*Bought a 500 for an ultralight rod. It's very smooth **enjoyable.fishing** recommend casts great. One odd thing- the bale wire is a bit heavy diameter in my opinion for a reel of this size. But a great purchase.*
this is probably the best review I've ever seen on a reel straight to the point! and enjoyable I can tell he knows his stuff I agree with this video Diawa BG what a great reel
Love my BG's.Last week at morehead,I was netting my buddies speck when a big grey jerked my 2500 with matching BG system rod OVER. A split second later ,I had dove over after it. Came up fighting current and fish. Struggled toward the boat,handed the rod to buddy,who proceeded to land my big grey,as I crawled back in.We got lotsa laughs. I rinsed it off with fresh water,and continued to catch trout. BG all day long.
Daiwa's are objectively the best bang for the buck. Not just the BG, but a lot of their spinning reels. You aren't going to find any other spinning reels that are packed full of features, have the same quality, and definitely have the same smoothness at a similar retail price point.
Update: The BG 2500 has worked really well on redfish and specks. Have brought in several reds over 24 inches up to 28”. Reel feels good, cast good and drag is very smooth. I’m using 10 pound EZMono. I’m very happy with it.
I live in Orange County, CA and bought some BG's because: 1) I trust your reviews, and 2) Daiwa's US headquarters is in Orange County and they accept walk-in repairs. The only hesitation I have with the BG series of reels is their lack of seals: two compared to Penn reels for the same price that often have 3 of 4 seals. Several surfcasting TH-camrs say the BG 8000 is fantastic until it gets wet then it's over. I've only fished my BG4000 and BG8000 offshore so far which is less strain than the surf... hopefully they hold up for a decade 👍
@@johnnyreb9398 since my last post I brought a 5000 as well and yeah they are large but not super heavy or awkward. My 8000 took 750m of line when I first spooled it up!!!
I'm looking at buying the daiwa bg 4000 for fishing for stuff like snapper in the ocean on the east coast of Australia. What size fish do you think the 4000 would handle? I don't know much about fishing yet but I'm keen to get into it and I'd just like to know what I could potentially catch with it. Cheers
Definitely enough to mix it up with queenies and baras in the estuaries, and smaller schoolie snappers in the rocks and other fish in the kelp beds. But it might be smart to step up to the 4500 reel, which has better line capacity and more drag just in case you get into big snapper that want to cut you off in the rocks or you like to play around with the smaller kingfish in the bays.
Can’t decide on the 2500 or 3000. I have a little 15ft fiberglass boat that I can go out into the inter coastal and inshore with just not deep into rivers or offshore. I’m thinking the 3000 but really can’t decide.
Would you recommend these reels for bass fishing? if so what size? I've bass fished on and off for about a year with cheaper stuff and I'm just now getting into different specs of reels and things
These reels are amazing and look great, the only thing that would make them better is the max drag. I'd love a 20 thousand series with 50 pounds or more of drag and I'd pay two or three times more for it. I'd love to shark fish with these but 33lbs of drag is pretty low.
I do a great deal of shark fishing internationally with spinning reels, and use my Saltigas and Stellas for that, and can only use about half of the drag capacity; those reels have way TOO MUCH drag to be usable - ever. I NEVER use anything over 20-25 on even the largest spinning reel. 20# of drag is enough to easily pull you out of the boat if you don't have a rail to dig into. Be mindful that most guys catching cow tuna and huge marlin NEVER use over 25# of drag. Those huge Penn 9/0 reels that are the staple in the shark fishing industry have a max drag of 20-22# fully locked down. 33# of drag is way more than you will ever use to fight any fish with any spinning reel.
Took my brand new Battle II 5000 for a spin yesterday for the very first time and I hooked a 20lb yellowtail using a Ugly Stik X2 (medium hard) rod th-cam.com/users/postUgkxM68VkfsQhHaabDce1IwOCXuvumcpbZ_k . This combo was recommended on some website and it did not disappoint me. The reel is smooth, the drag click is pretty cool cause i think it adds to the excitement of fighting the fish, personally the drag is my favorite part. I use braid and 300 yards will fill the entire spool. This combo is my main setup from now on although I have to disclose I am new to fishing.
My wife bought me a Penn Battalion 10 ft 2oz to 6oz. Debating on a 5000 or a bg 6500? Will use on Florida piers and casting off the beach. What do u recommend? Loved your video...,! What line would be best too...thx
You are correct. Freshwater fisherman throwing lighter lures/weights generally prefer an auto-bail over a manual bail. Daiwa, or any other company, would not sell many manual-bail reels in the small line classes. You do have the option of manually flipping the bail. As a matter of habit, I always manually flip my bail because it is better on the reel. But on the 2500 reel, the auto-bail feature is included.
Almost every reel that I own under a $100 has had some sort of issue 😖 . Leaning towards the BG , do you think the 6500 or the 8000 would be to big for an ugly stick big water 10 foot rod?
That is incorrect. I own both the 2500 and the 3000 and it is not only the spool that is bigger. Everything on the 3000 is bigger compared to the 2500. Awesome reels both of them!
good!,i need two medium reels 600-700grs for coast and kayak with 40-50lb tufline/daiwa jbraid, what recomended? fast ratio okuma azores 80 or bg5000? and jigging rioby ap power or better spheros 10000 or other?regards,spain
The Azore 80 has more drag, but it is not as smooth as the BG. The BG is also built to higher quality standards and weighs less. The BG5000 is the same size and has similar line capacity to the Azores 65. The 80 is noticeably larger than the BG5000.
ok gracias!, estoy comparando ambos........incluso bg5000 tiene mas capacidad linea 20/280(bobina mas ancha) vs 260 y 2oz mas ligero que azores65 hasta ahora tenia un stradic5000fa muy contento,duró 10años para pesca costa y kayak en mar (y ultegra xsa 10000) creo q al BG le pondré j-braid x8 40lb/300yds y 180 para mejor hilo 50lb:ygk, saltiga x12.....si va ok, compro el gb8000 con hilo 65lb de españa, saludos!
Every other reel in the same price range that use a bearing in the line roller use VERY cheap bearings. In a $100 reel, I would rather have a polyphthalamide bushing than a low-quality bearing. I have never heard of anyone experiencing line twist, failure, or smoothness issues with the bushing. Remember this is a $100 reel and I am comparing it to similar priced reels.
@MrCloudseeker Either should work, the 3000 with an 8ft. should be great at the jetties, I'm using a 7ft meduim/light with a 2500 for inshore casts great with light plastics
Never heard of this. Per the review in this video, the BG reels have the same high quality bearings that the top of the line Saltigas and Stella reels have. The exact same bearings. This is one area where Daiwa did not cut corners.
My Nasci flexes under max drag and binds the reel. IMO, the Nasci is a downgrade from the Symetre that it replaced. Basically, Shimano is cutting more corners in their $100 reels and Daiwa is doing just the opposite.
The handle can be unscrewed and converted to the right or left side of the reel. As for aftermarket handle options, this reel is pretty new to the market, so I don't believe any are available yet. On e-bay, vendors are selling aftermarket "power knobs" for the BG reels, but I have not personally tried any of them.
The Nasci is actually a downgrade form the Symetre, which it replaced. You are basically not going to match the BG with a Shimano until you get to the Stratic line of reels (which are decent). For Saltwater use (which I fish 90% of the time), I would take the BG.
I own 2 Nasci 5000s and they are awsome reels. I fish for snook and need power to stop them and I get it with the Nasci. The BGs are good reels but to just call every other reels crap you look like an idiot.
Jarad White Thanks Bro I probably will get both when I have the $ but they both seem like good reels. The Nasci seems more light and compact but the BG has power.
i bought this reel around 200usd in Maldives and it feels as almost good as my saltiga 8000 (WHICH IS OF COURSE 10 TIMES BETTER) BUT STILL worth every buck ...i just wished it had just a little more drag to easily handle merlin....this is the best diva reel for the buck....GREAT DEAL GREAT PRODUCT i use a BG 8000 with 80lb braid DAIWA J BRAID) and an okuma Azores ROD works great good combination u can easily takedown JACKS and SNappers even yellowfins the only cons is its difficult to get spare spools for this one
I agree. Thats why I compared it to my saltigas in this review. Basically, Daiwa made all of their saltwater spinning reels between the BG and Saltiga irrelevant. I would rather have a BG than a Saltist or Isla.
I fish at the jetti and inlet and lay down reel on rock when handling fish which dent and nick the reel, especially the lip of the spool. The spools lip's bigger than the spool body so when lay down with the rod the lip will hit the ground first...……...bad design! (nicks and dents on the spool body don't affect the casting or reeling of line). I have the BG 4000, 4500 and 8000 size. I ended up getting the TroutBoy ZM 4000 and 5000, and use my Penn 7500ss. And use my BG else where, not on the jetti. Almost any spinning reel nowadays has the thin lip of the spool design....wth! stupid design...look at the old Penn SpinFisher and old Daiwa bg (bg60)...that's how the spool should be, the lip diameter should be smaller than the body and should be thick and curve upward. The bigger lip will interfere with casting because the line must spool out on a bigger circle, this is more noticeable when you like to cast out far and the last leg of the line that will be out will be snagged and slowed down by the big lip. The Daiwa BG 4500 and bigger size is obvious, bg8000 is the worst. I am thinking about getting the old Daiwa BG90, or the Penn SpinFisher vi 8500 when they drop their price to around $150.
All reels in this price range are made with cheap Asian labor, including the NASCI and the Battle 2. You will not get a USA or Japan made reel with these features at twice the price.
I have 2 Penn Battle IIs that I am going to do a review on. IMO, the battle is the WORST $100 reel on the market; very poor craftsmanship and materials, these should be $40 reels. I also own one new NASCI, and was disappointed to see that they used a cheap plastic frame that causes massive flex in the reel foot causing the gears to bind. Shimano's replacement for the Symetre is an absolute turd. The NASCI also has too much plastic where metal should be used and very cheap bearings. IMO, The BG reel are in a completely different league.
Marco P fished the hell out of 2 5000 bgs probably over 200 blue cats between 30 to 55 pounds .over this past weekend caught 150 bluefish in 8 to 15 pounds these reels run.i was die hard shimano stradic fan but for the money the daiwa bgs are on par.far as penn battle it's not even close you fish battles hard gears wear very quickly and they get rough I owned 3 and sold them for money for new bgs .if you review battle make sure you work it hard I guarantee it will not feel a smooth as it did out of box.
I actually have been fishing my battle 6000 with a custom handle (only mod) for a good year and a half. I've had it dunked, reeled underwater, and almost spooled 3 times and with a little bit of grease and one service it's almost as smooth as out of the box which is immensely impressive especially because my saltist isn't even close to the smoothness. I have caught at least 100 stripers 150 bluefish and 3 bluefin Tuna up to 76 pounds and it's survived. My bg 8000 couldn't survive one run from a 30 inch bluefin and it's drag got burnt
I planned on doing a video review of my Penn Battle IIs and the Penn Spinfisher V, of which suffered numerous problems after just a few fishing trips, but reel reviewer Alan Hawk already did a review and found his brass pinion gear damaged after a couple trips just like mine. In addition, my Battle 4000 and 6000 had corroded main gears from the factory (you may want to check yours). The battle 4000 was sitting in the rod holder while the boat ran to a local island and found the bail arm snapped off when I grabbed it. The Battle is a very cheaply made reel. Make a video about how much you love the battle, but my video will not be such a glowing review.
I just may buy the BG 4 or 5000 for surf fishing due to its greater line capacity only. However, nothing beats any Shimano that has x-ship, or the hagane cold forged gearing. Not even Diawa has those two vastly superior qualities that greatly enhance its power, durability and smoothness. I have no doubt that those Diawa's are nice reels and I'd be happy with it, but to say that the $100 Shimano's (specifically the Nasci) are garbage? Not even close to true.
Working on a Nasci review. I can tie line to a weight, button down the drag, and the NACI has so much frame flex that the gears bind and you can't reel. The Daiwa BG will not do that. The BG also uses better bearings than the nasci and the direct drive handle on the BG is a huge plus over the shimanos at this price point. I liked the Symetre, but the nasci that replaced it is a downgrade.
follow up on my last post... I ended up buying the BG 6500 because the cost difference was minimal between that and the 5000. The thing is a BEAST!! I haven't used it yet but going to spool with probably 65lb braid and use for surf fishing. looking for some advice. Question: would a 9 or 10 ft 2 piece MH or H rod work for surf? looking at one of Diawa's surf rods. prices are excellent! not wanting to spend more than $150.
"XShip" is Shimano marketing verbage...Daiwa and Abu has been employing tHis type of dual/pinion bearing support system for decades. Even my Tournament Z-ia reels from the 1990s have this design.
georgio m we have small minds? Kind of a bizarre thing to say about someone for not liking a fishing reel. All I know is I bought one and it failed on me in like 3 different ways within a few uses. That's unacceptable.
Mainly the gears and the clutch. The drag on the battle 2s is better than the BG reels (feels smoother), but thats about it. For reels in the $100 range, corners are cut and compromises are made, but the BG series of reels seems to make the least amount of compromises to give us a $100 real.
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*Bought a 500 for an ultralight rod. It's very smooth **enjoyable.fishing** recommend casts great. One odd thing- the bale wire is a bit heavy diameter in my opinion for a reel of this size. But a great purchase.*
this is probably the best review I've ever seen on a reel straight to the point! and enjoyable I can tell he knows his stuff I agree with this video Diawa BG what a great reel
this bg real nice reel.... cheap but high quality... this built for fishing.... stradic built for money...
Love my BG's.Last week at morehead,I was netting my buddies speck when a big grey jerked my 2500 with matching BG system rod OVER. A split second later ,I had dove over after it. Came up fighting current and fish. Struggled toward the boat,handed the rod to buddy,who proceeded to land my big grey,as I crawled back in.We got lotsa laughs. I rinsed it off with fresh water,and continued to catch trout. BG all day long.
I can't agree more with that, great review
Daiwa's are objectively the best bang for the buck. Not just the BG, but a lot of their spinning reels. You aren't going to find any other spinning reels that are packed full of features, have the same quality, and definitely have the same smoothness at a similar retail price point.
especially the Legalis
Not their baitcasters though! Daiwa Steez both rod and reels are way overpriced! Their spinning reels I can agree.
The drag on my bg has gone silent, but it still works. Do you know what the problem is or how to fix it?
Desert Dog Outdoors!
How do you compare between BG8000 SW vs GS9, which one is better? please give me your advise
Many thks
I love the “no bullshit” reel review. Lol. I’m sold so I’m ordering the the BG 2500 in a few minutes. Thanks!
The 2500 is a great reel.
Update: The BG 2500 has worked really well on redfish and specks. Have brought in several reds over 24 inches up to 28”. Reel feels good, cast good and drag is very smooth. I’m using 10 pound EZMono. I’m very happy with it.
Dude. I got the 2500. 3000 and now daiwa bg magseal 4000. Im loyal to death to daiwa
Bought my first BG8000 and 6 foot heavy tiger elite jigging rod and heading out to deep water out of oxnard (channel islands) april....cant wait!!!
how did the BG hold up?
Nice review ...thank you !!
whats the best Freshwater reel daiwa makes?
between daiwa bg 4500 and daiwa bg 5000, is the lid of the pot still the same?
Don’t know if I should get it!
I live in Orange County, CA and bought some BG's because: 1) I trust your reviews, and 2) Daiwa's US headquarters is in Orange County and they accept walk-in repairs.
The only hesitation I have with the BG series of reels is their lack of seals: two compared to Penn reels for the same price that often have 3 of 4 seals. Several surfcasting TH-camrs say the BG 8000 is fantastic until it gets wet then it's over. I've only fished my BG4000 and BG8000 offshore so far which is less strain than the surf... hopefully they hold up for a decade 👍
I own a 2500, 6500 and an 8000 in the BG and love them. Pretty much all I use when I fish these days whether it be river, beach, rocks or boat!!!
That 8000 has to be massive I have the 4500 it's my biggest bg and it matches all my other 6000's.
@@johnnyreb9398 since my last post I brought a 5000 as well and yeah they are large but not super heavy or awkward. My 8000 took 750m of line when I first spooled it up!!!
Completely agree.. I have both slammer and stradic FL. And the BG is right along side them for half the price.
Would love to see you place them side by side to see the overall size difference. Thanks
I'm looking at buying the daiwa bg 4000 for fishing for stuff like snapper in the ocean on the east coast of Australia. What size fish do you think the 4000 would handle? I don't know much about fishing yet but I'm keen to get into it and I'd just like to know what I could potentially catch with it. Cheers
Definitely enough to mix it up with queenies and baras in the estuaries, and smaller schoolie snappers in the rocks and other fish in the kelp beds. But it might be smart to step up to the 4500 reel, which has better line capacity and more drag just in case you get into big snapper that want to cut you off in the rocks or you like to play around with the smaller kingfish in the bays.
Can’t decide on the 2500 or 3000. I have a little 15ft fiberglass boat that I can go out into the inter coastal and inshore with just not deep into rivers or offshore. I’m thinking the 3000 but really can’t decide.
Nice review. What's the multicolored line you have on them?
Daiwa J-braid multicolor
Thanks
how come one has a different handle? one has a Daiwa emblem on it
Great review! Preach the truth brother !
You should know the 4500 & 5000 share the same body apart from the spool size. Same with the 6500 & 8000 , 3500 is 4000 etc
Would you recommend these reels for bass fishing? if so what size? I've bass fished on and off for about a year with cheaper stuff and I'm just now getting into different specs of reels and things
would want to cast light stuff like 1/6 or 1/8oz rooster tails
Can anyone tell, BG, SAITIST and SARAGOSA which is better for 70m to 100m fishing. Max catch fish around 30KG.
Amen!!!!! Daiwa over all of them!!!
These reels are amazing and look great, the only thing that would make them better is the max drag. I'd love a 20 thousand series with 50 pounds or more of drag and I'd pay two or three times more for it. I'd love to shark fish with these but 33lbs of drag is pretty low.
I do a great deal of shark fishing internationally with spinning reels, and use my Saltigas and Stellas for that, and can only use about half of the drag capacity; those reels have way TOO MUCH drag to be usable - ever. I NEVER use anything over 20-25 on even the largest spinning reel. 20# of drag is enough to easily pull you out of the boat if you don't have a rail to dig into. Be mindful that most guys catching cow tuna and huge marlin NEVER use over 25# of drag. Those huge Penn 9/0 reels that are the staple in the shark fishing industry have a max drag of 20-22# fully locked down. 33# of drag is way more than you will ever use to fight any fish with any spinning reel.
What kind of braid is that your using seems like a thin diam and looks great
Daiwa J-Braid. It is pretty good stuff.
Took my brand new Battle II 5000 for a spin yesterday for the very first time and I hooked a 20lb yellowtail using a Ugly Stik X2 (medium hard) rod th-cam.com/users/postUgkxM68VkfsQhHaabDce1IwOCXuvumcpbZ_k . This combo was recommended on some website and it did not disappoint me. The reel is smooth, the drag click is pretty cool cause i think it adds to the excitement of fighting the fish, personally the drag is my favorite part. I use braid and 300 yards will fill the entire spool. This combo is my main setup from now on although I have to disclose I am new to fishing.
Daiwa Bg é melhor que o shimano?
My wife bought me a Penn Battalion 10 ft 2oz to 6oz. Debating on a 5000 or a bg 6500? Will use on Florida piers and casting off the beach. What do u recommend? Loved your video...,! What line would be best too...thx
the 5000 would be perfect for that. I would run 40-50# braid with a 20-25# leader with that combo.
so the smaller 2500 version doesnt have a manual bale? what does that mean? does it flip over directly when u hit the handle?
You are correct. Freshwater fisherman throwing lighter lures/weights generally prefer an auto-bail over a manual bail. Daiwa, or any other company, would not sell many manual-bail reels in the small line classes. You do have the option of manually flipping the bail. As a matter of habit, I always manually flip my bail because it is better on the reel. But on the 2500 reel, the auto-bail feature is included.
Desert Dog Outdoors aha okey, thanks for answering! Looking to buy the 2500 size one, really nice reel.for the price :)
Almost every reel that I own under a $100 has had some sort of issue 😖 . Leaning towards the BG , do you think the 6500 or the 8000 would be to big for an ugly stick big water 10 foot rod?
Kennedy Catfishing dont go over 5000. You can fit 310yards of 65lbs braid on a 5000. The reels are pretty heavy.
You, my friend, have VERY realistic expectations for a $100 real. I wish other would realize this reality.
Can you tell me if the BG3000 body is bigger than the BG2500 or is it just a bigger spool like Shimano does?
That is incorrect. I own both the 2500 and the 3000 and it is not only the spool that is bigger. Everything on the 3000 is bigger compared to the 2500. Awesome reels both of them!
Jonas D which one do you like better? The 2500 or 3000? I'm fishing primary for bass.
@@sosafarms I'm inbetween the two which would you say?
Got both...love em
What line are u using on the reel that u were holding at the 2:39 mark?
On that Saltiga Expedition 5500, I run JB 65# spectra with a top-shot appropriate for the fish. The drag on the reel handles it with ease.
Desert Dog Outdoors oh ok, thanks man!
good!,i need two medium reels 600-700grs for coast and kayak with 40-50lb tufline/daiwa jbraid, what recomended? fast ratio okuma azores 80 or bg5000? and jigging rioby ap power or better spheros 10000 or other?regards,spain
The Azore 80 has more drag, but it is not as smooth as the BG. The BG is also built to higher quality standards and weighs less. The BG5000 is the same size and has similar line capacity to the Azores 65. The 80 is noticeably larger than the BG5000.
ok gracias!, estoy comparando ambos........incluso bg5000 tiene mas capacidad linea 20/280(bobina mas ancha) vs 260 y 2oz mas ligero que azores65
hasta ahora tenia un stradic5000fa muy contento,duró 10años para pesca costa y kayak en mar (y ultegra xsa 10000)
creo q al BG le pondré j-braid x8 40lb/300yds y 180 para mejor hilo 50lb:ygk, saltiga x12.....si va ok, compro el gb8000 con hilo 65lb
de españa, saludos!
go for j braid
Zawsze tylko Daiwa ! Always just Daiwa!
Fantastick reel got mine for amberjacks. Its been holding up great
hi i what to buy 2 of these reels for big catfish 45 pounds and aligator gard which sise do you recomendmi to buy ?
The 4000 will work, but I would rather use the 4500 for the largest freshwater fish.
I landed a 4 foot alligator gar on my bg 2500 with no problems I had it on a 9 ft ugly stick gx2 with 30 lbs test
Can these be used for fresh water Lake Trout say the 1500 series?
absolutely. I do just that.
Good review, U should do the okuma azores!
I might do that. I have a 65 that I spooled up and have not used yet.
Does it have a bearing in the line roller?
I'd only use a reel with a bearing being used in the line roller.
Every other reel in the same price range that use a bearing in the line roller use VERY cheap bearings. In a $100 reel, I would rather have a polyphthalamide bushing than a low-quality bearing. I have never heard of anyone experiencing line twist, failure, or smoothness issues with the bushing. Remember this is a $100 reel and I am comparing it to similar priced reels.
I know probably no ones gonna answer but is the 4500 good for boats piers and docks or just inshore fishing?
Depends on what you are fishing for
Desert Dog Outdoors welp for those areas would it be good ?
@@Cayden_pb04 If you are after 100# Tarpon or 300# sharks, no. If you are after redfish or stripers, yes.
Desert Dog Outdoors ok
SALTIST VS BG ¿WHAT DO YOU PREFER N' WHY?
I nerd your point of view
I like the value of the BG better than the Saltist. I would fish the BG or the Saltiga, and skip everything in between.
Just bought my new bg6500 at LAZADA.it was awesome.nice and cheaper reels but good quality.i love my BG6500 reels
is the 2500 good for throwing plastics ?
I have the BG3000 same class as the 2500 I throw plugs, plastics with a 7ft medium action rod.
@MrCloudseeker Either should work, the 3000 with an 8ft. should be great at the jetties, I'm using a 7ft meduim/light with a 2500 for inshore casts great with light plastics
hi.I am going for a bg 3500. but i just saw another rewiew that says that the 4000 has a bearing failer on stress! Is this true?
Never heard of this. Per the review in this video, the BG reels have the same high quality bearings that the top of the line Saltigas and Stella reels have. The exact same bearings. This is one area where Daiwa did not cut corners.
i think he meant the line roller bearing.. its 2 piece plastic material rather than bearings
Going on my second year fishing them now in saltwater. Absolutely no issues.
I own the 3500 BG its pwrfect but heavy reel its 405 g
solid review you can tell you know your shit
Please where to get the rainbow line ?
It is Daiwa J-Braid. Sold everywhere.
is it better than the nasci??? same price... and nasci has more drag
My Nasci flexes under max drag and binds the reel. IMO, the Nasci is a downgrade from the Symetre that it replaced. Basically, Shimano is cutting more corners in their $100 reels and Daiwa is doing just the opposite.
@@desertdogoutdoors1113 is a symetre a decent reel?
Penns spinfisher 7500 or bg 6500?
Mmmm i order a bg 6500
Penn
@@corwinlucky7103 i buy daiwa.im so happy
Simple question : Daiwa BG or spinfisher V ?
BG
Can the handle knob be changed?
The handle can be unscrewed and converted to the right or left side of the reel. As for aftermarket handle options, this reel is pretty new to the market, so I don't believe any are available yet. On e-bay, vendors are selling aftermarket "power knobs" for the BG reels, but I have not personally tried any of them.
Drill out original knob
yes， I prefer BG than stradic！
Right! and you can buy 2 BGs for the price of CI4+
Hate to burst your bubble but the new Stradic fl is smoother stronger and more water resistant
What model is good for pier and lake fishing?
3000 is big enough! this reel can hold more line than other reeels
You should show s tear down of the BG just to prove your point even further if not check out tackle advisor channel
What is the name of the colors line
Daiwa J-braid
Thanks
@desert dog outdoors
Ass whooping in fishing tackle history that's a good one
This or the Nasci for inshore and albies?
The Nasci is actually a downgrade form the Symetre, which it replaced. You are basically not going to match the BG with a Shimano until you get to the Stratic line of reels (which are decent). For Saltwater use (which I fish 90% of the time), I would take the BG.
Desert Dog Outdoors Thanks The BG seems solid.
Desert Dog Outdoors What about the new Sahara and ultagra?
I own 2 Nasci 5000s and they are awsome reels. I fish for snook and need power to stop them and I get it with the Nasci. The BGs are good reels but to just call every other reels crap you look like an idiot.
Jarad White Thanks Bro I probably will get both when I have the $ but they both seem like good reels. The Nasci seems more light and compact but the BG has power.
Awesome review. Daiwa hands down the best, penn is junk
SURF KING sorry I used to think that as well but have to agree that they have gone to junk.
SURF KING I had the gears on a new battle 2 strip out on a medium sized fish. Ridiculous.
SURF KING what error would that be?
penn's pros is cheap, but it seems to be going down.
Penn does make some fantastic reels; just not in this price range. Everything Penn makes bellow the Slammer 3 line is inferior in quality to the BG.
i bought this reel around 200usd in Maldives and it feels as almost good as my saltiga 8000 (WHICH IS OF COURSE 10 TIMES BETTER) BUT STILL worth every buck ...i just wished it had just a little more drag to easily handle merlin....this is the best diva reel for the buck....GREAT DEAL GREAT PRODUCT
i use a BG 8000 with 80lb braid DAIWA J BRAID) and an okuma Azores ROD works great good combination
u can easily takedown JACKS and SNappers even yellowfins
the only cons is its difficult to get spare spools for this one
I agree. Thats why I compared it to my saltigas in this review. Basically, Daiwa made all of their saltwater spinning reels between the BG and Saltiga irrelevant. I would rather have a BG than a Saltist or Isla.
I fish at the jetti and inlet and lay down reel on rock when handling fish which dent and nick the reel, especially the lip of the spool. The spools lip's bigger than the spool body so when lay down with the rod the lip will hit the ground first...……...bad design! (nicks and dents on the spool body don't affect the casting or reeling of line). I have the BG 4000, 4500 and 8000 size. I ended up getting the TroutBoy ZM 4000 and 5000, and use my Penn 7500ss. And use my BG else where, not on the jetti. Almost any spinning reel nowadays has the thin lip of the spool design....wth! stupid design...look at the old Penn SpinFisher and old Daiwa bg (bg60)...that's how the spool should be, the lip diameter should be smaller than the body and should be thick and curve upward. The bigger lip will interfere with casting because the line must spool out on a bigger circle, this is more noticeable when you like to cast out far and the last leg of the line that will be out will be snagged and slowed down by the big lip. The Daiwa BG 4500 and bigger size is obvious, bg8000 is the worst. I am thinking about getting the old Daiwa BG90, or the Penn SpinFisher vi 8500 when they drop their price to around $150.
Just bought the BG4000
Daiwa bg6500 Made in China?
All reels in this price range are made with cheap Asian labor, including the NASCI and the Battle 2. You will not get a USA or Japan made reel with these features at twice the price.
only problem with this reel is that they weigh like a tank
I agree. Corners had to be cut on a $100 real, but at least they defaulted on the stronger side and kept the plastic to a minimum.
This is why I bought a 6000 BG for Pier fishing on a Carolina Rig. To damn heavy to keep casting. I stick to Stradics for that.
Hi should I get 3000 or 3500 for pier fishing for trout, flounder, sheepshead and redfish? Thanks
I got the 3500..its great reel
I love my battle and the shimano nascis are just as smooth as the BG and the penn battles are much better for surf and bait fishing
I have 2 Penn Battle IIs that I am going to do a review on. IMO, the battle is the WORST $100 reel on the market; very poor craftsmanship and materials, these should be $40 reels. I also own one new NASCI, and was disappointed to see that they used a cheap plastic frame that causes massive flex in the reel foot causing the gears to bind. Shimano's replacement for the Symetre is an absolute turd. The NASCI also has too much plastic where metal should be used and very cheap bearings. IMO, The BG reel are in a completely different league.
Marco P fished the hell out of 2 5000 bgs probably over 200 blue cats between 30 to 55 pounds .over this past weekend caught 150 bluefish in 8 to 15 pounds these reels run.i was die hard shimano stradic fan but for the money the daiwa bgs are on par.far as penn battle it's not even close you fish battles hard gears wear very quickly and they get rough I owned 3 and sold them for money for new bgs .if you review battle make sure you work it hard I guarantee it will not feel a smooth as it did out of box.
I actually have been fishing my battle 6000 with a custom handle (only mod) for a good year and a half. I've had it dunked, reeled underwater, and almost spooled 3 times and with a little bit of grease and one service it's almost as smooth as out of the box which is immensely impressive especially because my saltist isn't even close to the smoothness. I have caught at least 100 stripers 150 bluefish and 3 bluefin Tuna up to 76 pounds and it's survived. My bg 8000 couldn't survive one run from a 30 inch bluefin and it's drag got burnt
I planned on doing a video review of my Penn Battle IIs and the Penn Spinfisher V, of which suffered numerous problems after just a few fishing trips, but reel reviewer Alan Hawk already did a review and found his brass pinion gear damaged after a couple trips just like mine. In addition, my Battle 4000 and 6000 had corroded main gears from the factory (you may want to check yours). The battle 4000 was sitting in the rod holder while the boat ran to a local island and found the bail arm snapped off when I grabbed it. The Battle is a very cheaply made reel. Make a video about how much you love the battle, but my video will not be such a glowing review.
Marco P lmao that battle must be a Van Staal in disguise
you cannot change the knob.. deal breaker for me
You can change it ...my friend did his handle already for the BG
I just may buy the BG 4 or 5000 for surf fishing due to its greater line capacity only. However, nothing beats any Shimano that has x-ship, or the hagane cold forged gearing. Not even Diawa has those two vastly superior qualities that greatly enhance its power, durability and smoothness.
I have no doubt that those Diawa's are nice reels and I'd be happy with it, but to say that the $100 Shimano's (specifically the Nasci) are garbage? Not even close to true.
Working on a Nasci review. I can tie line to a weight, button down the drag, and the NACI has so much frame flex that the gears bind and you can't reel. The Daiwa BG will not do that. The BG also uses better bearings than the nasci and the direct drive handle on the BG is a huge plus over the shimanos at this price point. I liked the Symetre, but the nasci that replaced it is a downgrade.
Desert Dog Outdoors doesn't the BG also have carbon drag washers too?
Marc
follow up on my last post... I ended up buying the BG 6500 because the cost difference was minimal between that and the 5000. The thing is a BEAST!! I haven't used it yet but going to spool with probably 65lb braid and use for surf fishing.
looking for some advice.
Question: would a 9 or 10 ft 2 piece MH or H rod work for surf? looking at one of Diawa's surf rods. prices are excellent! not wanting to spend more than $150.
"XShip" is Shimano marketing verbage...Daiwa and Abu has been employing tHis type of dual/pinion bearing support system for decades.
Even my Tournament Z-ia reels from the 1990s have this design.
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Never been a fan of Shimano they have always been over priced and it doesn't look as appealing as a Daiwai
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BG / Spheros / Quantum Cabo. Every other reel under $200 is shit.
what makes the penn battle 2 so bad
Yeah, I thought they were decent reels, I mean I'd rather have a BG sure.
Jacob Dohogne price
Jacob Dohogne yeah I bought one it started binding up first use and then stripped the gear a few uses later. That was the last Penn I will buy.
georgio m we have small minds? Kind of a bizarre thing to say about someone for not liking a fishing reel. All I know is I bought one and it failed on me in like 3 different ways within a few uses. That's unacceptable.
Mainly the gears and the clutch. The drag on the battle 2s is better than the BG reels (feels smoother), but thats about it. For reels in the $100 range, corners are cut and compromises are made, but the BG series of reels seems to make the least amount of compromises to give us a $100 real.