games are DANGEROUSLY funny /overstimulating everyone who plays videogames, you deserve what you get from doing it, (or preferably... what you LOSE from doing it)
This game makes me cry from it’s beauty, I feel as though the greatest artists would nay they definitely will come back just to get a glimpse at this. The greatest philosophers would ponder this game’s existence of why, how, and mainly when did this come to be? What is said game’s purpose? It might be to bring peace on Earth because of the price only the richest of people would buy and play this, then playing this would lead to them becoming the purest of people on Earth! Then they will train to be stronger than Goku and become the protectors of Earth, after that they would form the Z fighters!! This is when they would try to find the One Piece! That is all😊😊 9999999/9999999
i don't think ive seen a TH-camr criticize a game so much, in all fairness the game deserves it i would rate this game "you fell into a pit" out of "screaming eternally in the depths of hell where every once in a while the lord of darkness says "skill issue" to you and leaves."
It's called the cost equivalency fallacy. "It's so expensive it must be high quality or well thought out" then when a fool and their money get parted the suffer the sunk cost fallacy "i paid so much i have to use this or keep it" and the worst part is how many sales this game has.
the jump button not working is actually genius, because its a very obvious but sneaky way to pander the game time! that way you cant refund!! 10/10 would buy 4 copies
My bet is that the unreliable jump is the dev preventing the player from double-jumping. Instead of detecting when the character was touching the ground, they put a timer on being able to use jump again....and set it for way too long; probably to prevent it from being used again while halfway down a pit.
I honestly can't believe you suffered through that whole experience xD I would've probably just yeeted it as soon as I figured the jump button issue- As for why the jump isn't working I suppose with my limited knowledge of C# there's probably some arbitrary variable that needs to be met- Maybe it generates a random number on space bar press between 1 and 10 and if the number is 6 it jumps or something xD
Truly a game of all time. Its got many things like graphics, controls, and levels. I'm sure its got a rating out of ten. All that for the low, low, price of almoat 200$ truly a game you can look at and say that exists.
As a programmer. There are right and wrong ways to do collisions. My guess is this uses the wrong method and checks every object. So why is jump so bad. Well you can only start a jump when on the ground. So check to see if you're on ground. But it gets worse. In most modern game engines code checks can take a maximum time. So long checks might get spread over more then one frame. If there isn't a jump check on the frame you click for it, guess what, you get sweet fa. But I hear you say that sounds stupid. Yes yes it is but also not using the premade example of platforming. I know this because I made a flash game with the same problem ... Then went and learnt how to do it properly.
DF, wanted to thank you for your many game suggestions over the years. I think this game has replay-ability coming out of its ears. Edit: sorry, that was my ears... and my melted brain leaking out. My bad. Still, love your stuff, DF!
when it comes to the question-ability of the jump, I assume it checks if you are clipped into the ground to let you jump; this would lead to inconsistencies because of the collision system. This is just my first thought as I have made my fair share of questionable 2d platforming engines. Also if this was hard to read, I’m sorry, I wrote this at 1 in the morning. ok goodnight
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It's like a game design student procrastinated for an entire semester then the night before finals, threw this together, got mad that their grade ended up being a flat 0 and released this on steam at a high price to "prove the teacher wrong".
I can do a better game in 1 hour.
@@murathanbalikhonestly i actually believe you
@@murathanbalikI can do a worse game in 1 hour
@@Mori_Kaida Forgive me but I kinda doubt it 😀
@@murathanbalik no seriously, I know NOTHING about coding or anything.
This game is so well made it should be double the money
It should be double this price if it's on a 90% sale
Omg thank you finally someone who uses sarcasm
TRIPLE IT!!
Nah it needs to be 100 times the amount bcuz it’s really cheap for this gameplay
Double it and give it to the next person
This is actually genious, it was probably made in a few hours and even if a single person buys it, the creator gets huge profit
except steam support will allow you to refund it within 2 hours. And he finished it in 45ish minutes. Here's hoping he refunded it.
@@recca01982why would you refund this masterpiece?
@@aparou647it was made in 10 minutes
Until you realize their is a refund option
@@recca01982there is one review from a person who had 18 hours in it. So the creator did probably make profit.
You are literally the ONLY person I would ever expect to willingly pay $170 for something like that, and still complement it.
Also, I think the reason the jump button was broken is because, like the art, the code for the game was also made in MS Paint.
Lol
This is a beautiful comment, thank you for making me laugh
🤣
I think it was maybe made in PowerPoint instead.
I'd say it's a -10/10. A game all AAA studios should aspire to be.
-17/10
20/10
I surprised it isnt EA who made it
I have to… LEARN GRAMMAR
@@RealGiyuTomioka bro he clearly doesnt speak english as his first language dont be cringe
Well sorry I guess
@@BlitzTheFoxi Yeah Im Ukrainian
Well do you want me to delete the comment as it’s clearly going to cause world war 4?
I think I understand why it doesn't jump always. I think you have to press the button at a time were it calculates the next timestep. So jumping is a frameperfect trick.
Ya, pretty sure you are right.
but that's IF it only detects the press, and not the keydown state.
Because if it can detect the latter, he could have just kept holding the spacebar lol. I kinda think that might have been the case, because it it was really frame perfect, I'd have actually expected it to be even LESS consistent lol.
I have no idea what this means XD
@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 in layman's terms the jump check doesn't account for if the player jumped while the program was busy checking other stuff
@@fuzzyotterpaws4395its kind of like every now and then the game asks you if you want to jump and otherwise it ignores you.
My guess would be that the jump script is waiting for model to be on the ground, but the collision box doesn't perfectly match up, so it thinks it's already in the air
I love how DF wanted to see a dragon spewing fireballs in an animated fashion, and 100 odd steps later dragon with animated fireballs. Foresight.
This is the first time i can recall ever seeing DF being genuinely annoyed playing a game. Wow
As an indie game dev, I can attest to how beautifully made this game is. It takes pure skill and genius to make something so... whatever this is. 😅
Suddenly I have confidence in my ability to develop a game.
😂😂😂 DF being snarky with his enotionless calm voice really cracks me up.
100% I would be SO Enraged. HAHAHAH
Just the sound of the spacebar being pressed 50x per second in the background every time he tries to jump killed me lol
That price tag is either insanity, a typo, or an intentional deterrence.
If this game was made in unity, I assume the developer checked for inputs in FixedUpdate instead of Update. FixedUpdate is for stuff like physics calculation (which was probably used for the controlling the character). However FixedUpdate is not called every frame, so inputs like pressing a key can get lost if pressed at the wrong time.
What do you mean with fixedupdate not getting called every frame? The engine calls FixedUpdate once every 0.02 seconds, or 50x per second, independently of framerate. Yeah it doesn't call every frame but I remember that's not an issue for input detection, though I'd have to go back and check on some of my old projects to confirm.
As you said, FixedUpdate is not called every frame. This is not an issue for some inputs like GetAxis that return a floating point value. But boolean inputs like pressing a key is frame perfect, so skipping frames with FixedUpdate will miss those inputs
@@loermansw I believe the issue would come from also using onPress methods for input detection, which iirc only registers the input exactly once on the frame it is pressed. If implemented in fixed update, then there's a chance it won't line up with the actual frames and miss the one where the button press was reported.
Been a minute since I used unity though, educated guess at best
@@loermansw I don't even code like that but...
"What do you mean it's not called every frame?"
Then literally a sentence later:
"Yeah, it doesn't call every frame..."
That was hilarious to read. Just take a bit of time to think through what you're saying. I mean this in the most benign way possible btw
oh you young whippersnappers. back in MY day we had keyboards and mice using the PS2 jack, not USB, that sent interrupt signals directly to the CPU! no need for an input to be detected when it's punching the CPU in the face to tell it there is one
Please let the play time be less than 2 hours, for refund purposes. The steam page even tells you to refund it.
Edit: I have now finished the video. And yes, less than an hour. 0/10 game.
Fun fact. You can refund a game after 2 hours. You can even refund dlcs and things. You just need to make a claim and wait for an employee to confirm it. Happens in only a few hours every time for me. (Probably take longer if you dont do it during business hours).
No guarantee if you'll get the refund, but I havent had 1 denied yet.
@@notbob555 under 2 hours you can just refund for any reason, i assume if you tell them that it took a long time to get used to the controls and you still didnt like it, they would probably still give a refund if it was like 2-4 hours
I played a game for 2 hours 5 minutes and it got denied. I stil have the game and never played it again....
@@0fficialr3d i had 2 and a half hours on dark souls and i got a refund because i told them it made me destroy my keyboard stand... which it did.
@@HelioV1 I'm well aware my guy
when making gravity, if the collider touches the ground and the developer sets the vertical velocity to zero instead of something small to keep pushing the character down, it can cause it to be a bit janky for on ground detection.
Ubi Soft & EA are taking notes from this game.
10/10 really beautiful artwork control movements 10000000/10 the money well spent,the children crying over their wasted money,truly beautiful!
After a free game that is surprisingly well made, there's this... Well, can't complain, DF is entertaining regardless, and cudos to Editor-san major skills in making this!
I wanna see a speedrun of this
This game is so well made i couldn't even finish the video
I just confirmed that I can watch DF play any crap for 20 minutes without question. and have fun in the process. Love iu
QUICK, DF,
YOU BEAT THE GAME IN 40 MINUTES! you can STILL GET A REFUND
If you play a game under 2 hours and its in your library for less than 2 weeks, then you can get a refund
I love how at a certain point you can hear DF furiously mashing the space button in the bg 😂
I love that DF couldn't even BS at the end. He went "0" and went on with his day, trying to forget what he just experienced.
video games are DANGEROUSLY funny /overstimulating
everyone who plays videogames, you deserve what you get from doing it, (or preferably... what you LOSE from doing it)
This looks like GameMaker
The jump issue is probably because it doesn't see floor beneath your character. I ran into it when I mad a similar game
This game makes me cry from it’s beauty, I feel as though the greatest artists would nay they definitely will come back just to get a glimpse at this. The greatest philosophers would ponder this game’s existence of why, how, and mainly when did this come to be? What is said game’s purpose? It might be to bring peace on Earth because of the price only the richest of people would buy and play this, then playing this would lead to them becoming the purest of people on Earth! Then they will train to be stronger than Goku and become the protectors of Earth, after that they would form the Z fighters!! This is when they would try to find the One Piece! That is all😊😊 9999999/9999999
I find it so funny how you can tell he's frustrated despite sounding so emotionless.
100/100, a perfect game that taught me the importance of collecting my unhappiness.
i think this is the first game that he has uploaded that he did not enjoy at all
ofcourse DF spends 200 dollars on a game after a free game
The gun fire for no reason 🤣🔥best editor
i don't think ive seen a TH-camr criticize a game so much, in all fairness the game deserves it
i would rate this game "you fell into a pit" out of "screaming eternally in the depths of hell where every once in a while the lord of darkness says "skill issue" to you and leaves."
Still better than some release day AAA titles.
This looks like the type of game that even pirating it would give me buyers remorse
The best game of the decade
This looks like something that should of come out 40 years ago.
It's called the cost equivalency fallacy. "It's so expensive it must be high quality or well thought out" then when a fool and their money get parted the suffer the sunk cost fallacy "i paid so much i have to use this or keep it" and the worst part is how many sales this game has.
The jumping made me remember myself whenever I try to make the jump mechanic first attempt
For a man who loves his auto-clicker, DF is strangely reluctant to use his auto-keypresser.
the jump button not working is actually genius, because its a very obvious but sneaky way to pander the game time! that way you cant refund!! 10/10 would buy 4 copies
POV the Devs seeing someone bought their game:🤐🤣😯⁉️
I feel like DF will be the only one to actually pay for this game.
And yet the dev still made a profit
@@Aesculathehyena nah on steam u can refund a game if u have played less then 2 hours
@@michaelhammond1389Yes, but even if only DF didn't refund it, that is still a profit.
i'm surprised DF didn't give this game a -10/10 score.
I cant explain how beautiful it is❤😢
"They say it's good no matter what the actual quality is..."
Apple moment
your sacrifice did not go unappreciated
My life has been changed by this. I finally got a house, wife, kids, and this game.
0 cost money, 200 profit, the dev won
Gotta love how the greatest games are free, and the most low quality games seem to cost way too much money
Something about him suffering for once and not the game, feels fair 😂
This isn't a game, it's a social commentary
I love how you can barely hear him smashing his keyboard to jump
I like watching DF, he spends money so I don’t have to x)
DF had to pull every ounce of patients he has for this game
I feel like this game was specifically designed and priced to tempt DF and only DF into buying it because we all know he wouldn't be able to resist
editor seems to be a nice guy
And by buying it, you've encouraged the creator to make a DLC!
I've never seen DF rage before, he's scary when he's mad, so passive aggy
its either a social experiment, satire, or something special will happen once you do the game a particular amount of times
amazing and worth the money 20/10
Man really went "I need some tax deductions. What's the most money I can spend quickly?"
My bet is that the unreliable jump is the dev preventing the player from double-jumping. Instead of detecting when the character was touching the ground, they put a timer on being able to use jump again....and set it for way too long; probably to prevent it from being used again while halfway down a pit.
Why am I watching this? Eating dinner. :) I always have a DF video on during or after dinner. Rating? 8/10, needs more dragons. :)
Ngl this looks exactly like the first game i made, except my jump worked at least
I honestly can't believe you suffered through that whole experience xD I would've probably just yeeted it as soon as I figured the jump button issue-
As for why the jump isn't working I suppose with my limited knowledge of C# there's probably some arbitrary variable that needs to be met- Maybe it generates a random number on space bar press between 1 and 10 and if the number is 6 it jumps or something xD
U know u f-ed up when Df apologizes for makin u watch 🤣🤣🤣
I must confess I was totally caught up in the storyline.....specially the plot twist with the end boss.....totally worth every single penny 👍😇
This game fills me with senseless rage and I'm not even the one playing.
Well you asked for a dragon and u got your dragon
You can almost taste the passive-agressiveness in his voice
I could buy every single DLC in the sims and not get as much entertainment compared to this video
Truly a game of all time. Its got many things like graphics, controls, and levels. I'm sure its got a rating out of ten. All that for the low, low, price of almoat 200$ truly a game you can look at and say that exists.
As a programmer. There are right and wrong ways to do collisions.
My guess is this uses the wrong method and checks every object.
So why is jump so bad. Well you can only start a jump when on the ground. So check to see if you're on ground. But it gets worse. In most modern game engines code checks can take a maximum time. So long checks might get spread over more then one frame.
If there isn't a jump check on the frame you click for it, guess what, you get sweet fa.
But I hear you say that sounds stupid. Yes yes it is but also not using the premade example of platforming.
I know this because I made a flash game with the same problem ... Then went and learnt how to do it properly.
DF, wanted to thank you for your many game suggestions over the years. I think this game has replay-ability coming out of its ears.
Edit: sorry, that was my ears... and my melted brain leaking out. My bad.
Still, love your stuff, DF!
😂
It’s pretty nice to have to press the space bar 10x to jump, I have to press the space bar 100x
DF needs a go fund me for this missile
I watched every ad with the volume on. R.I.P, bro.
dangerouslyfunny is dangerously serous about being dangerouslyfunny
DF you make some of the best videos I've ever seen. keep it up you are doing great!
11/10
Never seen a game thats more worth it
i give it a Josh Strife Hayes/10
I think this game is truly a 1/1 game
4 cases of testicular torsion out of 9 car accidents.
I give this game 7 packs of noodles out of crippling student debt
when it comes to the question-ability of the jump, I assume it checks if you are clipped into the ground to let you jump; this would lead to inconsistencies because of the collision system. This is just my first thought as I have made my fair share of questionable 2d platforming engines. Also if this was hard to read, I’m sorry, I wrote this at 1 in the morning. ok goodnight
From the thumbnail i was sure the MC was a paintcan. After watching the video, I'm sure the MC is in fact, a paint can.
DF you should make your own game
This is truly GOTY with what the price is. All they have to do is pay off the people with the income made.
Yo, can we talk about how DF unintentionally predicted the dragons in this game!
10/10 game completely worth the money
You think I’m joking, but I’m not
Oh man, DF really fell into a pit to be playing this. 😂
On a scale from pam to sebastian it gets a mayor lewis
This is probably the same amount of money he spends on a free game with micro transactions. The budget is perfectly fine after this episode
You Fell Into A Pit out of 100
Never seen df rage this hard
ahh the dry sarcasm, my favourite
This game is like every early access game!