100% this. So much of NI's Play Series is dedicated to electronic dance music and its variants. Would love to see them make at least one Play Series instrument that's created with alternative rock styles in mind. Perhaps something with distorted guitar and synth textures. It looks like NI liked your comment, so perhaps this is a positive sign of things to come. Fingers crossed.
I listened to all the demos on the NI site and they've got to be some of the best instrument demos out there. I told myself I wasn't going to buy anymore software instruments for a while, but I think I'll have to get this one.
Now that they've announced Komplete 13, I'll save the fifty bucks and put it towards the upgrade. Not sure if all the versions of Komplete have BV drums, but my version does.
Yeah, totally, though if you have Kontakt you can do it easily inside it I think lol You can always just duplicate the plugin and separate in whatever way you want the sounds, the only problem is triggering everything together, if you want to
Funny how it is not a machine drumkit. even funnier that it is not a battery 4 kit. Even though i too prefer kontakt. When will they finally be able to sync Kontakt directly to the Mschine Hardware without needing to load the mschine host and in inside that kontakt etc. to get the colored pads and stuff...
I like the maschine hardware, but hated the host software and sold it. If they could combine the two, I'd buy another one. I did love it, but using it was a chore for me personally.
You’re probably right. If you look at the specs on the product page over at NI, it mentions „468 sounds“ (although we don’t know if that means „468 samples“) and a download size of just 174MB. Even if we assume lossless compression being used here, I’d say it’s pretty obvious that there can’t be that many velocity layers and/or round robins per drum... and maybe there are some having none - especially considering that the whole package consists of 21 kits.
Was thinking the same. With only 178mb, I doubt there can really be many velocity layers n round robins? Either way, this library is interesting, and sounds very good in this walkthrough and will most likely buy it.
@LowLinK - well, it depends on what music you're making / what kind of drums you want. There are some genres where you'd actually want your drums to sound synthetic / artificial - including the "machine gun effect". For others however, not so much. Most people will probably associate the name "Butch Vig" with grunge and rock music - expecting the drums to sound mostly "organic" and fairly realistic. It's fine that NI apparently thought differently, but surprising nonetheless. And I actually disagree about your statement that "samples will never sound like the real thing." Especially for drums, there are quite a few sampled ones that absolutely DO sound like the real thing.
Can the MIDI mapping for the kit pieces/pads be edited? I see the note assignments on each "pad", but don't see anything in the manual about editing the note assignments. And if so, would that disturb the included patterns?
ähm .. man kann die beats NICHT aus dem plug in heraus mit der DAW synchronisieren??? automatisch macht das plug das auch nicht? siehe stylus rmx ... oder hör ich falsch? ... nicht so praktikabel !
Outstanding. Because I've had Komplete Ultimate, it's taken me a while to get around to all of the plugins. Holy smokes I wish I had dug into this earlier. It really is unique sound yet so essential I have a lot of virtual drummer plugins including all the uJam ones (which I love) but nothing touches this one for bombastic sound. Fucking great for soundtrack development and even larger than life hip hop.
“STOMP” reminded me of “Beautiful people” by Marilyn Manson. Both sounded great! Kinda surprised that Butch Vig would develop a drum library - isn’t he the guy that made Nirvana sound like it does? I.e. he’s a hero of mine, but not because of his drum sound...
He's renowned for his drum sound and the drums on Nevermind sound fantastic. The reason that album sounds so polished is cause Andy Wallace squeezed the hell out of the mix.
Hope there's a play series sale sometime soon. 🙏 NI: Matts Massive tutorial was great, TY for that and the ongoing maschine2/ mk3/ +, tutorials I'm obsessed with my mk3 ❤🎶🎵
I'm using Butch Vig Drums in Reaper and everytime I play or stop a pattern a new track and the midi item (notes of the pattern) appear in reaper. Does anyone know how to stop that? Thanks
I just got BVD in my NI Komplete Ultimate upgrade and I am SUPER HAPPY! I will be using this in a LOT of my compositions (Its NOT just for Rock - Juuuuust sayin'). Question: What is your studio monitor set up??? What are you speakers etc.?? Also do you mix with open back headphones??? With a headphone amp too???
What controller is that? I am trying to use this library with the Presonus Atom and it is impossible to get it to work. Why does EVERY drum program have to be mapped differently in different octaves? It is NOT user friendly for those of us who are players and not programmers.
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No offense to Butch but NI these corporate sample packs you've been selling is embarrassing. HEY GUYS IF THEY WANTED YOU TO FIND YOUR OWN VOICE THEY WOULDN'T BE PUSHING YOU TO BUY MAINSTREAM SHIT. ~~~~~THIS IS THE ANTITHESIS OF CREATIVITY~~~~~ SAMPLE YOUR OWN SOUNDS CREATE YOUR OWN SOUNDS
It sounds like garbage. Love it!
This library is incredible. I hope NI continues to expand into the rock world with ideas like this
100% this. So much of NI's Play Series is dedicated to electronic dance music and its variants. Would love to see them make at least one Play Series instrument that's created with alternative rock styles in mind. Perhaps something with distorted guitar and synth textures. It looks like NI liked your comment, so perhaps this is a positive sign of things to come. Fingers crossed.
I knew there was more than one Battery user still around!
Battery forever man!!!
Why not Battery, after trying everything it's the best for me.
i think most people just don't even try it due to the popularity of wav drum kits these days but god it really is amazing
We are here 👍
I listened to all the demos on the NI site and they've got to be some of the best instrument demos out there. I told myself I wasn't going to buy anymore software instruments for a while, but I think I'll have to get this one.
Lol yeh said the same thing to myself that I'm not buying anymore for a while, but think i need to grab this one too.
Ditto!
Now that they've announced Komplete 13, I'll save the fifty bucks and put it towards the upgrade. Not sure if all the versions of Komplete have BV drums, but my version does.
I like the instrument's front panel having the 16 pad layout integrated. More of the drum-focused Kontakt instruments should have that.
Butch Vig is so cool. This plugin is very creative.
I still listen to Phil Collins✊🏿
Butch vig is an amazing guy. I met him and he is as humble as they get.
Respect Butch...Thanks for taking the time.
I love the super cut at the end of him getting pissed lol
LEGEND
I dream of an expansion pack for this amazing drum plugin :-)
Butch Vig, man this guy just knows amazing drum sounds. Now i just need to go add distortion pedals to all my drums, be back in a min.
So with this kinda instrument being promoted I won't be surprised in the next 3-5 years if industrial music becomes mainstream (pop)
To be fair the punchy sound of this could be easily applied to riff rock
4:02 that distortion on guitar yummy!
Is it a proper kit or just a bullshit one shot collection?
Great sounds, but separate outs for each drum would have been a huge plus! Maybe in the next version?
Yeah, totally, though if you have Kontakt you can do it easily inside it I think lol
You can always just duplicate the plugin and separate in whatever way you want the sounds, the only problem is triggering everything together, if you want to
Can this be used with an electric kit into a DAW?
1:27 Who would have ever thought that the Chairman of Itchy and Scratchy Studios would create Butch Vig's secret weapon??
Finally I kit based on Phil Collins drums !!!
So do are the drums from Nevermind included because I want the drums from Nevermind.
sounds AMAZING! But why does this need its own interface for what are essentially a very nice set of battery/maschine kits?
Because of effects
01:44 - "I can feel it coming in the air tonight..."
4:24 "... big weapon in your sonic arsenal. Peace!" Awesome ;)
Funny how it is not a machine drumkit. even funnier that it is not a battery 4 kit. Even though i too prefer kontakt. When will they finally be able to sync Kontakt directly to the Mschine Hardware without needing to load the mschine host and in inside that kontakt etc. to get the colored pads and stuff...
I like the maschine hardware, but hated the host software and sold it. If they could combine the two, I'd buy another one. I did love it, but using it was a chore for me personally.
Like the sound and maybe I'm wrong but I'm only hearing one velocity. I hate machine gun rolls and fills.
You’re probably right. If you look at the specs on the product page over at NI, it mentions „468 sounds“ (although we don’t know if that means „468 samples“) and a download size of just 174MB. Even if we assume lossless compression being used here, I’d say it’s pretty obvious that there can’t be that many velocity layers and/or round robins per drum... and maybe there are some having none - especially considering that the whole package consists of 21 kits.
Was thinking the same. With only 178mb, I doubt there can really be many velocity layers n round robins? Either way, this library is interesting, and sounds very good in this walkthrough and will most likely buy it.
@LowLinK - well, it depends on what music you're making / what kind of drums you want. There are some genres where you'd actually want your drums to sound synthetic / artificial - including the "machine gun effect". For others however, not so much. Most people will probably associate the name "Butch Vig" with grunge and rock music - expecting the drums to sound mostly "organic" and fairly realistic. It's fine that NI apparently thought differently, but surprising nonetheless.
And I actually disagree about your statement that "samples will never sound like the real thing." Especially for drums, there are quite a few sampled ones that absolutely DO sound like the real thing.
Wonder if that would sound more real with manually bringing some entropy into the velocities.
That ending hahaha. Vst sounds great btw :D
Butch just showed how cool guitar pedals are!
Will this plugin map to Maschine Pads without any manual config?
Just downloaded it. Kicks butt! Gonna be very useful. Many thanks...early Christmas!
GREAT ! my Drum God Butch Vig ❤ #GarbageDrums
Can the MIDI mapping for the kit pieces/pads be edited? I see the note assignments on each "pad", but don't see anything in the manual about editing the note assignments.
And if so, would that disturb the included patterns?
How cool is *this?*
Not very if the fans keep turning on *I'll show myself out...*
İt looks powerful 🥁
Butch Vig is so awesome ... and normal :-). Great stuff!
I'll have to get this one... we love you Butch!!!
Who is Butch Vig? Is he just a guy that does demos? What's that thing he is tapping the beats on with the 16 pads called?
ähm .. man kann die beats NICHT aus dem plug in heraus mit der DAW synchronisieren??? automatisch macht das plug das auch nicht? siehe stylus rmx ... oder hör ich falsch? ... nicht so praktikabel !
Man is a legend!!!
Smoking on some Butch Vig OG
These sound great! Think I need this.
Cool 😎
Those snares are exactly what I need
Outstanding. Because I've had Komplete Ultimate, it's taken me a while to get around to all of the plugins. Holy smokes I wish I had dug into this earlier. It really is unique sound yet so essential I have a lot of virtual drummer plugins including all the uJam ones (which I love) but nothing touches this one for bombastic sound. Fucking great for soundtrack development and even larger than life hip hop.
“STOMP” reminded me of “Beautiful people” by Marilyn Manson. Both sounded great! Kinda surprised that Butch Vig would develop a drum library - isn’t he the guy that made Nirvana sound like it does? I.e. he’s a hero of mine, but not because of his drum sound...
Agreed 👍
He's renowned for his drum sound and the drums on Nevermind sound fantastic. The reason that album sounds so polished is cause Andy Wallace squeezed the hell out of the mix.
Check out his discography - dude is responsible for some incredible productions not named “Nevermind”
He produced "Gish" Smashing Pumpkins as well. He's also the drummer for Garbage. It's insane how epic he is.
@@ricktheexplorer And Siamese Dream too!
Can you play this through a electronic drums through midi and does it have mapping feature? Thanks
what do you need it for? better electronic drums have their own mapping? mine for sure...
Hope there's a play series sale sometime soon. 🙏
NI: Matts Massive tutorial was great, TY for that and the ongoing maschine2/ mk3/ +, tutorials
I'm obsessed with my mk3 ❤🎶🎵
I'm using Butch Vig Drums in Reaper and everytime I play or stop a pattern a new track and the midi item (notes of the pattern) appear in reaper.
Does anyone know how to stop that?
Thanks
I just got BVD in my NI Komplete Ultimate upgrade and I am SUPER HAPPY! I will be using this in a LOT of my compositions (Its NOT just for Rock - Juuuuust sayin'). Question: What is your studio monitor set up??? What are you speakers etc.?? Also do you mix with open back headphones??? With a headphone amp too???
What controller is that? I am trying to use this library with the Presonus Atom and it is impossible to get it to work. Why does EVERY drum program have to be mapped differently in different octaves? It is NOT user friendly for those of us who are players and not programmers.
Hehe Packers fan though? :) Good job!
this is great, but I hoped it was a multilayered library for realistic drums. It's all about beatmaking this days!
Butchie... you remember Jersey. Good things man.
Fuck this. I'm buying this.
the starter song has all the feeling of Nirvana Nevermind drum sound, nice
Hell yeah, I always wanted to bring those "Intellectuals Are the Shoeshine Boys of the Ruling Elite" style drum sounds to my DAW!
Wonder how that sounds whit out all that distortion and crushing ether it's sounds like shit or this is not a good demo at all
Gooooooooooooood!
Oh I forgot to say I love the B.V. drums...
thanks for the last minute of the video 😄
I love this guy :)
Brilliant job guys - loving BB Dun this morning.
I like this guy already.
Very COOL! And inspirational.
I’ve tried to download this 3 times. 🙄
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SHUT DOWN THE FANS
Loved the video lol
Defo..wow and me too 🥁⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
This library needs a sequel haha
love the bloopers
No sound!
the rage at the end was worth the watch
The end of that video killed me lol
4:47 scared me to death 😫
It sounds sooo clean!!!
My fav producer
New maschine plus spotted??
This guy is hilarious! Forget about the music. He should be out on a comedy tour and recording a comedy album.
nice
Geniall!!!!!
мощно звучат драмсы!
No offense to Butch but NI these corporate sample packs you've been selling is embarrassing. HEY GUYS IF THEY WANTED YOU TO FIND YOUR OWN VOICE THEY WOULDN'T BE PUSHING YOU TO BUY MAINSTREAM SHIT. ~~~~~THIS IS THE ANTITHESIS OF CREATIVITY~~~~~ SAMPLE YOUR OWN SOUNDS CREATE YOUR OWN SOUNDS
hahhh why does he look like he has past his time?
me whenever anyone mentions butch vig: 1:38
😆😆🤣🤣 the outtakes are brilliant