Kia Sportage GT FULL REVIEW test driven neu new gen - Autogefühl
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They're doing a great job, a huge leap forward in design and quality. Schreyer is taking the Korean brands to new standardS. AMAZING REVIEW Thomas
Thank You Thomas and Autogefuhl for doing the extra effort with your handy and helpful information about the aesthetic side of the exterior/interior with every vehicle that gets a review as well as driving impressions, observations - visibility, feel, etc. With the new Kia Sportage I really like it's design ( to a degree it's like a sharpened Porsche Macan - especially at the front ). The cabin is really well done compared against the competition. Dash area, control/button lay-out is cohesive., maybe some functions need improving but still acceptable.
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Here is my Kia experience. Anyone in my position has encountered the same thing from Kia. If you cannot supply them with up to date maintenance records on your vehicle they will not cover it. So for instance, if you change your own oil you're screwed. Might work if you saved all your receipts but very few people are in the habit of saving receipts of them doing their own oil changes. This ploy Kia uses is well documented if you want to look it up, I have, and it’s out there. Also my car would be covered under the SC147 recall as the symptoms of my engine seizing up (engine needs replaced) followed the exact same symptomology as those the manufacturing defect notes in the recall. The recall notice even appears on my Carfax report. Again you can find all the recall information online. The reason my car isn't part of the SC147 recall according to Kia is because it is MPI instead of GDI. All the rest of the engine is the exact same, 2.4L theta II. Kia says that because my car uses a different kind of fuel injection method that it cannot be affected by the metal filings left in the engine block which is what the SC147 recall is all about. That's totally absurd on its face but that's Kia's position.
The vehicles Kia did recall was done after many government threats as well as numerous lawsuits brought by disgruntled Kia owners for which there are many. Kia's mother company, Hyundai actually recalled their vehicles for the same problem immediately when the issue was discovered. It took Kia several years later to admit to the problem and issue a recall even though they were well aware of the problem. Where was Kia's concern for people being killed due to this manufacturing defect? A car having its engine seize up on the interstate would be something that would concern most companies immediately but not Kia. Unless Kia completely changes the way it does business they will continue to cost consumers thousands of dollars for defective cars and probably end up killing people due to their own negligence.
I had to argue, write emails, file complaints with various entities, etc just to get Kia to actually LOOK at my engine at no cost to me to determine the how and why of the engine failure. Kia refused to cover my car even though it is under warranty and furthermore refused to even LOOK at my car to see what caused the failure. I'm still waiting for a callback from Kia with their assessment. Kia actually agreed to take my valve cover off to take a look at my car once I complained as high up as I could to Kia. This was after several months of my car sitting dead on the Auffenberg Kia lot in Metro east St Louis. Kia actually told me I'd have to pay $1500 up front to have my engine failure looked into initially. My constant pressure on Kia finally got them to say they would take my valve cover off for no fee which costs Kia less than $50 in labor. Kia had no desire whatsoever to know what caused my engine to seize up. Their ONLY concern was to avoid any acknowledgement of any responsibility or liability. Kia already knew what caused the engine to fail. The same thing that happened to hundreds of thousands of the same engines made by Kia and Hyundai. It was the exact same problem as the Kia SC147 recall. Taking the valve cover off will not help. There was no oil leak. No oil smell. Never any indication of any problem with the valve cover. It's simply a ploy for Kia to say we looked at your engine and it's your fault. Who would trust their assessment at this point anyway? I'm out thousands of dollars I still owe on a car without a working engine. Don't you think any car maker worth a darn would want to know why one of their vehicles engines just seized up on the highway? Kia's been super lucky so far no one has died due to their negligence.
Additionally a co-worker of mine had a problem with his Kia and will not buy one again either. For his Kia the car required a specific oil filter made and installed by Kia and if that was not used the engine fails. He was never told this when he purchased the vehicle. His insurance successfully sued Kia for over $7,000 for his engine failure. Unfortunately my insurance doesn't cover mechanical issues.
Ever wonder why your Kia never quite gets the gas mileage it was rated to get? Kia has also paid out for a class action lawsuit because they lied about the MPG of many of their models. The very MPG rating that many people base a large percentage of their purchase decision on. Yeah, Kia lied about that too but kept it hush hush. You can find the information online if you look for it.
I had my car into the dealership (Auffenberg) several times before the engine failure telling them something is bad wrong with the car. The Kia service department ran every kind of computer diagnostic and could find no reason for the problems which included knocking, major loss of power, major loss of fuel economy and car dying at both idle and speed. Check engine light was always on and every sensor it said was malfunctioning was replaced and it didn't help. Unfortunately I could not leave my car with Kia. Kia wouldn't supply me with a free rental. They said it was against company policy. My step daughter was dying needing a second liver transplant as all this was going on and I couldn't be without that vehicle. With only one vehicle (other than the Kia) I wouldn't be able to get to work or my step daughter wouldn't be able to be cared for properly. I told Kia this and still they refused to get me a rental while they actually got to the root of my car problem and addressed it. Instead they said sorry to hear that, we can't find any problem with your car. They actually let me leave with a car they KNEW was dangerous and about to fail. They didn't care that my family was going through a serious medical situation with my step daughter and the car behaving as it was only increased the stress on my entire family during this time. Fortunately my step daughter got her transplant just in time and is doing ok now. Not only did Kia sell me a defective product but all this happened as our family is going through the stress of a child being deathly ill, lots of additional costs for medical related expenses and Kia was told this and didn't care. Kia added thousands of dollars to my already stressed finances by selling me a defective vehicle.
But it gets even better. The Kia rep in Arizona named Steve that handles my case and many others actually told me on the phone that some of Kia's cars die early and that's just the way it is. He insisted all other car manufacturers have the same problem and also refuse to repair the vehicles leaving their customers screwed too. That's certainly not my experience nor that of anyone I know. Steve at Kia flat out told me Kia isn't going to pay and I'm out of luck because I got a bad Kia and have to eat it. That's what he said. That's Kia’s customer service that said that to me.
I have to shake my head and laugh every time I call Kia and their recording says "Rated #1 in initial quality 2 years in a row!" Yeah, and dies in 78,000 miles and Kia refuses to make a full recall or honor it's warranty. You won't see Kia winning any customer service awards or vehicle longevity awards.
My advice to anyone that has a Kia (ESPECIALLY if it's a 2.4L) is to trade it in and get something other than a Kia before it dies and your left paying off a car that doesn't run. I liked Kia at one time or I wouldn't have bought one. What I've found out since has opened my eyes to the quality of their vehicles and their denials of their own manufacturing defects even if it could cost lives or severely screw consumers over financially. Buying a Kia might make you think you're getting more quality for less money but it's all based upon lies and cover-ups. That is my Kia experience and it's the WORST experience I've had with any company on any level at any time in my 31 (47 - 16) years of driving cars.
Darren P jeepers, i was thinkin to buy one of them, the 2L diesel Sportage, but you have freaked me out man !! sorry about your misfortune!
What a pile of bollocks
we drove to jerusalem and back home and it broke our turbo
Thank you Thomas so much for your comprehensive review. It's was a big help in me purchasing this car today. I will be collecting it in a couple of days and very much looking forward to using this vehicle.
Surprisingly entertaining :) and very thorough. Addressed issues, that others didn’t. Good quality review!
I have subbed to a lot of car reviews channel and you are my favorite, elegant review and a very very calming voice
Thanks a lot and keep supporting us!
I have to agree with him. You guys are the best! -Toronto, Canada.
Ahh yes! Thomas you have the gift! C Ya!
By far the best car reviews. Your delivery, english expressions and your calm style makes your videos really enjoyable! :-) Keep it up.
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i've heard & read alot of SUV test on all the cars, but this guy give's the best review of them all!! good man!! thankx Julien.
+Julien Cartwright 🙏🙏
I love your in-depth reviews, personal viewpoints, and conversational style. Only suggestion I would have would be to post times that certain information appears in your videos, so viewers don't have to scan for it. For example, I am usually impatient and want engine specifications and options right away. Still, very well done, thank you for your fine work.
Great review. The past Kia reviews you've made have made the Niro a high probability for my next car. Can't wait for that review. Also the Hyundai ioniq.
Thank you for your calm and relaxing review. I just bought a 2020 Sportage and I really like it so far. I am happy with the quality of this vehicle for the price. I got cloth seats and all-wheel drive. All the interior controls are intuitive. Lots of rear-sear room, and a large cargo area. For the looks, I think the fog lights are awkwardly designed. But if I squint, I think of the Sportage as a Porsche Macan. The one major issue is the mediocre fuel economy--I get 26.5 miles per gallon with the 2.4 liter gas engine making 181hp.
great review as usual, there is also a 1.7 with DCT gearbox and 141 PS for other markets like the Netherlands
A very quiet ride indeed except for the road bumps which are very audible. BTW I have ordered a 2.0 Litres Automatic in the lowest trim. Great review Thomas!
Thanks for your review. I already subbed quite a long time ago, but the Sportage GT will be my car in a few days. Just bought it today! It is the most practical cool car with the most amount of gadgets for around 35k. Nothing else comes close!
great u are with us!
As a Volkswagen man my entre driving life, I must say that KIA has really started to impress me. All I have owned are VW's. The interior of the Sportage is nice. They've done a lot with the exteriors too. I remember 10 or 12 years or so ago when they weren't so much to look at and were so unbelievably top heavy. It's a shame we can't get a diesel option here in the US market. Probably has something to do with all the stuff going on with "diesel gate". I hope diesels survive. I know I'm not alone on this. We just need to develop newer and cleaner fuels. The sulphur content on the diesel we have here is like 15 ppm. In Deutschland I think it's a lot less. Like 8 ppm or something like that. I could be wrong. Great review though like always. You guys should come over here to North America and do some segments. We'd love to have some opinions on some of the makes and models here.
+jasont42 thx buddy!
jasont42 Q7
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Excellent review. I have targeted the GT Line as my next purchase or maybe the X-Trail. This has almost made up my mind 90% towards the Sportage. Thanks
glad we could help! Dont forget to leave out leather seats
+Autogefühl Cheers! and of course.
I have a 2016 Sportage GT Line. Love it!
Fantastic review again, Thomas
thanks Calvin!
Impeccable English. Cheers to you mate! Great review!
thanks! feel free to share :)
Quite right, I couldn't pecc it at all.
Thank you Thomas, Liked your presentation so much, I decided to take a test drive' in the GT Line S'. Model..(2 ltr Diesel), Absolutely loved it! And bought it! Pick up this Friday from Kia in Maidstone UK!.. Who looked after me.. So great Job, and, Great car too!.. Can't wait!.. Many thanks, Chris..
Cool ! Enjoy :)
Very very professional doing review
Many people say it's ugly, and they may have a point because looks are basically subjective. However, if it had a Porsche or Audi name plate, I'll bet you would hear much much less dislike for the appearance.
Dunno how they are overseas but Kia backs with a 7 year warranty here in Australia. That's decent bloody product confidence. No way in hell a VAG product could do that.
5 yrs 100,000 km warranty on major components (engine, transmission, awd system), in Canada.
Woah you guy's got ripped! www.kia.com.au/customer-care/7-year-unlimited-km-warranty
We get ripped off for everything to do with cars, we pay something like 20% more than the Americans for less.
Agreed. Look at a Cayenne or Macan with small tires. The meaty rubber and wide stance that gives makes the design work.
A very informative review, thank you.
you're welcome
Around 38:00 mark, there is an Autogefuhl fan in a car next to you smiling and looking at the camera ;-)
Hi Thomas! You're doing a great job, I love your reviews. I want to ask you this: What do you think that is a good idea to choose a car between Seat Ateca, Skoda Kodiaq or Kia Sportage. I want a family car, with automatic transmission and a relative good fuel consumption. I make around 15.000 km / year. Petrl or dieasel. Thank you very much and I am a fan of you-re channel. Keep up the good work and sorry if my english is a little bad :D ... All the best!
Firstly, thank you again for the quality content. Secondly, now that your team had the opportunity to test both the latest Kia Sportage and Seat Ateca, which do you prefer, as a complete package?
Great indepth review, thank you.
Thanks Brian, keep supporting us :)
Thomas, you are always dress to match the color of the car you are reviewing, professional. Fan from Singapore.
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I have watched this review twice; really good!! However, I don't think you mention anything about the UNBEATABLE 7 years warranty. That should be taken into consideration also when comparing to other rivals in its segment.
thanks! yeah indeed I have been mentioning it in several KIA reviews
I'm from southeast europe and I just can't understand why are flat folding rear seats or option to fold the rear seats from the back so important? It's not like you are folding and putting up rear seats 5 times a day.
ILIJA1993 exactly!!
because they are very spoilt people , too many cars , too many credits .
Just imagine, you want to put your bike inside, you open the trunk put the front of the bike then you just flip a handle and the reat seats are folded, then you can push inside the complete bike. Comes handy if the bike is without a stander, like a race/mountain bike. otherwise you have to joggle around, risk to either scratch the car or the bike. I have this problem quite often, i understand the comfort of this feature.
@@laszlofabian Ok, but is a biker tipical car owner? For most people it's not important. I don't mind a bit of hustle 5 times a year. And if I need to load big itmes all the time I would buy a van.
@@ILIJA26101993 As all comfort options, this one is also really depends on you. For me it would be very useful, as i often transport larger things, i open the trunk, put some in, then i realize oh it doesn't fit, damn, now i have to put half of it down, go and open the backdoor, flip the seats. I would like to have already in the trunk a lever to pull, but it is just my personal view and i would also not buy a model just because of that.
Very informative and fun to watch, thanks.☺
I am very interested in this car and thank you for testing it.
I am also interested in the Honda HRV, but which one is best?
i really like the design. First i was not that tempted but in real life it looks good, has a nice own approach styling wise (i like the red and black finish). But it has to be the GT Line...it also feels better then the more plasticky Tucson.
Great review Thomas :) I didnt like the front design by kia . Any chance you are going to do review of nissan qashqai
th-cam.com/video/Re9y1Z1IalA/w-d-xo.html Here we compare it to the ford Kuga
Nice video!
thanks man, keep tuning in !
Hi Thomas,
Just to let you know. I ended up buying the Sportage because of the big
price difference, quieter cabin, better ride quality and all the extra
tech stuff KIA puts in this car. Cooled seats is pretty nice in a
freakin hot country like hong kong. Also I noticed something I have not
heard so far. The front lights of the Sportage are very similarly shaped
like the TVR SAGARIS! :)
good decision!
Thanks Thomas! It took some getting used to, but I actually like the looks of the car. Including the front! :-) The interior is ok, but doesn't really do it for me. Still, it seems to drive nicely and seems to be a good choice.
If you want a petrol and automatic, you seem to be stuck with 4WD and high trim levels over here in the Netherlands though. And a starting price for that is then 41.000 (also due to 175 gram CO2 and thus more than 13.000 CO2 tax...).
Great review, very thorough as always, well done. The video is nicely put together and I like the presenter's style.
This Kia is an impressive car. Very good value but, more importantly, the Korean manufacturers are well and truly established, with excellent build quality which is right up there with the best of the Japanese and Euro car makers in the general price range. Kia's 7 year warranty speaks for itself. The styling contemporary and cosmopolitan -- a big change from the 'cut price Korean look' of just a few years ago.
I'd say that Kia -- and Hyundai -- have arrived as serious contenders for buyers who want build quality, a bit of design flair and good engineering. There will always be a market for premium brands and a demand for badge status, but a diminished one perhaps as time goes on -- and it's the Japanese and South Korean car makers who will continue to drive this change I think. Honda, Nissan, Mazda, Subaru, Toyota, Hyundai, Kia: I'd say they're all pretty much in the same 'quality segment' now. That means that Kia and Hyundai have come a long way in a short space of time. It took the Japanese manufacturers longer to get up there 40-50 or so years ago.
+medunkt indeed! I feel though that interior wise kia and hyundai are now above the japanese manufacturers
That's even more of an achievement then! Tomorrow afternoon we collect our new Sportage Platinum from Kia in Cardiff, New South Wales. Mit besten Grüßen aus Australien!
Thanks and have fun with it!
Love the design especially the front of this car
Hey Thomas, How do you compare that to the new CX5? Thx for your usual top reviews btw...
See the new CX5 review here: th-cam.com/video/atTVvHGCZ0o/w-d-xo.html
Excellent review. So what do you think about long distance journeys, sportage or qashqai??
thanks! You can take a look at the Qashqai here th-cam.com/video/Re9y1Z1IalA/w-d-xo.html
I'm ordering mine with the optional custom puppy hide seats.
Have you sought help for your fixations in the trunk area?
Hello, great review as always! Which white is this one casa white or white pearl? Thanks.
thanks! uh tough one!
Thank you Thomas, for your drive test. They are very interestings but also usefull for tall drivers as I am also. Do you have drive tests with the 1.6 GDI or the 1.7DSL Kia sportage ? What do you think about the other engines? Thanks again
+Do Gafit thanks! The petrol is more silent but also consumes more, still u can take the gdi
Hey Thomas! I want buy a compact suv, so I have quick question. Kia Sportage Gtline AWD 1.6 t-gdi automatic or Mazda CX5 2.0 Skypassion AWD automatic? Thanks for help :).
How do you stack up the Mazda CX5 against this and the Tiguan?
What a beautiful place OMG. Car is nice one
Hi please do the 2019 facelift model. Thanks
Thank you for such a detailed review and speaking in English. I wish I was German :(
+TheOmmadawn 👌
Kann man in der variante vom sporage auch die drive modes ändern oder hat der das nicht
I think the steering effort may be adjustable, at least in the US.
Hi Thomas! Great review again. Now my 09 Golf GT is completely falling apart. ABS pump is broken so no more stability controls left and I am unwilling to get it fixed again (as you maybe remember) The only cars I consider for hong kong where I live now is 2017 Kia Sportage 2.4L Petrol with AWD/highest trim level. Or Mazda CX-5 2.5L Petrol with FWD/highest trim level. The Sportage comes with 18inch and the CX- with 19inch wheels. The test drive was quiter and less pumpy with the Sportage then CX-5. The Sportage is about 3500Euro cheaper in hong kong then the CX-5. I really not sure which one to get. On the one side i like the driving comfort of the Sportage but the CX-5 has more style inside and out (cabin looks nicer with nicer trim pieces and exterior styling is nicer). Any suggestions from you that might help me decide? And pls dont tell me to get a VW :)
+GeminiNite yeah indeed they come close! Both good cars. Is the kia petrol also naturally aspirated? If the kia is much cheaper prolly pick that one. Dont forget to skip genuine leather
Thx so much for your reply. :) Yes it is naturally aspirated but
consumes more fuel - maybe because of the AWD? But we only drive around
16k km per year. Not sure if that is enough to get huge savings on fuel
cost. Of course I will try to talk to the dealer but hong kong people
still think in the old ways of luxury. Sadly. I am with you on no
leather. I wish there was no leather option for the best engine and tech
spec. We need to change that. :)
great review.. keep up the good work
appreciated !
I don't know Thomas, I've sat in this at a car show, and visually in person it looks worse on the outside than the last one. The same thought was on my mind when I sat inside it. Overall a step back in my opinion, and SEAT Ateca beats it in my eyes.
Would you recommend manual or diesel?
I have this car and its very nice to drive .before this one I had the 2016 kx4 .but this one beats it by miles. its good on diesel swell .better then the kx4 the sat nav is better
I like to watch Your channel. My question:
What was the consumption?
+Miomir Mikic thx! 7 l for the diesel, 10 for the turbo petrol
you killed my doubt abou this car. thank you
+Arilson Rocha 👍
The jokes were amazing. I live German sense of humor.
=)
I can't seam to find any reviews on Toyota/Lexus, perhaps you guys have something against the most reliable car on the market according to different world reports/reviewers...?
what would be in your opinion the most reliable ?
automatic convertor gearbox (2.0L diesel) or 1.6l dual clutch transmission(petrol)?
think that depends on the purpose ... how many km are u driving and if you are towing something
How about KIa's after sale compare to its rivals ? i really want the car but i concern about it..
Well I thought about it this way, if I bought a Kia, and drove it for 4 years, can sell it as a car with 3 years warranty still, more then some of the competition when new.
I think Kia wins both Tiguan and Ateca. The only reason is that I will spare my headache from that 1.4 TSI & DSG. This is just my opinion. Thank you Thomas for enjoyable review. Realy the best. I can never reach an opinion in a car without resorting to your reviews on it
Thx pal!
Hey bro, you look like Stefan from Vampire diaries)))
man u should have your own tvshow
haha thx!
I prefer this over the Audi Q2
Thomas I have this car now lovin it (lush)
+Richard Hawkins congrats!
Richard Hawkins
I also have just bought this 2litre GTS Sportage, is seems to drink lot of fuel though. But overall a good car!
I have this car and I find it very good on diesel but I don't have the s
Great car! I have one!
I don't like the new front face. Otherwise, great car.
wann kommt denn der ausführliche test vom neuen Volvo S90 ?
Nächste Woche wenn alles gut verläuft
is it true that many S-Korean cars are technically better than German premium models ?
no
"no" is not a satisfactory answer
Suberakan Xavier maybe the results of JD POWER 2016 regarding Kia sportage in its segment says something...,
Sportage occupied the first place followed by Tiguan. Of course that wouldn't be relevant to sceptical people...
They are only "better" for people that can not afford a BMW, Mercedes, AUDI and even a VW ;)
they are better.. with german cars you need to have time to drive more often to your dealer bcs of any problems.
Please review mazda CX9 new generatio model
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Base model only and opt for the spare tire.
Negotiate 15% off MSRP and take the cheap financing.
A peppy motor in that car is like sox on your rooster.
I think it looks great, the brakes are amazing, peppy and the quality is improved.
Zero resale value, beware. Maybe go Japan.
The lack of high speed stability and steering precision and cornering ability is disappointing for a vehicle marketed as the sporty Korean here.
I want cooled seats in the new Tiguan...
We need more bmw reviews!
Honestly I thought it was a Porsche when I first saw it on the road.
Why the camera man not sitting in the front when you are talking about the interior ?
it's easier to get the pictures from the second row
I like much more than previous model 2011
hey, could you please do Dacia Duster
we note that
Hi..please review the haima S5.
It's ok
wow
Can you do the Mazda 3 please
Here's our review: th-cam.com/video/DHCukRf84gE/w-d-xo.html
+Autogefühl thanks
A suggestion - don't just test top trims.
Also please test Golf 1.4 tsi. Just a normal everyday german quality car. Who cares about those korean/american/french plastic widowmakers.
Um, people who can't afford expensive German cars like the golf which is pretty pricey for its class. that's why people look at better value for money options which are often the koreans/french/Japanese
There's plenty of people that prefer to see reviews of korean/american french quality cars than of lung-cancer causing VW cars.
+Darkhoof that's all we are seing nowadays. Oldtech cars that want to imitate german cars in interior and the price. Overpriced underengineered bullcrap from countries that stopped developing petrol and diesel engines looooong time ago.
Golf 1.4 tsi please!
Great review Thomas. I drive about 12000 - 14000km/1year. I would like to go with GDI 1.6 135HP but is it enough for this car? 1.7Diesel have 141HP. That's a really short thing. What do you think about that? How is the fuel consumption for GDI 1.6L petrol engine? Thanks
+Armands Ozoliņš thanks! No experience with that sorry but should be enough
Thank you. Today already made a test drive. Great. This is what i will take. Greetings from Latvia
Why not BMW X1.
here it is: th-cam.com/video/nyt-kuSfJAY/w-d-xo.html
+Autogefühl thanks
22:24 Autobahn :D? *Highway oder? :P
Das haben wir gemeinsam mit unseren Zuschauern so eingeführt ;-)
"German Autobahn" ist sozusagen ein internationaler Markenname :)
+Autogefühl Achso
:P
gibts sogar in England einen Porsche-Händler, der sich selber "Autobahn" genannt hat =)
+Autogefühl OK 😁😁
Man, that's a noisy gearbox ... a lot of "clanks" sounds every time you shift a new gear, also, the car bumps a lot !
When I test drove this car I once drove over a small hole on the road and the car did a huge bump that even changed the radio station ... it's a very hard suspension car and not so comfortable The interior material and build quality is way lower than a Tiguan, and technologically is light year far behind from any VW SUV .
Forever L "changed a radio station" is nothing compared to what happened to mine after I hit a pothole - the car changed color :)
stupid look the old model was better i think they are trying way to hard oder?????
In reallife it's so mutch beter than on pictures, most should just get used to something new. Trust me I found it in the beginning not so, but now the car is great.
The only thing about kia & hyundai is their only building cars for about 20 years !i dont know if a crdi would hold its own against a tdi or a dci engine! other than that their well screwed toghter!
'They're' x2. The 7 year warranty should help if there is any problem with durability of the engines. German diesels have not exactly been trouble free.
actually they have been building cars for about 50 years now
true but supplying Europe about twenty years!
german engines are very proven one of the reasons people go for vw etc
I like your thorough automobile reviews, but I could do without the bleeding heart vegan guilt trip about what the seats are made of. And there is NO WAY I'm buying a low-end trim line and missing high end features just to get cheap cloth seat covers to save a cow. Please keep your commentary limited to how good the car is and save the anti-leather seats noise.
Thank you for taking interest in this very important topic!
First to the practical reasons:
1. animal skin seats get hot in summer and you stick to the seat
2. they are cold in winter
3. on cloth or microfibre, you basically don’t need seat heating nor cooling
4. animal skin seats wear out very fast and look like granny’s old sofa
Now to the environmental reasons:
1. There are productions where the cow is killed for the skin first, sometimes even alive, the skin is the most profitable part of the body.
2. Even if a cow gets killed for meat first, you give additional money to an industry that relies on murder, pollutes the environment and harms people with chemicals
3. Does it really matter for which cause a mammal, that is 99 % genetically identical with us, gets killed?
4. To the often said argument, animal skin would just be a byproduct, please google/youtube "leather is not a byproduct" you will find plenty of information. A good overview on all those issues can also be found here: adaptt.org/
Special videos:
1. A special video from Autogefühl considering the use of leather can be found here: th-cam.com/video/8f91KgbVbJQ/w-d-xo.html
2. And another one right here: th-cam.com/video/tMNgcLE0LDU/w-d-xo.html
3. Furthermore, you’ll find footage of leather production here, th-cam.com/video/JipYvuDsI6s/w-d-xo.html
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Help to raise awareness on this subject. Thanks!
Practical reason retorts:
Note that I own a 2011 Kia Optima Turbo with leather seats, so I have 5 years experience with leather seats.
1. I don't drive in the nude, so even in the summer (when I wear shorts) my skin is never exposed to the seats for them to stick.
2. Again, in the winter I am nicely covered in clothing and a coat, so I never know if the seats are cold or not.
3. I am a dude that is always hot. My seat ventilators in my Optima are on almost all year, except for the coldest of days.
4. Leather CAN wear out quickly if not properly treated. But leather also makes it easy to clean up spills or other messes that my 2-year-old daughter can sometimes make. I would have several stains on my back seats now if I did not have easy-to-clean leather surfaces.
As for your environmental reasons...
I realize that some methods of slaughtering animals can be brutal. My original point was not about whether a person should or should not be vegan, rather that these opinions should not make their way into your otherwise professional assessments of automobiles. If you feel strongly about the materials from which a company makes its cars that should be a topic for another set of videos. When I watch your vids I want to know how well the car is made, how its features work and how well it drives. I don't need to hear about animal products used. I prefer leather seats and you're not going to convince me that I should not in the context of a review video. This is especially true when a consumer cannot usually get the full compliment of available features on a car without selecting a higher trim line, which likely has leather seats. I'm the kind of person who buys the best version of whatever it is I'm shopping for... cars, guitars, TVs, whatever. I'm not going to settle for a low trim line just to get cloth seats and miss out on things like navigation, HID headlights and panoramic sunroof.
GTSpeedster ooh shite!!
Behold: The most HIDEOUS-looking vehicle ever produced. Why would anyone buy this mess over it's competitors unless they are total morons?
bro dedicated his account to hating KIA ☠️
Here is my Kia experience. Anyone in my position has encountered the same thing from Kia. If you cannot supply them with up to date maintenance records on your vehicle they will not cover it. So for instance, if you change your own oil you're screwed. Might work if you saved all your receipts but very few people are in the habit of saving receipts of them doing their own oil changes. This ploy Kia uses is well documented if you want to look it up, I have, and it’s out there. Also my car would be covered under the SC147 recall as the symptoms of my engine seizing up (engine needs replaced) followed the exact same symptomology as those the manufacturing defect notes in the recall. The recall notice even appears on my Carfax report. Again you can find all the recall information online. The reason my car isn't part of the SC147 recall according to Kia is because it is MPI instead of GDI. All the rest of the engine is the exact same, 2.4L theta II. Kia says that because my car uses a different kind of fuel injection method that it cannot be affected by the metal filings left in the engine block which is what the SC147 recall is all about. That's totally absurd on its face but that's Kia's position.
The vehicles Kia did recall was done after many government threats as well as numerous lawsuits brought by disgruntled Kia owners for which there are many. Kia's mother company, Hyundai actually recalled their vehicles for the same problem immediately when the issue was discovered. It took Kia several years later to admit to the problem and issue a recall even though they were well aware of the problem. Where was Kia's concern for people being killed due to this manufacturing defect? A car having its engine seize up on the interstate would be something that would concern most companies immediately but not Kia. Unless Kia completely changes the way it does business they will continue to cost consumers thousands of dollars for defective cars and probably end up killing people due to their own negligence.
I had to argue, write emails, file complaints with various entities, etc just to get Kia to actually LOOK at my engine at no cost to me to determine the how and why of the engine failure. Kia refused to cover my car even though it is under warranty and furthermore refused to even LOOK at my car to see what caused the failure. I'm still waiting for a callback from Kia with their assessment. Kia actually agreed to take my valve cover off to take a look at my car once I complained as high up as I could to Kia. This was after several months of my car sitting dead on the Auffenberg Kia lot in Metro east St Louis. Kia actually told me I'd have to pay $1500 up front to have my engine failure looked into initially. My constant pressure on Kia finally got them to say they would take my valve cover off for no fee which costs Kia less than $50 in labor. Kia had no desire whatsoever to know what caused my engine to seize up. Their ONLY concern was to avoid any acknowledgement of any responsibility or liability. Kia already knew what caused the engine to fail. The same thing that happened to hundreds of thousands of the same engines made by Kia and Hyundai. It was the exact same problem as the Kia SC147 recall. Taking the valve cover off will not help. There was no oil leak. No oil smell. Never any indication of any problem with the valve cover. It's simply a ploy for Kia to say we looked at your engine and it's your fault. Who would trust their assessment at this point anyway? I'm out thousands of dollars I still owe on a car without a working engine. Don't you think any car maker worth a darn would want to know why one of their vehicles engines just seized up on the highway? Kia's been super lucky so far no one has died due to their negligence.
Additionally a co-worker of mine had a problem with his Kia and will not buy one again either. For his Kia the car required a specific oil filter made and installed by Kia and if that was not used the engine fails. He was never told this when he purchased the vehicle. His insurance successfully sued Kia for over $7,000 for his engine failure. Unfortunately my insurance doesn't cover mechanical issues.
Ever wonder why your Kia never quite gets the gas mileage it was rated to get? Kia has also paid out for a class action lawsuit because they lied about the MPG of many of their models. The very MPG rating that many people base a large percentage of their purchase decision on. Yeah, Kia lied about that too but kept it hush hush. You can find the information online if you look for it.
I had my car into the dealership (Auffenberg) several times before the engine failure telling them something is bad wrong with the car. The Kia service department ran every kind of computer diagnostic and could find no reason for the problems which included knocking, major loss of power, major loss of fuel economy and car dying at both idle and speed. Check engine light was always on and every sensor it said was malfunctioning was replaced and it didn't help. Unfortunately I could not leave my car with Kia. Kia wouldn't supply me with a free rental. They said it was against company policy. My step daughter was dying needing a second liver transplant as all this was going on and I couldn't be without that vehicle. With only one vehicle (other than the Kia) I wouldn't be able to get to work or my step daughter wouldn't be able to be cared for properly. I told Kia this and still they refused to get me a rental while they actually got to the root of my car problem and addressed it. Instead they said sorry to hear that, we can't find any problem with your car. They actually let me leave with a car they KNEW was dangerous and about to fail. They didn't care that my family was going through a serious medical situation with my step daughter and the car behaving as it was only increased the stress on my entire family during this time. Fortunately my step daughter got her transplant just in time and is doing ok now. Not only did Kia sell me a defective product but all this happened as our family is going through the stress of a child being deathly ill, lots of additional costs for medical related expenses and Kia was told this and didn't care. Kia added thousands of dollars to my already stressed finances by selling me a defective vehicle.
But it gets even better. The Kia rep in Arizona named Steve that handles my case and many others actually told me on the phone that some of Kia's cars die early and that's just the way it is. He insisted all other car manufacturers have the same problem and also refuse to repair the vehicles leaving their customers screwed too. That's certainly not my experience nor that of anyone I know. Steve at Kia flat out told me Kia isn't going to pay and I'm out of luck because I got a bad Kia and have to eat it. That's what he said. That's Kia’s customer service that said that to me.
I have to shake my head and laugh every time I call Kia and their recording says "Rated #1 in initial quality 2 years in a row!" Yeah, and dies in 78,000 miles and Kia refuses to make a full recall or honor it's warranty. You won't see Kia winning any customer service awards or vehicle longevity awards.
My advice to anyone that has a Kia (ESPECIALLY if it's a 2.4L) is to trade it in and get something other than a Kia before it dies and your left paying off a car that doesn't run. I liked Kia at one time or I wouldn't have bought one. What I've found out since has opened my eyes to the quality of their vehicles and their denials of their own manufacturing defects even if it could cost lives or severely screw consumers over financially. Buying a Kia might make you think you're getting more quality for less money but it's all based upon lies and cover-ups. That is my Kia experience and it's the WORST experience I've had with any company on any level at any time in my 31 (47 - 16) years of driving cars.