@@jimmybalzac6021Demigirl: a gender that is partially girl and partially something unclear/unknown/other. Genderfluid: a gender that fluctuates between multiple other genders. Hope this helped! ^^
"I was spacekin anyway." I feel like this is an important moment to mention that, in-universe, Shadow the Hedgehog was created on a space colony using the genetic material of an alien. He is, indeed, spacekin.
Also, there is a Shadow the Hedgehog game that prominently features Shadow using guns (and saying “Damn”, it isn’t relevant but I wanted to mention it), so that’s probably why Shadow’s intro mentions being pro-gun. Mod Shadow’s character actually seems to be much more based on the original character than most of the other mods.
you describing all the fan animations, compilation posts, drama, and tails leaving and then adding “by the end of the first day” was like whiplash because you described it like an epic tale lasting over the course of several years
Gonna show my age here but it was like the gag in the first Naked Gun movie where there's an upbeat dating montage of Frank and Jane doing all these fun an varied activities, then it's revealed that they did all of that on their first date
@@magpieMOB Haven't seen that, and my point of reference was a little more sinister. I thought of the Doctor Who episode where they arrive in the middle of a war that looks like it's been going on for years, and it turns out it all happened in a week.
@@davidkonevky7372 Honestly that's such an easy thing to clock as satire! I'm so surprised no one questioned that! Like they make fun of "fake, stupid genders" but have they/them mods and respect their pronouns, which they'd 100% kick and make fun of if they're genuine.
@@poniko6034 Tumblr and Queer anti-SJW is different from normal anti-SJW, where most of the people are super queer but one of the "good" ones. (not actually good, just shitty)
Too much of this is lore accurate. - Mod Sonic and Mod Amy dating, even though their expressed preferences would be incompatible - Mod Knuckles establishing the Master Rule to control the other rules, which are depicted as the chaos emeralds - Mod Tikal getting kicked for showing too much connection to the perceived enemy - Mod Sally getting into a relationship with Mod Sonic - Mod Shadow antagonizing Mod Sonic - Upon the return of Mod Silver, he brings with him Mod Blaze, who is the only person who likes him
"You know Amy, anytime someone calls attention to the breaking of gender roles, it ultimately undermines the concept of gender equality by implying that this is an exception and not the status quo" - Knuckles, echidna and feminist.
Still amazing that Sonic Boom did a better job addressing progressive topics in off handed ways than other shows did actively trying to promote those ideas, etc
I’ve been a huge Sonic fan for most of my life, and one year for Christmas my mom got me a bunch of Sonic stickers she found off of RedBubble. I was confused when I pulled out one that said “bring back Mod Silver.” Now I know, thank you for the history lesson 🙏
The emotional whiplash of a timeless tumblr campfire story about a bunch of kids cooperating on a shameless satire blog overthe summer ending in one of them being a child predator and said vlog getting deleted over that was UNPARALLELED. 10/10 sotrytelling and #justiceformodsilver #downwithmodamy
Ooooh that’s why I remember so much of the saga lol. I tended to not see things like this until after the storm had passed. I slept through the entirety of the Mishapocalypse 😅
seeing video analysis of tumblr drama i've LIVED is so surreal. "Do not cite the deep magic to me, witch! I was there when it was written" except please DO cite the deep magic
same, i wasn't actually involved in some of the best worst tumblr moments (i will always regret not experiencing the onceler-dom in real time) but i have vivid sonic for real justice memories
The fact that these anti-SJW bloggers are genderfluid, trans, non-binary, asexual, questioning and all kinds of other identities and just chose random people in the community to be passionately against is something that I just can't wrap my mind around. I know it was satire, but apparently it was believable enough. I am kind of glad not to have been on Tumblr then.
Honestly when I first learned about this blog I knew something was up when they claimed to have truscum beliefs but were also just chill with tails being nonbinary cause notoriously truscum are anti-nb
Fr, the "giving trans people a bad name" was so real, I've had someone completely seriously say that about enbies to me. Also there are still truscum communities active on places like reddit, so it's honestly very realistic.
eh with people like kalvin garrah and blair white (+ the people who used to be in that circle but aren't) i can see it happening. but also tumblr loves drama.
many of the TUMBLR anti-sjws wind up being queer if they aren't already too. like super queer. i was an anti-sjw on tumblr and gay, then i realized i was a terrible person like five years ago and now i'm way too loud about gay and aromantic.
Oh my god, finally a story that changed my life. My friendship with someone I’d been friends with for 15 years ended over a disagreement that started with Sonic for Real Justice. It turned out to be kinda freeing for me to be rid of this person, but it never fails to make me laugh that a 15-year friendship ended because of an unhinged, SATIRICAL, obviously-ridiculous Sonic the Hedgehog ask blog (run by a predator?? WHAT????? holy shit.)
I relate. I broke ties with a partner I'd had in my life for two or three years over them having a meltdown about xenogenders. She later turned out to be friends with white supremacists and shit
@@thatguyinthecorner4648It's fine, hope you're feeling better now, some people just don't fit together. It happens! Have a good day and a great rest of your year!
I think the reason this was so believable is because 1. All but one of the mods are stated to be teenagers and teenagers are prone to drama. 2. Sonic the Hedgehog is already associated with the internet’s biggest clusterfuck (Chris Chan) so a Sonic-themed blog experiencing severe turmoil isn’t entirely unexpected
Also the idea of an anti-justice blog immediately imploding with infighting is both inherently believable, and satisfying enough as a concept that people would _want_ to believe they were watching edgelords make fools of themselves.
Hey, hey BUDDY! what’s your thesis on, HUH!??? I’m always looking for a NEAT OPPORTUNITY to hear something that might not necessarily be in my wheelhouse but that someone else has put thought into, PAL!!! why don’t you share, eh buster???? I wanna know
I was on Tumblr during the "Justice for Mod Silver" Arc and had NO idea the drama escalated til now. I also remember rumors that the blog could've been run by just one person. Also, the Sonic for Real Justice shitstorm took place over JUST A FEW DAYS?!
Ya know, the blog being run by emotionally malformed teens is funny despite itself, but if it was all one individual then that is an artful level of trolling.
The whole thing being run by one person is actually what I initially thought of as well cuz I tend to talk to myself a lot and start drama with myself so it kinda sounded similar to that 💀💀💀
Haven’t watched Strange in a while. Coming back now her whole vibe makes me think of Kaisa from Hilda (if you’re unfamiliar, she’s quite literally what you described)
"I chose Shadow because I relate to his hatred of humans" [screeches in Sonic Adventure 2 fan] _his arc in the FIRST GAME he was ever in was that him hating humanity was him being misguided and spiteful when what Maria wanted was for him to forgive humanity and move on, which he does in the end and he sacrifices himself to defeat the Final Hazard and save the Earth from the ARK crashing into it. biting you biting you biting you biting you biting-_
I never got into Tumblr. I live vicariously through Strange to get all i need to know about Tumblr. What a beautifully weird and endlessly strange website.
I had tumblr back in day but I never got deep into fandoms, the sjw wars, etc. I always enjoyed the more goofy side of the website (the clown husbandry posts, where did you get your shoelaces, the Texas Lornhorn/Denny’s oc shipping saga, etc)
Tumblr is something I never got into, but regret eternally for not doing so, it sounds like such a random mess of bullshiterry all around, I'd love it!
I’ve been off Tumblr for so long, hearing all these terms like “truscum” “spacekin”, “tucute”, etc. makes me feel like I deserve a veteran’s discount at any given restaurant of my choosing.
What's incredible about the Sonic blog is how it is such a perfect microcosm of the fandom space bullying and group implosion that happens in every single online space.
Duuuuuude(gender neutral), I WITNESSED that group eat itself alive. Like people and Strange thinks that’s where it ended but nooooo. They branched into these “Daily-(female sonic blog)” dedicating themselves to drawing (safe) drawings of that character every day. They recruited people through tumblr, then invited them to discord where I ended up scrolling up and discovering the shit show of a fight! Like it was just hiding up in the text logs you had to scroll up for MILES. It was bonkers. When I learned my what I learned I realized I was terminally online and went to finally eat grass.
"Like I give a shit, I was spacekin anyways" is so iconic I can't believe I forgot that part That's absolutely getting incorporated into my vocabulary now
The funniest thing about this whole blog is probably the accidental irony considering how one of the few things that Sonic hates the most is oppression and discrimination
No kidding, one of the very few consistent things across all Sonic continuities is that he is going against a casually racist fascist with dreams of mass industrialization and he gets through it all with a large and colorful cast of friends with all manner of backstories personal hang-ups and struggles that make them all unique. The idea that Sonic of all people would discriminate against basically anyone is absurd.
@joleneonyoutube That could possibly be the point behind the joke and the reason why they chose Sonic in the first place, but at the same time I have seen a good few Sonic fans over the years who seem pretty against that ideology so you can never know
@@Sonicsis no I envy you, smol one. I was dragged kicking and screaming back into the fandom by my then friend, now girlfriend with the IDW series around a year ago and I've fallen DEEP into it again. I've made OCs with deep lore and I roleplay as them in VR spaces, and now I am RUNNING one of the more professionally made roleplay servers and AU wikis that match the server, called Zonerunners RP. HELP.
I caught on early on that it was likely satire, because the characters the mods picked just fit WAYYY too well with the drama they started, (I say this as someone who was fascinated by the Sonic series for a little while but I'm not in particularly deep) but it was still nice having it confirmed lol
Even without Sonic knowledge, they just... introduced themselves like characters in a badly-written play? I still feel like "satire" is too strong a word for this. 😆
As a Demigirl and a casual Sonic fan, I'm feeling some mixed emotions that I have what's apparently pretty much the only invalid gender identity in these people's minds.
I mean they (the fake mod characters not the people behind them i hope) were also against any trans identities (binary or nonbinary I imagine lmfao) that didn't involve dysphoria, so it wasn't JUST demigender identities, if that helps at all lkjkjhlkjkj
@@spiinniing I mean you're right but it's just such a ridiculous stance to pin non-cis people against each other. It made so much sense to find out it was satirical
@evangelinewood3325 tragically a lot of trans and nonbinary people engage in a lot of lateral violence against each other. "truscum" (folks who believe if you dont have dysphoria then you aren't trans) are really out here claiming other trans people aren't really trans. it really sucks. like I'm cis, but as queer people we should be standing by each other as a unified front. ❤️
Oh they have a lot of genders they consider invalid, which fluctuates depending on who they're friends with at any given time. Seriously that's usually what the deciding factor is, the rest of the time it's just simple garden variety transphobia.
Gotta really give you points for including those little urban dictionary definitions for things like truscum and tucute whenever they pop up. Very considerate of folks like me, a lotta LGBT terms like that kinda go over my head and I hesitate to ask what they mean or look them up for fear of looking like a Fake Bisexual™️ or something. Great work all around, really. Love your stuff. Also I can never get over how fitting it was for Mod Silver to get treated like trash early on. Especially by 2015 standards, that guy was the Sonic community’s number 1 punching bag.
Mod Tikal’s character is so funny to me because it seems like she was sort of just dragged into all this without realizing what any of it actually meant
honestly sonic for real justice was such a plausible idea for a blog in the "danganronpa character themed discourse blog" era that this blog as an idea really wasn't too far fetched at first. pretty sure the whole idea for the blog came from unironic similar blogs.
It was only a matter of time until this video got made, and I don't know if I'm happy about it. On one hand, always happy for Papa Strange to grace us with a new video, on the other hand, Sonic For Real Justice.
you are not alone in those feelings. it is complicated out here, suffering with internet brainrot, wanting yet more content to feed the rot that spreads
I'm kind of relieved to hear it was satire, because the whole time I'm listening to the story, I was like, "this is so on the nose!". Silver being a shy boi who screws up and gets kicked, Shadow being a "2 edgy 5 u" space-kin guy, Sonic splitting his attention between Amy and Sally and then Amy getting jealous - all of that reads more like someone with knowledge of Sonic characters making a satire account about them than just happenstance drama that happened after the face claims.
some of the initial discourse was genius & totally highlighted the hypocrisy of the transmedicalist/ exclusionary movement of the era. if that was intentional or accidental i have no idea but the result was hilarious. truly an iconic moment in tumblr history
As part of the sonic fandom: this officially broke confinement. I could give lots more *internal* knowledge but it would all have to be alleged because shit got deleted to the void, and I wanted to escape said void and wanted to touch grass.
i, too, have *internal* knowledge and was probably doubly shocked by more people here about that ending (for reasons) i have stuff i wanna say sooo bad and even though it's not much it also makes me want to just touch grass again. but, i'm glad i'm not alone lol
@@xammiheart oh god no IM STILL UPSET WE'RE NOT ALONE. MEETING THAT GROUP SUCKED SO MUCH. bUT FIRST!! Nice to meet you fellow friend happy to stand in solidarity.
lol thank you 😂 looking back on the sfrj archive (unless there's other posts at the end of the blog lost to time) i was the last person mod sonic got to insult in-character. and yeah considering how worked up she was about the sonic dreams collection content being in the sfrj tag (which i still understand and respect her opinion from then), let's just say that the irony of those recent events for me is.... palpable
@@xammiheartlol sonic dream simulator. Not to go into my own sonic the hedgehog 🦔 “actually”… I know fan content can be a mixed bag and I respect anyone who doesn’t like certain fam projects. Also respect people who only want to focus on official content. -ok end of sth rant lmaoo. I’m sadly familiar with (I don’t know who exactly yet but I have my suspicions) 3 of the mods who tried to form “Daily-(female sonic character)” accounts. I got involved when after a lot of drama went down behind the scenes, blissfully unaware what happened. I just wanted to help draw drawings of Amy.
Mod Sonic/Mod Amy have such a Macbeth/Lady Macbeth thing going The way she starts so much drama with Sonic being basically silent, Lady Macbeth/Amy egging him on into murder/drama, until the darkness overtakes him and he turns on her. Silver is King Duncan btw. The only innocent character.
"My name is Strange" is such a great start to every video because it's both an inside joke for the channel and because I would completely believe if this creator had legally changed her name at any point.
I will never tire of antisjw people complaining about "sjws starting needless drama" while being the most petty, vicious, unhinged drama queens that have ever logged on.
There was like 1 actual SJW in 2014 and it spawned a movement of millions of angry anti SJWs that still exists to this day. It's been an entirely manufactured thing from day 1
As someone who occupied many sub-cultural spaces in my teens and early twenties, one of which was antisjw-ism, I think a lot of the hostility stemmed from the sense that the cultural 'rules' were being unfairly broken. Pre-2012 internet culture demanded a universal surrender of the right to be offended. That's actually a bad thing to demand, considering many things are genuinely offensive, but it is, in a perverse sense, fair. Add onto that the blunt reality that the cultural staples of antisjw-ism (video games and imageboards, for instance) were effectively safe-spaces for struggling young men, safe-spaces that were then perceived as being violated by 'feminists' and 'sjws' and I think a lot of the apparently irrational anger makes sense.
Being on the frontlines during this was insane, I'd refresh every hour and be fucking blindsided with the next post, the content of which I could never have predicted if my life depended on it.
Proud of my boy knuckles for not falling into this drama like the rest. I miss his bloodborne streams on twitch, its a shame he got perma banned from twitch over his opinions on isreal
Well that was a wild ride Also, I think I spend too much time on Tumblr Considering that my first response to strange getting the year on goncharov wrong was to say, out loud, "it's 1973" Also, the goncharov posting was beautiful
19:12 there were also two other mods at this time, Mod Classic Amy and Mod Classic Sonic, and Mod Shadow dramatically revealed that Mod Sliver had been manipulating Tumblr into thinking he was a sweet cinnamon roll.
When it comes to questioning the validity of SFRJ, I know there was some questioning of it back in the day, but also I feel like the dramatic nature of it meant everyone was having too much fun to care if it was fake or not. If anything I remember there was more side discourse about if using the phrase "Justice for Mod Silver" was racist or not for making light of actual racism. Tumblr at its finest! I do fondly remember watching this all unfold and keeping up to date with my friends in skype.
i love that your videos make me relive The Dark Tumblr Days, and i remember the memes about “down with mod amy” from when this blog was in its heyday… but wow, my smile dropped so fast in the last few minutes of this video. what a surreal and disturbing end to an iconic tumblr bit-and yet it’s somehow so fitting for that hellsite. thank you for the zombie-like shuffle down memory lane, another great video from you 💜
Honestly, having been in a friend group for a period of time that all face-claimed sonic characters online and even in person sometimes, if I had come across this blog and not been told right away it was planned satire I would've believed all the drama was real. I wouldn't know where to begin with that whole story, and it didn't even end OR start with my inclusion.
TH-camr Izzzyzzz also did a deep dive into sonic for real justice!! They dug more into what happened after the blog was restarted and quickly fell apart, along with some more detail on the initial dramatic start of the blog :]
i just now realized that i just barely missed actually being there for Sonic For Real Justice when it was actively happening. like i joined tumblr about a month after it happened
GOD I remember watching this saga go down in real time 😭 I was 17 in sixthform at the time and my friends and I had two empty lessons either side of lunch on the day it all kicked off so we sat in the cafeteria reading the posts out to each other, we treated the blog like a daily newspaper for the rest of that week 😂 We were also obsessed with reading My Immortal and a bunch of other cringe Harry Potter and Twilight fics, as well as cringewatching Onision, Cool Cat, John Sakars, etc, and streaming The Room. It was genuinely a lot of fun and your content really reminds me of it LOL
I vaguely recall this blog. Also participating in the Goncharov madness was so much fun, born too late to explore the world, born to early to be yeeted into a black hole, born just in time for Goncharov.
I feel like my brain melted, re-solidified when you informed us it was satire (oh thank god) and then melted again when we reached the conclusion (Oh Dear GOD 😨🤢)
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i have been waiting. so long. for this video. thank you father strange. down with mod amy.
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Mod Tikal getting kicked off for being a demigirl, then being replaced by gender fluid Mod Sally is the funniest shit.
What do those words mean?
@@jimmybalzac6021Demigirl: a gender that is partially girl and partially something unclear/unknown/other.
Genderfluid: a gender that fluctuates between multiple other genders.
Hope this helped! ^^
@@spectscrawlz_ Yes, thank you.
Peak “gay and homophobic”
@@jimmybalzac6021thank you for being civil in asking and responding, not enough people are like you when asking about things they dont know!
"I was spacekin anyway."
I feel like this is an important moment to mention that, in-universe, Shadow the Hedgehog was created on a space colony using the genetic material of an alien. He is, indeed, spacekin.
HA I FORGOT 💀💀
Very true
Also, there is a Shadow the Hedgehog game that prominently features Shadow using guns (and saying “Damn”, it isn’t relevant but I wanted to mention it), so that’s probably why Shadow’s intro mentions being pro-gun. Mod Shadow’s character actually seems to be much more based on the original character than most of the other mods.
@@softsounds8453bro… how could you 😭
what an exit though. only way mod shadow could top it was to claim some neopronouns on their way out too
you describing all the fan animations, compilation posts, drama, and tails leaving and then adding “by the end of the first day” was like whiplash because you described it like an epic tale lasting over the course of several years
Strange...yes this was the first day ......oh shit.
Gonna show my age here but it was like the gag in the first Naked Gun movie where there's an upbeat dating montage of Frank and Jane doing all these fun an varied activities, then it's revealed that they did all of that on their first date
That moment was so fucking funny
@@magpieMOB Haven't seen that, and my point of reference was a little more sinister. I thought of the Doctor Who episode where they arrive in the middle of a war that looks like it's been going on for years, and it turns out it all happened in a week.
AAHHHH
"Why do you love being so smug and vague this late at night" is an armor-piercing question straight to the beating heart of Tumblr
I was GAGGED when I heard that
That’s what tumblr’s for 😂 that is amazing
"And he is banned. For being dramatic. And spacekin."
fucking sublime. incredible, even. real justice has been restored.
Shadow being "Anti-gun control" but also saying that fighting fire with fire doesn't work is beautiful. It's cinema.
The emotional whiplash I got when he came out as spacekin can never be replicated.
@@poniko6034 Hollywood wishes they had shadow in their writing staff
Same as the fact that it's an anti SJW blog and literally none of the characters are even straight
@@davidkonevky7372 Honestly that's such an easy thing to clock as satire! I'm so surprised no one questioned that! Like they make fun of "fake, stupid genders" but have they/them mods and respect their pronouns, which they'd 100% kick and make fun of if they're genuine.
@@poniko6034 Tumblr and Queer anti-SJW is different from normal anti-SJW, where most of the people are super queer but one of the "good" ones. (not actually good, just shitty)
Silver only showing up once the madness was over and Shadow secretly being a decent person are... surprisingly lore accurate
him being a space kin is also really fucking accurate considering blackdoom
@@childish4487 "hey shadow its me, the devil! from the bible!"
Too much of this is lore accurate.
- Mod Sonic and Mod Amy dating, even though their expressed preferences would be incompatible
- Mod Knuckles establishing the Master Rule to control the other rules, which are depicted as the chaos emeralds
- Mod Tikal getting kicked for showing too much connection to the perceived enemy
- Mod Sally getting into a relationship with Mod Sonic
- Mod Shadow antagonizing Mod Sonic
- Upon the return of Mod Silver, he brings with him Mod Blaze, who is the only person who likes him
"Like I give a shit, I was spacekin anyways."
Did this line become a meme and I just missed it? Because that line absolutely should've became a meme.
genuinely better than any piece of cinema
Really excited for the Goncherov retrospective in a few years.
ColeyDoesThings has an amazing Goncharov video
Yeah, that movie needs more recognition
@@genericname2747 A true cinema masterpiece
@genericname2747 probably one of my faves
One of my friends has a Goncharov poster in their room
"You know Amy, anytime someone calls attention to the breaking of gender roles, it ultimately undermines the concept of gender equality by implying that this is an exception and not the status quo"
- Knuckles, echidna and feminist.
Yes, I'm an echidna AND a feminist.
Yes, we exist.
Still amazing that Sonic Boom did a better job addressing progressive topics in off handed ways than other shows did actively trying to promote those ideas, etc
@@LateNightTableCo *Sonic Boom
@@BassGal92 Sonic Explosion
@@blarg2429 sonic nuclear warhead
I’ve been a huge Sonic fan for most of my life, and one year for Christmas my mom got me a bunch of Sonic stickers she found off of RedBubble. I was confused when I pulled out one that said “bring back Mod Silver.” Now I know, thank you for the history lesson 🙏
That's so funny, I'm glad you finally found the answer!
That is genuinely hilarious
You better still have that sticker
This is like Ally Beardsley’s dad sending them an 8lbs jar of creole mustard by mistake
The emotional whiplash of a timeless tumblr campfire story about a bunch of kids cooperating on a shameless satire blog overthe summer ending in one of them being a child predator and said vlog getting deleted over that was UNPARALLELED. 10/10 sotrytelling and #justiceformodsilver #downwithmodamy
this is the perfect way to describe this, I am thoroughly whiplashed
WHAT. I tune out for 1 second and OH NO OH NO OHHH NNNOOOOO
The reveal that all the events described first half of the video occurred in one day is so indicative of that era of Tumblr
Ooooh that’s why I remember so much of the saga lol. I tended to not see things like this until after the storm had passed. I slept through the entirety of the Mishapocalypse 😅
seeing video analysis of tumblr drama i've LIVED is so surreal. "Do not cite the deep magic to me, witch! I was there when it was written" except please DO cite the deep magic
WAIT I MISSED THAT LAST PART ABOUT WHY IT GOT DELETED, HELLO?
Mood and same boat
same, i wasn't actually involved in some of the best worst tumblr moments (i will always regret not experiencing the onceler-dom in real time) but i have vivid sonic for real justice memories
The fact that these anti-SJW bloggers are genderfluid, trans, non-binary, asexual, questioning and all kinds of other identities and just chose random people in the community to be passionately against is something that I just can't wrap my mind around. I know it was satire, but apparently it was believable enough. I am kind of glad not to have been on Tumblr then.
Honestly when I first learned about this blog I knew something was up when they claimed to have truscum beliefs but were also just chill with tails being nonbinary cause notoriously truscum are anti-nb
Classic “I’m the *good* kind of gay/trans” especially considering how the trans medicalism (ignoring the satire of it all for a second)
Fr, the "giving trans people a bad name" was so real, I've had someone completely seriously say that about enbies to me. Also there are still truscum communities active on places like reddit, so it's honestly very realistic.
eh with people like kalvin garrah and blair white (+ the people who used to be in that circle but aren't) i can see it happening. but also tumblr loves drama.
many of the TUMBLR anti-sjws wind up being queer if they aren't already too. like super queer. i was an anti-sjw on tumblr and gay, then i realized i was a terrible person like five years ago and now i'm way too loud about gay and aromantic.
Oh my god, finally a story that changed my life. My friendship with someone I’d been friends with for 15 years ended over a disagreement that started with Sonic for Real Justice. It turned out to be kinda freeing for me to be rid of this person, but it never fails to make me laugh that a 15-year friendship ended because of an unhinged, SATIRICAL, obviously-ridiculous Sonic the Hedgehog ask blog (run by a predator?? WHAT????? holy shit.)
I relate. I broke ties with a partner I'd had in my life for two or three years over them having a meltdown about xenogenders.
She later turned out to be friends with white supremacists and shit
@@thatguyinthecorner4648It's fine, hope you're feeling better now, some people just don't fit together. It happens! Have a good day and a great rest of your year!
@thatguyinthecorner4648 >xenogenders
Maybe they're the one better off lmao 😂
@@buildman126??
@@thatguyinthecorner4648 it is always the little things that hint something bigger and red-flaggier...
I think the reason this was so believable is because
1. All but one of the mods are stated to be teenagers and teenagers are prone to drama.
2. Sonic the Hedgehog is already associated with the internet’s biggest clusterfuck (Chris Chan) so a Sonic-themed blog experiencing severe turmoil isn’t entirely unexpected
Honestly. I encountered too many people on tumblr that ACTUALLY act like this so I fully believed it
@@LifesNeverHumDrum Same.
Also 3. Teenagers on the internet would definitely have pretty uninformed political opinions, especially in 2015
Also the idea of an anti-justice blog immediately imploding with infighting is both inherently believable, and satisfying enough as a concept that people would _want_ to believe they were watching edgelords make fools of themselves.
I feel strange that I don't know what Chris Chan is, but it vaguely rings internet brain rot bells....
Sonic for real justice wasn't just satire, it was 💫performance art💫
so true
yes!
Ye
Michaelangelo, Leonardo, DaVinci, there all dead, I REMAIN
God I NEEDED something to procrastinate my thesis with. Thank you for supplying
Not me reading this while procrastinating for finals
@@lauraa4956we are in the same boat (the boat is sinking but it’s fine we don’t talk about that)
Hey, hey BUDDY! what’s your thesis on, HUH!??? I’m always looking for a NEAT OPPORTUNITY to hear something that might not necessarily be in my wheelhouse but that someone else has put thought into, PAL!!! why don’t you share, eh buster????
I wanna know
GOD SAME. wishing luck for us all
Not me reading this whilst having 7 essays due in the next 2 weeks T-T
Mod Tikal coming out as a demigirl was genuinely the catalyst for me coming out as nonbinary, which is fucking bonkers to me still
I was on Tumblr during the "Justice for Mod Silver" Arc and had NO idea the drama escalated til now. I also remember rumors that the blog could've been run by just one person.
Also, the Sonic for Real Justice shitstorm took place over JUST A FEW DAYS?!
Ya know, the blog being run by emotionally malformed teens is funny despite itself, but if it was all one individual then that is an artful level of trolling.
The whole thing being run by one person is actually what I initially thought of as well cuz I tend to talk to myself a lot and start drama with myself so it kinda sounded similar to that 💀💀💀
Tia is like the inner city librarian who shows us the spell books and how to befriend street cats
What library have you been going to because I want to be there now
Haven’t watched Strange in a while. Coming back now her whole vibe makes me think of Kaisa from Hilda (if you’re unfamiliar, she’s quite literally what you described)
Let the local librarian tell us some crazy in fighting amongst the local youths… and later the ones who became creepy adults…
@@Sonicsis hey, I know it's been two months but what the hell does this mean?
"I chose Shadow because I relate to his hatred of humans" [screeches in Sonic Adventure 2 fan]
_his arc in the FIRST GAME he was ever in was that him hating humanity was him being misguided and spiteful when what Maria wanted was for him to forgive humanity and move on, which he does in the end and he sacrifices himself to defeat the Final Hazard and save the Earth from the ARK crashing into it. biting you biting you biting you biting you biting-_
"Biting you biting you biting you" scratched something in my brain
To be fair that character development has been lately completely ignored by the canon, in favour of making shadow an edgy hedgy
I never got into Tumblr. I live vicariously through Strange to get all i need to know about Tumblr. What a beautifully weird and endlessly strange website.
Same, I have an account but never used it lol
I had tumblr back in day but I never got deep into fandoms, the sjw wars, etc. I always enjoyed the more goofy side of the website (the clown husbandry posts, where did you get your shoelaces, the Texas Lornhorn/Denny’s oc shipping saga, etc)
Same here! Strange introduced me to the Furby community as well, something I am eternally greatful for.
Tumblr is something I never got into, but regret eternally for not doing so, it sounds like such a random mess of bullshiterry all around, I'd love it!
Seemed like a wild place.
I’ve been off Tumblr for so long, hearing all these terms like “truscum” “spacekin”, “tucute”, etc. makes me feel like I deserve a veteran’s discount at any given restaurant of my choosing.
What's incredible about the Sonic blog is how it is such a perfect microcosm of the fandom space bullying and group implosion that happens in every single online space.
Duuuuuude(gender neutral), I WITNESSED that group eat itself alive. Like people and Strange thinks that’s where it ended but nooooo. They branched into these “Daily-(female sonic blog)” dedicating themselves to drawing (safe) drawings of that character every day. They recruited people through tumblr, then invited them to discord where I ended up scrolling up and discovering the shit show of a fight! Like it was just hiding up in the text logs you had to scroll up for MILES. It was bonkers. When I learned my what I learned I realized I was terminally online and went to finally eat grass.
it was satire ! lol
Your Tumblr videos feel like I’m sitting through a History Lecture, but in a swamp. Thank you Professor Strange 👌
This is such an accurate description
i love swamp history 101
Dr*
Unironically this is one of the best haircuts Teya could've chosen, absolutely spectacular
Are you a bot?
@@Lulu_Limejust a stranger enjoying TH-cam in spare time, have a good one
@@Lulu_Lime if they were a bot they wouldnt have used her real name
@@Badusername2000 bots can steal comments 🤷
@@Badusername2000 What, every real fan knows that his real name is Strange Aeons!
All I want in life is for the Real Time Dubs cast to re-enact the saga of Sonic For Real Justic in character
"Like I give a shit, I was spacekin anyways" is so iconic I can't believe I forgot that part
That's absolutely getting incorporated into my vocabulary now
"and he is in fact, permanently banned... for being dramatic... and spacekin"
The funniest thing about this whole blog is probably the accidental irony considering how one of the few things that Sonic hates the most is oppression and discrimination
Canon sonic lore up here folks ⬆️
No kidding, one of the very few consistent things across all Sonic continuities is that he is going against a casually racist fascist with dreams of mass industrialization and he gets through it all with a large and colorful cast of friends with all manner of backstories personal hang-ups and struggles that make them all unique.
The idea that Sonic of all people would discriminate against basically anyone is absurd.
I thought that was the point of using the sonic theme as their 'face' - the irony?
@joleneonyoutube That could possibly be the point behind the joke and the reason why they chose Sonic in the first place, but at the same time I have seen a good few Sonic fans over the years who seem pretty against that ideology so you can never know
@@Woogwoogus Oof! fair enough.
I had mod shadow's whole intro layout MEMORIZED and to my surprise, I can still recite it. This is one of my favorite tumblr history events ever
Holy shit a Strange telling of Sonic for real justice? My day has absolutely been MADE this is one of my favorite Tumblr brainrot case studies
As a 30+ year long Sonic fan who's never used Tumblr... This story was... Wild...
Ass a 20+ fan… I envy you so much.
@@Sonicsis no I envy you, smol one. I was dragged kicking and screaming back into the fandom by my then friend, now girlfriend with the IDW series around a year ago and I've fallen DEEP into it again. I've made OCs with deep lore and I roleplay as them in VR spaces, and now I am RUNNING one of the more professionally made roleplay servers and AU wikis that match the server, called Zonerunners RP.
HELP.
“Welcome to tumblr our pronouns are Yes/And” I will be stealing this for use in the future lol
I caught on early on that it was likely satire, because the characters the mods picked just fit WAYYY too well with the drama they started, (I say this as someone who was fascinated by the Sonic series for a little while but I'm not in particularly deep) but it was still nice having it confirmed lol
Even without Sonic knowledge, they just... introduced themselves like characters in a badly-written play? I still feel like "satire" is too strong a word for this. 😆
As a Demigirl and a casual Sonic fan, I'm feeling some mixed emotions that I have what's apparently pretty much the only invalid gender identity in these people's minds.
I mean they (the fake mod characters not the people behind them i hope) were also against any trans identities (binary or nonbinary I imagine lmfao) that didn't involve dysphoria, so it wasn't JUST demigender identities, if that helps at all lkjkjhlkjkj
@@spiinniing I mean you're right but it's just such a ridiculous stance to pin non-cis people against each other. It made so much sense to find out it was satirical
As a fellow demigirl sonic fan, I concur! 😹
@evangelinewood3325 tragically a lot of trans and nonbinary people engage in a lot of lateral violence against each other. "truscum" (folks who believe if you dont have dysphoria then you aren't trans) are really out here claiming other trans people aren't really trans. it really sucks. like I'm cis, but as queer people we should be standing by each other as a unified front. ❤️
Oh they have a lot of genders they consider invalid, which fluctuates depending on who they're friends with at any given time. Seriously that's usually what the deciding factor is, the rest of the time it's just simple garden variety transphobia.
Just based on mod Shadow's bio you just know he's currently trying to get people to buy his NFT's
Gotta really give you points for including those little urban dictionary definitions for things like truscum and tucute whenever they pop up. Very considerate of folks like me, a lotta LGBT terms like that kinda go over my head and I hesitate to ask what they mean or look them up for fear of looking like a Fake Bisexual™️ or something. Great work all around, really. Love your stuff.
Also I can never get over how fitting it was for Mod Silver to get treated like trash early on. Especially by 2015 standards, that guy was the Sonic community’s number 1 punching bag.
To be completely honest with you a lot of these terms aren't used by most of the community, they were mostly just Tumblr terms from 2015.
Mod Tikal’s character is so funny to me because it seems like she was sort of just dragged into all this without realizing what any of it actually meant
sonic for real justice was more dramatic and engaging than any soap opera tbh
I love this era of internet historian Strange
honestly sonic for real justice was such a plausible idea for a blog in the "danganronpa character themed discourse blog" era that this blog as an idea really wasn't too far fetched at first. pretty sure the whole idea for the blog came from unironic similar blogs.
It was only a matter of time until this video got made, and I don't know if I'm happy about it. On one hand, always happy for Papa Strange to grace us with a new video, on the other hand, Sonic For Real Justice.
you are not alone in those feelings. it is complicated out here, suffering with internet brainrot, wanting yet more content to feed the rot that spreads
I'm kind of relieved to hear it was satire, because the whole time I'm listening to the story, I was like, "this is so on the nose!". Silver being a shy boi who screws up and gets kicked, Shadow being a "2 edgy 5 u" space-kin guy, Sonic splitting his attention between Amy and Sally and then Amy getting jealous - all of that reads more like someone with knowledge of Sonic characters making a satire account about them than just happenstance drama that happened after the face claims.
some of the initial discourse was genius & totally highlighted the hypocrisy of the transmedicalist/ exclusionary movement of the era. if that was intentional or accidental i have no idea but the result was hilarious. truly an iconic moment in tumblr history
I don't know why...but "god's bravest little meow meow" fucking SENT me. I need to work that into my vocabulary immediately
I think Sonic is hiding the fact that he has three girlfriends. And yes, they smoke weed.
I remember seeing the Izzzyzzz version! I can't wait to see your coverage/take on it :)
me too!
Omg YESS Izzy's vid! Im so glad I watched that one beforehand so I had more context ngl :)
OHH so thats why i felt like i had already watched this video LMAO
yessss
This is Shakespeare. This is opera. This is high Art. This is a 21st century speedrun of Lord of the Flies. I'm obsessed.
As part of the sonic fandom: this officially broke confinement. I could give lots more *internal* knowledge but it would all have to be alleged because shit got deleted to the void, and I wanted to escape said void and wanted to touch grass.
i, too, have *internal* knowledge and was probably doubly shocked by more people here about that ending (for reasons) i have stuff i wanna say sooo bad and even though it's not much it also makes me want to just touch grass again.
but, i'm glad i'm not alone lol
@@xammiheart oh god no IM STILL UPSET WE'RE NOT ALONE. MEETING THAT GROUP SUCKED SO MUCH.
bUT FIRST!! Nice to meet you fellow friend happy to stand in solidarity.
lol thank you 😂 looking back on the sfrj archive (unless there's other posts at the end of the blog lost to time) i was the last person mod sonic got to insult in-character.
and yeah considering how worked up she was about the sonic dreams collection content being in the sfrj tag (which i still understand and respect her opinion from then), let's just say that the irony of those recent events for me is.... palpable
@@xammiheartlol sonic dream simulator. Not to go into my own sonic the hedgehog 🦔 “actually”… I know fan content can be a mixed bag and I respect anyone who doesn’t like certain fam projects. Also respect people who only want to focus on official content. -ok end of sth rant lmaoo. I’m sadly familiar with (I don’t know who exactly yet but I have my suspicions) 3 of the mods who tried to form “Daily-(female sonic character)” accounts. I got involved when after a lot of drama went down behind the scenes, blissfully unaware what happened. I just wanted to help draw drawings of Amy.
The fact that mod shadow claims that Shadow "hates humanity" clearly shows that his understanding of Shadow as a character is surface-level at best
shouldve seen the satire
Mod Sonic/Mod Amy have such a Macbeth/Lady Macbeth thing going
The way she starts so much drama with Sonic being basically silent, Lady Macbeth/Amy egging him on into murder/drama, until the darkness overtakes him and he turns on her.
Silver is King Duncan btw. The only innocent character.
9:46 a day?! I thought weeks had passed by this point
I was not mentally ready to see a Sonic For Real Justice from you today
"My name is Strange" is such a great start to every video because it's both an inside joke for the channel and because I would completely believe if this creator had legally changed her name at any point.
Oh my god this had been a dream of mine to see you covering this insane tale of pure tumblr craziness.
Also Justice to Mod Silver
I will never tire of antisjw people complaining about "sjws starting needless drama" while being the most petty, vicious, unhinged drama queens that have ever logged on.
There was like 1 actual SJW in 2014 and it spawned a movement of millions of angry anti SJWs that still exists to this day. It's been an entirely manufactured thing from day 1
As someone who occupied many sub-cultural spaces in my teens and early twenties, one of which was antisjw-ism, I think a lot of the hostility stemmed from the sense that the cultural 'rules' were being unfairly broken. Pre-2012 internet culture demanded a universal surrender of the right to be offended. That's actually a bad thing to demand, considering many things are genuinely offensive, but it is, in a perverse sense, fair. Add onto that the blunt reality that the cultural staples of antisjw-ism (video games and imageboards, for instance) were effectively safe-spaces for struggling young men, safe-spaces that were then perceived as being violated by 'feminists' and 'sjws' and I think a lot of the apparently irrational anger makes sense.
“Mod Knuckles gods bravest little meow meow” I need that on a shirt
This blog was so insane that there were posts telling people not make fun of it because, and I quote, "it could be someone's mental breakdown" 💀💀💀
I was one of those people that dipped out of following this page after a few days because this was the consensus among everyone on my dashboard
You're the Tumblr historian we need.
Being on the frontlines during this was insane, I'd refresh every hour and be fucking blindsided with the next post, the content of which I could never have predicted if my life depended on it.
Proud of my boy knuckles for not falling into this drama like the rest. I miss his bloodborne streams on twitch, its a shame he got perma banned from twitch over his opinions on isreal
Is this a reference?
Kiev horse kidnapper
@@canoewithmeat And his "love" for underage horses sadge
Well that was a wild ride
Also, I think I spend too much time on Tumblr
Considering that my first response to strange getting the year on goncharov wrong was to say, out loud, "it's 1973"
Also, the goncharov posting was beautiful
hearing that sonic changed his name to super sonic knocked the breath out of me lmfao
19:12 there were also two other mods at this time, Mod Classic Amy and Mod Classic Sonic, and Mod Shadow dramatically revealed that Mod Sliver had been manipulating Tumblr into thinking he was a sweet cinnamon roll.
Thank you for bringing the same level of consideration and enthusiasm to your presentation on this topic as you seem to with all your work, love it
This story was like a rollercoaster and YET the fucking left turn on how the blog was deleted STILL gave me whiplash
"they all hate me... its okay though!!" never fails to be the funniest fucking bracket-insert ive ever read
this haircut looks SOOO amazing on you!!!! it brings out your eyes and compliments your entire face so well
this was most definitely an rp blog because the way they followed the comics storytelling its hilarious
the way I RAN when I saw the title omg
also tag urself, I'm mod shadow
I remember this happening in real time and following it RELIGIOUSLY 😊
When it comes to questioning the validity of SFRJ, I know there was some questioning of it back in the day, but also I feel like the dramatic nature of it meant everyone was having too much fun to care if it was fake or not. If anything I remember there was more side discourse about if using the phrase "Justice for Mod Silver" was racist or not for making light of actual racism. Tumblr at its finest! I do fondly remember watching this all unfold and keeping up to date with my friends in skype.
oh my god I FUCKING FORGOT ABOUT THIS LMFAOOOOOOO GOD I REMEMBER SCREAMING ABT MOD SILVER
dude yeah…it all feels like one horrific fever dream…
i love that your videos make me relive The Dark Tumblr Days, and i remember the memes about “down with mod amy” from when this blog was in its heyday… but wow, my smile dropped so fast in the last few minutes of this video. what a surreal and disturbing end to an iconic tumblr bit-and yet it’s somehow so fitting for that hellsite. thank you for the zombie-like shuffle down memory lane, another great video from you 💜
Honestly, having been in a friend group for a period of time that all face-claimed sonic characters online and even in person sometimes, if I had come across this blog and not been told right away it was planned satire I would've believed all the drama was real. I wouldn't know where to begin with that whole story, and it didn't even end OR start with my inclusion.
i do love catching upon tumblr drama that i know nothing about and entirely missed while i was actively using tumblr at around that same time 10/10
I'm so thankful for this upload. It's been a hot minute since our last dose of Strange.
loving the hair! Really suits you
stop this was not in 2015... stop.... im going to cry that was 9 years ago
Only sonic fans can appreciate the extra layer of all the drama and the mods being very in character.
YESSSSS IVE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO COVER THIS FOR SO LONG ❤❤❤
TH-camr Izzzyzzz also did a deep dive into sonic for real justice!! They dug more into what happened after the blog was restarted and quickly fell apart, along with some more detail on the initial dramatic start of the blog :]
hearing the word "truscum" out of nowhere after like five years gave me war flashbacks
I love this topic and I think you’re a great TH-camr. Strange keep up the amazing work.
i just now realized that i just barely missed actually being there for Sonic For Real Justice when it was actively happening. like i joined tumblr about a month after it happened
That's how I felt about the Mishapocalypse
HELL YES, I'm so ready for the sonic for real justice saga!!
I feel like we all owe a huge debt to the wayback machine
GOD I remember watching this saga go down in real time 😭 I was 17 in sixthform at the time and my friends and I had two empty lessons either side of lunch on the day it all kicked off so we sat in the cafeteria reading the posts out to each other, we treated the blog like a daily newspaper for the rest of that week 😂 We were also obsessed with reading My Immortal and a bunch of other cringe Harry Potter and Twilight fics, as well as cringewatching Onision, Cool Cat, John Sakars, etc, and streaming The Room. It was genuinely a lot of fun and your content really reminds me of it LOL
This haircut looks so great on you! Loving it!
I vaguely recall this blog. Also participating in the Goncharov madness was so much fun, born too late to explore the world, born to early to be yeeted into a black hole, born just in time for Goncharov.
I’m so grateful you’re covering this, top five favorite Tumblr dramas of all time.
Why does this seem like an actual fanfiction? Like straight up 2010s sonic fanfiction. Sonic's power trip is so fricking funny.
I feel like my brain melted, re-solidified when you informed us it was satire (oh thank god) and then melted again when we reached the conclusion (Oh Dear GOD 😨🤢)
Your hair looks great! You're looking well! I hope everything with the lung surgery went well. ❤
I know this is all satire, but they did a very good job at replicating the drama that minors get themselves into
I knew most of this so I was nodding along and laughing and then the sudden mood shift to 2022 gave me whiplash. 10/10 video