"MC-909 is not just a Groovebox. It's a Mixer, MIDI sequencer, song writer, Sampler, DJ gear, Synthesizer, and Synth engine. Plus keyboard. Plus arpeggiator. Plus whatever." This series will focus only on the Synth Engine.
That song stuck in my head is played on a MC-909. Probably one of the coolest instruments ever created by any manufacturer. Keep the videos coming! Always good to see new ideas on something you think you know like the back of your hand.
Just pulled out mine from 5 years in storage and finally installed the ram upgrade I purchased 3 years ago, took roughly a day or so to get back into the swing of menu diving, but am now working on some of my own patches for the first time ever. So I’d love to know more... keep the vids coming 👍
Hey Brother, IMPECCABLE series on the 909 synth engine!!!!.... actually close to a 'MasterClass' for synth programming in general - in that you delve into how to **apply** it's architecture's functionality. Scratch-sample technique was a nice surprise. Would be curious on your take on any of these topics next time to jump into synth-tutes: 1. Effective part/channel setup on multi-timbral synths, what is best & where. 2. Strategies to get the most of limited FX engines (buses, parallel/series/sendto*) and FX contortion for live/jam use 3. PCSynth midi project management 4. Sampling workflow ( by way of: MC-909 input rec | PC input rec, pre-processing, keeping organized ) You have a gifted way of transmuting highly-technical, "boring AF" technical details into very in-depth, detailed & informative entertainment that is very unique. Your insights in creatively leveraging what's available is invaluable and have a magical spirit & good vibe. Hope the new spot is serving you well & thank you for taking the time to produce such quality content. Forums are plastered with negative comments on this unit and one must come to the conclusion that such types simply lack motivation to actually make their own tones - like someone complaining that a dull pencil sux when the sharpener is on the wall next to them.😎
Great video from you of this Synth beauty. I very much like your enthusiasm about the MC 909! It is so contagious. Very good understandable explanations. Can‘t weit to See the next one.
Awesome video! Really looking forward to seeing the others in the series. Would be great to see some info on the best way to use the sequencer? Any chance you could record a tutorial on a gritty dnb Reece bass with lots of filter action? Amazing to see someone breathing new life into this great box of tricks!!
Nice video. Miss my MC909, need to get another. My favorite part of the synth engine was stacking PEAK filters and using the Structure partials for weird Ring Mod and AM sounds. Really great for industrial & EBM.
Did You try the unison + COSM chorus + oscillator arrangement 4 + slow LFO on the pitch??? Just load a simple JP bass sample under it :) MC 909 rocks forever!
I've just got hold of one of these. trying to find out all about it's capabilities, so thanks for this really useful guide to the synth engine. would love to hear a really big multi layered pad. mainly becuase I'd like to know how to make them myself.
Id say the much bigger difference between the XV-5050 and MC-909 is that the 909 can use user-loaded/recorded samples as waveforms wheras XV-5050 is limited to ROM / very expensive SRX cards. These days I pretty much only use my own waveforms for both patches and kits, including Roland D-50 presets which I sampled (each tone individually) & re-made for 909: th-cam.com/video/uV8kEm80pVI/w-d-xo.html
Im glad u made special mention of the TMT Structures in MC-909, its one of my favorite features of it as well - and they look extremely similar if not identical to the D-50/D-20 structures!
Great stuff! Roland could have done with your enthusiasm and insight on these powerful instruments a decade or so back. 808 user (those automated faders, extra sampling RAM, polyphony and Compact Flash are really useful here) and still finding surprises the deeper you dig. Using rhythm kits for layering sample clips and shots coupled with RPS triggering/mutes and some prep with random velocities is a favourite here. Really enjoyed your enthusiasm, isn't the engine more akin to a Fantom XR/Juno-G? How about some Jarre pads and leads? Greetings from England.
Mick Marshall yes, but I’m very busy now. We just opened a new real estate development in the city, and lot of things running on Me. If I can buy a rack of Red Bull, I can shoot in Saturday midnight.
Hi ...jusr ended up replacing my 909 after the previous one died:( As you are the 909 JEDI online...i was wondering if you give me your postal address I want to send you some files and data (a lot) that will relate to your 909 that I KNOW you will find VERY useable .The data forthcoming will be a bit of a project for you ....and if you can make it work (Or work around)then if possible could you do a video of how to write SVD files onto a smartmedia card so then they can be transferred into the Roland /temporary file section on the 909....IT will be like 909 on STEROIDS.....thanks let me know...: )
HEY MR BMR ...have you any circuit knowledge on how I can take that ice pick top end out of the RESONANCE potentiometer (filter circuit) of the FILTER on my MC505? Or is there someone you could ask ? Capacitor ? Etc That would be great. Your are the man
MC 505 has a digital filter in the tone generator chip. I guess, if You add an extra 470 ohm resistor in series to the VR5 potentiometer middle leg, You have to cut the PCB there, - can do the trick to eliminate the ugly digital Roland screaming resonance. One of My friend just drilled a hole into the poti cap, then inserted a nail and a screw to the panel :) hard limit... One night, he just smashed the MC505 under the wheel of a UAZ...
Did you use midi on both synths from or to the 909 or to or from the XV 5050 Roland. Inspiring with regards to both of these powerful synth engines and how they were designed to work with each other. Would love to learn alot more with regards to sound design ❤
Yes. I have a network based midi setup in the studio. The two synts are really cloze to each other , but there is a difference. XV has more power and much more complex routing. Thus not so good for live DJ situations.... Presets are very good , so the sound designing is super fast.
Here is the other mix with Grooveboxes ... this one is a private link not released yet and not polished but this guy is talented. th-cam.com/video/SkNk5fZheiM/w-d-xo.html
good morning dear, excuse the trouble but I have urgency to know what are the steps that I have to do to do to make up grade to the mc 909? now it has 1.22 on the machine. thank you william
Wondering how the unit can handle Single Cycle Waveforms (SCW) i.e could SCW be substituted for the built in waveforms and utilise the full power of the synth engine? I read that the MC-808 was the killer drum machine (better suited than MC-909 for drums)
Also pepple that are trying to get the MC909 EDITOR to work on Windows must realise .. 1. MIDI over USB will only work on Windows 7 and 8. 2.beyond Windows 8 you will need to use the 5 PIN MIDI ports on the MC908 and a suitable 5 pin MIDI device eg. WINDOWS 10 with a DOREMIDI HUB.. 😊
Thank you for uploading this vid. I recently dug out MC-909 out of storage and very excited to delve into its sonic capabilities. I think this machine is very undervalued and often overlooked. I have a question regarding the SRX-01 and SRX-02 that roland has on its website available for download. I am having trouble with installing those expansions. It appears on the unit after loading them from a smart media card but when I play the patch no sound is generated. So I am wondering if u have any insight, tips or suggestions that may help me. Regardless I love to see others still interested and enthusiastic about the MC-909! Cheer and greeting from FL. Looking forward to the series. I vote for pads, and deep bass sounds. I will do my homework and find the name of a specific patch from the originally loaded sounds on this beast. New subscriber.
TH-cam just hided this comment.. sorry for the late answer. Well, Far as I remember, from Roland forums,the SRX 1,2 free downloadable pack is bugged with 909, but I read somewhere, there is a simple solution. I will play a bit with this.
Hello i have an old mc 909 and its missing play button and some other buttons,i send it to Roland but they dont have spare parts,how can i make it play please
No need. Designed to be loud and dynamic. You can add whatever warmth in a DAW. Anyway, in pro audio we never use terms such as warm... IS nothing else just many additional harmonics, noise and distortion. For a recording engineer, is just a problem :) @@andrewverran3498
@BMRStudio thanks for the reply , I was fishing for tips on my MC505, as I have both...Haven't really had a decent play on my MC909 yet as I use my Pioneer Toraiz SP16 at the moment for sampling...I just couldn't pass up a mint MC909 for 400 Australian dollars.. PeaceFrom Oz.
hi thanks as always super professional !! go installed the editor but on the entry "midi trough" I always have the word "none"! maybe because I do not have an interface and only the usb cable midi midi in out and not an interface? then once saved a song on the "user" machine or on the "card" then I can not make it sound! is the format different? how can I do? thanks and sorry but you're the only one who can help me !! :))
If You select the user or card, is not make difference. The editor is about to edit the voices, not the song. Check Your global settings in the user song. Such as Master level and the midi channel setups for the parts!
Hi BMR , i have the mc909 and mc505 , do you know whether their synth engines are the same ? I know they both use the 4 tone paradigm ? Cheers bud.. ✌️
Hi! The MC 505 is closer to the old boy MC 303, it uses a 64 voice ROM sampler player and a Acoustic Simulation engine. Mostly used by techno DJ,s, because the huge sound and drum set, easy of tweaking, fast filter and the horrible sounding 24 effects… was a good step up after the MC 303. I kind a hate it, because was not so stable in live act performances with Virus and Nord Modular. I sold it on EBay 15 Years ago 😂
@BMRStudio I hear ya ! The Resonance makes your ears bleed, it's good for sampling drum loops , . I definately wish it was a Quasimidi RAVEOLUTION.. Can't wait for your next video. ✌️.
@@gixerags750 next video? We are building something big and new…. And we move to new places and projects. So I’m super busy with work. I wish I have a time to do video uploads… soon?
Köszi a videót , nagyon tetszett ! A barátomnak van egy ilyen készüléke , valamint egy másik csöves előerősítős ( ! ) Korg EMX1 groovebox , eszméletlen trance zenéket lehet ezekkel alkotni :) ja , és szintetizátorral pedig rábillentyűzni még ..... :) - ha jól gondolom akkor már 20 évesek a készülékek , de az nem baj ., hiszen dbx ddp -je is már elég régi és van amiben a legjobb mai napig :) - Üdv. Zoli
Zoltán Schaffler Hát ezek a régi vasak tolják a rokkát rendesen, ha meg kell szólalni :) EMX1 jó cucc, ha kicsiszolod belőle azt a tipikus olcsó surmó Korg hangzást! Elég sokból kihánytuk a csöves részt és kicseréltük Burr Brown műveleti erősítő csipekre, papír vagy styrol kondenzátorokkal. Egy két példányba raktunk még Telefunken balanced transzformátorokat is 1978-ból. Mindjárt helyre kerültek a feszes basszus hangok.... nem folytak össze
Hello, I have a groovebox sampler Roland MC 909 (2002), it has big problems. Initially, there was a problem with the power supply, overvoltage on the main board and a short circuit of 5 volts. Now the power supply problem is fixed, the power is normal (+ 15v, -15v, + 5v), but the device does not boot, there is only a blank blue screen. I think the reason for this may be CPU, Main SDRAM, and internal sampling 16MB RAM damaged. maybe this is not so ( processor wake up, this can be seen on the oscilloscope, the signal goes to the DRAM memory input, the PLAY button LED starts flashing, nothing else happens ( what could be the problem? maybe you know where to get the main board? Thank you for your help!
the mainboard has more point, where additional regulation or conversion happening. Check out the service manual. I will look more after this issue. These old chips can survive overvoltage up to 50-100%. So I have a guess, this will be be a simple capacitor or a Zener diode. Just follow the 5V rail.
BMR Studio many thanks! I will check the 5 volt line again. Do you think that if the panel board is damaged, maybe this is the reason that the device does not boot and there is nothing on the display? According to the scheme, I saw that there is a processor chip on the panel board and from the same board there is a gate to the display ..
hi thanks for the reply, very kind, but I can not give the setup between the editor to the pc and the groovebox! which parameters I have to set on the machine to configure them together. do not you have a link to send me on how to do? use of cable MIDI USB. Thank !! ;)
first, install your USB MIDI device properly. Then, open the software go to the top menu: SETUP and select the USB midi ports in the top row. Then clear the next (MIDI TROUGH) section. Then go to the MC 909, Midi RX setup, check the Device Id (must be 17) then switch off the Soft Trough, then set on all the program change, bank select etc.... Connect the USB midi out to the Midi in on the MC 909, then connect the USB MIDI In port to the MIDI out on the MC-909. Voila :) The built in USB port of the MC-909 is only for file transfer!
@@BMRStudio I followed this and was able to get my MC-909 connected via the editor in Windows 7. However, I can't seem to get a 2nd keyboard to work w/ something like midiOX or Ableton to play the notes. Is there a way around this, something do w/ MIDI not having enough memory to share other applications. I even tried to use the Input through connection on the editor for my 2nd keyboard, and it doesn't work / play any MC-909 notes. Any help would be appreciated... BTW Great work on the channel, new subscriber. Edit, I just switched my old USB MIDI device "MidiPlus 4.x4 w/ an Native Instruments Audio DJ8 and that seemed to help, I can now use the Audio DJ 8 in Ableton and have it connected in the MC-909 editor. I guess this goes to show the major difference between the MidiPlus and Audio DJ8. I can now use my 2nd keyboard to play the MC-909.
Good evening dear, then I could not configure the editor, it does not matter. but I would like to know how I can upgrade 1.22 the car. I already have the 128 card, but can I download it from the official page roland for windows 7? if so what are the steps? I apologize for my trouble! Invia commenti Cronologia Salvate Community
The editor is working with Windows 7, 10 without any problem. To upgrade the firmware to 1.23, just connect the MC with USB, then follow the instructions. Pikk pakk easy. Link in the description.
Do you have any idea how to continue pad's tails or delays from one pattern to another? It's really annoying when your pad suddenly cuts, while music changes from loud part to quiet for example. Patch remain is on. I've tried to set the same patch and mfx on same channels but nothing works. Any other suggestions?
Fatmix Records I know this well... there is no other option, just to use the built in editor and merge the two pattern, If the note is really necessary. The other way, if the tone is monophonic, is to place a same note on the next pattern with less velocity, but with shorter length. To delete the note, again just use the editor. One time I managed to resolve this issue somehow. I recorded a simple overdubbing in song mode, then I opened the second pattern, then I find some special midi message on the beginning of the overdub midi part line, which is about “disable all note off” or something like this. I don’t remember the code. But You can figure out.
@@BMRStudio Thank you for response! But right now another bug has appeared. In song mode (play mode 2) parts doesn't automaticly activates when steps changes. They activates only if I press fwd button or I select any step and after press play parts are playing correctly. Everything works fine in play mode 1, but effects (delays, reverb) activates each time pattern begins to play. And this is awful. I've recently updated system for latest version and this bug has appeared. Is it related?
I have a question for you if you would be kind enough to give me your input. First of all, thank you for the videos (liked and subscribed). So, I am sequencing all of my hardware from an external sequencer, including the MC-909. Therefor I am using the MC-909 strictly as a 16 part multi-timbral sound engine and sequencing everything from external MIDI sequencer via 16 MIDI channels. So, the problem I am having is, I go to an Empty PATTERN, I choose the 16 sounds on each track, I try to save the pattern to an empty PATTERN slot internally or on a card, I get ERROR EMPTY PATTERN and it will not save. I presume this error is due to the fact that there is no sequence data written inside the MC-909 as I am sequencing externally. Do you know a way that I can basically save just a bank of 16 sounds that I have selected? I simply want to be able to save these sounds, so I can recall them later, because I can save the project on my external sequencer as well. This way if I recall both, the song is ready for playback.
Old school trick, find your patches, tune them, then drop a note with 0 velocity into the drum track with step recording. The Roland MC-909 CPU cannot handle 0byte, 0 sec long patterns and songs, on system write commands. It is what it is :) Roland promised a fully functional file commander on the MC 909, but they never did it. Yes, its confusing... You can´t save soundsets, but You can rhythm sets! But I think You just missed something. This word EMPTHY on the middle of the screen is the initial pattern name :) just rename it. But the best trick is this: download the MC editor, and save your 16 track patch settings onto your computer! Or, save the whole sysex parameters into your sequencer.
BMR Studio thanks for the input. I started setting up the program changes in my external sequencer (TORAIZ SQUID) and that seems to be working pretty good. When I was saving on the MC-909, I was changing the name before I tried to save. However I see what you are saying about putting in some ghost steps at 0 so the MC-909 has something to save. Another thing I’ve noticed is that if the sequences are not created on the MC-909 itself, I lose the ability to MUTE the tracks on the MC-909. I have to MUTE the midi from my sequencer or drop the fader on the MC-909. I guess the MUTE on the MC-909 is actually muting the sequence rather than the audio? Ugh haha
@@djmattplay Yes, the mute is a special sysex call on the Roland Mc-909. Thats why we had in a past Roland MC-909. MV-8800 and the VS-2480CD together. On live. But in this case, we always used the MC-909 as a Midi Master, to make sure, the mute buttons are working :) plus much more intuitive to work together with the DJ-s. Turntable fader on the right.....
Hi I'm having a bit of an issue with my 909 any help greatly appreciated. I'm going 2 do a factory reset, change memory Simms and give internal a clean...as maintenance...but before any of that I'm seeking knowledge... The issue is when I start sampling whether from an internal source or resampling...a soon as the sample records as it reaches sample length limit..the machine just switches off and reboots!! Have u every come across this or know what could be causing it?? Thanks
Roland never did for the MC 909.... But, if you are using a Oracle Virtual machine, with Windows 7 32 bit, and You dedicate a USB port with a 20 dollar Midi interface, then voila :) Good luck! download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.2.18/VirtualBox-5.2.18-124319-OSX.dmg
"MC-909 is not just a Groovebox. It's a Mixer, MIDI sequencer, song writer, Sampler, DJ gear, Synthesizer, and Synth engine. Plus keyboard. Plus arpeggiator. Plus whatever."
This series will focus only on the Synth Engine.
That song stuck in my head is played on a MC-909. Probably one of the coolest instruments ever created by any manufacturer. Keep the videos coming! Always good to see new ideas on something you think you know like the back of your hand.
Just pulled out mine from 5 years in storage and finally installed the ram upgrade I purchased 3 years ago, took roughly a day or so to get back into the swing of menu diving, but am now working on some of my own patches for the first time ever. So I’d love to know more... keep the vids coming 👍
u came to the right place my friend
TUDNI MADZSAR KEVÉSTET... :)
Great videos. Would be nice if did a video on basic sequencing.. on the MC-909 of course.
Hey Brother, IMPECCABLE series on the 909 synth engine!!!!.... actually close to a 'MasterClass' for synth programming in general - in that you delve into how to **apply** it's architecture's functionality. Scratch-sample technique was a nice surprise. Would be curious on your take on any of these topics next time to jump into synth-tutes:
1. Effective part/channel setup on multi-timbral synths, what is best & where.
2. Strategies to get the most of limited FX engines (buses, parallel/series/sendto*) and FX contortion for live/jam use
3. PCSynth midi project management
4. Sampling workflow ( by way of: MC-909 input rec | PC input rec, pre-processing, keeping organized )
You have a gifted way of transmuting highly-technical, "boring AF" technical details into very in-depth, detailed & informative entertainment that is very unique. Your insights in creatively leveraging what's available is invaluable and have a magical spirit & good vibe. Hope the new spot is serving you well & thank you for taking the time to produce such quality content.
Forums are plastered with negative comments on this unit and one must come to the conclusion that such types simply lack motivation to actually make their own tones - like someone complaining that a dull pencil sux when the sharpener is on the wall next to them.😎
Your tutorials really helped me to understand the 909. Great series, thanks 🤝
Just 21 more episode is missing...
@ 😂. I will put on my Christmas list
Great video from you of this Synth beauty. I very much like your enthusiasm about the MC 909! It is so contagious. Very good understandable explanations. Can‘t weit to See the next one.
Thank You for the comment! The reason for the missing uploads in the next video. stay tuned! Ill be back!
Thanks a lot for the video. Not much around on the 909, waiting for the next one!
Awesome video! Really looking forward to seeing the others in the series. Would be great to see some info on the best way to use the sequencer? Any chance you could record a tutorial on a gritty dnb Reece bass with lots of filter action? Amazing to see someone breathing new life into this great box of tricks!!
Hi BMR. Thanks for your time making these vids. Would be great to hear when the next instalment will be uploaded?
Just enjoyed this video very much! Appreciate the great vibe!
Nice video. Miss my MC909, need to get another. My favorite part of the synth engine was stacking PEAK filters and using the Structure partials for weird Ring Mod and AM sounds. Really great for industrial & EBM.
Did You try the unison + COSM chorus + oscillator arrangement 4 + slow LFO on the pitch???
Just load a simple JP bass sample under it :)
MC 909 rocks forever!
Thanks for the detailed post. I have a couple xv5080s and haven’t put any time into my mc909, but now I will :)
good work. not many videos on 909 since the official tutorial dvd video was taken down.
I've just got hold of one of these.
trying to find out all about it's capabilities, so thanks for this really useful guide to the synth engine.
would love to hear a really big multi layered pad. mainly becuase I'd like to know how to make them myself.
superhands Don’t worry, You will get it!
So You vote for some big, heavy, biffy, huge, multilayer polysynth sound?
big fat alpha juno hoover sound :)
Pauls Audiolabor You just launched a new channel? Eh... how I can manage this amount of requests about sounds? :))))
Yes. A new channel for a new start :)
yesssss exactly!
Any version from mc 909 editor to windows 10?
LOVE YOUR ENTHUSIASM
is it possible to assign/the Mastering multi band compression controls to an external midi controller?
thank you
When you compare it to the 5050 and the 5080 , is the 50 series better than the JV1080 module ?
I lose track of the models and the YEARS.😢
Id say the much bigger difference between the XV-5050 and MC-909 is that the 909 can use user-loaded/recorded samples as waveforms wheras XV-5050 is limited to ROM / very expensive SRX cards. These days I pretty much only use my own waveforms for both patches and kits, including Roland D-50 presets which I sampled (each tone individually) & re-made for 909: th-cam.com/video/uV8kEm80pVI/w-d-xo.html
Im glad u made special mention of the TMT Structures in MC-909, its one of my favorite features of it as well - and they look extremely similar if not identical to the D-50/D-20 structures!
Great stuff! Roland could have done with your enthusiasm and insight on these powerful instruments a decade or so back. 808 user (those automated faders, extra sampling RAM, polyphony and Compact Flash are really useful here) and still finding surprises the deeper you dig. Using rhythm kits for layering sample clips and shots coupled with RPS triggering/mutes and some prep with random velocities is a favourite here.
Really enjoyed your enthusiasm, isn't the engine more akin to a Fantom XR/Juno-G? How about some Jarre pads and leads?
Greetings from England.
You just catch me with J.Jarre pads :)))) in the 3 or 4 episode, when we do multilayered unison pads with micro shifts!
Thank You for watching!
Cool, looking forward to it. :)
I'd like to see how you can control the xv-5080 with the 909.
Wow! This is a good idea! Probably I have to route few Sysex message to the 5080! Let me think....
are you going to make no.2??
Mick Marshall yes, but I’m very busy now.
We just opened a new real estate development in the city, and lot of things running on Me.
If I can buy a rack of Red Bull, I can shoot in Saturday midnight.
Very good information as always!!
Keep it up!!
Hi ...jusr ended up replacing my 909 after the previous one died:(
As you are the 909 JEDI online...i was wondering if you give me your postal address I want to send you some files and data (a lot) that will relate to your 909 that I KNOW you will find VERY useable .The data forthcoming will be a bit of a project for you ....and if you can make it work (Or work around)then if possible could you do a video of how to write SVD files onto a smartmedia card so then they can be transferred into the
Roland /temporary file section on the 909....IT will be like 909 on STEROIDS.....thanks let me know...: )
HEY MR BMR ...have you any circuit knowledge on how I can take that ice pick top end out of the RESONANCE potentiometer (filter circuit) of the FILTER on my MC505? Or is there someone you could ask ? Capacitor ? Etc
That would be great.
Your are the man
MC 505 has a digital filter in the tone generator chip. I guess, if You add an extra 470 ohm resistor in series to the VR5 potentiometer middle leg, You have to cut the PCB there, - can do the trick to eliminate the ugly digital Roland screaming resonance. One of My friend just drilled a hole into the poti cap, then inserted a nail and a screw to the panel :) hard limit... One night, he just smashed the MC505 under the wheel of a UAZ...
@BMRStudio cheers, thanks for the reply Mr BMR..
Did you use midi on both synths from or to the 909 or to or from the XV 5050 Roland. Inspiring with regards to both of these powerful synth engines and how they were designed to work with each other. Would love to learn alot more with regards to sound design ❤
Yes. I have a network based midi setup in the studio. The two synts are really cloze to each other , but there is a difference. XV has more power and much more complex routing. Thus not so good for live DJ situations.... Presets are very good , so the sound designing is super fast.
You sir are the “sound monster”
With My horrible voice.. sure :)
Here is the other mix with Grooveboxes ... this one is a private link not released yet and not polished but this guy is talented. th-cam.com/video/SkNk5fZheiM/w-d-xo.html
good morning dear, excuse the trouble but I have urgency to know what are the steps that I have to do to do to make up grade to the mc 909? now it has 1.22 on the machine. thank you
william
Wondering how the unit can handle Single Cycle Waveforms (SCW) i.e could SCW be substituted for the built in waveforms and utilise the full power of the synth engine? I read that the MC-808 was the killer drum machine (better suited than MC-909 for drums)
Chris Foster we can check this with user samples. Great idea :) I’m sure, the results will be kind of crap hehehehe
www.adventurekid.se/akrt/waveforms/
pack downloaded, this will be in the next video! THX!
@@BMRStudio did you ever get around to using these?
Also pepple that are trying to get the MC909 EDITOR to work on Windows must realise ..
1. MIDI over USB will only work on Windows 7 and 8.
2.beyond Windows 8 you will need to use the 5 PIN MIDI ports on the MC908 and a suitable 5 pin MIDI device eg. WINDOWS 10 with a DOREMIDI HUB..
😊
Thank you for uploading this vid. I recently dug out MC-909 out of storage and very excited to delve into its sonic capabilities. I think this machine is very undervalued and often overlooked. I have a question regarding the SRX-01 and SRX-02 that roland has on its website available for download. I am having trouble with installing those expansions. It appears on the unit after loading them from a smart media card but when I play the patch no sound is generated. So I am wondering if u have any insight, tips or suggestions that may help me. Regardless I love to see others still interested and enthusiastic about the MC-909! Cheer and greeting from FL. Looking forward to the series. I vote for pads, and deep bass sounds. I will do my homework and find the name of a specific patch from the originally loaded sounds on this beast. New subscriber.
TH-cam just hided this comment.. sorry for the late answer.
Well, Far as I remember, from Roland forums,the SRX 1,2 free downloadable pack is bugged with 909, but I read somewhere, there is a simple solution. I will play a bit with this.
Thank you for your response. I am eagerly awaiting your next episode. Cheers.
Hello i have an old mc 909 and its missing play button and some other buttons,i send it to Roland but they dont have spare parts,how can i make it play please
Buy another old MC-909 for parts
19:10 Add movement
Any stereo pre amp style guitar pedal you could pass main outs through to warm up the final sound ?
Warm up the sound of the MC?
@@BMRStudio yes
No need. Designed to be loud and dynamic. You can add whatever warmth in a DAW.
Anyway, in pro audio we never use terms such as warm... IS nothing else just many additional harmonics, noise and distortion. For a recording engineer, is just a problem :) @@andrewverran3498
@BMRStudio thanks for the reply , I was fishing for tips on my MC505, as I have both...Haven't really had a decent play on my MC909 yet as I use my Pioneer Toraiz SP16 at the moment for sampling...I just couldn't pass up a mint MC909 for 400 Australian dollars..
PeaceFrom Oz.
dude, you need to do another video on that PATCH STRUCTURE, thats off the hook
Top info as always!!
Is it possible to call up the individual tones that make up a patch from the srx expansion board patch list ?Thanks
Good request! I no have clue. Time hunt the king of SRX boards :) the 05! I will come back with the answer!
hi thanks as always super professional !! go installed the editor but on the entry "midi trough" I always have the word "none"! maybe because I do not have an interface and only the usb cable midi midi in out and not an interface? then once saved a song on the "user" machine or on the "card" then I can not make it sound! is the format different? how can I do? thanks and sorry but you're the only one who can help me !! :))
None is the good choice :)
If You select the user or card, is not make difference. The editor is about to edit the voices, not the song. Check Your global settings in the user song. Such as Master level and the midi channel setups for the parts!
Hi BMR , i have the mc909 and mc505 , do you know whether their synth engines are the same ? I know they both use the 4 tone paradigm ?
Cheers bud..
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Hi! The MC 505 is closer to the old boy MC 303, it uses a 64 voice ROM sampler player and a Acoustic Simulation engine. Mostly used by techno DJ,s, because the huge sound and drum set, easy of tweaking, fast filter and the horrible sounding 24 effects… was a good step up after the MC 303. I kind a hate it, because was not so stable in live act performances with Virus and Nord Modular. I sold it on EBay 15 Years ago 😂
@BMRStudio I hear ya ! The Resonance makes your ears bleed, it's good for sampling drum loops , .
I definately wish it was a Quasimidi RAVEOLUTION..
Can't wait for your next video.
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@@gixerags750 next video? We are building something big and new…. And we move to new places and projects. So I’m super busy with work. I wish I have a time to do video uploads… soon?
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you are awesome
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Thank You! YW!
hi dear friend, happy new year! I wanted to ask you if there is a software or an editor you can use and download windows 7? Thank you dear.
as always... Link in the description :) on the bottom of the Roland web page, called MC-909 Editor Version 1.22
Köszi a videót , nagyon tetszett ! A barátomnak van egy ilyen készüléke , valamint egy másik csöves előerősítős ( ! ) Korg EMX1 groovebox , eszméletlen trance zenéket lehet ezekkel alkotni :) ja , és szintetizátorral pedig rábillentyűzni még ..... :) - ha jól gondolom akkor már 20 évesek a készülékek , de az nem baj ., hiszen dbx ddp -je is már elég régi és van amiben a legjobb mai napig :) - Üdv. Zoli
Zoltán Schaffler Hát ezek a régi vasak tolják a rokkát rendesen, ha meg kell szólalni :) EMX1 jó cucc, ha kicsiszolod belőle azt a tipikus olcsó surmó Korg hangzást! Elég sokból kihánytuk a csöves részt és kicseréltük Burr Brown műveleti erősítő csipekre, papír vagy styrol kondenzátorokkal. Egy két példányba raktunk még Telefunken balanced transzformátorokat is 1978-ból. Mindjárt helyre kerültek a feszes basszus hangok.... nem folytak össze
Hello, I have a groovebox sampler Roland MC 909 (2002), it has big problems. Initially, there was a problem with the power supply, overvoltage on the main board and a short circuit of 5 volts. Now the power supply problem is fixed, the power is normal (+ 15v, -15v, + 5v), but the device does not boot, there is only a blank blue screen. I think the reason for this may be CPU, Main SDRAM, and internal sampling 16MB RAM damaged. maybe this is not so ( processor wake up, this can be seen on the oscilloscope, the signal goes to the DRAM memory input, the PLAY button LED starts flashing, nothing else happens ( what could be the problem? maybe you know where to get the main board?
Thank you for your help!
the mainboard has more point, where additional regulation or conversion happening. Check out the service manual. I will look more after this issue. These old chips can survive overvoltage up to 50-100%. So I have a guess, this will be be a simple capacitor or a Zener diode. Just follow the 5V rail.
BMR Studio many thanks! I will check the 5 volt line again. Do you think that if the panel board is damaged, maybe this is the reason that the device does not boot and there is nothing on the display? According to the scheme, I saw that there is a processor chip on the panel board and from the same board there is a gate to the display ..
@@shinegrooves8817 if you turn the contrast on the display You see the individual LCD dots?
@@BMRStudio when you turn the contrast knob, nothing changes, there are no pixels on the screen, only the backlight
hi thanks for the reply, very kind, but I can not give the setup between the editor to the pc and the groovebox! which parameters I have to set on the machine to configure them together. do not you have a link to send me on how to do? use of cable MIDI USB. Thank !! ;)
first, install your USB MIDI device properly. Then, open the software go to the top menu: SETUP and select the USB midi ports in the top row. Then clear the next (MIDI TROUGH) section. Then go to the MC 909, Midi RX setup, check the Device Id (must be 17) then switch off the Soft Trough, then set on all the program change, bank select etc.... Connect the USB midi out to the Midi in on the MC 909, then connect the USB MIDI In port to the MIDI out on the MC-909. Voila :) The built in USB port of the MC-909 is only for file transfer!
@@BMRStudio I followed this and was able to get my MC-909 connected via the editor in Windows 7. However, I can't seem to get a 2nd keyboard to work w/ something like midiOX or Ableton to play the notes. Is there a way around this, something do w/ MIDI not having enough memory to share other applications. I even tried to use the Input through connection on the editor for my 2nd keyboard, and it doesn't work / play any MC-909 notes. Any help would be appreciated... BTW Great work on the channel, new subscriber.
Edit, I just switched my old USB MIDI device "MidiPlus 4.x4 w/ an Native Instruments Audio DJ8 and that seemed to help, I can now use the Audio DJ 8 in Ableton and have it connected in the MC-909 editor. I guess this goes to show the major difference between the MidiPlus and Audio DJ8. I can now use my 2nd keyboard to play the MC-909.
Good evening dear, then I could not configure the editor, it does not matter. but I would like to know how I can upgrade 1.22 the car. I already have the 128 card, but can I download it from the official page roland for windows 7? if so what are the steps? I apologize for my trouble!
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The editor is working with Windows 7, 10 without any problem.
To upgrade the firmware to 1.23, just connect the MC with USB, then follow the instructions. Pikk pakk easy. Link in the description.
Do you have any idea how to continue pad's tails or delays from one pattern to another? It's really annoying when your pad suddenly cuts, while music changes from loud part to quiet for example. Patch remain is on. I've tried to set the same patch and mfx on same channels but nothing works. Any other suggestions?
Fatmix Records I know this well... there is no other option, just to use the built in editor and merge the two pattern, If the note is really necessary. The other way, if the tone is monophonic, is to place a same note on the next pattern with less velocity, but with shorter length. To delete the note, again just use the editor. One time I managed to resolve this issue somehow. I recorded a simple overdubbing in song mode, then I opened the second pattern, then I find some special midi message on the beginning of the overdub midi part line, which is about “disable all note off” or something like this. I don’t remember the code. But You can figure out.
Fatmix Records I will find this song somewhere, then I will show it to You.
@@BMRStudio Thank you for response! But right now another bug has appeared. In song mode (play mode 2) parts doesn't automaticly activates when steps changes. They activates only if I press fwd button or I select any step and after press play parts are playing correctly. Everything works fine in play mode 1, but effects (delays, reverb) activates each time pattern begins to play. And this is awful. I've recently updated system for latest version and this bug has appeared. Is it related?
Fatmix Records looks to me I need to investigate this in the next episode:) sounds interesting!
@@BMRStudio I tried to make a factory reset. But it didn't help too. I can't believe it's a feature))
I have a question for you if you would be kind enough to give me your input. First of all, thank you for the videos (liked and subscribed). So, I am sequencing all of my hardware from an external sequencer, including the MC-909. Therefor I am using the MC-909 strictly as a 16 part multi-timbral sound engine and sequencing everything from external MIDI sequencer via 16 MIDI channels. So, the problem I am having is, I go to an Empty PATTERN, I choose the 16 sounds on each track, I try to save the pattern to an empty PATTERN slot internally or on a card, I get ERROR EMPTY PATTERN and it will not save. I presume this error is due to the fact that there is no sequence data written inside the MC-909 as I am sequencing externally. Do you know a way that I can basically save just a bank of 16 sounds that I have selected? I simply want to be able to save these sounds, so I can recall them later, because I can save the project on my external sequencer as well. This way if I recall both, the song is ready for playback.
Old school trick, find your patches, tune them, then drop a note with 0 velocity into the drum track with step recording.
The Roland MC-909 CPU cannot handle 0byte, 0 sec long patterns and songs, on system write commands. It is what it is :) Roland promised a fully functional file commander on the MC 909, but they never did it.
Yes, its confusing... You can´t save soundsets, but You can rhythm sets!
But I think You just missed something. This word EMPTHY on the middle of the screen is the initial pattern name :)
just rename it.
But the best trick is this: download the MC editor, and save your 16 track patch settings onto your computer!
Or, save the whole sysex parameters into your sequencer.
BMR Studio thanks for the input. I started setting up the program changes in my external sequencer (TORAIZ SQUID) and that seems to be working pretty good.
When I was saving on the MC-909, I was changing the name before I tried to save. However I see what you are saying about putting in some ghost steps at 0 so the MC-909 has something to save.
Another thing I’ve noticed is that if the sequences are not created on the MC-909 itself, I lose the ability to MUTE the tracks on the MC-909. I have to MUTE the midi from my sequencer or drop the fader on the MC-909. I guess the MUTE on the MC-909 is actually muting the sequence rather than the audio? Ugh haha
@@djmattplay Yes, the mute is a special sysex call on the Roland Mc-909.
Thats why we had in a past Roland MC-909. MV-8800 and the VS-2480CD together. On live. But in this case, we always used the MC-909 as a Midi Master, to make sure, the mute buttons are working :) plus much more intuitive to work together with the DJ-s. Turntable fader on the right.....
hi I beg your pardon what is the name of this software you use? thank you
William Iacobucci MC editor :)))
Morphed silk hi-string thing
Or tubular squarewave C2
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Hi
I'm having a bit of an issue with my 909 any help greatly appreciated.
I'm going 2 do a factory reset, change memory Simms and give internal a clean...as maintenance...but before any of that I'm seeking knowledge...
The issue is when I start sampling whether from an internal source or resampling...a soon as the sample records as it reaches sample length limit..the machine just switches off and reboots!!
Have u every come across this or know what could be causing it??
Thanks
You have the latest Firmware version?
But I think is the DIMM... You can plug in a 256Mb max... for 4 Dollar :)
Thank you sir
@@BMRStudio Do you know the procedure for entering diagnostic mode at boot up??Thankyou
@@BMRStudio Hi.Do you know the procedure for entering the diagnostic screen on the 909?
Thank you!
@@wynstone7283 Hold down the [SHIFT] button and press the [F5] button.
The System screen will appear, and then press F6 :)
Great Video
Just let me finish the new studio mixer setup. Then the new part is coming!
22.00min in...sounds Fukn Dope !! Killa Gorilla.
The whole thing gy is Dope as Roland made it. Back in days, we just dreamed about it. Now, it's a modern classic relic! Get one until too late!
Roland wallpaper on your computer. Whatever!!! Hope you are well man. Miss the mc-909 videos
What is the best OS for editor?
Windblowjob :)
@@BMRStudio So it is tricky in any windows version?
please make pads! great video!!!
I can not for the life of me find an OSX version of this editor... anyone ??
Roland never did for the MC 909....
But, if you are using a Oracle Virtual machine, with Windows 7 32 bit, and You dedicate a USB port with a 20 dollar Midi interface, then voila :)
Good luck!
download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.2.18/VirtualBox-5.2.18-124319-OSX.dmg
www.dontcrack.com/freeware/downloads.php/id/1413/software/MC-909-editor/
Boha ta anglictina....cech,nebo polak???
Som len maďarský idiot :)
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Isidoro Maich I just said today to my friends, where is Isidoro?
Here he is! Greetings!
hehe I'm always here... on the other side hehe
cool work bro, keep it cool, I love your videos with the old gear
Isidoro, when will you come to Berlin? :)
Pauls Audiolabor I will pay the ticket!
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Sorry 😁for My English
@@BMRStudio L'option youtube