I Landed in Seattle Without My Gun... See How an AirTag Resolved Things!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 พ.ค. 2024
- It's been a while since I was able to tell you folk a story about a small mishap involving flying with firearms. This is a decent one, with a happy ending. I was very grateful to have an AirTag in my gun case, and now it's something I'm going to strongly encourage almost EVERYONE to do, whether or not you're packing heat when you're packing your luggage. Enjoy! 👍😁👍
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7:34 " I just received a call from Dallas, they have the bag at security." 8 seconds later the bag appears.
That must be a record travel time from Dallas to Seattle!
Someone call NASA this airport employee invented warp drive.
The airline industry doesn't want you to know, they actually figured out teleportation. It's actually incredibly cheap too, which is why they don't want you to have access to it.
A Prick changed your tag 100%.
Some dude in Dallas is searching for his DJ kit, wondering why it's at security.
950,000 mph
I heard a funny story from one of the National Guard Rifle Team members a few years ago. He was traveling from his western state to Camp Perry Ohio via commercial airline. His issued Service Rifle Match rifle was a genuine GI issue M14 in a long Pelican case. He was watching the baggage handlers load baggage in the plane. He saw one of the baggage handlers pull his rifle case out of the cart, look at it, and surreptitiously place it on a tug instead of inside the cargo hold. The soldier quickly reported this to an airport police officer, describing the baggage man and the tug number. He also pointed out that the cop should call the FBI and BATF immediately. First because that weapon was US government property. Secondly, a military M14 is apparently classified as a machine gun by BATF, even if the full automatic parts aren’t installed. So this baggage man was stealing government property and illegally possessing a Class 4 machine gun. The bag handler was promptly arrested. And awarded a lengthy sentence at Club Fed.
good
I've been a customer service worker before, and I know it's rough, but I have no sympathy for workers who will look you in the face and knowingly lie about where your property is. Airtags are never wrong.
exactly, like I get jobs like this are hard, but some things are not forgivable, and lying to my face is one of them
They're not lying, that implies intent. They are just misinformed by the software and have no power to do anything beyond telling you what the software says.
To be fair that might be what they were trained to say
There is a big difference between lying and not being able to do your job because your employer doesn't give you the tools you need.
They’re not lying. They’re telling the truth that they know.
airport security ... two words that still don't go together. Confiscating your nail clippers and putting your actually dangerous luggage where ever they feel like it.
meh, in a country where any idiot may own a gun, does it really make a difference if they leave the gun laying around where any idiot can walk away with it?
@@networkedperson yeah, people like you could get their hands on one.
@@user-mn8lz7gf6d could? what makes you think I don't already? I'm in the US after all.
@@networkedperson hope.
@networkedperson
They are expensive?
I moved coast to coast a few years ago, mostly shipped everything I needed. Airtags were cheap enough that I dropped one in every box I shipped. When I received them at my new home I noticed the one with a computer and PS4 was missing, but UPS tracking had said Delivered. The airtag showed it on the truck. After calling customer serivce and telling them where it was, they called the driver and they finally delivered it....with the shipping label torn off.
And you know what...they can't scan it to mark as delivered with the label torn off, which means they scanned it and THEN removed the label.
@@aresjerry to…uh…dang I dunno. Oh! Vidya games!
Grown man with a playstation checking in here. Your snark is not appreciated.
@@aresjerrypeople enjoy things, do you not?
@@aresjerryPeople enjoy playing videogames. It can be very good for relaxing and can be good for retaining neuroplasticity. That all said who said they do not have kids. All the info is they moved. There is no reason to believe they do or do not have kids
@xathridtech727 all the childless men in here defending their regressed mentality 🙄 lemme guess you watch anime too 🤔
@@aresjerry What kind of stupid question is that, are you some kind of ancient relic who thinks only kids play games?
They're usually $75 for four on Amazon. They're also extremely useful with wheelchairs and airlines. Remember when American Airlines "forgot" to load my wheelchair onto my flight home from Defcon?
Nicee... always good to see the 'loner' they pass to some people...
Just sitting along a random wall, not scanned in arriving on a baggage claim, at SEA? Where have I heard that before? Oh right, happened to me last Christmas. Only reason I found my bag was because I almost tripped over it sitting next to a baggage claim. Went to tell Alaska's baggage office and they said "well, there's nothing we can do about that". Great sense of responsibility, folks.
You shouldn't have told them. Just throw your fit, tell em to get it together and figure it out, then leave with the bag
Keep in mind, the battery in these only lasts about a year before needing to be replaced. It's easy enough to do, but you'll definitely want a calendar reminder.
Can confirm this. They’re very good but the battery needs to be changed (it does nudge you too). Also the lack of android/non apple integration sucks. Imagine how good it would be if they could also use the huge android install base too!
@@CoffeeOnRails I can understand inconsistency with the Android platform, but yeah, for companies as big as Apple and Google, it seems like they could come up with something if they gave a shit.
It sends you a notification (to the iPhone) when the battery gets low.
you don't need a reminder, the phone will tell you well before it dies
Because of course it does. Yet another purposeful move by Apple to screw over the customer.
Flying Southwest to New Orleans. Bit of a mix up on our end. So our bags got on our flight but we didn't. Had to fly next one out about an hour later. Get to New Orleans, have to go to bagge office since it was pulled aside since we weren't there to get it. Her bag is there, car seat is there, my bag with firearm isn't. "Oh we're so sorry we'll look for it. Here is a number to call." My response was, "Well it contains a firearm so I will be contacting NOPD and the ATF. Can I have your name please?" My suitcase turned up within 5 minutes.
It's really stupid that airlines aren't *already* super careful about how they deal with firearms. Just from a risk perspective it's nuts to see how often they don't pay attention to it. Forcing travelers to use the state as a cudgel to get action which should be business-as-usual is daft af.
I travel with secure items in a pelican case for work. I found that a locked pelican case is a cheat code to meet all the cop dogs in the airport.
@@kellynolen498 All fun an games until they "alert" at the request of their handlers.
@@kellynolen498 The training does not even have to be intentional. The dog can go off the handler's body language.
next you should try a briefcase with a handcuff attached to it to make sure it can't leave your person. I bet that wouldn't attract any attention at all...
Yeah, I travelled internationally with one and stopped after getting stopped every single time for extra inspections. It was a pain.
I used to carry 74.5 lbs of tools, 1/2 lb under max weight back then . From Seattle to the east coast, luggage shows up, no tools. Later that night I picked up my tool box, didn’t check til the morning. Someone cleared out most of my tools. Had to file w/ FBI cause interstate, I filed a claim, wasn’t the usual missing bag 150 dollar max claim of course I may have padded the loss claim, just cause of inconvenience. Sea to Chi, again no tool box, direct flight. I demanded a supervisor, (pre Karen), I called United in Seattle, no clue. Chi agents said my tool box was delayed. I asked, simply, how the heck do you know this? Supervisor shows up, I show him my premium executive card, stating I fly almost every week. I want my damn tool box, it’s literally 8000 dollars in tools and special equipment. He said wait until the next flight. I objected, demanded they search for my bag so it doesn’t get stolen. If my belongings are “lost”, I will file a stolen report with the FBI, bill United for my time and return flight, since I cannot work without my gear. Thirdly, I will give away all my 20+ round trip tickets away to a foundation that will use them, and 4th, I will not fly on UA anymore. He left angry, about 20 minutes later he came out, dropped my tool box down in the floor and went back to wherever the f he hides all day. No apology or anything. Pretty sure he had to take some “Doans” pills and some Ben gay on his shoulder from carrying my shit from wherever they hide shit to steal.
Cool storah bruh...
So you have a story to tell your kids and it has a moral: if you're rude to people, they'll be rude right back. You have been warned.
@@3sierra15
I got my tools, rude back to airline management responsible for the well being of my property. If you’re one of the few happy with 20% value of your luggage, good for you. This was my business and I need my shit. Ridiculous I had to argue for my luggage aka tools to be brought to me.l, which obviously was set aside to steal by the airlines staff.
Their attitude was - and always will be - just a reflection of your own. In this life if you want respect, you get it by giving respect.
@@3sierra15 your addled mind makes no sense. Obviously by a mindset that what is yours, isn't yours. Thieves and liars hide behind a code that you don't own anything and that's why there's insurance. Brah. Except when it's your shit that's stolen.
I'd get 100 airtags yesterday if they let non-iOS users set up and track the damned things. I hate the closed garden approach. I also don't really know many people with iPhones so that's less of an option.
Google have/are rolling out their "Find My" network now too. Suspected they'll launch a first party tag at one of their events this year, but there's some from chipolo/pebblebee soon.
Obviously you're not going to get pings in from iPhones with those but anything running Google Play Services probably contributes
Yeah, I use a Tile, but that's not as widely used nor, I believe, as good at live tracking (not that I've needed to do that).
That's such a good thing. I am sure your name is on the lips of the Apple board by now. This community needs more courageous people, just like yourself.
@@dameanvil /s? lol
google have their own ones ready to go, but are waiting for apple to work on the stalking problems.
As a network engineer for a small Airport...you have no idea. I don't want to give away too much information, but many of the systems I have seen are one-off programs by defunct companies, and there is a lot of ambiguity as to who owns them (Airport/Airline/TSA).
I work in an industry where pretty much all of the companies were bought and sold three or four times before I lay eyes on it. If the gear ever had documentation at all, the new company's new company likely wouldn't have tracked those documents through new numbering systems, especially if the product is obsolete.
Best I get in the way of documentation is the weird hobbyist nerds who love to hoard documents and upload them online (thank you!) or the weird hobbyist nerds who love to run old hardware and post TH-cam videos of their exploits (also thank you!).
It's really tough manage old systems.
I teach industrial automation, and one of the companies that hires a lot of our graduates actually does both design of and retrofit of automation in baggage handling. Hearing their stories of what they get called in to "fix" on this stuff... yeah... what some of my former students tell stories about (and some of the p!ss!ng matches between the 3 groups you mention) are epic (in a bad way).
As someone who works in the midsize suburban library in a consortium where every piece of inventory that circulates has an RFID tag with a unique barcode number, I can attest that we still have to have multiple people running different levels of reports on items that have gone missing in transit from point A to point B. Sometimes they've been checked in at the wrong location because somebody has a terminal open to both the inside shelves and the drive up-which are technically separate locations even though they're around the corner from each other-and the item thinks it's one place when it's another. Sometimes It accidentally got routed to the wrong place and is bouncing back. Sometimes it got to exactly the correct location but never got scammed in there so the system still thinks it's in transit. Sometimes it just gets lost in the sorting facility and we never see it again.
All that being said, anything even vaguely valuable is kept in a locked cabinet and has to be picked up and returned at the service desk by that cabinet and not the open hold shelves and rarely gets routed to other locations (and then only between our main and branch location via our own employee courier, not the consortium libraries via the sorting facility and delivery trucks). Some things should not be left to ordinary handling procedures.
I god darn hope that nobody is scamming these innocent items. /j
Ah, the joys. You also have to deal with customers that intentionally or otherwise give wrong information.
I had a book come up late for returning, and I was CERTAIN I returned it. I remembered having a mental health crisis after dropping the book off at the library. I looked everywhere, called up the library and got them to look everywhere, at the branch I dropped it off at, and at the downtown branch where the book lives, everywhere.
Needless to say, I found the book a year and a half later, in the bag I had that day but hadn't touched since due to the bad memories. I dropped off a different book.
incredible... they SCREAM about "did you pack you bag" ... "have you been in attendance to your bag the whole time" ... but they can't even keep track of their stuff and then they leave it unattended...
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sidenote:
saw a news article about parents puttign airtags in their kids shoes...
It’s good for people with dementia who wander also.
I fly routinely for work (not with guns though) and I've got tags in EVERYTHING. I left Adelaide for New South Wales a few weeks ago and my baggage didn't end up in my plane. It ended up on an earlier plane - I watched it land 20 minutes before I did - yet I still waited for my bags for 15 minutes at the carousel.
I've had that sort of thing happen... and I actually found out why while working with a company that designs airport baggage handling systems. When a bag comes in off a different flight as yours did, they get set aside instead of being put out to be running around the carousels for the next however long... unfortunately, when your flight shows up, they unload the plane you are on first, and then after everything else is done, they go back and then move all the other luggage onto the carousel after they have confirmation it's to match up with the flight you are on.
It's a security thing, and the guys and ladies doing the design work on new systems are trying to figure better ways to speed that one up, but that one is literally waiting on a human to go down the list and move it off and on, and they don't have the automation figured out quite yet to make it happen any faster.
I was at the same convention you attended in Tulsa (we met at the end of Lance's class). I was also flying with a firearm, and tagged it with the Samsung equivalent tracker. My flights were drama-free, but you better believe I was checking the app during the layover. Never traveling without trackers again, including my carry-on. You never know when things grow legs.
hey, right on! i hope you enjoyed Lance's class as much as I did! he's an amazing and engaging teacher.
Which locks are you using now for your Pelican Air? I have the same one and want to lock it better.
Things grow legs all the time, especially in very busy, crowded places like around airports, etc. Very recently a travelling professional photographer had all his gear stolen from right next to him as he was trying to get checked into a particularly busy airport right at the counter. Having any sort of tag in his carryon could have alerted him immediately as his bag was separated from him.
I AirTag all my gun cases/bags. I also never use non-gun specific bags for gun things to avoid the nightmare in recent news of having a few stray rounds in your bag becoming a prison sentence.
The face of that dude (the guy that looking for golf club) quickly turned when you mentioned firearms. :)
The "Hello doggo" moment made me burst in laughter! Wasn't expecting it, but kind of anticipated it, just not so off the cusp and resume like nothing.
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Another firearm misadventure!
FYI - Flipper Zero can now be part of the air tag network, maybe keep a backup flipper with your firearm?😅
I definitely do.
My gun range in Oregon was hosting a long-range shoot and we had people from all over the world show. We had a man from New Zealand begin his trip home after the shoot beginning at the Portland airport. He had two air tags in his gun case. While going through TSA he checked his find my app and saw that his gun case was in the parking lot. He left TSA (and subsequently missed his flight) and was able to intercept the man with his gun cases just before the man got to his vehicle. The man worked for the airport in luggage. The owner of the gun case called the police and shortly after arriving the police told him there is nothing they can do because it is on airport property and that he would have to call airport security. Of course he did, and the man who took his gun cases gave the excuse that" he was going on break and did not want to leave that case alone and unsupervised." In the end everything worked out for the target shooter and the Portland airport employee is still working there.
When I was in the military I flew home to buy my first Glock. Same story as you, only it was locked in a pistol case in a large heavily modified alice pack, sitting outside the baggage claim office unattended. I'm still pissed about it a dozen or so years later.
I was going to buy an airtag for my pelican case, but you can't even activate them without an apple device.
There’s a non-Apple version from eufy now, I’ve seen.
@@Kerbtree Eufy make good stuff, so it is probably going to work well. OK, I just searched and it's called SmartTrack, and is supposed to have better range than Airtags.
@@KerbtreeI mean "Tile" is the original product that Apple copied.
But the absolute killer feature is that, airtags use every network connected iPhone in the world, to track.
The number of people with the Tile app is miniscule in comparison.
The number of people with the Eufy app is likely almost none.
So for tracking a lost item, they can't compete at all with airtags.
They're perfect products because the network is iPhones and there are so so so many of those.
Also the cryptography Apple are using is unmatched by the alternatives. Samsung also have a product that does a similar thing but the security and privacy is (or was, the researcher talk I went to on them was a few years ago) laughable. Location could be spoofed easily and OORC you could use Samsung’s services to track people tags.
The paper “Who Can Find My Devices?
Security and Privacy of Apple’s Crowd-Sourced Bluetooth Location Tracking System” (available of arXiv) does a good job of explaining the cryptography used.
We expect the Google compatible version in stores by June. I believe you can preorder now though. There are three third party manufacturers last I saw.
Working in the Airport Software Industry... bagtags ARE universal.
All bags, after being tagged, have this tag sent up to SITA, who then distribute the info associated with that tag (flight, your name, security clearance state, etc etc) to where it needs to go.
The problem is that airlines don't have access to the systems of the other airports and airlines.
If this happens again, tell them (the airline) to raise a ticket with SITA or the airport's BRS (Baggage Reconciliation System) provider, give them the tag, and they WILL be able to find it.
Source - Have to do this kind of thing aaaall the time.
I want to make sure my understanding is correct: The airlines have their own bag tracking systems and that info is also sent to the Airport's BRS system, correct?
And if the airline's internal bag tracking system can't find a bag, the airport's BRS system, will know where it is. But, the airline has to send a specific request for BRS to give that info to the airline?
Do I have that right? (And it sounds like the existence of two systems is because airline system is for moving bags within that airline while the BRS sysem was established for security reasons to make sure no unaccompanied bags are loaded.)
@@Trebor1415 that’s right - assuming the airport’s system received the message correctly, they should be able to track the bag.
Also yes, one of the features of the airport brs systems, or rather the messages themselves, is that they can be specifically marked as having cleared security or not.
The software im familiar with (and I would assume all others) specifically prevents using the software to load a bag that hasn’t been cleared by security.
@@Trebor1415 the airline themselves would likely not have direct access to the Airports specific tracking data (e.g the bag was last seen at stand xyz or chute abc) but should be able to put a request through to relevant teams to obtain that data if not.
I fly with firearms. I'm 100% adding air tags to the cases. I've long known how incompetent they are, but you actually have a solution. Thanks for posting!
I have a suggestion, maybe take a picture of your bag before the flight. Saves describing it at the desk.
I had that same experience just last week. My companions bag was delayed and they asked for description. I immediately took pics of my carry on bag. I wouldn't know the make & details as I don't fly much and it was probably a Walmart purchased bag. So yes-great idea to take some pics of your bag!
That is a brilliant suggestion, I never thought about it before but will from now on. Thanks Scott.
it baffles me that someone's luggage can end up in a different city than the passenger
Then you'd make a perfect baggage handler.
Systems NEVER break down.
Badly paid people have the greatest skills and cheap flights aren't running understaffed.
Some of these statements are untrue.
Bags can go astray in multiple ways. The tag comes off. The bag gets mangled in the airport conveyor system. The bag falls off a trailer. The bag goes on the wrong trailer. It can fall off the arrivals carousel somewhere unmonitored.
Someone can steal it (usually in arrivals before you see it on the carousel).
Every time a human being interacts with baggage is a potential failure point, and then there are pure accidents and negligence.
@@pd4165
i forgot how complicated >checked< luggage systems can be.
You should paint your case bright pink with bright green spots. That should be pretty easy to notice and describe to the personnel.
Damn useful device, if only Apple would actually follow through on opening up their protocols...
In a lot of cases I agree. With the FindMy network, absolutely not. A location tracking network needs to be locked down and stay locked down. Samsung has one now too...and they'll keep it locked down just the same.
that's why android is coming out with their open tags!
@@zoenagy9458 they’re not, but keep coping. I love that you even made up a name. Open Tags 😆
@@TheOfficialOriginalChad From this point on, you should probably start googling before replying. There's plenty of tags for Android: Chipolo One, Tile Mate, Samsung Galaxy SmartTag and so on. And by "open tag" he clearly meant they're tags with open protocol so that any Android phone brand can use them. Jeez...
Apple is one of if not THE most consumer hostile company on the planet. If there's no nefarious net benefit for Apple by opening up their protocols it's never gonna happen. They don't do anything out of the goodness of their heart. Even launching the AirTag had a nefarious purpose: collecting tracking data.
I can't wait for the Android equivalents to be competitive and widely available, my understanding is they were waiting on Apple to complete their part of the anti-stalking cross-compatibility before launching them. Chipolo, Pebblebee & Eufy are the only three I know of so far.
Yeah I'll be getting an Android one asap
I heard rumors that Google is going to be announcing an Android version of Airtag (or maybe the network and manufacturers will be able to make their own that tie into the ecosystem?) let's hope it's soon - maybe at the upcoming Google I/O!
@@GaviLazanPutting all competing products on one network of Android devices.. could work.
But there's no way all manufacturers will agree to leave that functionality in.
@@galacticboy2009 I'm talking about Google creating a standard protocol that other manufacturers can then use for their devices. This will probably not work with existing devices.
@@GaviLazan the code is in android already.
I inserted an airtag inside my dog's harness the very moment they were available. Make sure to wrap the tag in strech film or put it in small ziplock bag incase the dog uses new gained freedom for some puddle dives. Mine accidentally went in the washing machine and came out perfectly fine thanks to puddle proofing.
There’s waterproof holders now. I have two.
@@Desertdweller1965 Dime bags work, too, if you have some laying around.
“ TagVault™ AirTag Dog Collar Mount - IP68 Waterproof, Doesn't Dangle, Fits All Width Collars “
I purchased these for my dog’s collar. They (literally) bolt onto the collar. Been in use for over a year. Took it off last month to replace the 2032 button cell.
There are many other brands , but i like this one because it is not ‘laced’ onto the collar, which I don’t care for as it strains the clips, and also fits any collar wider than the holder.
Also, I use these for other ‘stuff’ that gets or may get exposure to water.
“ SUPFINE Waterproof Airtag Holder,2 Pack Air tag Keychain,Hard PC+TPU Full Body Protective Case with Loop Key Ring for Apple Tags,IPX8 Cover for Wallet,Luggage,Cat,Dog,Pets,for Item Finder(Black) “
@@ernestgalvan9037 These are good products for collar wearing dogs. The thing is collar is the first thing some ill intentioned person would get rid of. Mine wears a high quality padded harness and i cut a small hole, inserted the tag and sealed it. Even if they lose the harness the dog won't take to potential collar (hates them) they'll put on and they would need to put harness back on just to leash it. The chances are they won't have appropriately sized harness at hand. All this is earning me valuable tracking time.
They make harnesses now with a Airtag pocket designed in.
I had roughly the same thing happened to me with alaska airlines. On a flight from Phoenix to Seattle they couldn't seem to find my rifle case. Thank goodness for the air tag. You would think that with all the barcodes and information that's stored on that luggage ticket that it would somehow identify as a firearm and need to be handled with added security. With all the hoops, we have to jump through in order to fly with a firearm you think that the airline industry would need to be just as responsible.
The problem is of all the things that are standardized in aviation, luggage tags are not. The luggage tag they put on checked bags only has one purpose - to get your bag to your flight *at that airport*. Thank capitalism, but every airport uses a different system for handling baggage, such that the only thing that's actually standardized on a tag is the departure, destination and flight number.
You would think someone might have come up with a universal tracking thing like how you can track mail around the world, but nope, it's all non-standard. The only reason it works is when baggage is offloaded from a flight, it all goes to the same carousel. Of course, lost baggage gets loaded and unloaded off flights, so it takes manual intervention at each airport for someone to collect all the uncollected baggage and figure out if they were on the flight or if it's to forward a bag onto another plane for the journey towards you. In other words, lost baggage turns into a very manual routing process.
Of course, imagine if there was a universal barcode tracking system - sure, maybe we can only get updates every 12 hours, but that means unclaimed baggage could be collected, then shoved into a scanner that reads the barcodes and figures out if it's a passenger that was on the flight, lost baggage, or other thing and then somehow figure out how to route it to the owner. And all someone has to do is take unclaimed baggage and put it through a scanner. The problem is, it creates a job, which costs money, and tracking bags you'd think with the checked baggage fees they could pay for, but nope. It gets in the way of profit.
Bullshit. The problem is that you would actually have to standardize between companies that don't give a shit about you. If you gotta fly - you gotta fly. Having lost luggage won't prevent you from flying from the particular airport, as they're a local monopoly. You might choose a different airline, but for the airport it's the same thing, as either way you'll have to go through them. Also the first and second line of support is trained to not allow you to go any higher - and the managerial money spending decisions are made at levels so far removed from even the 5th line of support, that they just couldn't give a single fuck.
So it's not that it gets in the way of profit - it's more like the issue is not having a substantial impact on profit. And with the luggage handlers who will destroy anything that is not encased in styrofoam, LOST luggage is the least of the airline's worries - with destroyed luggage being a higher priority problem.
And Ollam should have called the cops to expedite the process as there is only one thing that gets the customer-facing workers actually working and makes their hidden managers emerge from their penthouse floor offices - it's Fear Of Federal Prosecution.
Baggage tags are universal - I used to scan the barcode of every single bag that came my way, in my specialist baggage handing position - if it flew on a recognised airline it had a tag with a barcode and a 3 letter destination code. Or several if you are transferring.
These tags can be ripped off (frequently when the handle they're threaded through comes away) - most tags have extra barcodes on the end that peel off and have a sticky back - if you can intervene before the bag disappears and stick one of these elsewhere on your bag it can save you a lot of hassle.
I always write my phone number, in sharpie, on my bags and my name and the destination/flight number on a separate piece of furniture/gaffer tape stuck to the side.
What a shitshow!
"Thank Capitalism" ... Says the guy who can't see the forest for the trees.
You're blaming capitalism? Judas
Aviation systems run on mainframes that are from the era when jet airplanes are a novelty. Any innovation in these systems happens when they can find another COBOL programmer that is not yet rotting in the ground.
If the system is stable and secure then why change it?
My local airport only upgraded software when the hardware wore out.
Drive by doggo looking for his bag too
behind the beard view is an interesting videography choice.
I read that as didn't want to make it obvious that he was recording. Perhaps in shirt pocket, with the camera peeking out?
@@RossReedstrom i just tucked the phone into my backpack's shoulder strap so I could have my hands free to hand them things, hold my other bag, etc. but yeah, really great production values from me, as always, lol
@DeviantOllam I actually kind of liked that it wasn't exposing the faces of people who were mostly just additional victims. It's not like the person behind the counter can't just abandon the counter to go off looking for your bag.
The real problem is the people who created this system, where the approach to locating lost luggage is to just wait and hope it turns up somewhere.
@@DeviantOllam I figured something like that was the case. But I prefer to think it was a Quentin Tarantino like creative choice.
It’s the latest in “Action Beard Cam” technology!
Here's a tip. When you're not traveling, put one of those AirTags in your vehicle. The battery is aging anyway, so you may has well have it do something useful. You'll be able to find your car in a parking lot, track it when it's stolen, etc.
Separate tags for each piece of luggage or vehicle, etc…. In fact, at least two per - one in a more obvious place, which might be easily found by someone trying to steal the luggage or vehicle in question. And one in a much less obvious place, where they will have to look much harder to find it.
Oh, and replace your batteries when you get told that the batteries are weak.
1, One of the reason I love this guy is that he stopped to acknowledge the doggos. 2, 100% agree, You have stand there and be visible before you get stuff done at times. Had that happen also in SeaTac, However it was the airline I was using at the time's fault due to short connection time (running from one side of the terminal in Vegas to the other isn't exactly a fun time), the bigger one was in London where they insisted my baggage was accidently on a flight to the Middle East a whole baggage container worth of bags, not just mine. Nope it was on a vehicle at the cargo side of the airport. Was eventually brought back to us all. 20 pissed off people made them get on it and get it found. 3, I also have airtags (also as an Android user). Have one right behind me in my backpack that I carry every day. 4, honestly these days I try where I can to only have carry on luggage, less BS at the destination because by that time I either want to get to my hotel or need to be somewhere. Thanks for the video Sir, appreciate it.
I've had this happen and you used to be able to call the ATF and report it stolen at the airport and they would come shutdown the airport if it didn't re-appear quickly.
I guess you could act like you're looking up the number for the local FBI or ATF office and make a big show of requesting an emergency response for a stolen firearm...
I got off of a flight last year in a large, international airport, to see (what seemed to me) an entire flight's worth of luggage lined against a wall, unsupervised. Thankfully, my bag arrived on time, unharmed. But it really does make you wonder what on earth is going on back there. Just awful
This man is a national treasure. Your trials and tribulations help educate thousands and thousands of people.
You have more patience than me after the second go around I would have been filing a police report and demanding to speak to the head of security for that airline on sight.
Most convincing sales pitch for an iphone I've ever seen. They should be paying you. And thanks.
You'd think a universal baggage tracking system would be a hole in the market that a company could fill, but that would require the airline banks to care about customers
In suprised the ATF hasn't showed up first.
Airtag, I'm sold. Crappy customer service must be exposed. Thanks for sharing your experience.
I was a little apprehensive about using AirTags, but my son has a cat that likes to escape and he got one and put it on his collar, that thing will lead us right to him, I love it. I’m sure the cat is confused about how we suddenly always know exactly where he is.
Damned right. I don't care if an airline says we can't use them, it's happening.
You are aware they xray bags, yeah? Your bag is just not gonna get on the plane then.
For non Apple users, have a look at tags for pets. You'll also need a dedicated SIM. Call the thing and you get an SMS with coordinates and a maps link.
Not as convenient, but accurate to a few meters. They are also easy to modify, allowing installation into e-bikes etc.
Could you tell us a brand name or put a link to one for sale. That sounds very interesting
I have a bunch of Samsung Smarttag2's and they work perfectly well for Samsung users, including Ultrawideband homing, so there's that.
@@deankruse8751 TH-cam automatically deletes comments with links, so it's not possible to link you to stuff in the comments. Try Googling "tags for pets".
Or wait for trackers that use Google's Find My Device network. Basically the same as Apple's but it's android.
Never seen a better air tag ad in my life.
Dum simple
This happened to me, too, in Seattle about two years ago flying on Alaska. My case with sidearm was left sitting in the open along a wall at an unmanned luggage office. I didn't have an AirTag in it, but I walked back and forth between the various luggage offices until I found it after about three hours of waiting for it... I am buying AirTags!!
Also incredibly handy to put on pets collar's. The cr2032 battery lasts for literal years in those things.
I really dislike Alaska - massive run arounds, no refunds, lost luggage, very poorly run overall. Glad everything worked out for you.
Yo you left out “doors flying off”. Which happened the DAY AFTER we flew back from Hawaii on the same model and in the same Geo area the plane that lost the door came from.
And Hawaii sucked after having lived there in the early 80’s and seeing it now.
My compliments on remaining cool and polite through all that. Good job. Too many would lose their composure and be yelling and swearing at the customer service folks.
Yeah I’d just tell them that my state requires me to report lost or stolen firearm and I’m gonna do that in ONE HOUR
Some one was attempting to steal that bag.
Might actually be worth getting something like iPhone SE as a backup phone for travel (not a bad idea to have one) just to have access to AirTag ecosystem.
Or just get a cheap used iPad that you can hotspot if needed.
Having worked at Sea-Tac International I’m willing to bet they play the shell game in order to misdirect long enough to make it an insurance “lost” claim so that the criminals can obtain an FFL regulated item.
Has anyone set precedence in a lawsuit against airlines regarding firearms?
That wide eye moment…
You've convinced me to have an AirTag in any and all luggage the next time I fly.
The older I get, the funnier it is to watch stuff like this.
“Dev yells at phone in parking garage”… hahaha.
Or for a different meme reference, “Those kids would be very upset if they could read bag tags.” 😂
You’re going to make a great grumpy old man in another twenty years, Dev. And the kids will wonder how you got that way. Hahaha.
Just remember the bag folk didn’t make enough in that hour to buy an AirTag. Been there done that, multiple lives ago. For Continental. Remember them?
I don't understand why airports have not integrated RFID tags into baggage tags so they can have AirTag-esque dynamig bag tracking in their app..
You book your ticket with Sandpiper Air, arrive at the airport and Fay slapps an RFID tag on/in your bag. The tag is automatically paired to the Sandpiper App. Every inch of the airport has readers that ping your bag every few minutes, or when it detects that it has moved between readers. A scanner at the cargo door scans every bag the moment it enters the plane and Lowell yeets it inside.
Once you land, you know the instant the bag leaves the plane and which tug and trailer it is on. Instead of huddling around the baggage carousel waiting for your bag to drop, you can stand at a comfortable distance away awaiting a ping the moment your bag clears the chute. Once your bag leaves the airport door, the tag is deactivated, removed from your app and can be discarded.
Frequent flyers could even have their own personalized reusable tag like the ones Princess Cruise Lines Ocean Medallion. They look, essentially, like an air tag with customizable graphics in the center and engraved with your name and cruise info. If cruise lines can integrate them, there is no reason airports and airlines should not.
Delta has UFH 900MHz RFID in their luggage tags and i miss how well that would work
They can't figure out a way to extract more money from you with that.
As an Oklahoma I 100% cosign the Tulsa shade. Tulsa is a fucking hellmouth.
Great idea. I bought my Abloys based on your recommendation over a decade ago, and a package of AirTags today. Thanks man.
I'll admit, that's the first time I've heard the "Oh, someone put another tag on it" excuse! I can see how that would utterly confuse things. And it's true that there are often multiple barcode stickers on a bag, so one from a previous flight/segment might have been on it (I carefully check for this).
Not even $25. Four for $80 on Amazon and Costco. It's a no-brainer.
airtags - for those times when you're not with your TPMS RFID tags, but you still want NSA to know where you are.
wow love the amazing tire pressure monitor ID reference!
But of COURSE the NSA needs your AirTag in order to track you. I thought everyone knew that.
@@ernestgalvan9037they have it
Good idea. I travel with my guitar a lot and usually I have it place in the "closet" in the cabin but on smaller aircraft it sometimes has to be put in with checked luggage. On more than one occasion it has been "accidentally" moved to a different airline, aircraft, forwarded on, etc... Air tags, great idea.
My experience at Sea-tac was different. Checking in with tsa was my problem. The agent tried her best to tear my case open (she failed). She then stated she could get my gun if she wanted to.
I have been using this case for 25 years without problem.
So the agent calls someone and says she has a gun on the terminal floor. I am expecting SWAT to respond. A supervisor showed up, said the case was fine as is. But she did find the loose round inside. She seized it as a hazardous material. Told me not to do it again. She also asked the first girl why SHE did not find that round.
@Deviant Just wait a few months. The Android version of Airtag is on preorder because Apple FINALLY implemented the anti stalking feature Google was waiting for. By June we think they will be available in stores as well as online.
as efficient as air infrastructure is it still has some glaring issues, such as baggage monitoring and flight recorders that only run for 30 minutes
At least for U.S airlines, new builds are now going to be required to have 25-hour recorders, with fleets having to be fully-upgraded some years from now. The current standard is 2 hours, as I understand it.
@MAlanThomasII it should be live streamed over their precious satellite internet.
Yep just got Tile for Android tags since my last trip and have them in all my bags gun or not. Lost luggage is frustrating and even worse with firearms involved. I also take a picture of my bag at the airport before flying or checking if I have to in case it gets lost. A bright strap also helps be more identifiable and help hold it together should a zipper let go or if not closed well after a bag inspection.
Us: "We have an air tag in the case. I can show you right here that it's here, on the ground nearby." Airlines: "We don't know from teknologees...let me pick up my phone and talk for a bit, maybe that will work"
the power of COBOL
The problem is not necessarily COBOL. Large banks do not routinely deposit money into accounts from nowhere. The banks do not routinely lose money in transit from one bank to another. Mainframes and custom business applications are highly reliable - when programmed properly. Developing such business applications is not inexpensive nor rapid.
@@r2db you are of course correct but that's less funny so i choose to disbelieve it
First time apple actually did something right.
Airtag as a service app on android is actually a valid idea (with multiple foreseeable problems down the road, but it's doable for an indeterminate amount of time) lol
Well done for putting up with that and remaining polite but firm.
The amount of times this happens to you, shows that this can happen to anyone, more than once.
Thank you so much for these videos.
This reminds me of something my grandma taught me. There's ducks, and there's eagles. Ducks sit around in the duck pond quacking away doing minimal effort. Eagles soar above and beyond. I strive to be an eagle in everything I do for my customers.
As a former pilot for AAG. I can confirm that they leave entire carts of bags in locations, never update the central tracking system, and never update the cart location tag. Luckily for that example I got out of the flight deck walked over to the cart and looked at the tags. They were all supposed to go on the flight I was flying but the third party inter air baggage company employees didn’t care. Luckily the bags made it on because I found a solution, but that isn’t always possible.
Deev + shenanigans = great video content! Keep up the great work.
I hate when people try to BS against an AirTag. I'm glad I didn't have any of that when I was flying home from the east coast. I'm glad your luggage issue was resolved relatively quickly.
Thank you for holding their feet to the fire and then creating a video we can share.
Share 1) to help friends, family and strangers know the issues have not gotten better. With all the computers, robots and now A.I. it should be better.
2) To put pressure on airlines to improve. Granted lost luggage is not a big expense nor a big money maker for the air lines. Hope this helps.
Flight Shenanigans with Deev is my favorite content
Her eyes when you said “AirTag” says it all.
That was a public service announcement.
I've been flying on Alaska airlines a couple times a year for about a decade. Only had one instance where luggage didn't arrive on the carousel within the 20 minutes.
Can't wait for the Android+iPhone colab where any tag can be tracked with even more phones to make them even better.
I agree, I find it unreal how they can't know where a bag is with such a unique identifier and a system of scanning it everywhere it goes.
Bonus points for the bag being on a plane near someone with working wifi. I was happily tracking my own checked bag on AA as we flew ;)
Love the advice. Crying inside on the Tulsa dig. Let em know next time you are here and we will make it more fun.
Can you please make a comprehensive video on what to do and not do when traveling with a firearm. I know you have done several videos, but can you make a tutorial. Buying a ticket, checking in, declaring it, picking it up once landed, etc.
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@@DeviantOllam You are amazing!!! Thank you 😊
4:06 You properly practiced this pefore 😛
5:42 When you paint your pelican case, please let us know how that goes. Or perhaps pink polka dots decals. Anything that stands tF out.
As a lifelong Tulsan, it's ok, I get it.
Watched a video recently where a plumbing contractor put airtags on tools in his work trailer. Trailer gets broken into, and he tracks his tools to a construction site and calls cops. He gets his tools back and sees alot of other tools, probably stolen too. Airtags saved him plenty of $$$
So, the Andriod option for this is usually Tile. Which so far I've been very happy with.
A trip in January, SEA to Florida, was our first using them. One thing to be aware of is they connect via bluetooth to other people's cell phone and report the location those cell phone report, which isn't always correct.
I figured this out when we'd taken off and lugage that should have been with us while we were on the plane showed a history of being with us in the airport, then moving around the airport, then suddenly in another nearby town's residential area. And then no changes.
This was for hours while we were in the air (I did not share this information with my wife, who's bag it was since I didn't need to panic her until we could do something.) Once we landed, the tag finally refeshed it's location showing that it was in Florida and we were able to pick it up were we expected to.
But, for hours it showed as being in a location it never was. I'm sure the last bagage handler to handle that bag lived in that residential area, and their phone hadn't updated it's location (might have had GPS turned off).
So, technology is great. Love to use it as a tool, but don't always trust it to tell you the truth.
Crew-cut in the HiViz vest at 8:00 is thinking "I could be home mowing the lawn now".....and the brunette is going "Is this Earth?"
3:53 is the best damn "squirrel!" moment I've ever seen on a youtube video. "Hello Doggo's!"
Looking forward to when the air tag protocol is more universal and better supported on Android as proposed and agreed upon.
Yeah, you handled that much better than I would have!