People like you shouldn't be allowed to vote. What do you mean your X will go to EFF until you? Your X should go to them as long they serve the people of SA
We as EFF followers we r unhappy about the founders leaving the party but we wish them well and thanking them for their wonderful work while they were involved in building the party. Siyabonga but the party will grow without them.
hahahahaaaa.. malema was ok when he stood against zuma, state capture and corruption.. once he changed, he was done.. the ppl have rejected him and dont ask me to show proof, go see the election result.. people said, so if u tell us zuma is not corrupt, then we will vote for him ,not u..
Ssy mkhwebane and many and Mpofu are high profile. These 3 had nothing to bring on the table. I am sure Malema has learned valuable lessons this early on, so we as EFF are happy to clean house.
This is by far the most sober minded analysis of the current political events in SA. Well done Blaine for mastering the art of posing questions to your panel, and allowing them to respond, without interjecting them. I hope your colleagues in the media space are watching 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Yeses man just think, do you really think that President Zuma really wants to go back to the ANC after building the organization like MK no ways. Its just a strategy and its working
Mkp received only 15% of votes, 85% of south africans never voted for mkp. EFF is here to stay whether you like it or not we are still going to vote this nine 9% party, let this song well in your mind.
How beautiful the discussion was l really loved the way the debate was moderated thanks to Channel and thanks to the panelists starting with the ones in the studio with out exception to any one of them but grateful to their contributions and thanks to the digital panelists as well. l will keep following much love . Regards from Kampala
No major losses there non whatsoever, Dali is a mere advocate, Manyi will be missed for his laughter, Mkhwebane was never a politician, Floyd highly educated but he lacks Charisma.... If Anyone of these so called heavyweights were to form a political party it would struggle to get a formidable membership. If Zuma were to die tomorrow none of these guys would be able to take MKP to higher heights.
MK Party are a very, very lucky lot to have scored someone with the brains and temperament of Shivambu. They will gain and grow alot from him and hopefully they won't chuck him out once he establishes their foundations. The only way the EFF can respond to this appointment is to discover within their ranks an SG who can match and counter the intelligence level of Shivambu. I don't believe that Marshall is at that level where he can go toe to toe with Shivambu in terms of planning and executing the party plans to expand and retain their respective voter bases. I think Dr Ndlozi and Sinawo Tambo are the only Fighters who can hold a candle to Shivambu and should run for the EFF SG role. Anyways, EFF will remain the first and only political party whom the ordinary South African citizens who experience racism and inequality in their places of work, learning and entertainment will call upon because they are forever synonymous with the struggle for the total liberation of our people. Nothing can undo the trends they've set over the 10 years of their successful existence.
I am just comforted by the fact that whatever these pseudo analysists are saying its just their opinions its not facts. These are the same people who were telling us that its over for Zuma when he was recalled by the ANC, so basically what I am saying here is that they always get it wrong when its comes to President Zuma interms of their “ analysis ".
Very true, people like Ebrahim were praising Andre De Ruyter despite the reality that he had us on stage 6 loadshedding, their views are very narrow minded and opportunistic
Mk must thank EFF for making or forming the main leadership of mk.EFF is the main tool of black people to find their identity in South African in particular ,it is also a tool for equality of south African in general.
before the elections they said who ever's consituency dropped in votes will have to step down, come after elections Malema then says he is not going anywhere , the other guys also need a chance mos they cant be the supporting cast for 20 years, he could have come back later but give others a chance for now
Honestly from this list on Floyd can be counted as a loss. Mpofu did play a role in the beginning but now he was more focused on losing court cases. The other 2 were just useless
You can all sit there & try & de-campaign Mk.we are voting for Mk.maybe you guys with your great ideals form your own parties let see who vote for you.
Let's l0ve one another we r all South Africans afuna into eyodwa ukulwela izwe lethu....solubusa kanjani sisazondana sodwa indlu emnyama@@emilympiti5131
The class elites are missing the point completely. You guys are going to lose bad if this is your viewpoint. We were there, we remember how life was under Zuma. And you'll live to find out
Sandile Swana is the only political analyst who actually analyses the political landscape. He doesn't gossip, he speaks with no bias, he speaks with a high-level perspective.
The death road goes by many hypocrites and that doesn't surprise us as Eff, as you know everyone is obsessed to destroy the party. Why can't people focus on their parties and leave us in peace (ndlozi is our member period)
Opportunity for new Young leaders to rise within Eff
100%, as they elect new leaders EFF should also look at the reasons for the stagnation in their support at the elections.
@BernicePitso-s4z ... ie when russia moves in ..
I agree with you
mazotti will leave him for zuma next..
+ Position 💪
EFF is very important neh😂😂😂😂😂.... my X will forever go to EFF until I die❤... forward we move, stronger we grow.
People like you shouldn't be allowed to vote. What do you mean your X will go to EFF until you? Your X should go to them as long they serve the people of SA
I'm with you on that one ASIJIKI
I am Mk but ngyajabula if abantu behlala ku Eff coz MK nd EFF ksasa kyobele babe into yodwa but kmele sonke sazi kuthi sihlaleleni klamaqembu coz if ksasa sbona kuthi skhuluma into yodwa kmele shlangane but okwamnje singahlaselani coz sohlangana soon❤😅❤😅❤ syobe sesihlekana ngoba thina sabantu samba nomoya sawufica mhlabeni😂❤
@@SiyandaHadebe-cv5sx uqinisile comrade 😂😂....siyabangena next election & siyayikhupha leGNU...... it's a must!
The panel is Anti MK and EFF, they support the GNU. Shame SABC .
Only 2 , manyi and Busisiwe were not powerful to EFF
Even Dali is not Strong
Even Dali wasn't that high profile
Even Mpofu was not significant. He was chowed in conference.
nobody knows them
@@mkhachanilawrencemakupfuDali just follows 😂
We as EFF followers we r unhappy about the founders leaving the party but we wish them well and thanking them for their wonderful work while they were involved in building the party. Siyabonga but the party will grow without them.
hahahahaaaa.. malema was ok when he stood against zuma, state capture and corruption.. once he changed, he was done.. the ppl have rejected him and dont ask me to show proof, go see the election result.. people said, so if u tell us zuma is not corrupt, then we will vote for him ,not u..
love your maturity my leader
Trust Zuma at your own risk.
Thank u
chest pain
@@ntfubadlamini7128🤣🤣🤣🤣
EFF will never die
Ntsako, vanhu lava va ya ku dyiwenii hi mkp. Never say never!
EFF will never die
Eff is now officially the Nigerian party
@@zazzleq6139 A Nigerian party participating in a South African parliament 😂😂😂😂😂.....ey yabona lamaCoconut
It is already dead. You are all in denial. Wake up to reality!
from Kenya, Uganda, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Libya and Nigeria EFF is the way,light and candle
EFF will survive what may. EFF is the game in town. From Zimbabwe to many other African countries, we support the movement's ideology.
Ssy mkhwebane and many and Mpofu are high profile. These 3 had nothing to bring on the table. I am sure Malema has learned valuable lessons this early on, so we as EFF are happy to clean house.
This is by far the most sober minded analysis of the current political events in SA. Well done Blaine for mastering the art of posing questions to your panel, and allowing them to respond, without interjecting them. I hope your colleagues in the media space are watching 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Mpofu is a former chairperson, Busisiwe and Manyi are not a loss. Shivambu is the only loss i think this is an exaggeration 😂
As for Busisiwe & Mzwanele ai we didn't lose anything there🙅♂️🚮
#StaffRiders
Eff will never die ❤️🖤💚
People are so obsessed with Zuma they even ignore present President we suffer now but u guys still stuck on Zuma
do you use the same logic when it comes to colonialization apartheid
A Political party is a club, departure of political players isn't the end of a political party. It actually gives room for new ideas
Spot on. The branches are the most important than these crosstitudes.
The only high profile member there is Floyd Mabina ba Sola Shivambo the rest are just ordinary members.
Mabina bo swulwa 😂 name noted
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That time, the leader of the MKP is tired of living a life. He is fighting so hard to go back to the ANC.
And he may very well end-up in prison😂😂😂
@@MzamoAdoons372 you wish...
Yeses man just think, do you really think that President Zuma really wants to go back to the ANC after building the organization like MK no ways. Its just a strategy and its working
Hence I say this mkp is Zuma’s side hustle. He is destroying eff, bolstering mkp then return to the ANC. Full circle.
@@shakaX_1 remember he claims to be rescuing ANC.
I can now conclude that there's something special about the EFF
Very true
Agree with you
We are going no where, we have capable leaders in the EFF.
EFF is here for us❤. It's the future and is under attack by agents from a angels.
Fallen angels
The constituency of the EFF is in institutions of high learning.
EFFSC members are not necessarily members of the EFF.
Abahambe!
Dr Ndlozi must leave so that shops can be closed because there will be nothing left.
Ninyile
In EFF I believe
EFF is here to stay. Our only loss is Judas TF Shivambu, the traitor.
We are soldiering on as fighters. We will emerge stronger.
Of course. Even PAC and Azapo are still around
@@JabulaniMathuthu... and cope ....
@makgaboepitanus6969 yah. EFF will be COPEid. Not MK. MK has a base. Cope wa based on antiZumism. MK has an agenda
Mkp received only 15% of votes, 85% of south africans never voted for mkp. EFF is here to stay whether you like it or not we are still going to vote this nine 9% party, let this song well in your mind.
Go and do basic maths of grade 1.
…and the EFF got 85% of South African votes?
I'm from Kenya and EFF is the Haemoglobin of my Blood
My friend we can give you Malema for free, his is corrupt n has dictatorial tendencies
EFF shall emerge very strong
Economic emancipation movement ❤🖤💚the only organisation that made us youth of South Africa to be more interested into politics.
The same thing is happening in DA, n they have never been asked about their racism policy. Musi,Mashaba n many more
I love your analysis, eff is better than mkp
Better for who you really sick 🤢 you need healing.
You not listen to this interview neh. You defending corrupt Zuma.
Abahambe sosala siyincenga viva Eff❤💪💪
How beautiful the discussion was l really loved the way the debate was moderated thanks to Channel and thanks to the panelists starting with the ones in the studio with out exception to any one of them but grateful to their contributions and thanks to the digital panelists as well. l will keep following much love . Regards from Kampala
They maybe high profile as Lawyers but not high profile politicians. Julius stay focused, you will be victorious 😊
That's the key.
I totally agree with Sandile
Best sober analysis so far 💯
I love all of your analysis…top tier🤌 but EFF will never die😊
Let them go
We are frenemies
Great opportunity for EFF... the young will take charge for the better.
At this rate even Julius is about to GWAZA with Mkhonto 🤣😂
This is to make the EFF mo stronger
Next move is a Conference to Elect New Leadership 🤝🙌
YOUR WISH TO DESTROY EFF WILL NEVER SUCCEED.
Did those people win wards that they came from? Or they are just big based on media?
In South Africa we don't have objective political analysts. We have gossips.......
Mzwanele & Mkhwebane r not founders of EFF please
If only Ndlozi can remain, l will believe we still have EFF.
Ebrahim Fakir is an smart commentator who speaks candidly.
No major losses there non whatsoever, Dali is a mere advocate, Manyi will be missed for his laughter, Mkhwebane was never a politician, Floyd highly educated but he lacks Charisma.... If Anyone of these so called heavyweights were to form a political party it would struggle to get a formidable membership. If Zuma were to die tomorrow none of these guys would be able to take MKP to higher heights.
I don’t believe EFF will die. I just think it will remain stagnant with no growth.
MK Party are a very, very lucky lot to have scored someone with the brains and temperament of Shivambu. They will gain and grow alot from him and hopefully they won't chuck him out once he establishes their foundations. The only way the EFF can respond to this appointment is to discover within their ranks an SG who can match and counter the intelligence level of Shivambu. I don't believe that Marshall is at that level where he can go toe to toe with Shivambu in terms of planning and executing the party plans to expand and retain their respective voter bases. I think Dr Ndlozi and Sinawo Tambo are the only Fighters who can hold a candle to Shivambu and should run for the EFF SG role. Anyways, EFF will remain the first and only political party whom the ordinary South African citizens who experience racism and inequality in their places of work, learning and entertainment will call upon because they are forever synonymous with the struggle for the total liberation of our people. Nothing can undo the trends they've set over the 10 years of their successful existence.
brains to steal with brian.yes
EFF is the light
Shivambu was never the SG , so Ur comparison with Marshall is flawed
I never felt this so called Shivambu
Malema keep it up bro
This four left the EFF their just opportunist
Dlosi and Malema thier South African future presidents
I am just comforted by the fact that whatever these pseudo analysists are saying its just their opinions its not facts. These are the same people who were telling us that its over for Zuma when he was recalled by the ANC, so basically what I am saying here is that they always get it wrong when its comes to President Zuma interms of their “ analysis ".
Very true, his analysis is taking side, he is trying to discredit Zuma
The analysts are biased
Very true, people like Ebrahim were praising Andre De Ruyter despite the reality that he had us on stage 6 loadshedding, their views are very narrow minded and opportunistic
Malema is also big on pseudo analysis
I'm just comforted by the fact that atleast you listen to their opinions 😂
EFF is just dusting itself off. It'll come back stronger than ever
13:07 This accent is Zimbabwean🤞🏿🤞🏿very easy to tell😂
I also saw/heard that guy
And what's wrong with that?
@@edbee7674talking on South African business, ho back home
What it is rong if he is Zimbabwe
@@jacklenge531 Zimbabweans are not South Africans, you guys getting too comfortable
We as EFF members we are leaving the EFF to MKP for bringing back our black power
Id say only shivambu, the rest are not politicians..
EFF forever ❤️🖤💚✊🏾
Another Chidima commenting on our issues 😮
I was about to say that as well
Xenophobic you 😮
Mk must thank EFF for making or forming the main leadership of mk.EFF is the main tool of black people to find their identity in South African in particular ,it is also a tool for equality of south African in general.
The only loss here to the eff is Floyd shivambu .
Busisiwe and Jimmy are not loses!
before the elections they said who ever's consituency dropped in votes will have to step down, come after elections Malema then says he is not going anywhere , the other guys also need a chance mos they cant be the supporting cast for 20 years, he could have come back later but give others a chance for now
Why CIC decided to bring Gadi whereas there are people if he trust them? Same thing with those who left they knew he does not trust them.
If malema can tam his tongue. Eff can now grow. New loyal leadership will emerge.
South Africans politics must b analysed by Africans with our perspective
You guys spent an hour discussing the future of the EFF without a single EFF representative? Is this gossip or proper journalism
All these are not leaders they are followers we still hv a great leader in CIC
High profile people who added an immense value in the eff were Floyd and Dali only,the other two were not in that party for long.
The only person who's exit caused some or other move was DP.
“Each generation must, out of relative obscurity, discover its mission, fulfill it, or betray it." so said Frantz Fanon, sellouts will betray
Honestly from this list on Floyd can be counted as a loss. Mpofu did play a role in the beginning but now he was more focused on losing court cases. The other 2 were just useless
Please guys, Mkwebane and Manyi played no role in EFF. They were there for a short time on sympathy. We are not moved by their departure ,at all.
EFF wil become a single digital presentation
Party
You can all sit there & try & de-campaign Mk.we are voting for Mk.maybe you guys with your great ideals form your own parties let see who vote for you.
ALL OF US ???
I love eff ❤🖤💚
Conceptualize the policies of EFF.?? That's what he CLAIMS he has done. No what he has done.
Only Floyd Shivambu and Dali Mpofu were profiled members of EFF not other two, but still Mpofu was not that influential member on a front rank.
MK looking like EFF, green beret.
Green 😂😂😂
Let's l0ve one another we r all South Africans afuna into eyodwa ukulwela izwe lethu....solubusa kanjani sisazondana sodwa indlu emnyama@@emilympiti5131
I love Ebrahim's analysis on Zuma! Have we really forgotten???
These are what we called them izahluleki
EFF never lost but was set free from mamenemene
Only two people were leaders of the EFF
CNothing last forever guys. Politics is all but tempory.
❤❤
Nothing last forever guys.Politics is Temporarily
Forever yone mk party is a project of jz Zuma wen we say eff they say forever yone
The class elites are missing the point completely.
You guys are going to lose bad if this is your viewpoint.
We were there, we remember how life was under Zuma. And you'll live to find out
MK party = madness
Sandile Swana is the only political analyst who actually analyses the political landscape. He doesn't gossip, he speaks with no bias, he speaks with a high-level perspective.
My guy 12:39 😂
"Don't worry about EFF, next election we won't have EFF."
The death road goes by many hypocrites and that doesn't surprise us as Eff, as you know everyone is obsessed to destroy the party. Why can't people focus on their parties and leave us in peace (ndlozi is our member period)
Jimmy is the greatest political flip flopper in the whole of South Africa.He just needs to create his own party to stop confusing himself.
BUT IF YOU ARE REALLY REALISTIC 4 PEOPLE FROM EFF,HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE FROM ANC TO JOIN MKP?
Mpofu,Manyi and Mkhwebane are not were not political leaders.They are leaders in their professional careers nothing more or less
Mxm the analysis of today is just rubbish from both gentlemen there.🤦
What value did they bring to Eff,
Spazashop is finished just close it, it's expired product like cope and atm😂😂😂😂
No surprise here. Corruption attracts
Is Mzwanele Manyi also a high profile?
I would never support any party that support border opening while people suffer in this manner
Why you didn't prevent the whites to enter South Africa or Africa? Tell the whites to go as well... Are they originally from Africa?
The level of ur knowledge is the main effect here......all borders in the Europeans are opened, so why not Africans do the same.
Sandile ate this one