Super Decathlon 120cc Build/CRASH (long version)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- The long version of our build. Crash was caused by bad glue joint in wing servo mount. Company has replaced plane and Candela is currently rebuilding free of charge for our customer. We will stand by you until the end.... and even further,,,,,,,
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Sorry to see that happened, and glad to hear it got replaced. However, I bet that plane could have been easily saved with rudder! Looks to me like it stalled and crashed due to lack of pilot skill and not knowing how to properly use the rudder.
Ready to fly = ready to crash !
Nothing better than scratch built !
I think what happens in a large group like this, it is hard for the pilot to concentrate because there are too many good ideas of what to do - followed by judgement if you mess it up. Basically, there is extra stress with all the extra people/pilots. Sorry to see that bird go down.
I agree with you 100%, as they say too many cooks spoil the broth.
Thats why I stick to foam and electric. I flew nitro,balsa planes in the 70's. There were very few crashes the plane ever survived that a can of lighter fluid and a match was about the only fix for it.I do remember a box full of motors and parts enough to make another plane but that usually took 6 moths to build. I helped my brother scratch build and cover many a fine airplane only to bring it home in a garbage bag,even on a simple mistake. Now I break out the super glue, a foam cutter and take it back out the same night and fly it again. My wife doesnt bitch about the fuel smell,I dont get it all over me now. I can even keep my stuff in the house now. Even in the winter I can fly,just find a gymnasium. Foam planes have come a long way in apperance and price. I realize its not the same as a nitro plane,But really it is. I can fly,and I am happy. Even my oldest daughter enjoys flying quad copters with me. She is 30. I found out spending a lot of money on a hobby is fine,but spending less and still doing something you love is even better. I hope you were able to get a new plane and stick with it. someday,I may invest in a nother nitro plane,but I doubt it. I enjoyed it when I was a kid,now I just want to fly,and not stress over crashing a $ 3,000 plane.
My first plane was a pt40 it survived a lot. In my early learning phase it survived a leading edge strike to a steel barrel trash can and tgat plane was balsa. I've seen people do the same with foam and the result was pieces of plane.
@Glen Whatley
My first RC plane was a G.P. PT-40 as well. I got it from Tower Hobbies back in 89 for $99.00 with an O.S. .40FP, two rolls of MonoKote and two bottles of Ca. I still have the plane in storage.
such a shame, that should not have happened. A wayward aileron should not have brought that plane down, he got too slow in the end & simply stalled it!
He seemed to have manageable control of it regardless of the aileron malfunction, kudos. Although the cause of the crash was a stall pure and simple (low airspeed combined with a relatively sharp turn combined with a tail wind = kersplat!).
You are correct,,I yelled to give it gas,, but the pilot was not very skilled at rudder control only,, just to many things for him to focus on,, Normally I would have been beside him and taken radio but he had his own friend who was supposed to help in case of problems.. thanks for watching!!
I heard the pilot give it throttle just before the crash and was wondering why, we normally cut the throttle to hopefully keep the damage down a bit, IF we can think to do that, at that moment you are usually pretty overwhelmed so remembering to do that is difficult.
G56AG I appreciate your kind words Sir,
It was an overwhelming moment,, hindsight is always 20/20,, we can only learn and hope not to make those mistakes again,, thank you again,,
I had a cheap nitro trainer that crashed. I tried everything, but it just spead up right into the ground. Took it home, and looked at transmitter a few months later. It was an old transmitter that I bought on ebay. I opened the battery compartment, and noticed the wires were shorting out. YEP! That was the problem, and I thought it was me that screwed up. Thank god I only paid $100 for it! LOL
Guy at my field taught me, if you have problems in the air just get it on the ground ASAP, trying to reach the runway without full control usually ends like this.
What a beautiful plane! Such a heartbreaker! Keep it going guys!
No matter who is the fault. A crash is always sad, especially for the owner ... too much comments complains with the pilot but in such a situation normally you have a few seconds to identify, keep calm and take the right decision to save the plane! Sometimes works. Regarding the cause, probably he will never get it. Better look on the next project! It's only happen with who flight.
Don't use ailerons if your plane position at low altittude, just use rudder and a bit elevator for more safely.
that was a tip stall! I have spent a lot of time with the full size and model and know them inside out. Very sad to see it crash but sadly that was pilot error that turned it in too tight you had no speed over the wing when you pulled. I would also recommend that you use rudder in the turns some left rudder would have prevented that you could see the nose was in the air begging for that rudder. on that note hope you find a replacement and have much love with it! remember its only a toy aeroplane at the end of the day and these things will happen.
I agree. Crash was pilot even in failure was factory. I could tell from the crazy swings on takeoff that the pilot wasn’t much of a stick and rudder pilot but more of a bank n yank guy.
Yup, tip stall. Not the models fault exactly.
Can’t look at the damage afterwards and say a smashed component is the cause.
Horrible control, it could have been landed safely
Moral of the Story dont Crash Giant Expensive Balsa Nitro Planes! Thats what Foamies are for which let you crash over and over again with very quick easy repairs!!!
That's right the foamies don't demand that you improve as a pilot so all your mistakes become incorporated into your flying routine and you never improve
@@jeffs7915 Incentive to not crash increases with money invested for sure for sure. But i dont think anybody really intends on crashing their planes no matter what it is...As far as improving and being a disaplined pilot that an individual thing...i almost never ever crash any of my planes foam or balsa. They are all equally inportant to me!
New Decathalon120cc has FLOWN !!! New wing servo mounts worked great !!
So cool. You did a great job!
Did you CA the old ones in?
Tip stall? Man that sucks. I just started flying a few months ago. Starting to realize that coming in with a bit of power is preferred. I've already crashed 2 planes trying to land on windy days. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️😅
thumbs up for the company for replacing the aircraft
+Dave Blaedow
i was pleased with the result .. Outstanding company,,
Well that sucks, that was a stall and to many well intentioned back seat drivers.
*Let the Sunshine In...*
Let us refer to the RC pilot's creed:
We buy
We build
We fly
We crash
We repeat
I will add ....WE FIX ......LOL
I watched a 1/4 scale scratch built spitfire lose an aileron on maiden right after take off. Dude cursed and gave his radio to a more seasoned pilot who did a full power climb straight out. He flew it around for a while then landed perfectly.
i know it is hard to hear , but at first is to kill the engine-> idle , than stabilize the as possible, these 3-4 seconds can help to grasp fast what is wrong.
you did the best you could...
built a new one and go out there :)
Hey, Candela. I've lost a dozen planes too. Can ya help an old poor boy out?
That airframe is notorious for tip stalking . Short tail moment .. they say to fly one well is to work out your legs on the rudder! Pilot error
That really sucks. But thats why I don´t buy ARF models, as mat as it sounds. I can only recommend EMHW Bellanca, in all size as you like. And building it yourself is really fun too!
DjLongCock þ
nice to see the ffa for rc place planes was on the seen. I would of been laying down crying like baby
What a pitty . Such a beautiful beast broken 😢 . And the money....
Man idk if i can put myself through that!! Im gonna stick to my bind and fly foam planes! Lol
He had it made it was flying straight and level until tried to use one aileron to turn try and make the runway. Should have made shallow turns keep slowly reduce throttle keep it straight and level just fly it like you only have rudder and elevator. Years ago I could only afford 3 channel radio so that's how I flew planes with no ailerons. He could have gone around a few times making shallow turns turn long final stable decent to the runway. I don't know why people try to bring a plane in as soon as they have trouble I always try to climb get control of it unless I have no control at all I will cut the engine let it crash away from people. Once you climb try to figure out how to fly it then plan a landing.
should have used rudder ,,, NOT airelons,,, slow stall with induced airelon ,,, totally pilot error,,, as usual,,, ole USN vet
spot on
Heartbreaking, was a beautiful airplane, one thing I know the pilot was trying his best to save it but the throttle up just before the crash was a factor in the damage, if the throttle had been cut to zero then glide the possibility of a hard crash might have been avoided.
That's a long, crowded walk of shame
Yes,, yes it was
I'm not sure to blame pilot here. He had plenty of altitude to bring this out of a stall or spiral, It looked like a control servo shit the bed in flight, maybe an aileron. Just saying.....
Sad, sad, sad! With respect,it looked like a spin during that turn. A steep turn like that at that slow speed must have had some up elevator input. Could it be that the servo damage was caused by the crash. Really tough!! But a 'rebuild'??? I would have said a 'new build'. Sounds like a good firm to deal with…………...
Who ever told this guy to cut the throttle was part of the reason this plane didn't make it home.
Wish i could wangle a free rebuild after i stall into the ground......PURE pilot error there. That had NO NEED to go in, it was under control, just a pilot that showed he cant use his 2nd stick.......never learned 3-function did you??
+1;)
Agree, see it all the time, the driver is just going along for the ride:-( Few understand a stall & even fewer know how to get out of the resultant spin
Yep!!! "no ailerons use rudder"
I think that plane should have been saved. Looked like a stall to me. Why the throttle advance right before the crash? Wanted to do it in right I guess!
Base to final kills more full scale planes than anything else. I lost it, I lost it doesn't help the situation. I usually scream and run around with my arms flailing wildly, it works for me.
As in any arf you should always check all or atleast vital glue joints.
he stalled it out though...
+koch
you can hear me tell him to give it gas, there is no dyhedral in those wings, so once it all started, spiral of death
Absolutely it's stalled going way too slow making the turn. Should have used rudder.
Appears too me to be a typical issue with some Chinese made ARFs, NOT ENOUGH GLUE used during assembly!!!
What a shame to go through all of that effort to put it together and then have it come apart in flight.
TIme on the Sim. will cure all bad flight habits
That was terrible. I'm sure it didnt help having several back seat drivers calling out poor instructions to the pilot.
Do you need to add a weight infront the plane ?
you could clearly see it was pilot error he need to go back to the small foamys
Oh that's gotta hurt & so unnecessary to:-( I see a lot of magnificent planes like this one being flown by people with just basic skills, this is the result sadly:-(
We had same engine but we put pipes for ares because it was so loud
You say, "bad glue joint in wing servo mount." Aren't you supposed to check things like that? seems when someone went to install the servo, they should have noticed the mount wasn't right. Is this typical for this company?
I am no one special, but even I know to check every glue joint/seam on an arf.
Espectacular muy bien
Un gran trabajo
Who ever yeld out cut the throttle 🤦♂️ pilot stalled it as too slow
hey there, sorry for your the happened,
from which company was the Decathlon? Ore was it an selfwork? Greetings adn good look to you
Air speed way too slow a stall will do it every time.
That could have been saved with rudder and some elevator by putting the wings at a up angle in the air it climbs and the equal wind on each side of the wing keeping it level you should’ve brought it in at As high alpha as possible
Crash wasn't due to joint failure.it stalled you can planely see that on the video, the reason your glue joint failed is because of burnt wood from lazer cutting there's no strength in burnt wood. all that burnt wood needs to be remove before glue-up. Look closely at crashed parts in video, on the 2 parts, wp38, there is only one glob of glue and burnt wood. no glue seam just one glob, sorry you also need to go back to basic building techniques.
Even after looking more closely at parts, I WOULD SAY, YEAH, YOUR RIGHT ABOUT FAILURE OF GLUE JOINT CAUSED CRASH. But you still need to sand away all burnt wood for good glue bond.
These are always hard to watch.
Изначально проблема была в центровке, самолет постоянно задирало вверх, больших расходах на элероны и в маленьких выставленных экспонентах на элеронах его просто завернуло при посадке это случается и довольно часто если самолет просто собран, но не настроен! Сочувствую....
Спасибо, сэр,
Bummer dude
Might have been a good clip, had it not been for that music.
a setta Troppl ahno oschmiern lossn
des muasche erschmo dorichtn,.....
Tirou motor para aterrisar e não viu que estava lento demais ai perdeu sustentação e controles não obedeceram, pimba, crash, lenha, chão. Inevitavelnente shut dow
Não amigo, o servo do Aileiron esquerdo se soltou do montante, foi falha de construção, ele percebeu isso em voo e estava tentando retornar para pouso, mas com aleiron travado é complicado, quando baixou a velocidade entrou em spin stall.
Who makes this airplane? It says Candela on the motor mount
Great Planes,, Candela is the builder
That sucks bad. A lot of money down the drain on that one
Got rudder??
Sorry to see that I cringed when it crashed
Damn I am crying for you
By chance does anyone know what manufacturer made this model ? I’m looking for one and like the build.
great planes
this why my 1/4 scale piper cub is hanging from my ceiling never flown lol
Leo Gonzalez if you're not going to fly it, you may as well hit it with a sledgehammer. Crashing just means you're not going to fly it, and your already doing that. What's the point?
You just had a crash and possible fuel leak and a lit cigarrette??! fail
you can put out a cigarette out in gas,,,, tanks are flexible , motor and line were intact,,, so not sure that your facts are relevant...
C'mmon, thats as dumb as you can be smoking when fuel is present, its a no brainer. I know about the cigarette can be put out in fuel, it needs spark. The same attitude as pushing the airplane to its limit, until disaster happens, keep with such logic and common sense, it sure not helping you.
So I bet you only dont smoke when refueling your car just because they dont let you do so, or else you would be that guy (dumbass) smoking while pumping gas... moron!
Overall, I appreciate sharing the video!
@@mazpr2025 you know little about anything you speak of.
That plane wasnt at all at its limit.
Stupid.
Nor was that smoke a fire hazard. Keep your day job
is this a pilot RC model ??
Do they make a full size plane for humans or just a model for this style
Yes they sure do and have been making them for a very long time now. The Super Decathlon.
I used to fly models, my teacher used he had one of these. I didn't think their was a full size version.
Tip stall
tip stall because of too much ailron and too little rudder . sry for you'r lose. PS: first time i have seen a tip stall with a Decathlon;)..
Lack of flying skills shame it was a nice plane !could had landed it just use the rudder and power softly
Big time pilot error.
SPEKTRUM RADIO..???? NEVER do this...its like matchbox...
i know for fact i could have brought that airplane home safely! when something happens like that you got to fly the airplane!
PARABÉNS MARAVILHOSO
adverse has caused this crash.
Just needs a bit of glue
HOT GLUE GORILLA PACKING TAPE AND 5 MIN EPOXY I WOULD FLY THAT AFTERNOON....LOLOLOL.....
Pilot error...
whos plane is this 120 what company
Hanger 9
Pilot error
Pilot error!!
Doesn't take much...
trottl tamischa....
Horrible takeoff!