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- Ninjago Crystalized was very bad. Let's talk about it.
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You’re just mad lol
good point
@@Crusty783 very good point
This is a compelling argument.
Didn't think about that.
@@Crusty783 Man you just got your point invalidated in 4 words how is that even possible wtf
The biggest problem in Harumi's "redemption" is that it wasn't a redemption at all. She didn't "become good". She didn't see the error of her ways, she didn't let go of all the hate and resentment she harbored. She kinda just realized she's been fighting the wrong guy...
Yeah, she didn't learn rEvEnGe and hatred are emotions she needed to handle better, she just got someone else to blame. Crystalized part 2 literally ruined everything.
Eh I think she did genuinely feel remorse and guilt for what she did based on some of her facial expressions and responses towards Lloyd. They just did a horrible job at expanding upon it.
It was so bad, and lgbt stuff shoild never be put on children stuff, since children shouldnt care about that yet, in adult stuff sure, wanna know why lightyear was a flop? Go woke go broke is true
True! She didn’t learn she just redirected her anger 💀
@@ericmagana3215
What lgbtq stuff? There was nothing like that in this season 💀
I was hoping for a “The benefit of grief” like episode for Kai and/or Jay, so they could really express how Seabound affected them
Same.
same dude
yes me too
same
Tbh I wanted a episode to see how Jay elemental power affected his emotions and maybe make him scared of getting close to water because to represent his fear of hurting Nya since his element is water counter
Felt the writing was odd in Part 2. Lloyd says to Harumi that he’d rather see the good in people. He wants to forgive Harumi, despite her manipulating him multiple times.
Yet he didn’t seem to want to see the good in Garmadon, the one who helped the team defeat the Oni the last time they saw each other, and was also helping with saving Ninjago from the Overlord.
yeah exactly :(
like that scene where lloyd shoves the pizza onto garmadon genuinely upsets me in a bad way
Crusty I thought Garmadon eating Pizza was Hilarious🍕😂😂😂😂
@@Crusty783 Honestly, the more I think about it... the more I realize how hypocritical Lloyd really is. Not to mention.... they WANT to make us forget about Sensei Garmadon.
Episode 20 SHOULD have been this: Lloyd has doubts, but suddenly, he starts to wonder if the current Garmadon he sees in front of him is Sensei Garmadon or at least the Lord Garmadon from the 1st two seasons.
Lloyd will actually give Garmadon a chance, as this surprises even Garmadon himself, given Garmadon's relationship with Lloyd in the Oni Trilogy.
@@justinesun631Garmadom someone Lloyd knows is forced to be evil doesn't give a chance but Harumi the person who turned Garmadom evil again in the first place he gives second chances like what?
@@craigpeoples9883 Exactly!
One of my main problems is how they made it so easy to defeat the vengestone warriors. How do you die to stacks of newspapers?!
i love how a wooden guitar is able to instantly vaporise vengestone
@@Crusty783 😂
Pretty sure it didnt but ok
@@l1ttl3ab77 it did in the battle against the Vstone warriors
@@Crusty783 it crushed them but it just immobilized them temporarily. It didnt actually destroy them
Personally my biggest problem was how much they teased lloyd’s golden power coming back and then just didn’t
I KNOW RIGHT?! Harumi brought up how power was never truly lost, and that could have been a great set up for Lloyds golden power returning! I mean fr! Imagine Lloyd’s gold power back and then there’s an epic rehash of the final battle! That would have been legendary!
And just the fact that they did all that stuff about oni Lloyd and then finally when we get to see his form ,it last for 5 seconds. In my opinion, that was pretty disappointing. I just hope in Ninjago 2023 he is the antagonist,then the party starts.
@@smallrockstudios9395 Idk. A big problem with Crystalized was that it was already just a rehash of the final battle
yeah honestly, i was fully expecting lloyd to get back his golden power. instead it turned into a freakin dragon, which was something lloyd could already use (if you ignore the nerf all the ninja got. seriously, i know that the ninja would've been too strong if they had dragons and airjitzu, but cmon bro.)
his golden power would've been much cooler
Yea. One of my only problems with the Crystal King, is how he was defeated, just a slap from the dragon's tail, like cmon, that's incredibly lame compared to the other 2 times. An easy solution on how to fix that, is making the powers that go into Lloyd, not create a dragon from nowhere, and instead grant him his golden powers back, which would be a very good tie-in with season 2, in which that happened but a little differently.
I have a weird relationship with this season. The first 2/3 of this season was great. However, it falls off after that. While there were still some things I liked such as the "jump up kick back whip around and spin" and seeing everyone rebuild the monastery, there are several missed opportunities, the Garmadon and Lloyd stuff felt like a rehash of season 10 until the very end, and the way it feels like they didn't finish watching MotM is pathetic.
Do not forget how HEARTBREAKINGLY crystal generals were nerfed
WHATS MOTM
@@Gunnr7 Marc of the Oni?
@@veryinterestinganimations4938 OH CUZ IT HAD A M AT THE END INSTEAD OF A O SO I DIDNT KNOW
wait i thoguht MotM was master of the mountain and MotO is march of the oni
I just realized, in season 9 Garmadon said to Lloyd "people don't change, they only reveal who they truly are".
That could explain why he doesn't believe Garmadon can change, but Harumi can, because he believes that she is truly good in her heart
Even though she murder her adopted parents and guardian, attempts to kill both the ninja and Lloyd’s mother, work with the literal embodiment of evil. But hey she “help” save the day.
Lloyd wrongly believes she is good in her heart. She demonstrates nothing to back that up, ever. Unlike Garmadon, who IS good at heart, and was good until he was cursed, which even then, he still was, as he loved his family, and that was actually his only reason for wanting to make ninjago in his image in the first place. His motives were love, and loss, and he was cursed. Harumi's motives were just plain evil, and she was not cursed. She chose it. Garmadon had no choice. He gave up his life for everyone. Then he had no choice when Harumi brought him back like a frankenstein monster. Garmadon only said that, because at the time he lacked the self awareness that he later gained. Again, Harumi is to blame for all this. Garmadon wasn't changing, he was reverting back to his true self. The writers really messed all this up. They lacked logic, and they lacked morality. We believe actions, not words. Garmadon says lots of stuff he doesn't really mean, as he doesn't like feeling vulnerable. Harumi never should have been redeemed, and neither Lloyd, nor Garmadon should like her.
@@lucyanderson9064 agreed but garmadon still sucks at parenting even beofre he was revived he still left his son like msiako and didn't return still at least he saved lloyd once
Like let's be honest ninjago parents sucks
@@sanscoolson5125 I belive lloyd should have k1ll3d harumi or put her in prison
The thing that doesn't make sense to me is how the overlord ressurected harumi but when the overlord was crushed she didn't die
In my opinion here’s how things should’ve went…
1. Wu dies fighting the Overlord.
2. Garmadon dies fighting the Overlord.
3. Either the Ninjago Fuse with the Golden Weapons to become the Golden Ultra Dragon and die fighting the Overlord. Then Lloyd, after losing everything, becomes the Golden Oni and defeats the Overlord.
4. Or the Ninja Fuse with the Golden Weapons and their powers go back into Lloyd, and he becomes the Ultimate Spinjitzu Master again.
And harumi goes to jail
I dont think that the Ninja have to fuse with the weapons and die fighting the Overlord, and idk about Wu, but that could make it so that the fight actually matters more. Also I like the idea of Lloyd either just using the oni to defeat the overlord or getting the gold powers back. Also yeah Harumi shouldve died
I think Garamadon dying would have been a nit too much, but I agree with the rest.
My biggest fear with Crystalized came true in part 2.
It tried multiple plot points and charackter arcs and in the end,
it gave us nothing.
Come on now.
What are you talking about?
It gave us shits
My only problem
Garmadon should have said: ITS GARM’IN TIME
SOOOO TRUE
Then Garm's all over the Overlord and the vengestone army
@@Crusty783 I'm glad Crystallized made Oni Garmadon looking better than the March of the Oni one
my fav line from the movie is "garmadonna likeeyyyyyy", man I wish the movie was still on Netflix
I think a lot of the biggest problems and missed opportunities with Crystalized could have been relieved if this weren’t marketed as the final season of Ninjago.
this season for me is the definition of "I'm not sad, just disappointed"
I think the line is “I’m not mad, just disappointed.” Still, hard agree.
I’d say it was executed good, but many missed opportunities and too many personality changes
They honestly should've pulled off an SOG and Hunted with Crystallised and made the story branch into a second season so that the writers could flesh out ideas and concepts that wanted to explore.
personally I hate S8 but even I agree with this
@@Xeorboom Why do you hate season 8, It's absolutely wonderful interms of writing, animation, design, and it has one of the best villians (until crystalized) that we've seen
@@bigpingus7525 I fell asleep 5 times rewatching it...
but S7 is my favourite season so what do I know?
@@Xeorboom Ironic because my least favorite season is 7 though, too me that season had a downgrade interms of animation, its generally a blur because its been a while I'll try giving it a rewatch. Imo idk how you fell asleep watching sons of garmadon considering its plot was very engaging with the mystery of the quiet one and such.
@@bigpingus7525yeah, season 7 is the most boring one (only good episodes are the first and the last😂) . My fav are 8,5,4 and 9.
one thing i REALLY missed in Crystalized was that Zane and the Overlord didn't had any interaction, they just ruled out that Zane eliminated the Overlord for 13 seasons
He only mentioned Lloyd "tried" defeating him twice now. Dude, did you forget Zane blew you up?
Now sure the 2nd time Lloyd tried to defeat him, but did he forget Lloyd didn't defeat him, Zane did, Zane literally sacrificed himself and destroyed the overlord
@@rickygamingproductions that's not even what i was talking about buddy i was saying they didn't have any interaction and i missed that
@@jay4417 That's what I was talking about. It's like the Overlord forgot Zane was involved in his 2nd defeat but here he says it like Lloyd defeated him when Zane was the one to destroyed him
@@jay4417 Wish Zane and Overlord had some interaction
The sad thing about all of these points is that its not like the things that took place in the season COULDN'T happen, but the way they were excecuted made it look like the writers had *no time* (that or chose not to prioritize the important things, making their debut feel off)
A prime example of this would be Harumi's "redemption" arc. I'd believe her having so called "feelings" for Lloyd if she actually showed it instead of the writers telling us randomly (isn't show don't tell like, the #1 rule in writing?) I'd believe her wanting to change her ways if she showed conviction instead of smiling proudly when the Crystal King's plans are in motion. It's like the writers were simply using her as a means of conflict ONLY, then at the last minute to build up as much drama as possible for the last episode they go "hey, what if Harumi fought with the good guys?" And they didn't think of how that would look on her overall development :/
it's a kiDs ShOw tho, so no one is actually paying attention to that stuff, right? 🤦
"The sad thing about all of these points is that its not like the things that took place in the season COULDN'T happen, but the way they were excecuted made it look like the writers had no time (that or chose not to prioritize the important things, making their debut feel off)"
Wait what?
I personally don't think it's too bad, sure it's got flaws, and it could've been a lot better, but I loved it and enjoyed it greatly, let's see if your video can change my opinion, excited to hear your thoughts! :)
Oh wow I found you here! I like your content by the way. I was looking for the times the weekend whip was used and found your channel lol
@@artemissrijan473 :D
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The beginning of the season was just a retread of the ninja splitting up in Tournament of Elements. They should have shown the ninja remaining intact (considering all they've been through), and we should have seen how the team managed without Nya, especially Kai and Jay. At least in tournament of elements, the ninja did experience their first major loss and were taking some time off to grieve, but in Crystalized, they had completely disappeared from public view even though they were literally Ninjago's defenders. Seems uncharacteristic of the ninja to do that (especially Lloyd) after all they'd been through in the Oni Trilogy. The whole prison arc and new ninja subplot should have never been included, and if they were bringing Nya back, just make it a quick thing where her powers are taken from her, and don't drag it on for several episodes.
I didn’t like the whole, “Nya was the glue of the team”, bs Jay dropped because they worked together greatly before she joined in season6. I get her being a vital member, cuz they all are really, but I never really considered her to be the heart of the ninja.
@@zer0watch454 Yeah, people forget that Skybound was the first season that Nya was a full member of the team. It seems wild that the ninja would not only split up but completely withdraw from public life and just hide out for over a year. If anything, Nya's sacrifice should have motivated the team to work harder to prevent threats. The whole new ninja subplot and prison arc could be completely removed and the season would barely change (although now it will have much more time to develop characters like Garmadon and the villains).
Short answer: Season 16 is basically season 2 of ninjago but 10x worse
15 not 16
I felt like the writers forgot Kai was nya's brother at some points she only had memories of jay only went to Jay she only cared for Jay
You know, Lloyd didn't HAVE to grow two extra arms in Oni form. That was just extra of him.
He doesn't suit them.
I don’t know, I really liked the four arms
Alright, hear me out, here’s how I’d personally handle Crystalized part two: (well, this isn’t the full list, but there are many things that I still have no idea what to do with like Kai and Jay’s grieving)
-first of all: Harumi.
As many have already pointed out, her “selfless act” that led to her redemption was completely useless. Not only did it contribute little to nothing to the Overlord’s defeat, but the reason behind it was dumb…what happened to the whole “balance” analogy? And besides, she already knew that millions would die and suffer, but only seemed to care when her parents were brought up. We get it, the overlord possessed the snake, but technically:
1. He did not directly kill her parents. It was collateral damage.
2. Lloyd still released the serpentine, which released the devourer. And besides, what about Pythor? How come he doesn’t get the blame for it?
So here’s what I’d do:
Have Harumi attack the overlord in a fit of rage, until she processes his words and freezes. She’s eventually st*bbed in the back (haha, irony) by a crystal and OFFICIALLY is unalived. We get a scene with her in the departed realm saying hello to her parents, and how she regrets what she’s done (she released the overlord in the first place, and caused the damage). She apologizes directly to the people she k*lled, turns into a kid, and is led to a bright light while holding her parents hands.
Maybe it was any time left, I’d squeeze in a scene where Garmadon and Lloyd talk about it? (Or even better, MISAKO and Lloyd, since she’s been through something slightly similar)
-The Ice Emperor
Hear me out:
What if instead of Zane getting hurt during a random crash, he accidentally switches to the ice emperor as a self defence thing when he gets attacked. When he looks at his hands, he gets scared and deactivates. And at that exact moment, Mr. F shows up and absolutely wrecks him with his own vengestone beast thing. This way, we ACTUALLY get to see the ice emperor’s OG powers for a while (and a reasonable explanation as to why he randomly “returns” when Pixal finds him)
-“Compatible”
Ok, I actually really liked this episode, but I wasn’t the biggest fan of the cliche “true love kiss” thing that brought Zane back, so here’s how I’d change it:
When Borg explains what’s wrong with him, Pixal offers to bring him back…manually.
So she goes inside his head and tries to “find him” so he can “wake up”. (While all this is happening, FugiDove, Ronin, Ultra, and Killow talk about their future and decide to open a food truck when all this is done or something))
She ends up finding him, but he’s asleep and isn’t waking up. She goes back and says her goodbyes (except this time, it’s in Zane’s POV as he slowly tries to wake himself up) and it pretty much ends the same way. Still an annoying fake oi character death, but with a slightly better explanation…I think…
Edit: UPDATE: I FOUND A BETTER WAY TO DO IT.
So inside Zane’s head, Pixal finds the tin can getting beat up by the ice emperor as random memories flash on the screen. Basically, it’s symbolism as to how he believed that the ice emperor defined him and that his mistakes overpowered every positive thing he did.
After Pixal’s lil speech, Zane realizes that if the person he loves most can still love him back after seeing the worse side of him, than he can still love himself, which is how he wins the fight.
-Nya
I feel like her “slowly getting her powers back” kinda sucked…like, it took away the consequences and it didn’t sit right with me.
So hear me out: what if her powers are still there, but the more she uses them the closer she gets to merging again? So instead, she calls Nyad, and she agrees to help? That way Nya’s powers wouldn’t have to randomly return without a price.
-Wu and the Overlord
The overlord’s unalivement didn’t make a lot of sense to me, ngl. Like, shouldn’t there have to be some consequence for “ruining the balance”? He physically cannot perish as long as creation still exists…
But what if the master of creation were to be unalived too?
As Lloyd’s dragon gets weaker, Wu is forced to come to his aid to strengthen it. However, this requires him using his full strength which ends up oofing him in the process. His last words could be something like “I promise I’d stand up to you (overlord) to my last breath. I’m willing to keep that promise.”
Instead of the Ninja talking abo it their powers in the end, we get a “funeral” for Wu.
In the end, as they’re rebuilding the monastery, we get a shot of pretty much every fallen ally from Dr Julien, to Morro, to Mystake in the Monastery rooftop, looking down on the Ninja and their current allies. Eventually, we find Wu (besides the FSM) as he says “remarkable. Quite Remarkable.”
Other than that, I’d definitely leave the final battle alone. The whole point of this battle is the fact that it’s supposed to be the ACTUAL final battle that Quantin predicted and that has been a thing since season 1. Having it be similar to the season 2 finale sounds fitting. (…but it’d be really awesome if the dragon turned into a sword and Lloyd used it to attack the overlord)
Wow that’s alot better than what we got when I was watching compatible I was scared for zane and pixal I thought one of them would sacrifice themselves but through the power of love a robot wakes up like pixals speech brought me to tears how did zane even wake up he’s a robot
Okay the final battle was a bit underwhelming after motm and seabound I was expecting Lloyd to have an epic fight scene where he realises that he can’t run away from his heritage but he can change and he merges his oni and dragon side to destroy the overlord but we ended up getting dragon go brrrrrrr
Okay harumi I despise her like why is that Lloyd and garmadon were blasting the overlord and he took 0 damage but hero with girl power cuts his arm of she deserved to die
Also why does garmadon have wings is it cause he used his dragon powers well I’m done thanks for reading and share your thoughts
hiring you as a writer rn
@@jissmol8738 …bro tysm-
Bro harumi is just manipulated by the overlord
2:13. She went from "I want my life back, who cares about controlling water" to "I'm useless I can't control water". Really? Taking your life for granted immediately? Doesn't feel like what Nya would do after that kind of experience.
the ninjago crystalized trailers made it seem as if it would be as good as Master of the mountain. And I hated how lloyd couldnt trust Garmadon but trusts harumi???? If only they had 20 mins long episodes. Now it wasnt that bad i would rank it top #5 personally. The fights were awesome. But lloyd turning oni lasted like 5 seconds He should embrace that he is oni It wasnt garmadons fault he is evil hes evil but not as evil as harumi she has broken down ninjago 2 times! yet lloyd trusts her Yet he cant trust his father who was only resseructed with the evil side of him. wasted potential
Agree.
I think Crystalized was really good up until the 19th episode where there were a lot of plot holes and bad character direction. Also, the last ten episodes wasted a lot of time on useless stuff making the finale (the last two episodes) feel very rushed
imo i think it truly went downhill after the overlord took form (episode 16)
My problems with the season:
Nya being brought back so early
Lack of Kai and Jay focus on loss of Nya
Lloyd still being lovesick
Nya getting her powers back so easy.
Pythor still being evil after the end of Tournament of Elements
The rest of the crystal council being eclipsed by Harumi
Harumi getting off scot free
Wasted Oni Lloyd time
Filler-ish episodes that are used to pack time.
And lots of other stuff.
The Only Filler Episode in the Season was Episode 9 HoundDog MicBrag and I Absolutely Hate That Episode but The Fugi Dove and Jay Stuff was pretty Funny and the Ending Was Hilarious but a Super Boring Episode in my opinion 😡
Could you even call Harumi’s switch to good a “redemption”?
its debtable if its even fleshed out enough to consitute being called a redemption. the show definitely tries to position it as one tho
Even though I disagree with most of your points, I find it genuinely admirable how much work you've clearly put in to this video. At the end of the day it just really sucks that a season this important has disappointed so many people - and I just hope it doesn't ruin their enjoyment of the rest of the show.
Personally, I really liked Crystallized. It's certainly not without flaws - I really dislike Harumi getting off with seemingly no consequences, and while I'm fine with how Oni Lloyd was handled, I think it definitely should've been conveyed more clearly - but I think this season has some incredible high points, and is reasonably consistent in its quality.
The thing that really hurt this season was the abysmal release schedule. Splitting the season into 2 parts is fine, but everything else related to its distribution was hilariously bad. The worst thing to come out of this was the insane, unrealistic hype that built up. We knew vaguely what was going to happen, so everyone just worked themselves up into anticipating the craziest possible version of that event. Of course I'm not trying to say that we shouldn't have had high expectations, or that it's your fault you didn't like it, but I do think a lot of people were inevitably going to be disappointed no matter what due to the nature of internet hype culture.
Splitting the season in 2 also caused a lot of people to look at it as 2 separate installments, despite that fact that it was written and produced as one story. I strongly recommend anyone who is conflicted about the ending to re-watch the entire season from start to finish. The season's main themes are established in its early episodes, and are obviously pertinent to the finale.
One of the season's two main themes is not giving in to anger and seeking revenge. Conceptually, this is somewhat contradictory to its other theme (listening to your emotions rather than closing them off), but I think they are linked by season's focus on the idea of balance; listen to your emotions, but don't let them consume you. This is what I think they were getting at with the ending for Lloyd's Oni form, but I think Garmadon's reaction to that ideally should've made it clearer.
Anyway, sorry for the super long comment lmao, I have a loooooot to say about Crystallized.
thats a pretty awesome reading!
personally i think the plot really went downhill after episode16, but the stupidly long wait for the season itself let alone the second part is very much to blame for the expectations i think
@@Crusty783 your opinion about the season is not the best , you hate this season and that's cool i liked oh sorry I meant LOVED this season,I strongly disagree with your opinion tho,
This is a fantastic analysis. Overall I actually loved the season but still acknowledge it’s many flaws. Having written my own complete season of Ninjago, I understand the luxury of having complete control of your story. The vision I had in mind would not have been as well realized if I had to doll it out to five other writers.
what season did you write
Which season did you write?
A little thing about the pythor and great devourer thing.
I think the reason why pythor didn't start talking about how he released the great devourer might have been because of the result. It would be pretry embarrassing to tell someone that you released a great evil only to be eaten 5 seconds later. He could have also gotten some basic knowledge about Harumi's backstory and decided to keep his mouth shut. Also Harumi seems to be playing a blaming game because Lloyd was the one that released pythor and also called himself the so called hero. She sided with the overlord because she was going to bring peace in the dark which could have made her view him as a hero. This would obviously disappoint her when she learns that he created the creature that would ruin her life. This means that if it wasn't for the overlord then Lloyd would have never been releasing the serpentine and pythor obviously wouldn't release the great devourer making all the blame come back on the overlord.
Sorry If a lot of this didn't make any sense but I hope you get the basic idea
Yeah and I think Pythor being eaten alive 15 seconds after releasing the Great Devourer was planned by Overlord.
Overlord created Great Devourer and could theoretically control him.
I mean, think about it.
Pythor did everything he wanted to accomplish in less than several weeks in season 1. Except if it went that way, Pythor would be peaceful again, which wasn't good if Great Devourer was defeated, because it would left noone to do the bidding of evil..
If Pythor wasn't eaten, this is the result:
1. Garmaddon couldn't take over the snake tribe to find the Island where Overlord was kept
2. Scales couldn't become the leader to pacify the snakes, but snakes would still be pacified afterwards.
Pythor's lore was probably not that overused or bad.
It depicts fear of betrayal, resulting in you doing the betrayal first.
Which had unknowing consequences for both sides.
Existence purely hates Pythor, doesn't it?
I’m sort of worried about how the aftermath of Crystalized’s ending will be playing out. Knowing all of the inconsistencies in this video I can tell that this is going to end up like Total Drama Allstars’ “Sundae Muddy Sundae” or Spongebob’s “Are you happy now”. I’ve sort of liked Crystalized and was happy that the Ninja, Wu or Garmadon weren’t killed. But knowing the cost of it….wow. I don’t know where the Ninjago community or Fandom will go from here, but trust me, I’m more than happy to fix these inconsistencies.
Inconsistencies?
This season was just such a disappointing ending to the series. Originally I wanted them to bring back nadakhan this season because they have been teasing him coming back since season 11 but now I’m really glad they didn’t bring him back because they would’ve just messed that up to. Anyway I think this season would’ve been much better if they got rid of every member of the Crystal council except for Pythor. The story would just be about Pythor helping the overlord and every other villain including Harumi would not even be in the story because they don’t do anything and in Harumis case they completely ruined her character
Soo what do we learn here? Never give a Ninjago season 30 episodes, it never goes well
s11 was a banger soooo
Not true.
Not exactly. More like keep the Council of the Crystal King as the first part, making it Season 15, then have it end with the Overlord's return. Thus we get Crystallized.
After watching crystallized, I always wanted to say one famous thing my theatre friend said:"good idea, bad execution",plus add how out of core of their characters ninjas were, especially Jay(but I guess it started when brother Henchmen were replaced by new producer)
There were good ideas and themes in season, but their are outnumbered by flaws
If I had rewrite crystalized, I would've had pythor play a much bigger role and maybe rise above the ranks of the other crystal generals to be the Overlord's second in command (mostly considering he's the only pre-oni trilogy villain in the season) which would be through Harumi finding out that Pythor was responsible for releasing the great devour and wanting to kill him only to be stopped by the overlord cause he finds him useful.
This season feels like it’s written by AI
accurate as hell tbh. it randomly jumps from idea to idea with no cohesion at all in the way an AI with no screenwriting training would
There is only a minority of people who truly hate crystalised, yet they are so vocal it feels like a 50/50 split.
has anyone ran a poll recently? polls a week ago said atleast 70% or so liked it but ive been seeing alot of my friends who do like it reconsider and like it less since then. may be worth running another
there is also something else that confuses me why didn't the overlord confront Zane? Zane did technically kill him the 2nd time he returned and he targets lloyd only it would be nice to see some interactions between them
The biggest problem that I had with this season is Nya. Just everything to do with her.
She went from side character, to main character for about 6 seasons, then back to a side character who is worthless without powers
@@ryderls2729
Hey come on now.
What do you mean "everything"?
@@dylansharp8471 they wasted her. She had an amazing character arc in Seabound and then they went and ruined it. The set was cool but the show really wasted her
I still find it a crime to this day that we STILL haven't gotten a true Kai focused season
Pilot Season:I’m a joke for you?
This season was too over-hyped and *is* overrated. I enjoyed it for the call backs to past seasons, fight scenes, and some parts of the plot. But I thought at one point they said there were gonna be flashbacks before season 11, and we only got like 2. So that part was disappointing, along with the fact that Kai is still horribly written and Jay is a selfish idiotic kid that never learns anything, after season 8. Also, if I recall, Zane turned off his emotion meter and when he turned it on he started screaming like a girl or something, but in past death scenes, he was never heavily impacted by their death to result to turning off his emotions.
That just annoyed me, and if I also recall, that went nowhere. And Cole was basically useless this season. And I like how nobody is cringing about the friendship gimmick they did at the end, but in other shows they complain about it. Although it was a missed opportunity to make a cameo with the 2 skeleton guys and the skeleton army.
Also if this is a callback to past seasons, why didn't they even at the slightest reference: The Tornado of Creation, (defeated the Oni, Garmadon said the Oni can defeat the Overlord, if they use the Tornado of Creation, they win.) Elemental Dragons, (that is a way to counter the Crystal Council's Dragons.) Airjitzu, (They can fly directly upwards, would've been a helpful tool at some scenes.) Spinjitzu Burst (Cole could've done that to the Crystal Council, easily take the W)
The Dragon Forms were unnecessarily pointless, as the Ninja got crystalized, and the Crystal Council was never seen "defeated".
Although the Dragon Forms looked cool, they didn't really do much besides summon a Dragon, (although I expected the Ultra Weapon to return for some reason). That also got me thinking, to why the Ninja can't just fly up there to help Lloyd fight the Overlord, since their powers were able to defeat him.
Wasn't the prophecy that Lloyd was supposed to unlock his full potential via Golden Lloyd, and to defeat the Overlord?
Oni Lloyd was one of the reasons people wanted to watch crystalized. Personally, I wasn't a big fan of the Oni, so I never wanted to see much of the Oni Lloyd. Welp I lucked out on that one, seeing that he got 3 seconds of screentime after a whole 18 episodes of build up. And it was executed so horribly, Lloyd was actually dumb to believe Garmadon died, as in this new Garmadons season, there was a specific detail that Lloyd knew to defeat Garmadon. Garmadon gets stronger the more powerful the fight is and the longer the fight is, but Overlord shot like 5 beams at him and although he faked his death, out of all people Lloyd should know that Garmadon should be alive.
Also if this was an end to the previous era of Ninjago, why didn't a single person from the Never Realm return? The only reference we got out of it, was the Ice Emperor "returning" and it was just a facial glitch because Zane broke *again*
*Overall this season was an overrated mess.*
EDIT:
I forgot to talk about 2 more things:
-The New Ninja could've been less annoying.
-Where in the universe were the Elemental Masters.
one last thing was how bad the villains were. People expected Mr. F to get a backstory, to be Echo Zane and to have some cool scenes. But Mr. F really stands for "Mr. F you, we do whatever we want." At least that's what the producers think it means.and we don't even know where he came from and how he's alive. Or if it's just Mr Es data in a new model.
Idk why they hired Pythor out of all people and Pythor said at one point: "If someone's gonna rule the world, I'd rather it be me." Yeah thats self explanatory. If thats the case he should've just helped the Ninja.
The Skull Sorcerer and Aspheera didn't do much but shoot beams on top of dragons.
So the villains were pure garbage, and the Overlord just got rekt after the dragon spawned in. That goes to show you how OP Elemental Dragons would've been.
Most of my issues in the season mainly come down to Lloyd, which sucks because hes my second favourite ninja after Cole and hes been consistently great after the movie. He makes characters like Garmadon and Harumi worse because of how closely tied he is to them here which stinks because I actually like those characters here. He's out of character in the season in like 4 different ways and it really hurts the season and his arc
"He's out of character in the season in like 4 different ways and it really hurts the season and his arc"
What?
You articulated pretty much exactly how I felt about this season. It just felt like the characters were just going through the motions without any meaningful impact. Lloyd’s underwhelming character arc is probably the most disappointing part for me. As a whole it feels like a mishandling of what came before.
And one more thing, if Scooby-Doo can finally make Velma a lesbian after 50 years, then Ninjago can make Cole gay (or at least properly introduce a lgbt character).
Yeah. At this point theres no excuse to not have important gay chatacters (if luz from owl house can date a girl and talk about being bi, a bi flag on a guitar case does not cut it in 2022)
It's a kids show ,there is NO need for a gay character ,I say ,no politics in a kids show.
@@lynseyk6555 Gay people existing isn’t political
Cole’s empty stare makes me think he wasn’t mentally there 💀
Star Wars Ninjago
Sequels Crystalized
🤝
*Destroy the developments,*
*deeds and sacrifices of*
*old characters*
rise of skywalker? maybe. last jedi goated tho
@@dragonsman4733 ...you think the sequels are the first political star wars movies?
@@Crusty783
the sequels are a joke
@@catalyst539 last jedi is the best piece of star wars media and the franchise has went downhill since it🤷♀️
@@Crusty783 with identity politics, yes. yes they are. while the star wars prequels, and origonals, were using an older form of political history for inspiration. which then continued into the clone wars, and star wars rebels, tv shows.
Decided to hop back to this video. In the last few minutes of the video, Crusty explained how Ninjago in the Wildbrain seasons just feels recycled and more of the same. I completely agree and this is why I love Dragons Rising so much now that it’s out. DR has the chance to do so many new things and tell new stories which they’re really already doing, and with season 2 releasing soon, I couldn’t be more excited
Same! DR feels like a very fresh take on Ninjago and even when it does lift ideas from older seasons it does enough new with them that I dont have a problem with it
One of big things I disagree with is the show trying to make oni look bad, it’s just Lloyd’s character, he never looks at the good in people, he picks out the bad, that’s why he doesn’t wanna transform.
problem is the show agrees with him, not doing anything oni related being the big end for his chatacter tells me that the show unironically agrees with what he's say
@@Crusty783 Yeah, and the show sending that message makes zero sense, as the message always was balance. They all three have oni in them, like it or not, to reject that is to reject an important aspect of themselves. I think it's a stupid stance for the writers to take. What would have been amazing, is all three of them embracing both sides, and being able to use both oni, and dragon powers and be OK with that. Still be good people, and be OK with all aspects of themselves.
I mean whether the season appeals to one is objective. Although it had many flaws as the runtime was long, thus flaws are unavoidable, I still thoroughly enjoyed the season. I do have to say that the most disappointing point is that oni lloyd should have appeared longer and make the "final battle" a lil' more epic.
thats valid! this video is, at the end of the day, just my opinion - and im glad you liked crystalized ^_^
"I mean whether the season appeals to one is objective"
Did you mean to say subjective?
I just watched this again, and im suprised of how much you have to say for this season. I Don't like this season either, and you really thought deep about this, and dug deep. I can tell you collected your thoughts, and opinions cleary, and did an amazing job This video is literallly Quality or Quantity. It was a long time to wait for this video but that helped thanks.
wait.... Dragons rising is every thing he described at the end.
precisely why i loved it so much! was everything the franchise needed
This season has literally 0 stakes for a season that’s supposed to be the “end all be all”
I straight up started balling when lloyd said "huh, guess we really are the masters of spinjitzu."
I cried and pooped when Vinny said "it's vinnin time" and he Vinjagoed all over the Overlord
@@coin3720 i cried when fuji dove flew in the sky and fugigoed all over harumi
i hate how garmadon didn’t help wu fight the overlord it would’ve been amazing but i do understand considering his character and we still got an amazing fight and great scene for wu
Crystalized fell off after Harumi was redeemed. Everything before that was either good, great, or amazing.
i think the moment in episode 17 where harumi feels bad at overlord saying lloyd needs to die is the precise moment this season fell off a cliff
@@Crusty783 Why do you think that?
I think the season slowly went downhill after Episode 16, with only a few episodes here and there being pretty good. Basically, Episode 16 was the last good consistent episode, in my opinion
Idea for what could have been Harumis motivation. Instead of her being evil again, how about if she was on the good side, but lost all hope of the overlord being ever defeated and serves him because of this. The turning people into Zombies part could then be justified by saying that the overlord only destroys those who aren't under his direct controll, so that the only way to save them is turning them into zombies.
The WildBrain era to me was trying to retell the classic Ninjago stories in a modern light. Sometimes it worked, and sometimes it didn't. But Crystalized is a B-tier season for me along with SotFS due to rewatchability and meme potential. I rate it a 7.9/10. Not the best, but certainly not the worst imo.
I agree. I don’t dislike this season at all, there’s no dislike. It’s every flawed but I still liked it. The problem is it felt rushed and Harumi was violated, they violated my girl, did her dirty. The bar was also set really high in seabound and part 1. It was good overall
What would be cool is if whoever wrote this show redid Crystalized. Just to make that season better.
What kinda stood out to me about Crystalized was that the Overlord had the will to surpass death to the point of holding on to dear life because of his hatred for creation. Otherwise, this season kinda just fell apart due to bad writing decisions. Frankly, I could've done a better job at writing for this season.
a big issue in my opinion is how all of his soldiers look the EXACT same. in season 2 they at least had a few different ranks and positions in his army and they had an excuse to all look the same because of that and because they were statues. the overlord also just doesn’t feel like himself here , he’s so brutish and sluggish as opposed to his smart and deceitful demeanor in season 2. this season also suffers from the issue a lot of modern cartoons have with overpowered grunts , you don’t want grunts to just solely be throwaway cannon fodder but you also don’t want them to be so powerful they can individually take down groups of people. they overuse vengestone too much basically.
i have so many gripes with this season and it really couldve been handled better, interestingly tho cole correcting seven isnt the first time hes referred to vania as a princess, in seabound he says "maybe we can get help? from princess vania or somebody?" i know its a small nitpick compared to other inconsistencies but like bro do the creators not watch their own show lol
It's true about Nya. What they did to her character was so cruel and disgusting. I mean, even when she returned to her human state, she wasn't even given time to properly rejoin the team. (Only 10(?) seconds of screen time with Jay hugging Nya and a smiling Kay next to Jay (I was really hoping to see Kai's emotional reaction to the return of his OWN sister that he raised). Hey, really? I'm not even saying how they don’t say how they missed her a lot, but then they simply forget that they haven’t seen Nya for a year. The writers simply show this by the fact that the guys were just busy and had no time for her. But in season 4, Zane had the same situation, but throughout the season they showed how much they missed Zane even though they were busy surviving the tournament. And absolutely everyone on the team managed to say how much they miss him. But the worst part is that throughout the entire season, Nya has been the villain's punching bag. Was she just brought back to be a plot device for the prison arc and just for fan service? Throughout the season, you'll see her being humiliated and told (including by Nya herself) how useless she is without her powers? And what's more, she wasn't even a ninja and had absolutely no role even as Samurai X. Over the course of the series, she went from ninja ally, to Samurai X, to ninja, and everything else happened in one season. vice versa. She just became a minor character. While the other ninjas assisted in the fight against Overlord, she simply was “side character”revealing that she wasn’t a ninja (simply ruining her entire arc). And all she did was just regain her powers and use them to defeat the mechanic who said she was useless without her powers and she just proved him right by confirming it. How much do you have to dislike a character to do something so dirty to her? After this season I thought maybe Tommy Anderson really doesn't like Nya?
Some of the crystallized defenders will desperately defend this season and say that everything is essentially logical because "there are 4 weapons initially" and many other excuses, but I'm just saying that if they wanted, they could have given Nya so much more role and give her some development. I've seen a ton of fanfics with much better plots. And if the writers wanted, they could have done better with Nya’s character. Hell, they even turned Jay's grief towards Nya into a joke. I expected something much more emotional - that this topic would be given more attention, so little time was spent on such important things and so much time wasted on such stupid and useless things like the fake deaths, newspaper children and Lloyd constantly screaming Harumi.
I was hoping they'd keep Nya 'dead' and make Pixal the new Water Ninja tbh
I'm not exited for Ninjago: United. I'm scared that it's going to end up like the Home Alone movies. Fans of the original 2 movies will know what I mean by this
I know Im late but Zane is Ninjago's "Kenny" from South Park at this point, he just keeps on dying and reviving
💀that's spot on actually lol
Oh my God, they killed Zane!
Where were the elemental masters? Taking a nap?
I wanted to see more Kai vs Jay, and eventually fight. Personally I think Kai would win. Kai’s fire can explode plus he could survive extreme heat if focusing hard enough, so he would be able to survive lightning. Still it would be a pretty balanced battle.
nah bro the final battle with the dragon was the most lame ending ive ever seen
they shoot creation powers at him again 🤯
beautifully choreographed fight, terrible story and event
I agree with all of this video. I had many problems with Crystallized, such as bad pacing for the last 10 episodes and stuff like that, but my main problem was Harumi. I'm pretty sure Lloyd and Harumi are not together and may just be friends, acquaintances, or even just allies, but it still feels like they're setting up something between them which I dislike. Llorumi has had so many problems so I, personally, do not feel like it can ever be fully healthy unless the writers completely ignore everything that has happened between them, which is never a good thing.
I just hope that next season is not next-gen now because then there will probably be someone who is the child or descendant of Lloyd and Harumi due to not clarifying (bringing back or giving him a new one) any other love interests for Lloyd in Crystallized. They could have Lloyd single and find a love interest for him during whatever is happening with the next generation, but I feel like that is unlikely simply because of Harumi in Crystallized.
There are just so many things wrong with Llorumi that goes even farther than just being toxic. Such as Harumi dying of old age when Lloyd is still fairly young due to his oni blood and Garmadon technically adopting Harumi in Season 9, making them siblings (they even look related). I just don't think Llorumi works out and I hope they will not become cannon
It's why I can't help but comment that Harumi should have died, and if that happens, I would be happy, because in a way, the show is aware that trash should be taken out to the garbage. And in this case, the trash is the Llorumi ship.
which do u prefer? Crystalized or the Hands of Time season
Hands of Time. Both are bad but HoT can atleast say it doesn't ruin some of Ninjago's best stories.
@@Crusty783 So is Crystalized your least favorite Ninjago season?
So the title changed again! I need to know what you think
crystalize main message: NEVER MOVE ON!
actually accruate as hell lol
my main problem is that they made the ninjas rusty for like the 1000th time it was so embarasing to see them loose to that girl with the flame thrower and they even lost a 5v1 to the mechanic.
It’s crazy how Harumi literally killed her foster parents but just immediately gets redeemed
it wasn’t crystallised that ruined the show, it was them removing the set animations, god how i miss those
I liked the first 20-22 episodes of the season a lot but the remaining episodes were very very mid and boring. The major problem I have that these episodes waste time on unnecessary stuff (like Zane's stupid fakeout death) and this season plays it way too safe by not killing any major characters and having no consequences. Ronin's re-redemption was done poorly but was fine I guess. The ninja being fugitives was concluded terribly. As for Nya's powers coming back, Harumi's redemption and Lloyd's Oni Form, this season rubbed them all in our faces but ended up not 'happening'. Nya's 'powers' didn't come back (atleast this is the way how I saw it) because the way her 'powers' came is very uncertain (like how could she use her water to burst the hydrant when she is surrounded by vengestone and water pipe incident is also very similar) and I still think Nyad is behind this. Harumi didn't get redeemed because her 'redemption' came out of nowhere but I consider this to be her realizing her mistake of joining the Overlord ONLY. Her 'caring' for Lloyd could be a sign of her trying to get in Lloyd's head and not her actually forgiving and imo she's still evil. Lloyd's Oni Form also falls in this category though I wished if we saw more of it (for the time being we saw, it was excellent and I do understand why he lost control of it this quickly).
The final 2 episodes were fine as the ending kept things very ambiguous but if my view-point of these are proven false in the new series, then these 2 episodes are the worst episodes in all of Ninjago barely better than Kingdom Come (imo ofcourse).
i don't think they came back if so they are very weak
@@hannawhite7605 exactly
I just realized dareth was so close to having the last line of the series lmaoo. Wu does, which is perfectly fine. he was the first character we ever saw on screen, and while sure Kai did have the first line wu was the first character on screen.
Ninjago stopped being good after season 10. Everything else with the exception of seasons 12 and 13 is bad. People try to excuse this by saying that the main audience are kids, so why should older fans care. There are many kids shows that have proven that they can be good, while still keeping both older and younger generations engaged.
It feels so rushed
You know, i really wanted to write a long comment on this video, but i dont really have anything to add! You pretty much hit all of my viewpoints on the head and i agree with all you've said. Great Review, Crusty!
ty val! :)
@@Crusty783 np :D
You forgot the horrible usage of the NEW ninjas
The captions stayed old kanye💀
Honestly, I think Crystallized ruined Harumi's otherwise perfect character arc. And Nya's.
I think what made Harumi such an amazing villain was the fact that her backstory and goals were... well, human. She lost everything, and saw Garmadon as the savior. The hate she harbored for Lloyd is understandable. Not only that, but it's relevant throughout the season, and not just a kick-starter for her evil plans. And also the fact that it reminds us that the events over the course of the seasons happened and have consequences. The best part about her character though, is her death. She saw what power could do, and hated Lloyd for that. During her downfall, she sees a child, like she was, being separated from his parents. Her backstory comes in here, and she feels sympathy for the family, and tries to get them out. She's put in Lloyd's position here. She's trying to save others while seeing the consequences of her actions. It's ironic. It's sad. It's real . When she looks at Lloyd one last time, her look wasn't just a goodbye. It was a silent understanding. An understanding of how plans, how the bigger picture, makes us forget the small things that make life worthwhile. An understanding of her evil. Most of all, the understanding of the hero's dilemma; sacrifice. In the end, she dies not a villain, nor a hero. Just a human who understands the consequences and causes of one's actions.
Mainly, I love her character because of the fact that her arc is complete. Not complete in the sense of Morro, or Chen, or the Time Brothers, or even Iron Baron. It's complete in the fact that her character is complete, and not the plot. In the beginning of her story, she couldn't understand how the ninja could be so blind of the common person they supposedly protect. She set off on her goal of completing that, and when she succeeded, she was put in the same situation as the beginning of her story, except she is in the hero's position. What she does differently, however, is that she saved the family and sacrificed herself, unlike Lloyd, who did the exact opposite. Her story comes full circle, unlike any other character we've seen in Ninjago.
And Nya, her arc was overcoming her need for perfection. It's so perfect because it makes Ninjago seem human. The fact that we could relate to a character, see her grow, see her become her, see her realise that her abilities aren't what makes her special, all of that to be thrown away. Her becoming Samurai X again undermines the theme of her worth being defined by her, not her abilities or her intelligence. She has a whole arc with her mother on opening up to people, which felt so *natural* because she was the girl in the group, not part of the original 4, and was kinda the tech guy. Sacrificing herself because of her love for Jay is so well done because she realised that not everything could be perfect. She realises that, if she sacrifices herself for her friends and love, it's enough. And she makes Ninjago human.
TL;DR-
Nya and Harumi make Ninjago feel grounded and realistic in the problems of the world, and Crystallized fucked that up.
Honestly, Crystalized was good but would have been a whole lot better if the episodes were 22 minutes. Most of the great moments in the season went by far too short to appreciate
I don’t know why I originally thought the season was good but like a year later when I was thinking about it again I realised how stupid it was. I did find the ninja’s dragon form cool asf tho
I agree with every point other than the overlord’s intent this season. the overlord this time wants to bring peace through darkness, not js be evip and make everyone evil, he hates destruction and used corrupted (evil) creation to try and bring peace. could even be considered an anti-hero
As the season goes on its made clear that he doesn't actually want peace and was just saying that to convince Harumi. Or maybe the showrunners just forgot his motives.. Who knows
@@Crusty783 that is true, but i hate the writing. that one quote,
“destruction comes from the eternal war between light and dark bla bla bla” made much more sense than js beint pure evil; but with the writer as they ruined the ninja they also ruined the villain
I never liked Harumi. IN MY OPINION she was very undeveloped and lazyly written. Still, I have to admit that she had a pretty well-written arc. And thanks to Crystallized for ruining it.
There was no logic to returning her. The only reason why she was brought back was simply for the sake of fan service for the sake of her obsessive fanatics... I mean stans.
Seriously, it had to be Pythor, he even said at the end of season 4 that if the world is taken over, it should be because of him. They just brought back Nya at the beginning of the season and resumed Lloyd’s Stockholm Syndrome and daddy issues.
This season is the epitome of fan service, lack of creativity, and "it's just a kids' show."
After that, I left Ninjago knowing that no matter how long it took, this show would always return to quo status. And looking at their “character development” is useless.
I'd reccomend you give Dragons Rising a look. Everything you've said here is true and looking at Crystalized it's totally reasonable to have assumed this franchise is just permenantly stuck.
Literally in the first episode of Dragons Rising there are more status quo changes than the past half decade of Ninjago content put together. The realms permenantly come together, forming a massive superrealm, The Ninja are split up and we still haven't found everyone yet, Lloyd is taking on new students.
It's like with the end of 11 minute Ninjago and the start of Dragons Rising, a weight was lifted off of the show's shoulders allowing the story to progress again. Definitely give it a look.
Guys, I think I found my arch enemy. He hates season 16 but loves season 11. The complete opposite of me.
I'm afraid that if we meet, we might break the fabric of reality.
Me even replying to this comment would bring about the end of days
@@Crusty783
What have you done? 😱
I have seen Nerrel’s review of Rise of Skywalker enough times that I can tell it was a huge influence on this video. It actually made me realize how Rise of Skywalker and Crystalized are kinda similar in that they’re both a super ambitious finale of a series spanning over a decade, and both absolutely failed at giving a satisfying ending.
His star wars videos are so, so good. Ive watched both atleast 5 times lol. Also yeah TROS and Crystalized both kinda just bring long obsolete characters back and think thats all you need to make a good story
The BIGGEST opportunity Crystallized missed was killing Wu when he fought The Overlord, so many characters would have benefited from this.
I really hope the next series helps fix many things that Crystallized didn't.
I had so much hope for this season after 10 years of ninjago you would think they would end this show with a bang. But instead we got a season that felt rushed like oni Lloyd being useless. Mr.f and zane fight should have been more important reusing the echo zane plot . The overlord was very boring in this season it also made zane sacrifice mean a lot less with the overlord returning I wish we got a moment we're the overlord had a 1v1 against zane
Yes oni lloyd could have been great
If “crime” brings back the overlord, theoretically JAYWALKING contributed to the the return of the overlord
And Vandalism, duh. 😂
Yeah i agree with all of these. They could've killed off garmadon and maybe injured Wu. And i know its a kid show but i think killed off one of the Ninja preferably kai would be more interesting. My opinion
Happy 1 year anniversary to this banger video
The Overlord returning is like Star Wars The Rise of Skywalker “ Somehow , Palpatine returned . " It's as if they were trying to mock that scene from that movie . I really can't believe I actually decided to come back to finish watching the season .
I heavily disagree with the ideas rehashing because thats happened for a while. S11 retreads the lazy ninja and a powerless arc and an imprisoned snake wanting revenge against the people who imprisoned them. This stuff has happened for a while, since like season 4
Yep, Ninjago has been rehashing itself (and loads of other movies) since pretty much the beginning.
Everything that you just mentioned is not even close to the biggest problem. Crystalized continues to put forth the message that good and evil should join forces to stop the bigger problems, they did that with dragon forms, but it still falls short. Instead of embracing his oni form and possibly using it in conjunction with golden power (which I expected since the golden weapons orignated from the FSM, not some crazy dragon) he uses neither and relies on the golden weapons once more. They could have at least pushed their themes further if they just let Lloyd use his oni form and awaken his golden power, that's the true mix between good and evil. It almost feels like they baited us with the golden suits.
Everything was great until the ending (apart from Lloyd being stubborn as always).
Crusty before the final part of crystalized and afterwards felt like two different people. Now, thanks to this great video his change of heart makes all the more sense and there aren't even any points I can disagree with. Great work!
The problem with Crystalized is that the writers didn’t plan in out at all. They didn’t take their time to get all the details right and make it good. This is why I’m not worried about Dragons Rising. The writers said that they’ve already planned everything out, and they have a huge conclusion planned for the future
I like crystalized
Now dont be like "no its bad blah blah blah"
I like it
dope man im glad u enjoyed the season
I liked it too… now The Angry Birds Movie 2 on the other hand…
@@Crusty783cool 👍
The Overlord doesn't even feel like himself anymore.
In seasons 2 & 3 he felt extremely threatening and nearly untouchable. I remember being scared that the ninja will die if he merely looks at them and now Lloyd casually taunts Overlord and kicks him in the face during his very introduction!
The build up / conclusion to the Oni Form also feels like The Rise Of Skywalker.
"If you kill Palpatine, he'll take over your body!"
*Rey kills Palpatine*
"If you beat the Overlord without Oni powers, he'll return eventually!"
*Lloyd doesn't use Oni powers*
true but overlord wasn’t in s1 he was in s2 and 3
@@jackmeds12 I made a typo
Could you make a vid focusing on the positives? Sure this season did have a few problems but it was still amazing. It was still entertaining and fun to watch (for me at least). I think it could have been a LOT worse.
theres a section at about 6 minutes in that does this
crystalized is the worst season of ninjago they ruined harumi and lloyd but my biggest problem is everything with nya they not only making her sacrface potinless but destroying all of her character development just to a damsel in distress garmadon was cool but treated like crap oni lloyd was a cool concept but all it did was 30 seconds and jay being more sad than kai is crap
I completely understand the takes but I find it funny how (not specifically trying to go after you) people flip their opinions 180 degrees so quickly. It often feels like people just declare things “good” or “bad” in the community as soon as they formulate their opinion and then only look for evidence that confirms that idea.
100%
The idea that something can be good while still having problems, or bad while still having good qualities, is basically just non-existent on the internet most of the time...