David Gilmour - Fuzz or Big Muff - Can you hear it?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ส.ค. 2024
- David Gilmour - Fuzz or Big Muff ??? That's the Question in this Video!
I played 2 famous Solos from Pink Floyd ( Time & Money ) and switched between those 2 Effects - can you tell what is what? The solution is in the 2nd Part!!!
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Timecodes:
0:00 TIME
0:07 Pedal A
0:28 Pedal B
0:42 Pedal A
0:58 Pedal B
1:12 Pedal A
1:26 Pedal B
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Who had both Solos right? What was your favorite? 😎🤘
Both right! ;-). The fuzz is way more unpredictable and raw. Not as compressed.
Congrats😁 agree completely with that!
@@MartinFrydas I still do prefer his rams head and sovtek muff tones tbh. Still great sound. As I recall, only Time and Echoes contain those raw fuzz solos. The rest of it was the muff.
I lovecthe rams head! The BC109 Fuzz was on every song from 1968-1972 (also Money, etc)
I had it right in both. They both sound good but my favorite is the fuzz face.
I don't care what pedals, because I enjoy the solos very much
😉 thank you very much 🙏🤘
The fuzz face has a more vintage sound to my ears. Amazing solos thanks for sharing!
It was more subtle than expected, but the pick-attack gave it away. You usually just don't hear a strat's "twang" through a Big Muff, so when you switched to Pedal B in the Time solo and I could hear a bit of that "twang" shine through, I immediately knew what I was listening to.
That muff it just is so unique, that crunchy bite is just 🤤🤤🤤 I finding it seemingly impossible to re-create
It's a more complicated multistage circuit. The sound comes more from the design and filtering etc etc. The fuzz face is very simple but has a unique behaviour and relies on the transistors and their biasing. Most faces can be trimmed to sound "good" with different trannies but rarely they sound the "same". Muffs are easier to sound "same" with different transistors and the right tweaks.
The fuzz face has more shrill and spitty treble. I recognized the muff already in the slide down the E-string. So fluid and still so broken, muff is in a league of its own.
It's hard to beat the smooth, singing violin-like sustain when used on single-note lines of the EH Big Muff Pi
They both sound the same
@@bluwng Not to me; they sound similar; but, not identical.
@@bluwng Put on some good headphones. The Fuzzface has an edge to it while the Big Muff more or less "sings".
I didn't expect any difference. To my surprise, I preferred the Big Muff by a large margin.
@@bluwng nah...the fuzz face has more treble, sounds harsher. The Big Muff has significantly more bottom, less mids and less treble...and for that, sounds smoother. The issue with the big muff is, it's difficult to get it to cut through the mix in a live setting. I have one on my board, but consistently have difficulty ever hearing it with another guitarist, bassist, and drummer.
I'm liking the big muff. Great playing ,thank you for the no nonsense demonstration
omg! finally I found a channel with a proper demo on both pedals. Thanks.
Great vid! I got both correct, the giveaway for me was the "splattery" attack of the silicon fuzz face
Thank you very much 🙏 exactly what I love about silicon 😎🤘🤘🤘
thats the best way to explain it
yes, and the Muff's smoother sustain on money solo.
Fantastic playing like the way you made it your own
Good job! Cheers from Greece!!!
I'm hearing a pretty subtle difference between what sounds like the upper mid frequenct content; Muff seems to have more saturation (perceived as smoother), while the Fuzz Face seems a bit more sputtery and less smooth. Love both tones.
Separate from which is which (I prefer big muff) you really nailed down the solo perfect. Congratulations.
Hi Martin.
Great playing. I have both and the Muff sounds a bit creamier, but the Fuzz Face in the first part of "Money" is excellent. And I prefer the FF in a band situation. It cuts through more. The Muff can get lost in the mix.
Greetings from Sweden! Keep up your good work! 🙏😀
Yeah. It was pretty easy to tell which one was the Muff in both clips. Great singing sustain, but no mids. Great job getting the fuzz to sound nice. I've been through what....5 different flavors of fuzz face? Can't get any of them to sound worth a damn. Yep. This man loves the Muff.
Nailed it 🙌🏽
excellent , super
Both do the job very well in this demo.
I got it right away. The Fuzz Face sound very much like the recording, great job. It just has that little something extra.
100% The big muff sounds more rounded out and not as tight and peaky. I like the fuzzface more, and I have a BM
Not at all. Not sure how you heard that, but the Big Muff sounded way more like the original and that's because it's actually the same type of circuit he used. The Fuzz Face wasn't far off, but the distinction is clear.
Great video Martin. You inspired to get out the strat and do some more practice. Already trying to learn the solo to Money, now I have to add Time onto the list.
For me, the Big Muff nails the rich tone, that Fuzz Face has a bit too much treble. Oh and it feels like your playing rocks up a level when you use the BM as well. Maybe I'm biassed, the Fuzz Face was the first pedal I ever tried, it was always a bit overpowering and couldn't get a good sound from it but I do have an EH BM from the 70's which just knocks me out every time, no matter what amp or guitar.
Thanks for the settings too !
Very welcome and thanks a lot! Yes, the muff is THE Gilmour sound for sure - but if I only had one pedal it would be the fuzz, cause I can cover so much more ground with it ;) 🤘
Kickass! Thanks !
Appreciate 😁
I love the Fuzz Face but for these solos I really love the 70s vibe of the Muff
Great video!!!!
Thank you 🙏
I love the sputtering crackles of the FF on pick attack.
I watched this when it came out, and ive ended up buying a Phil Robinson Phuzz with the 108 transistors for early Floyd vibes
That was a great comparison, I was surprised at how subtle the differences were. I want to get a pedal to complement my Tonebender, seems like the Fuzz Face would be the appropriate choice, a bit more trebly and sparkly than the Muff. The Muff seems to be closer to the creamy, meaty sound of the tonebender.
Hm, that’s a perfect example for different tastes ;) I’d definitely say a Fuzz is more raw & meaty and the mufff is more polished - heavy mid scooped with a lot of treble... ;)
Get a muff deluxe, get the best of both worlds.
I really like to have different pedals for different sounds 😁
@@MartinFrydas You really just can not have too many pedals.😁 Thanks for the cool comparison, and the great playing. Had to sub.
Sugar & cream 🤘
They should make a combination and call it Fuzzy Muff.
I have both pedals.
Money was easiest to discern! I thought at first A and B were the same on each song .. And so at first I thought on "time" the right thing and then thought on "money" the right thing again and I was puzzled because of this. Didn't think of a swap for both songs.... So self confidence is boosted!
Great playing by the way 👌
I wasn't looking the first time and thought it was a Big Muff for the whole first solo. Then when I watched the A/B switch, the Fuzz Face became obvious because of it's splattery sound. Both sounded fantastic!
Good vibe indeed...I personlly prefer Big M..by the way, what the set up was?
Sounds awesome. But I think the RW board kinda smushes out them ripping “bowed” sounds on the bends like when the time solo does the first penta arpeggio followed by the bend on b string…it “rips” when DG played it. Another example is EJ’s Dover into the first bend he does on the b string sounds like a muscle cars tires “ripping” on the pavement. Best sound ever in terms of dirty sounding bending in songs with astonishing tone.
This , Sir , is one outstanding vid
You helped me make up my mind to purchase a used BM for $42 -- now one month more request - can you help out with the 42🤣
Thanks a lot 😁🙏 and sadly no... as a working musician in a pandemic I’d need 42 too 🙈
Excellent! I've been wrestling with the problem, how do you set up a pedal board if one of your guitars is going to use active pickups like EMGs? Gilmour's Pulse-era Red Strat had these type pickups. These pickups employ a battery, making the guitar practically incompatible with a fuzz-face. Gilmour didn't use a fuzz-face with his EMG equipped red strat! People complain a Muff is too dark to use in a live band. Gilmour addressed that by boosting the Muff with an overdrive pedal that imparts a strong tone control, a trick I surmise boosts the hell out of the treble without blowing up the bass and destroying the arena! Add Delays to this and you get sonic heaven! To my knowledge, the man has never said an actionable word about it to the thousands of guitarists out there.
So would you classify the Big Muff as a Fuzz Pedal, or a Overdrive/Distortion Pedal. And where would you put it on your pedal board, Before Wah Pedal & Tuner where you normally would place a Fuzz Pedal, or after where you would place your Overdrive pedals? Thanks in advance
Both are great
The personality and tone of a strat comes through the Fuzzface more than the Big Muff, to my ears. Big Muffs can sound woofy and a little wooly. There’s a shimmer to the Fuzzface that I think is more elegant. Thanks for making this video!
Big muff emphasizes harmonics, fuzz face emphasizes primary note played. Sharper sound for fuzz face. Warmer and more saturated for muff.
And longer sustain I guess...
I admire anyone who can make a fuzz of any description sound good. I have tried, with big muffs, little muffs, faces and all the usual suspects and it always sounds like a kazoo to me. I like maxed out tubes or tubes and blues driver to get my driven tones.
Maybe you need this one here 😉 the EQ really does A LOT! 🔥🤘
And your here because.....
@@richieknight5423 I'm here because I love David Gilmour's sound, and always enjoy seeing talented musicians play in his style. I am also here because I would love to make a fuzz pedal work for me. Is that enough? Or do you need more officer?
@@MartinFrydas I might have a go at building one.
I’ll record another blind shootout tonight (online tomorrow) with a EHX Rams head Muff, Cornell Fuzz face, UAD Triangle muff plugin & Bias FX muff plugin... playing gilmour style stuff
Great demo. Can you do the same thing with Hendrix?
Great video Dude!
I guessed it right because I have a Big Muff, but I must say both sounds amazing, maybe the fuzz face could get a little closer cause Gilmour recorded these solos with a fuzz face, but Big Muff is so versatile that I still prefer it Lol 👊🎶🎸
Thanks a lot! Yes, I also love both sounds but I prefer the fuzz cause it’s a bit more raw 😎🤘
oh nice! ...can I ask where did you get the backing tracks? tanks
Honestly I hear it most I think in your playing style (I got both right). When you play on the fuzz face I can tell you're putting in an effort to bring out the sustain for the song, with the Big Muff you don't have to try, it just sustains.
spot on.
Wow, so you really can make a Big Muff sound sorta like a Fuzz Face.
Awesome vid , hope you do more of these. The pedal settings would have been good tho.
Thanks a lot - yes, have some ideas for those vids! Fuzz settings were:
Solo A: Vol 75% Gain 100%, Solo B: Vol 75%, Gain 50%. Muff settings: Solo A: Vol 60%, tone 40%, Gain 100%, Solo B Vol 70%, tone 40%, Gain 100% 🤘
Martin Frydas thanks
rickyshoard welcome 😊
Yeah deff settings, perhaps you should show two close up still frames at the end?
@@MartinFrydas was guitar volume on 10? Clean amp?
Damn it! I liked them both. Now I'll have to buy a Fuzz Face... The only question now is: Silicon vs Germanium
Great demo. I had it right. I thought the muff had a slight more thickness in its sound. Keep going.. maybe next time a Queen AC30 pedal A/B test?
Great! Good ears mate! That’s a cool idea- will do that! You mean with different treble booster? or maybe what was played with a pick and what was played with a sixpence coin 😉
Martin Frydas haha or maybe luck. But still in my opinion the muff had some thickness.
Recently i did a little treble booster comparison on my channel.
What i meant: treble booster, into (A/B) Ac30 tone like pedal. For instance Actone by harley benton/joyo vs a tube driver like chandler/butler. Since people use the latter pedal to create a brian may style.
The sixpence vs plectrum is also a possibility. And of course when the time is right, and you know how to upgrade the Harley bentom bm75 wiring. A red special/bm75 comparison
i got them both right but i definitley think they both work for different songs. Like i loved the muff on Time but the Fuzzface fit Money so much better.
I like the fuzz face more for Time but the big muff sounds better on Money.
It's pretty easy, even to my newbie ears. The fuzz has that ripping sound on note attack. Unmistakable.
I love the big muff it’s sounds so good but the fuzz is a close second
Muff was more subtle and smoother. Fuzz more gnarly, loved both. What makes the difference, is in hitting mor upper/ lows, other more mids? I can hear a difference but have no idea what it is?
There are quite some differences. Muff was invented from the fuzz (think Fuzz->Muff->Distortion Pedals). Fuzz uses Transistors, Muffs create the Tone in Diodes. Muff is more compressed and has a big mid-scooped EQ... hope that helped a bit ;)
Martin Frydas that’s amazing, thanks for replying. Loved the video, really great playing.
Very welcome & thank you very much 🙏🤘
I actually find the muff to be the more gnarly and like it's gonna bite my face off with that crunch lol
My approach is: fuzz sounds better to (pre) dark-side albuns. Muffs for post dark side.
Both sound superb but the Big Muff is spot on.
Both of them fuzz face little more 😎
Fabulous review thanx both sound great hard to pick one to be honest ..like the more bite front the fuzz face ..
Thanks a lot! 🙏 same here 😁🤘
Hello from Italy Martin!!
Any difference between Big Muff and Little Big Muff?Does the Little have a good sustain too?Thanks so much.
It’s just minor differences! You’ll definitely get the sound for sure!!!
Tengo un Muff, pero luego del video me parece que el Face suena más definido.
Big Muff is just raw. I have a fuzzface style fuzz on my electric acoustic
What’s your settings on the Big Muff?
I thought there was going to be a big difference! Gonna experiment with the FF because in my hands the Muffs just don't sound right!
Can you tell the position of the Knob for the big muff?
The difference got clear around 4:55, when the bright sound of the Face turned into the thick tone of the PI.
Haha. I like the FF more :)
Sheesh, I am a Muff nut, but I got it wrong !
I am sure I would get it right if you played more chords as the muff really shines with that over FFace.
They sound Extremely similar. Either one works.
Whats the settings on the Big Muff because i nev heard one sound this clear and smooth.
It’s vol at 11 o’clock, tone at 11 and fuzz at 1 😉
Fuzz Face: More open sounding, brighter, raspy
Big muff: Sounds More tight, smoother, less brigter, not to raspy
The " BIG MUFF" is in a class of it's own!
Very good playing and shootout. I preferred B but they both sounded good!
B in the first video 🤓
Thanks a lot! The Fuzz was my fav I both songs. 😎🤘
Preferred the fuzz face in both - more biting and expressive
the fuzz is a little bit dirtier and has slightly more attack. nice video
In my opinion the fuzz was too scratchy and harsh, the muff is much more silky, with nice compression on the attack, and great sustain. I'm gonna go for a EHX Russian green muff on my board next.
The fuzz face has more dirt and high frequency sizzle.
I like the Fuzz Face better. But ... the Big Muff is more like the original Time recording.
Sugar & cream !
The rest is up to the player 🤘
I’ve been trying to get this sound for a long time. I have a strat, with exclusively single coils.
My amps are a blues junior and a AC 10. Both seem to be very pedal friendly amps.
For pedals, I’ve tried
Boss ds1
Full tone ocd.
Ts 9 tube screamer.
Boss super chorus.
I would like to use only 1 pedal, maybe 2 at the most. Would the big muff get me this sound?
Anyone who could chime in, I would appreciate it.
Thank you
The simplest and cheapest solution is two pedals: big muff + delay… $200 used equipment… set you amp clean sound…
@@bobbrown8155 thank you, I’ll give it a shot.
Appreciated.
A first, B second I think :)
You can check in the video if you were right 😎🤘
Through the cellphone speaker, the difference is so subtle that it's negligible. They both sound like Gilmour.
I prefer C: the melodies and D: Your playing. Oh yeah, and sometimes A or B for the tone, depending of C and D.
You should use germanium fuzz face to make easier compare😁
I don’t understand I think 🤔 If ever he used a GE Fuzz super rare... it’s mostly Si Fuzz & Muff as much as I know... 😉🤘
@@MartinFrydas I'm talking not about Gilmour(who used SI version as I remember) but about us 😁 GE Fuzz Face have different voice and difference can be found easily.
Ah, i understand 😉 yes, maybe in another video I’ll do Ge VS Si Fuzzes 🤘
B B B B😊✅
You liked B the most? B was A in the 2nd Video 😊🤘
What would you recommend out of the 2 for an early Radiohead/Nirvana sound?
I’d go muff for that! But that’s just personal taste :)
Boss ds 1 for nirvana
I read Kurt used ds1 on most shit with the exception of lithium which according to his producer was recorded with a big muff through a bassman
@@rxw5520 the big muff was one of the layers on lithium blended in with the ds1
Gotta say i don't hear a real difference to justify having both...i have a deluxe big muff currently and sounds like you can dial in close enough with either of these to make it work (if you're this guy anyway lol)
What other pedals are there in this video to achieve this sound, it can’t just be a fuzz or a muff...?
It’s all BIAS FX2 - their echorec delay sim, their 1176 comp - that’s it! 😎🤘
Thank you for the swift reply! Now I have to TH-cam something else haha
I have some other bias FX2 tone videos on my channel 😎🤘
B is muff?
Pickups??
Fender Handwound Josefina FAT60s 🤘
B=muff?
Great playing! Not hard to figure out which is which, but anyway, sound is not as important than the feel is and you feel very different playing FC or BM. If you feel right, you'll play great, if not, you'll play shit. That's all that matters really, the performance. That's why I don't like all this modelling technology, it sounds the same but feels dead. But that's just me.
That’s a good Point! I was just planning on doing another one cause now I got the new EHX Rams Head and the probably best Digital Muff (from Universal Audio)... 😎🤘
I liked the Big Muff better, the Fuzz Face sounds very rough
Do you remember your knob settings?
Hi! Unfortunately not 100% but I always crank my Fuzzes and set the Volume to taste.. the Muff I think was Gain also full tone at 11:30 & Vol at 10 - Hope that helps a Bit 😎🤘
maybe about 6" and semi-hard?
@@chrisforrest4836 That usually happens when you pair a face with a muff.
F!!!! Me you can totally nail the sound and feel. Well done! What are the settings you used on the big muff? Alli can get out of any fuzz is a spitty scratchy rasp!
Thanks a lot man!!! Tutorial coming tomorrow 😎 Fuzz was Vol 11 o clock, tone 11 o clock, Sustain Full blast 😁🤘
@@MartinFrydas I need a tutorial to set my big muff 😢
B
B !
is it on
Slow Motion, or am i just hallucinating?
Fuzz=little more "spiky" and less of that smooth sustain. Midrange quite pronounced. Splat on the front end!
Muff=smoother, still some splat, but on Money the midrange difference was a dead giveaway.
Time was remarkably close!
Caveat: not all Fuzz and Muffs created equal!
I don’t think any average person would be able to tell
Russian Nano Is smooth !
Fuzz face was the 70s tone Big muff was the pulse tone
In Short - yes 😁🤘
Except for 'Animals' and 'The Wall', he used the muff on both.
Big Muff doesn't peter out on the single notes and sounds more like the album.
Big Muff have more rounded sound