Definitely love jasmine in my perfumes. Cant afford a subscription like this at the moment but I am determined to try SB at some point so I can finally build a collection!
I know these are horror stories and these are definitely horrific, but now "Linda and Tina accidentally join a pyramid scheme" is a Bob's Burgers episode that I _absolutely_ want to see. The whole first story I could hear them going like "I'm a small business owner! Why can't you be happy for me?" "Linda, you already are a small business owner"
@@the_Sarahnator she gets manipulated into recruiting Gayle and that’s when she realizes the whole thing is a scam and learns her lesson. Meanwhile Tina is technically too young to join but she awkwardly sells her mom’s inventory to kids at school
I love that the writer used Bob's Burger's character names 😄 There are already at least two Bob's Burgers episodes that hint at MLMs! One is Gretchen in an adult product company (Linda hosts a party for her and then starts helping her sell), the other is Gayle trying to prevent Linda from joining an oil company after Gayle wasn't able to sell any oils from her own starter kit.
The fact that Mary spread lies about this child is just plain abuse imho. There's no excuse for that. An adult trying to intentionally make everyone hate a child is horrible, and it lead to her being ostracized, as Mary was a person who held a lot of power - the owner of the barn and benefactor to these teenagers.
Sounds like a narcissist, either people are good (and by extension they are good bc the people in their lives are a reflection of themselves) or bad and the enemy, so OP falls for the scam and by extension it makes her look stupid.
@@Sarakatbee we shouldn't really try to diagnose someone in the comments, but her story sounds to me more like she could have BPD. She did so much for her, but she did her wrong and so Mary flipped a switch and now she hates her guts. If course it is nit an excuse for harassing a child, but mental healtg care still has a ways to go, that woman clearly had untreated issues and needed therapy.
@@Sarakatbee yeah, people with such disorders are less likely to seek help or consider something is wrong. And 10 years ago it was even less accessible and the stigma was even worse, plus we know women tend to be dismissed more often and the majority of research is done on men. As much as appalling the story was i still have a tiny shred of empathy for Mary as she seemed pretty miserable. At least she wasn't the OPs actual family!
Mary (from the horse story) has all the hallmarks of a grandiose narcissist-- being overly generous, super complimentary, throwing money around to impress others, but then turning on them viciously at a perceived slight. I lived with this in a family member for years, it's very hard to deal with. For narcissists, any little thing that they think undermines their *shiny reputation* leads to rage, resentment and sometimes acts of revenge.
The richest people I’ve ever known in my life have been mentally ill af. And dgmw. IM mentally ill x3. But the fact stands. Every person I knew who came from a family who could just decide they were going to hawaii whenever had parents who were miserably live wires. We’re chilling until they’re screaming, and I’m sitting there like 🫥 . And then ten minutes after that we’re going to the same restaurant that elvis’ surviving family members go to every night.
@@thaloblue oh 100%. Like, everyone I've met who's got THAT much money to throw around like that is absolutely disconnected from the reality that the rest of us live in.
Let's stop diagnosing strangers on the internet. It spreads misinformation and we're not qualified. Saying someone has NPD is like saying someone is a sociopath - it's not something to be flippant about. Mary sounds like a shitty person, but we don't know much about her.
I am sooo glad she got her horse back. I can't imagine the amount of tears she cried. What a horrible woman who at least showed her what a friend doesn't do. So glad she found him at the end. 🐴💝
Thank you for commenting this. I was listening and reading the comments in stress as soon as she mentioned losing the barn spot. Your comment that she got the horse back again allowed me to tune back in to the story.
Right! I've been binging this channel for a while, and a lot of horror stories made my blood boiled. A few even made me cried. I hate that the MLM huns seem to always managed to scam these people out of their resources, even if it was only their time or their emotion. The last story is a rare win. It's not only a defense, but a full-blown counter attack that made the MLM hun shut the f up from the start!😂
Oh, man! The horse story got me teared up... Owner of the second story (if you see this), please know that we sympathize with you, it was not fair you were treated this way, and feel sorry this happened to you. I'm glad you found a safe place for your horsey. Sending you hugs!💕
Sadly, with the horse story, I knew exactly how that woman was going to be when that girl quit. I have met women like that in my life and they really think they are so charitable but then pull shit like this. It breaks my heart.
My guess, the woman had a kind of power syndrome. I have met several of their kind in churches. Usually their husbands are the big shot who make money. Financially independent wives who make actual money themselves usually don't have time for little power trips like this.
Story 1, Bonus: it’s hilarious to me when someone tries to say “you can’t be allergic to this, because it doesn’t contain anything *I* think of as an allergen.” My husband is allergic to avocado, lychees, and underripe bananas. My sister is allergic to apples, and a friend of mine is allergic to pears and breaks out when she touches grass. Anyone could be allergic to literally anything. If someone says they’re allergic or needs to see an ingredient list- believe them!
my sister is allergic to certain overripe fruit. one day she will be fine, next day her tongue and throat will swell up lol, so she just stays away from strawberries, pineapples, bananas, mangoes etc lol
I worked with a dude who was allergic to strawberries! I remember making rice crispy treats & he straight up asked me if they had strawberries in it. I was like nooo bruh 😂
I'm probably not your "target market", since I'm a middle aged bro-bro on the other side of the world, but you've pulled me into the MLM rabbit hole. Subscribed! Keep up the good work!!
I'm also Canadian and got my first job the day after I turned 14. Almost everyone I know who began working at that age were for local/small shops where you were treated well (not paid well necessarily, but where your limitations, school needs, and age were clearly understood). I'm honestly shocked that door to door sales didn't require you being 18 (like being a server) and in 2018 Ontario (not sure about other provinces) banned door to door sales, which is smart because its potentially dangerous for everyone involved...
I grew up in Ontario and got my first job at a dry cleaners when I was 13 lol I also sold girl guide cookies door-to-door and had a brief encounter with a lingerie mlm in the late 80s (I was about 20)
I’m in Québec and, technically, there’s no minimum working age. Kids are allowed to work a maximum number of hours as long as it doesn’t interfere with school. It wasn’t an issue before because young kids rarely worked and many were occasionally babysitting or do little menial jobs during summer such as mowing grass in the neighborhood. Because of the severe labor shortage, we’re seeing more and more kids working at places such as groceries and stores. I suspect that the labor law will probably be modified in order to have a clear definition for minimum work age.
That horse story broke my heart, it's like the lady couldn't understand that the girl made an honest mistake and was willing to make it right. Glad there was a happy ending, but that lady really irked me, mental problems aside, this girl tried everything to make amends, couldn't she see that? The other story with the immigrant father boiled me because libraries are my sanctuary and that hun desecrated and should be forever banned from libraries. You don't prey on the vulnerable, she obviously couldn't see that she was making him uncomfortable. I feel for those who come here looking for a better life and are still learning the language to be accosted and don't want to offend by saying no or leave me alone. Glad the daughter was able to step in and tell the hun to go away. That hun was despicable. Missed you last week, but glad to see you back. 😊💕💕💕
The immigrant exploitation story shines a light on a very real issue that isn't limited to MLM recruitment. Particularly for people who have been in the States "long enough to know English", there can be a lot of insecurity that comes with revealing their difficulty with the language - and if you don't have grown children who can translate and think critically on your behalf, your vulnerability is especially severe. My boyfriend's father still struggles with understanding English when it is spoken too quickly or without proper enunciation, so he relies on his bilingual adult son to fill the gaps. When they aren't together, however, his insecurity gets the better of him and he resorts to saying "yes". TO EVERYTHING. I can't tell you how many hours my boyfriend has spent on hold with customer service working his way up to a manager who will comply when he tells them their representative took advantage of his father and they had better process that refund and cancel that contract immediately. 😬 Thank you for featuring that story. 💖
I have severe ocd and ptsd and follow a lot of mental health TH-cam channels. The last few weeks especially I have noticed mlm scammers replying to all the comments trying to push their mlms on vulnerable people really struggling with mental health. One kept telling me that if I sorted out my gut health and got a liver detox(which is exactly what the liver does anyway for your body naturally!) and a blood detox all my ocd and ptsd would be cured!! I literally cannot with these people!! Thank you for making videos exposing them and educating people.
If mental health was that easy to 'cure', people wouldn't be suffering with it. Or if it actually worked, doctors would prescribe it. I hate this, it makes me so angry. I got pitched an MLM while I was in hospital with appendicitis by another patient. This is why I don't expand on my mental health much online. I'm glad you know better but a lot are so easy manipulated because of their vulnerability :(
I had to listen to the horse story twice because I thought I’d missed something. 😆 Like wait, what? Why was Mary even mad? I’m still dumbfounded. You didn’t like, *force* her to buy anything right? It seems like a completely irrational reaction (obviously). I don’t understand what your leaving the company even had to do with her. None of her business! Infuriating.
Bet you anything Mary got so mad because a story like "someone found out an MLM was shady and immediately quit, rather than sinking hundreds more dollars into it" threatened her rationalizations for staying in her own MLM. And she definitely couldn't risk letting the true story make it to the people in her downline. Some of them might get the idea that they could quit too!
Anything involving animals REALLY affects me emotionally so I was SO relieved to find out the horse was still doing well and the person could be reunited with him 😭❤️ and it was great to finish the video laughing SO hard at “really Candice, the oils again?” LMAOO that doctor was FED UP
Vector Marketing! I remember those f**ckers. I went to one of those “interview” events and thought it was a great job opportunity, but when I went to the training I quickly realized it wasn’t something I wanted, especially when it came up that I would have to buy my knives to sell them, and I BOUNCED. My parents were happy I came to my senses and they warned me about scams and pyramid schemes. These jerks are the worst as yeah they’re main target “sellers” are teens and young people who don’t know any better.
Omg. That cutco story was devastating. What an awful woman to treat a child and helpless horse like that. Had the OP been a little older, she might have been better equipped to make sure her poor horse had a soft landing after leaving her, or at least put him down so he would avoid being put on the meat truck. But, she was a child! That woman was worse than cutco, in my opinion.
That woman IS worse than cutco because her issue with the girl was made up: she likes the knives, the girl didn't lie or scam her out of any money she didn't happily spend, and the girl offered to correct any issue the woman perceived, even offering money out of her own pocket. The woman looked for drama and created it, causing a child a whole lot of unnecessary heartache. While still happily using the knives years later. An absolute gaping sore of a human.
My ex-husband has been raving about these fancy new knives that he just bought and how sharp they are and my kids are like "oh my God Mom they're so sharp, they're so nice you should get some" and I'm just like " I am not going to pay $3,000 for a knife set" and so I looked up the knife set that he got and it was something like $3,500 for knives. I literally just went to TJ Maxx and was able to get a very good and very sharp knife set for $25. Keep in mind he makes a lot of money so $3,500 to him is nothing, but to me it just shows his ignorance. Only after watching videos of yours did I realize that he bought from an MLM "cutco" so now I'm wondering which one of his friends got suckered in.
When I saw the headline “Preying on Immigrants”, I said finally someone wrote about what I’ve seen for years in my community. My experience is slightly different but around the same lines of selling the American dream to people. A few of my extended family members have limited, if any formal education, are monolingual, and undocumented. And somehow companies like Amway have still made their way into their lives. They are deep in and they don’t see what we know because all they see is an opportunity to better themselves and their families. They already work “regular” jobs that pay the minimum wage and due to an array of reasons they are limited to any other form of advancement. What makes me sad is that from what I have seen they spend ANY time off and resources dedicated to the business. And we are talking about people who already live below poverty. It’s incredibly frustrating companies like these still exist…
The story about the horse literally had me in tears! I grew up with horses and the thought that another person could make you lose your horse out of pure spite is heartbreaking. Mental illness or no, what an awful thing to do to a literal kid trying to genuinely fix her mistake. Also, “Really, Candace, the oils?” Merch? Anyone? 😆😆
I am a horse person, I have two, and the girls story about the lady doesn’t surprise me at all sadly. I love the horse community but unfortunately like any community, there are bad people. Quite a lot of older horse woman are toxic and if you do one thing that they dislike, they’ll harp on that and spill hateful things. It sucks cause riding horses is amazing. I’ve seen and been apart of times where older horse woman have done this and there’s no reason for it. It makes you weary of older people
Wow screw Mary! That poor kid should’ve never had to try so hard to apologize and she shouldn’t have lost her horse. But ahhh I’m so happy she found her horse!!! I was going to cry
Mary was really weird. Tbh. All of that was way, way too generous. Incredibly weird. OP's parents should have stepped in. Horses can live for an incredible amount of time and the costs can skyrocket with any injury, so no child and later college student would be able to afford that without help. They should have said, 'no', when they realized that without the free barn and lessons, the horse would have to be sold. Of course, to me it seems Mary was hoping for exactly that and trying to make these responsible parents seem awful and drive a wedge between them and their girls. The ones, who accepted, had to stay in her good graces from that moment onward. It is very creepy, if you think about it. I'm saying it now: I think she was trying to play the long game and grow her downline. She was getting them used to MLMs and such, encouraging them heavily to get started on that and punishing them, if they no longer supported MLM. I wouldn't be surprised, if she had planned to start her own MLM at some point with the girls as her first super-loyal, almost cultish followers.
@@JuMiKu Yeah I agree with you wholeheartedly! It doesn’t sound like a safe or appropriate dynamic at all. I do think that her mental health issues played into the manipulation probably more than wanting to do an mlm herself, but it feels a bit like grooming either way!
My heart breaks for the girl that had to give up her horse. 😔 I had to give away my horse when my family moved so I completely get it. So glad she was able to find him again. ❤️
Oh my God the fact that the woman shared a post about somebody's loved one dying to boast about how she has money to donate that seriously made me so freaking mad!! That is so embarrassing like I would be so embarrassed to do something like that
I saw a video on Medcircle about Histrionic disorder and they explained how people with this disorder or traits of this disorder are so susceptible to being recruited by mlms. The traits were so scarily accurate when you look at top ranking mlm huns and various ones below them. The manipulative, impulsive, overexcitable, overdramatic, self-centredness, difficultly maintaining relationships, gullibility, attention seeking but ultimately very rapid changes of emotion and between these traits because everything they feel and think is very, very superficial. This is also why they are so okay with recruiting others to make money for themselves as they have low empathy and concern for others. I’m definitely going to look more into this as it was really interesting and explained a lot. Most people can’t imagine taking advantage of other people this way and now I know this is one reason why.
My son has leukemia and am part of the Facebook for the hospital where he is a patient. We are constantly hit up by Huns offering to do “fundraisers” for various things or wanting to send our kids or the moms “free gifts” for self care. My very favorite was an instagram reel where an oily hun basically insinuated that we had given our kids cancer by using sunscreen and she would send out complimentary oil kits to help relieve suffering. The oily Huns really come out in force in September for childhood cancer awareness month.
I know people like Mary. It’s likely she would have done this anyway. Cutco actually has a decent product despite the scam. It wasn’t about the scam, this was Mary being evil.
I'm on disability. I have medical and mental health issues. Oily Huns have approached me several times. I've made them aware that I can't afford it. Most of them realize I'm telling the truth and they won't make a sale. However one of my friend's mother said I know you can ask your mother for money. She'll want to buy these oils for your health. I said No. I'm not taking money from my mother. I pay a low amount for rent and utilities. I'm not going to take advantage of her any further. Anyway, she wouldn't accept the word No. Well that's the only answer she was going to get. It made every time I went to her mother's house miserable for all involved. I used to go to her mother's house for dinner every Sunday. I've not gone in about six months. My friend understands and she's embarrassed about her mother's behavior. But her mother still tries to sell me on Facebook. It makes me so angry. Luckily my mother isn't close with this woman and doesn't use Facebook. I'm sure the Hun would try and pitch her.
The Last story reminded me of a visit to my hematologist. After a patient's visit one of his secretaries would prey on a patient with Doterra Essential oils. Well I guess she wasn't allowed to bc the Dr was infuriated when he caught her selling an oil and fired her on the spot after yelling at her. I also had an acupuncturist who would try to pitch young living products and swore their frankincense had cured her friend's glaucoma and I should try it and put two drops in the palm of my hand. I wiped my hands off on the sheet and told her EO's are not FDA regulated and as a massage therapist I don't use them for that reason. I walked out paid for the session never to return. I'm a massage therapist & when a client asks to use a EO I explain to them how back in the 1940s - 1980s cigarettes were promoted to be healthy although there was no science to back up that claim & 80 yrs later we know the truth. Until I learn the proven truth of an EO I won't use or promote them therapuetically as it is my responsibility to do no harm.
Hi Hannah! The first story hit home to me. I was just like the mom & sister with LLR. It was so easy to get sucked in as a customer. I still have a ton of the clothes purchased but wear only a few I still like.
Several years ago a friend introduced me to a LLR FB page where everything was half off. I bought a few pieces and loved them. After that I bought tons! I wore them all the time. I was never pitched to. When I moved I did downsize and let go a few pieces. I still wear the rest. However, I have not purchased anything new in years.
OMG, the horse one was such a roller coaster and I’m SO GLAD it had a happy ending! I can’t help but laugh a little at your reaction to the eye one, because after getting lasik (don’t look up the details of how it’s done), I’ve become almost desensitized to the thought of eye procedures 😅
I honestly couldn't help but cry at the story about Cutco. I've had horses my whole life and retired my current horse last year out to pasture. Still in my care just retired. It breaks my heart having to think of giving up any of my horses throughout my life. They are your best friend. Cuz horse people are weird.
these videos are PERFECT to binge while up at 5 am for an opening shift. So glad I found this channel! It’s been my go-to every morning for weeks now :)
I just found your channel like five days ago and I’ve been binge watching all of your videos! They are so fun to watch. I’ve always been anti-MLM but I never realized how manipulative and horrible it can be. Keep doing all the great work you’re doing!!
In the mid '00s I was taking a break from college and was looking for a job on Craigslist (it was the big thing then). I went for a group interview for a Sales job and it ended up being a MLM (I don't remember which, but probably Vector ). I was falling for most of it until they said we had to go door to door. So I put up my hand and said the add said it would be a call center type job. They said they did have a call center, but it was in another state, and if we did well we could look to transfer to it. I expressed concern as I don't drive for medical reasons, so wouldn't be able to go door to door, the lady was then dismissive like oh this won't work for you then, sorry and asked me to leave, kicking me out to wait in the rain for the bus home for 30+ min. I was sad, but talking to my brother about it after he said it sounded like a scam so probably a good thing it didn't work.
Hooray for horsey happy endings. Letter writer, I felt your grief and am sincerely tickled that your four-legged friend is now living his best life, thanks to you! Hope you have forgiven yourself for once being a young human and making an innocent mistake. Your maturity in trying to rectify it was remarkable and a response of which you should be proud.
I don't really understand how Mary felt "scammed" by the writer. She bought a product from her and then the writer quit. So what? She got the knives (and uses them still!). How was that a scam? Besides the fact that she bought from an MLM (which is on her, THE ADULT), this poor girl did not scam this grown women lol. She sounds insane.
I use peppermint oil for my migraines. Having gotten it in my eyes more than once, I can confirm that it's a terrible idea. I have thought "well I've blinded myself this time" on more than one occasion.
I'm so glad she got her horse back. Granted it's easier to rehome a cat or dog, I know that if I had to give up any of my five animals and didn't know what happened to them after, I would be devastated.
Okay but how did story 1 perfectly fit the Bob’s Burgers characters! I’m so sorry OP’s family got sucked into Lularoe but the names did give me a good giggle
I have the opposite of the sad garden dad story: I used to have a plot in a community garden in the Pacific Northwest, and one of the neighboring gardeners was an older man from Jordan. He was very friendly, and was excited to practice his english. The only downside is I have some auditory processing issues, and I have extra trouble keeping up with conversations. I tried explaining that, and google translate was definitely not much help. We gave up, and mostly chatted about how our gardens were doing. Anyway, he was nice, and always insisted on offering me and anyone younger than 40 a piece of hard candy.
There is an Amway corporate office near where I live, one day I’m going to get in a car accident near it bc I can’t help rolling my eyes every time I pass it.
NO person with the horse you didn’t lose your horse because of Cutco, you lost it because of MARY. You were a child and did absolutely NOTHING wrong. It was not your fault. It was hers.
Good morning! Love that there’s a new one. I’ve binge watched all the others!!! Great way to wake up!! You are absolutely amazing in, story delivery, and just being authentic!! Thanks so much & have a great day!!
Oh that horse story was triggering. Mary sounds like a malignant narcissist getting her supply from having control over these kids. But just one Narcissistic injury, even the unintentional, and you are punished for life. It’s an ego injury and they can’t handle it and they are forever reminded by seeing you so you become their target. It happens to the best eventually.
I am in tears about the horse story. I took riding lessons from age 9-17 and I wanted my own horse more than anything. What she had was my dream and what happened to her is my greatest anxiety nightmare. I am so relived her horse was found and he is ok and he is absolutely beautiful.
GIRL I was listening to this while driving just now (not watching while behind the wheel obviously) and pulled up right behind a LulaRoe hun at a red light!!! Like GIANT decals on all sides of the car... I swear they're following me😂😅
As an equestrian that was absolutely the worst thing I’ve ever heard regarding MLM that’s so traumatic not only to the poor girl but to punish the horse like that too is just disgusting!!! That woman is a complete monster!
That horse story had me so invested! I was soooo happy about the ending😍 as an animal lover my heart ached for her and her horse until the reveal😅 I hugged my puppy extra tight
I know this is a year old but I started binging your videos a few days back and I' absolutely obsessed. But I cried real tears when I heard that she could get the horse back and saw the picture after hearing all the dangers the horse could have been in. It made me really emotional 😢
The barn story was heart breaking The fact that a mother figure backstabbed her knowing what MLM can do and esp to a child whose learning about life. Thats just awful and shows her true colors. To have her lose a horse just for being a B. Mary not the child. I'm so happy for the happy ending with reuniting with the horse.
I have so many small interactions with oily huns because of cancer sprinting through my family at Olympic speeds, its truly astonishing how quickly they ooze out of the woodwork to prey on grieving families. I truly feel for the family and friends of Josh and I hope they're all doing good now. I'm so glad none of the oily huns got their hooks into any of them, and shame on every single hun that tried.
I'm sure you get this all the time, but I LOVE your sweater! Its also so funny how it matches perfectly with the wall behind you! I just found your channel a couple days ago and have been going through your vids, keep up the great work
A few years ago I lived in a small town in North Carolina, and lularoe (as well as several other MLMs) was so popular. So many reps, and everyone I worked with was hooked on buying. The whole office was rocking lularoe. I bought quite a few pairs of leggings and a few skirts and dresses. It’s wild how it seemed to take over the town!
RE: story 3. posting about donations to social media can actually be a super useful tool to bring attention to it, and people are more likely to donate if that feel that sort of passive peer-pressure fomo. that being said, it's extremely obvious when someone is genuinely trying to raise awareness, and when someone is just posting for clout :/
Well folks…this series of horror stories really has some hall of famers in it! Wow…just when you think that the MLM Huns and hunners couldn’t get any worse…they sink to another level in the pit of despair. Thank you Hannah for all your work in exposing some of the slimiest individuals in the slimiest “scams” ever created. God help us all.
Story 2 hits me hard. at 18 I made a dream come true and purchased a horse. sadly my health quickly turned due to undiagnosed chronic illnesses. I tried working off my board at the barn but was unable to put in the necessary hours and ultimately was served with papers giving me 30 day to pay off the debt or my horse would be sold at auction. As a retired standardbred race horse his prospects were slim. I was ultimately and thankfully able to find a buyer that would pay what I needed to pay off the barn and he left for a new home. It still breaks my heart to this day that I had to lose him but am glad he had a happier ending than I feared.
Hi Hanna. I have watched every video on your channel so I consider myself well-versed in MLM’s (great education). However I still “fell” for it (gave her my email). It happened at the dog park. This woman told me that my dog “looks like he’s not getting proper nutrients from his food”. My dog is my life. (He eats Acana Brand food and gets 3+ hours of exercise daily). Anyways, she was telling me about these “supplements” for dogs and of course I was interested (I want the best for my dog). She talked for almost an hour and in the end I gave her my email address. I took my dog to the vet to make sure he’s okay because I actually believed what she said. My vet told me that it’s a pitch for an MLM and she’s seeing more and more of these cases. Specifically it’s preying on people who don’t have enough money to take their dogs to the vet for a check up and believe their BS. She didn’t charge me and Jake got a treat out of it so no harm done. Apparently this woman goes to different dog parks to make her pitch. When I got home from the vet I received an email from Savvy Fox. I had no idea that there were Dog Food MLMs!!! Anyways, I was so mad that I made posters BEWARE OF MLM HUN (with pyramids in the background) and took them to different dogs parks. I posted them everywhere. Shame on her. She is exploiting the love people have for their dogs. Can you please make a video where you discuss these pet MLM’s? Knowledge is power.
I see tons and tons of Lularoe at the Goodwill. It's a game now, I try to spot the Lulano on the rack before I read the tag. As for Oregon, the minimum age to work is 14, but it is for very specific industries. I don't think they include door to door sales alone.
Lol when I was really young, I had an older friend called Candice. She could be kinda rude to me sometimes, but I didn’t really notice because I had low self esteem. Someone called her out when we went camping one time, saying “you’re pretty rude to your friend”. She’s now an oil girl, so the last story made me giggle. I do hope she’s doing well, though. I still think she’s probably a good person, even if she wasn’t always good to me.
The fourth story. You wouldn't BELIEVE how many people work at the election polling places so they can pitch thier mlms while people are voting! I am a precinct clerk which is the boss of the polling place. This lady who got the most public facing job but with the least amount of work so she could pitch her essential oils when she wasn't signing voters in. I had to tell her to please stop talking to voters about essential oils. She was pissed. I figured out the she only got the job to pitch her mlm. It's disgusting. I reported her to the supervisor of elections but I have no idea if they fired her or not.
An acquaintance is now in her second insurance MLM, Family First Life. She posted pics from their convention, praising the founder to the skies, and all of her hun people are commenting and reinforcing it. I think she did well on the first one and was probably recruited into this one. Anyway, I don't hear the insurance MLMs talked about much, so I would love to hear a deep dive.
44:45 Yup.. I had surgery for that too, when I was a kid. I remember watching a TV at a long distance far away from me. I was in the waiting room... I thought it was a morning tv show. It took me a while to realise that the TV was actually a monitor and it was not a morning TV show. It was an eye going through a surgical procedure.
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I know these are horror stories and these are definitely horrific, but now "Linda and Tina accidentally join a pyramid scheme" is a Bob's Burgers episode that I _absolutely_ want to see. The whole first story I could hear them going like
"I'm a small business owner! Why can't you be happy for me?"
"Linda, you already are a small business owner"
YES and I could totally see Gretchen being the one to manipulate her into it. Or Gail. 😂
@@the_Sarahnator she gets manipulated into recruiting Gayle and that’s when she realizes the whole thing is a scam and learns her lesson. Meanwhile Tina is technically too young to join but she awkwardly sells her mom’s inventory to kids at school
I love that the writer used Bob's Burger's character names 😄 There are already at least two Bob's Burgers episodes that hint at MLMs! One is Gretchen in an adult product company (Linda hosts a party for her and then starts helping her sell), the other is Gayle trying to prevent Linda from joining an oil company after Gayle wasn't able to sell any oils from her own starter kit.
@@marymowers4161 I remember that one! I need to rewatch all of them again.
There is that essential oil episode! Gayle actually is correct that it's a scheme. And Louis steals a puppy
The fact that Mary spread lies about this child is just plain abuse imho. There's no excuse for that. An adult trying to intentionally make everyone hate a child is horrible, and it lead to her being ostracized, as Mary was a person who held a lot of power - the owner of the barn and benefactor to these teenagers.
So malicious I’m speechless
Sounds like a narcissist, either people are good (and by extension they are good bc the people in their lives are a reflection of themselves) or bad and the enemy, so OP falls for the scam and by extension it makes her look stupid.
@@Sarakatbee we shouldn't really try to diagnose someone in the comments, but her story sounds to me more like she could have BPD. She did so much for her, but she did her wrong and so Mary flipped a switch and now she hates her guts. If course it is nit an excuse for harassing a child, but mental healtg care still has a ways to go, that woman clearly had untreated issues and needed therapy.
@@SingingCrowie oh definitely, and unfortunately that area of mental health issues, BPD, NPD, HPD go undiagnosed or misdiagnosed so much.
@@Sarakatbee yeah, people with such disorders are less likely to seek help or consider something is wrong. And 10 years ago it was even less accessible and the stigma was even worse, plus we know women tend to be dismissed more often and the majority of research is done on men. As much as appalling the story was i still have a tiny shred of empathy for Mary as she seemed pretty miserable. At least she wasn't the OPs actual family!
"She thought it was a Nigerian price scam"
She's a little confused, but she got the spirit!
Mary (from the horse story) has all the hallmarks of a grandiose narcissist-- being overly generous, super complimentary, throwing money around to impress others, but then turning on them viciously at a perceived slight. I lived with this in a family member for years, it's very hard to deal with.
For narcissists, any little thing that they think undermines their *shiny reputation* leads to rage, resentment and sometimes acts of revenge.
100 per cent! 💯💯
The richest people I’ve ever known in my life have been mentally ill af. And dgmw. IM mentally ill x3. But the fact stands. Every person I knew who came from a family who could just decide they were going to hawaii whenever had parents who were miserably live wires. We’re chilling until they’re screaming, and I’m sitting there like 🫥 . And then ten minutes after that we’re going to the same restaurant that elvis’ surviving family members go to every night.
I was thinking the same! No one with a shred of empathy would do that.
@@thaloblue oh 100%. Like, everyone I've met who's got THAT much money to throw around like that is absolutely disconnected from the reality that the rest of us live in.
Let's stop diagnosing strangers on the internet. It spreads misinformation and we're not qualified. Saying someone has NPD is like saying someone is a sociopath - it's not something to be flippant about. Mary sounds like a shitty person, but we don't know much about her.
I am sooo glad she got her horse back. I can't imagine the amount of tears she cried. What a horrible woman who at least showed her what a friend doesn't do. So glad she found him at the end. 🐴💝
Honestly the next Flicka film.
Thank you for commenting this. I was listening and reading the comments in stress as soon as she mentioned losing the barn spot. Your comment that she got the horse back again allowed me to tune back in to the story.
I kinda want “Really Candace? The oils?!” on a t-shirt
I would buy it
Right! I've been binging this channel for a while, and a lot of horror stories made my blood boiled. A few even made me cried. I hate that the MLM huns seem to always managed to scam these people out of their resources, even if it was only their time or their emotion. The last story is a rare win. It's not only a defense, but a full-blown counter attack that made the MLM hun shut the f up from the start!😂
Plus not to mention how embarrassed Candace would be if she was just walking around one day, and saw that on a shirt LOL
Duuuuuuude yes
Oh, man! The horse story got me teared up... Owner of the second story (if you see this), please know that we sympathize with you, it was not fair you were treated this way, and feel sorry this happened to you. I'm glad you found a safe place for your horsey. Sending you hugs!💕
Sadly, with the horse story, I knew exactly how that woman was going to be when that girl quit. I have met women like that in my life and they really think they are so charitable but then pull shit like this. It breaks my heart.
My guess, the woman had a kind of power syndrome. I have met several of their kind in churches. Usually their husbands are the big shot who make money. Financially independent wives who make actual money themselves usually don't have time for little power trips like this.
Story 1, Bonus: it’s hilarious to me when someone tries to say “you can’t be allergic to this, because it doesn’t contain anything *I* think of as an allergen.”
My husband is allergic to avocado, lychees, and underripe bananas. My sister is allergic to apples, and a friend of mine is allergic to pears and breaks out when she touches grass. Anyone could be allergic to literally anything. If someone says they’re allergic or needs to see an ingredient list- believe them!
there are literally people allergic to WATER and THE FUCKING SUN
my sister is allergic to certain overripe fruit. one day she will be fine, next day her tongue and throat will swell up lol, so she just stays away from strawberries, pineapples, bananas, mangoes etc lol
I'm allergic to that red leaf lettuce. No other lettuce, just that red one. I spend a lot of time picking them out of salad mixes
I worked with a dude who was allergic to strawberries! I remember making rice crispy treats & he straight up asked me if they had strawberries in it. I was like nooo bruh 😂
An old roommate of mine had a sister that was allergic to the cold. Must have been super fun for her to live in an area that gets lake effect snow
I'm probably not your "target market", since I'm a middle aged bro-bro on the other side of the world, but you've pulled me into the MLM rabbit hole. Subscribed! Keep up the good work!!
Men join MLM's as well 🙂
I'm also Canadian and got my first job the day after I turned 14.
Almost everyone I know who began working at that age were for local/small shops where you were treated well (not paid well necessarily, but where your limitations, school needs, and age were clearly understood).
I'm honestly shocked that door to door sales didn't require you being 18 (like being a server) and in 2018 Ontario (not sure about other provinces) banned door to door sales, which is smart because its potentially dangerous for everyone involved...
I grew up in Ontario and got my first job at a dry cleaners when I was 13 lol
I also sold girl guide cookies door-to-door and had a brief encounter with a lingerie mlm in the late 80s (I was about 20)
I’m in Québec and, technically, there’s no minimum working age. Kids are allowed to work a maximum number of hours as long as it doesn’t interfere with school. It wasn’t an issue before because young kids rarely worked and many were occasionally babysitting or do little menial jobs during summer such as mowing grass in the neighborhood.
Because of the severe labor shortage, we’re seeing more and more kids working at places such as groceries and stores. I suspect that the labor law will probably be modified in order to have a clear definition for minimum work age.
I'm really here crying about a horse! 😭 I'm so glad she was able to be reunited with her horse
That horse story broke my heart, it's like the lady couldn't understand that the girl made an honest mistake and was willing to make it right. Glad there was a happy ending, but that lady really irked me, mental problems aside, this girl tried everything to make amends, couldn't she see that?
The other story with the immigrant father boiled me because libraries are my sanctuary and that hun desecrated and should be forever banned from libraries. You don't prey on the vulnerable, she obviously couldn't see that she was making him uncomfortable. I feel for those who come here looking for a better life and are still learning the language to be accosted and don't want to offend by saying no or leave me alone. Glad the daughter was able to step in and tell the hun to go away. That hun was despicable.
Missed you last week, but glad to see you back. 😊💕💕💕
The immigrant exploitation story shines a light on a very real issue that isn't limited to MLM recruitment.
Particularly for people who have been in the States "long enough to know English", there can be a lot of insecurity that comes with revealing their difficulty with the language - and if you don't have grown children who can translate and think critically on your behalf, your vulnerability is especially severe.
My boyfriend's father still struggles with understanding English when it is spoken too quickly or without proper enunciation, so he relies on his bilingual adult son to fill the gaps. When they aren't together, however, his insecurity gets the better of him and he resorts to saying "yes". TO EVERYTHING.
I can't tell you how many hours my boyfriend has spent on hold with customer service working his way up to a manager who will comply when he tells them their representative took advantage of his father and they had better process that refund and cancel that contract immediately. 😬
Thank you for featuring that story. 💖
As someone named Carly, I would like to hold Lula Roe accountable for the trauma people feel from just hearing my name.
No one made Mary buy $3000 worth of knives. She chose to do that. It is ridiculous that she punished a child for her own actions!🤬
I have severe ocd and ptsd and follow a lot of mental health TH-cam channels. The last few weeks especially I have noticed mlm scammers replying to all the comments trying to push their mlms on vulnerable people really struggling with mental health. One kept telling me that if I sorted out my gut health and got a liver detox(which is exactly what the liver does anyway for your body naturally!) and a blood detox all my ocd and ptsd would be cured!! I literally cannot with these people!! Thank you for making videos exposing them and educating people.
That is a horror story in and of itself!!!!
I have ocd as well and it is just not able to be cured. I find it funny they believe that. I hope you're doing well though!
If mental health was that easy to 'cure', people wouldn't be suffering with it. Or if it actually worked, doctors would prescribe it. I hate this, it makes me so angry. I got pitched an MLM while I was in hospital with appendicitis by another patient. This is why I don't expand on my mental health much online. I'm glad you know better but a lot are so easy manipulated because of their vulnerability :(
I had to listen to the horse story twice because I thought I’d missed something. 😆 Like wait, what? Why was Mary even mad? I’m still dumbfounded.
You didn’t like, *force* her to buy anything right? It seems like a completely irrational reaction (obviously).
I don’t understand what your leaving the company even had to do with her. None of her business! Infuriating.
I agree. She should be supporting her for leaving the MLM.
Exactly. You are an adult! You 100% make your own choices, you chose to buy from her.
Bet you anything Mary got so mad because a story like "someone found out an MLM was shady and immediately quit, rather than sinking hundreds more dollars into it" threatened her rationalizations for staying in her own MLM.
And she definitely couldn't risk letting the true story make it to the people in her downline. Some of them might get the idea that they could quit too!
Anything involving animals REALLY affects me emotionally so I was SO relieved to find out the horse was still doing well and the person could be reunited with him 😭❤️ and it was great to finish the video laughing SO hard at “really Candice, the oils again?” LMAOO that doctor was FED UP
Same!!! 😭
I am crying like a baby about the young woman and her horse. This is so heartbreaking, and horrible that anyone can be so cruel.
It made me cry too.
Vector Marketing! I remember those f**ckers. I went to one of those “interview” events and thought it was a great job opportunity, but when I went to the training I quickly realized it wasn’t something I wanted, especially when it came up that I would have to buy my knives to sell them, and I BOUNCED. My parents were happy I came to my senses and they warned me about scams and pyramid schemes. These jerks are the worst as yeah they’re main target “sellers” are teens and young people who don’t know any better.
Good job you have knowledgable parents 🙂
Omg. That cutco story was devastating. What an awful woman to treat a child and helpless horse like that. Had the OP been a little older, she might have been better equipped to make sure her poor horse had a soft landing after leaving her, or at least put him down so he would avoid being put on the meat truck. But, she was a child! That woman was worse than cutco, in my opinion.
That woman IS worse than cutco because her issue with the girl was made up: she likes the knives, the girl didn't lie or scam her out of any money she didn't happily spend, and the girl offered to correct any issue the woman perceived, even offering money out of her own pocket. The woman looked for drama and created it, causing a child a whole lot of unnecessary heartache. While still happily using the knives years later. An absolute gaping sore of a human.
She’s a heifer. Two faced, bullies kids.
My ex-husband has been raving about these fancy new knives that he just bought and how sharp they are and my kids are like "oh my God Mom they're so sharp, they're so nice you should get some" and I'm just like " I am not going to pay $3,000 for a knife set" and so I looked up the knife set that he got and it was something like $3,500 for knives. I literally just went to TJ Maxx and was able to get a very good and very sharp knife set for $25. Keep in mind he makes a lot of money so $3,500 to him is nothing, but to me it just shows his ignorance. Only after watching videos of yours did I realize that he bought from an MLM "cutco" so now I'm wondering which one of his friends got suckered in.
When I saw the headline “Preying on Immigrants”, I said finally someone wrote about what I’ve seen for years in my community. My experience is slightly different but around the same lines of selling the American dream to people. A few of my extended family members have limited, if any formal education, are monolingual, and undocumented. And somehow companies like Amway have still made their way into their lives. They are deep in and they don’t see what we know because all they see is an opportunity to better themselves and their families. They already work “regular” jobs that pay the minimum wage and due to an array of reasons they are limited to any other form of advancement. What makes me sad is that from what I have seen they spend ANY time off and resources dedicated to the business. And we are talking about people who already live below poverty. It’s incredibly frustrating companies like these still exist…
The story about the horse literally had me in tears! I grew up with horses and the thought that another person could make you lose your horse out of pure spite is heartbreaking. Mental illness or no, what an awful thing to do to a literal kid trying to genuinely fix her mistake.
Also, “Really, Candace, the oils?” Merch? Anyone? 😆😆
I am a horse person, I have two, and the girls story about the lady doesn’t surprise me at all sadly. I love the horse community but unfortunately like any community, there are bad people. Quite a lot of older horse woman are toxic and if you do one thing that they dislike, they’ll harp on that and spill hateful things. It sucks cause riding horses is amazing. I’ve seen and been apart of times where older horse woman have done this and there’s no reason for it. It makes you weary of older people
"really candace?! the oils?!" iconic
Wow screw Mary! That poor kid should’ve never had to try so hard to apologize and she shouldn’t have lost her horse. But ahhh I’m so happy she found her horse!!! I was going to cry
Mary was really weird. Tbh. All of that was way, way too generous. Incredibly weird.
OP's parents should have stepped in. Horses can live for an incredible amount of time and the costs can skyrocket with any injury, so no child and later college student would be able to afford that without help.
They should have said, 'no', when they realized that without the free barn and lessons, the horse would have to be sold. Of course, to me it seems Mary was hoping for exactly that and trying to make these responsible parents seem awful and drive a wedge between them and their girls. The ones, who accepted, had to stay in her good graces from that moment onward. It is very creepy, if you think about it.
I'm saying it now: I think she was trying to play the long game and grow her downline.
She was getting them used to MLMs and such, encouraging them heavily to get started on that and punishing them, if they no longer supported MLM.
I wouldn't be surprised, if she had planned to start her own MLM at some point with the girls as her first super-loyal, almost cultish followers.
@@JuMiKu Yeah I agree with you wholeheartedly! It doesn’t sound like a safe or appropriate dynamic at all. I do think that her mental health issues played into the manipulation probably more than wanting to do an mlm herself, but it feels a bit like grooming either way!
Every time a video ends I get sad. I’ve binged the ENTIRETY of all of the MLM videos.
My heart breaks for the girl that had to give up her horse. 😔 I had to give away my horse when my family moved so I completely get it. So glad she was able to find him again. ❤️
Oh my God the fact that the woman shared a post about somebody's loved one dying to boast about how she has money to donate that seriously made me so freaking mad!! That is so embarrassing like I would be so embarrassed to do something like that
Omg I love how she chose Bob's Burgers! There's an MLM episode in that show too. Lorenzo's no oil or something - very Young Living inspired 😂
“Lorenzo’s oil? No, Linda’s!” One of my faves!
I saw a video on Medcircle about Histrionic disorder and they explained how people with this disorder or traits of this disorder are so susceptible to being recruited by mlms. The traits were so scarily accurate when you look at top ranking mlm huns and various ones below them. The manipulative, impulsive, overexcitable, overdramatic, self-centredness, difficultly maintaining relationships, gullibility, attention seeking but ultimately very rapid changes of emotion and between these traits because everything they feel and think is very, very superficial. This is also why they are so okay with recruiting others to make money for themselves as they have low empathy and concern for others. I’m definitely going to look more into this as it was really interesting and explained a lot. Most people can’t imagine taking advantage of other people this way and now I know this is one reason why.
That's very interesting
My son has leukemia and am part of the Facebook for the hospital where he is a patient. We are constantly hit up by Huns offering to do “fundraisers” for various things or wanting to send our kids or the moms “free gifts” for self care. My very favorite was an instagram reel where an oily hun basically insinuated that we had given our kids cancer by using sunscreen and she would send out complimentary oil kits to help relieve suffering. The oily Huns really come out in force in September for childhood cancer awareness month.
I know people like Mary. It’s likely she would have done this anyway. Cutco actually has a decent product despite the scam. It wasn’t about the scam, this was Mary being evil.
I actually gasped out loud when she said she was reunited with her horse. I was SO relieved.
I'm on disability. I have medical and mental health issues. Oily Huns have approached me several times. I've made them aware that I can't afford it. Most of them realize I'm telling the truth and they won't make a sale. However one of my friend's mother said I know you can ask your mother for money. She'll want to buy these oils for your health. I said No. I'm not taking money from my mother. I pay a low amount for rent and utilities. I'm not going to take advantage of her any further. Anyway, she wouldn't accept the word No. Well that's the only answer she was going to get. It made every time I went to her mother's house miserable for all involved. I used to go to her mother's house for dinner every Sunday. I've not gone in about six months. My friend understands and she's embarrassed about her mother's behavior. But her mother still tries to sell me on Facebook. It makes me so angry. Luckily my mother isn't close with this woman and doesn't use Facebook. I'm sure the Hun would try and pitch her.
Fantastic video. The horse story was moving, and I feel like "Really, Candace?" could be a new anti-MLM catch phrase.
The Last story reminded me of a visit to my hematologist. After a patient's visit one of his secretaries would prey on a patient with Doterra Essential oils. Well I guess she wasn't allowed to bc the Dr was infuriated when he caught her selling an oil and fired her on the spot after yelling at her. I also had an acupuncturist who would try to pitch young living products and swore their frankincense had cured her friend's glaucoma and I should try it and put two drops in the palm of my hand. I wiped my hands off on the sheet and told her EO's are not FDA regulated and as a massage therapist I don't use them for that reason. I walked out paid for the session never to return.
I'm a massage therapist & when a client asks to use a EO I explain to them how back in the 1940s - 1980s cigarettes were promoted to be healthy although there was no science to back up that claim & 80 yrs later we know the truth. Until I learn the proven truth of an EO I won't use or promote them therapuetically as it is my responsibility to do no harm.
Hi Hannah! The first story hit home to me. I was just like the mom & sister with LLR. It was so easy to get sucked in as a customer. I still have a ton of the clothes purchased but wear only a few I still like.
Several years ago a friend introduced me to a LLR FB page where everything was half off. I bought a few pieces and loved them. After that I bought tons! I wore them all the time. I was never pitched to. When I moved I did downsize and let go a few pieces. I still wear the rest. However, I have not purchased anything new in years.
"Stop pitching MLMs during surgery, Candace." 😆🤣😆🤣
hannah: leggings with burger print? nobody wants that!!
me: (that's so me ngl)
OMG, the horse one was such a roller coaster and I’m SO GLAD it had a happy ending!
I can’t help but laugh a little at your reaction to the eye one, because after getting lasik (don’t look up the details of how it’s done), I’ve become almost desensitized to the thought of eye procedures 😅
I honestly couldn't help but cry at the story about Cutco. I've had horses my whole life and retired my current horse last year out to pasture. Still in my care just retired. It breaks my heart having to think of giving up any of my horses throughout my life. They are your best friend. Cuz horse people are weird.
If I had received that sales pitch when I was first grieving the loss of my daughter, I would’ve absolutely lost my shit. 😂😂😂😂😂
💀 right cause I would have had to beat them 🤷🏽♀️ there wouldn’t have been no rational think to do
I had so many people be really shitty about it when I lost my son. I lost a lot of respect for several people
these videos are PERFECT to binge while up at 5 am for an opening shift. So glad I found this channel! It’s been my go-to every morning for weeks now :)
The horse story got me teary eyed. I immediately hugged my dog when you where reading it! I’m so glad her horse is okay!!
I just found your channel like five days ago and I’ve been binge watching all of your videos! They are so fun to watch. I’ve always been anti-MLM but I never realized how manipulative and horrible it can be. Keep doing all the great work you’re doing!!
I’m crying over the horse. I was so scared and sad at first and now happy tears. 😭❤️
It makes me so sad going to Costco, my favorite store, and seeing a Cutco stand every single time. How is that legal??
In the mid '00s I was taking a break from college and was looking for a job on Craigslist (it was the big thing then). I went for a group interview for a Sales job and it ended up being a MLM (I don't remember which, but probably Vector ). I was falling for most of it until they said we had to go door to door. So I put up my hand and said the add said it would be a call center type job. They said they did have a call center, but it was in another state, and if we did well we could look to transfer to it. I expressed concern as I don't drive for medical reasons, so wouldn't be able to go door to door, the lady was then dismissive like oh this won't work for you then, sorry and asked me to leave, kicking me out to wait in the rain for the bus home for 30+ min. I was sad, but talking to my brother about it after he said it sounded like a scam so probably a good thing it didn't work.
Hooray for horsey happy endings. Letter writer, I felt your grief and am sincerely tickled that your four-legged friend is now living his best life, thanks to you! Hope you have forgiven yourself for once being a young human and making an innocent mistake. Your maturity in trying to rectify it was remarkable and a response of which you should be proud.
I don't really understand how Mary felt "scammed" by the writer. She bought a product from her and then the writer quit. So what? She got the knives (and uses them still!). How was that a scam? Besides the fact that she bought from an MLM (which is on her, THE ADULT), this poor girl did not scam this grown women lol. She sounds insane.
I use peppermint oil for my migraines. Having gotten it in my eyes more than once, I can confirm that it's a terrible idea. I have thought "well I've blinded myself this time" on more than one occasion.
Awww that horse story got me crying:(
I'm so glad she got her horse back. Granted it's easier to rehome a cat or dog, I know that if I had to give up any of my five animals and didn't know what happened to them after, I would be devastated.
My jaw literally dropped open when the oily hun said she had oils to help with grieving!! 🤬 and I have no words for the amway bit…hun wtf
Okay but how did story 1 perfectly fit the Bob’s Burgers characters! I’m so sorry OP’s family got sucked into Lularoe but the names did give me a good giggle
Hey Hannah! Missed you! At 54K subs! So awesome how your channel has grown over the past few months. Thank you for all your great videos☺️
I have the opposite of the sad garden dad story: I used to have a plot in a community garden in the Pacific Northwest, and one of the neighboring gardeners was an older man from Jordan. He was very friendly, and was excited to practice his english. The only downside is I have some auditory processing issues, and I have extra trouble keeping up with conversations. I tried explaining that, and google translate was definitely not much help. We gave up, and mostly chatted about how our gardens were doing. Anyway, he was nice, and always insisted on offering me and anyone younger than 40 a piece of hard candy.
There is an Amway corporate office near where I live, one day I’m going to get in a car accident near it bc I can’t help rolling my eyes every time I pass it.
NO person with the horse you didn’t lose your horse because of Cutco, you lost it because of MARY. You were a child and did absolutely NOTHING wrong. It was not your fault. It was hers.
the horse is very beautiful :) im so glad you two were reunited 💗
Good morning!
Love that there’s a new one. I’ve binge watched all the others!!! Great way to wake up!! You are absolutely amazing in, story delivery, and just being authentic!! Thanks so much & have a great day!!
I also got pitched while in hospital awaiting surgery. But by another patient 20 feet away on my ward. It's infuriating how predatory MLM huns can be.
“Super bingable” is an understatement. This channel is so well done!
Oh that horse story was triggering. Mary sounds like a malignant narcissist getting her supply from having control over these kids. But just one Narcissistic injury, even the unintentional, and you are punished for life. It’s an ego injury and they can’t handle it and they are forever reminded by seeing you so you become their target. It happens to the best eventually.
OMG I am so glad the horse story had a happy ending
I'm a huge Bob's Burgers fan and I can definitely see Gretchen getting Linda into an MLM! She's already kind of done it in one episode! Lol
I'm so glad the horse is ok, that was very stressful.
I am in tears about the horse story. I took riding lessons from age 9-17 and I wanted my own horse more than anything. What she had was my dream and what happened to her is my greatest anxiety nightmare. I am so relived her horse was found and he is ok and he is absolutely beautiful.
"Really Candice, the oils??"
LMAO- omg- that doctor is amazing. Shut that shit down IMMEDIATELY. haha.
The horse story is is heartbreaking! I’m so happy it ended with some joy 💗
GIRL I was listening to this while driving just now (not watching while behind the wheel obviously) and pulled up right behind a LulaRoe hun at a red light!!! Like GIANT decals on all sides of the car... I swear they're following me😂😅
As an equestrian that was absolutely the worst thing I’ve ever heard regarding MLM that’s so traumatic not only to the poor girl but to punish the horse like that too is just disgusting!!! That woman is a complete monster!
That horse story had me so invested! I was soooo happy about the ending😍 as an animal lover my heart ached for her and her horse until the reveal😅 I hugged my puppy extra tight
I know this is a year old but I started binging your videos a few days back and I' absolutely obsessed. But I cried real tears when I heard that she could get the horse back and saw the picture after hearing all the dangers the horse could have been in. It made me really emotional 😢
I GOT AN AD FOR VECTOR MARKETING RIGHT AFTER THE VECTOR MARKETING HORROR STORY-IT EVEN SAID “SOME CALL IT A SCAM”-
The barn story was heart breaking The fact that a mother figure backstabbed her knowing what MLM can do and esp to a child whose learning about life. Thats just awful and shows her true colors. To have her lose a horse just for being a B. Mary not the child. I'm so happy for the happy ending with reuniting with the horse.
I have so many small interactions with oily huns because of cancer sprinting through my family at Olympic speeds, its truly astonishing how quickly they ooze out of the woodwork to prey on grieving families. I truly feel for the family and friends of Josh and I hope they're all doing good now. I'm so glad none of the oily huns got their hooks into any of them, and shame on every single hun that tried.
What a beautiful horse. Did not experience this to be a tearjerker!
I'm sure you get this all the time, but I LOVE your sweater! Its also so funny how it matches perfectly with the wall behind you! I just found your channel a couple days ago and have been going through your vids, keep up the great work
A few years ago I lived in a small town in North Carolina, and lularoe (as well as several other MLMs) was so popular. So many reps, and everyone I worked with was hooked on buying. The whole office was rocking lularoe. I bought quite a few pairs of leggings and a few skirts and dresses. It’s wild how it seemed to take over the town!
RE: story 3. posting about donations to social media can actually be a super useful tool to bring attention to it, and people are more likely to donate if that feel that sort of passive peer-pressure fomo. that being said, it's extremely obvious when someone is genuinely trying to raise awareness, and when someone is just posting for clout :/
The involuntary noise that came out of your mouth when the writer mentioned the scalpel and needle near her eye caused me great joy 😆
Well folks…this series of horror stories really has some hall of famers in it!
Wow…just when you think that the MLM Huns and hunners couldn’t get any worse…they sink to another level in the pit of despair.
Thank you Hannah for all your work in exposing some of the slimiest individuals in the slimiest “scams” ever created. God help us all.
Story 2 hits me hard. at 18 I made a dream come true and purchased a horse. sadly my health quickly turned due to undiagnosed chronic illnesses. I tried working off my board at the barn but was unable to put in the necessary hours and ultimately was served with papers giving me 30 day to pay off the debt or my horse would be sold at auction. As a retired standardbred race horse his prospects were slim. I was ultimately and thankfully able to find a buyer that would pay what I needed to pay off the barn and he left for a new home. It still breaks my heart to this day that I had to lose him but am glad he had a happier ending than I feared.
That horse story was one heck of a ride!
Every time you sit down to read new stories - I am more amazed at the AUDACITY of folks out here. It is truly mind blowing!
Hi Hanna. I have watched every video on your channel so I consider myself well-versed in MLM’s (great education). However I still “fell” for it (gave her my email). It happened at the dog park. This woman told me that my dog “looks like he’s not getting proper nutrients from his food”. My dog is my life. (He eats Acana Brand food and gets 3+ hours of exercise daily). Anyways, she was telling me about these “supplements” for dogs and of course I was interested (I want the best for my dog). She talked for almost an hour and in the end I gave her my email address. I took my dog to the vet to make sure he’s okay because I actually believed what she said. My vet told me that it’s a pitch for an MLM and she’s seeing more and more of these cases. Specifically it’s preying on people who don’t have enough money to take their dogs to the vet for a check up and believe their BS. She didn’t charge me and Jake got a treat out of it so no harm done. Apparently this woman goes to different dog parks to make her pitch. When I got home from the vet I received an email from Savvy Fox. I had no idea that there were Dog Food MLMs!!! Anyways, I was so mad
that I made posters BEWARE OF MLM HUN (with pyramids in the background) and took them to different dogs parks. I posted them everywhere. Shame on her. She is exploiting the love people have for their dogs. Can you please make a video where you discuss these pet MLM’s? Knowledge is power.
I see tons and tons of Lularoe at the Goodwill. It's a game now, I try to spot the Lulano on the rack before I read the tag.
As for Oregon, the minimum age to work is 14, but it is for very specific industries. I don't think they include door to door sales alone.
I'm so sorry for the young lady with the horse, she didn't deserve that treatment!
Lol when I was really young, I had an older friend called Candice. She could be kinda rude to me sometimes, but I didn’t really notice because I had low self esteem. Someone called her out when we went camping one time, saying “you’re pretty rude to your friend”. She’s now an oil girl, so the last story made me giggle. I do hope she’s doing well, though. I still think she’s probably a good person, even if she wasn’t always good to me.
The fourth story. You wouldn't BELIEVE how many people work at the election polling places so they can pitch thier mlms while people are voting! I am a precinct clerk which is the boss of the polling place. This lady who got the most public facing job but with the least amount of work so she could pitch her essential oils when she wasn't signing voters in. I had to tell her to please stop talking to voters about essential oils. She was pissed. I figured out the she only got the job to pitch her mlm. It's disgusting. I reported her to the supervisor of elections but I have no idea if they fired her or not.
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An acquaintance is now in her second insurance MLM, Family First Life. She posted pics from their convention, praising the founder to the skies, and all of her hun people are commenting and reinforcing it. I think she did well on the first one and was probably recruited into this one. Anyway, I don't hear the insurance MLMs talked about much, so I would love to hear a deep dive.
Not the first story using Bobs burgers names to stay anonymous 😂
Bobs even had an oil mlm episode!!
44:45 Yup.. I had surgery for that too, when I was a kid. I remember watching a TV at a long distance far away from me. I was in the waiting room... I thought it was a morning tv show.
It took me a while to realise that the TV was actually a monitor and it was not a morning TV show. It was an eye going through a surgical procedure.
great video! i subscribed to endel because of your sponsorship and it’s so great!