This game needs a sequel or re-release. I want to actually own this game. Garou & Last Blade 2 are SNK's crown jewels and KoF XIII is pretty badass. I hope their future is bright.
This video is not fake, it was released much before TH-cam on Geese Cafe (a Japanese Garou website) in, like, 2003. At that time the level was already THAT high, if you think this is fake i invite you to GGPO, there are a lot of people on this level, not only in Japan but on the rest of the world.
+Scoot Hiryu no. No it's not. I play on fightcade where the skill consists of some of the best. They all agreed this was scripted. It's just the reality. These aren't real matches but were made to showcase the engine
nobody hardly plays garou on fightcade i am mostly in third strike channel i wish people played garou. i mean yea its scripted because fights dont go this back and forth but the combos for punishes were common terry was the most easiest since it was heavy close cancel repeated.
+Scoot Hiryu enough play garou :)usually at least 8 ppl. often around 15. sometimes like 30. some of the combos were pretty unrealistically executed, but most combos in garou are very possible. for instance, good luck ever seeing a gato cancel down ab into a cancelled palm at 0:22. No player would go for that. you would see down ab directly cancelled into a fuu-ga into sen-ga loop
Man, I've gotta play Garou again. It's nice that a lot of those combos are actually conceivable to do, unlike high level MVC2 or GGX/ combos. Helluva game, Garou is.
That's fascinating, I had no idea a move's properties could change depending on what state the target is in. I wonder if there are any other normals that do something similar.
Holy shit man, dunno if you ever gonna read this but I've been trying to find this song for years, I heard this before and I thought it was some remix from Rock's theme but it's the other way around it seems SNK ripped it off lmao
@Narmo23 I agree. I especially see this a whole lot during Marvel 2 videos. When they see someone rip an infinite out, they're quick to accuse it's tool-assisted. LOL
Are there some normals that can be cancelled into feints but not specials? Regardless, I still can't get the far D to cancel into anything. Did the properties of some moves change between ports?
Its basically a copy of that Robert Miles song - "Children" I think it was called - sort of a soft synth pop/dance tune from when this game was first out.. Awesome fight - it really shows off what you can do with enough skill (I'm a semi-casual player but love the genre, the arcade sticks, learning new stuff). Is anyone playing this on Xboxlive? I've not seen anyone yet :'(
The only thing that really seems fishy to me is at around a minute he does the down charge up attack without charging it at all... it takes a lot longer than that to charge in the game. Could be a glitch or something though.
Melty Blood isn't too bad as far as an overload of options, but they have a "turn any standing punch into a 14-hit combo FTW" cancelling system which makes everything rather ubiquitous (to me) though. I guess I shouldn't really be complaining about crazy combos watching this, thought. 0:44-0:50 Gato combos off of a counter move. Now that's new.
This game is arguably deeper than 3rd strike and has MUCH more interesting and appealing characters. 3rd Strike probably has a larger community, but Garou remains the better game. Hope that helped! :)
It might be staged but not because they are JDing almost everything. JDing is actually easier to do than parrying...in fact, they could have JDed more than they did. It is very easy to air JD multi-hit moves and they screwed up those JDs.
Suspicious things: No names given, players in all 4 videos have super aggressive playstyles and play almost identical, all players have godlike technical skill(like as in better than Daigo technical skill, foresight, and reaction). They never get cautious, screw up meter building, combos, or anything. Only JDs. And that's not even everything. The video is very suspicious and looks nothing like any other Garou matches I've ever seen. I'm not jealous, it just looks possibly choreographed to me.
It's a good observation, but I say you can't duplicate the *flow* of combat. These fighters LOOK very skilled and with a real great understanding of the flow of combat, which they use to great advantage (see counters etc). It's hard to define in words but I've seen plenty of high level tournament games of Street Fighter 3 Third Strike and these two fight in the same way as the best I saw there. Not AI I contend- real.
As much as I like this video, I can't help but feel that this may possibly be scripted. I notice from playing a while that sometimes when the CPU wins, they continue to spam the overhead attack command after they win their match, which is what this Rock is doing in this video. I defended this video as a real fight before but now I'm having my doubts.
Yeah man, it's a great game that plays like a dream and isn't a science. Don't get me wrong, guilty gear is great, but it's nice to play something that is solid, easy, and fun once in a while. SNK certainly provides that.
I think this game is underrated if snk just make the kof series with this type of gameplay or so it would improve them so much,cos in garou there are no handicaps(well just a little small details but you can't say 1 character has an upper hand here,its all on your ability),the only thing I don't like its kinda slow sometimes and DMs take too much energy like in all snk games.
Word. One of the things that bugs me about Guilty Gear is the technical demands of it. Many people cry out, "Well, you're just a loser noob who doesn't want to take the time to learn how to play!" But some modern serieses, like GGXX/ and Melty Blood, go too far. They strain under the weight of their own system, and become bogged down with the sensory overload that their options create. Garou, however, has an intuitive, simple system that meshes well with the player.
garou est le jeu de baston le plus complet, recherché et.... équilibré. pour moi bien meilleur que sfIII. garou, the fightning game who is most complete, deeper, interesting and BALANCED. it's the best 2d fightning for me.
@Narmo23 Speaking as someone who's been to Japan and been playing/watching fighting games for about 8 years now, I think this looks staged. It's not so much their flawless execution as much as about 20 other things that seem highly unusual. I'll tell you what I mean in my next comment since it's too long.
People can do incredibly well by using Kevin, but that isn't to say that all the other characters aren't exceptionally good or fun to play either. I've gotten bored of tournament matches in the past, watching almost everyone play "bottom tier" characters ;). I believe the game is deep enough that it truly all depends on your skill. Maybe there are arbitrarily "better" characters, but no one will notice while you're beating them easily! That's what the game's mechanics allows for you. Anyone?
>claiming this is tool assisted This is an overused example, but if this is tool assisted then watching a live match of Daigo parryJWong's ChunLi's entire special must be the singlehandedly greatest live hacking in the world. And in that case I fear every government everywhere
Well thats because you aren't willing to put the time in to get good at them. But so what? Its not your bag and thats perfectly. I respect GG but i don't have the time or the drive and will to get good at it. No big deal, the scene is small anyway. Garou has a good solid system and is fun to play so have at it. Who cares what everyone else thinks.
This match is sick, Gato's counter-attack at the end caught me by surprise.
I love that Rock combo at 00:52.
This game needs a sequel or re-release. I want to actually own this game. Garou & Last Blade 2 are SNK's crown jewels and KoF XIII is pretty badass. I hope their future is bright.
Well ma dude, the future is today
This video is not fake, it was released much before TH-cam on Geese Cafe (a Japanese Garou website) in, like, 2003. At that time the level was already THAT high, if you think this is fake i invite you to GGPO, there are a lot of people on this level, not only in Japan but on the rest of the world.
Still got this for my 360 shame no one plays it anymore
These players are on a different level , nice video
This is scripted. It's cool, but not an actual match
+StoneDrum in ggpo these were pretty basic for the players tho
+Scoot Hiryu no. No it's not. I play on fightcade where the skill consists of some of the best. They all agreed this was scripted. It's just the reality. These aren't real matches but were made to showcase the engine
nobody hardly plays garou on fightcade i am mostly in third strike channel i wish people played garou. i mean yea its scripted because fights dont go this back and forth but the combos for punishes were common terry was the most easiest since it was heavy close cancel repeated.
+Scoot Hiryu enough play garou :)usually at least 8 ppl. often around 15. sometimes like 30. some of the combos were pretty unrealistically executed, but most combos in garou are very possible. for instance, good luck ever seeing a gato cancel down ab into a cancelled palm at 0:22. No player would go for that. you would see down ab directly cancelled into a fuu-ga into sen-ga loop
Thats it!! That was killing me. Thanks a lot friend.
best of what i have seen in garou ( i like this v. much)
That ending was unbelieveable. Excellent quick thinking on Gato's part.
Ha ha. The final exchange was genius! Decoy > feint > super > cancelled by higher priority
Godlike.
That was a great fight, the best I've seen. A MONSTROUS Gato indeed.
These matches are just INSANE!!!! I can't possibly hope to play like that.
Man, I've gotta play Garou again.
It's nice that a lot of those combos are actually conceivable to do, unlike high level MVC2 or GGX/ combos. Helluva game, Garou is.
hey, the song on this stage.....
awesome. just awesome :D
and good match, maybe i'll start playing this game
That's fascinating, I had no idea a move's properties could change depending on what state the target is in. I wonder if there are any other normals that do something similar.
WOOW !! awesome fight !! and surprise end :)
excelent !
Wow.... Wowwy wow wow wow. That is absolutely incredible.
anybody else notice that the song sounds like a techno song called children by robert miles?
Holy shit man, dunno if you ever gonna read this but I've been trying to find this song for years, I heard this before and I thought it was some remix from Rock's theme but it's the other way around it seems SNK ripped it off lmao
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That music will be stuck in my head for an hour (good thing it's awesome music).
haha mini daigo moment near the start, anyways great match video
I agree. The just defend system would be a great addition to KOF in my opinion.
What I don't understand is how Rock cancels those far Ds at 0:12. I thought that wasn't possible, and I haven't been able to reproduce it.
I can do some cancels and combos now. Some in the four videos are hard and I'm trying to do them.
Anyone else notice the song in the background is Robert Miles - Children? I never noticed that before!
@Narmo23 I agree. I especially see this a whole lot during Marvel 2 videos. When they see someone rip an infinite out, they're quick to accuse it's tool-assisted. LOL
Holy shit! That combo Rock does starting at 0:57 is just amazing! ANd the round after that... :O
The game obviously!!!
Robert Miles wrote that song in 1996 and this game was released on 1999.
amazing battle
holy fucking shit, where do you get godly footage like this?
Jesus Christ, they are way too good.
Just Defense (block JUST before an incoming attack hits you). Garou's response to the parry in SF3.
that bugged the shit out of me.
i can't believe they just lifted it.
Well said Juzho!
Are there some normals that can be cancelled into feints but not specials? Regardless, I still can't get the far D to cancel into anything. Did the properties of some moves change between ports?
O.o Did anyone catch the melody of "Children" in the background at one point?
i came buckets. that gato palm cancelling AND he's just defending during it... wow man.
That was an Action Packed Match!!!
This was so godlike. Gato is the best.
Crazy combo!!! :D
What the hell? These guys must be world class or something
OMG!! Too Sick
Whats that music... it sounds so familiar!
Its basically a copy of that Robert Miles song - "Children" I think it was called - sort of a soft synth pop/dance tune from when this game was first out..
Awesome fight - it really shows off what you can do with enough skill (I'm a semi-casual player but love the genre, the arcade sticks, learning new stuff).
Is anyone playing this on Xboxlive? I've not seen anyone yet :'(
you think that? for me, he is a great character and his combos are very cool
Tenryuu-retsu-kiba! gato owns nice ending.
The only thing that really seems fishy to me is at around a minute he does the down charge up attack without charging it at all... it takes a lot longer than that to charge in the game. Could be a glitch or something though.
great game,great match...
i ve just realized that before read the comment
but
is this game sampling robert miles or viceversa??
They did the JD system in Neowave, but nobody really appreciated it
Are all of these even humanly possible??!!
OMG!!
megusto el video digo en serio este tipo es experto con el gato exelente video es inpresionante
its Robert Miles children. the one in the game is obviously a remix, but still excellent
What's Gato doing when he stomps the ground rapidly like that? Is he pump-faking or something?
thanks.
how do you do the shoulderblock gato does?
his punch super?
Woooow :O
Damn...Rock got his ass handed to him in R3....mad skills in this vid =)
Melty Blood isn't too bad as far as an overload of options, but they have a "turn any standing punch into a 14-hit combo FTW" cancelling system which makes everything rather ubiquitous (to me) though.
I guess I shouldn't really be complaining about crazy combos watching this, thought. 0:44-0:50 Gato combos off of a counter move. Now that's new.
Gato rules!!!!
This game is arguably deeper than 3rd strike and has MUCH more interesting and appealing characters. 3rd Strike probably has a larger community, but Garou remains the better game. Hope that helped! :)
It might be staged but not because they are JDing almost everything. JDing is actually easier to do than parrying...in fact, they could have JDed more than they did. It is very easy to air JD multi-hit moves and they screwed up those JDs.
This is amazing, are the players from japan?
this is scripted, not a real fight, grow up and learn to see the difference!
Suspicious things: No names given, players in all 4 videos have super aggressive playstyles and play almost identical, all players have godlike technical skill(like as in better than Daigo technical skill, foresight, and reaction). They never get cautious, screw up meter building, combos, or anything. Only JDs. And that's not even everything. The video is very suspicious and looks nothing like any other Garou matches I've ever seen. I'm not jealous, it just looks possibly choreographed to me.
oops, i mean that finish at 00:56
:-D
well i grew up with sf games but i played this recently and i recomend it. It's faster smooth game play did for me the most
Its on Xbox Live, but the netcode is terrible
Agreed :)
Without a doubt, better than every SF ever, SKN rules...
that was a very close match.
this game needs to be on psn
It's a good observation, but I say you can't duplicate the *flow* of combat. These fighters LOOK very skilled and with a real great understanding of the flow of combat, which they use to great advantage (see counters etc). It's hard to define in words but I've seen plenty of high level tournament games of Street Fighter 3 Third Strike and these two fight in the same way as the best I saw there. Not AI I contend- real.
As much as I like this video, I can't help but feel that this may possibly be scripted. I notice from playing a while that sometimes when the CPU wins, they continue to spam the overhead attack command after they win their match, which is what this Rock is doing in this video.
I defended this video as a real fight before but now I'm having my doubts.
GATO HARDCORE!!!!!!!!!!
You see i'll never be able to play like this, my hands are too slow for fighting games.
Hell i can hardly pull off the special moves in this game.
WOWWW
HAHA, I know right? Surprise I haven't heard anyone claim it was mugen.
Yeah man, it's a great game that plays like a dream and isn't a science. Don't get me wrong, guilty gear is great, but it's nice to play something that is solid, easy, and fun once in a while. SNK certainly provides that.
I think this game is underrated if snk just make the kof series with this type of gameplay or so it would improve them so much,cos in garou there are no handicaps(well just a little small details but you can't say 1 character has an upper hand here,its all on your ability),the only thing I don't like its kinda slow sometimes and DMs take too much energy like in all snk games.
Word. One of the things that bugs me about Guilty Gear is the technical demands of it. Many people cry out, "Well, you're just a loser noob who doesn't want to take the time to learn how to play!" But some modern serieses, like GGXX/ and Melty Blood, go too far. They strain under the weight of their own system, and become bogged down with the sensory overload that their options create. Garou, however, has an intuitive, simple system that meshes well with the player.
im sorry but
what the hell is a JD
im new in this game i just downloaded it from XBL
Both player are very skill and fast reaction on controlling joystick.
garou est le jeu de baston le plus complet, recherché et.... équilibré. pour moi bien meilleur que sfIII.
garou, the fightning game who is most complete, deeper, interesting and BALANCED. it's the best 2d fightning for me.
actually the two greatesT game fightin 2d are GAROU AND STREET FIGHTER 3 3RD STRIKE
@Narmo23 Speaking as someone who's been to Japan and been playing/watching fighting games for about 8 years now, I think this looks staged. It's not so much their flawless execution as much as about 20 other things that seem highly unusual. I'll tell you what I mean in my next comment since it's too long.
whos playin?
fuckin cooooooool
@gokujr93
He's building bar
Perrying? Sure.
is this mugen?
yes its rock's song
최고다
People can do incredibly well by using Kevin, but that isn't to say that all the other characters aren't exceptionally good or fun to play either. I've gotten bored of tournament matches in the past, watching almost everyone play "bottom tier" characters ;). I believe the game is deep enough that it truly all depends on your skill. Maybe there are arbitrarily "better" characters, but no one will notice while you're beating them easily! That's what the game's mechanics allows for you. Anyone?
>claiming this is tool assisted
This is an overused example, but if this is tool assisted then watching a live match of Daigo parryJWong's ChunLi's entire special must be the singlehandedly greatest live hacking in the world. And in that case I fear every government everywhere
You can find a bunch of brazilians, americans and mexicans playing like this in GGPO.
talk about a counter
this aint fake, no way, ya can see them reading each other, computers don't do that
Well thats because you aren't willing to put the time in to get good at them. But so what? Its not your bag and thats perfectly. I respect GG but i don't have the time or the drive and will to get good at it. No big deal, the scene is small anyway. Garou has a good solid system and is fun to play so have at it. Who cares what everyone else thinks.
Gato is best!!!!
... Melty Blood does that? >>;
rly? i should check that