Schmincke Super Granulating Watercolor Review SHIRE DESERT VOLCANO Sets, DIY Mixtures, Paint Demo
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- Schmincke Super Granulation watercolors - Shire Desert and Volcano swatch cards, DIY mixtures, paint a beach scene and duck. - Show more for links! -
Schmincke Super Granulating colors can be found on Jacksons UK/Worldwide:
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That duck's beak is my inspiration for the day. Not sure I've ever seen anything so simply painted result in such a successful three dimensional rendering. It's "Cricking" poetry.
That beak was lovely, wasn't it? I'd cracked open my swatch book and had cobalts with lunar blacks, and they weren't bad, but now I'm wanting to try the same mixtures with `invisible` the very light-valued Volcano Yellow I have sitting right here! I can't imagine how it would make a difference, though, so that Shire Grey might have earned a spot in my March budget!
Did she say that one left a binder shine? Some of the half-pans I picked up had a shine, but the few full sized tubes didn't, so I thought the shine was relegated to half-pans. (I'll have to watch this again tomorrow when I'm more awake! 😂)
@@MelanCholy2001 Thank you both, I really enjoyed working on that duck beak using Shire Grey. I found that my Volcano Red tube is also prone to leaving a shiny binder gloss, I do not believe this issue is limited to just PY159 or the pans, but rather all the colors in this recent release. They all feel a bit weaker and binder heavy compared to previous releases, but the PY159 mixtures felt the weakest requiring much more scrubbing to get any notable color - which added to the binder build up when trying to get a strong masstone.
I was able to replicate the Shire Grey using Cobalt Blue Deep PB74 from either Roman Szmal or Schmincke, mixed with Mars Black also from either. I didn't see much yellow in the premade mixture Shire Grey - however, I will say that even a little bit of it does add some more texture to mixtures. The Volcano Yellow PY159 does enhance the texture clumping of the pigments, so you may find that it gives your mixtures a granulation boost even if you don't see much color. Hope that helps :)
Thank you for doing these types of videos! I love the information you give, along with color recommendations for alternative paints to use. In the long run, you will have saved me a fortune from buying "all the pretty colors" lol. I'm learning to play around and mix my own. Have a blessed day! ❤️
I just heard about these sets yesterday (I have really been isolating myself from media lol) and knew I'd find great info here :) Thank you for your in depth look! That duck is so cute, and I totally agree with Carol that you rendered it beautifully.
(would love to see you paint with these tho! :D )
That shire blue is gorgeous 🤤🤤
Really enjoy watching the artwork come to life. Its so realistic ! Its beautiful! Thanks again. 😁
Your videos are so informative and your paintings are beautiful. Thank you!
This has been sooooo helpful, thank you so much for sharing!
I have been so inspired by your incredible library of color information. I decided to redo my palette and was shocked to find so many colors that I use that are not lightfast. I have spent the last three days totally absorbed in your color swatches and helpful videos. Your information and knowledge has been so wonderful! With your suggestions, I now have a palette of colors that make sense. I never really studied granulating colors and making my own color combos. I am so happy to have found your site. Thank you so much for sharing all your hard work! I wish you much success. Gail Dolphin
So nice and well researched video 😌 Thank you for the breakdown of the “recipes” of the colours! I have narrowed my wish-list down to a few of the ingredient colours now and will try to mix my own versions, as well as other new combinations 😊
Beautiful painting of the duck and shells. Love the colors. Thank you for the helpful review of the mixes 🥰👍👍
I just love your videos and your work, so educational. As beginner watercolorist I find it very useful to educate myself before I buy new paints and your database is just awesome. And your art simply fantastic ♥️♥️♥️🧚♂️. Thank you ❤️
Thanks, Kimberly, for another useful video. I’m still not a huge granulation fan but I still appreciate this video. It helps me identify the single-pigment granulating paints in case I wish to compile a granulating palette in the future.
Superb video, with helpful information as always. I love your focus on DIY mixtures, so many companies hype up their mixes, wanting you to think you can only get it from them. I do agree that the Volcano Red's texture gives it some unique value, and it definitely seems worth picking up. You did so well with both paintings, I can't get over how perfect the water-to-beach blend looks! Thanks for sharing!
This was very helpful for me as I was considering 3 of the granulating sets but now think I will try to create my own, as I am a newbie everything is experimental with me! But I love granulating colours and look for this in my paint choices a lot. Thank you for this video, which I will watch a few times to garner all the info.
This was very helpful! Thanks
Thank you! I totally agree with your assessment. When the supergranulating colours came out I bought a couple but quickly notced I could mix my own with the single pigments I have - as I typically don't need a lot of any colour for one painting. Of course I had to buy the volcano yellow and red right away to see what they are like! 😁👍🏻😘
I would love trying to replicate that lovely Shire Green. Thank you, Kim.
Hi Kimberly! This was really interesting and informative, thank you. I bought the volcano and desert set a while ago but haven’t yet got around to swatching them out. After seeing a couple of videos on the volcano and desert sets in particular, I am a bit confused by their intention but I guess I will have to spend a bit of time playing with them to find out! Nonetheless, I really appreciate you sharing your findings and thoughts with us as your knowledge and experience goes far beyond mine! Thanks once again 😊
I'm absolutely fascinated! The information you provide is invaluable. In college I work in the Ceramics Department making glazes and I was always intrigued by the pigment names and their origin. I'm always driving to expand my knowledge on these subjects mostly just because of my deep passion for color. Thank you so very much
My favorite youtuber strikes again. Love that you do such informative videos with paintings to boot.
Thank you, I'm happy to hear that and appreciate your kind comment! Happy painting :)
Brilliant video! I mixed two of the earlier releases but I haven’t had a go at the Volcano, Desert and Shire ones (these are the ones I really do feel drawn to buy) so I might try mixing these first before I spend the money. Shiny art supplies….it’s a weakness 🤭😉😍 Thanks for taking the time to do this 🙂🌺
Thank you for all this info, so interesting (as usual). I am loving the Volcano Brown right now, it lays on brown but I love how it dries with a lot of red separation 💕
It is an interesting color! It can go down much less textural on smooth paper or with less water... but looks so dramatic when used thickly in really wet washes on rough paper. Happy painting :)
Thanks again. I have gone right thro7gh your website for information which I am so grateful you have put so much time and effort into.The 2 from the Volcano set are now on my to buy list. I just wish postage to Australia wasn't so expensive as I really want the Manganese colour to add to my collection.
Everything is so darn expensive, it's super hard to get things around the world affordably nowadays! I struggle with getting things from afar too, I wish we could just open a little portal to toss art supplies to each other lol :)
@@KimberlyCrick I'm in Australia and I actually have a couple of tubes of paint that I wanted to send some half pans of to you. I know it's not much but it's better than nothing if you are interested.
Thanks for another brilliant review. This does give me ideas for exploring my own mixtures. I can't see myself using a whole tube of most of the colours, though I will give serious thought to getting the volcano red, that looks like it will be a useful addition. I only have Jackson's and White Nights PR108s, so adding this pigment from another brand could be very useful. The cobalt dark green PG26 also appears to have a lot of value as a mixing pigment, this might be another addition to consider, probably from Roman Szmal. I'm so glad that I discovered, through you and some of the other amazing artists on TH-cam, the importance of single pigments and how to mix my own colours. Thanks for the amazing resource.
Wow, wish I'd found your study of pigments and your vast labor of love earlier. I've already purchased way too many "convenience" colors. Now to learn which ones I want to mix myself and which to purchase again. Thanks Dr. Color.
ooohh I really like that shire blue and desert green
Thank you again, Queen of Pigments! I'm replicating all these mixes thanks to your wonderful ideas. Love & Peace. #standwithukraine
Your insights and knowledge is always so helpful in making new paint selections!!! Thank you kindly for all that you do and for sharing of your passion. For me I initially chose Forest Blue, Deep Sea Violet, and Galaxie Violet. I am totally in love with the Forest Blue and so grateful I bough the 15 ml tube as I find every excuse to use it. :D The other two I will be exploring more in the next coming months. But due to the current sale at Jackson's Art, I find my self compelled to get a few more.
This time I have chosen Shire Blue as I thought the exact same as you! It would be a lovely accent colour for water or really fun to paint leaves on whimsical flowers done with granulating paints. With the help of the info you shared in this video I have kicked the forest brown out of the cart because I can easily mix it with pigments I have. Instead of that one I have put in the Volcano Red and more Potter's Pink. I can't get enough of it. LOL My preference for most granulating Potter's Pink is either this version by Schmincke or the Daniel Smith version. I have not had a chance yet to try out the Roman Szmal version to see how it compares. I do look forward to that!!
Thank you again for your awesome insights and shared knowledge. I agree with Carol's comments on the duck's beak. Simply amazing!! Both of the paintings you chose to do really show case various ways to play with the granulating colours. Both are stunning as always!!!
Thank you so much and I'm glad to hear this was helpful! I have the Roman Szmal Potter's Pink and will say that it is a lot lighter, a paler sort of dusty pink with a little less granulation. It's interesting if you want something different, but I really prefer that darker extra granulating PR233 like you get in Schmincke's or Maimeri Blu's Potters Pink. Happy painting :)
I have the volcano set and thought they would fit into my botanical set. I absolutely love shire green and shire olive and use them a lot. FOREST grey is my favorite overall. I find i go to the granulating paints more often than the single pigments.
This information and insight is GOLD.
I've just bought 5 of the half-pan Schmincke granulation paints at about 8Euros each here in Madrid, Spain. I'm not convinced by all of them yet, but I thought I'd try this limited set for skies, seas and beaches or coastal dunes.
Here are the ones I bought:
Tundra Blue
Glacier Blue
Deep Sea Indigo
Desert Yellow
Forest Olive
I wanted the Volcano Red, but my local art store only had Volcano Orange, so I left it. Perhaps I'll get the Volcano Yellow and Red once they are in stock.
I like the Desert Brown from your 3 favourite ones too. Although, I'm going to try a mix of my existing Mars Brown (White Nights) with Quinacridone Burnt Orange (Daniel Smith), maybe with a spot of W&N granulation medium dropped onto the mix when on the paper.
I have found the Desert Yellow and Forest Olive to be hard work to get rich colour, but for a subtle effect they work well. They just have to be part of a background light or mid value, which can work for landscapes (my preferred style).
My three blues can be used to good effect for skies and seas, especially by adding French Ultramarine (Daniel Smith) or old faithful Cerulian Blue (Daniel Smith).
For the Deep Sea Indigo as a sea colour, I mixed it with Perylene Green (Daniel Smith) and it gave a lovely moody Sea surface texture, adding Jane's Grey (Daniel Smith) for shadow areas near rocks or mountains etc.
In my country a 15ml tube of Schmincke watercolour is $45AU or more depending on pigment so thinking just a tube of Volcano Red and a lot of playing around with all the conventional granulating colours I have will see through most situations. Thanks for these reviews Kimberley you DO save me a fortune! TFS!!
Your videos are so interesting Kimberly. out of the packs, I love the shire the most, so much so I bought the larger 15ml tubes. Then Desert, and Tundra. I did try and mix my own PY159, but I found it very hard to get the right mixture to look nice. It sets like concrete in the palette so can only use the tube, but it dries really quickly, and hard to rewet. I will try the volcano mix myself and the Galaxy but buy the volcano Red, as no matter how many times I could not replicate this like you managed to.
You do such great work. Thank you so much for this! I have put the Vulcano on my list as the only one.
I find the others very lovely, but not for my use.
Really enjoyed this review! I usually strongly prefer to mix my own colors from single pigments, and Schmincke is one of my favorite brands. But I resisted buying their super granulating paints - they seemed quite pricey. I did cave on buying the Shire set to use for landscapes. Haven’t opened them yet. I loved hearing your thoughts!
I just ordered the dot card of the super granulating colors so I'll know what pigments I can mix to get the same effect. Thanks for your reviews.
Thanks
I have to say , the amount of information you are able to get on those little cards is incredible. And to do it neatly to boot. I can barely do a neat swatch that size 😂
Thank you, I always strive to provide relevant info-dense content. I have a hard time stopping myself from cramming in even more details into everything I do - even these little swatch cards. I'm glad it's legible lol. Happy painting :)
I just have to have it for the sake of my granulation addiction! They are so pretty😍 There's a local 🇵🇭 seller here that sells them in half pans! Maybe I can curate some of these colors with my dream botanical granulating pallete❤️❤️❤️
awesome coverage of these colors!!! ugh, im torn.... i want tundra, desert, and forest.... but DANG that's a lot of money.
The shire blue is really beautiful.
Definitely gorgeous, I feel like I'll get a lot of use out of that one :D
yep im going to have to get that shire blue
the granulation is perfect for beach related scenes 😀
Shire Blue is definitely a magical combination of pigments. I'm not sure I would have ever mixed these 3 pigments together otherwise. I do love using these convenience mixtures sometimes, even if I end up deciding to just DIY it later... they make me think about the use of other colors on my palette more. Now I'm eye balling the other yellow and greens I own for use in water themes, Shire Blue trained my eye to value them a little more than my previous default go-to blues. Happy painting :)
The yellow and red is the only colors I been wanting. Combine that with a granulating single pigment blue line ultramarine or cobalt blue,etc..... and throw in a pbk11 aka lunar black, Mars black, etc..... abs you can have fun with all the rest of your colors, making awesome new, or look a like granulating mixes
Your seawater/sand gradation is lovely. I like the shire green/olive a lot- they’re quite different to mixes where the blue tone alone granulates.
I was so happy with those colors for the beach sand to water effect! I agree, those greens are definitely pretty too. It does seem like so many mixtures rely heavily on ultramarine blue or a cobalt blue for the granulation. It's nice seeing more green or yellow tones as the major texture effect :D
These are some gorgeous mixes, though I haven't bought any schmincke super granulators yet! They still got my money though, when Schmincke goes on sale I tend to snap up some of my fave single pigments. Expensive but worth it!
I love your shore-onto-beach section in the right-side painting! I really enjoyed seeing your choices for making your own mixes, and I noticed how empty your yellow half-pan was (as you mentioned). I don't really enjoy seeing that glossy binder build-up on my paintings, and I've tended to paint somewhat thickly in the past (although that has been changing a bit recently), so it so far has been a no-go for me in purchasing these paints. I am tempted to get some Rosa and White Nights, though, based on what's going on in the world. I'm off to go search all your videos now for more information about those two brands...
I keep debating if I should do a brand overview video for both Rosa and White Nights to talk about my favorite colors from them... but I fear it might be too late and we might go into stock shortages from them both for a long while...especially if the invasion of Ukraine and economic sanctions continue to escalate. I even read that UPS and FedEx have halted operation in Russia and well, we know nothing can ship from Ukraine right now either :(
@@KimberlyCrick emailing you in just a few minutes...
I do enjoy using Schmincke watercolours , I wait for Jacksons Art to have sale, I haven't got any the shire collection but after seeing your review I'll get looking to at least one of the sets hopefully Jacksons will have sale soon. Which would you recommend? Oh really enjoying the reviews
What backgrounds it can make.awesome
I don't really see how I can use them in my paintings so I'm not going to purchase any of these granulating colors.Thanks so much for providing the pigment info for all of them,I'll try to replicate them with the paints I already have.
Shire green and shire blue are both beautiful
And that shire grey (for the beak!) But I have the pigments and I'm going to try to mix them. I think I'll try the Roman Szmalx-whoever Aquarius line; I can't believe how much cheaper they are! I'm half asleep but it looked like $10 cheaper _per tube._ (For the single pigments, not the super-granulatings themselves).
I noticed those Shire paints straight away last month and loved them. St. Patrick's coming up, half-Irish half-Sicilian, almost blew my budget with the Shire SET. I held off until this video. They're lovely.
thanks for this video, kimberly .. always fascinating to me.. i have three colors ( three tubes) from the supergranulating sets, and the only one that I still am crazy about, enough to purchase, is the desert green .. i don't own either of the pigments used to create it , so it's on my wish list .. I really do enjoy using these colors , and really want to incorporate them more into my every day palette , to use them in plein air paintings .. thanks again .. Norakag👍👍
I'm super fond of the Desert Green as well! I can't wait to try to work it into more landscape foliage, it has such an interesting combination of colors. Happy painting :)
Thanks! Would prefer to DIY considering price of the Schminke sets, even on sale, except for a few colors.
Thank you for this. I can't get this brand where I live.
Thank you for the video! I realised early on I would not be able to afford all the ready mixed colourcombinations so I set out to " shop" my stash and getting only those tubes/ pigments I didn' t own. It has been a fun journey trying to replicate the mixes, it was a bit difficult as I only had intetnet videos, like yours, and photos to go on to see how the original mixes look like. The mixes w three pigments in are the most difficult to get right and I am finally considering just to get some of those mixes, like the Shire blue. But I can heartely recommend trying out granulating mixes, I made a colourchart of the different pigments and found out so many more options of mixing the pigments that have not still been used in the Schmincke mixes, so that is, apart from saving the cost of all the sets and the sheer fun learning curve, also a plus for getting the separate pigments and mix ones own. But still I really understand that some of the mixes bought " ready made" can be a very useful way if expanding a watercolour palette. By the way, I love the duck you painted, my favourite bird!
IDK if it helps but my best success with three pigment mixtures is to try to visually break them down in two colors.. mix the first and then add the second starting with the one of lightest value. So for desert brown just as an example it's basically an orange with a touch of black.. so mix the orange first.
@@waymire01 Thank you so much for the good advice- I will follow it!
I nabbed Volcano Red and Volcano Yellow based on your previous recommendation ... plus Shire Grey because it's preeeeetty and I don't have PB74
Shire Grey is beautiful and it's such a nice neutral color that can compliment almost anything, even as a shadow, so I'm sure you'll find tons of uses for it! Happy painting :D
My favorites would be the 3 you chose. But I keep tripping over my vegan thing-even when trying the diy's. #3 son is a whaleboat tour captain in Juneau-have to give the ocean floor painting a try. Question: I'd like to buy the color wheel that is pictured at the top of your favorite supply list. Do you have an affiliate link?
Thank you for explaining the issues with PY159! I thot I surely must be doing something wrong, since the Windsor & Newton one was soooooo hard to get some color from. Not used to a pro paint to be that hard to get color from.
Me too! I'd thought Schminke had the lowest-tinting PY175 (Kim said W&N's was much better), but Schminke's really outdone themselves with the Volcano Yellow 😂
Actually though, if I let a lot of water sit on the dimple of the half pan for, just, half an hour or so, it sure does help me with my skies where I need to keep an area "paper white", then graduate it out to a stronger yellow. (As long as I hit it only once and avoid the "mass tone" shine.)
Tomorrow I'm going to try to make the Shire Grey with Vol. Yellow since I have the cobalts and pbk11s. (And I really love that Shire Green! Not sure I want to pay much more for mass-tone shine, though; that's just depressing when you accidentally layer it on an almost-finished painting, and suddenly you have that waxed-crayon look 😩 ) These don't seem to be glazers. Sadly. But some have done well in multiple wet washes. Not complaining!
Eh, I'll learn. One paint stroke, no layering, wet-into-wet is best... yeah I'm a year in and feel way over my head sometimes. I need a drank! 😂And I don't drink!
Totally off-topic, except convenience mixtures: I've got a favorite black mixture (made with a two favorite hues that tend to find thheir way into my paintings), and I'm real sick of mixing it. Phthalo Turquoise and Vermillion (I'm fond of the French Ver. hue by Sennelier, PR 242; Helio Turquoise and other staining turquoises work fine. Is there a "convenience black" made with those pigments? Or something close? By any brand? People have asked what black I use in some of my panther paintings and I say turquoise and orange (and usually have the turquoise for foliage or toss a PR242 botanical in somewhere that doesn't scream 'crazy orange poppy!")
I think some of these conveniences from Schminke (the super-granulatings) are mind-blowing. Avoiding mass tones and not trying to glaze these super-grans seems to help. I opted out of the PB74 because I think that Prodigal Son Smalt will look just as good.
Thanks for all the info you provide us. I LIKE the Volcano Red 😖 😂 Like with all cadmiums though, I've learned to hit the sheet once and hope for the best; not futz around, and def. not to do much glazing. And that Tundra Pink... it blows the socks off Schminke's Potter's Pink (which is brown), so I'm going to be repurposing my tube of Potter's Pink to DIY other hues. 🤗
Enjoyed video would like to try attempts to replicate the super granulation colors i have lunar and mars black to mix with but it seems a daughting process as im newer three yrs into art journery and art money budget is tight i bought a lunar black so experiment on i guess...lol...i can alaways just do abstract wc sheets if things go wonky and bust...lol..thanks for video....maybe if you do a bit slower video for older folks for mixing up colors together would be a nice video for future...thanks so much....mikelle art mom👩🎨🎨✍
Schminke is too pricey for me. But I enjoy the video anyway. Several of your videos have encouraged me to play around with my own mixes which is fun but uses up a lot of paper lol. Thank you so much for the great videos.
I’m mixing them myself. I can’t afford them separately. I’m buying single pigments. I’m not sure if imma buy the volcano red one.🤷🏾
Wonderful work, as always. I went for the Volcano Red and a half pan of the Yellow. I mainly wanted to compare it to my WN PY159. You are right that is one weakly tinting pigment. But always so fun to learn the properties of different pigments and brands. I have a question for you - do you have an opinion on different brands for ox-gall? I have a few paints where I want to increase the flow across the page. I’ve also heard it smells bad, but Schmincke offers theirs in a pan, wondering if that has less of a smell. I have a bottle of Aquasol, but surprisingly it doesn’t seem to help that much, or maybe I’m not using it correctly.
Out of curiosity did you buy the synthetic ox gall from golden, or their watercolor medium (aquazol) because they aren't quite the same in their effects. I do have the Schmincke pan and it does smell, like most ox gall. I will say though that there's a couple things outside of ox gall that can change the way paints flow. Fine particle pigments will have an easier time flowing across water, dispersing freely compared to heavier bigger pigments. Even my Qor colors that granulate don't move much, so if you've only tried to make certain colors move across wet washes more they could be particularly resistant pigments. I will definitely keep a comparison of mediums and how they effect each type of pigment in mind for a future video.
Ah yes, I was wrong. I have Qor’s synthetic oxgall - Aquazol is their binder. I mainly want to add it to some brands that don’t include it in their paints, like Mijello. I need to experiment with it some more I think. I saw another TH-camr who said Holbein made the best oxgall, and I was wondering… how different could it be?
What brand and roughness of paper do you use? I am not seeing much granulation on my arches cold press.
Also, if I were to purchase an actual tube of the Schmincke mixes, it would definitely be Shire Blue. It speaks to my soul.
As much as I love mixing colors myself, I absolutely adore the perfection of their Shire Blue - definitely inspires me too :D
Great videos ! Thank you. I am hours into looking at colors now and it is slowly too much for my brain xD maybe you could help me with my descision and tell me if it makes sense to buy those to have nice granulation abilities ? I have a lot of mijello colors and love them but I miss granulation and effects. So i am about to buy : glacier green, tundra violet, forest brown, french ultra, mars black, potters pink, mars brown (not sure) and daniel smith ultramarine turquoise and rose of ultrmarine. I thought with these colors I would have a lot of fun and not wasted too much money. Anyways no worries if you don't have the time to answer. Keep up your videos and lovely art :)
I wholeheartedly agree French Ultra, Mars Black, Potters Pink are so useful to make beautiful texture in mixtures. If you already own a lot of non-granulating colors from Mission Gold, you likely have a tube of magenta pr122 or rose pv19 you could squeeze a little into a pan with the french ultra, stir it up and you'd have your own DIY rose of ultramarine. Similarly with Ultra Turq by mixing ultramarine and a phthalo blue or green. The schmincke super granulation colors you choose is personal choice, all of them could be mixed, but if there's ones that you just really love how they look and don't want to fuss with mixing they are beautiful paints :)
@@KimberlyCrick awesome thank you very much I will try mixing the daniel smith ones myself ! :)
I wonder if I have been lucky with my W&N PY159? I haven't had any rewetting issues at all, not with the pan and not with the little tube I just got. Perhaps I should try that again before I make a definitive statement though, I've barely used the tube one yet. It's less granulating than the Schmincke for sure, and a paler yellow, more similar to a cool PY53. Also haven't had trouble with it being gummy and shiny.
As for Ultramarines that are similar to PB74 I think the Old Holland deep one is the closest in hue that I've seen. (But beware the Old Holland smell! I can barely suffer through it.)
I was surprised at how shiny these Schmincke colors were, definitely far worse than other brands. My W&N one was definitely weak, not glossy, but completely gets lost in mixtures and I have to use a lot to make up for the lack of tinting strength. I ended up burning through so much paint just scrubbing at it hoping to retrieve more color. I would love to try the pan version, but the PY159 pan and also potters pink pr233 are not available for sale in the USA for some weird reason. We can get all colors in tubes, and many of the more common colors in pan form, but some of them are just unavailable "due to trade agreements" when I try to get them elsewhere. The tubes dried into pans definitely don't seem as easy to re-wet as the pre-made pan options despite W&N saying the formulas were more comparable nowadays than they used to be. One thing none of us can really compare though is how much local humidity plays a part, or how bad it feels compared to the last thing you painted with (ie py159 is weak, but if you just used pg18 it would feel more normal than if you used pb15 or something stronger right beforehand).
The French Ultra I have from Schmincke looks nearly identical to their PB74, but in general most brands regular less granulating versions of ultras don't have as intense of a texture as Cobalt Blue Deep. I really wish PB74 was a more affordable pigment... I honestly am still in shock right now about how expensive everything has gotten lately. I couldn't believe it when I saw Jackson's current price on Cobalt Green Deep was $6 for roman szmal, but $19 for Schmincke! Anyways, I'm glad to hear you're having an OK time with your PY159, I'm a bit jealous, but I'm willing to scrub away at it when I want that light yellow color separation effect :)
@@KimberlyCrick I went back and tried it properly! My PY159 from W&N definitely rewets just fine. It does have low tinting strength, but much higher than the Schminke one, although the Schminke one shows up as more intense in mixes, but I think that's partly because it's a warmer yellow and partly because Schminke seems to mostly have colour in the large granulating particles and not have any base color, if you know what I mean? The W&N one definitely tints the whole mixture more and the granulation is both more subtle And also looks more subtle since the whole mix is more strongly tinted yellow. My Schminke PY159 dries so hard there's no point in using it from a dry pan, and it's very difficult to move around in a mix and get a result where it doesn't look streaky, unless mixed with another heavily granulating colour. I checked the air humidity and in my apartment it's currently at 37% 😬 It's very dry here, I'm in Stockholm, Sweden, and even in summer I'm not sure that I've seen my little measure thing (cannot for the life of me remember what it's called) go above 60%.
My W&N PY159 from a pan and from a tube differ from each other. The tube one is warmer (sits right between a cool PY53 and the Schminke PY159) and is more granulating, the pan version I have is much more similar to a PY53.
I still find the PY53 (also W&N) more highly tinting, but I also know I like how strong that one is compared PY53 from Sennelier, for example.
Yes! Pandemic prices just makes one swallow really hard, don't they! I agree that it's shocking! And it sucks that you can get the pans where you are, it seems both strange and unnecessary! And I feel with you on the jealousy part! For me it's especially strong whenever anyone uses DaVinci colours 🙈
Oh, really!? Cool! I only have the PB74 from Kremer and it's very Violet leaning, hence my comparison to the Old Holland one! May I should try some other PB74s in the future!
@@KimberlyCrick Oh, and I agree there seems to be a difference between the pans and tubes! Definitely noticeable in the Cobalt Violet!
I think they are very beautiful if you are into abstract landscape painting.
I don't have all of the pigments that schmincke uses for most of the mixes but I have French Ultramarine and Cobalt Turquoise. Sadly.. I don't like their French Ultramarine as much as I like Daniel Smith's (that dry hard as a rock quite often). But I would love to get a tube of the Cobalt Turquoise once I run out of the half pan. I used it to mix my own custom mixes with it some years ago before the super granulating range was released.
I love your reviews and insights. I too noticed the two pigments pointed out in your video were in most of the mixtures and came to the same conclusion. All in all, I'm considering Volcano Red as an addition. I just got W&N Potter's Pink and started to test it in my mixtures as I'm trying to get more granulated ones. When it comes to French Ultramarine and granulation, which brand would you recommend? I have White Nights ultramarine and ultramarine deep but can't find it satisfactory granulation-wise, even though I love their vibrancy. All the best and thank you very much. 🙌🎨
Schmincke has the most granulating French Ultramarine by far. So if you're after texture, that's the best one to get :D
i wonder why my volcano red look like indian red but your's look like normal cadmium medium.. is it because of lighting or i'm just not used too looking at cadmium red?
Volcano Red PR108 definitely looks like Cadmium Red Medium, not as light as vermilion/red-light and not as dark as the purple/deep ones I've seen. It definitely doesn't look brownish, like PR101 red iron oxide type of indian red. If yours is more brown leaning than red, then I wonder if there was a weird batch.
@@KimberlyCrick yeah, it does look brown to me, but i dont have a reference point, so i need to get myself some cadmium red so i can compare.
@@zerocalvin Good call. But warning: the cadmiums are WAY expensive (right now? I don't recall them being so expensive last year). I'm trying the Roman Smalz stuff from Jackson's with the free shipping deal to try out their cadmium red(s) and yellow. (Skipping the orange since that's cad red + yellow usually.) Also the cobalts. I've run through most of my cobalts except cobalt violet, and now they seem so much more expensive. (It is good to have that baseline knowledge, what the cads/cobalts look like, and can do, so you don't get screwed buying a "hue" that's nowhere close.)
@@KimberlyCrick after playing around with some cadmium red from winsor and newton and cadmium red deep from holbein, both PR108, I can confirm that my volcano red does look brown. holbein's cadmium red deep is actually much higher chroma than volcano red.
so this kinda disappointing, the granulation and color separation is really beautiful, but it's too low chroma and too brown for me to use as main red.. i'm certainly not going to get another tube of volcano red to check if i just got defective batch because of the price...
@@zerocalvin I'm not sure if you're able to report a defect or return it where you bought it, but I would also consider swatching it next to your cad reds before sending a reference photo to schmincke. They might not know about an issue yet, so you could let them know there might be a problem - they'll just need the numbers printed at the bottom of the tube as a batch reference. Do you happen to live in the USA? If you'd like, I'd be happy to compare mine and do the report email for you. If you want confirmation that this was a defect, you could drop a small dot card type sample in a stamped envelope to me - I'd be happy to figure it out. If not, no worries, you just got me darn curious if they are having problems with this release. I agree with you - much too expensive to just buy it again!
Surely someone (perhaps you!) has experimented with adding granulation medium to a standard cadmium red or yellow? My MG Cad Yellow Light says it granulates, but that surprises me.
You say the MG Cad Yell L says it granulates, but does it actually in practice? Does it cause color separation in mixtures with light weight pigments like phthalos? I am not a fan of granulation medium, as I think it would be better described as texture medium since it doesn't give the same pleasing repeat clumping to mimic natural heavy pigment settling.
@@KimberlyCrick I have not seen anything yet that looks like granulation and I have actually painted with it quite a bit. But, yeah I should try mixing it with phthalos and see what happens. And maybe cobalt teal. I made my own supergranulating combo recently with Qor Cad Red Med & their Cobalt Turquoise, do try that one out!! Beautiful grey.
@@KimberlyCrick I haven't ever tried granulation medium yet, but don't you think Schmincke and DS must use some version of granulation medium in their highly granulating paints? I used to think it was some sort of magic or voodoo, but then I realized it must simply be an additive.
@@jennw6809 There are only a few colors I suspect additives in, such as the oddly gummy and fluorescent DS manganese blue hue, as well as Schmincke's Volcano Red and Yellow. Nearly every other color I can think of is a pretty standard example of that particular pigment when it is coarse/not finely ground. You may have tried a brand that has a finer particle option of that pigment in comparison, which can be drastic. As far as Schmincke's colors aside from volcanos, their french ultramarine is probably the most impressive granulator compared to other brands options (I love the new pigment powder manufacturer they switched to in 2017, such a great grind for that version of PB29). Otherwise nearly everything they make can be easily replicated by brands like Roman Szmal or Maimeri Blu. If there's some specific colors you're finding mystical feel free to suggest a pigment spotlight comparison, or a DIY replica mix video, and I'll add it to my to-do list to de-mystify it :)
@@KimberlyCrick I'm assuming the amount of additive would be small enough it would be undetectable. For instance I discovered how filled with filler the newer Cotmans are recently, but you'd never know from the texture.
Or for instance, I'm pretty sure DaVinci uses glycerine or something similar as a rewet additive. And Schmincke with their oxgall as a flow agent.
So I just started thinking DS uses a granulation additive. Are you saying that the reason the are so granulating is all just because of the grind? I'm sure that's what they want us to think, but since we know they are lying liars...
I was considering buying a very select few in half pan until I saw the huge price increase over their other colors. They are literally just another convenience color.. there is no reason for the premium price tag. I will stick to my granulating palette which gives me so much more than those few mixtures would. That gloss from the red and yellow is really obnoxious, no thanks.
The price increases are getting downright scary... particularly for paints made with cobalts and cadmiums. I see it hitting brands that used to be more affordable too, like Rembrandt and M. Graham. The thing that really has me in a panic is that two of the cheapest pro grade paint brands that offer some great alternatives (White Nights and Rosa Gallery) are very likely about to go into shortage since they are made in Russia and Ukraine. The supply chain issues and shipping costs are only going to get worse with borders closing around these countries (I saw a few days ago FedEx and UPS stopped offering service to both areas). This may make it so either Chinese brands like Paul Rubens or student grade paints with lesser pigment loads like Van Gogh or Cotman end up being the most affordable alternatives for buying individual colors. It's just a shame that student grades and assortment bargain sets like Pretty Ex or Miya Himi don't offer granulating cobalts and cadmiums. Hopefully Roman Szmal will be able to keep his prices reasonable, or granulation outside of the more standard ultramarine or mars black may become too costly for most artists :(
@@KimberlyCrick I work for fedex and can confirm the shipping is stopped for both countries. That will affect not only being able to get the paints out, but getting the materials to make them in, and of course production in Ukraine is almost certainly not happening. Depending on where the factory is it may not happen anymore period. I have to wonder how China imports will be affected as they are allies of Russia and the current sanctions may have serious backlash. I just bought some Cotman and Aquafine in tubes this week to experiment with, adding glycerine etc to see if I can make them function a bit more to my liking.. however neither offers cads or cobalts. Might be time to play with some granulation medium too. I worry about adding salt water, which also can give granulation, due to possible long term damage, especially for brushes. I just placed a small order with Jacksons last night... DHL is outrageous, over double what I paid last fall for about a quarter of the weight of that order.. even standard post was the price DHL used to be... and that is on top of the price increases for the paint itself. I passed on the paint.. eight small brushes I did buy (none over sz 4) were almost $10 for post, $25 for DHL... and they weigh next to nothing. I seriously thought about passing on those.. Jacksons used to offer free shipping to the US for brush only orders but stopped that too.. but I really wanted some of the ProArtes I can't get in the US, and the Escodas which are double the price here. REALLY wish I had a local art store about now. There is nothing in my area except Michaels and Hobby lobby and both have removed almost every professional art supply from their stores, it's all student grade or their store brands which are awful.