Rachel *Summers* / Grey is my favorite. She had an awesome dark red skintight suit with cool spikes. She was great, but the Big Wigs at Marvel suck and don't know what to do with her, so now she has a cape and they threw her onto one of the many X-teams that no one can keep track of anymore. 8-P
Rachel was a host for the Phoenix in the in the 1980’s with X-Men and the 90’s with the original run of Excalibur. Rachel was the longest held host and never went dark, she is said to be the one true host.
Dude I totally agree with you. This dude didn't do his homework @ all. This was pure laziness to not do the research. He basically did what Marvel had done to Rachel which is over looked her and her potential. She is one of my favorite x-men characters, but definitely my favorite Phoenix.
Rachel Summers DID BECOME THE PHOENIX! Check out Excalibur back in the day.....and do your research from now on. To miss Phoenix 2 is a serious misstep.
Just read the Excalibur series before saying that Rachel Summers not use the Phoenix Force fully. And if Jean Grey is The True Phoenix, mine is Rachel because it's her daughter. The Jean Grey that was her mother was in fact the Phoenix.
Phoenix story CANNOT be done in one movie.....they need to do this in a duology or trilogy....first eshtablish jean grey and scott summers romance and then in 2nd movie they need to eshtablish phoenix first...how she can be force for good and how powerful it makes jean grey feel......then slowly begin her abusing that power....and 3rd movie should be the one where dark phoenix is released and she is the main villain....first two movies should not be about phoenix but about other villains whom no one can defeat until jean grey does ...then her rise to villainy will feel earned and so satisfying
Best Phoenix Jean Grey.............favorite Phoenix Storm the infinite power storm already possesses plus the Phoenix force ....devastatingly beautiful
Rachael and Jean are the only relevant ones. Kind of wish they didn't retcon the end of "Phoenix: Endsong" as Jean and the Phoenix finally reached a perfect union.
The Phoenix Force and the Dark Phoenix Saga are classics in comics. I totally expect Fox to crash the plane on this one. I like Fassbender and McAvoy, but I feel like X-Men: Apocalypse is a prime example of Fox not understanding or using the characters correctly
Well, current Marvel writers did not know what to do with the X-Men other than eliminate them in favor of Inhumans, so Fox was like we will do what we want to not get sued or loose our rights. Credit to Fox on the Gifted and Legion the movies have been good starting at First Class until they had no idea how to establish the foe that Apocalypse is, they needed several movies to set him up just as Thanos was established and the series Shadow King in Legion. I think that's why they paused on Sinister way to complex for one feature, Phoenix has a footing maybe a story if its the comic version and not the X-Men last Stand where Phoenix is the extent of Jean's power.
Quentin did host the Phoenix in the female Thor run, but Quentin lost the Phoenix, and whatever Phoenix powers he had left, he used it to devamp jubilee in the latest generation x run.
i liked the phoenix court that jean grey joined at one point, it was the gathering of the various phoenix hosts from different realities. Definitely an under used concept considering the phoenix is a multiversal entity.
Hope and Rachel Summers are my favorites. But, I love Rachel Summers and always have. Though I do still have to give homage to the best Dark Phoenix, Jean Grey.
I'm a fan of the original Jean Grey Phoenix, mainly because I was introduced to the character and concept through X-MEN the animated series during the 90's.
Well it IS loyal to Jean Grey. I mean it returned to Earth just to revive her and gave her a perfect town to live in with everyone who had ever died in her life returned from the dead just to be with her. Not to mention that it’s bonded with her multiple times. If that’s not loyalty I don’t know what is.
No they weren't, they'd essentially conquered the planet. They'd stripped all nations of their weapons and forced world peace. They were tyrants who were doomed to becoming unstable as none were the Phoenix's chosen host. Just because you want to turn the world into a Utopia doesn't give you the right to conquer it, even Doom intends to make the world a Utopia if he ever takes over, but he was still a villain. Good intentions doesn't give them the right to conquer.
@@williamparcell9197 forced world peace you mean unlike the governments off to day demanding the people obey making up rules with out consulting us telling us they know better so get used to it threatening us forcing us to bow telling us where to go what to do when we can do this or that telling us when we can drink something when we can have sex or when we can say something attacking us for no reason murder but saying they are allowed to do it taking owe kids away for no reason saying how we can raise them forcing us in to work we don't want instead off helping us get work we do stock piling nuclear weapons making nearly everything so bloody expensive and making loads off people kids as young as 5 even homeless and in poverty living under bridges ya The Phoenix 5 are way worse......NOT.
William Parcell: So the right thing to do is to provoke the entities who can destroy the planet without even trying? (Even if you argue so against the Five, which you’d be wrong because they didn’t force anything, only offered peace. They only prohibited the use of weapons and violence against mutants) The Avengers handled it horribly because the Phoenix doesn’t become unstable unless met with dark thoughts (aka being provoked or giving tastes dark desire)
in my book there is only 2 that matter Jean and her daughter Rachel everything else including the phoenix five and hope summers was really unecessary imo.....and the phoenix has been passed around way to much.
Phoenix-Spider: Nice Thought, but not necessarily. As good as Spidey is, he isn’t a psychic and he is still human with a dark side (as the symbiote has shown). Dark Phoenix Spidey would be an inevitability.
You've obviously didn't do your research. Rachel Grey/Summers was the longest host to the Phoenix Force and NEVER went dark. She controlled the Phoenix way better than anybody. The Phoenix even seemed to have greater affection for her than anyone else. Check out Excalibur in the 90's and you'll see Rachel in all her glory as the Phoenix. She is the one true host.
Hope Summers is definitely my favourite Phoenix host. I actually got fully into X-men comics by following her story, And I feel like marvel has kind of forgotten about her in recent years, which makes me very sad.
Hope wasn't really the Phoenix but for 5 minutes. Read the Phoenix Saga then read X-Men when Rachel Summers became Phoenix2 then read the first Excalibur team and decide. Ijs
Old man Phoenix (Wolverine) is sorta/sorta not a what if story because it is running in the Might Thor comic at the moment which at parts follows King Thor and his Granddaughters, which thanks to Jason Arron is basically canon and since he appears in that book, he is pretty much canon as well however it sort of is a what if because it is a possible future just like Mayday's universe before one more day
Jean will always be my Phoenix. As far as the trailer, maybe they finally figured out not to put so much action in the trailer that it spoils the movie. Who knows?
@@fishnewt1331 if it dies, everything in Marvel dies with it. It is the force of creation/life. No Phoenix Force = no life in the omniverse, even the planets and stars r alive and that's what the universe is made of.
Wait its origins are in Life and Passion but it's mostly associated with Betrayal and Mass killings/ Deaths? Lol I never knew that about its origins and I never liked the idea of it either. Idk if I'm seeing this one.
Hope is your favorite? She was White Phoenix for 5 minutes. Jean is Iconic and Rachel Summers(Grey) was Phoenix for years and......Hope is your favorite? You've been reading comics for maybe.....5 or 10 years right? Lmao. GOOD VIDEO, THOUGH!
Jean will always be the number 1 host for me and for Phoenix itself....even though in the recent comics, she seemingly did away with it for good...."now and forever" Jean. She will be host to it again, hopefully in the future it sticks.
Nice hots list but u explained the Phoenix Force in a really bad way. First of all it is not a creature but a Force of nature. It is the Force of creation/life/the big bang and the afterlife, it is also the nexus of all psionic energies that ever was, is and will be and the gaurdian of creation/ the doctor of the multiverse. It also represents evolution U make it sound like there r two Phoenix Force, like when u said the Phoenix-5 absorbed the Phoenix Force but the Dark Phoenix corrupted them. They didnt absorb it, the Force split Into five so There was no choice cos they just hsppened to be there. And the Phoenix does not corrup, thats not what it embodies, it is a Force. Its the power that does. No mortal nor immortal can comprehend such power and it drives them insane, becoming unstable. Marvel use the Phoenix Force as a power boost or to make characters look cooler or villains. It represents all that is and its chosen vessels should be doing the Phoenix work like healing realities, erasing them, creating them and gaurding. But instead, its the other way around. No wonder y most People think the Phoenix Force is just an omega level character, and making the Phoenix Force hv emotions like what it had with Odin, thats just insane. How can u make out with creation? It doesnt hv a feeling or choices, it is does what it stands for.
Thank you!! He said Rachel wasn't a real vessel of the Phoenix. He didn't do his research but is only going by the current "Rachel Grey" story arc. As Rachel Summers she was Phoenix for years. Ijs
Serena Viserion: Considering Jean is fully merged to the Phoenix as White Phoenix, she can’t technically die. As of current events, it’s still possible White Phoenix exists since the White Hot Room resides outside of all realities as a dimension of its own.
Magik was the best Phenix. She created a personal Hell to use as a prison during X-Men vs Avengers. She even created These whale/scorpion creatures that dwelled there, they were awesome and stupid all at the same time.
here is how the Quentin Quire continuity runs post secret wars (we don't know where he was during Inhumans VS Xmen or during Secret empire) X men Prime : Quentin showed up at the softball game, Generation X : Quentin hunted down M-plate and then left to hang out with Krakoa, Mighty thor 19: Quentin gets a Phoenix shard, Generation X : Quentin spends whole of Phoenix shard to Simultaneously resurrect Jubilee and give her back her mutant powers this supposedly weakens him, Old man Logan: A weakened Quentin is shown cleaning, Iceman: A weakened Quentin is trapped in the danger room, Astonishing Xmen : Quentin has telepathy again and is drafted into the fight with shadow king at the very end of the first story arc. Jean Grey: Quentin has enough power to fly and SHOOT JEAN IN THE HEAD TWICE! Xmen wedding special : Quentin is at the rehearsal dinner, West Coast Avengers 2 : Quentin makes out with Gwenpool and its awesome!
It be nice see origin story of phoenix in detail and all host that there ever was, It would make for great one shot comic or mini series. Great video buddy.
the new Phoenix movie looks like X-Men last stand sadly sadly fox couldn't give the X-Men a good send off before marvel starts making good X-Men movies
In the new Generation X, Quentin gave his piece of the Phoneix to Jubilee cause she was still a vamyat the time. That results in Jubilee returning to her original mutant powered self with her original power set.
Actually, the answer is yes and no. No, there is one Phoenix in the entirety of the multiverse, but yes in that it has pieces in each universe. So technically, there is only one Phoenix, but it’s split amongst the multiverse that you could also say there are many Phoenix.
In regards to Quentin: During Jean Grey Vol 1 (Issue #2 I think) it goes into the after effects of Quentin having the Phoenix Force, even for a brief amount of time. (FYI it's an awesome series that, if you have the time, you should do Complete Story for!)
I had it once.......made some mad cosmic smores with it......it left me soon after and I've been craving some dem smores again so I might just go looking for it again.
So what was the Phoenix Force doing after Secret Wars 2015? I mean it didn’t come back until the Jane Foster Thor Saga. I know that once it came back it wanted to kill the Young Jean Grey to bring back OG Jean Grey which it succeeded in doing but what was it doing before then?
The ending would be that after the Phoenix is contained or defeated and they all gather at the mansion but then out of nowhere Antman finally gets out of the quantum realm and shows up right in front of them. Haha
Quentin Quire used his Phoenix Shard to resurrect Jubilee in Generation X #86 (2018) after her vampire / mutant depowered self (By Scarlett Witch) was thrown out of a X-Mansion window into direct sunlight by M-Plate after ripping off her daylight protection amulet, causing Jubilee to burn to dust. Once resurrected by Quentin's piece of the phoenix force Jubilee is no longer a vampire, once again a mutant with her powers intact.
And Scott Summers, oddly enough, and by extension, Emma Frost. Emma has a hand in creating Dark Phoenix, has been Jeans rival, and has been a host herself.
i think the Phoenix Saga movie should be the last with these actors, let it end with Jean pulling a Scarlet Witch and say "No More Mutants" completely ending these XMen, which would allow Disney to sculpt their own versions
The stepford cuckoos were not clones....they were Emma Frosts eggs that were harvested and raised in tubes....please get your information correct (thanks)
Benny since Fox and Disney are BFF now and the X-men are about to be back with the MCU can you please start doing more X-men stories. The recent one have honestly been great in my opinion and there’s been a lot going on with them that I wish you would cover and give your opinion on. I adore your channel so pretty please!!!!
Quinten kept a fragment of the Phoenix, but gave it up to return Jubilee to life from vampirism and restore her mutant abilities. It was in the Generation X comics
Rachel *Summers* / Grey is my favorite. She had an awesome dark red skintight suit with cool spikes. She was great, but the Big Wigs at Marvel suck and don't know what to do with her, so now she has a cape and they threw her onto one of the many X-teams that no one can keep track of anymore. 8-P
Rachel was a host for the Phoenix in the in the 1980’s with X-Men and the 90’s with the original run of Excalibur. Rachel was the longest held host and never went dark, she is said to be the one true host.
Dude I totally agree with you. This dude didn't do his homework @ all. This was pure laziness to not do the research. He basically did what Marvel had done to Rachel which is over looked her and her potential. She is one of my favorite x-men characters, but definitely my favorite Phoenix.
Rachel Summers DID BECOME THE PHOENIX! Check out Excalibur back in the day.....and do your research from now on. To miss Phoenix 2 is a serious misstep.
Correction. Rachel was the longest host of the phoenix. Even longer than jean
Absolutely this. Kinda tired of Rachel getting overlooked on this point
"The Phoenix Force has a thing for redheads"
Same bruh
Just read the Excalibur series before saying that Rachel Summers not use the Phoenix Force fully.
And if Jean Grey is The True Phoenix, mine is Rachel because it's her daughter. The Jean Grey that was her mother was in fact the Phoenix.
Phoenix story CANNOT be done in one movie.....they need to do this in a duology or trilogy....first eshtablish jean grey and scott summers romance and then in 2nd movie they need to eshtablish phoenix first...how she can be force for good and how powerful it makes jean grey feel......then slowly begin her abusing that power....and 3rd movie should be the one where dark phoenix is released and she is the main villain....first two movies should not be about phoenix but about other villains whom no one can defeat until jean grey does ...then her rise to villainy will feel earned and so satisfying
Jean Grey hands down best phoenix imo
GundamBarbatos9 Veterans no you are the best Phoenix
Rachel was good too
Magik is better
@@aumonsonprasit Magik by herself is cool Jean with the phoenix is awesome
@Ali Art She is the most powerful one tho
Best Phoenix Jean Grey.............favorite Phoenix Storm the infinite power storm already possesses plus the Phoenix force ....devastatingly beautiful
Rachael and Jean are the only relevant ones. Kind of wish they didn't retcon the end of "Phoenix: Endsong" as Jean and the Phoenix finally reached a perfect union.
The Phoenix Force and the Dark Phoenix Saga are classics in comics. I totally expect Fox to crash the plane on this one. I like Fassbender and McAvoy, but I feel like X-Men: Apocalypse is a prime example of Fox not understanding or using the characters correctly
Also Last Stand and Origins.
Hell throw the MCU away if thats the case.
I would only watch it for Fassbender and McAvoy. JLaw doesn't seem to care and the new cast is pretty meh.
mcu knows its characters. xmen movies arent even consistent in personality or powers. until mcu gets phoenix we wont see a good take on it.
Well, current Marvel writers did not know what to do with the X-Men other than eliminate them in favor of Inhumans, so Fox was like we will do what we want to not get sued or loose our rights. Credit to Fox on the Gifted and Legion the movies have been good starting at First Class until they had no idea how to establish the foe that Apocalypse is, they needed several movies to set him up just as Thanos was established and the series Shadow King in Legion.
I think that's why they paused on Sinister way to complex for one feature, Phoenix has a footing maybe a story if its the comic version and not the X-Men last Stand where Phoenix is the extent of Jean's power.
Quentin did host the Phoenix in the female Thor run, but Quentin lost the Phoenix, and whatever Phoenix powers he had left, he used it to devamp jubilee in the latest generation x run.
I think it was not the complete Phoenix but only a shard if I am not mistaken.
it was only a shard but it still counts as him being a phoenix host according to jean grey
i liked the phoenix court that jean grey joined at one point, it was the gathering of the various phoenix hosts from different realities. Definitely an under used concept considering the phoenix is a multiversal entity.
Yeah. I loved that one where she was declared as the White Phoenix of the Crown in Grant Morrison's last X-Men arc, Here Comes Tomorrow.
Thane was a host of the Phoenix for a while in the Thanos solo-series
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Hope and Rachel Summers are my favorites. But, I love Rachel Summers and always have. Though I do still have to give homage to the best Dark Phoenix, Jean Grey.
Yeah im a big Rachel fan as well
@@bevaineshaw4555 Hope was important and had meaning post House of M. But, Rachel. She is still on of my favorite X-men characters ever.
I'm a fan of the original Jean Grey Phoenix, mainly because I was introduced to the character and concept through X-MEN the animated series during the 90's.
Wow the phoienx force aint loyal
Ikr Lols
it a THOT
@@khaipham3214 no it's a queen
Well it IS loyal to Jean Grey. I mean it returned to Earth just to revive her and gave her a perfect town to live in with everyone who had ever died in her life returned from the dead just to be with her. Not to mention that it’s bonded with her multiple times. If that’s not loyalty I don’t know what is.
Corny
To be fair... the Phoenix Five were doing fine until the Avengers began an assault against them
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No they weren't, they'd essentially conquered the planet. They'd stripped all nations of their weapons and forced world peace. They were tyrants who were doomed to becoming unstable as none were the Phoenix's chosen host. Just because you want to turn the world into a Utopia doesn't give you the right to conquer it, even Doom intends to make the world a Utopia if he ever takes over, but he was still a villain. Good intentions doesn't give them the right to conquer.
@@williamparcell9197 forced world peace you mean unlike the governments off to day demanding the people obey making up rules with out consulting us telling us they know better so get used to it threatening us forcing us to bow telling us where to go what to do when we can do this or that telling us when we can drink something when we can have sex or when we can say something attacking us for no reason murder but saying they are allowed to do it taking owe kids away for no reason saying how we can raise them forcing us in to work we don't want instead off helping us get work we do stock piling nuclear weapons making nearly everything so bloody expensive and making loads off people kids as young as 5 even homeless and in poverty living under bridges ya The Phoenix 5 are way worse......NOT.
William Parcell: So the right thing to do is to provoke the entities who can destroy the planet without even trying? (Even if you argue so against the Five, which you’d be wrong because they didn’t force anything, only offered peace. They only prohibited the use of weapons and violence against mutants) The Avengers handled it horribly because the Phoenix doesn’t become unstable unless met with dark thoughts (aka being provoked or giving tastes dark desire)
learn to use fucking punctuation next time you want to argue you fucking illiterate dog
in my book there is only 2 that matter Jean and her daughter Rachel everything else including the phoenix five and hope summers was really unecessary imo.....and the phoenix has been passed around way to much.
Spider-Man would make good Phoenix wielder. I think he wouldn’t be corrupted since his strong will and moral compass.
Phoenix-Spider: Nice Thought, but not necessarily. As good as Spidey is, he isn’t a psychic and he is still human with a dark side (as the symbiote has shown). Dark Phoenix Spidey would be an inevitability.
Fish Newt i would love to see a what if where captain universe spidey vs a phoenix spidey
I was going to mention Captain Universe haha.
I wonder what happens if captain universe holds the phoenix force to countain it.
Venom would have a word with you
Fish Newt depends on what point of his life he also wielded cosmic power
Phoenix Storm ❤😍
You've obviously didn't do your research. Rachel Grey/Summers was the longest host to the Phoenix Force and NEVER went dark. She controlled the Phoenix way better than anybody. The Phoenix even seemed to have greater affection for her than anyone else. Check out Excalibur in the 90's and you'll see Rachel in all her glory as the Phoenix. She is the one true host.
Jean is the Phoenix's favorite host, but Rachel is the strongest
Hope Summers is definitely my favourite Phoenix host. I actually got fully into X-men comics by following her story, And I feel like marvel has kind of forgotten about her in recent years, which makes me very sad.
Marnette Ryes yeah the last time I saw her was in xforce
I really liked her we need her to come back
Hope wasn't really the Phoenix but for 5 minutes. Read the Phoenix Saga then read X-Men when Rachel Summers became Phoenix2 then read the first Excalibur team and decide. Ijs
sammie young - I have read those stories, and Hope is still my favourite
The trailer is too similar to X-Men: The Last Stand and why is Storm using an umbrella?
Bryan Pettigrew That isn't the first time she used one so why people are complaining now?
that character isn't Storm. It's the one in the very next scene, taking a seat in what looks like a church.
why would'nt she use an umbrella? if becoz of her power, then Charles should never ask people. Jean should not even walk.
Old man Phoenix (Wolverine) is sorta/sorta not a what if story because it is running in the Might Thor comic at the moment which at parts follows King Thor and his Granddaughters, which thanks to Jason Arron is basically canon and since he appears in that book, he is pretty much canon as well however it sort of is a what if because it is a possible future just like Mayday's universe before one more day
Jean will always be my Phoenix.
As far as the trailer, maybe they finally figured out not to put so much action in the trailer that it spoils the movie. Who knows?
My favorite was hope summers
Uhh I thought Tony Stark used the Phoenix buster to try and kill the Phoenix, but instead it spilt into five entities that those five took on.
Neo Prime Tony did.
You are correct sir.
Neo Prime correct and the Phoenix die, all that is die with it
Serena Viserion: Are you saying that it died? Or are you saying ‘if’ it dies, everything else dies?
@@fishnewt1331 if it dies, everything in Marvel dies with it. It is the force of creation/life. No Phoenix Force = no life in the omniverse, even the planets and stars r alive and that's what the universe is made of.
This order of the Phoenix is just a discount Buster sword
Wait its origins are in Life and Passion but it's mostly associated with Betrayal and Mass killings/ Deaths? Lol I never knew that about its origins and I never liked the idea of it either. Idk if I'm seeing this one.
Its the force of life and the passion of creation(Normal or Green Phoenix), represents death, power, and destruction(Dark Phoenix)
Hope is your favorite? She was White Phoenix for 5 minutes. Jean is Iconic and Rachel Summers(Grey) was Phoenix for years and......Hope is your favorite? You've been reading comics for maybe.....5 or 10 years right? Lmao. GOOD VIDEO, THOUGH!
Jean will always be the number 1 host for me and for Phoenix itself....even though in the recent comics, she seemingly did away with it for good...."now and forever" Jean. She will be host to it again, hopefully in the future it sticks.
Jean & Rachael Grey
Nice hots list but u explained the Phoenix Force in a really bad way. First of all it is not a creature but a Force of nature. It is the Force of creation/life/the big bang and the afterlife, it is also the nexus of all psionic energies that ever was, is and will be and the gaurdian of creation/ the doctor of the multiverse. It also represents evolution
U make it sound like there r two Phoenix Force, like when u said the Phoenix-5 absorbed the Phoenix Force but the Dark Phoenix corrupted them. They didnt absorb it, the Force split Into five so There was no choice cos they just hsppened to be there. And the Phoenix does not corrup, thats not what it embodies, it is a Force. Its the power that does. No mortal nor immortal can comprehend such power and it drives them insane, becoming unstable.
Marvel use the Phoenix Force as a power boost or to make characters look cooler or villains. It represents all that is and its chosen vessels should be doing the Phoenix work like healing realities, erasing them, creating them and gaurding. But instead, its the other way around.
No wonder y most People think the Phoenix Force is just an omega level character, and making the Phoenix Force hv emotions like what it had with Odin, thats just insane. How can u make out with creation? It doesnt hv a feeling or choices, it is does what it stands for.
I feel like the trailer is just a retelling of X3. But in a way, it has to be, because it's an alternate timeline and not universe.
Finally another one of these I love the videos especially this one as I only knew 8 holders of the Phoenix. You forgot thanos’s son
Benny doing X-men related stories this is very rare treat.
You missed the fact that Emma Frost had been the Phoenix before AvX during Endsong.
My favorite has always been Rachel.
Thank you!! He said Rachel wasn't a real vessel of the Phoenix. He didn't do his research but is only going by the current "Rachel Grey" story arc. As Rachel Summers she was Phoenix for years. Ijs
My favorite Phoenix Force host is definitely OG Jean Grey.
Old Man Phoniex Is dukking it out with Odin Man Thor right now.
JEAN GREY is the PHOENIX period!!!!
Not any more
I'm happy Hope Summers basically faded from existence. She was an awful character who was basically a plot device.
Wait, jean won't be the last? How about in the end of time when there are nothing else left, wouldn't jean be the white crown of the phoenix again?
A2: Technically, yes, since all Phoenix go to the White Hot Room, but she won’t be the only one in an editorial and story sense.
@@fishnewt1331 thanks thats what i was thinking
A2 is WPOTC even alive? It is one with creation so Shouldnt it be the creation Force?
Serena Viserion: Considering Jean is fully merged to the Phoenix as White Phoenix, she can’t technically die. As of current events, it’s still possible White Phoenix exists since the White Hot Room resides outside of all realities as a dimension of its own.
@@fishnewt1331 my point exactly. To understand WPOTC one needs to understand creation and all that comes from it.
Quinton Quire did have a bit of the phoenix force, he gave it up to save Jubilee from dying making her a mutant again
Magik was the best Phenix. She created a personal Hell to use as a prison during X-Men vs Avengers. She even created These whale/scorpion creatures that dwelled there, they were awesome and stupid all at the same time.
Jean Grey is the best hands down
Knull, the Chaos King, and the Phoneix Force all appeared at the dawn of the Universe.
Jeans my fav. As far as the trailer? Yeeeeah.... Looks like xmen: last stand 2.0 to me. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
The Dark Phoenix saga is one of my favorite stories in comics. I hope they do it justice. I did a video about it on my own page a couple days back.
here is how the Quentin Quire continuity runs post secret wars
(we don't know where he was during Inhumans VS Xmen or during Secret empire)
X men Prime : Quentin showed up at the softball game,
Generation X : Quentin hunted down M-plate and then left to hang out with Krakoa,
Mighty thor 19: Quentin gets a Phoenix shard,
Generation X : Quentin spends whole of Phoenix shard to Simultaneously resurrect Jubilee and give her back her mutant powers this supposedly weakens him,
Old man Logan: A weakened Quentin is shown cleaning,
Iceman: A weakened Quentin is trapped in the danger room,
Astonishing Xmen : Quentin has telepathy again and is drafted into the fight with shadow king at the very end of the first story arc.
Jean Grey: Quentin has enough power to fly and SHOOT JEAN IN THE HEAD TWICE!
Xmen wedding special : Quentin is at the rehearsal dinner,
West Coast Avengers 2 : Quentin makes out with Gwenpool and its awesome!
It be nice see origin story of phoenix in detail and all host that there ever was, It would make for great one shot comic or mini series. Great video buddy.
the new Phoenix movie looks like X-Men last stand sadly sadly fox couldn't give the X-Men a good send off before marvel starts making good X-Men movies
Here how fox men new trilogy should have been
First class
Onslaught
Dofp
Tony Stark split the Phoenix Force into the Phoenix Five...
For me. Jean Grey is the definitive host of the Phoenix. She is the beginning and the end.
In the new Generation X, Quentin gave his piece of the Phoneix to Jubilee cause she was still a vamyat the time. That results in Jubilee returning to her original mutant powered self with her original power set.
What if theres more pheonix force like SYMBIOTES WHAT IF THEY CAN BREED REEEEEEEEEEEE
yes, phoenix is the eldest, and then there's the peacock, the rooster the ostrich and the em. that was essentially the phoenix five XD
Marios Gregoriou oh my god
Actually, the answer is yes and no. No, there is one Phoenix in the entirety of the multiverse, but yes in that it has pieces in each universe. So technically, there is only one Phoenix, but it’s split amongst the multiverse that you could also say there are many Phoenix.
In regards to Quentin: During Jean Grey Vol 1 (Issue #2 I think) it goes into the after effects of Quentin having the Phoenix Force, even for a brief amount of time. (FYI it's an awesome series that, if you have the time, you should do Complete Story for!)
At 5:20 - 5:22 turn on captions its very funny
I had it once.......made some mad cosmic smores with it......it left me soon after and I've been craving some dem smores again so I might just go looking for it again.
I remember this list but i found more hosts than i thought i would.
Phoenix 5 are my fav.
3:20
Oppa sign
hope will always be the true phoenix imo
Thank you so much. This really helped.
Great Video, I do recall two others who had a connection to the Phoenix Force: Feron and Necrom from the first volume Excalibur series
Racheal Summers
You were expecting to be possessed by the Phoenix, but it was me DIO!!!
The Phoenix and I share much in common.......we choose sexy red heads!!
I'm sorry but the What If where Wolverine gets shot with the Phoenix in a bullet was awesome
Loved the slow death comment! Keep up the amazing work!
Is the phoenix force more powerful than the infinity gauntlet?
Yup by a long shot its multiverse or omniverse while the gaulet is only universal
So what was the Phoenix Force doing after Secret Wars 2015? I mean it didn’t come back until the Jane Foster Thor Saga. I know that once it came back it wanted to kill the Young Jean Grey to bring back OG Jean Grey which it succeeded in doing but what was it doing before then?
I liked the trailer, I'm glad there gonna continue that X-Men universe or at least conclude it
The ending would be that after the Phoenix is contained or defeated and they all gather at the mansion but then out of nowhere Antman finally gets out of the quantum realm and shows up right in front of them. Haha
Quentin Quire used his Phoenix Shard to resurrect Jubilee in Generation X #86 (2018) after her vampire / mutant depowered self (By Scarlett Witch) was thrown out of a X-Mansion window into direct sunlight by M-Plate after ripping off her daylight protection amulet, causing Jubilee to burn to dust.
Once resurrected by Quentin's piece of the phoenix force Jubilee is no longer a vampire, once again a mutant with her powers intact.
3 words Benny no more mutants
Jean grey best host!!!
Do some of these classes stories please
I have a comic where Spider-Man possessed the Phoenix force. Thought that would’ve got a mention
Phoenix Wolverine, holy shit.
Amazing video
And of all of them only Jean Grey and her daughter Rachel are only ones that are important. Everyone else is just meh.
LUISPRIME nope
Hope too even more than Rachel...she is the mutant Messiah
And Scott Summers, oddly enough, and by extension, Emma Frost. Emma has a hand in creating Dark Phoenix, has been Jeans rival, and has been a host herself.
and emma did it twice
@@Kalim4321 hope is just a second try at Rachel Summers, I wish they had just revamped Rachel.
@@Kalim4321 she was important from house of m till avx after that not so much is she isn't truly part of the summers/grey line either she is adopted
It would be cool if a random character can become the host of the Spirit of Vengance, the venom symbiote, and the Pheonix force all at once!
I once was a immortal phoneix but I turned into a immortal butterfly
hope shes the only one that used it for good and shes just a cool character also your channel is cool
i think the Phoenix Saga movie should be the last with these actors, let it end with Jean pulling a Scarlet Witch and say "No More Mutants" completely ending these XMen, which would allow Disney to sculpt their own versions
The stepford cuckoos were not clones....they were Emma Frosts eggs that were harvested and raised in tubes....please get your information correct (thanks)
hope summers best host lol.....if it ain't Jean or Rachel Grey it don't matter.....
I wish we could get more venom I really wanna see how knull gets involve and the new venom
I got the chance to meet Chris Claremont. He's a nice guy.
Benny since Fox and Disney are BFF now and the X-men are about to be back with the MCU can you please start doing more X-men stories. The recent one have honestly been great in my opinion and there’s been a lot going on with them that I wish you would cover and give your opinion on. I adore your channel so pretty please!!!!
You forgot about Thane son of Thanos, he has wielded the Phoenix
Quinten kept a fragment of the Phoenix, but gave it up to return Jubilee to life from vampirism and restore her mutant abilities. It was in the Generation X comics
What's your thoughts on Heroes in crisis #1 and will you cover it?
Top three: Hope, Jean, then Iron Fist.
There was an issue of Spider-Man who had the Phoenix force however it was an illusion set by arcade.
Marvel should do something with Hope, other than extermination
Jean grey the host that best related to the phoenix force.
My favorite Phoenix host is colossus